Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast.
Speaker 2: Podcast anniversary review Thirty years ago, nineteen ninety five, Martin
Speaker 2: Scorsese directed Casino. Casino stars Sam As Rostein is, Robert
Speaker 2: de Niro, Nicki Saren Toro is Joe Pessi, and Petty
Speaker 2: excuse me Nicki back played by Joe Pesci, and then
Speaker 2: Ginger McKenna, a charmer who's played by Sharing song. All right,
Speaker 2: go around the room. Did you guys rewatch Casino? You're
Speaker 2: doing it off memory and.
Speaker 1: That you did? Did?
Speaker 3: Hold up, Mike, gonna start with you. I rewatched it.
Speaker 3: I haven't watched the viol and yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: it's good, it's not.
Speaker 4: I mean that I need to watch over and over
Speaker 4: because once you know what happens, then it's kind of like,
Speaker 4: all right, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Oh you know this is one of them. Do you
Speaker 3: think that's one of those movies? Yeah? I don't ever
Speaker 3: have to rewatch this.
Speaker 4: Film because it's like the whole cool thing about the
Speaker 4: original time of watching it is like watching how the
Speaker 4: story breaks down and watching how Joe Pesci and Robert
Speaker 4: de Niro's.
Speaker 3: Characters kind of fall apart.
Speaker 4: Once you know all that, it's just like, all right,
Speaker 4: what am I watching here because honestly, I don't think
Speaker 4: that this is one of Scorsessi's best to me really,
Speaker 4: nah nah, I think a lot of it is killed
Speaker 4: by the terrible practical effects. Like it starts off with
Speaker 4: one of the worst effects of all time where he
Speaker 4: gets in the car and it skips and it's a
Speaker 4: dummy that's like this, it blows up.
Speaker 1: It's so bad, Mike. They're shooting people with no blood.
Speaker 3: Thank you. It makes no sense.
Speaker 4: Like when Joe Peshi grabs that one dude and shoots
Speaker 4: him in the head. It's like, bro, the bullet would
Speaker 4: have gone through his head and into your arm. What
Speaker 4: are we doing here?
Speaker 3: It's not it's a story stabbed him.
Speaker 5: They had when he killed that woman that were snitched,
Speaker 5: that Sue Peter Green. Joe walked into her house very similar,
Speaker 5: grabbed by the head, shot her two or three times.
Speaker 3: No blood comes out. It's weird. There's multi exactly what
Speaker 3: multiple like like nothing? Yeah, you know you're not gonna
Speaker 3: grab somebody.
Speaker 4: That's crazy as teeny wing as he is too. You
Speaker 4: really put somebody in the head lock and shooting him.
Speaker 4: It's not it's yeah, this is not the thing. That
Speaker 4: makes it movie be.
Speaker 3: Good as a story.
Speaker 4: The story is awesome, but the movie itself it's great.
Speaker 3: It really is a great film. But it's not something
Speaker 3: I need to watch over and over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it's that type of film. There
Speaker 6: are films like that where it's like, Okay, once I
Speaker 6: know it, what's the point of watching this again.
Speaker 3: I think for this one, you rewatch it just.
Speaker 6: For like the acting of the the characters or whatever,
Speaker 6: like the lines or whatever like, and then the story
Speaker 6: is good. I think the story as long as hell.
Speaker 6: So you mean I tried to go rewatch it. I
Speaker 6: just couldn't get through it in time for the review.
Speaker 6: I mean, but I've seen this movie like four or
Speaker 6: five times, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't
Speaker 6: want to watch the whole thing just to see how
Speaker 6: it felt. I just wasn't able to get through the
Speaker 6: whole thing. But the parts that I did see, watched
Speaker 6: about half of it. Yeah, it's like, yeah, this this
Speaker 6: still holds up. It still holds up. There was a
Speaker 6: little bit more of a lore for it back in
Speaker 6: the day for it for me like, oh that ships
Speaker 6: gangst you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, but as I'm older.
Speaker 6: It's like it don't hit quite the same, you know,
Speaker 6: so so yeah, but but nah, yeah, still it's still.
Speaker 6: I think it's still. I think it's one of his best.
Speaker 6: I think it's one of his best. Honestly, Ken, what
Speaker 6: say you do it?
Speaker 1: Hold up?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5: I think I think the story is the story I
Speaker 5: think regardless of I think it the work for a
Speaker 5: lot of generations. I think the disconnect would come and
Speaker 5: just you know, some of the comical way. Like you
Speaker 5: it's ninety five, it's not the fifties assisted you can
Speaker 5: show blood.
Speaker 1: So I think the.
Speaker 5: Times, yes, it's weird, it was just the times he
Speaker 5: that picked and choose. I don't think I've ever really
Speaker 5: noticed that until this time.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't take away from the movie. It's just
Speaker 5: funny as fuck, you know. But I didn't rewatch it.
Speaker 1: You know, but I wasn't paying attention to it because
Speaker 1: I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I've seen this.
Speaker 1: Movie the same thing.
Speaker 2: I've seen it so many times. But I did rewatch
Speaker 2: it as well. It lost a little bit of the law,
Speaker 2: Like you said, right, it lost a little bit because
Speaker 2: essentially it's just about Sam being like.
Speaker 3: Pussy will pussy whip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, for lack of a better word, like you
Speaker 4: just I'm over his chick who game on you the
Speaker 4: whole movie.
Speaker 3: But my thing is that even warned him. She warned him. No, no, no, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was stupid.
Speaker 6: He was absolutely dumb, But he said he narrates that though,
Speaker 6: he said, Look, I know I was probably the dumbest
Speaker 6: shit I've ever done in my life. But but I
Speaker 6: do like the the idea how women can make you crazy.
Speaker 6: We're seeing it all the main we see that women
Speaker 6: to be the downfall in most of these movies.
