Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Frame Second Podcast. My
Speaker 2: name is Mike. IM your house for the evening. Next
Speaker 2: to me, I have Spike. What uk Spike?
Speaker 1: I have Ken? Next to Ken, I have Rod.
Speaker 2: I got in trouble, guys, But yeah, we are going
Speaker 2: to be giving our thoughts about Alien Earth. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make some some I'm going around the room and do
Speaker 2: some quick thoughts. Spike, what did you think about this
Speaker 2: series as a whole?
Speaker 3: I was surprised that I liked it as much as
Speaker 3: I did. Took four episodes, but once the fourth episode
Speaker 3: kind of went I was locked in. I was like, God,
Speaker 3: it's good, so I knocked him out. I liked it,
Speaker 3: like the character that like the story that was told.
Speaker 3: I'm not as familiar with the alien world, so some
Speaker 3: of that stuff was brand new to me.
Speaker 1: But I enjoyed this all right? Ken, what do you
Speaker 1: think about this? I enjoyed it. I had some highs
Speaker 1: and lows to it as a complete serious but overall
Speaker 1: when it was over, I was like, not bad. I'm
Speaker 1: definitely enjoy some episodes more than others, but overall, wasn't
Speaker 1: that about? All? Right? Rob?
Speaker 2: What do you think about this.
Speaker 1: It's good. This is damn good. All right, So.
Speaker 2: I'm the only one that didn't like this bullshit? Huh
Speaker 2: very interesting? Yes, I do is that when I don't
Speaker 2: like this ship, Oh man, that's crazy. Are you not serious?
Speaker 2: Dead ass? I'm not trolling. I did not like this.
Speaker 2: This was a bummer for me. I was so I'm
Speaker 2: I'm glassed. This felt like Marvel wrote west World.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what. I didn't watch west World.
Speaker 2: West World was a bunch of fucking cyborgs, and then
Speaker 2: spoiler alert for everybody there was like, oh man, we
Speaker 2: didn't know he was a cyborg o crazy And then
Speaker 2: I feel like Marvel watched that, and then Marvel was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, we need superheroes. We need superheroes an alien,
Speaker 2: So let's make some superheroes. But we needed to be
Speaker 2: comic relief also, so let's make them kids and adult
Speaker 2: cyborg bodies.
Speaker 1: But also let's make it deep.
Speaker 2: It's like Peter Pan, and let's run the fucking Peter
Speaker 2: Pam narrative on every single fucking episode in case y'all
Speaker 2: are too stupid to realize it's about Peter Pan.
Speaker 1: I hated that. I was like this show.
Speaker 2: Is fucking stupid. Do you like the story Peter Pan?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like Peter Panel on his own. I like the book,
Speaker 2: and I like what the what Disney tried to do
Speaker 2: with the movie.
Speaker 1: But for y'all to.
Speaker 2: Like force this Pan thing for fucking eight episodes, it
Speaker 2: was like, dog, we get it. She's named Wendy, we
Speaker 2: get it. We have the black guy with the captain
Speaker 2: hook arm, we get it. Do you have to do
Speaker 2: it with ever you're watching Peter Pan while you then?
Speaker 2: We get it, dude. We have boy Cavalier. He's like
Speaker 2: Peter Pan. You called him the Lost Boys.
Speaker 1: We get it.
Speaker 2: We get it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I was so fucking annoyed with this show in but
Speaker 2: I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. I'm not gonna try to
Speaker 2: convince you not to like it. I'm very glad y'all
Speaker 2: annoyed it. Mar No, no, no, he was like.
Speaker 1: Stuff like why no?
Speaker 2: This just felt like, why are y'all putting these Marvel
Speaker 2: superheroes in the alien universe?
Speaker 1: Because that's what they were. They were.
Speaker 2: It was the fucking Avengers fighting two fucking xenomorphs. This
Speaker 2: was aggravating.
Speaker 3: Was just before or after the alien stuff that's been
Speaker 3: out this.
Speaker 1: Is way before, which made it even more annoying.
Speaker 2: And I'll get to the main reason the last I'll
Speaker 2: just say the last episode set me the fuck off.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck all of this.
Speaker 3: You're not the only person this podcast that I listened
Speaker 3: to the watch they said the same thing.
Speaker 2: I've been hearing nothing, but I love this show. It's
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: What dude? What?
Speaker 3: It was a couple of creeper on the ringer that
Speaker 3: said they do the watch. They said the exact same
Speaker 3: thing you said that I could not understand. Had to
Speaker 3: cut it off. I was like, what are they talking?
Speaker 2: I'm not to go listen because I thought I was on.
Speaker 2: But anyway, and I thought this sh.
Speaker 1: Was creepy, terrific hit.
Speaker 3: The trillionaire dude was great. I thought the black dude
Speaker 3: was great. He was great to me.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he was. I liked him, man, he was great.
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, this is going to be a long review, Okay,
Speaker 2: So uh, we're gonna go ahead and give a summary
Speaker 2: of episode one. Episode one opens up with this message
Speaker 2: that the future, uh, in the future, the race for humanity.
Speaker 1: It comes in three guises.
Speaker 2: You got cyborgs, You got sense, you got hybrids, neat
Speaker 2: were Now we're in the year twenty twenty one, twenty
Speaker 2: and we're in the Magino, which is a Wayland Utahanni ship,
Speaker 2: and they're talking about five house, Like yeah, basically five houses,
Speaker 2: five groups that kind of run the world or the
Speaker 2: universe really. But the main one here is Prodigy, which
Speaker 2: is started by Boy Cavalier. But we found out they're
Speaker 2: on a mission to collect specimens. Among them are face huggers,
Speaker 2: So whoever wants to jump in. Was that's was just
Speaker 2: interesting to y'all?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I mean I feel like it set it up,
Speaker 4: set up the world. I like, uh, I like having
Speaker 4: a different I think they set it up perfectly, like
Speaker 4: just saying like you got these different people that run things.
Speaker 4: You got this trillionaire that it's like the race for
Speaker 4: what immortality? It was a race for immortality, so that
Speaker 4: you know, basically whoever can create. It's like the same
Speaker 4: shit they're doing with like space programs right now, the
Speaker 4: first person that could make it to fucking Mars and
Speaker 4: all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I feel like it was parallel.
Speaker 4: With with now, like how you have people that's trying
Speaker 4: to race to do certain things with technology, Tesla, the
Speaker 4: Electric the ev ship. All that ship is like a race.
Speaker 4: Whoever can be king of that can like basically rule.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned Tesla, did anybody else get like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is supposed to be I yes, I wasn't thinking.
Speaker 1: I was thinking more of Mark Zuckerberg for some reason.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got I got Elon immediately because they
Speaker 2: made him a buffoon, but he thinks he's really smart.
Speaker 2: And it was like I built a cent It was
Speaker 2: just like this is Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't get Elon, but I just got the overall
Speaker 4: air of the e lions and stuff.
Speaker 3: Of the world, like they bar from all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well we meet Marcy and she's being artificially
Speaker 2: put into a synthetic body named Wendy Ken. Specifically, what
Speaker 2: does this remind you of the mind of a person
Speaker 2: being put into a synthetic body.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 2: You just reviewed it. Not the Creator, No Blade Runner.
Speaker 2: It's a very very similar concept to the replicants. And
Speaker 2: I feel like they were doing this because the dude
Speaker 2: that did Alien finally admitted that Alien and Blade Runner
Speaker 2: are in the same universe. No no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: The guy that originally damned Cameron. It's James Cameron, right, alien.
Speaker 1: See that? But yeah, I don't know why I didn't
Speaker 1: think about Blade Runner.
Speaker 2: I immediately thought about Blde Runner. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm already annoyed.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: So when they were transferred the consciousnesses into the synthetic bodies, Spike,
Speaker 2: did you notice what movie was playing on the ceiling?
Speaker 1: Was Peter Pan?
Speaker 2: Did you think that was cool?
Speaker 3: No, because I don't don't think I've ever seen Peter Pan.
Speaker 2: Hmm, why is that not surprised?
Speaker 1: I see the hook? No?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Really not James Cameron. Thank you, James.
Speaker 3: I ain't seen I don't think I've seen a cartoon
Speaker 3: of Peter Pan. I don't think I've ever seen any
Speaker 3: of the real.
Speaker 1: Stuff was watching cartoon?
Speaker 2: What did you think about the other kids, the whole
Speaker 2: the whole idea of putting terminally old kids into adult
Speaker 2: cyborg bodies. What did you think of that?
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was a bad idea, to be
Speaker 3: honest with you, if they was gonna pass anyway, and
Speaker 3: like they could grow up into them bodies and be
Speaker 3: alive forever, like, so I didn't think it was.
Speaker 1: I did like the idea of that being a possibility.
Speaker 1: As the series went on, I started to rethink everything.
Speaker 1: But you know, but that was definitely one of the
Speaker 1: things that I liked about it because it was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, wait a minute, this might not be a
Speaker 1: good idea, interesting, but made sense that they couldn't grow up,
Speaker 1: and I think because of that, it explained actions that
Speaker 1: occurred as the series went on.
Speaker 2: And that precisely what you just said is why I
Speaker 2: fucking hated it, because it seemed like they only did
Speaker 2: that in order to explain why everyone is doing stupid shit.
Speaker 2: These fucking kids were doing dumb shit throughout this entire series,
Speaker 2: and the only way they could make that work is
Speaker 2: for them to be kids, because if these were adults,
Speaker 2: it would be mind boggling stupid.
Speaker 1: Adults do stupid things too, and that's what I was
Speaker 1: trying to really kind of like work through, like because
Speaker 1: you know, it was like, okay, but yeah, but those
Speaker 1: in movies we've said over time, why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: That's stupid and as adults they shouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 1: As kids. It definitely makes sense, but I guess I
Speaker 1: was trying to work shopping in my head to kind
Speaker 1: of make it make more sense for why adults would
Speaker 1: end up doing something because adults sometimes don't ever really
Speaker 1: grow up anyway and do stupid stuff. Or maybe there's
Speaker 1: a certain arrogance to adulthood and for kids not know
Speaker 1: any better, they end up doing something gadiotic and stupid.
Speaker 4: Well, he was always thinking about it from the perspective,
Speaker 4: and he said it's towards it and of like how
Speaker 4: child's mind is constantly developing, there's no limits to it.
Speaker 1: So that's why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe some some kinks in the beginning because they
Speaker 4: are childlike minded, but eventually he can kind of mold
Speaker 4: them and they can expand their brain brains like from
Speaker 4: from us from the start, instead of being already established
Speaker 4: and stubborn in their ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but these their their brains stop developing. Me when
Speaker 1: they got put into the synth bodies.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if got a chance, well no,
Speaker 4: not Wendy's Wendy's scene to kind of continue to say.
Speaker 3: I thought there was a benefit of it, that the
Speaker 3: grains were going to grow into Lubaiah, that they will
Speaker 3: continuing to grow and learn.
Speaker 1: I thought, did they say that because they still seem
Speaker 1: like there were still kids?
Speaker 2: They were because you could tell Wendy was smarter than
Speaker 2: they were, which made no sense either old she was
Speaker 2: the oldest, she was not that much older to where
Speaker 2: she was so inredibly smarter than them.
Speaker 1: Maybe she was a genius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they should have said that she was a product.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is stupid.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no.
Speaker 2: Back to the show. Cutting back to the Magino, we
Speaker 2: see that xenomorphous loose and Borrow is the only one
Speaker 2: that made it out, and the ship crashes and they
Speaker 2: send a crew to investigate the ship, which the crew
Speaker 2: includes Wendy's brother Joe. But while exploring the ship, we
Speaker 2: see two soldiers enter the lab where they encounter a
Speaker 2: slug creature. What'd you think of when the slug creature
Speaker 2: attacked Rod? Where are we at right now? We're on
Speaker 2: the ship on.
Speaker 1: The Magine though.
Speaker 2: When the ship Imaginal crashes and they immediately dispatch a
Speaker 2: crew to go investigate the ship, you remember this part?
Speaker 2: I do remember, but I'm skipping a lot because we're
Speaker 2: not gonna be here till eight o'clock talking about the
Speaker 2: damn show.
Speaker 1: Okay, what what part do you have to talk about?
Speaker 2: I did like like that, I.
Speaker 1: Did like real quick. I was just gonna say. I
Speaker 1: did like how they.
Speaker 4: Set it up where you don't really understand what's happening
Speaker 4: on the on the first ship that was in space,
Speaker 4: on that ship in space before it crashed, like like
Speaker 4: it's like a bunch of chaos just fucking broke out.
