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Speaker 1: We're back. It is the start of December, and boy

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Speaker 1: is this going to be a critical critical month for

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Indianapolis Colts. I hope everybody had

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Speaker 1: a great Thanksgiving and their commutes were safe and sound.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: Doing all right? How about you? keV?

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Speaker 1: Not bad? Not bad?

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Speaker 2: I hope other people feel the same way as that

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Speaker 2: first day back after, you know, the four or five

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Speaker 2: day weekend is always a little sluggish.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like the Colds first quarter yesterday. Honestly, just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a slog. And I did think

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere at times got really lively inside of Lucas

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Speaker 1: Oil Stadium on Sunday, but the home team, for the

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Speaker 1: first time all the year, could not deliver. That is

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Speaker 1: now all three C. J. Stroud games inside of Lucas

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Speaker 1: Ohl Stadium. He's come away victorious.

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Speaker 2: Has he lost in his career there?

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Speaker 1: In coology? And I know I was going to say

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Speaker 1: the big ten championship history for Ohio State. I'm always

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Speaker 1: kind of like nervous to to say, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like at times they don't make it to that game

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Speaker 1: without Michigan. But I don't know, I'm sure Stroud has

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Speaker 1: played in there in his collegiate days, but in his

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Speaker 1: NFL days he's three, you know, and the AFC South

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Speaker 1: lead is gone. And we just talked about the urgency

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Speaker 1: of this game on both pods last week, Eddie. It

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Speaker 1: was just massive, and you know you're no longer playing

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We we mentioned the percentages involved in these two weeks

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Speaker 1: you win both games, about fifty if you split, and

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Speaker 1: less than twenty percent to win the division if you

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Speaker 1: lose both. So right now the other two numbers are

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Speaker 1: in play, the fifty percent or the whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent. And if you look at the standings, you know,

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Speaker 1: if the playoffs started today, you'd be the sixth seed,

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Speaker 1: and eight, nine, and ten have all beaten you. Yep,

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Speaker 1: and those are the first three teams obviously out. So

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Speaker 1: that is just where this thing can really start to

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Speaker 1: snowball in a hurry for you here, you know, just

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Speaker 1: big picture, before we get into what I liked, what

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Speaker 1: I didn't like. I think what is extra frustratating about

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Speaker 1: the loss from yesterday. We'll also get to the officiating,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you guys know, I'm not a

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Speaker 1: sit here and ignore elephants in the room. So we'll

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Speaker 1: address that here in a few But you know, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: I said this to people quite often over Thanksgiving. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I do. The only really big concern I have I

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Speaker 1: think I went twenty sixteen. I think it was was

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Speaker 1: my prediction the other way, or maybe twenty three to

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Speaker 1: O'Neil Hunter making the game changing play. Obviously, Anderson Junior

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Speaker 1: made his impact on the game. But if you would

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Speaker 1: have told me walking into Lucasow Stadium on Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would be sacked one time in this game,

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Speaker 1: that drive ended in a punt and not, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's even more kind of surprising to me that the

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Speaker 1: really tough slighting for Jonathan Taylor. I think it was

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Speaker 1: you know when they needed to make timely plays they

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Speaker 1: made him. And your defense has been on the field

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Speaker 1: for way too long. It's like one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: And right now, if you can make Daniel Jones in

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Speaker 1: this passing offense have to deliver, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: are proven capable of that right now. It's a big drops.

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Speaker 1: You can't ignore those drops. I mean the downs drop

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Speaker 1: It's such a roller coaster, which I'm used to him

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Speaker 1: being very steady. For you there started and ended with drop.

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Speaker 1: officiating aspect, just your overall thoughts, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: I felt like this was, you know, the first game

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Speaker 2: the same way, but it wasn't the self inflicted gunshot

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Speaker 2: wounds that got you yesterday in I still think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's some people that will view this as

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Speaker 2: an optimistic point of view, like, hey, you know, this

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Speaker 2: team just has to learn how to win these games, because,

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Speaker 2: let's face it, Daniel Jones hasn't been in a lot

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Speaker 2: of these situations in his career just because the Giants

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Speaker 2: you just have to learn how to make some of

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Speaker 2: learn how to make some plays at the end of

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Speaker 2: all games to get off the field. They got to

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Speaker 2: you know, prevent touchdowns and hold them to field goals

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Speaker 2: or you're playing from behind. So all those things are

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Speaker 2: learning opportunities for this team. And I go back to

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Speaker 2: I was it Jerarius Ward after the the loss or yeah,

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Speaker 2: we needed this, and like, I feel like these last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there is definitely an element, and you know,

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Speaker 1: an element Eddie that you are an eight and four

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any denying that. The injury luck I

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Speaker 1: Eddie let's hit on the officiating. You know, when I

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Speaker 1: see the NFL do, Because there's all this conversation about

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Speaker 1: on Sunday for it. I don't get why delay of

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Speaker 1: that is not a reviewable call. And b why is

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Speaker 1: mean horn it up if you have to. You know,

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Speaker 1: how about a little buzzer on all the officials or

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Speaker 1: just the head official if you need to, and when

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Speaker 1: simply blow the play dead and five yard penalty. You

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Speaker 1: I maybe because there's tens of a second aren't on

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Speaker 2: So that is.

