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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Nigel Ethan Hatcher in.

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Speaker 3: For Jason Hammer. Ethan of course, host of Saturday Night on.

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Speaker 4: A Circle, Absolutely Saturday Night near the Circle, Near the

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Speaker 4: Circle too nearby.

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Speaker 3: We've moved locations. We'll go straight to the hotline and

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Speaker 3: bring on another host. Tony Kinnitt is a investigative reporter

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Speaker 3: for Daily Signal dot com, host of the Tony Kinney

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Speaker 3: Cast weeknights right after our show here at ninety three

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Speaker 3: WIBC at seven o'clock, mister kinnittt, tell me your overall

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Speaker 3: thoughts on what you saw on during the weekend with

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Speaker 3: Iran in the United States, in Israel, coordinated attack, a

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Speaker 3: massive amount of military might, and we kind of saw

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Speaker 3: this coming, didn't we.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested a lot of the hosts and and

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Speaker 1: pundits and the individuals out there who seem to think

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Speaker 1: that history started on Saturday morning. Nothing before had ever happened.

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Speaker 1: We all woke up brandly newborn and suddenly witnessed for

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Speaker 1: the first time anything. Who could have seen this coming?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I did two back to back shows on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It was a long day, but it was a good day,

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Speaker 1: the Hamani getting exploded, watching, of course, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Iranian targets that have had it coming forever, you know,

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Speaker 1: the forty seven years of their brutal, disgusting attacks on

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Speaker 1: anyone and everyone around them. And to watch now even

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Speaker 1: the Muslim countries around them siding with the United States

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Speaker 1: and smacking down some of the naysayers. It's truly something

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Speaker 1: to behold. I don't think we've ever seen anything like

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Speaker 1: this before, but in a military planning matter, at the masterstroke.

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Speaker 3: Well, I ran started doing like the one thing you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't do was started. They bombed everybody that was next

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Speaker 3: to them that borders them, right, I mean, they lashed

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Speaker 3: out at everybody. It's like Jon Stewart. I saw this

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Speaker 3: on The Daily Show, and I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 3: John Stewart by any means, but it's like getting beat

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Speaker 3: up at a bar by two guys but then starting

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Speaker 3: but then responding by hitting everyone in the bar at

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Speaker 3: the same time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how rough is it when you're in

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Speaker 1: some kind of a position where Katar is like your

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Speaker 1: only buddy, you then throw a bunch of missiles at Katar.

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Speaker 1: Tucker has to come out and go well, actually it's

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Speaker 1: the mescade who is doing the bombing. And even Tucker

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Speaker 1: or even Katar had to come out and say, no,

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Speaker 1: Tucker's just stupid. It's clearly the Iranians. We have the

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Speaker 1: footage right here. I mean, my goodness, what a day

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Speaker 1: or four for the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this?

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Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned you're talking about Tucker Carlson and

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Speaker 3: people like Megan Kelly are there's in fighting with the

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Speaker 3: conservative Republicans about this whole thing. There has been in

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Speaker 3: general about certain philosophies, you know, Tucker Carlson and Megan

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Speaker 3: Kelly versus Mark Levin and Fox News. And if you

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Speaker 3: don't believe this, you're a trader. But if you don't

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Speaker 3: believe that, you're a trader to the nation kind of attitude, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't feel like it helps.

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing come out of the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing the data, and the data so far says

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Speaker 1: that there is no big magas civil war inside the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party.

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Speaker 5: I was told there was.

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Speaker 1: I was told there was going to be was all

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Speaker 1: it was going to be split Republicans don't want it,

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Speaker 1: and depending on the poll Republicans are between seventy five

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Speaker 1: and ninety percent in favor of these strikes. The number

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Speaker 1: is actually growing in support as they see the success

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Speaker 1: dominance of the United States, as they already see how

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Speaker 1: this dwarfs in the danger of the forever wars that

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Speaker 1: we were told, were promised we're going to happen another

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Speaker 1: Iraq in Afghanistan, as that's already turning out to be

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Speaker 1: not remotely true. Yeah, I mean, I got a level

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Speaker 2: Yeah, expand on that.

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Speaker 3: We're speaking with Tony Kennett, investigative reporter Daily Signal dot

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Speaker 3: Com host that Tony Kinnett cast. Maybe expand on that

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Speaker 3: whole because look, I was worried about it too. You know,

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Speaker 3: the terms like nation building and boots on the ground

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Speaker 3: I think people our age are sensitive to looking back

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Speaker 2: You don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And here's why.