Speaker 4: I thought I dozed off, Yeah yeah, but did I
Speaker 4: miss Yeah yeah, but but it comes back around, and
Speaker 4: I think it's dope.
Speaker 1: Pilot comes back around. So I just wanted to That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to point that out that they left
Speaker 4: that kind of open ended, like what the hell is
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 2: Shows anymore? Running around? Yeah, but you.
Speaker 1: Because it was just was fun because.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking xenomore. Of course it's gonna get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so.
Speaker 2: I thought that was cool when it landed.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I thought all of that was cool. Man.
Speaker 4: I like how she was able to see her brother
Speaker 4: through the monitors and ship, and I liked the role
Speaker 4: that he played. And yeah, like she started to get
Speaker 4: crazy at this point, like as they started to explore the.
Speaker 2: Ship as somebody else, ken, what did you think of
Speaker 2: when the bug attacked?
Speaker 1: I don't want to answer my.
Speaker 2: Ship, That's what you asked when the bug at when
Speaker 2: the slug thing attacked the two soldiers the slug remember their.
Speaker 1: Nets or whatever. It was basically like the tip That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was it was creepy. So you
Speaker 1: didn't think that ship was creepy? That was cool?
Speaker 4: So so yeah, all right, so I'm glad, Yeah, thank
Speaker 4: you for bringing back because I went back and I
Speaker 4: forgot what questions?
Speaker 1: Do? I know?
Speaker 2: I thought it was cool to see.
Speaker 1: Some news species on this show.
Speaker 4: So I thought I was like, oh, ship, they're introducing
Speaker 4: some new ones and that, and and I thought that
Speaker 4: ship was dope.
Speaker 1: Definitely one one of one of the one of my
Speaker 1: favorite aspects of the show were the other predators in
Speaker 1: this world. I think that is really exciting and that
Speaker 1: could really open up a lot of avenues for them
Speaker 1: to tell different stories. Uh, probably with better writers than Mike, like,
Speaker 1: but but now I thought that was deep and dope,
Speaker 1: and I was really looking forward to seeing what they
Speaker 1: all could do.
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, because all we see is the face
Speaker 4: huggers is what they call and there's anymoores.
Speaker 1: That's all we really see. But yeah, to introduce these
Speaker 1: new ones, I was like, oh, ship, I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this motherfucker? And they all did something different
Speaker 1: in a way.
Speaker 4: They all like attached themselves in different ways, and I
Speaker 4: thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: We'll definitely get to that later. So seeing that their brothers
Speaker 2: in there, Wendy volunteers to go in and help with
Speaker 2: the with the other kids, and the episode ends with
Speaker 2: her vowing to save her brother Spike. This was a
Speaker 2: good start for you.
Speaker 3: No, damn, I didn't. It took the fourth episode for
Speaker 3: me to be like, Okay, yeah, I'm a boy.
Speaker 1: What about y'all.
Speaker 4: No, it's a good start. Yeah, it was a good
Speaker 4: start for me. I was like, okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Was interested for the first two episodes and then I
Speaker 1: stopped watching interesting. So yeah, but the first first two
Speaker 1: because again, there were creatures on there, so I was
Speaker 1: kind of curious to see what they do. Yeah. Same.
Speaker 4: I thought they did a good job developing all the
Speaker 4: different characters, like the cyborg, the boy, genius, Wendy. It's
Speaker 4: a lot of characters they had to develop, the brother
Speaker 4: and I feel like they did a good job making
Speaker 4: all of these people interesting in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the brothers, he gets on my nerves.
Speaker 2: All right, So they were moved into episode two, and
Speaker 2: this is where we see the search and Rescue team
Speaker 2: looking through the ship and they encounter the Xenomorph. What
Speaker 2: did y'all think of this scene when the Xenomorph attacks
Speaker 2: them and Joe has to try to get away. Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he can't get his ass beat.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how does he not dead? Yeah? He's sorry
Speaker 1: as hell, But yeah, now a Xenomorph, the Xenomorph, this
Speaker 1: was felt it felt different. It did. It felt like
Speaker 1: it was hiding from him. It felt like it was
Speaker 1: kind of playing with his prey and stuff like that
Speaker 1: at times.
Speaker 2: So they they you don't remember that in Alien? No,
Speaker 2: not really, that was like the big moment in Alien.
Speaker 2: They do do that. They do blend with their with
Speaker 2: their background. Because remember when Ridley really Ripley is on
Speaker 2: the ship and she thinks that that she left the
Speaker 2: Xenomorph and isn't that the first Alien when she she
Speaker 2: thinks she's left the Xenomorph on the other ship and
Speaker 2: she takes the escape pod and then she's getting undressed
Speaker 2: and then it comes out of the wall.
Speaker 1: You remember this, Yeah, yeah, I do. But did it
Speaker 1: always kind of play with.
Speaker 2: His like that, not necessarily play with the prey like that,
Speaker 2: because I'm with you on that part, but the more
Speaker 2: blending in with the background.
Speaker 1: They do that, but I assume.
Speaker 2: It was trying to sneak up on them, because you know,
Speaker 2: the whole point of xenomorph drones is to take take
Speaker 2: the people and then get not they were supposed to
Speaker 2: be there from when they from when they when the
Speaker 2: babies come out, there'll be Yeah, but you said feed them.
Speaker 1: Oh, anyways, what do you mean to get them?
Speaker 2: You need to go watch the movie, Spike. I'm not
Speaker 2: about to sit here and explain all of Alien in
Speaker 2: the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch, he said, the show we just watched.
Speaker 2: God damn. Anyways, I'm trying to remember that. I know
Speaker 2: they fucked up a couple of soldiers, but it was
Speaker 2: it was chasing after Joe and Joe has to jump
Speaker 2: over the thing and whatever. We'll just skip the next.
Speaker 1: Partim or something like that.
Speaker 2: That's but they do do a flashback to where they
Speaker 2: explain why Joe is still on the job. Did you
Speaker 2: like that part, Spike?
Speaker 1: You know, damn, I didn't. I did get it that.
Speaker 3: I was really reluctantly watching this the first three episodes,
Speaker 3: but after the fourth one it did turn around. But no,
Speaker 3: I didn't like that part. I Joe was a simple
Speaker 3: like y'all said, I just it was hard for me
Speaker 3: to care about anything that was going on with him
Speaker 3: because he just was so much.
Speaker 1: Of it, like he was worthless. Yeah, he was just worthless.
Speaker 1: He was yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, he almost got his sister killed.
Speaker 1: Damn. I don't think he wanted to be this.
Speaker 4: He just had to be, so yeah, I don't think
Speaker 4: he inspired to be a soldier and dude, I think
Speaker 4: he just had to to survive.
Speaker 1: So I just kind of looked at it like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's an excuse to be bad.
Speaker 2: But the whole point is he was trying to resold
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't let him reive, and he was trying
Speaker 2: to go back to school because he promised his father,
Speaker 2: but they were like nah. And then Wendy hacked into him,
Speaker 2: was like talking and giving him ice Age lines, and
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, what.
Speaker 1: She was watching ice Age? That was the other movie
Speaker 1: they were watching? Ice Age?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's yeah, Yeah, it was fucking dumb. So
Speaker 2: while the Lost Boys are on the ship looking for
Speaker 2: the search and Rescue team, they encounter some creatures they
Speaker 2: see the plant monster, and then we get the eyeball monster,
Speaker 2: which is called the t oculus or the oculus, one
Speaker 2: of the two who they first find attached to a
Speaker 2: dead cat. So was this creepy to you?
Speaker 1: It was absolutely.
Speaker 4: Get the way that fucking cat turned around with that
Speaker 4: fucking big ass eye.
Speaker 1: That shit was creepy.
Speaker 4: And then he started coming out of the eye to
Speaker 4: try to get on the one the one kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 4: So I thought that was interesting, and that one is
Speaker 4: really really interesting because I'm like, what is the motive
Speaker 4: of that one?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't quite know yet of the uh one, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just to take over the host and be able to
Speaker 2: use it for its own whatever.
Speaker 1: But for what though?
Speaker 2: Contact the shitty writers in the show, Yeah, because they Yeah,
Speaker 2: because it at one point it it was going it
Speaker 2: seemed like it was going against the Xenomorph, and then
Speaker 2: another point it seemed like it was not for you know,
Speaker 2: the alien life forms.
Speaker 1: Mhm, y'all remember that? Oh yeah, that it was that it.
Speaker 4: Was not against the Xenomorph. Yeah, it was fighting in
Speaker 4: xenomorph at one point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but when was it when was it
Speaker 2: trying to help the Xenomorph?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Later on, I thought I thought it was trying
Speaker 1: to help.
Speaker 4: Later on, when it made when it made the hornets
Speaker 4: eat the guy when he bumped the glass so they
Speaker 4: can eat him, I.
Speaker 2: Don't that wasn't there. But there was no There was
Speaker 2: no xenomorph in the.
Speaker 4: You know what I see because I thought they all
Speaker 4: were a part of the saying clan see.
Speaker 2: That's another reason I thought this was stupid. All these
Speaker 2: creatures they all talked to each other somehow and decided, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to fuck this crew up together. It made
Speaker 2: no sense.
Speaker 1: I don't even think they were doing that though.
Speaker 2: But they work, and they were all trying to kill
Speaker 2: the crew.
Speaker 3: I think they were just trying to take over as host.
Speaker 2: I thought, no, no, no, I'm saying, is like the
Speaker 2: plant monster was trying to kill the crew. The slug
Speaker 2: things were trying to kill the crew, and the Oculus
Speaker 2: were trying to.
Speaker 1: Kill I think they were just acting as predators.
Speaker 3: I think they said that in the in the series.
Speaker 2: But it seemed like they started working together.
Speaker 1: I think there were only one that was really working.
Speaker 1: Oculus was working. I think it just wanted to create agenda.
Speaker 3: It wanted to create chaos because they know it's it's
Speaker 3: his best way out.
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought that.
Speaker 3: I thought everything else was just being like a predator
Speaker 3: in the environment.
Speaker 2: Wanted to do that because the oculus was trying to
Speaker 2: help the lady in the lab that time.
Speaker 1: Trying to help her. He was trying to chop on
Speaker 1: the glass.
Speaker 2: Like look, this was trying to distract, distracting so the
Speaker 2: other thing could get out. That's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 2: like they're working together and it's like, wait, why.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, see that whole time, I thought she was
Speaker 4: trying to warn her that this motherfucker trying to get
Speaker 4: in your water.
Speaker 2: No, no, that's crazy. So okay, So when Joe encounters
Speaker 2: the xenomorph at the party, what did y'all think of
Speaker 2: that scene? Do you remember the party?
Speaker 1: It was crazy because that thing came in there and
Speaker 1: messed for everybody up. Bro, Joe should have been killed.
Speaker 1: The black guy came in and saved them again Joe
Speaker 1: kill getting saved. Yeah, but I did fun with him though,
Speaker 1: Blacky the cyborg, Yeah yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like him, but uh but he he came through, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He wasn't fucking around like the cyborg Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, this this was dope because you've got
Speaker 1: a chance to see the xenomorph just go to work
Speaker 1: and it was slaughtering everybody. Joe should have been dead,
Speaker 1: but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he kept getting saved, kept getting said. So I
Speaker 4: thought that that was a little nose just you know,
Speaker 4: stop putting in these predicaments.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna keep them alive.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, And he sliced up the one and half,
Speaker 4: but he was still walking around.
Speaker 1: So was that other one aside like a cyboard or or.
Speaker 2: Something blood like the Cyborgs maybe, remember they have the
Speaker 2: milk looking ship that comes out.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 4: But they had like three kinds. They had a half hybrids, Cyborgs.
Speaker 1: What was the black dude? He was a cyborg?
Speaker 3: What was Danny? What was the white hair dude?
Speaker 2: The white hair he was like a security. He was
Speaker 2: like a he was like an old age one. He
Speaker 2: was like like the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was just like the same thing. I
Speaker 4: think they liked both the same thing. But he was
Speaker 4: just like an earlier version of them.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they were different because of the conversation
Speaker 3: that they.
Speaker 1: Head with each other. He was an earlier version, but
Speaker 1: they were talking like they wouldn't the same thing.
Speaker 4: They were, But it's kind of like the Determinator ship,
Speaker 4: like the two four thousand or whatever, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm better or whatever. You know, it's how I took it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Micha was gonna have all answers.