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Speaker 1: Where I would start. You know, when you see the

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Speaker 1: The two minutal report happens the day after the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they go back and watch the entirety of the

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Speaker 1: What they got right, yep, what they got wrong, and

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Speaker 1: then they say that in the report. It's a very

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Speaker 1: I am all for transparency. I don't call this transparency

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Speaker 1: will you ask if delay of game is reviewable. I'm

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Speaker 1: again I'm pretty sure Joel, like I think he just

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Speaker 1: not like Joel can ask follow ups necessarily. It is

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Speaker 1: very different from a you know, back and forth press

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Speaker 1: pool report on the Kenny Moore passing interference penalty, all

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Speaker 2: The route on his hand. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it doesn't even say that much detail. Like,

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Speaker 1: all it says is grab at top of route. That's

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Speaker 1: what the official saw. Well again in the twenty minute

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Speaker 1: Someone said, how about you just shoot a laser beam

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Speaker 1: I'm largely a person that has accepted in accuracy in officiating.

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Speaker 1: the Colts internally know that they got away with Crystal

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Speaker 1: Like it Just so, I'm not one that is gonna

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Speaker 2: But the Cults losing, we always start with what you

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Speaker 2: did not like. We'll start here because it happened first

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Speaker 2: in the game. You've got the Sauce Gardner cap strain.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, yeah, I mean, obviously, the A word

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Speaker 1: just yeah, calf strain. You know what best case scenario

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Speaker 2: no interest in tackling. Like the Woody Marks play. You

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Speaker 2: And Texas, the Houston Texans can go on and you know,

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Speaker 2: Just looks. It's just like I'm just gonna FLI my

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Speaker 1: Which I'd rather have that than the yell. Well, as

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Speaker 1: I think he's even Yeah, so I know some further

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Speaker 2: Let's get into what else that you did not like

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Speaker 1: I'm getting some see what Hilton vibes from. You know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know, he's five for ninety eight, made several big plays,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scary. It's scary numbers because I don't feel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have mentioned kicker I Eddie. I was

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Speaker 1: So that means to steal the Chris Ballard phrase, you

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Speaker 1: problem again, and this one is not injury related, of course,

435
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you have to do the tryout

436
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Speaker 1: thing like backup kicker. I get the bars low and

437
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: I lower, I should say, but the bar should still

438
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: be the extra point layup.

439
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

440
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: If Bajie was just doing that and change stack and

441
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: had to go for every you know whatever, third and

442
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: eight from the thirty eight yard line, fine, fourth, third

443
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: and eight, sorry, fourth and eight. That's part of life

444
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: when you have to go to a backup kicker, but

445
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: to have the missed extra points. And that's why I

446
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: asked it Matt Gay thing in all seriousnes because Matt

447
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: Gaate didn't miss extra points. Remember last year, Matt Gay

448
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: did not miss a kick inside of fifty yards for you.

449
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: He just missed all the north of fifty. He bricked

450
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: all the threes, he made every mid range jumper, and

451
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: he made every foul shot and then he made every

452
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: layup for you. So yeah, and think about the impact

453
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Speaker 1: of yesterday.

454
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,239
Speaker 2: Man.

455
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: If you make that extra point, then you just treat

456
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: so many of future drives differently from that. So I

457
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I get a weird feeling like the Colts

458
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: urgency about this city situation is not at the level

459
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: that I clearly have it. But like mist extra points, man,

460
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 1: people do not miss them.

461
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: I mean it ended up at the end, costing you

462
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 2: a chance to make it a tie game to go

463
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Speaker 2: to overtime. So yeah, I have two other things I

464
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: want to bring up to see your thoughts on it,

465
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 2: keV before we get into what you did. Like, how

466
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: about the fourth and one? You need a couple of inches,

467
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: you go, Daniel. Now, we've seen a lot of teams

468
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: do this recently. They're taking their tight end or their

469
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: full back if they have a fullback. The Colt stew

470
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: it with Tyler Warren botches the snap right between the wickets.