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Speaker 1: First of all, regarding the Iraq and Afghanistan war, for

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Speaker 1: the first three weeks, the Iraq War was not at

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Speaker 1: all like it ended up being. It was a complete

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Speaker 1: dominance of the country. And then all of the soft handed,

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Speaker 1: really compassionate, like, guys, we can't just leave it a

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Speaker 1: parking lot. Someone has to go in there and open

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Speaker 1: a girl Scout troop. And that is the George Bushy

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Speaker 1: and nation building the case out of it. Now again,

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Speaker 1: I seem to remember this because again a lot of

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Speaker 1: us looking back remember these things. You can look up

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Speaker 1: the histories if you don't. And now we're seeing a

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Speaker 1: large argument coming from some of the soft handed Obama

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Speaker 5: So how can you just kill the ISAs hole? How

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Speaker 1: How could you just he's so austere as a scholar,

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Speaker 1: and the Trump is going no, And it's their job

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Speaker 1: to find somebody new. It's the civilians job, it's the

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Speaker 1: people job to rise up and put in a secular government.

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Speaker 1: He said, We're not going to sit here and let

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Speaker 1: the IA told do whatever he wants. International law, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't make that's not a thing. The B two is

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Speaker 1: international law. And as far as the American people are concerned,

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Speaker 1: as long as this comes off as a win and success,

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Speaker 1: and you know, NICKI Haley's not appointed. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no chance it becomes a forever war.

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Speaker 4: My question to you, Tony is how do you feel

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Speaker 4: about the optics about potentially being pulled into this conflict

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Speaker 4: due to Israel? Because now they have both the Secretary

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Speaker 4: identified intelligence that Israel was going to attack Iran retaliation

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Speaker 4: against American forces would undoubtedly result from that, and so

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Speaker 4: they preemptively struck against the Ayatola. America should be in

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Speaker 5: Are we on the same page?

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Speaker 1: We are on the same page. I think that your

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Speaker 1: away with the gotcha to repeat painful liberal esque tropes

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Speaker 1: because they don't have any data they don't have any

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Speaker 1: to say Israel's leading America around, just like America's supposedly

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Speaker 1: white supremacists. It's embarrassing to watch libertarians become liberals and

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Speaker 1: they're pearl clutching. It's really quite sad. So those optics,

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Speaker 1: I would say again, the kind of fantasy you see

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Speaker 1: we're being led around by Israel, simultaneously inviting one of

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Speaker 1: as usual for the Libertarians. It's I mean again that

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Speaker 1: you know Israel's leading us around. I'd say one thing, evidence, porpoivre,

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Speaker 1: you got any, And so far the answer has been

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Speaker 1: a resounding cricket noises.

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Speaker 3: Lots of evidence on the battlefield that the Americans and

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Speaker 3: Israelis are badass military specialists. What did you see from

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you asked that, because, as you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of experience when it comes

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Speaker 1: to drone and drone countermeasures, and it comes to anti

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Speaker 1: air this is something that I'm rather passionate about. You

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Speaker 1: anti air defenses, they have all of these anti air

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Speaker 1: radar capabilities, and oh, we would lose so many jets

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Speaker 1: like in Venezuela, just like Auran last time, just like Iraq.

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Speaker 5: You know, right at the era of the.

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Speaker 1: Gulf War, the United States flew its dominant air force

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Speaker 1: hypersonic air defense missile that they purchased, down to a

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Speaker 1: So right now our own allies in the region have

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Speaker 1: The only dogfight we've ever even seen in this conflict

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Speaker 1: humiliating dog fights that we've seen in air history. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: It's a masterclass and aerial dominance.

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Speaker 5: It truly is. It's Gulf War all over again.

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Speaker 3: Look back up here with Tony Kinnett Daily Signal dot

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Speaker 2: So some.

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Speaker 3: Primary some special elections last night, who want to break

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Speaker 2: Jasmine Crockett humiliating defeat.

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Speaker 1: Let's start there, So I mean, first and foremost, watching

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Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett talk the biggest game on Earth in all

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Speaker 1: of the different accents to what she does, and then

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Speaker 5: The knee and spanked by James.

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Speaker 1: Talerico who is doing the Beta Rourke three points. We

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Speaker 1: had Beto and we had Colin Allred who somehow managed

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Speaker 1: to fumble a victory. You like that a little little

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans humor.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you did.

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Speaker 1: Finally you get old James Tallerico. Now his thing is he'

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Speaker 1: say I'm a Centrist democat Christian, except I get in

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Speaker 1: church and I say God's non binary, and he loves abortion.

