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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast.

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Speaker 2: Podcast anniversary review Thirty years ago, nineteen ninety five, Martin

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Speaker 2: Scorsese directed Casino. Casino stars Sam As Rostein is, Robert

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Speaker 2: de Niro, Nicki Saren Toro is Joe Pessi, and Petty

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Speaker 2: excuse me Nicki back played by Joe Pesci, and then

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Speaker 2: Ginger McKenna, a charmer who's played by Sharing song. All right,

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Speaker 2: go around the room. Did you guys rewatch Casino? You're

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Speaker 2: doing it off memory and.

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Speaker 1: That you did? Did?

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Speaker 3: Hold up, Mike, gonna start with you. I rewatched it.

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Speaker 3: I haven't watched the viol and yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 3: it's good, it's not.

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Speaker 4: I mean that I need to watch over and over

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Speaker 4: because once you know what happens, then it's kind of like,

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Speaker 4: all right, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know this is one of them. Do you

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Speaker 3: think that's one of those movies? Yeah? I don't ever

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Speaker 3: have to rewatch this.

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Speaker 4: Film because it's like the whole cool thing about the

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Speaker 4: original time of watching it is like watching how the

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Speaker 4: story breaks down and watching how Joe Pesci and Robert

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Speaker 4: de Niro's.

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Speaker 3: Characters kind of fall apart.

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Speaker 4: Once you know all that, it's just like, all right,

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Speaker 4: what am I watching here because honestly, I don't think

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Speaker 4: that this is one of Scorsessi's best to me really,

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Speaker 4: nah nah, I think a lot of it is killed

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Speaker 4: by the terrible practical effects. Like it starts off with

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Speaker 4: one of the worst effects of all time where he

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Speaker 4: gets in the car and it skips and it's a

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Speaker 4: dummy that's like this, it blows up.

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Speaker 1: It's so bad, Mike. They're shooting people with no blood.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: Like when Joe Peshi grabs that one dude and shoots

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Speaker 4: him in the head. It's like, bro, the bullet would

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Speaker 4: have gone through his head and into your arm. What

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Speaker 4: are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: It's not it's a story stabbed him.

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Speaker 5: They had when he killed that woman that were snitched,

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Speaker 5: that Sue Peter Green. Joe walked into her house very similar,

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Speaker 5: grabbed by the head, shot her two or three times.

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Speaker 3: No blood comes out. It's weird. There's multi exactly what

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Speaker 3: multiple like like nothing? Yeah, you know you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: grab somebody.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy as teeny wing as he is too. You

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Speaker 4: really put somebody in the head lock and shooting him.

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Speaker 4: It's not it's yeah, this is not the thing. That

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Speaker 4: makes it movie be.

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Speaker 3: Good as a story.

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Speaker 4: The story is awesome, but the movie itself it's great.

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Speaker 3: It really is a great film. But it's not something

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Speaker 3: I need to watch over and over.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it's that type of film. There

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Speaker 6: are films like that where it's like, Okay, once I

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Speaker 6: know it, what's the point of watching this again.

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Speaker 3: I think for this one, you rewatch it just.

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Speaker 6: For like the acting of the the characters or whatever,

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Speaker 6: like the lines or whatever like, and then the story

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Speaker 6: is good. I think the story as long as hell.

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Speaker 6: So you mean I tried to go rewatch it. I

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Speaker 6: just couldn't get through it in time for the review.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but I've seen this movie like four or

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Speaker 6: five times, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't

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Speaker 6: want to watch the whole thing just to see how

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Speaker 6: it felt. I just wasn't able to get through the

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Speaker 6: whole thing. But the parts that I did see, watched

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Speaker 6: about half of it. Yeah, it's like, yeah, this this

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Speaker 6: still holds up. It still holds up. There was a

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Speaker 6: little bit more of a lore for it back in

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Speaker 6: the day for it for me like, oh that ships

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Speaker 6: gangst you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like, but as I'm older.

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Speaker 6: It's like it don't hit quite the same, you know,

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Speaker 6: so so yeah, but but nah, yeah, still it's still.

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Speaker 6: I think it's still. I think it's one of his best.

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Speaker 6: I think it's one of his best. Honestly, Ken, what

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Speaker 6: say you do it?

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Speaker 1: Hold up?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I think I think the story is the story I

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Speaker 5: think regardless of I think it the work for a

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Speaker 5: lot of generations. I think the disconnect would come and

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Speaker 5: just you know, some of the comical way. Like you

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Speaker 5: it's ninety five, it's not the fifties assisted you can

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Speaker 5: show blood.

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Speaker 1: So I think the.

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Speaker 5: Times, yes, it's weird, it was just the times he

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Speaker 5: that picked and choose. I don't think I've ever really

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Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't take away from the movie. It's just

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Speaker 5: funny as fuck, you know. But I didn't rewatch it.

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Speaker 1: You know, but I wasn't paying attention to it because

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Speaker 1: I've seen it so many times.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I've seen this.

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Speaker 1: Movie the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it so many times. But I did rewatch

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Speaker 2: it as well. It lost a little bit of the law,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, right, it lost a little bit because

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Speaker 2: essentially it's just about Sam being like.