471
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: Jonath Taylor has nowhere to go pretty much after he

472
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: picks up the loose ball thrown over on Downs. I

473
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: said at the time, and I still stand by it,

474
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: I would have kick it and took the points there. Really, yes,

475
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: with the way that your offense had been operating prior

476
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: to that, you needed to take advantage of every possible

477
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: moment to get points rather than trying to risk it

478
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: to get that touchdown. Understanding it's a couple inches. You're like, hey,

479
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: if you feel like you have the you know, your

480
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: old lines, you know doing a great job blocking up front,

481
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: go for it. I get it. But when you're going

482
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 2: up against the defense like that, with the team who

483
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: has struggled offensively, with C. J. Stroud at least quarterbacking them,

484
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: I just felt like it was a time where you

485
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: needed to get points on the board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, you know, fourth down In terms of

487
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the aggression, I'm not like, hey, fourth and two is

488
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: fourth and three's you're always go, go go in those

489
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: situations like I think Stikeen mostly is, I would say

490
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: fourth and inches, though I'm probably always team go. Now again,

491
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: there's you know, if you're whatever up seven with two

492
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: minutes ago in the game and you're trying to stretch

493
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: it to two scores, obviously you would kick it then,

494
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: you know. I see, I've heard from a lot of

495
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: people that Chang Siking is an idiot. Why is he

496
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: getting too cute? Blah blah blah. So let's I guess

497
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: focus on this play for a second. First off, Daniel Jones'

498
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: injury is why the Colts didn't run the QB snake.

499
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: I made mentioned it last week on the pot because

500
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: I was like, there were so many of those thirty ones,

501
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: fourth and ones last week, and it gets Kansas City

502
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: where you felt like, all right, we'll just go to

503
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback sneak because nobody had been able to stop

504
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones and instead it was always a slow

505
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: developing run with Jonathan Taylor and they got stuffed.

506
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Speaker 1: Exactly now what we have seen in recent years, particularly

507
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: in the college world and also in the NFL world.

508
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: Hell Houston did it several times. We are seeing the

509
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: tight end sneak. Yep, you know, Tyler Warren did it

510
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: frankly at Penn State. Oh boy, Iron Eagle JJ Watt

511
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: again for the Colts coming up on the third time

512
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: this year, right, Yeah, they're trying to.

513
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: Do a lot of it.

514
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: You're surprised Colts are favored in that game. A little

515
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: bit slight favorite opened or was going to open up

516
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Speaker 1: at three, but I think it's sounded like one and

517
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Speaker 1: a half. I have no issue with the play call, none,

518
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: zero issue whatsoever with the play call. Again, we get

519
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: into this mode with coaches gms all the time. Everything

520
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: Chris ballor does stinks or is great. Everything Shane Sichin

521
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: does stinks or is great? Can we not identify these

522
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: situations isolated mm hmm and not have to just group

523
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: everything together? And do you know who that person is?

524
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: That to me is just seems like such a logical thinking,

525
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: but doesn't happen here. The blame to me just goes

526
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Speaker 1: from a mis execution on the snap. I mean, BORDERLINI

527
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: and Warren clearly does a screw up point blank. Okay,

528
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: Jones can't QB sneak what's your best option?

529
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: Now?

530
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Do you give it to tailor? Well, giving it to tailor,

531
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna sell out on that alat of Kansas

532
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: City last week. It's not necessarily guarantee. I think later

533
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: in the game they ran that Taylor kind of kind

534
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: of like a little and not end around a little

535
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: sweep off off tackle ended up getting it there. You

536
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: could do that, but again that's not a guarantee. To me.

537
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: My general thought in short yardage in today's football is

538
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: I would sneak it, push, push it every single time

539
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: your percent. Like what the Cults did to Houston late

540
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: in the game is a miracle that they stop them. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: I mean that is insane.

542
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: That Galmore blew up both of them.

543
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Galamore, I thought Grover's in there. I thought epicom was

544
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: in there as well. But yeah, Gallimore was at the

545
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: center of so much of that. Like that stuff is

546
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: just a miracle. But my team right now, I'd be

547
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: doing it every single time. So to me, that is

548
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: not too I mean, oh, he brought Warren in motion,

549
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think the initial thought there is, Hey,

550
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: by putting Jones and Taylor in the backfield, they're going

551
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: to think that we we motion warn a lot. They're

552
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: not going to think Warren's necessarily going to stop under center,

553
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: they can't pinch their defensive line, and that that that quickly.

554
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I got zero issue with it. Zero shit. Now again,

555
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: big picture was stiking. You lost a monumental home game,

556
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: good versus good. They're good, beat your good, their defense

557
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: beat your offense. So like you could have stiching issues

558
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: obviously with the game itself, But on that play call

559
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: in particular, Eddie No.