Speaker 2: I don't have any answers because this show is stupid, Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff is just kind of made
Speaker 2: up for this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't play the video games and shit either,
Speaker 2: so some of the ship could be from the video games.
Speaker 2: But I didn't care enough about the characters to go
Speaker 2: look any of it up because I'm just like, well,
Speaker 2: this is not interesting to me. But there's anomoorph for
Speaker 2: tax but it doesn't Killmorrow. But then Wendy and Smee,
Speaker 2: who's one of the other cyborgs or whatever, they find Joe,
Speaker 2: but instead of leaving, Kursh wants him to go secure
Speaker 2: a room full of cinamorph eggs. But once they get there,
Speaker 2: the episode ends with the Xenomorph grabbing Joe and Wendy
Speaker 2: running after him. Y'all y'all, y'all on board yet cool
Speaker 2: man at this point. Yeah, that was interesting the way
Speaker 2: that woe ended up. So I was like, I've been
Speaker 2: watching them throughout the week, but then that what make
Speaker 2: me here playing on the next one?
Speaker 1: So you're watching them week to week?
Speaker 3: No, No, I started and stopped because I ain't finish
Speaker 3: I was watching week.
Speaker 1: Oh you watched it week to week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why wouldn't I?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't up on it,
Speaker 1: and I watched them all at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's an alien show. Alien is one of my favorite franchises.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm on fucking board.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I wonder that's your experience.
Speaker 2: That's probably well that how does the show be terrible
Speaker 2: week to week?
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden you get to watch it
Speaker 3: back to back. You ain't gotta wait on like we
Speaker 3: said it all the time and stuff to develop out.
Speaker 2: It's still a bad like like walking down. It's still
Speaker 2: not a great show, but it's better when you binge it.
Speaker 2: And that's all I'm saying. Getting through the bad parts.
Speaker 2: That's why it's easier to bingd.
Speaker 4: But it may be more forgiving because you're you're able
Speaker 4: to pick up or something like where you thought something
Speaker 4: might have been lagging and now instead of sitting on
Speaker 4: it for a whole.
Speaker 3: Week, like you asked me, did I watch Power really
Speaker 3: like I would? I was watching that week the week
Speaker 3: I had to stop because it was so bad, But
Speaker 3: then once I binged it, it wasn't as bad.
Speaker 2: It's still bad though interesting, but it was not as
Speaker 2: bad as bad.
Speaker 1: But it was better when I binged.
Speaker 2: It's better than starting with Marcy. In episode three, she
Speaker 2: finds Joe, but then she gets attacked by the Xenomorph,
Speaker 2: and the battle ends with Marcy killing it by chopping
Speaker 2: its head off before it's a coming to her wounds
Speaker 2: alongside Joe also comes to his So whoever wants to
Speaker 2: jump in? What do you think of this sequence?
Speaker 3: I thought she was a shit creeped when they got
Speaker 3: locked in there. I thought she was low in there
Speaker 3: with the thing. I don't know she had a paper cutter.
Speaker 3: So you know it works out great.
Speaker 1: I don't get I still to this day, don't. I
Speaker 1: didn't go back and rewatch it, but this actually I
Speaker 1: made it to the episode no that go I think
Speaker 1: I made all the way to the episode three, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, is she gonna beat the xenomorph like in
Speaker 1: a one on one fight? And she did.
Speaker 2: She had the paper You sleep paper cutter, No, no, no,
Speaker 2: you're sleeping on aliens and xenomorphs. If I can shoot
Speaker 2: a xenomorph and it doesn't kill it, how the fuck
Speaker 2: am I killing a paper cutter.
Speaker 4: Paper cut is fucking heavy duty, And you know that
Speaker 4: because you went to Earth school.
Speaker 1: That sh it ain't no joke. I always like, man,
Speaker 1: somebody can suck the least acid. I feel you. This
Speaker 1: ship was so I feel you.
Speaker 2: But she was superhuman though, yeah, like a like a
Speaker 2: fucking avenger.
Speaker 1: I just know. And we didn't even see it. We
Speaker 1: just kind of heard it. So I'm like, oh, she
Speaker 1: got fucked up. Of course she couldn't get fucked up.
Speaker 1: She's one of the main characters. So it's just like, man,
Speaker 1: this thing really beat a Zina work.
Speaker 3: That's how it cheated. They didn't show it to us
Speaker 3: because they know they had no way for her to
Speaker 3: beat it. If they showed it to us, chopped his
Speaker 3: head off with a paper cutter, y'all.
Speaker 1: Well she died, y'all. Like she didn't. She didn't defeat it.
Speaker 1: They had to bring her back to life, so they
Speaker 1: defeated each other. She still won. She killed it.
Speaker 2: She chopped its head off, but she died doing it.
Speaker 2: She chopped its head off with a paper cutter. How
Speaker 2: is this not bothering y'all? Because she died as well,
Speaker 2: But that doesn't make the paper cutor stronger than it is.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was a fucking a magical paper cutter.
Speaker 2: Shit's a heavy duty. When she first ripped it off,
Speaker 2: she didn't really die.
Speaker 1: Give me a second.
Speaker 4: When she first ripped it off, I was like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck she really gonna use that weapon? And I
Speaker 4: thought about it, I'm like, no, the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all know what these things are. No, shits are heavy.
Speaker 3: Yes, a box cutter is what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: No, a paper cut It saw a box cutter. It's
Speaker 2: a paper cutter. Like it's heavy duty. It's heavy and
Speaker 2: you and she ripped the blade off of the ship.
Speaker 2: The blade is sharp as fuck.
Speaker 1: Sharper than a bullet.
Speaker 2: It is shropper than a bullet, but it doesn't have
Speaker 2: the same impact. But with her wilding wielding it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this ship was so dumb. I thought it was a
Speaker 2: cool weapon. This ship was so dumb. These in these
Speaker 2: space marines have these fucking rifles that they've been shooting
Speaker 2: at these aliens, but here come try to duck them.
Speaker 2: No they don't. They don't just let them shoot them.
Speaker 2: They do get hit and it doesn't kill them if you.
Speaker 1: It's like armor. But she can cut his head off
Speaker 1: with them, I'm not. Yeah, it's just it does bleed
Speaker 1: acid and then like a paper cutter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the acid can bleed and soak through multiple
Speaker 2: layers of a ship where she gets this fucking vibranium
Speaker 2: ass paper cutter. Look, this ship, this ship is like
Speaker 2: a big ass machete. Like, this ship is fucking the ship.
Speaker 2: Why would it not eat through a paper cutterranium? Man,
Speaker 2: I don't know, tuning out, Yeah she was dumb.
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Speaker 2: finds slightly Smee and Marrow, oh sorry, Maril finds slightly
Speaker 2: and Smee, and he kind of like holds them up
Speaker 2: and like he chokes slightly, and he puts a little
Speaker 2: thing in his neck. It was like a thing that
Speaker 2: helps him to talk to him later.
Speaker 1: It's like a little hacker thing.
Speaker 2: And we find out that Marrow's working with Utani to
Speaker 2: bring the creatures back, and we also find out that
Speaker 2: he's able to communicate to slightly through whatever he put
Speaker 2: in his neck. So was it interesting to see them
Speaker 2: experimenting on one of Joe's lungs with the xenomorph.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was in the bottle and then the
Speaker 1: Xenomorph came out of that mouffucker, right, Yeah, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was interesting because I was like, I didn't know they
Speaker 1: could do that, right, you know, there was that was
Speaker 1: some creepy ass experiments that they were doing, which of
Speaker 1: course was going to lead to doom later on. But nah,
Speaker 1: that that was that was pretty dope because he had
Speaker 1: took the little thing out and then later on she
Speaker 1: said that motherfucker was screaming and shit like that, so
Speaker 1: she heard it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was cool, like for yeah, she
Speaker 4: did hear it. I was wondering how that tie or whatnot,
Speaker 4: So I still look confused on that, But yeah, I
Speaker 4: like how you took the face hugger and basically dissected
Speaker 4: that ship and pulled out the embryo of it to
Speaker 4: experiment with it with smart as hell man like he
Speaker 4: was smart.
Speaker 1: And I liked his role.
Speaker 2: I did too.
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite. Yeah. I liked him
Speaker 1: and I like to, I like the Utaris her name.
Speaker 1: Y'all liked her too.
Speaker 4: I like, she's like, all, you're thinking of my grandmother,
Speaker 4: Like it's been sixty five years. She's like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: took over the company.
Speaker 1: So I mean I thought it was very flushed out
Speaker 1: and developed. I did. I'm really surprised you didn't.
Speaker 3: Because he watched The Week The week, right, so stupid.
Speaker 1: This ship is bad. Y'all liked it. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's I think you're gonna come around to it. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not as as as a super fan of this franchise.
Speaker 2: This absolutely aggravated the funk out of me multiple times,
Speaker 2: and I haven't even gotten to the parts that really
Speaker 2: fucking pissed me off. But so yeah, like y'all were
Speaker 2: just hinting at Marcy can now feel the xenomorphs. So
Speaker 2: the next episode starts with her. They're adjusting her hearing
Speaker 2: so it doesn't hurt her, but now she realizes that
Speaker 2: she can speak the language of the xenomorphs. Raise your
Speaker 2: hand if you thought this was cool. I thought this
Speaker 2: was fire.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, especially he said.
Speaker 3: He figured that the millionaire trillionaire dude figured it out
Speaker 3: and he was like if you you the machine and
Speaker 3: if you can hear it, you can regurgitate that sound.
Speaker 3: M h. I think that whole like him walking her
Speaker 3: through that thinking process of you just don't know how
Speaker 3: to do it yet, and then the hater kid, Yeah
Speaker 3: she knew French, like fucking French like speak this ship,
Speaker 3: and then her thinking about it and you're seeing it
Speaker 3: apply in real time and her thinking about it and
Speaker 3: then doing the sound.
Speaker 1: I thought that was cool. Oh where was this bothering you?
Speaker 1: Because we have been in this universe for so many decades.
Speaker 2: Okay, now this is this is this is creeping up
Speaker 2: on Acolyte territory for me because now we're realizing that
Speaker 2: they figured out that a machine can speak to xenomorphs.
Speaker 2: But when we're talking about however, many years later and
Speaker 2: we're on the ship with with Ripley in the first one,
Speaker 2: or we're on the ship with Ripley and the space
Speaker 2: breens in the second one, they are gonna have to
Speaker 2: explain why. At no point anybody said, hey man, I
Speaker 2: know the language of these things.
Speaker 1: Maybe I can talk to them and get them to
Speaker 1: stop fucking us up.
Speaker 2: They got to explain this shit, just like the fucking
Speaker 2: acolyte had to explain why Kiyota MUNDI never knew that
Speaker 2: there was another fucking sith, Like, you're they're just adding
Speaker 2: shit to these stories and not thinking them through.
Speaker 1: This wasn't a good idea. The fact that we can
Speaker 1: talk to them now that they have a langue. The
Speaker 1: only way they can make this make sense, Mike, is
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to say that everybody that knew
Speaker 1: this is possible. Yeah, it's the only way. And it
Speaker 1: seems like towards the end that that's kind of maybe
Speaker 1: where they were gonna go with it. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just so dumb, dude.
Speaker 4: So so this is so let me get it straight.
Speaker 4: So this Alien Earth is before the first Alien movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, how do we know that?
Speaker 1: They said it? Yeah, there's a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's twenty one to twenty and the original Alien
Speaker 2: is in I.
Speaker 1: Mean there's a photo they released that has all of
Speaker 1: the timeline of the movies in the series. So this
Speaker 1: is like a prequel to Alien. Yeah, it's like right
Speaker 1: before Alien Covenant, and yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so this is twenty one twenty The
Speaker 2: Alien film is in twenty one twenty two, So this
Speaker 2: is this is right before that. Yeah, so two years later,
Speaker 2: no one knows was that there was a machine on
Speaker 2: Earth that could speak the language.
Speaker 1: It's just stupid. It was weird. I wasn't that much
Speaker 1: of a fan of especially how it was utilized. Thanks
Speaker 1: for ruining it for me for the rest of the series,
Speaker 1: basically turning a Xenomorph into a pet dog.
Speaker 2: We'll get there, but anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I don't know why they did this and what
Speaker 1: made her so special to be able to tune in
Speaker 1: and hear it where no other one of the other
Speaker 1: Sense creatures mean sense could made no sense special. They're
Speaker 1: all design designed the same, but they weren't.