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Speaker 3: Pussy will pussy whip.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, for lack of a better word, like you

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Speaker 4: just I'm over his chick who game on you the

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Speaker 4: whole movie.

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Speaker 3: But my thing is that even warned him. She warned him. No, no, no, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was stupid.

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Speaker 6: He was absolutely dumb, But he said he narrates that though,

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Speaker 6: he said, Look, I know I was probably the dumbest

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Speaker 6: shit I've ever done in my life. But but I

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Speaker 6: do like the the idea how women can make you crazy.

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Speaker 6: We're seeing it all the main we see that women

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Speaker 6: to be the downfall in most of these movies.

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Speaker 3: He was his downfall though it be, but like she,

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Speaker 3: she let him down. This is what you're getting into. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he said it. He said it. He said, Look I

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Speaker 3: in the narration, He's like, Yo, I was stupid.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is probably the dumbest thing I've ever.

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Speaker 6: Done because he's so in control of everything else except

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Speaker 6: this part of his life.

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Speaker 1: And the love will do that.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, King, all right, so let's start

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Speaker 3: with the opening credits.

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Speaker 5: That's what he should have told her. Put on that

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Speaker 5: Tony Bratton. Hell, I'm sorry. He was the king of Simps.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I'm telling you, he was like it was.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even remember thinking that bad about him when

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Speaker 4: I was younger.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 4: It was almost it was because you said it was

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Speaker 4: a gangster movie, so I appreciated the gangster aspects of

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Speaker 3: But watching it, but that was.

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Speaker 4: The part that wasn't at all. This motherfucker is so

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Speaker 4: stupid watching it, everybody knew what everybody knew.

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Speaker 3: He was trying to turn the hole into the house,

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Speaker 3: like he walked in rooms and they was like on

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Speaker 3: a wedding day.

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Speaker 4: She talking to crime to this nigga. Yes, I'm let

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Speaker 4: a little person hit Like, what the fuck? How you

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Speaker 4: get cheated on by fucking gangster Tyrion?

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Speaker 3: He didn't really even care. Oh my god, bro, like

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Speaker 3: he was.

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Speaker 2: She gave him that trump before we get into the movie,

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Speaker 2: did she did They do a good job of presenting

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Speaker 2: her in a way that he would have been that

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Speaker 2: head over here. No, No, we needed about twenty more

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Speaker 2: minutes to understand this because I was just like, Bro,

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Speaker 2: Sharon Stone is good looking for an old white lady.

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Speaker 4: But it was like, why was he so enamored by her?

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Speaker 4: They should have played some she was just stealing because

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Speaker 4: what she was just stealing?

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Speaker 3: Stealing. I think he was she was still in some game.

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Speaker 5: But I'm saying his first introduction to her was at

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Speaker 5: the table where she was still people.

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Speaker 3: She's just a thief. Yeah yeah, and he fell in

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Speaker 3: love right there. That was insane. I was he was

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Speaker 3: watching basic instinct. He seems basicast. He was like me.

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Speaker 6: I give you the world. I changed the life. You

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Speaker 6: never what he said. He's like, look, you said I

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Speaker 6: changed your life. You ain't gotta never workhip working.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she turned down at the proposal and everything. It's

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Speaker 3: like she didn't even want you.

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Speaker 6: And you know what, And again I think that was

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Speaker 6: like a she's more like like a guy that has

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Speaker 6: so much pride, like I can get it's a challenge,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I think that was the thing.

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Speaker 6: I think because she was a challenge but you don't

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Speaker 5: Well, she was also, you know, outside of being caught

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Speaker 5: up in her penalty slash child, a sweetheart. She viewed

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Speaker 5: herself as an independent woman, not needing them.

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Speaker 1: Man, even though that.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't but in her mind she was like, I'm independent,

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Speaker 5: I don't need your money, I can go get my

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Speaker 3: She's a damn lie.

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Speaker 1: Right, true.

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Speaker 3: He definitely upgraded her life.

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Speaker 2: The opening told us exactly what type of tragedy we

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Speaker 2: are going to be dealing with. Mike, I saw with you.

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Speaker 2: How did you like the narration style switching back and

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Speaker 4: Nick this is That's something I've never loved about this

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Speaker 4: because it doesn't really make sense. Like, so it starts

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Speaker 3: Robert and Neil's characters? Him again Ace.

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Speaker 4: It gives the impression a dead but he's narrating, so

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, Ace is probably not dead. And then

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Speaker 4: it gives us Nicky's voice, but Nikki is dead, so

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Speaker 4: it's like, well, what's happening here?

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Speaker 3: Why are I just didn't I don't know. I've never

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Speaker 3: loved that.

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Speaker 2: About it never bothered me before until this time watching it, Really,

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Speaker 2: I was like, bro, it just it was weird and

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Speaker 2: off putting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very off putting, but this doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 5: It didn't bother me, I think just because it's it's

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Speaker 5: just is the movie, and I've watched it so many times,

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Speaker 5: I just just.

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Speaker 1: Just go with it. But I've never thought about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah beyond that, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting.

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Speaker 6: I never even Yeah, same thing with Ken. I never

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Speaker 6: thought about it. So y'all just said it, like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Nikki is technically dead, so how is he narrating?