Speaker 3: He was his downfall though it be, but like she,
Speaker 3: she let him down. This is what you're getting into. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he said it. He said it. He said, Look I
Speaker 3: in the narration, He's like, Yo, I was stupid.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: You know, this is probably the dumbest thing I've ever.
Speaker 6: Done because he's so in control of everything else except
Speaker 6: this part of his life.
Speaker 1: And the love will do that.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, King, all right, so let's start
Speaker 3: with the opening credits.
Speaker 5: That's what he should have told her. Put on that
Speaker 5: Tony Bratton. Hell, I'm sorry. He was the king of Simps.
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm telling you, he was like it was.
Speaker 4: I didn't even remember thinking that bad about him when
Speaker 4: I was younger.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: It was almost it was because you said it was
Speaker 4: a gangster movie, so I appreciated the gangster aspects of
Speaker 4: it and stuff.
Speaker 3: But watching it, but that was.
Speaker 4: The part that wasn't at all. This motherfucker is so
Speaker 4: stupid watching it, everybody knew what everybody knew.
Speaker 3: He was trying to turn the hole into the house,
Speaker 3: like he walked in rooms and they was like on
Speaker 3: a wedding day.
Speaker 4: She talking to crime to this nigga. Yes, I'm let
Speaker 4: a little person hit Like, what the fuck? How you
Speaker 4: get cheated on by fucking gangster Tyrion?
Speaker 3: He didn't really even care. Oh my god, bro, like
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 2: She gave him that trump before we get into the movie,
Speaker 2: did she did They do a good job of presenting
Speaker 2: her in a way that he would have been that
Speaker 2: head over here. No, No, we needed about twenty more
Speaker 2: minutes to understand this because I was just like, Bro,
Speaker 2: Sharon Stone is good looking for an old white lady.
Speaker 4: But it was like, why was he so enamored by her?
Speaker 4: They should have played some she was just stealing because
Speaker 4: what she was just stealing?
Speaker 3: Stealing. I think he was she was still in some game.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying his first introduction to her was at
Speaker 5: the table where she was still people.
Speaker 3: She's just a thief. Yeah yeah, and he fell in
Speaker 3: love right there. That was insane. I was he was
Speaker 3: watching basic instinct. He seems basicast. He was like me.
Speaker 6: I give you the world. I changed the life. You
Speaker 6: never what he said. He's like, look, you said I
Speaker 6: changed your life. You ain't gotta never workhip working.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she turned down at the proposal and everything. It's
Speaker 3: like she didn't even want you.
Speaker 6: And you know what, And again I think that was
Speaker 6: like a she's more like like a guy that has
Speaker 6: so much pride, like I can get it's a challenge,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I think that was the thing.
Speaker 6: I think because she was a challenge but you don't
Speaker 6: want me shit.
Speaker 5: Well, she was also, you know, outside of being caught
Speaker 5: up in her penalty slash child, a sweetheart. She viewed
Speaker 5: herself as an independent woman, not needing them.
Speaker 1: Man, even though that.
Speaker 5: Wasn't but in her mind she was like, I'm independent,
Speaker 5: I don't need your money, I can go get my
Speaker 5: own ship.
Speaker 3: She's a damn lie.
Speaker 1: Right, true.
Speaker 3: He definitely upgraded her life.
Speaker 2: The opening told us exactly what type of tragedy we
Speaker 2: are going to be dealing with. Mike, I saw with you.
Speaker 2: How did you like the narration style switching back and
Speaker 2: forth between Ace and what's his name?
Speaker 4: Nick this is That's something I've never loved about this
Speaker 4: because it doesn't really make sense. Like, so it starts
Speaker 4: off and it gives us the impression that what's what's.
Speaker 3: Robert and Neil's characters? Him again Ace.
Speaker 4: It gives the impression a dead but he's narrating, so
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, Ace is probably not dead. And then
Speaker 4: it gives us Nicky's voice, but Nikki is dead, so
Speaker 4: it's like, well, what's happening here?
Speaker 3: Why are I just didn't I don't know. I've never
Speaker 3: loved that.
Speaker 2: About it never bothered me before until this time watching it, Really,
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, it just it was weird and
Speaker 2: off putting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very off putting, but this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: It didn't bother me, I think just because it's it's
Speaker 5: just is the movie, and I've watched it so many times,
Speaker 5: I just just.
Speaker 1: Just go with it. But I've never thought about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah beyond that, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 6: I never even Yeah, same thing with Ken. I never
Speaker 6: thought about it. So y'all just said it, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: Nikki is technically dead, so how is he narrating?
Speaker 3: But they do that. They've done that before.
Speaker 4: Movies, though, and I never like it. It's like, why
Speaker 4: is this dead person there? Well, Na, there's been a
Speaker 4: couple of times it's worked. I think it just did
Speaker 4: and work for this movie because it was bouncing back
Speaker 4: and forth between someone that's dead and someone that's not.
Speaker 5: And then they had that one guy towards the end
Speaker 5: who did a voice over too.
Speaker 6: They just did it in weapons right, they had the
Speaker 6: little kid in the area that was dead.
Speaker 3: The kid wasn't dead. He only wanted is the one
Speaker 3: that they survived and.
Speaker 5: They got I'm talking about when he was talking to
Speaker 5: the Bob, the my boss, and he was like, as
Speaker 5: he's sleeping around with old girls, uh, old boy's wife,
Speaker 5: And then the characters started.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, he did. He did.
Speaker 4: If I had told him he'd killed me to, I
Speaker 4: couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: Him that he was sucking his way. Yeah, didn't bother me.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we go to Ace running Tanglers. He's talking
Speaker 2: about the odds, cheating systems, scams, comps, basically explaining in
Speaker 2: Vegas and how the mob took it over. Question in
Speaker 2: this one. Ace is a really good operator. We see,
Speaker 2: like you said, he tells people what to do, how
Speaker 2: to do it. He knows how to run Vegas essentially.