Speaker 2: They weren't developing the same way, and she developed to
Speaker 2: the point where she can speak another They kept alluding
Speaker 2: to her having they kept alluding to her being like
Speaker 2: a genius or something, though she was a child, old.
Speaker 1: Child, they said, before she was able to do that.
Speaker 2: She was already able to hack into the systems and
Speaker 2: all this other ship. Yes, but for her to be
Speaker 2: able to immediately learn how to speak the Xenomorph language,
Speaker 2: it was just a useless thing to add to the show.
Speaker 2: It's just done.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of process of power. She figured that
Speaker 1: ship out like quickly.
Speaker 2: Man, I hated this ship so fucking bad. Okay, so
Speaker 2: let's jump to a part that I did think that
Speaker 2: was kind of cool. Did y'all like them testing the
Speaker 2: alien eyeball on the lamb?
Speaker 1: That was fire?
Speaker 3: That was creepiest hell the whole time. It's it's funny
Speaker 3: that you can make a lamb scary. You walk in
Speaker 3: the room and you see that thing looking at you
Speaker 3: with guy, man, I'm out of that can. I didn't
Speaker 3: think they were going to show it as much as
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was surprised and impressed. I
Speaker 1: was like, they gonna They're gonna punk out, and they
Speaker 1: showed that motherfucker go for their eyeballs, pluck the other
Speaker 1: one out go.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I really like that. If this was
Speaker 2: not an alien show, I think I would have thought
Speaker 2: it was fine because that little eyeball Jammer was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was startist the serious.
Speaker 2: So what did you think about the whole thing Withmorrow
Speaker 2: and slightly about how he talks him into getting a
Speaker 2: xenomorph egg by blackmailing him saying he's gonna hurt his parents,
Speaker 2: which is again, this is why they made them kids
Speaker 2: because they're easy to manipulate, and it makes the story
Speaker 2: easier for them to write.
Speaker 1: However, even adults would fall under that sort of pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and their family is threatened because I thought the same thing,
Speaker 1: and I have to go, well, you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: the movies. They do it with adults too, So I
Speaker 1: kind of let that go. But of course it made
Speaker 1: it easier for him to do it because he's still younger.
Speaker 1: But I didn't even know they were really even in
Speaker 1: contact with their parents or family like that. They're not,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He still doesn't.
Speaker 2: One of his parents death, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so but yeah, I mean it was a way
Speaker 1: to you know, compel him to do his bidding, and
Speaker 1: it worked. He struggled with the decision, but you know
Speaker 1: it worked.
Speaker 2: Were y'all intrigued when uh alas Rod when Marcy started
Speaker 2: chilling with the little xenomorph the hatch from Joe's lung,
Speaker 2: and she was just like, hey, little baby, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean you had to do that to establish what
Speaker 4: they were trying to show later that they were, you know,
Speaker 4: she had she could kind of communicate with them. I mean,
Speaker 4: because we've seen xenamore is like fucking not fuck with
Speaker 4: us for all these movies, and and so they had
Speaker 4: to establish like this relationship between her and this xenomore.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was fine with it. Y'all were finding
Speaker 1: it too, Yeah, no, you wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was infuriated.
Speaker 1: You want these motherfuckers to suck up. That's what they are.
Speaker 2: Only serve the queen and there's no between her like she.
Speaker 1: Was the queen. Doesn't make any goddamn because the queen
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Yeah, but what why her though? And I
Speaker 1: asked that because like, no, they're not, there's no relationship.
Speaker 1: Why why it should have been Joe though? And that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of the disconnect. Like you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: historically movies and stuff like oh, well I thinks I'm
Speaker 1: the mom when it's born or you know, just born
Speaker 1: and looking at it. We sitting in wild World about
Speaker 1: or whatever we just saw a while ago. But this
Speaker 1: came out of Joe, and yeah, she was the first person.
Speaker 1: I think it was the first person that it saw.
Speaker 1: But you can clearly see that don't look anything like
Speaker 1: you bro, you know. So yeah, it just I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she can talk and play with this thing like it's
Speaker 1: not a threat to her at all. This was dumb
Speaker 1: as fuck to me. I didn't get it all because
Speaker 1: she can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll you're talking like the little motherfuckers in us.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we get to episode five, which some
Speaker 2: people call this the best episode of the season. This
Speaker 2: is the flashback episode to what happens on the Mage.
Speaker 2: You know. Yes, So Marl's awakened because fire happens, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start trying to skip over shit because this
Speaker 2: is going along. It's like I thought it would, so
Speaker 2: seriously doing well you are, But he's at the halfway point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, that's good. No, it's not.
Speaker 2: This whole thing is gonna be an hour and twenty long.
Speaker 1: It's a hole I'll take.
Speaker 2: I'll take an hour and twenty. No, it's not just kidding,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: So mar wakes up.
Speaker 2: There's a fire on the ship and it's caused the
Speaker 2: face huggers to get out and attached to two officers.
Speaker 2: One of the offerers is dead because they tried to
Speaker 2: cut the tail off, and the other one is alive.
Speaker 2: What did y'all think of this part? I'm gonna start with.
Speaker 1: You, Spike.
Speaker 2: Oh no, weever go ahead?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like throw back alien to me because
Speaker 4: you see them on their faces and all that, we
Speaker 4: already know how that well I know you don't, but yeah,
Speaker 4: we know how that whole sequence of events going. So
Speaker 4: I thought that was cool to be able to kind
Speaker 4: of like, oh, yeah, we know what happened here, shit
Speaker 4: got crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought that was cool. I love the
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't know any better. So you know
Speaker 1: you think that that you thought you thought the doctor
Speaker 1: should have known? Yes? Really why?
Speaker 2: Because they were they went out to collect these specimens.
Speaker 2: M Nobody was like, maybe we should really secure these
Speaker 2: things and figure out what they do. How would you though,
Speaker 2: if you don't see them in action, why would you
Speaker 2: bring they ask back on the ship and not ask
Speaker 2: any questions though they were sent to collect specimens.
Speaker 1: I sort of unders stand, but I to a certain
Speaker 1: the ground understand what rock because I don't think they
Speaker 1: even there's a lot we don't know.
Speaker 2: These were the dumbest scientists I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot we don't know, And like, how
Speaker 1: did you know where to go look for them? Et cetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So I I'm not that but but that would lead
Speaker 1: cretics to what you're saying. It's like, if you know
Speaker 1: where to find them, then you shall have some idea
Speaker 1: what they are and what they do, so I can
Speaker 1: get that. But I do like the fact that it
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, wrapped around his neck. I just
Speaker 1: tried to cut it off and oops, like it acid
Speaker 1: came out of it, just severed his head. It was
Speaker 1: like they really didn't know anything about these creatures and
Speaker 1: what they wait they do. But I also don't know
Speaker 1: how they will be able to get close enough to
Speaker 1: study them to get any information.
Speaker 2: So when we when we look at the original alien
Speaker 2: and the way that they were tricked into bringing this
Speaker 2: thing back on the ship, or even when you're looking
Speaker 2: at aliens, the way they were tricked and manipulated into
Speaker 2: bringing these things back on the ship, that made sense.
Speaker 2: This doesn't make sense to me. This wasn't like a
Speaker 2: big crew. It was just like a couple of dudes
Speaker 2: and they were just like, Hey, go to this planet
Speaker 2: and there's.
Speaker 1: Some like eggs.
Speaker 2: Just go get one of these eggs and that's that's it.
Speaker 2: And they bring it back on and then this happens
Speaker 2: and they're just like all right, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: And they didn't even seem upset that the dude was
Speaker 2: killed because acid came They were just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we tried to chop man. Acid came out. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: It was like, what am I watching here? Know? They
Speaker 1: wouldn't that was their friend. Well, the girl was upset
Speaker 1: because that was there wasn't really aloof He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to do this and then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's almost like a joke.
Speaker 3: It was really weird he did. He was very I
Speaker 3: thought that was speaking. I thought that was speaking more
Speaker 3: to his incompetence than anything.
Speaker 1: Though. I thought I just took him as well. It
Speaker 1: showed up later. But if they they only brought back eggs,
Speaker 1: then yeah, I can also see them not knowing egg Yeah.
Speaker 1: But now now I'm asking the question, how do you
Speaker 1: get close enough to get to the egg if you're
Speaker 1: a human.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that didn't break out, what did What
Speaker 2: do you mean the face huggers when they brought eggs
Speaker 2: back on the ship and then the eggs opened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get close to the eggs, they start
Speaker 1: to they start to open him. But they didn't know that.
Speaker 2: But but his point is the whole The whole thing
Speaker 2: with xenomorph eggs is when you get close to him,
Speaker 2: they realize that's a human or a host and they
Speaker 2: immediately start to open. So if you're human, how are
Speaker 2: you even getting close enough to it to pick two
Speaker 2: eggs up and bring it on a ship? That's why
Speaker 2: without opening, That's why I hear, Yeah, did it ever
Speaker 2: show him getting close to a xenomorph egg? I don't
Speaker 2: think they opened for them, like the same way they
Speaker 2: opened up for the silver hair guy, but all the
Speaker 2: way he's an actual robot body. The black guy is
Speaker 2: part human, part machine.
Speaker 1: Maybe they was halfway through.
Speaker 2: Don't make no sense.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. You have to like stretch your I know
Speaker 1: I'm asking too many questions, but I feel like how
Speaker 1: naive as stupid they were because they wouldn't know that
Speaker 1: when this thing wraps his neck around it, that it
Speaker 1: would tighten and then it can cut it. It would
Speaker 1: bleed acid.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It should have scared the ship out of them for
Speaker 1: the rest of the damn ryde home. What they gonna do.
Speaker 3: Though, Like, even if the head like responded to what
Speaker 3: y'all said, what was it in space?
Speaker 2: At least give me like when it happened in Alien.
Speaker 2: They were like, oh fuck, and they had to go
Speaker 2: run down the fucking stairs and go look and see
Speaker 2: what's going on. These guys are just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: try to cut it. And it killed this guy that
Speaker 2: we've known for the past however many months, he's.
Speaker 1: Just dead unless just freeze it and put it into
Speaker 1: this thing. That was stupid. Yeah, but they didn't know
Speaker 1: any better. They didn't know it was gonna well that
Speaker 1: that leads to the next scene.
Speaker 2: They try to freeze the officer with the face hugger,
Speaker 2: but after finding out that the fire ruined their navigation system,
Speaker 2: they see that the xenomorphis now hatched out of the
Speaker 2: guy that was frozen and they have to go try
Speaker 2: to hunt it. But let's talk about the scene with
Speaker 2: Her name is Shahboozoo. This is the chick that looked
Speaker 2: like Arnold Rummond with the with the little mini afro. Wow,
Speaker 2: let's talk about Chiboo Chiboozy. No, that was the other
Speaker 2: guy they were calling Chlamydia. Okay, that'd be fun if
Speaker 2: they were calling her chlamydia. That's dirty. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: her in the lab Okay, go ahead, Oh creepy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think about this scene.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought this was creepy. I thought it was
Speaker 4: intense because that thing got out, just shot its load
Speaker 4: and water.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: So the whole time, I'm like, damn, she's gonna drink
Speaker 1: this ship. Oh my god, she's gonna be so fucked
Speaker 1: up if she drank this.
Speaker 4: So that whole and then they kept playing around with
Speaker 4: that because she kept like kind of looking at it,
Speaker 4: playing picking it up. So I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 4: I thought the eye was trying to save her. I
Speaker 4: did not know that I was trying to distract her.
Speaker 1: They made a point to say that that thing was
Speaker 1: intelligent later on it has human level, probably more more
Speaker 1: human intelligence than a human.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so but that makes now that makes more sense
Speaker 4: on how it calculated the hornets thing that happened.
Speaker 1: But but now, yeah, I thought this scene was good.
Speaker 1: I thought this scene was really good.
Speaker 2: Spike, do you think this scene was really good?
Speaker 3: I thought she was careless at this point. I thought
Speaker 3: everybody on the ship was incompetent exself for the black gun.
Speaker 3: Like if you like, this is a hot tech labs
Speaker 3: christ and you are in space, and like they just
Speaker 3: really nearly like ship falling over and like this one.
Speaker 1: I get with you.
Speaker 3: I get your gripful this because I said the same
Speaker 3: thing as I was watching.
Speaker 1: I was like, now, why these people are so dumb?
Speaker 2: But she had it sealed, have their bottle open a lab.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even go to a hoarder house with roaches
Speaker 2: and leave my bottle open.