560
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: And then here's a very I don't know, it's very

561
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: nitpicky of me, but I also think it's very, very,

562
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: very underrated. On that drive where the Colts turned it

563
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: over nouns in the fourth quarter, I was in the moment,

564
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: I was livid at the fact that they were so

565
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 2: content with letting the clock run down to the two

566
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: minute warning, and it came back, honestly to bite them

567
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: in the butt a little bit, just because of the

568
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: fact that you don't run a play before that it

569
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: would have been your second down play instead, you have

570
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: to run three plays after the two minute warning. You

571
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: could have used that extra time on the back half

572
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: of that two minute warning to kind of save yourself

573
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: to maybe get the ball again, and it ended up

574
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: costing the Colts in the long run, because I always

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: think when you're the losing team and you're driving, I

576
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: think it's the worst possible scenario to let that clock

577
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: tick all the way down to the two minute warning

578
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: like they did. Because the clock is your friend. You

579
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: need as much time of it as you can, not

580
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: the least amount of time as possible. And I get

581
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: you still have all three timeouts, but I still feel

582
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: like there was two thirty six left when Jonathan Taylor

583
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: on that first down play ended, you let the entire

584
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: clock drain out you get to the two minute warning.

585
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: I just I just don't like that, Like that's just

586
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: me as that's my preference, But I don't know, what

587
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: do you think about that high situation?

588
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting. I might need to go back

589
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: and watch it. I definitely didn't have that thought during

590
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: the game. I don't have that big of a grit

591
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: on it, to be honest with you, but I definitely

592
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: hear you out and like where you're coming from. You know,

593
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: there's certainly a push and pull there, and we've seen

594
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: stichen he is much more prone to I don't want

595
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: to give the team another chance.

596
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: You know.

597
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City followed a very similar script last week against Indianapolis.

598
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, should we score here at the end of regulation?

599
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, it was one of those kind of awkward

600
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: moments there that you ran into. You know, is there

601
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of defensive fear if you give the

602
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: ball back to Stroud? You know, fair Baron has made

603
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: long field goals in his career for game winners. You

604
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: know part of that is there. I guess I'm just

605
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: more upset that what he Mark's ran over ran the

606
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: second and long there ice the game. But I can

607
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: listen to it, Eddie, but I probably don't agree with it.

608
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Let's get into what you did. Like Alec Pierce, the

609
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: Colts Knew wide receiver one.

610
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: He is the top white out on the team, period

611
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: period period period. He's the most threatening white out. He's

612
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: the most consistent white out. And the route tree is

613
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: becoming a thing. I mean, I've it became a little

614
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: bit of a running joke between me and some of

615
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: the media members. But you know, for a while there,

616
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: early on in Pierce's career, I would tweet out on

617
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Pierce Deep balls even if he didn't catch it, even

618
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: if it ended in passing appearance. Good things happen when

619
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: you target out with Pierce Deep, they just do like

620
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: more often than not, it's a good thing. A he

621
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: catches the football. How great was that throw and catch

622
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: by Jones to him on the touchdown? I mean that

623
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: man operates in claustrophobic areas. How great of a hide

624
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: and secret do you think he was back in the day,

625
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: just thriving in little small crevices. And then late in

626
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: the game, you know, you get the panic. You know,

627
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: you bring him in motion, you get Kaylen Bullock, the

628
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: safety running down on him. Now it's a safety one

629
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: on one and third and nineteen. You throw it up

630
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: and you obviously get the gift of the penalty there

631
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: when the ball was thrown out of bounds, but you

632
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: still are able to get that call there. He's just

633
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: he's dynamic. He's proven to be more consistent. And you know,

634
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks, Addie, I've said to you,

635
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: to me, Taylor needs X amount of touches and particular

636
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: X amount of touches in the second halves and Alec

637
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Pierce has turned into a player where he needs X

638
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: amount of touches. Yeah, because the threat of him going

639
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: deep has just turned the endbreaker with Pierce into almost

640
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: a layup. And right now from a second level guy,

641
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: that's the route that I trust the most, you know,

642
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: because he does have their respective safeties over the top there.

643
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: So I mean, hell, they put him back there to

644
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: defend the hail Mary. How great was that?

645
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

646
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: And he knocked that. It just we've we've had this

647
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: debate for several months and I've said to you since

648
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: the start of camp, if it comes down to a

649
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: Pierce or a Pittman, financially, it's Pierce. It's the one

650
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Speaker 1: that is harder to replace mm hm. And he's that

651
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Speaker 1: and he's younger, which you probably can't ignore that either.

652
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Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else you want to add in this area.

653
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Speaker 2: Are you ready for the Twitter questions?

654
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: No, I think that's for the most part. Yeah, Grover

655
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: Stewart a huge bat down there early on. I thought

656
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: that was a four point play. I thought the camp

657
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Binham interception was so needed. You know, obviously it's like, well, no,

658
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: no shit, Kevin. Turnovers are always needed, But like that

659
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: first quarter was such a slog And remember what what

660
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: happened to play before the Biden.

661
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: Pick was that the uh turnover on downs? Was it?

662
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Warren, Warren has the muff and so you know, again,

663
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Speaker 1: it just felt like Lucas Oil Stadium needed something there,

664
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Speaker 1: so outstanding, out standing, outstanding, I thought, in just a timely,

665
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: timely play there from Uh from buying them Twitter questions.