Speaker 2: But also we've spoken about how emotionally blind he is
Speaker 2: when it came to Sharon Stone's character. How did y'all
Speaker 2: read him for that? Like, did y'all look at him
Speaker 2: as like he's a sucker? Or like is he one
Speaker 2: of the smartest gangsters that you've seen.
Speaker 3: On a simple bro his whole movies? Did that take
Speaker 3: away from the other stuff he was doing? I'll ask
Speaker 3: you that.
Speaker 4: No, No, because him as a gangster. Yeah, because a
Speaker 4: lot of gangsters are sucking simps.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, in all honesty, he never really did like
Speaker 1: gangster ship.
Speaker 3: He just ran right. It was Nikki his crew that
Speaker 3: was helping him.
Speaker 1: They were his protectors, you know, make sure he was straight.
Speaker 1: But now he ran like.
Speaker 6: A gangster at one point, especially when the dudes were
Speaker 6: doing a car in the beginning, and he had the motherfucking.
Speaker 3: Mass like, yo, which hand do you use that?
Speaker 6: He was like, you know, you want the hamm on
Speaker 6: your money or you want like you.
Speaker 3: Want to hand on the money, or you want to
Speaker 3: leave out of it. I'd like to just go, like.
Speaker 4: Just give me that money my hand, he said, throw
Speaker 4: him out until he got hit by a.
Speaker 3: Car, go to the hospital. That was crazy, throw a car.
Speaker 6: Us he was a gangster. He just was like one
Speaker 6: of them, low key. Yeah, he wasn't like muscle type gangs.
Speaker 6: So like NICKI was, Nicky was like a muscle but
Speaker 6: he was just like a boss type gangs.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I forgot about that because the rest
Speaker 1: of the movie he was damn fucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, him being a ship and take away from the
Speaker 2: gangs and stuff for you, right.
Speaker 6: A little bit, A little bit for me, a little
Speaker 6: bit because it's like, man, why you could be so dumb?
Speaker 6: It's just aggravated the whole It's it's like a part
Speaker 6: of the movie that's really aggravating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like because he never likes At some point
Speaker 2: it seemed like you realize and he never it never
Speaker 2: clicked for he.
Speaker 3: Trusted her with two million dollars.
Speaker 1: He was suid.
Speaker 3: That didn't make any sense. This girl already, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: She's trying to tell you yes, yes, you got the yes.
Speaker 4: I'm not the one you're looking for. Yes, give me
Speaker 4: the key Jesus to saving you.
Speaker 3: If you get what it's snowballs with her. It was
Speaker 3: like that was aggravating, that wasting.
Speaker 6: Even back then, it was aggravating, Like, Yo, how can
Speaker 6: he be such a so smart at this business but
Speaker 6: so dumb in a relationship?
Speaker 1: Insane?
Speaker 2: Speaking of Nikki, we talked about hell rob he robs
Speaker 2: to Vegas because they wanted to put their eyes on
Speaker 2: the situation, see what was going on. Nikka comes to town.
Speaker 2: Jesus is a fresh town. He all all his shenanigans
Speaker 2: can get off back here. Nobody out there to check him.
Speaker 2: Did y'all like this portrayal of Nikki arriving and how
Speaker 2: he was handling everything, just being out of control.
Speaker 3: I feel like he took the show like it was
Speaker 3: like this is his movie.
Speaker 6: But he tended to do that back in the day
Speaker 6: though he did its films. Anytime he's in the movie,
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, it's his now facts, But but no,
Speaker 6: I like I liked his role.
Speaker 3: I like the and this is like based on a
Speaker 3: true story.
Speaker 2: I think Joe Petty's role is loosely based on the
Speaker 2: Mob and force. The name Anthony Spollutro.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the legend right right right, Chicago Mob Mafia or whatever.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I thought I thought this whole,
Speaker 6: this whole concept, this whole storytelling was was really dope
Speaker 6: or whatever. But yeah, I like what he brought to
Speaker 6: the to the movie by moving there. He's like, oh,
Speaker 6: thank you, I got your permission, thank you.
Speaker 3: That was funny. That was good throughout. Man, he was
Speaker 3: so good through one lounges and ship like that, so good.
Speaker 1: For a second, I thought it was ain't no.
Speaker 3: Dan, I used to get them mixed up to what
Speaker 3: I did. I was young. I ain't No. They don't
Speaker 3: look nothing alike physical statue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see how you call the people, Chubby, I
Speaker 1: said around.
Speaker 4: So A said the perfect system going on out of
Speaker 4: the face. And then Nicky came and just ship pissed.
Speaker 3: All over his parade.
Speaker 2: What do you think about how he had destabilized Ace's
Speaker 2: perfect system?
Speaker 5: Well you can also it's it's a different type of sense,
Speaker 5: but he's still It was a sucker for Nikki too,
Speaker 5: and he let.
Speaker 3: Him come up there, have a choice. Yeah, he was
Speaker 3: trying to tell him not to. Yeah, he was trying
Speaker 3: to nicely tell him not to. It's not to say him.
Speaker 1: He couldn't say.
Speaker 3: He knows, he can't say no. It's Nicky, but he's
Speaker 3: on coming.
Speaker 1: I thought the bosses also send him up there.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's why he couldn't say no.
Speaker 2: He was just saying that he asked NICKI only asked
Speaker 2: him out as a sign of respect. He's right, like
Speaker 2: I could just come out here and just start shaking
Speaker 2: it up, right, But I'm gonna make you think you
Speaker 2: important by running this back. That's why, thanks for your permission.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he should have said no, but he couldn't say.
Speaker 3: In the desert fucked him up or something.
Speaker 5: Nicky couldn't sucked him up. What do you mean, because he.
Speaker 3: Was because he's making all that money for them, they would.
Speaker 5: Have take they would have taken Nikki out, even though
Speaker 5: Nikki was protected. So but you can tell Nikki was.
Speaker 3: A wild card.
Speaker 5: Like you know when that guy was up there at
Speaker 5: his feet on the thing and he went and I
Speaker 5: was a pretty big guy. He just starts slapping him around.