Speaker 1: You're in a lab that's human incomfidence, and they tend
Speaker 1: to relax the procolls as they.
Speaker 2: Get comfortable with specimens. You don't know what they do.
Speaker 2: They're locked up though before she knows.
Speaker 1: Man, So I do agree, but I can't eat. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that shit happens a lot until the you know,
Speaker 1: even now somebody got their ship. I suppose the issue
Speaker 1: I had with it is that you just you know,
Speaker 1: you have predators. You know, you have dangerous creatures. And
Speaker 1: when I think that, when they walked in and are like, oh,
Speaker 1: that secure the spot, and she was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know if one of the if it wasn't secure,
Speaker 1: we have a red light on blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, you just saw this thing got to attack somebody.
Speaker 1: Themorrow was telling you that it was more than likely sabotage,
Speaker 1: and you're in there still running experiments and not trying
Speaker 1: to find, like get to the hard of the matter
Speaker 1: what happened, and just being and just teasing the things.
Speaker 1: Oh what she say, take a picture, Take a picture
Speaker 1: of the eye. And it's also a human arrogance to
Speaker 1: think that they're the smartest thing on the planet, that
Speaker 1: nothing is ever as smart as them, just because it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like that at this point that thing was
Speaker 1: out right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was out was out running around and she's
Speaker 2: in there drinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was part of the issue, is like there's
Speaker 1: this thing running around, it's dangerous creature and you're in
Speaker 1: your running experiments. But it's a seal room. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's still a dangerous creature running around that could get
Speaker 1: in there. No, the creature couldn't get in it in
Speaker 1: this in this containment unit.
Speaker 4: No, how do you know that Because it was a
Speaker 4: seal containing they couldn't get it get in every room.
Speaker 2: They get in every single.
Speaker 1: Room, adults, there there has to be some sort of ventilation.
Speaker 1: Not this room. Why are you just making stuff up?
Speaker 1: I'm not making this. Showed it.
Speaker 2: They showed that this room had like three fucking doors
Speaker 2: that closed behind it. But what makes you think is
Speaker 2: any more can't get through that.
Speaker 1: They didn't show it. They didn't show it. They're like
Speaker 1: they're sort of ventilation shafts or air ducts or something
Speaker 1: that it could it could have called through, but not
Speaker 1: in this room.
Speaker 2: This motherfucker had had butts these things all the time
Speaker 2: and eventually they break, just like it was just like
Speaker 2: it broke into the room where Marol.
Speaker 1: I didn't get in there. Which room was that he
Speaker 1: sealed that motherfucker off. He like he helded the door.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that part. But the other thing though
Speaker 1: that I had issue is is she didn't even secure
Speaker 1: the thing when she put it back. Yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: the issue. You're asideist. Your job is to make sure
Speaker 1: you see that buffer go to green. And that's the
Speaker 1: only way he got out because if it would have
Speaker 1: been sealed, he would have still made the table. Once
Speaker 1: he saw that it was red, all he had to
Speaker 1: do was, which was smart, he looked. See.
Speaker 2: This is the issue that I have with the writing
Speaker 2: on this show. It's like people will be like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, you have to have people doing stupid stuff
Speaker 2: otherwise this other thing can't happen. But it's like, well,
Speaker 2: why don't you just make them make the characters semi
Speaker 2: intelligent and then make things fucked up that still happened
Speaker 2: to them, because that makes the story move better. In
Speaker 2: the original Alien, I don't remember ever thinking like, oh,
Speaker 2: these guys are dumb as fuck.
Speaker 1: I definitely thought they're watching this. But this was my
Speaker 1: favorite episode.
Speaker 2: That's why I brought it up earlier, because this this
Speaker 2: tied that, because that brought that home. Was wondering the
Speaker 2: whole time those what happened. I was wondering, Okay, wondering
Speaker 2: what happened when the dude drank the water and was
Speaker 2: infected by the tips. He drank water because spicy or
Speaker 2: maybe something spicery was choking.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take your water. And then he starts in
Speaker 2: a blood. They bring him into the lab and they
Speaker 2: cut him open, and then they're trying to pull on
Speaker 2: the tics off and take farts and everybody dies.
Speaker 1: This was so stupid.
Speaker 3: Really, oh my god, this was fine, bro Rod, I.
Speaker 1: Was one of the God Okay. The reason why I
Speaker 1: feel like this is stupid is because they just did
Speaker 1: a feled dispeament on somebody else and kills somebody.
Speaker 2: Pulling the pulling the tics off. You thought that would
Speaker 2: have happened though, I wouldn't think that would happen. But
Speaker 2: at this point, like we're out of our depth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's dead already. I'm like, this ain't gonna help.
Speaker 2: This ain't gonna bring this man alive. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: he didn't think that.
Speaker 1: You You can't. You can't take that chance because you
Speaker 1: don't know anything about these creatures. You have no knowledge
Speaker 1: of it at all.
Speaker 2: But you're also trying to save a dude that's clearly dead.
Speaker 2: Is he clearly dead? He's clearly dead, and I thought
Speaker 2: it was clearly dead. But they thought they save them. No,
Speaker 2: they were trying to get it.
Speaker 1: Was like, I'm trying to save his life, to get
Speaker 1: the tics off, but you just tried to say somebody
Speaker 1: else life and killed him.
Speaker 4: Righted it again? Somebody else tried to say somebody else life.
Speaker 4: Not that particular person was the same.
Speaker 1: I thought it was the same guy. But even it
Speaker 1: wasn't we know that somebody had to say somebody life
Speaker 1: and die.
Speaker 2: You gotta try, right, No, mean, even if you gotta try,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that the bumblebee farted rod. It wasn't
Speaker 2: it was fart. It was like a fart inside that
Speaker 2: wasn't on his lungs or something. So they they once
Speaker 2: they pulled him off, it came out of his lungs.
Speaker 1: No, I thought that it's a defense of the tick.
Speaker 1: It's like stupid. I don't know. I wouldn't necessarily know
Speaker 1: it was. It was stupid. I should have killed him
Speaker 1: like that. I don't think it should have been that
Speaker 1: toxic to where it killed him. Hey, I am glad
Speaker 1: y'all enjoyed this ship. Man.
Speaker 2: I thought it was, Oh my god, this motherfucker farted,
Speaker 2: and y'all like, yeah, killed. Are sure when you said
Speaker 2: killed the that sounds crazy.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what would happened, because you
Speaker 1: knew something that happened when he tried to pull the
Speaker 1: tike off, and that's what I was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you stupid idiots. I just don't like the decision of
Speaker 1: trying to just save it, like you don't like the
Speaker 1: decisions him trying to save the man.
Speaker 2: My thing is, you got a fucking lab and nothing
Speaker 2: in this ship can say hey man. Because again, in
Speaker 2: the original, which is only two years later, they're able
Speaker 2: to scan I forget the guy's name, they're able to
Speaker 2: scan him and see what that thing is down his throat.
Speaker 1: You got these fucking unpaused pro homo.
Speaker 2: You got this guy with his whole chest opened up
Speaker 2: and some fucking some locusts, and he's like, let me.
Speaker 1: Just pull it off.
Speaker 2: This is the future. Let me just pull this shit off.
Speaker 1: Dude. This is so dumb. But okay, fine.
Speaker 2: Marl discovers that somebody has sabotage the ship and the
Speaker 2: guy did it because he was promised a new body
Speaker 2: by Cavalier.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 2: I'll tell me. Was this cool when they figured out
Speaker 2: who it was. I think it gave him good motive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think it was smart.
Speaker 3: I like Cavalier's character, and I like the fact that
Speaker 3: he calls all like he tried to act like it
Speaker 3: was an accident. We found out to the fifth episode
Speaker 3: that he set all of this up so he could
Speaker 3: examine whatever they had going on.
Speaker 2: That seemed pretty obvious to me.
Speaker 1: You thought he was.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, he's absolutely behind. What the shitty
Speaker 2: ass writing of this show and the way he was
Speaker 2: acting the whole time, and the fact that we have
Speaker 2: not seen what happened on the ship. I was like,
Speaker 2: the ship was sabotaged. Somebody made it crash. I bet
Speaker 2: you boy Cavalier has a part in it.
Speaker 1: Interesting, I did not think that.
Speaker 2: Well did y'all think it was cool? When they figured
Speaker 2: out who it was that sabotage ship?
Speaker 1: We didn't even see you or know about that guy.
Speaker 3: Was like, just because they air pods don't mean that
Speaker 3: they in there. Wait, what are you talking? I'm talking
Speaker 3: about something different.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing it's led up to. Well, okay,
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about Tang real quick, we can.
Speaker 2: That irritated the fuck out of me. It was a
Speaker 2: complete mister wreck and it was a cheap mister wrect
Speaker 2: because it was like, look, we're watching the show. You're
Speaker 2: making it overly obvious.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it.
Speaker 2: That Tang is creepy and maybe evil, so therefore we
Speaker 2: know he didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: So then you're skipping to.
Speaker 2: This guy who we don't even know, so why would
Speaker 2: we care that it was Oh my god, it was
Speaker 2: Potchenski Pochinski did it?
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is? Then they never shootout on the.
Speaker 2: Ship, I think, and when they're hiding behind the little thing.
Speaker 2: There's the one guy that's already shot, and then there's Morrow,
Speaker 2: who is in clear view of the door. The dude
Speaker 2: comes in and shoots the guy he already shot.
Speaker 1: This is dumb dude.
Speaker 3: It makes sense that he was able to turn him
Speaker 3: with the promise of the new body because he talked
Speaker 3: about it later. As far as using low intelligence people
Speaker 3: to get what he wants. I feel like he thought
Speaker 3: that that dude was probably the dumbest dude on the ship,
Speaker 3: and that's how I get him to flip it.
Speaker 1: Then they should have they should have given us this episode.
Speaker 2: Five should have been two episodes, make us connect to
Speaker 2: these characters, make us surprise that it's Patchinski or whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck his name was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised because.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what the fuck this do?
Speaker 1: What even is? I don't so I don't care. It
Speaker 1: didn't bother me the way it did, but I did
Speaker 1: feel like it was definitely they were definitely cheating and
Speaker 1: trying to be slick. No, that's normally a cheat for me.
Speaker 1: But it didn't bother me that much.
Speaker 2: All right, So does anymore attacks the super fun ass
Speaker 2: brown woman did y'all like this scene. When there's anymore
Speaker 2: attacks her, she ran away.
Speaker 1: She was like that until she saw it and then
Speaker 1: she ran. Yeah, and then she ran into the titaculus
Speaker 1: or whatever that thing was. I just understand why she
Speaker 1: just stood there. I didn't she was, She didn't she
Speaker 1: That's not even her man that's in there. Her man
Speaker 1: is dead. Rosky. Rosky's out of here. He was the
Speaker 1: one that had the xenomore popped out because she she
Speaker 1: gave the goat. She didn't, she didn't act as a captain,
Speaker 1: and she gave the go ahead for them to do that,
Speaker 1: which led to that death. So she was just like
Speaker 1: mourning in a sense. I can see y'all weren't bothered
Speaker 1: by what I was bothered by.
Speaker 2: Spike, did you like this scene?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I thought it was. It made sense as
Speaker 3: well as her being the captain in her having agree
Speaker 3: your surviving.
Speaker 1: How she and the motherfuck did she?
Speaker 2: And granted again, she was fine as hell, but she
Speaker 2: didn't look like she was some amazing shaped woman. How
Speaker 2: the fuck did she outrun this anomoph guys, because she
Speaker 2: stopped them with the doors and stuff before that. When
Speaker 2: she immediately took off, she didn't get a good She
Speaker 2: didn't because it anymore was right there.
Speaker 1: I feel like she got a good head started. This
Speaker 1: is where I thought they were kind of playing. It
Speaker 1: was kind of that's what That's what I thought, you
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I thought. That's why I was like,
Speaker 1: is he just kind of playing around with this thing?
Speaker 1: And like, is it really just not gonna just flat
Speaker 1: out just go ahead and kill her? This killed me.
Speaker 1: This scene is supposed to be fast.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're fast, and this woman again and she was
Speaker 2: like Jackie, join her cursey kind of shape, fine, but
Speaker 2: she could bear Dom could have caught her. She ran
Speaker 2: and then immediately there's Anymorph went after her and he's
Speaker 2: jumping off the walls and ship and she outran them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, brother show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they spared her for really no reason at all,
Speaker 1: none yet none. They spare her all the way to
Speaker 1: get into the.