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Speaker 3: But they do that. They've done that before.

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Speaker 4: Movies, though, and I never like it. It's like, why

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Speaker 4: is this dead person there? Well, Na, there's been a

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Speaker 4: couple of times it's worked. I think it just did

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Speaker 4: and work for this movie because it was bouncing back

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Speaker 4: and forth between someone that's dead and someone that's not.

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Speaker 5: And then they had that one guy towards the end

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Speaker 5: who did a voice over too.

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Speaker 6: They just did it in weapons right, they had the

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Speaker 6: little kid in the area that was dead.

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Speaker 3: The kid wasn't dead. He only wanted is the one

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Speaker 3: that they survived and.

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Speaker 5: They got I'm talking about when he was talking to

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Speaker 5: the Bob, the my boss, and he was like, as

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, he did. He did.

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Speaker 4: If I had told him he'd killed me to, I

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Speaker 3: Him that he was sucking his way. Yeah, didn't bother me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we go to Ace running Tanglers. He's talking

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Speaker 3: On a simple bro his whole movies? Did that take

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Speaker 4: No, No, because him as a gangster. Yeah, because a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in all honesty, he never really did like

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Speaker 3: He just ran right. It was Nikki his crew that

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Speaker 1: They were his protectors, you know, make sure he was straight.

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Speaker 6: A gangster at one point, especially when the dudes were

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Speaker 3: Mass like, yo, which hand do you use that?

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Speaker 6: He was like, you know, you want the hamm on

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Speaker 4: Just give me that money my hand, he said, throw

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Speaker 3: Car, go to the hospital. That was crazy, throw a car.

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Speaker 6: Us he was a gangster. He just was like one

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Speaker 6: So like NICKI was, Nicky was like a muscle but

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I forgot about that because the rest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, him being a ship and take away from the

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Speaker 6: A little bit, A little bit for me, a little

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Speaker 6: It's just aggravated the whole It's it's like a part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like because he never likes At some point

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Speaker 2: it seemed like you realize and he never it never

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Speaker 3: Trusted her with two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He was suid.

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Speaker 3: That didn't make any sense. This girl already, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: She's trying to tell you yes, yes, you got the yes.

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Speaker 4: I'm not the one you're looking for. Yes, give me

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Speaker 4: the key Jesus to saving you.

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Speaker 3: If you get what it's snowballs with her. It was

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Speaker 6: Even back then, it was aggravating, Like, Yo, how can

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Speaker 1: Insane?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Nikki, we talked about hell rob he robs

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Speaker 2: the situation, see what was going on. Nikka comes to town.

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Speaker 2: Jesus is a fresh town. He all all his shenanigans

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Speaker 2: can get off back here. Nobody out there to check him.

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Speaker 2: Did y'all like this portrayal of Nikki arriving and how

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Speaker 3: I feel like he took the show like it was

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Speaker 6: But he tended to do that back in the day

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Speaker 6: though he did its films. Anytime he's in the movie,

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Speaker 6: it's like, oh, it's his now facts, But but no,

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Speaker 6: I like I liked his role.

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Speaker 3: I like the and this is like based on a

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Speaker 2: I think Joe Petty's role is loosely based on the

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Speaker 2: Mob and force. The name Anthony Spollutro.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the legend right right right, Chicago Mob Mafia or whatever.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I thought I thought this whole,

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Speaker 6: this whole concept, this whole storytelling was was really dope

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Speaker 3: That was funny. That was good throughout. Man, he was

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Speaker 3: so good through one lounges and ship like that, so good.

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Speaker 1: For a second, I thought it was ain't no.

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Speaker 3: Dan, I used to get them mixed up to what

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Speaker 3: I did. I was young. I ain't No. They don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see how you call the people, Chubby, I

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Speaker 4: So A said the perfect system going on out of

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Speaker 4: the face. And then Nicky came and just ship pissed.

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Speaker 3: All over his parade.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about how he had destabilized Ace's

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Speaker 5: Well you can also it's it's a different type of sense,

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Speaker 5: but he's still It was a sucker for Nikki too,

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Speaker 5: and he let.

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Speaker 3: Him come up there, have a choice. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 3: trying to tell him not to. Yeah, he was trying

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Speaker 3: to nicely tell him not to. It's not to say him.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't say.

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Speaker 3: He knows, he can't say no. It's Nicky, but he's

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Speaker 1: I thought the bosses also send him up there.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's why he couldn't say no.

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Speaker 2: He was just saying that he asked NICKI only asked

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Speaker 2: him out as a sign of respect. He's right, like

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Speaker 2: I could just come out here and just start shaking

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Speaker 2: it up, right, But I'm gonna make you think you

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Speaker 2: important by running this back. That's why, thanks for your permission.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he should have said no, but he couldn't say.

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Speaker 3: In the desert fucked him up or something.

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Speaker 5: Nicky couldn't sucked him up. What do you mean, because he.

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Speaker 3: Was because he's making all that money for them, they would.

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Speaker 5: Have take they would have taken Nikki out, even though

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Speaker 5: Nikki was protected. So but you can tell Nikki was.

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Speaker 3: A wild card.