Speaker 5: That It was funny you telling my friend you like
Speaker 5: how he reached.
Speaker 3: Him right right, he said he's not talking.
Speaker 1: Was definitely stretched out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely did like spunch out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until my friend to funk off? Right, where's all
Speaker 3: that energy now? Like he was just like, yeah, he
Speaker 3: was so good and.
Speaker 1: This ship he was how didn't get away with that ship.
Speaker 3: Because he was sucking made man o man can get
Speaker 3: away with it like that. They know he got back
Speaker 3: and if they do something to he did say he
Speaker 3: was made. Yeah he's a mad man. But I used
Speaker 3: ton't though, right, Yeah he was just Jewish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that one threw me off too because I'm
Speaker 4: just used to him being a fucking Italian guy.
Speaker 3: But him call him a jew and stuff. I was
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, they called him slur They did the Irish.
Speaker 3: They did that in The Irishman too. He wouldn't like,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 5: He was k Yeah. And then if you watch Nick
Speaker 5: used he was a couple. He used the N word
Speaker 5: and then the ESSEN word, yeah, saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah they all.
Speaker 2: The character was in war Walk Empire. They used to
Speaker 2: make a big deal like and you a ros Ace Rothstein.
Speaker 4: That's the same the guy that what's his face played
Speaker 4: the guy that what's the eyes that looks like a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize that was the.
Speaker 4: Same Oh so he almost got blown up but then
Speaker 4: later actually did get killed.
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know it was the same guy. That's interesting.
Speaker 4: So this is the tielor this might he says a
Speaker 4: side tail. This is tied to that, I guess.
Speaker 3: So his name.
Speaker 5: In this right here, just like it's a couple of
Speaker 5: you know, it's a couple of different James Williams.
Speaker 4: What can't be the same guy because the time period
Speaker 4: for Bowalk Oh, yeah, it was like in the.
Speaker 3: It was a dude. It was a Jewish dude. Isn't
Speaker 3: the names that they interested? That's interesting?
Speaker 4: Maybe a Rothstein is a common name, like Ken just said,
Speaker 4: Joe Brown or some ship.
Speaker 2: So now we're at the point where he meets Ginger,
Speaker 2: who we've been talking about seeing her hustling at a
Speaker 2: high roller table and he's instantly smitten by her, which
Speaker 2: I have no understanding as to why he didn't even
Speaker 2: get to the game that she ran yet.
Speaker 4: But we talked about how I'll put it, this was
Speaker 4: anything I want to dive into here when he meets her.
Speaker 4: But that's probably why it because she was a go getter.
Speaker 4: She was pretty, but also she was doing some funck shit,
Speaker 4: you know, so I could I could kind of.
Speaker 3: Understand, but it was just it was just too much,
Speaker 3: too fast.
Speaker 4: But I've definitely hung out with women that I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I'm not really that attracted to you, but like respect
Speaker 4: the fact that you just did coke off the bathroom
Speaker 4: in this bar.
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of Colet's like you should hang out.
Speaker 6: That's that toxic.
Speaker 4: So I kind of get it. I'm not giving her
Speaker 4: my fucking you know, the code of my bank account
Speaker 4: and ship though depending on how long, because I met
Speaker 4: you doing coke off the fucking sink, so I know
Speaker 4: how you get down.
Speaker 3: I'm not giving you anything.
Speaker 4: She does some tricks for you, were like you know,
Speaker 4: here you go, only she can give me that trump.
Speaker 3: That's about it.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying, you ain't getting a.
Speaker 3: So nothing else about As and Ginger and how they meeting, but.
Speaker 5: Out to that guy that she was scamming, like he
Speaker 5: knew what was going on. Yeah, it was like it
Speaker 5: was like, oh yeah, I just saw you putting all
Speaker 5: my money in your your wallet and you want we
Speaker 5: want more body, get the funk out of she was
Speaker 5: filings hell, oh ship.
Speaker 1: Man, bro I was bro man as hell.
Speaker 3: This was the forties.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised she didn't get her ass well for real,
Speaker 4: I mean not the forties, six sixties.
Speaker 3: Still have a lot of protection man man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she showed right then that she was crazy. He
Speaker 3: was just like looking like, oh my god, I love her.
Speaker 3: He was in love with that. But that's something about
Speaker 3: like that, just crazy behavior.
Speaker 2: You're never gonna know, no peace with women, like you know,
Speaker 2: you might have a fun time. I just want to
Speaker 2: get a piece, but you will never know.
Speaker 6: What is the attraction of seeing somebody that's sucking like
Speaker 6: a problem? You see that They absolutely I don't know
Speaker 6: what's the you tell. I know the saying, but I'm
Speaker 6: just saying, but they say like crazy is the best
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say, but just what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like why why is that you got to ask?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 3: Explained by mere humans?
Speaker 2: Passion like men? Like they like that passion like passion
Speaker 2: because it.
Speaker 3: Translates what I'm saying, like you like to.
Speaker 9: Run the other way that I run the other way later.
Speaker 9: I've definitely been been caught up in that before, but
Speaker 9: it only took me one time to get caught up
Speaker 9: and something like that.
Speaker 4: Pure crazy, a little like poor a knife on me
Speaker 4: crazy sea that was.
Speaker 3: That was plight for us. Knife that was that's a
Speaker 3: level scene. Uh uh yeah, I'm good. That's all it
Speaker 3: took for me. I stayed clear, all right.
Speaker 2: So now we're at the marriage in the beginning of
Speaker 2: the end, essentially Ginger spiraling off drugs, Leicester Diamond.
Speaker 3: We meeting Leicester Diamond. Well, I don't think we meet him.
Speaker 3: He's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, in fact Leicester Diamonds played by James Wood,
Speaker 2: who scored Scarzy cast because he said, and he quotes
Speaker 2: I quote, he's the best scumbag on earth.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, because he's still a piece of ship. James
Speaker 4: would just give like this isable yeahackable face.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, you can, you can see me
Speaker 1: right now for the first time.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be alright.