666
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Speaker 2: This pod will start with Creighton. As bad as the

667
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: loss this was, thanks refs, I do feel there is

668
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Speaker 2: some bright spots. Do you agree that going into next

669
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: week the offense did some did seem to catch some

670
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: rhythm throughout the game against Houston that we haven't seen

671
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: in the past two weeks, and maybe this is something

672
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: we can carry into next week against Jacksonville.

673
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of wild that when you look at it.

674
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Speaker 1: You obviously had that really slow start the two three

675
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: and outs, and then you punt it I think after

676
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: five plays on the third drive. If you look at

677
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: the next six drives, they got to Houston territory every

678
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Speaker 1: single drive, and they got at least two first downs

679
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: every single drive. Now, they obviously didn't finish off those drives. Yeah,

680
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: but still you did move it at a decent manner.

681
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Speaker 1: Now I think where I struggle to though, go full

682
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Speaker 1: on kind of oh wow. You know, there's reasons for massive,

683
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: massive optimism now going on the road for two straight.

684
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: And also I probably view Houston as the least fearsome

685
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Speaker 1: offense of the bunch. I just you know, on paper,

686
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: if you would have laid out the difficulty of these

687
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: final seven games coming back from the bye week, Kansas

688
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: City probably wouldn't put at the bottom of the list,

689
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: just given their history. But still record wise, they were

690
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: the only team at five hundred or worse. And then

691
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: a home game versus Houston you might put second on

692
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: that list, and lo and behold, you've lost both of them.

693
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Now again both games, I mean, you know, coin flip games.

694
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Speaker 1: If you make one play defensively in Kansas City on

695
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: the ninety yard drive. Perhaps you win that game if

696
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: you Josh Downs doesn't drop it on third and nine yesterday,

697
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: who knows what happens. But still they are losses. And

698
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: now the margin for air is really shrinking. You've added

699
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: another injury, and you're going on the road for two straight. Yeah,

700
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: and like, look, Jacksonville, well, as much as Jacksonville can

701
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: be rocking, it should be rocking on Sunday.

702
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: Yep.

703
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: That should be one of the more notable home games

704
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: they've had in quite a while. And Seattle might be

705
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Speaker 1: playing for the one seed coming up here in a

706
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: few weeks. So that I think is where I hear

707
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: you out Creton. And again the Colts didn't move it

708
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: a little bit better. Again, they didn't finish off those drives,

709
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: but they did definitely move it better. But still it's

710
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: just hard for me to reach for that glass half

711
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: full right now.

712
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Seattle's defense is no joke either, Like they

713
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: got dudes all over the field that make plays.

714
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike McDonald, I know Shane holds a really high

715
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Speaker 1: regard as well. Yeah, that's I mean, that's your toughest

716
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: game left.

717
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake is starting to believe this Colts team is

718
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: not much different than last year's. The Colts can beat

719
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: the weaker teams and lose consistently against teams with the

720
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: winning record. Offense is flat and the defense is on

721
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 2: the field too much? Is Jacob for reacting?

722
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah about the defense. I think it's like one hundred

723
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: and sixty some defensive snaps the last two weeks, which

724
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: is just wild, you know, Jake, I'll go back something

725
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: that we talked about about a month ago, Eddie. At

726
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: that point, the Colts had answered the questions presented to them.

727
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: But what I try to quickly point out, newer, harder

728
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: questions are about to be asked, and so far they

729
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: have not handled those well. Now, the beauty of the

730
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: NFL is you get five more chances to flip it.

731
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's a harder schedule left, but you get

732
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: five more opportunities, and three of them are in your division,

733
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Speaker 1: so you know that obviously is heavily, heavily into your control.

734
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Speaker 1: So that I think is a huge, huge question. You know,

735
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: if you want to point to early in the year,

736
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: did you surprise some people Daniel Jones a little bit?

737
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: And then you know, such a change, you know from

738
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: the defensive system. You know that surprise teams early on

739
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: in the year. Along with that that that scar That

740
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: probably is something that is true. But you know, these

741
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: questions are just more difficult, and so far you're not answered.

742
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: Here is a question I hadn't really thought of from Garrett.

743
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: Do you think the loss of DeForest Buckner has hurt

744
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: the offense as much as it hurt the defense. The

745
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: defense right now feels similar to what existed underneath Gus Bradley,

746
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: not allowing big plays but giving up long drives, hampering

747
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: the stamina of the defense and putting more pressure on

748
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: the offense. This team, all of a sudden feels way

749
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: too similar to teams of years past.

750
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Garrett, I think that's a really good point. You know,

751
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: time of obssession. It's not gospel by any means, but

752
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: I think it's something that is flipped. I mean, a

753
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: do you think back to the Kansas City game? Do

754
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: you think Buckner makes one of those third down stops?