Speaker 3: Room justice, you know, the black dudes evil or what
Speaker 3: they wanted us to believe.
Speaker 1: You know, he knew she was stupid and incompetent, but
Speaker 1: we we didn't know that he wouldn't have any sympathy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Well, we did know that by episodeive because we already
Speaker 2: saw that he's kind of evil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's evil, but he he had been on her
Speaker 1: the whole time she's in a relationship. She was trying
Speaker 1: to get kicked off his captain. Actually, he gave her
Speaker 1: so many opportunities. She filled every single step, and the
Speaker 1: last ones when she got that got killed. That's what
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm the captain now. That's why he
Speaker 1: didn't care for her anymore, because she's useless. After that point,
Speaker 1: She's useless nothing. No decision she's made has been beneficial
Speaker 1: to the ship.
Speaker 2: That's why this episode I'm bugged out by by by
Speaker 2: people that loved it.
Speaker 1: So much, like, oh my god, this was like the
Speaker 1: best episode.
Speaker 2: Because it brought everything together, because it was dropped in
Speaker 2: the in the middle of mediocrity.
Speaker 1: It gave what I'm saying, what I saw a lot
Speaker 1: of people say is that it felt like Alien. It
Speaker 1: gave an Alien movie.
Speaker 2: It did because they just ripped off Alien. They just
Speaker 2: copy what we've already seen.
Speaker 1: But they needed to do that though, because up to
Speaker 1: this point, Remember I said, up to this point, everything
Speaker 1: that was leading up to it was relatively weak. I
Speaker 1: stopped watching by it three yeah, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let the episodes pile up because it was
Speaker 1: really slow in parts for me, and they were good
Speaker 1: episodes and they were bad episodes. Then, you know, it
Speaker 1: started off hot and then it kind of cooled off,
Speaker 1: and then it got I like this, and then it
Speaker 1: kind of cooled off again. But nevertheless, M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well all right, I hated this, but I'm glad
Speaker 2: y'all thought it was cool. She's killed by the Xenomorph
Speaker 2: and then we're taken to present day where Mar's meeting
Speaker 2: with you Tani, where he offers to help her retrieve
Speaker 2: the specimens, which takes us into episode six.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, why the hell did that eye
Speaker 1: creature think it could beat that zeny war.
Speaker 2: We haven't caught there yet.
Speaker 1: It's in the same episode. Did that happen in episode yes?
Speaker 1: Remember when she walked in she ran away from it,
Speaker 1: walked in the door, and that guy was standing there
Speaker 1: and that thing and they and they got into a
Speaker 1: fist and they got into a.
Speaker 4: Fight, and that's why I thought, Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 4: thought that he was against the xenomar.
Speaker 1: I think so the only thing I could kind of
Speaker 1: try to infer from this is that it's just territorial
Speaker 1: or that these creatures just will end up just fighting
Speaker 1: each other for whatever reason, like like Alpha, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're being challenged for your top spot. And for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, this one little eye with little, little wavy,
Speaker 1: little octopus whatever tentacles thought it could beat this full
Speaker 1: fledged xenomore with a human.
Speaker 2: This was really stupid. It made no sense, and it
Speaker 2: wasn't even like a young human. This was already an
Speaker 2: old ass white human. And he jumped on the Xenomorore's back.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck am I watching? What
Speaker 2: am I watching? Is he seriously jumping on his back and.
Speaker 1: The xenomore it was struggling. What the hell is this?
Speaker 1: This is so bad, dude. But Spike, you don't have
Speaker 1: to You see this in a morph and you saw
Speaker 1: the eye and you saw the human.
Speaker 2: Maybe he thought he was smart enough to beat them.
Speaker 1: Looking at.
Speaker 2: You have four started stabbing him, Spike, you jump on
Speaker 2: his back and started stabbing him. Spike, this thing took
Speaker 2: out a whole It was taking down soldiers, but I
Speaker 2: think it took our soldiers because it had the element
Speaker 2: of surprise.
Speaker 1: And in the but you know what aliens are so
Speaker 1: because I think.
Speaker 4: I think in the other movies it was element of surprise.
Speaker 4: It was dark, it was smoky. It was like they
Speaker 4: they didn't know they were well I guess they didn't
Speaker 4: know what they were doing with either. But you're talking
Speaker 4: about the eye. The eye does know what anomoreph is
Speaker 4: so much jump on his back back and start stabbing him.
Speaker 1: Ye. I don't even know if the eye really There's
Speaker 1: so much we don't know about the creatures. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the creatures even know each other.
Speaker 2: They got to I think they do how they each other,
Speaker 2: like they got them from the same air. I think
Speaker 2: they came from different Yeah, it didn't explain any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we don't know.
Speaker 2: They never really total And the whole element of surprise
Speaker 2: stuff is not true because after the element of surprise,
Speaker 2: after they know they're there and they go out there
Speaker 2: like okay, here there is anymore. Let's go to battle,
Speaker 2: they still lose because you can't kill us.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: I knew what the the beat things are gonna do
Speaker 3: because you've been watching them.
Speaker 1: It watches everything because it's.
Speaker 2: Watch all right, because we couldn't skipped that. No, you're right,
Speaker 2: I for some reason, Uh, what time is our meeting?
Speaker 1: Six? No, I supposed to be Oh yeah, yeah, six,
Speaker 1: all right, six, No, it's supposed to I thought it
Speaker 1: was at five, but it's five thirty now. Well it
Speaker 1: looks like it was like we probably a lot into
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 2: But Jayla's not here, so I'm assuming we're not having
Speaker 2: to meet.
Speaker 3: And there listening. I think he's gonna come in here.
Speaker 2: When all right, I'm gonna try to get through these
Speaker 2: last three episodes. They reprogrammed nibs Ta her memory from
Speaker 2: before the ship's crash, and then we have the meeting
Speaker 2: between Cavalier and Utanni where Cavalier tricks her. Uh, he
Speaker 2: tricks her basically into giving him twenty million in damages,
Speaker 2: but he's also going to hold the specimens for six weeks.
Speaker 1: She's so stupid, she's very stupid. Should have known that.
Speaker 2: Uh okay, so we're talking about the people making stupid decisions.
Speaker 2: What did you think about what went down with Tootles
Speaker 2: when he went to check the lab by himself and
Speaker 2: got jacked.
Speaker 1: Wait, you're talking about Tootles. Is the kid not not
Speaker 1: the husband? No, the kid?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where he walked in the room and the oculus
Speaker 2: lamb was like, hey, I bet if I scare him
Speaker 2: he'll fall. No, his name is Tootles.
Speaker 1: The issue, No, it was the I don't know what
Speaker 1: he was, but yeah he was brown. Yeah, he renamed
Speaker 1: Isaac after Isaac Newton, but his name I'm still oh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he renamed them he was, but he renamed himself. I
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: He was going now fine, But either way, Mike Issuac
Speaker 2: got killed by the eye. That's deep, y'all didn't catch that.
Speaker 2: He did't even care about The eye got my mind?
Speaker 1: Can I have to go all the way in?
Speaker 3: But see this is go to the thing where Mike
Speaker 3: was talking about. You have to excuse this because they kid,
Speaker 3: because their kids exactly, that's what That's what the kid
Speaker 3: When you look at that. The only thing that didn't
Speaker 3: irritate me about it was like, okay, you're the kid.
Speaker 3: So he would have tried this done opened the.
Speaker 2: Door all the more.
Speaker 1: What you mean he just he slightly opened it, leaned
Speaker 1: in and held the door with his foot. He could
Speaker 1: have just opened the door.
Speaker 2: There was no reason for him to go all the
Speaker 2: way inside that fucking room.
Speaker 3: What's that thing of the outside. They wouldn't have got
Speaker 3: fitted for real. I'm never am I going to think
Speaker 3: hit this button walking?
Speaker 1: But the main question, because it messed them up, the
Speaker 1: main the question I had. And you can tell once
Speaker 1: he started putting the stuff in, like, oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna get him. But did the gray haired synth set
Speaker 1: this up? He seen it happen.
Speaker 2: He saw it happened.
Speaker 1: He set it up, so you didn't think he knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna go in there and do something stupid.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: He probably thought there was a possibility of it because
Speaker 3: I think he wanted complete chaos. I think he was
Speaker 3: trying to sabotage everything, honestly.
Speaker 1: Because he said make sure you follow protocols or whatever something.
Speaker 1: However he said protocols and not see away, so stupid.
Speaker 1: It was stupid. Yeah, this was this. I hated this.
Speaker 2: I was like, why did he do that? But then
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, well, they're kids, so that's the only
Speaker 2: way to explain it away. It's like, man, this is such.
Speaker 1: Bad, scared of the fuck.
Speaker 2: But it's like, how would it know that that would
Speaker 2: even happen? Like it bangs in the door and it
Speaker 2: just knows that he's gonna fall.
Speaker 1: Why did it even fall over?
Speaker 2: I could see being sled, but you just fought who
Speaker 2: falls over and get startled? When have you ever been
Speaker 2: so scared that you just fall over? Here already lost
Speaker 2: rabbits because he was being over. But I think they
Speaker 2: were trying to speak to the intelligence of that thing.
Speaker 2: They were they were They're like, oh I am so intelligent.
Speaker 2: I benefy startle him. He'll fall over and then the
Speaker 2: little things will eat him. But why who cares? Who cares?
Speaker 1: What does this?
Speaker 3: Because it leads to me getting out when he was
Speaker 3: still walked up. I think I think if he got
Speaker 3: he knew it, he would get out if it was chaos. Eventually, Man,
Speaker 3: this is this is this is super bail all right?
Speaker 2: So this takes us too. Oh no, There's just one
Speaker 2: more thing that happens. After disconnecting Marty's tracker Arthur Arthur.
Speaker 2: Arthur is persuaded by Slightly to go into the lab,
Speaker 2: where he's attacked by the face Hugger, which I'm sure
Speaker 2: we all saw coming. It takes us into.
Speaker 1: Episode seven, which is why they had to fire him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Marcie decides that it's time for them to leave,
Speaker 2: which I would love for somebody to explain what the
Speaker 2: turning point was from Marcie to where she's like, I'm
Speaker 2: ready to go. It was NIBBs being reprogrammed. Who fucking cares.
Speaker 2: Nibs was traumatized by what happened, and they reset her.
Speaker 2: It's not like they took all of her memories. They
Speaker 2: just reset her back to before this the traumatizing shit happened.
Speaker 1: Didn't like the fact that you were tampering.
Speaker 2: With the mon You're a fucking machine.
Speaker 1: Ho.
Speaker 3: But the go to what you were saying about West
Speaker 3: World though, Like it was the same thing with these being.
Speaker 3: These things think that they're like transient beings and not,
Speaker 3: but they're struggling with being.
Speaker 2: But it seems like they did Nibs a favor by
Speaker 2: taking away the trauma. But right, she's clearly she was insane,
Speaker 2: but it's like space age therapist bike.
Speaker 3: She wanted the experiences to be genuine, almost like.
Speaker 2: Humans, so so much the point where I'm going to
Speaker 2: release as any more from habit kill everybody. It's fucking stupid,
Speaker 2: that well stupid.
Speaker 1: But I think the difference I have with this, I
Speaker 1: get the West World comparess, is that these are actually
Speaker 1: human consciousness and you know bodies that don't die, whereas
Speaker 1: those are actually real robots. Good point.
Speaker 2: So at some point when her brain develops more, I
Speaker 2: wonder she's gonna look back on this and be like, Damn,
Speaker 2: that was really fucked up. I had all those people
Speaker 2: killed because I was angry that they reprogrammed Nibs. That
Speaker 2: was really fucked up that I did. And they weren't
Speaker 2: treating them like a humor because she's not a human.
Speaker 1: She's property at this point, right, which is why I'm
Speaker 1: rethinking that's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of So slightly convinces me to help him get Arthur
Speaker 2: to the beach, and once they get there, the Zeno
Speaker 2: busts out of his chest and runs off down the street.
Speaker 2: So then they go meet up with Tomorrow and they
Speaker 2: don't have this z anomorphs. Tomorrow captures them. But then
Speaker 2: we go to Cavalier and he discovers how smart the
Speaker 2: eyeball creature is. And then we see Joe, Marcy and
Speaker 2: NIBBs get held up by the Utawni stormtroopers on the boat.
Speaker 2: Was it cool when Marcy called the xenomorph to kill
Speaker 2: the troopers Rod and she said sick?
Speaker 1: Was that cool?
Speaker 2: And there's any morph, ran out of ran out of
Speaker 2: the bot, ran out of the woods, and started killing people.