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Speaker 5: Like you know when that guy was up there at

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Speaker 5: That It was funny you telling my friend you like

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Speaker 5: how he reached.

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Speaker 3: Him right right, he said he's not talking.

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Speaker 1: Was definitely stretched out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely did like spunch out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, until my friend to funk off? Right, where's all

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Speaker 3: that energy now? Like he was just like, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: This ship he was how didn't get away with that ship.

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Speaker 3: Because he was sucking made man o man can get

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Speaker 3: and if they do something to he did say he

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Speaker 3: was made. Yeah he's a mad man. But I used

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Speaker 3: ton't though, right, Yeah he was just Jewish.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that one threw me off too because I'm

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Speaker 4: just used to him being a fucking Italian guy.

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Speaker 3: But him call him a jew and stuff. I was

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Speaker 3: just like, yeah, they called him slur They did the Irish.

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Speaker 3: They did that in The Irishman too. He wouldn't like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: He was k Yeah. And then if you watch Nick

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Speaker 5: used he was a couple. He used the N word

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Speaker 5: and then the ESSEN word, yeah, saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah they all.

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Speaker 2: The character was in war Walk Empire. They used to

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Speaker 4: That's the same the guy that what's his face played

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize that was the.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know it was the same guy. That's interesting.

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Speaker 4: So this is the tielor this might he says a

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Speaker 3: So his name.

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Speaker 5: In this right here, just like it's a couple of

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a couple of different James Williams.

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Speaker 4: What can't be the same guy because the time period

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Speaker 3: It was a dude. It was a Jewish dude. Isn't

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Speaker 3: the names that they interested? That's interesting?

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Speaker 4: Maybe a Rothstein is a common name, like Ken just said,

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Speaker 4: Joe Brown or some ship.

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Speaker 2: So now we're at the point where he meets Ginger,

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Speaker 2: I have no understanding as to why he didn't even

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Speaker 4: But we talked about how I'll put it, this was

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Speaker 4: But that's probably why it because she was a go getter.

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Speaker 4: She was pretty, but also she was doing some funck shit,

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Speaker 4: you know, so I could I could kind of.

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Speaker 3: Understand, but it was just it was just too much,

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Speaker 4: But I've definitely hung out with women that I'm just like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not really that attracted to you, but like respect

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Speaker 4: the fact that you just did coke off the bathroom

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Speaker 3: I think that's kind of Colet's like you should hang out.

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Speaker 6: That's that toxic.

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Speaker 4: So I kind of get it. I'm not giving her

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Speaker 4: my fucking you know, the code of my bank account

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Speaker 4: and ship though depending on how long, because I met

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Speaker 4: you doing coke off the fucking sink, so I know

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Speaker 3: I'm not giving you anything.

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Speaker 4: She does some tricks for you, were like you know,

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Speaker 4: here you go, only she can give me that trump.

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Speaker 3: That's about it.

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Speaker 8: What I'm saying, you ain't getting a.

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Speaker 3: So nothing else about As and Ginger and how they meeting, but.

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Speaker 5: Out to that guy that she was scamming, like he

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Speaker 5: knew what was going on. Yeah, it was like it

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Speaker 5: was like, oh yeah, I just saw you putting all

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Speaker 5: want more body, get the funk out of she was

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Speaker 5: filings hell, oh ship.

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Speaker 1: Man, bro I was bro man as hell.

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Speaker 3: This was the forties.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised she didn't get her ass well for real,

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Speaker 4: I mean not the forties, six sixties.

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Speaker 3: Still have a lot of protection man man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she showed right then that she was crazy. He

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Speaker 3: He was in love with that. But that's something about

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna know, no peace with women, like you know,

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Speaker 6: What is the attraction of seeing somebody that's sucking like

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Speaker 6: a problem? You see that They absolutely I don't know

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00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 6: what's the you tell. I know the saying, but I'm

445
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 6: just saying, but they say like crazy is the best

446
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 6: or whatever.

447
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to say.

448
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to say, but just what I'm saying,

449
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 4: like why why is that you got to ask?

450
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: God?

451
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: Explained by mere humans?

452
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: Passion like men? Like they like that passion like passion

453
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: because it.

454
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: Translates what I'm saying, like you like to.

455
00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 9: Run the other way that I run the other way later.

456
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 9: I've definitely been been caught up in that before, but

457
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 9: it only took me one time to get caught up

458
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 9: and something like that.

459
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 4: Pure crazy, a little like poor a knife on me

460
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: crazy sea that was.

461
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: That was plight for us. Knife that was that's a

462
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: level scene. Uh uh yeah, I'm good. That's all it

463
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: took for me. I stayed clear, all right.

464
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: So now we're at the marriage in the beginning of

465
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 2: the end, essentially Ginger spiraling off drugs, Leicester Diamond.

466
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 3: We meeting Leicester Diamond. Well, I don't think we meet him.

467
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: He's awesome.

468
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, in fact Leicester Diamonds played by James Wood,

469
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 2: who scored Scarzy cast because he said, and he quotes

470
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: I quote, he's the best scumbag on earth.

471
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 4: That's yeah, because he's still a piece of ship. James

472
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: would just give like this isable yeahackable face.