755
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Hopefully if not, he's helping the other guys on the

756
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: edge to get home by having the attention on him, right.

757
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been the biggest problem I think in

758
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: the last two weeks is they just can't get any

759
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: sort of pressure on the quarterback.

760
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Speaker 1: I've said this before, but there is no more disappointing

761
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: aspect in the ballad Ara than the edge pass rush.

762
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: It's just it's unbelievable how unthreatening it is. Yeah, it's

763
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: just like engage the left tackle, you know, hug your

764
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: grandma on Thanksgiving and move on to the next play.

765
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: That's seemingly what it is. Every snaps alf of not

766
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: not to get two in the weeds. But we talked

767
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: about the Ashton Dulan injury last week. It felt like

768
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Houston was a first down or two better than you

769
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: and special teams yesterday. And again those are just little

770
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: hidden yardages in the twenty sixteen game, you know, six

771
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: yards here, seven yards there, four yards. It just adds up.

772
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: And so I thought they were a little better than

773
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: you yesterday in that area. But yeah, I think it's

774
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: a great point that Garrett brings. You know, in these

775
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: one possession games, Atlanta obviously went your way and then

776
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: and then the next two don't go your way. I

777
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I I do think Buckner's just pure presence could have

778
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: easily been the difference.

779
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, and it is.

780
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: I I think, you know, has it hurt the offense

781
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: as once the defense? It's all complimentary obviously. I I

782
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: can't like sit here and say, you know, blame the

783
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: offense for deforce Buckner's absence, but everything is largely tied together.

784
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: Colts are now three and four in one score games

785
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: in the year.

786
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: Is that right?

787
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: I think so if I remember correctly. You got obviously

788
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: lost his last two weeks in Houston, Kansas City, lost

789
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, and lost to Los Angeles. Yeah, Arizona, Denver

790
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: and mm hmm yep. Uh. That's something I guess monitor

791
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: down the stretch, just because when you get into playoffs, Moost,

792
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: these games are going to be decided by one score.

793
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 2: Two questions left one from Craig. What's most frustrating is

794
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: the game being dictated by the horrid refs. I feel

795
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: like this is happening more and more every week, to

796
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: the point it's not even worth watching. Give me a

797
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: reason for hope for the rest of the season, KB

798
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: The schedule was tough enough Lew alone, dealing with crappy

799
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: calls every week.

800
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Speaker 1: Where do you side on the you as a sports

801
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: fan and officiating in terms of what like do you

802
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: hate officials? Are you accepting of.

803
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: It in the middle Like in the middle like during

804
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: the game, I'm like, what the what the fure like,

805
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: how can you make that call? But it's at the

806
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: same time like I get it.

807
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why. I've largely accepted like human

808
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: error in sports when it comes to officials.

809
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: But I am never one to blame the officials for

810
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: a for a loss. Never.

811
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I I was really tested in

812
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: this manner the Notre Dame text A and M game

813
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. If you remember that game Atie

814
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: text A M can versus fourth and goal. I remember,

815
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: and there is as blatant of a holding penalty as

816
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: you could imagine. On Donovan Heinisch on that fourth and

817
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: goal opinion, it certainly is. And yeah, I just I

818
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I definitely was like what the you know,

819
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: bleep in the moment, But yeah, I just I don't know.

820
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: I woke up Sunday and I was frustrated. Then I

821
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: thought to myself, Yeah, there are probably a million other

822
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: things and why Notre Dame lost that game, including missed

823
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: extra point as fittingly as that sounds there, So again,

824
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people that think that's

825
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: a ludicrous thought from me, but I don't know. In

826
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Speaker 1: my fandom, I've just chosen to accept it. I will

827
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: agree with Craig thought. I thought the Chiefs game is

828
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: very poor officiating on both sides of it. And yesterday,

829
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Houston a lot of penalties early. When

830
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: did they end up happened? I don't know how the

831
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: penalty game even out in the end. But you know,

832
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: obviously I thought the Kenny Moore call was bad, and

833
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: I thought the delay of game was more of a

834
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: league wide issue. I don't get why the NFL doesn't

835
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: black and white it.

836
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: Up nine for eighty five for Houston, five for thirty

837
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: three for the Colts.

838
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: Gosh, it's another frustrating element of the game. They have

839
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: fifty two more yards of penalties in you mm hmm,

840
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: and you lose a one score game. So I don't know.

841
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts got away with one of crystal

842
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: mons in Arizona. I just I have chosen to accept that.

843
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Probably doesn't make it wrong or right, but that's how

844
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: I look at it. You know, it's officiating down. I

845
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I stayed up and watched that whole Denver

846
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: Washington game. There are some wild calls in that game. Wait,

847
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: you talk about Denver just playing with fire every week?

848
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: M m. Seemingly that defense makes big play after big play.