Speaker 4: It was cool because I mean, like I said, she
Speaker 4: they set it up earlier, and yeah, I thought it
Speaker 4: was cool that she was actually able to control the.
Speaker 2: Z or it looked at her as the mother or
Speaker 2: something either one of y'all. Y'all think this was cool.
Speaker 2: And it came up and started killing them when they
Speaker 2: were in the little little garden of.
Speaker 1: Eden, and I like, how to disturb her? Brother?
Speaker 2: Look, I would be too, I'd be like, God, I
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm in the shitty ass show.
Speaker 1: This sucks. Oh my god, they're writing so bad here.
Speaker 1: I thought it was obvious.
Speaker 3: I thought the moment that she was able to start
Speaker 3: communicating with my figure, that she was gonna be able
Speaker 3: to use it to her advantage.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought she kind of mentioned it before him. We
Speaker 4: might be able to use them to help us or
Speaker 4: something like that. I just want to know why my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. So Kurse shows up and he
Speaker 2: captures the Utani troops, but Joe, Nibs, and Marcia are
Speaker 2: held up on a boat by the other troopers. Nibs
Speaker 2: bugs out and kills this one dude by ripping off
Speaker 2: his face, but the fight ends with Joe shooting nibs.
Speaker 2: End of the episode, Spike, where you like, damn, this
Speaker 2: is crazy.
Speaker 1: What what did you're throut?
Speaker 2: You just thought what I did? Why are you asking
Speaker 2: stupid questions? I don't know why he was conflicted.
Speaker 3: You was trying to get her out, and now you
Speaker 3: like bitching up show after you've seen somebody's face get
Speaker 3: ripped off, and it's like we got the power, Like
Speaker 3: you chose the wrong team, like she was saying, I
Speaker 3: think those were also his friends, ye friends, and fuck
Speaker 3: them out. He's trying to get off the island with
Speaker 3: his sister so much. But that's my point that I
Speaker 3: do have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: That's my there.
Speaker 3: There was going to be conflict at some point if
Speaker 3: you're trying to sneak your sister off of this island
Speaker 3: with your friends who are trying to keep her on
Speaker 3: the island. So now you got a problem with sneaking
Speaker 3: your sister off the island because it seems like you
Speaker 3: would have new your friends was gonna try to stop you.
Speaker 1: They troops. You know. I liked it because they were
Speaker 1: now going to the dark side. And I was. I
Speaker 1: was also like, well, ship, I don't think nib still
Speaker 1: got from issues. I see you, I see you. That
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary, bro, Yeah, like she got some issues and
Speaker 1: unfair fight.
Speaker 3: But they told us she had issues though, so we
Speaker 3: see that's another thing they thought they erased them.
Speaker 2: They did not How you don't have any ability to
Speaker 2: stop these things?
Speaker 1: How controls in place?
Speaker 2: But that doesn't really make a lot of sense for
Speaker 2: kid Cavalier to be this child prodigy. He's so smart
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a way to shut them.
Speaker 1: That is stupid.
Speaker 2: It's super stupid. You created what five six of these things?
Speaker 2: What happens if they turn on you?
Speaker 3: They could haved like a verbal like command or something
Speaker 3: to make them stop.
Speaker 2: Just like how she well we'll get to the next episode,
Speaker 2: but just like how she's able to stop the one thing.
Speaker 2: Why do they not have something? It's dumb, dude, it's dumb.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Episode eight, last episode, guys, the hybrids are
Speaker 2: all imprisoned in a cell with Joe and Marrow in
Speaker 2: prison in another cell, but Marcia uses their powers to
Speaker 2: shut down the cameras and open the cell door, Which
Speaker 2: why didn't someone know that she could do this to
Speaker 2: the point where they'd be like, this probably isn't gonna help.
Speaker 3: That's what they said. Though they said this, they probably
Speaker 3: won't hold him for long.
Speaker 2: For long it shouln't have hold him for five minutes.
Speaker 2: But whatever, What did you think about the showdown with
Speaker 2: boy Cavalier with the whole reveal of what happened with
Speaker 2: him and all that.
Speaker 1: Oh, when he gave her that whole monologue about his dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I do have a question. I'll come after that later.
Speaker 1: But he was sitting there talking.
Speaker 2: Man, he was She was like, I'm like, and the
Speaker 2: hold time, I'm thinking she just bro He was like,
Speaker 2: he should have known that too. I don't know why
Speaker 2: he didn't know that.
Speaker 1: He knew that, But why did he come with one?
Speaker 1: He had to know, he was. She was scared when
Speaker 1: that door opened. He was scared. He had to know
Speaker 1: that she could do that. See.
Speaker 3: I think he thought he was so smart and so
Speaker 3: evincing that he would be able to contain her. I
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna be He thought he was gonna
Speaker 3: be able to talk his way out of it. And
Speaker 3: when she opened that door, like he knew she could.
Speaker 3: I think he was working.
Speaker 1: Talking and manipulated all of them because he had the
Speaker 1: one that he said was his favorite, and that's how
Speaker 1: she was able to betray them. Kind of stay on board.
Speaker 1: Here's the question I have was was Cavalier human? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so he just acts like a child. He is
Speaker 3: a child young. He's supposed to be super young.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be like probably fourteen or something. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they ever really said his name. I
Speaker 2: think he's like a teenager.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was just a twenty some year old.
Speaker 1: I don't know he was that young.
Speaker 2: You thought he had that Benjamin button.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was just young looking.
Speaker 2: No, he's supposed that's why they call him kid Cavalier.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be a kid.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, because that's why he annoyed me. But
Speaker 1: and then he ran off doing Hide go Seek.
Speaker 2: See okay, Yeah, Like this part could have worked because
Speaker 2: I thought the whole interesting thing about I built a scinth.
Speaker 2: In the scinth I had to kill my abusive father.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, wow, that could have gone somewhere.
Speaker 2: But yeah, when she opened the thing and then he
Speaker 2: just ran off and he was smiling and shit, I
Speaker 2: was like all right, what am I watching? What the
Speaker 2: fuck am I watching?
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, you can't beat any of them.
Speaker 2: No, but him running away giggling, I was like, why
Speaker 2: is he smiling like this?
Speaker 1: Exactly because you have one no protocols in place to
Speaker 1: stop them too. There's a xenomore if I don't even
Speaker 1: know if he know that controller, but that's running around.
Speaker 1: But he did know that. So there's a threat looming
Speaker 1: your security guard? Where are you? Even though you offered
Speaker 1: to pay them a million dollars? Are they gonna get
Speaker 1: there in time to help save you? Like you're you're
Speaker 1: in trouble? Well, he knew his scent was going after
Speaker 1: the brother brother. He was going to try to use
Speaker 1: the brother's leverage.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, well that's pretty stupid.
Speaker 1: But not really work up to this point.
Speaker 3: Wash wasn't he giggling because he had that idea though, Yeah,
Speaker 3: of putting an eyeball on the brother or something, and.
Speaker 1: He thought he could get Wendy to Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what made you think showing up with one
Speaker 2: bodyguard was going to work against a bunch of sense
Speaker 2: who have now turned on you. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: It was a version. It was what diversion. A diversion, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, to keep them off of the
Speaker 4: fact that he's setting us up with the brother.
Speaker 2: But why would I even have to go do a diversion.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't I just go do this with the brother
Speaker 2: and bring him along. It doesn't make any sense. It's
Speaker 2: just okay, all right. So what did y'all think about
Speaker 2: the fight? We're almost done, y'all. What do you think
Speaker 2: about the fight between Cursh and Marrow?
Speaker 1: I liked it. That was good.
Speaker 3: I liked the elevator scene. I thought the elevator scene
Speaker 3: where he was called on.
Speaker 1: That one got scared to get on the elevator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked it. But I thought they dynamic was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good fight. He messed and broke up
Speaker 1: his back yeah yeah, body slander, Yeah, took him out.
Speaker 1: He had paralyzed after that, body slim. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So after that, me and slightly show up and save
Speaker 2: the day by incapacitating both of them Borrow and Kersh.
Speaker 2: But what do you think about the showdown in the
Speaker 2: lab between Marcy, Joe, the Oscilis and Adam? And was
Speaker 2: Adam's reveal a shock.
Speaker 4: He had already said it. When he said it that
Speaker 4: he that he had him kill his father. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that must be Adam. Wait what what did that miss?
Speaker 4: Adam his assistant assistant was the synth that's the one
Speaker 4: that killed his father. He said he created him when
Speaker 4: he was younger, when.
Speaker 1: He Okay, yeah, okay, okay. That's how Wendy was able
Speaker 1: to control him because he's part of the whole network. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I mean Spikes was trying to work it out. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was the one that killed the father,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's what I assumed it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I assume the same thing. Okay. Did y'all think the
Speaker 1: parallels with his name was cool? Sure? Adam? Sure?
Speaker 2: I just cannot believe this. This is an adult, a
Speaker 2: serious adult, that wrote this ship.
Speaker 1: Well, why would you think this is clever? I thought
Speaker 1: that the parallel was fine between Adam A.
Speaker 2: T O. M. And Adam and Eve. That's clever.
Speaker 1: I thought that was clever. I thought I like I said,
Speaker 1: I thought the whole Lost Boys thing was fine.
Speaker 2: I think because you had an issue with that that
Speaker 2: didn't help this at all. No, because it's just like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a goddamn kid, why are you spoon feeding me?
Speaker 1: Ship?
Speaker 2: And then you're you're doing things that are just so corny.
Speaker 2: It's corny to me to be like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: my first scent that I built and I called it
Speaker 2: Adam A T O M. But if you know the Bible,
Speaker 2: there's also a D A M.
Speaker 1: Do you get it? You get it? Guy? It's like,
Speaker 1: are we still doing this? They probably doing it right
Speaker 1: now in the government, bro, project Adam.
Speaker 2: But is there is there someone as smart as kid
Speaker 2: Cavalier in the government.
Speaker 1: He probably got some Adams sitting around somewhere. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's as smart as but but again I
Speaker 1: think my shoe was Joe like, Bro, you so fucking
Speaker 1: stupid intullible, Like you're just gonna walk in there, just
Speaker 1: lamb to the slaughter.
Speaker 4: We went into the thing that was smart first and too,
Speaker 4: and then he noticed that he was trying to get
Speaker 4: it on the other side, so he got out.
Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. Yeah, I mean, that was
Speaker 1: the smart to jump in there and hide from it
Speaker 1: and that things.
Speaker 2: But was it cool to you that that that that
Speaker 2: they could kick this little eyeball thing across the room
Speaker 2: and let it hit the wall. It's still just like
Speaker 2: I'm strangers. I'm an eyeball.
Speaker 1: He got he got, he got this, he got thinking
Speaker 1: they got there after the second kid this crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go into the eyeand I'm going to somebody else.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna going find some water already did she was
Speaker 1: kicking the hell out of that thing, talking just qushed it.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought she was gonna do. That's what
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna do. Clearly it's evil. Why
Speaker 2: are you kicking it across the room like you're fucking
Speaker 2: Jackie Chan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is stupid, squishing him. It's over. It's a rap.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking eyeball.
Speaker 2: Did anybody else question why the little eyeball went and
Speaker 2: found Arthur on the beach.
Speaker 3: I think it was just looking for a host. He
Speaker 3: was just looking for some of the hosts.
Speaker 2: But there is a ship full of dead people. The
Speaker 2: Xenomorphe has been killing people left and right. Why did
Speaker 2: it go all the way to.
Speaker 1: The beach because I think that's a sewer and maybe
Speaker 1: it's just kind of that's where it let out. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it could control dead bodies like that.
Speaker 3: It took the dead dude over in ship, right, did
Speaker 3: you try to fight any.
Speaker 1: No, he was still alive. I don't remember them ever
Speaker 1: killing that guy. Yeah, I didn't know it could take
Speaker 1: over a dead body. I know it kills and takes
Speaker 1: over the host, but I thought they had to be
Speaker 1: alive first.
Speaker 2: Now we got alien versus zombies.
Speaker 1: Tight.
Speaker 2: I think they just wanted to keep that actor around
Speaker 2: because it made it made no sense. There's there's myriads
Speaker 2: of dead people, and it's like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna go to the beach and people are gonna run
Speaker 1: from that. You see someone walking with a gaping hole
Speaker 1: in your chest, you're kinda ask her you okay, clearly
Speaker 1: you're not.
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna play into his wife's too.