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, what laced game? What do y'all
Speaker 2: think Gingers in game?
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 3: Do y'all think she was ever capable of love?
Speaker 4: No, she's told me she wasn't right, Like, no, he's
Speaker 4: just like it can grow, give some time, let me
Speaker 4: one day like mutual agreement. You know, he's so crazy,
Speaker 4: he super crazy.
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, nah, And my thing is like what y'all saying,
Speaker 6: like yeah, you know, the crazy thing. But I don't
Speaker 6: even think he had gotten to that point with her
Speaker 6: like that, like he just knew it was good though.
Speaker 3: I just knew it was good.
Speaker 1: Had the baby first up front, so he did, you know,
Speaker 1: Hedges bets.
Speaker 3: See that shows you right there and something's wrong. She
Speaker 3: letting you shoot up, you know what I'm saying, and you,
Speaker 3: your dumbass, is doing it. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think like existed yet, right, this is the sixties.
Speaker 3: They existed. They may not have been paid. It might
Speaker 3: not have been a mainstream talking like you got.
Speaker 7: You gotta you. I thought that ship wasn't to the eighties,
Speaker 7: box y'all are wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't think she happened to the eighties. It was
Speaker 3: in the sixties.
Speaker 2: Somebody, if somebody famous died from like Syphilism, some ship like.
Speaker 3: That, well from yeah, but you can get Syphiliss other ways. Really,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know more sexually transmitted. Yeah maybe, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah you can. So it was straight manipulation from from
Speaker 3: the get go. It really wasn't even she was really
Speaker 3: like no, like you signed up for this. I'll let
Speaker 3: you know exactly what this was. It was on him.
Speaker 3: It was on him.
Speaker 4: And he saw before he even married her that she
Speaker 4: was still talking to the other dude. So it's on
Speaker 4: It's all on him. You got money, you got a casino.
Speaker 4: You can't find no other woman? What are we doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So we get to the fallout with the feds. Ace
Speaker 4: is being investigated.
Speaker 2: He refused to give up the slop machine and guy
Speaker 2: he keeps the cowboy gangster out and then he loses
Speaker 2: control of Tangiers where he worked at.
Speaker 3: Did a slit ego take over here? He absolutely?
Speaker 4: Did you meet a motherfucker that dresses like a cowboy?
Speaker 3: You know he's got influence?
Speaker 4: Yes, why would you think I'm not gonna listen to nothing?
Speaker 4: This motherfucker says, Yeah, he sucked himself.
Speaker 3: What do you think he did?
Speaker 5: But he's still at a job to do, and that
Speaker 5: was he was in a tough spot because that guy
Speaker 5: was an idiot, was he? Hell yeah, the boy guy. No,
Speaker 5: the cowboy guy wasn't because he was. He was a
Speaker 5: politician in the city. So he just but and that
Speaker 5: was his nephew. We're talking about the nephew that worked there.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought something about the cowboy. The cowboy guy
Speaker 3: was slats and he kicked out Nicky's cowboy guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about the politician.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking of too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're talking about that. That was that was
Speaker 5: the guy that Nikki beat up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: he did the right thing with him.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we'll talk about aces guy, the guy what you
Speaker 4: were about to talk about a.
Speaker 5: Yeah, white boy there were there were all the machines
Speaker 5: are red and he was just letting them sucking down
Speaker 5: because bro, what the there's nothing wrong with that?
Speaker 3: Well, gosh a, what the fuck? Andy Griffin? What's the
Speaker 3: guy from Andy Griffith whom pile pile? Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 3: regret this. Oh yeah, like what bro, you get.
Speaker 4: Your get your touchd ask the funk out my goddamn casino.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was. He was stupid. They showed us early. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was. He was stupid.
Speaker 2: So Nicky became a lot more reckless robberies, beat down
Speaker 2: skimming operations get sloppy. Uh, the desert scenes he goes
Speaker 2: out and order Ace. Well, when they went out to
Speaker 2: the designated some of those scenes, what did y'all think
Speaker 2: about Nicki spiring his downfall?
Speaker 3: So he basically became over zealous at this point.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, who gonna check me?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he got he got too beside himself, like he
Speaker 6: went up there for a specific thing. Your specific thing
Speaker 6: was to protect Ace. But now you've seen so much
Speaker 6: opportunity here, you're trying to just you know, come, you know,
Speaker 6: do way too much more than you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: He kind of saw that starting to spiral too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and and you know they say earlier
Speaker 5: that everybody's skimming off the top and they know it.
Speaker 1: It's just part of the game. So but then that.
Speaker 5: Ship started to get even heavier, heavier, like now more
Speaker 5: and more, the shit getting lighter and lighter because of
Speaker 5: what Nicki was doing, because everybody is now, yeah, taking
Speaker 5: a cut, and now the bosses are noticing ship is
Speaker 5: going on. And then I don't know what he did,
Speaker 5: but he was trying to tell him. He's like, man,
Speaker 5: do not fuck around in these casinos. Once you on
Speaker 5: that black list, it's a rap. You're done, you know.
Speaker 5: And you don't have that much you could be made,
Speaker 5: you be whatever. You don't have that much influence of
Speaker 5: power here. You have none, honestly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was still trying to help him out.
Speaker 2: Well, he never stopped trying to help him until he found
Speaker 2: out what happened with Ginger and Nikki. We can get
Speaker 2: to what do y'all think that was? Was this inevitable
Speaker 2: Ginger and Nikki sleeping together?
Speaker 3: Was it inevitable?
Speaker 5: They set it up earlier when they had the first
Speaker 5: fight and she was just kind of pecking on him
Speaker 5: and he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't turn away her advances.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
Speaker 4: He ain't never had nothing like that. So his wife
Speaker 4: Sandstone is right, I don't remember what.