849
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: Reminds me of that Tennessee Titans team that finished first

850
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: in the AFC a few years ago with Helen Henry Yep, yep, yeah,

851
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: I just bound for a bad day in the playoffs, Daniels.

852
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: I guess the scenario A in a scenario B type question, Kevin, So,

853
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: I'll rattle both of these soft for YOUA scenario A

854
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: Colts continue to look mediocre but pull out two to

855
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: three wins and get into the playoffs as a division

856
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: winner that have optimism with the Forst Buckner, Saucegarter and

857
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: Ashton Doolan back as they host a playoff game and

858
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: make it to the divisional round. With anyone's guess of

859
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: what can happen after that Scenario B, the Colts continue

860
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: to putter out and lose three of their four final games,

861
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: blow the division, and miss the playoffs. This leads into

862
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: a nightmare offseason where everyone and things are up for debate.

863
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: Is Chris Ballin and Shane Styke and retained, does Jim

864
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Bob Cooter anddoor Lout and a Roumo leave who is

865
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: re signed? In terms of Daniel Jones, Braden Smith, Alec Peers,

866
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: Quitty pay Nick Cross, what happens with Anthony Richardson. Seems

867
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: like this sends the franchise and fans back down the

868
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 2: rabbit hole of pessimism and questioning the culture and state

869
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: of the team.

870
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: Oh boy, hum. Yeah, I don't know if I'm quite

871
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: ready for the old big picture, you know, state of

872
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: the union, if you will, But it is a question

873
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: that I get the month of Decembers here, and you

874
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: can't totally ignore it.

875
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: It's also a fascinating discussion, too.

876
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: Tremendous discussion. Yeah, I mean, trust me, means some of

877
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: the media members are having it yesterday up in the

878
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: in the presspect. I guess, just moreal thoughts on Daniel's

879
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: question before I kind of get into I think what

880
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: everybody really is curious about, you know right now, obviously

881
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: two would be the obvious choice or letter be here,

882
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: given how really they are. I'm still not sold on Jacksonville,

883
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: by the way. I know they lived off turnovers early

884
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: in the season. They've shown a little bit more here

885
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: as of late, but I'm not overly sold on Jacksonville.

886
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out, of course, coming up

887
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: this weekend. So you know, now the question becomes, you know,

888
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: how does Carli ers Gordon view it?

889
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: Is it because that Lean Cummens do.

890
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: I do think? I like Liam, I'm going a little

891
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: bit here and I guess if you start with Ballard Eddie,

892
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: the question largely revolves around this, does a season I

893
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: should say half season? Does a half season of really

894
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: quality football erase eight years of mediocrity before that? Like

895
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: that's largely the Ballad evaluation. Yeah, and again how much

896
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: of it do we do the post CB? You know,

897
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: pre CB, we've done the ADBC thing before. Half jokingly,

898
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: half serious with Ballard? Do you think the goalposts have

899
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: changed it all post Sauce Gardner trade? And I'm asking

900
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: that more for Macrli or Saint Gordon ask to it.

901
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, did that heighten the need and the urgency

902
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: for short short term? Also did it heighten the need

903
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: an urgency for her to say, hey, Chris, by allowing

904
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: you to do this trade, you're the guy. I mean,

905
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: he's doing a new contract right after twenty twenty six. Yeah,

906
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: after next year, you know, and then the bigger questions

907
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: is are you largely kicking the can down the road?

908
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: You know?

909
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a decent analogy within our market, Eddie,

910
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: But like, would you view this season at all? Because

911
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to group Ballad and Stiking together.

912
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: I think it's really difficult. It gets a little unfair

913
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: to Shane stikeing to do that. I just think three

914
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: years versus nine years is too in football years, that's

915
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: an insane amount of difference. But again, if I were

916
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: running the show, I'd probably want to group my GM

917
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: and head coach together because I think it's the best

918
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: thing for cohesive decision making and roster building and all

919
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: of that. But I guess to try to make like

920
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: a local analogy of it. If the Colts go three

921
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: and two down the stretch, make the playoffs, like right here,

922
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: right now, they are the sixth seed in the playoffs,

923
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: exactly how it looks right now. Let's say they losing

924
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: Round one? Are you bringing everybody back?

925
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Everybody is in regime or regime?

926
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Pillars quarterback, head coach GM.

927
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: Well, you've made your bed on the quarterback aspect.

928
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: So head coach gim I will.

929
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: Say, I think it's trending more toys with Daniel Jones

930
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: considering the last handful of weeks of the franchise tag

931
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: versus an extension, and Pierce will be the guy that

932
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: gets the contract versus the tag. Now, just because you

933
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 2: need to see I can hear you on that which

934
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: guy the quarterback is in terms of the head coach

935
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: and GM, I think, yes, you just got to bring

936
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: him back because as you noted and as we've known

937
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: a headful of times on the pod, Vallot's got the

938
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: one year left. Like, hey, you go into this year,

939
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: you know you're final million your deal. What are you

940
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: gonna do? That's the GM like, are you going to

941
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: try to make some magic happen and you know, to

942
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: help bolster whatever it is you need. Is it a

943
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: true you know, number one receiver. Is it somebody who

944
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: can consistently you know, threaten the quarterback? We'll see. Yeah.