473
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

474
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, you can, you can see me

475
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: right now for the first time.

476
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be alright.

477
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, what laced game? What do y'all

478
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: think Gingers in game?

479
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: Was?

480
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 3: Do y'all think she was ever capable of love?

481
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 4: No, she's told me she wasn't right, Like, no, he's

482
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 4: just like it can grow, give some time, let me

483
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 4: one day like mutual agreement. You know, he's so crazy,

484
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 4: he super crazy.

485
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah?

486
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 6: No, nah, And my thing is like what y'all saying,

487
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 6: like yeah, you know, the crazy thing. But I don't

488
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 6: even think he had gotten to that point with her

489
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 6: like that, like he just knew it was good though.

490
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: I just knew it was good.

491
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Had the baby first up front, so he did, you know,

492
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: Hedges bets.

493
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: See that shows you right there and something's wrong. She

494
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: letting you shoot up, you know what I'm saying, and you,

495
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: your dumbass, is doing it. I don't think.

496
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: I don't think like existed yet, right, this is the sixties.

497
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: They existed. They may not have been paid. It might

498
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: not have been a mainstream talking like you got.

499
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 7: You gotta you. I thought that ship wasn't to the eighties,

500
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 7: box y'all are wrong.

501
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: I don't think she happened to the eighties. It was

502
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: in the sixties.

503
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Somebody, if somebody famous died from like Syphilism, some ship like.

504
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: That, well from yeah, but you can get Syphiliss other ways. Really,

505
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know more sexually transmitted. Yeah maybe, yeah,

506
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: yeah you can. So it was straight manipulation from from

507
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: the get go. It really wasn't even she was really

508
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 3: like no, like you signed up for this. I'll let

509
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: you know exactly what this was. It was on him.

510
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: It was on him.

511
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: And he saw before he even married her that she

512
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: was still talking to the other dude. So it's on

513
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: It's all on him. You got money, you got a casino.

514
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 4: You can't find no other woman? What are we doing?

515
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

516
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: Man?

517
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: All right.

518
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: So we get to the fallout with the feds. Ace

519
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 4: is being investigated.

520
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: He refused to give up the slop machine and guy

521
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: he keeps the cowboy gangster out and then he loses

522
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: control of Tangiers where he worked at.

523
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: Did a slit ego take over here? He absolutely?

524
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: Did you meet a motherfucker that dresses like a cowboy?

525
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: You know he's got influence?

526
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 4: Yes, why would you think I'm not gonna listen to nothing?

527
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: This motherfucker says, Yeah, he sucked himself.

528
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: What do you think he did?

529
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 5: But he's still at a job to do, and that

530
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: was he was in a tough spot because that guy

531
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 5: was an idiot, was he? Hell yeah, the boy guy. No,

532
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: the cowboy guy wasn't because he was. He was a

533
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: politician in the city. So he just but and that

534
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 5: was his nephew. We're talking about the nephew that worked there.

535
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought something about the cowboy. The cowboy guy

536
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: was slats and he kicked out Nicky's cowboy guy.

537
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about the politician.

538
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking of too.

539
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're talking about that. That was that was

540
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 5: the guy that Nikki beat up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

541
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: he did the right thing with him.

542
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we'll talk about aces guy, the guy what you

543
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 4: were about to talk about a.

544
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, white boy there were there were all the machines

545
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: are red and he was just letting them sucking down

546
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: because bro, what the there's nothing wrong with that?

547
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: Well, gosh a, what the fuck? Andy Griffin? What's the

548
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: guy from Andy Griffith whom pile pile? Yeah, you're gonna

549
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: regret this. Oh yeah, like what bro, you get.

550
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: Your get your touchd ask the funk out my goddamn casino.

551
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was. He was stupid. They showed us early. Yes,

552
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: he was. He was stupid.

553
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: So Nicky became a lot more reckless robberies, beat down

554
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: skimming operations get sloppy. Uh, the desert scenes he goes

555
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: out and order Ace. Well, when they went out to

556
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: the designated some of those scenes, what did y'all think

557
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: about Nicki spiring his downfall?

558
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: So he basically became over zealous at this point.

559
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, who gonna check me?

560
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, he got he got too beside himself, like he

561
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 6: went up there for a specific thing. Your specific thing

562
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 6: was to protect Ace. But now you've seen so much

563
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 6: opportunity here, you're trying to just you know, come, you know,

564
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 6: do way too much more than you're supposed to do.

565
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: He kind of saw that starting to spiral too.

566
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and and you know they say earlier

567
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: that everybody's skimming off the top and they know it.

568
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: It's just part of the game. So but then that.

569
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 5: Ship started to get even heavier, heavier, like now more

570
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: and more, the shit getting lighter and lighter because of

571
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: what Nicki was doing, because everybody is now, yeah, taking

572
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: a cut, and now the bosses are noticing ship is

573
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: going on. And then I don't know what he did,

574
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 5: but he was trying to tell him. He's like, man,

575
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 5: do not fuck around in these casinos. Once you on

576
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: that black list, it's a rap. You're done, you know.

577
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 5: And you don't have that much you could be made,

578
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: you be whatever. You don't have that much influence of

579
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: power here. You have none, honestly.