Speaker 3: His wife looked like she was.
Speaker 1: We didn't see her anymore. Did we killed her? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So, But but you're watching him for the first time, Well, noah,
Speaker 5: I think you watched him like, oh, ship, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so now they Yeah, they did foreshadow that.
Speaker 6: Did He had a little resistance right like when she
Speaker 6: was trying to she was drunk and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was he didn't but he knew. He
Speaker 1: already knew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could tell about looking at her. She got
Speaker 3: that good, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because even when because he was he was looking
Speaker 5: off to the side and ship like that, he was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit this or something.
Speaker 3: He made the decision that day. He may not have happened,
Speaker 3: but he made the decision that day. Last I'm taking
Speaker 3: oh shit, she was taking her down with me. I'm
Speaker 3: a little nikki moucker.
Speaker 2: When when y'all think when Age found out was just
Speaker 2: when he finally realized what she had been telling him,
Speaker 2: like he can't control her.
Speaker 3: He still thought he could. Yeah, which is crazy, idiot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because oh yeah, yeah, because all of that happened.
Speaker 5: When she she asked for twenty five thousand dollars, he
Speaker 5: was like, what you need the money for it? She
Speaker 5: went never tell that she would have stolen. But it's
Speaker 5: still her money. No, that was his money. She's just
Speaker 5: the only one that had the key to it.
Speaker 3: No, damn money.
Speaker 1: You know, she did have money. She had jewels and ship.
Speaker 1: She had her own stash.
Speaker 3: I thought that was his jewel. I thought that was his.
Speaker 3: He a two million and the jewels.
Speaker 5: The two million was his kidnapping funds, but he also
Speaker 5: set some money aside from her.
Speaker 3: I could have swear he had jewels too.
Speaker 5: He probably had some too, but he did give her
Speaker 5: own set of jewels as well. That's hers and her own,
Speaker 5: because remember when she was leaving, she was like, where's
Speaker 5: my cut? You problems with my cut? You know, so
Speaker 5: where's that? But yeah, she had.
Speaker 1: Honestly, she probably should have killed that motherfucker in Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely just been done with it.
Speaker 4: But he couldn't because who would he Who would he
Speaker 4: get to do it? Nikki No, Nicky wasn't gonna kill her.
Speaker 5: Nick No, Nikki Lester the first time she met up
Speaker 5: with less because remember he walked in on her and
Speaker 5: they were at the restaurant. They were like, yeah, this
Speaker 5: is my wife. You notice my wife or whatever, and
Speaker 5: let's looking around. He saw no way way out. He
Speaker 5: thought he was getting way clean too.
Speaker 4: We got all that money.
Speaker 1: He should have been, he should have been, he should
Speaker 1: have been put in the desert.
Speaker 3: Facts. Oh he said he should have killed Lester.
Speaker 1: Yes, I should have killed I don't know why he didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he beat the ship out of.
Speaker 5: Him and as soon as he saw her, damn acting
Speaker 5: like a child.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stop, it's not your girl, Brox.
Speaker 3: That's not your girl, that's his girl. Yeah, she's on loans.
Speaker 2: That's your cheek, all right. So we go to where
Speaker 2: Ginger breaks down. She's trashing the whole house. She kidnaps Amy,
Speaker 2: the police have to intervene. Martin Scorsese said that he
Speaker 2: encouraged emotional chaos, so Sharon Stone improvised many of these breakdowns.
Speaker 1: She's good, she was going fucking nuts.
Speaker 3: Are we blaming for enablingness?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, m.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: He said you don't know, no, I said, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: Like he should have killed Lester, but he was in
Speaker 5: a tough spot because she still was the only one
Speaker 5: that had the key to the money.
Speaker 3: He could have got that key. Yes, he should have
Speaker 3: fucking hnd her up one day and just like give
Speaker 3: me the fucking key. Stop playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. True, but she was the only one that could
Speaker 1: open the safe though. Remember that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He could have got the key because if he had
Speaker 3: the key, because they were both on the on the box.
Speaker 3: I thought they were both on the box. She the
Speaker 3: only one had the key. No, but if he got
Speaker 3: the key, he could still open.
Speaker 5: The thought I thought he said that she was the
Speaker 5: only one that had assets. He did not have access
Speaker 5: to it at all. He couldn't get to it.
Speaker 3: I thought he just didn't have a key.
Speaker 5: M And I think he did that because I was like,
Speaker 5: why did he do that? But I think he did
Speaker 5: that just in case he was kidnapped. Him not being
Speaker 5: on it, they couldn't force him under the rest to
Speaker 5: open it, and she would be the only one that
Speaker 5: could do it, okay, But.
Speaker 3: They never explained that. That's that's why I was.
Speaker 5: I thought he would do that because I'm like, why
Speaker 5: would she be the only one that could open that
Speaker 5: box to get access to that money and not him
Speaker 5: in that box? All right?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: But yeah, he was definitely and an enabler, which is
Speaker 5: why she ran off again and just left him and
Speaker 5: took the damn kid.
Speaker 3: Bro. You taking the kid, bro?
Speaker 1: And he but all I say, like he didn't really
Speaker 1: care what the kid wanted. He wanted the kid back,
Speaker 1: bring it back, right, He wanted her more than the kid.
Speaker 3: Kid was a cave like bring the kid to bring
Speaker 3: all right. So now with Nikki's death.
Speaker 1: Real quick, man. I don't know how I've never seen
Speaker 1: this scene before. Maybe I did. I just forgot.
Speaker 5: But when she realized that Ace knew where she was
Speaker 5: at in the hotel room when she ran to the
Speaker 5: pay phone. Do y'all remember that kid fucking with Lester
Speaker 5: in the car.
Speaker 3: The daughter was poking at leh like that, bro.
Speaker 5: It's fucking hilarious because he didn't because remember he cussed
Speaker 5: out the kid.