945
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: And then you also get into I think, to a

946
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: couple of other different convents again to local and analogy

947
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. Would this be like Mike

948
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: Woodson making the tournament in year four as a nine seed. Yeah, probably,

949
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, is it just band aid on a bullet

950
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: hole that or do you really feel like there's been

951
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: tangible changes and it is going to be different? Yeah?

952
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: I think that's a really hard thing to be clear

953
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: to decide. But that's you know what Carli or say

954
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: Gordon's gonna have to look at. Are you just kicking

955
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: the can down the road? I guess it is how

956
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: you view because I feel like so many people view

957
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Colts and bringing everybody back is

958
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: do you make the playoffs or do you not like

959
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: that black and white? Which is kind of wild to

960
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: sit here in December first and be like, that's the

961
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: difference between the Colts going three and two or two

962
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: and three.

963
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: But if I told you that in training camp, what

964
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: would you have said?

965
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: I know, I I was never one that thought the

966
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: playoff appearance automatically meant everybody was back. I think how

967
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: it looks has to be factored in. Okay, And there's

968
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: part of me it's like, well, Daniel Jones looked better

969
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: than I thought so, and again, quarterback is important, very important,

970
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: so maybe there is a little bit more optimism. But

971
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: if you continue to lose games at the critical juncture

972
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: of the season like you have in recent years, is

973
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: that a negative knock, right? You know? On it? So,

974
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and let's say you go two and three down the

975
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: stretch and you just limp in or just miss, then

976
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: like the momentum for next year isn't maybe necessarily it's

977
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: not like the arrows pointing out. Whereas if you reverse

978
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: these four months of the season, baby, you would feel

979
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: differently about it. Like if Jones really struggled out of

980
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: the gate but then played great football down stretch and

981
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: you just didn't have enough time to get back in it,

982
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, how would that be viewed? So again, I

983
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: think it is a great debate. You could go in

984
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: a ton of different directions with it. It is. I'll

985
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: go back to kind of what I said at the

986
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: start of the answer.

987
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Though.

988
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: It is kind of wild that we have eight years

989
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: and three months of a Chris Boward resume and we're

990
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: sitting here saying it could come down to a two

991
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: and three or three and two closed to the month

992
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: of December. It's like one game is going to define

993
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: his nine years as a GM. That that is It's

994
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: it's like a wild sample size. Yeah, when you break

995
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: it down.

996
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: You say, this game on Sunday against Jacksonville's your season.

997
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I said it. I don't know if

998
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: I said to you on Monday's pod Eddie, and I

999
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: know we didn't do the Wednesday pod together. I just

1000
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: did it by myself. But said in the Winds, it

1001
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: felt like one of the biggest games of the p

1002
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: ssecond era. Oh yeah, because the first year you're still

1003
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: honeymoon phasing it. Oh yeah, No, obviously Week eighteen winning

1004
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: get in is huge, but like it's still the honeymoon

1005
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: phase of the Gardner Minshew last year. You could point

1006
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: to the Denver game, certainly, but again, that Denver game,

1007
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: you're on the road. You know, it wasn't like a

1008
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: lock that you would It's not a divisional game. It

1009
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: wasn't a lock that if you won that game, all

1010
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden everything, you know, Ducks were in a row,

1011
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: whereas this one was home game, divisional and now it's

1012
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: two in a row on the road.

1013
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1014
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean to your point, you know you

1015
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: can do you can obviously save a ton of face

1016
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: by getting it done here on Sunday in Jacksonville. All right, brother,

1017
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: should we do it on Wednesday.

1018
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 2: Well, are you talking about recording a pod as opposed

1019
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: to what else?

1020
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, Boy, nothing says the first Monday back

1021
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: from Thanksgiving like that? How about that ending by Eddie Garrison? Unbelievable?

1022
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 2: Uh? Giants Patriots tonight? Are you gonna watch?

1023
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I'll probably watched Patriots a little bit more,

1024
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: but then I'll then I'll flip over. Yeah, it's kind

1025
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: of wild. Then if New England wins, they they headed

1026
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: their bye week and going what twelve would they be?

1027
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: Twelve and two eleven and.

1028
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: Two eleven and two? Yeah? Wild man.

1029
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if anybody really cares about this,

1030
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: but I do think yesterday's loss probably ended your chances

1031
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: at a one seed, and if New England wins tonight,

1032
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: though probably definitely ended. So all right, he's at a Garrison'

1033
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: Kevin Bow and everybody have a great week. We'll talk

1034
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: to you Wednesday.