580
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was still trying to help him out.

581
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Well, he never stopped trying to help him until he found

582
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: out what happened with Ginger and Nikki. We can get

583
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: to what do y'all think that was? Was this inevitable

584
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Ginger and Nikki sleeping together?

585
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Was it inevitable?

586
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 5: They set it up earlier when they had the first

587
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: fight and she was just kind of pecking on him

588
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: and he didn't.

589
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't turn away her advances.

590
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.

591
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: He ain't never had nothing like that. So his wife

592
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: Sandstone is right, I don't remember what.

593
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: His wife looked like she was.

594
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: We didn't see her anymore. Did we killed her? Yeah? Yeah?

595
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: So, But but you're watching him for the first time, Well, noah,

596
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: I think you watched him like, oh, ship, something's gonna happen.

597
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so now they Yeah, they did foreshadow that.

598
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 6: Did He had a little resistance right like when she

599
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 6: was trying to she was drunk and stuff like that.

600
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was he didn't but he knew. He

601
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: already knew.

602
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could tell about looking at her. She got

603
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: that good, you know.

604
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, because even when because he was he was looking

605
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: off to the side and ship like that, he was like, oh,

606
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit this or something.

607
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: He made the decision that day. He may not have happened,

608
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: but he made the decision that day. Last I'm taking

609
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: oh shit, she was taking her down with me. I'm

610
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: a little nikki moucker.

611
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: When when y'all think when Age found out was just

612
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: when he finally realized what she had been telling him,

613
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: like he can't control her.

614
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: He still thought he could. Yeah, which is crazy, idiot.

615
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, because oh yeah, yeah, because all of that happened.

616
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 5: When she she asked for twenty five thousand dollars, he

617
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 5: was like, what you need the money for it? She

618
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: went never tell that she would have stolen. But it's

619
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 5: still her money. No, that was his money. She's just

620
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: the only one that had the key to it.

621
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: No, damn money.

622
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: You know, she did have money. She had jewels and ship.

623
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: She had her own stash.

624
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: I thought that was his jewel. I thought that was his.

625
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: He a two million and the jewels.

626
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: The two million was his kidnapping funds, but he also

627
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 5: set some money aside from her.

628
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: I could have swear he had jewels too.

629
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: He probably had some too, but he did give her

630
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 5: own set of jewels as well. That's hers and her own,

631
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: because remember when she was leaving, she was like, where's

632
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: my cut? You problems with my cut? You know, so

633
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: where's that? But yeah, she had.

634
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: Honestly, she probably should have killed that motherfucker in Yeah,

635
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: definitely just been done with it.

636
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: But he couldn't because who would he Who would he

637
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: get to do it? Nikki No, Nicky wasn't gonna kill her.

638
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: Nick No, Nikki Lester the first time she met up

639
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: with less because remember he walked in on her and

640
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: they were at the restaurant. They were like, yeah, this

641
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: is my wife. You notice my wife or whatever, and

642
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: let's looking around. He saw no way way out. He

643
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: thought he was getting way clean too.

644
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: We got all that money.

645
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: He should have been, he should have been, he should

646
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: have been put in the desert.

647
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: Facts. Oh he said he should have killed Lester.

648
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I should have killed I don't know why he didn't.

649
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he beat the ship out of.

650
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: Him and as soon as he saw her, damn acting

651
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: like a child.

652
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, stop, it's not your girl, Brox.

653
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: That's not your girl, that's his girl. Yeah, she's on loans.

654
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: That's your cheek, all right. So we go to where

655
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: Ginger breaks down. She's trashing the whole house. She kidnaps Amy,

656
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: the police have to intervene. Martin Scorsese said that he

657
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: encouraged emotional chaos, so Sharon Stone improvised many of these breakdowns.

658
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: She's good, she was going fucking nuts.

659
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: Are we blaming for enablingness?

660
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Yep?

661
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, m.

662
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

663
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: He said you don't know, no, I said, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

664
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: Like he should have killed Lester, but he was in

665
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 5: a tough spot because she still was the only one

666
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 5: that had the key to the money.

667
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: He could have got that key. Yes, he should have

668
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: fucking hnd her up one day and just like give

669
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: me the fucking key. Stop playing.

670
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. True, but she was the only one that could

671
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: open the safe though. Remember that's what I'm saying.

672
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: He could have got the key because if he had

673
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: the key, because they were both on the on the box.

674
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: I thought they were both on the box. She the

675
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: only one had the key. No, but if he got

676
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: the key, he could still open.

677
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: The thought I thought he said that she was the

678
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: only one that had assets. He did not have access

679
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: to it at all. He couldn't get to it.

680
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: I thought he just didn't have a key.

681
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: M And I think he did that because I was like,

682
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 5: why did he do that? But I think he did

683
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: that just in case he was kidnapped. Him not being

684
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: on it, they couldn't force him under the rest to

685
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: open it, and she would be the only one that

686
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 5: could do it, okay, But.

687
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: They never explained that. That's that's why I was.

688
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 5: I thought he would do that because I'm like, why

689
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 5: would she be the only one that could open that

690
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: box to get access to that money and not him

691
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 5: in that box? All right?

692
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: You know?