Speaker 1: Something to do is lie do what she sees that walking?
Speaker 1: You mere? Like, honey, what happened to you? Did you fall? Baby?
Speaker 2: All right, So we're at the end of the episode.
Speaker 2: The show ends with the Oculus going into Arthur while
Speaker 2: Marcy and the Lost Boys lock everyone up in a
Speaker 2: cage with the Xenomorph and a baby Xenomorph by their side.
Speaker 2: Whoever wants to go, I'll go.
Speaker 1: I'll star with you.
Speaker 2: Spike, was that's a cool ending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was serviceable.
Speaker 3: It wasn't great, I didn't think, but it didn't take
Speaker 3: away from my enjoyment of the series.
Speaker 1: I still liked it, but I kind of the ending
Speaker 1: was kind of.
Speaker 3: Predictable in a sense of where the bad and they
Speaker 3: turn bad and whatever it may be. Now you wait
Speaker 3: for season two and see like how they're gonna be
Speaker 3: as the evil people overall, and.
Speaker 1: Enjoyed it, although I think the I did have a
Speaker 1: question with the ending because I'm like, okay, so now
Speaker 1: we got there, the dynamics have changed, so they're the
Speaker 1: bad ones. Where the hell are they gonna fall in
Speaker 1: the rest of this universe? Now? I saw someone mention
Speaker 1: that in one of the movies. They said that there's
Speaker 1: a planet of sense somewhere. Okay, so I guess that's
Speaker 1: the connection that's going to happen. So maybe they're building
Speaker 1: that in the world. Yeah, those are they're probably doing that,
Speaker 1: I would imagine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rod, Yeah, it was fine. Yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 4: I was a little annoyed because I'm like, Okay, I
Speaker 4: guess they got to keep this show going, so I
Speaker 4: wanted to see more of a conclusion versus like a
Speaker 4: continuation thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm here. I'm definitely here for a season
Speaker 1: two because I want to know. I need more background
Speaker 1: information about these creatures, the plans they came from, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I would love to know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how far can they take this though, if
Speaker 3: y'all saying it is just two years before.
Speaker 4: Because they can because they can expand the world and
Speaker 4: put this on a whole nother place that we haven't
Speaker 4: explored yet.
Speaker 2: They're doing that with Star Wars, now, got it?
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's yeah, So that's how it can make
Speaker 4: this makes sense as to why certain please, uh, what'd
Speaker 4: you say?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: I feel like with Star Wars they keep expanding.
Speaker 2: The especially the Mandalorian world with Grogu and all that,
Speaker 2: because we hadn't seen him before, so that they're keeping
Speaker 2: y'all saw that coming on the movie trailers out looks
Speaker 2: like shit, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: But overall, I still enjoyed the series. I I there's
Speaker 1: some issues, of course, I not to the point where
Speaker 1: it adoyed me to the point where you just hate
Speaker 1: the series. But I did not like the Peter Pants
Speaker 1: stuff of either. It just was I just didn't understand.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got with it. I just it was
Speaker 1: unnecessary because I like, why do you keep talking about
Speaker 1: this damn shit? So I didn't feel like that was
Speaker 1: needed or clever or or cute. It's like, why why
Speaker 1: we still going back to these old stories, these old
Speaker 1: deep stories stories? Bro Okay, It's just like, but we're
Speaker 1: in space in the future and they just won't let
Speaker 1: Peter Pan, Moby Dick and all the shit go. I
Speaker 1: just don't get it.
Speaker 2: Just thousands of years into the future and these motherfuckers
Speaker 2: are still making an entire metaphor about fucking Peter Pan.
Speaker 1: And it's not even really about Peter Pan.
Speaker 2: It's more so about the fact that you think we're
Speaker 2: so dumb that you keep needing to keep bringing it up.
Speaker 2: It's like, we get it. You don't have to keep
Speaker 2: reminding us that this is about Peter Pan.
Speaker 1: It's a narration, damn there.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's the parallel of wanting to live forever,
Speaker 2: Like it makes sense rod you explaining what it's about
Speaker 2: doesn't help because I already know that that's on the point.
Speaker 2: It's like, we're smart enough to get this. They don't
Speaker 2: have to keep drilling it in. Like you probably got
Speaker 2: that narrative by episode two, So why in episode three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: in eight do I have to keep reminding us.
Speaker 1: That's That's where I got annoyed. It didn't ruin it
Speaker 1: for me the way it did for my question I have.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's because people Peter Pan is probably
Speaker 1: one of the lost ones that they don't reference it
Speaker 1: as much as they used to. Who they just move?
Speaker 2: I think that Peter Pan is one of the most
Speaker 2: known stories of all time. So them doing this, it
Speaker 2: was like, well, why are you doing this? Because we again,
Speaker 2: we we already know this story, and this metaphor isn't deep.
Speaker 2: It's so on the nose that it got to be annoying.
Speaker 2: Not nearly as annoying with ending this show with two
Speaker 2: pet xenomorphs. I could have thrown my fucking TV across
Speaker 2: the out about that, I could have thrown my TV
Speaker 2: across the room. Why are we doing this?
Speaker 1: This is another world?
Speaker 4: I think they're building another world of where the genomores
Speaker 4: are controlled.
Speaker 2: But these are xenomorphs. They're No, this doesn't work this way.
Speaker 2: They're pets now in this particular part of the alien world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: why they're still xenomorphs. Why would they come out and
Speaker 2: be like, all right, now we have this robot thing
Speaker 2: that can control them. The whole amazing thing about the
Speaker 2: alien universe was these xenomorphs. You think they're brainless until
Speaker 2: you realize what they're doing. They're like, they're like worker bees,
Speaker 2: taking things back to the queen to service the queen.
Speaker 2: Now we have them servicing a fucking robot.
Speaker 4: Well, they seem, like y'all are alluding to with all
Speaker 4: the other alien movies, they seem damn near impossible just
Speaker 4: to defeat. So now we have a way to kind
Speaker 4: of maybe possible work towards defeating them.
Speaker 3: They haven't They're gonna have a movie where they fight
Speaker 3: against each other something.
Speaker 1: Oh, hell no, they can't do that.
Speaker 2: So much so that two years later, we still don't
Speaker 2: know how this whole thing works, to the point we're
Speaker 2: going to a planet and getting sucked u because we
Speaker 2: don't know how this works.
Speaker 1: Was the second is even more of the one that
Speaker 1: hashed out of Arthur's body?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's one that was rolled around on the
Speaker 2: one that cursed caught. Yes, yeah, y'all blew my mind,
Speaker 2: which is just two years before because that don't make sense.
Speaker 1: It's so dumb. So it makes sense if it's in
Speaker 1: a different part of the universe.
Speaker 2: But but they're on Earth and and at and during
Speaker 2: the second movie, Ripley goes back to Earth, does she yes?
Speaker 2: And then they send her back into space because remember
Speaker 2: by by the end of the first one, she's on
Speaker 2: her way back. Okay, they convince her to go back
Speaker 2: out there by using her her motherly whatever, they convince
Speaker 2: her to go back out there. None of this information
Speaker 2: is on Earth anymore. About Hey, there were genomorphs here,
Speaker 2: there's a robot that can talk to them, that can
Speaker 2: train them. None of this information is anywhere.
Speaker 1: Maybe that ship already out in space. Well they're still
Speaker 1: trying to figure that out.
Speaker 2: But at the third by the second movie, but I'm
Speaker 2: said the first movie, like, maybe that ship that ran
Speaker 2: into the Xeno warves is already out in space during
Speaker 2: this in the first movie, sure, in the second movie, no,
Speaker 2: because she comes back to Earth.
Speaker 1: It seems like they would know. And then the first one,
Speaker 1: remember that was what they call the things in Prometheus,
Speaker 1: the Engineers. The Engineers had that ship that was a
Speaker 1: completely different thing, which kind of maybe goes to Rodd's point,
Speaker 1: because that was a completely different ship with different aliens.
Speaker 4: Gotcha, Yeah, I think I don't think they know, like
Speaker 4: because it still is happening on this private island. Like,
Speaker 4: this is happening on a private island. People don't even
Speaker 4: know this is going on right now on this private island.
Speaker 4: There are multitudes of soldiers that have gone there and
Speaker 4: gotten murdered by a xenomorph on a beach.
Speaker 2: But they were so.
Speaker 4: They were soldiers of Utant. Oh well, they all are
Speaker 4: staying there. Remember this, like, oh well, this is the
Speaker 4: at the end of the day that all this information
Speaker 4: is on this island. It's remote island. No one knows
Speaker 4: about this island. You're on Earth, but nobody knows about
Speaker 4: this remote island. But they're not getting this information because
Speaker 4: remember they were saying, you, Tani knows it's there, her
Speaker 4: people know it's there. Utani is also also a trillionaire
Speaker 4: that has access to all of this.
Speaker 1: Then what exactly?
Speaker 2: Okay, so then she's the one their company is the
Speaker 2: one sending these ships out there. But at no point
Speaker 2: do they ever mention like, oh, yeah, there's a robot that.
Speaker 1: Can talk to them. They're going to have I don't
Speaker 1: think they know yet she you okay, forget. The only
Speaker 1: way I think this could make sense is that these
Speaker 1: are the only ones that are controlled, the ones that
Speaker 1: are on this island. That's it, the two xenomores, and
Speaker 1: there's no no because there's no queen, right, there's only
Speaker 1: one egg left exactly, there's no queen.
Speaker 2: So they have to explain to us at some point
Speaker 2: why Marcy can talk to them and control them.
Speaker 1: Maybe because they need a queen. Maybe they need a queen.
Speaker 1: The issue I have is is I get I could
Speaker 1: shoot some bell for her being able to control the
Speaker 1: one that came out of her brother, because it just
Speaker 1: came out, just saw her, and maybe it just bonded.
Speaker 1: The second one is the one I have an issue with.
Speaker 2: Then why didn't any of these motherfuckers come out and
Speaker 2: bond with Ripley when they busted out of people's chest.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going to go, because we have
Speaker 1: historical data to show that every time these motherfuckers are
Speaker 1: birth to what is supposed to be a mom is
Speaker 1: always tried to kill them.
Speaker 2: Yes, the first film, it comes out and it wipes
Speaker 2: out the entire crew, with the exception of Dallas if
Speaker 2: we go with the deleted scenes and all that, it
Speaker 2: wipes out the whole crew, with the exception of Dallas
Speaker 2: and Ripley. Why would it do that if we have
Speaker 2: this show that shows that it comes out and then
Speaker 2: looks at a woman, it's like, oh, you must be
Speaker 2: my queen.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna kill you. It's dumb. Yeah. I tried
Speaker 1: to kill Ripley, and it was somebody else that that
Speaker 1: that it tried to kill too. It was one of
Speaker 1: the other another movie where it tried to kill what
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the paternal parent. But in this one,
Speaker 1: it's just like I could just, you know, do some
Speaker 1: morse code and everything's cool. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well again, I'm glad y'all enjoyed the show.
Speaker 1: I like how she read the boy at the end.
Speaker 1: She's like, you just a little.
Speaker 2: Angry man, and he's smiling and giggling. Still, no, he
Speaker 2: wasn't smiling talk to me like that. He looked hurt
Speaker 2: when the show ended. He was always tied up, smiling, giggling.
Speaker 1: Now we rule is this. He is such a terrible
Speaker 1: But I liked it. I liked him. He annoyed me
Speaker 1: the whole show. I did not like him the whole show.
Speaker 1: It was just such a because it felt forced.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's how a teenager with his is
Speaker 3: he arrogant.
Speaker 1: It's super arrogant. I think that's how he would act. Tight.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm again. I'm glad y'all enjoyed it, all three
Speaker 2: of you. I thought this was really bad. I really
Speaker 2: wanted to love this show and it was a humongous disappointed.
Speaker 1: What that.
Speaker 2: You come around, but I will not come around. I
Speaker 2: will not come around.
Speaker 1: This is bad.
Speaker 2: This is bad writing, bad dialogue, It's stupid sea. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll watch season two because I want to
Speaker 2: see if they're gonna clean any this bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they're gonna clean this up. Well I don't.
Speaker 2: They should have. They shouldn't have made a mess that
Speaker 2: they have to clean up. But yeah, I'm done. I
Speaker 2: guess we'll see y'all later. I'm sure y'all all disagree
Speaker 2: with me, which is fine, But let me know if
Speaker 2: y'all have answers to any of the questions I asked.
Speaker 2: And uh, we'll see y'all next time.
Speaker 1: We out. Peace.