Speaker 3: He didn't like the kid, shut your mop. The kid
Speaker 3: was just snapping at him.
Speaker 5: Go watch that scene when she's on the phone talking
Speaker 5: to as like can I come back or whatever whatever,
Speaker 5: And then that's when.
Speaker 1: He was like, bring the kid back whatever she is,
Speaker 1: he's in the wash and she is.
Speaker 3: Just kind of messing with it like that.
Speaker 1: S's fucking hilarious, bro, She was wearing him out. That's funny.
Speaker 3: Nicky and his brother are both beating the death. Buried
Speaker 3: alive and.
Speaker 1: Loved it, loved it.
Speaker 3: Why do you do his brother though?
Speaker 1: To make Nikki.
Speaker 3: Frankie, Frankie just got her jail to yeah, bull his
Speaker 3: brother was out here, bullshit, and that's what happened. Was
Speaker 3: what was he doing Frankie, Nikki?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nikki. Bro.
Speaker 5: They were like, bro, you don't you don't lost your
Speaker 5: damn bullshit beat his brother and then turned around and
Speaker 5: beat him.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they buried that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, he's still breathing. Man, just let him go.
Speaker 3: That turned around.
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 4: That guy was on Sopranos, right, yes, yeah, that it
Speaker 4: was funny. I was like, damn, they put you on
Speaker 4: yourll draws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that blood, we got all that blood. But
Speaker 3: else it was weird. But Nikky deserved this story, right,
Speaker 3: he absolutely.
Speaker 4: Deserve He's gonna go out the worst way with everything
Speaker 4: he had been doing throughout the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely sleeping with Ginger.
Speaker 3: And deserved that. The strength of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the Ace was gonna get at him first, right,
Speaker 4: I don't think was gonna do ship.
Speaker 3: He made it seem like he was right.
Speaker 1: He was talking that I don't think Ace could have one,
Speaker 1: but I don't think.
Speaker 5: I think he was just like, all right is what
Speaker 5: it is because he suspected, but the pictures were proved.
Speaker 5: But he even in the narration, said that she ran
Speaker 5: to Nikki and then he was like, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 5: go end it. And then that's when they had to
Speaker 5: cut see him them in the hotel or whatever, and
Speaker 5: he would getting a new sponsor. And then when basically
Speaker 5: she went back to the basically snitched and said, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's why I'm with Nicki now.
Speaker 3: And he was like, what the fuck you tell him
Speaker 3: for that? And then he was like yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like, I've known him for thirty five years
Speaker 1: and you expect me to do him? First of all,
Speaker 1: you already did him dirty.
Speaker 5: Because she was like, you need to go kill him.
Speaker 5: She was like, I've known him for thirty five years,
Speaker 5: you spent on him, kill him because of your ass
Speaker 5: pitch the fuck you think I am.
Speaker 1: Then he was like, yeah, I really fucked up. I
Speaker 1: never should have got I never should have got with
Speaker 1: that broad.
Speaker 5: No fucking shit, bro, You Nicki was just as stupid
Speaker 5: as Ace because you knew what she was about.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 4: Yeah you've seen it firsthand from your man. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: you still say up for it. Yeah, damn.
Speaker 3: He may be stupid. He probably probably thought he was
Speaker 3: smarter than that. That's what it was.
Speaker 2: He thought he was smarter than Ace, and that's how
Speaker 2: they always get him. Ye, you feel the right to
Speaker 2: ride the same ride, buddy.
Speaker 3: She probably put it on him to know. She did
Speaker 3: man about about. She picked him up.
Speaker 10: Like this, she put him on top. You're a made man.
Speaker 10: You're a made man, made little boy.
Speaker 2: We get to the end, we see the explosions they
Speaker 2: showed us in the beginning. That survives it. It's ace
Speaker 2: lucky noise.
Speaker 3: He cursed.
Speaker 1: This was a bullship.
Speaker 3: It was we're gonna let it ride. You think it was.
Speaker 3: But the biggest explosion was yeah, looked, Yeah, that ship
Speaker 3: going everywhere. He just like like opens the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The bomb explosed pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, but it had
Speaker 3: the metal plate under the car, so it looked worse
Speaker 3: than it like. It didn't impact.
Speaker 5: Because because of the metal plate had to go around
Speaker 5: the Yeah, but the but the passengers side exploded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so half of the car exploded. It's under the driver.
Speaker 3: It's under the driver. That's what I think. That's what
Speaker 3: they said, and I think that's what the narration said. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw the car exploding and then
Speaker 5: he just you know, it's fine.
Speaker 3: The way that they tried to make it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he did have a burn on him.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: He came off that you're lucky, you're lucky pal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it was. It was a good reveal though, until
Speaker 3: you realize that dummy that looks so bad. Oh my,
Speaker 3: it looked so bad. Put him there, I guess to
Speaker 3: throw us off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's why that was the slowest escape from
Speaker 1: a car bomb.
Speaker 3: I'm like, just open the fucking door, dude. Who did
Speaker 3: the car back home? Niki? It was Nikki. That's why
Speaker 3: they I thought they killed Nikki before. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 3: so too.
Speaker 4: I thought it was the mob boss. But if it
Speaker 4: was a mob boss, I always thought it was Nikki
Speaker 4: that did the bomb in his car.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a mob to.
Speaker 2: Why would the mob do it though, just to clean
Speaker 2: up the whole Nikky thing. I think that the associated
Speaker 2: just because you was out here letting him be on
Speaker 2: bullshit when you're supposed to be running. He never checked Nils.
Speaker 3: Never Nikky Okay, that makes more sense.
Speaker 2: And you didn't report back, like even if you can't
Speaker 2: check him and do anything directly, you didn't report back that.
Speaker 5: He was yep, because they could have got it on
Speaker 5: the troll and protected him. Okay from uh Nikki.
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: We have reached the end. Any final thoughts on we
Speaker 2: see him? Of course in exile, like a small state scambaler.