693
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, he was definitely and an enabler, which is

694
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: why she ran off again and just left him and

695
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: took the damn kid.

696
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: Bro. You taking the kid, bro?

697
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: And he but all I say, like he didn't really

698
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: care what the kid wanted. He wanted the kid back,

699
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: bring it back, right, He wanted her more than the kid.

700
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: Kid was a cave like bring the kid to bring

701
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: all right. So now with Nikki's death.

702
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Real quick, man. I don't know how I've never seen

703
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: this scene before. Maybe I did. I just forgot.

704
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: But when she realized that Ace knew where she was

705
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 5: at in the hotel room when she ran to the

706
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: pay phone. Do y'all remember that kid fucking with Lester

707
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 5: in the car.

708
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: The daughter was poking at leh like that, bro.

709
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: It's fucking hilarious because he didn't because remember he cussed

710
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 5: out the kid.

711
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: He didn't like the kid, shut your mop. The kid

712
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: was just snapping at him.

713
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 5: Go watch that scene when she's on the phone talking

714
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 5: to as like can I come back or whatever whatever,

715
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 5: And then that's when.

716
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: He was like, bring the kid back whatever she is,

717
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: he's in the wash and she is.

718
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: Just kind of messing with it like that.

719
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: S's fucking hilarious, bro, She was wearing him out. That's funny.

720
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: Nicky and his brother are both beating the death. Buried

721
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: alive and.

722
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Loved it, loved it.

723
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: Why do you do his brother though?

724
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: To make Nikki.

725
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: Frankie, Frankie just got her jail to yeah, bull his

726
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: brother was out here, bullshit, and that's what happened. Was

727
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 3: what was he doing Frankie, Nikki?

728
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nikki. Bro.

729
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 5: They were like, bro, you don't you don't lost your

730
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: damn bullshit beat his brother and then turned around and

731
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: beat him.

732
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: Man.

733
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they buried that motherfucker.

734
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: Come on, man, he's still breathing. Man, just let him go.

735
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: That turned around.

736
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: He said.

737
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: That guy was on Sopranos, right, yes, yeah, that it

738
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: was funny. I was like, damn, they put you on

739
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 4: yourll draws.

740
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that blood, we got all that blood. But

741
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: else it was weird. But Nikky deserved this story, right,

742
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: he absolutely.

743
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: Deserve He's gonna go out the worst way with everything

744
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: he had been doing throughout the movie.

745
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely sleeping with Ginger.

746
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: And deserved that. The strength of that.

747
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the Ace was gonna get at him first, right,

748
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: I don't think was gonna do ship.

749
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: He made it seem like he was right.

750
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: He was talking that I don't think Ace could have one,

751
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: but I don't think.

752
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: I think he was just like, all right is what

753
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: it is because he suspected, but the pictures were proved.

754
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: But he even in the narration, said that she ran

755
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 5: to Nikki and then he was like, yeah, you gotta

756
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 5: go end it. And then that's when they had to

757
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: cut see him them in the hotel or whatever, and

758
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: he would getting a new sponsor. And then when basically

759
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: she went back to the basically snitched and said, yeah,

760
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: that's why I'm with Nicki now.

761
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: And he was like, what the fuck you tell him

762
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: for that? And then he was like yeah.

763
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: He was like, I've known him for thirty five years

764
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and you expect me to do him? First of all,

765
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: you already did him dirty.

766
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: Because she was like, you need to go kill him.

767
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: She was like, I've known him for thirty five years,

768
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: you spent on him, kill him because of your ass

769
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: pitch the fuck you think I am.

770
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Then he was like, yeah, I really fucked up. I

771
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: never should have got I never should have got with

772
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: that broad.

773
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 5: No fucking shit, bro, You Nicki was just as stupid

774
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: as Ace because you knew what she was about.

775
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: Two.

776
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: Yeah you've seen it firsthand from your man. Yeah, but

777
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: you still say up for it. Yeah, damn.

778
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: He may be stupid. He probably probably thought he was

779
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: smarter than that. That's what it was.

780
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: He thought he was smarter than Ace, and that's how

781
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: they always get him. Ye, you feel the right to

782
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: ride the same ride, buddy.

783
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: She probably put it on him to know. She did

784
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: man about about. She picked him up.

785
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 10: Like this, she put him on top. You're a made man.

786
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 10: You're a made man, made little boy.

787
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: We get to the end, we see the explosions they

788
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: showed us in the beginning. That survives it. It's ace

789
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: lucky noise.

790
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: He cursed.

791
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: This was a bullship.

792
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: It was we're gonna let it ride. You think it was.

793
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: But the biggest explosion was yeah, looked, Yeah, that ship

794
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: going everywhere. He just like like opens the door.

795
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

796
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: The bomb explosed pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, but it had

797
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: the metal plate under the car, so it looked worse

798
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: than it like. It didn't impact.

799
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: Because because of the metal plate had to go around

800
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 5: the Yeah, but the but the passengers side exploded.

801
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so half of the car exploded. It's under the driver.

802
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: It's under the driver. That's what I think. That's what

803
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: they said, and I think that's what the narration said. Yeah.

804
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw the car exploding and then

805
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 5: he just you know, it's fine.