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Speaker 1: trans community. That's a very Christian thing. That yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So he's got his plan. Now Republicans, on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: they're not doing John Cornyan. Unfortunately, Wesley Hunt, who I

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Speaker 5: It's going to be Ken Paxton.

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Speaker 2: Uh are they going? Are they in a runoff? Or

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Speaker 2: was it porn was it Paxson?

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Speaker 1: So Paxton, I don't believe got more than fifty percent

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Speaker 1: have Ken Paxton, who's there. But yeah, he's just like,

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Speaker 1: he's embarrassing me. He's got a lot of baggage. We're

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Speaker 5: Baggage all right.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got John Cornyan, who's about as interesting

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Speaker 1: as those circus peanut candies we used to get at Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Anyone ever cheer when you got those handed out? Nope,

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Speaker 1: that's Sean Cornyan. So like that's okay. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the election. I mean, will James Tallerico

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Speaker 1: Buddha deeds long enough?

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Speaker 5: Who will find out? I get? Yeah? I know.

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Speaker 1: And then in North Carolina you got Roy Cooper, who

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Speaker 1: is the governor who didn't care that Arina Zarutska was murdered.

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Speaker 1: That would be that governor up against the good old

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Speaker 1: chair of the RNC. So those are your big Senate maneuvers.

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Speaker 5: Dan Crenshaw also got I was gonna say the House.

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Speaker 3: Crenshaw, that's a big deal, isn't it? By double digits?

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Speaker 3: I believe Patches McCain.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I Patch I Patch McCain. That's what of my

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Speaker 5: my friends I called him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Crenshaw decided I'm going to upset everyone. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is a move that we are often familiar with,

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Speaker 1: going after the other party and then your own party.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's that's quite a move.

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Speaker 1: I don't think i'd recommend it, but up pair, there

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Speaker 1: are those around us who think that's the smart move.

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Speaker 5: So Crenshaw being one of them.

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Speaker 1: Uh. His district was then reshuffled around to a lot

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Speaker 1: That didn't help him. So people were like, everyone's rejecting Dan. Well,

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Speaker 1: the redistricting played a little bit of a part in that, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's not pretend it didn't. But also, yeah, he did

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Speaker 1: in fact get a two handed spanking and it wasn't pretty.

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Speaker 3: And then and then that guy with the sign during

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Speaker 3: the State of the Union address, Al Green?

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Speaker 2: What's was he?

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Speaker 5: Is? That?

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Speaker 2: Who I'm thinking of?

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's to the deeds with the cane that one?

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Speaker 5: Did he also lose the primary? Was he?

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Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of that? If he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Green Menifee, let me see if I'm looking at this

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Speaker 3: Ray Democrats rets Green Menifee advanced to runoff and redrawn

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Speaker 1: Al Green in a runoff. Oh man, he's done so

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Speaker 1: many great things. I mean, think about it, He's and

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Speaker 1: all so and let's not forget I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, I mean that's our record.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well so anyway, like what two minutes is two? Okay?

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Speaker 3: What does this portend for the midterm elections coming up

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Speaker 3: later this year? I mean, what did we learn anything?

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid that we haven't learned anything, because we've got

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Speaker 1: Ken Paxton in the Senate race, which means well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: of another carry Lake situation where they're like, okay, I know,

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Speaker 1: carry Lake's kind of kookie, but everyone loves Republicans, right,

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Speaker 1: And then it turns out, no, that's not just a pantasy.

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Speaker 1: No problem, there you go. And so if Republicans run

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Speaker 1: some Marl Fears tried in Virginia.

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Speaker 5: It will be a blood path. So that's the chance.

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Speaker 1: Now Democrats are hurting themselves because you know it's the

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, you've.

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Speaker 1: Got, for example, the Democrat senator from Oregon now Rob Widen,

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Speaker 1: the other one also peddling this Israel crap around on

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Speaker 1: the media. That seems like what they're ed, Markley, that's

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Speaker 1: what they're going to run with, and that's not going

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Speaker 1: to play well. That plays well with about five percent

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Speaker 1: of the voter base. So good luck to you.

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Speaker 3: What are you working on tonight? What's on the Tony

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Speaker 3: Kinnitt Cast at seven one?

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Speaker 5: She's head Country.

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Speaker 1: I'm up in Wisconson because I'm speaking to the conference

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Speaker 1: up here, my alma mater, So we're going to be

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the beautiful Central time zone.

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Speaker 5: That's already messing with me.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Find him at the Tonus on social media. Tony Kinnitt

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Speaker 3: hosted the Tony kinned Cast, and to find his work

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Speaker 3: at Daily Signal dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, sir, gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: You guys take care