Speaker 2: So he's still alive.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they still let him operate somewhere else. That's
Speaker 3: why I didn't think it was the mob. I feel you,
Speaker 3: but he was somewhere else though. Yeah, you can't be here,
Speaker 3: you can go.
Speaker 4: But they tried to kill him and he lived there
Speaker 4: like all right, we tried to kill you, but since
Speaker 4: you lived, you can go over to Texas.
Speaker 3: It had to.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so I'm confused. I thought I didn't think
Speaker 5: they let him. I thought he just left and ran
Speaker 5: into hotting.
Speaker 3: No, they let something. They let him.
Speaker 6: Jacobs m it was Niki. That's why the boss wanted him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: so the bosses still wanted him because he was an asset,
Speaker 6: like he.
Speaker 3: Thought.
Speaker 4: That's why they killed Nikki, because Nikki went, that's what
Speaker 4: that's what he said.
Speaker 5: It's I think it's the way it was told because
Speaker 5: we saw Nicky's murder first, and then we saw the
Speaker 5: car bombing.
Speaker 3: Which made it okay.
Speaker 1: So order because he was talking about Nicki when he
Speaker 1: got in a car. So yeah.
Speaker 2: Some little known facts about the movie The Niro Wars.
Speaker 2: He wore seventy hand tailored suits, seventy changes one of
Speaker 2: the most in film history.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: The Head and the Vice scene was originally cut for
Speaker 2: being too graphic, but Scorsese fought to keep it in.
Speaker 2: The movie uses over three hundred music cues, more than
Speaker 2: any other Scorsese film.
Speaker 1: Damn yeah, yeah, that's that's that's crazy. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of damn fucking suits.
Speaker 3: Yes, this movie is good.
Speaker 1: So what what? What?
Speaker 6: Which Scorsese films you think is better than this one?
Speaker 6: I think good Fellers is up there too.
Speaker 3: I like Goodfellas more because I like Raleiota. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I have to look at the.
Speaker 1: List and the head a life thing because they said
Speaker 1: that guy was a y'all.
Speaker 3: Talked about the Narrow's career. We did, but I'm talking
Speaker 3: about specifically scor SESSI I got Wolf on Wall Street
Speaker 3: is being better than this. I guess I could watch
Speaker 3: that again because I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's better.
Speaker 5: I think I watched that for the first time this year.
Speaker 5: I ain't ever seen Wolf of Wall Street.
Speaker 4: A taxi driver, Raging Yeah, taxi driver to christ I
Speaker 4: think I like more Fells the Boxing movie, Raging Bulls,
Speaker 4: the Boxing movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they love that movie.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 1: Don't ask me who they is.
Speaker 3: I know, I just trying to cut you off, get
Speaker 3: me held up? Departed? Is this better than the depart No,
Speaker 3: the part is better than this. Really, the party is
Speaker 3: crazy good.
Speaker 1: They said that car exposion explanation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds to just that that dummy ship. Yeah
Speaker 3: it sounds real damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But Wolf is good though. The part is good.
Speaker 4: I just don't know if I put him over Casino though, mhm,
Speaker 4: or good Fellas, like good Fellas and Casino in my
Speaker 4: two top like Scorsese films.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 3: I know he didn't cut James probably had a hand. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not he didn't do that, is it really? I
Speaker 3: think I think he just had some sort of hand
Speaker 3: and he I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how.
Speaker 3: He just had a hand, right, it's definitely gonna his Uh.
Speaker 5: This is an interesting movie because again it's when I
Speaker 5: saw it was three hours long, It's like, why would
Speaker 5: this movie come on?
Speaker 1: I watch you all the way through.
Speaker 5: It's because two hours in it becomes a love story,
Speaker 5: like it really kind of shifts over to that fact.
Speaker 1: About their relationship, and it just stretches the movie out.
Speaker 1: I'm like and you kind of yeah, So I'm like, man, why.
Speaker 3: The hell gle sprinkle in the gangster shit?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did this even need that? Which part I
Speaker 2: would have been? Probably would have liked this movie more
Speaker 2: and have higher ranked if the ginger shit wasn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't need any of it. It could have been more
Speaker 2: focused on him building up Vegas, losing control of Nikki,
Speaker 2: showing them Shenanigans, and then it happening at the end.
Speaker 5: But I guess they needed because Nikki was the one
Speaker 5: that really led to the to the collapse of Tagiers
Speaker 5: or Tangiers or whatever it was. It wasn't really her,
Speaker 5: you know, it was it was Nicki getting out of control.
Speaker 2: And she necessary didn't even necessarily have to be there
Speaker 2: for him and Nikki the beef. He could have just
Speaker 2: took what Nicki was doing more serious, and that had
Speaker 2: caused the beef.
Speaker 5: Because Nikki messing around with the girl was another layer
Speaker 5: to the my boss's question and what was happening in Vegas.
Speaker 5: But but oh, it's just one of those movies where
Speaker 5: if it's on TV, at least back in the day,
Speaker 5: if it's on TV or whatever, well I ever put
Speaker 5: it on a play nah. But back in the day
Speaker 5: when you have freedom of choice, Yeah, if it comes on,
Speaker 5: you're gonna let it rot.
Speaker 6: Remember I had I don't know if y'all remember this,
Speaker 6: but I had it playing in the background in one
Speaker 6: of our shoots. I remember that shit. It was at
Speaker 6: my crib and I had it playing because it's like,
Speaker 6: it's that long. So I was just like, I could
Speaker 6: just have this movie just playing in the background and
Speaker 6: Ship it won't even be off by the time we
Speaker 6: finished the shoot. It was when we had Folding Brother
Speaker 6: and I had Casino playing in the background. I forgot
Speaker 6: what review that was.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: Review its old versus news to it once you've seen
Speaker 1: the ones.
Speaker 3: That's how I felt about it. Had Ship playing in
Speaker 3: the background. Yep, yeah, all right, that's gonna do it
Speaker 3: for us.
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