806
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: The way that they tried to make it makes sense.

807
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

808
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he did have a burn on him.

809
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

810
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: He came off that you're lucky, you're lucky pal. Yeah,

811
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: but it was. It was a good reveal though, until

812
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: you realize that dummy that looks so bad. Oh my,

813
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: it looked so bad. Put him there, I guess to

814
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: throw us off.

815
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's why that was the slowest escape from

816
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: a car bomb.

817
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, just open the fucking door, dude. Who did

818
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: the car back home? Niki? It was Nikki. That's why

819
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: they I thought they killed Nikki before. Yeah, I thought

820
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: so too.

821
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: I thought it was the mob boss. But if it

822
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 4: was a mob boss, I always thought it was Nikki

823
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: that did the bomb in his car.

824
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: I thought it was a mob to.

825
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: Why would the mob do it though, just to clean

826
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: up the whole Nikky thing. I think that the associated

827
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: just because you was out here letting him be on

828
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: bullshit when you're supposed to be running. He never checked Nils.

829
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: Never Nikky Okay, that makes more sense.

830
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: And you didn't report back, like even if you can't

831
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: check him and do anything directly, you didn't report back that.

832
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 5: He was yep, because they could have got it on

833
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 5: the troll and protected him. Okay from uh Nikki.

834
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Got it.

835
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: All right?

836
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: We have reached the end. Any final thoughts on we

837
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: see him? Of course in exile, like a small state scambaler.

838
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: So he's still alive.

839
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, they still let him operate somewhere else. That's

840
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 3: why I didn't think it was the mob. I feel you,

841
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: but he was somewhere else though. Yeah, you can't be here,

842
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: you can go.

843
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: But they tried to kill him and he lived there

844
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: like all right, we tried to kill you, but since

845
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: you lived, you can go over to Texas.

846
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: It had to.

847
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, so I'm confused. I thought I didn't think

848
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: they let him. I thought he just left and ran

849
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: into hotting.

850
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: No, they let something. They let him.

851
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 6: Jacobs m it was Niki. That's why the boss wanted him. Yeah, yeah,

852
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 6: so the bosses still wanted him because he was an asset,

853
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: like he.

854
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: Thought.

855
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: That's why they killed Nikki, because Nikki went, that's what

856
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 4: that's what he said.

857
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: It's I think it's the way it was told because

858
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 5: we saw Nicky's murder first, and then we saw the

859
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 5: car bombing.

860
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: Which made it okay.

861
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: So order because he was talking about Nicki when he

862
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: got in a car. So yeah.

863
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: Some little known facts about the movie The Niro Wars.

864
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: He wore seventy hand tailored suits, seventy changes one of

865
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: the most in film history.

866
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

867
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: The Head and the Vice scene was originally cut for

868
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: being too graphic, but Scorsese fought to keep it in.

869
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: The movie uses over three hundred music cues, more than

870
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: any other Scorsese film.

871
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Damn yeah, yeah, that's that's that's crazy. That's a lot

872
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: of damn fucking suits.

873
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 3: Yes, this movie is good.

874
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: So what what? What?

875
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 6: Which Scorsese films you think is better than this one?

876
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 6: I think good Fellers is up there too.

877
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: I like Goodfellas more because I like Raleiota. I don't know.

878
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: I have to look at the.

879
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: List and the head a life thing because they said

880
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: that guy was a y'all.

881
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: Talked about the Narrow's career. We did, but I'm talking

882
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: about specifically scor SESSI I got Wolf on Wall Street

883
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: is being better than this. I guess I could watch

884
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: that again because I don't know. I don't know if

885
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: that's better.

886
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: I think I watched that for the first time this year.

887
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Speaker 5: I ain't ever seen Wolf of Wall Street.

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: A taxi driver, Raging Yeah, taxi driver to christ I

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00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: think I like more Fells the Boxing movie, Raging Bulls,

890
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: the Boxing movie.

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00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they love that movie.

892
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: It's good.

893
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Don't ask me who they is.

894
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: I know, I just trying to cut you off, get

895
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: me held up? Departed? Is this better than the depart No,

896
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: the part is better than this. Really, the party is

897
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: crazy good.

898
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: They said that car exposion explanation.

899
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds to just that that dummy ship. Yeah

900
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: it sounds real damn.

901
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: But Wolf is good though. The part is good.

903
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: I just don't know if I put him over Casino though, mhm,

904
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: or good Fellas, like good Fellas and Casino in my

905
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: two top like Scorsese films.

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00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: Mhm.

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00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: I know he didn't cut James probably had a hand. Yeah,

908
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: it's not he didn't do that, is it really? I

909
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: think I think he just had some sort of hand

910
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: and he I don't know.

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00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how.

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00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: He just had a hand, right, it's definitely gonna his Uh.

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00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: This is an interesting movie because again it's when I

914
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: saw it was three hours long, It's like, why would

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00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: this movie come on?

916
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: I watch you all the way through.

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00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 5: It's because two hours in it becomes a love story,

918
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 5: like it really kind of shifts over to that fact.

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00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: About their relationship, and it just stretches the movie out.

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00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm like and you kind of yeah, So I'm like, man, why.

921
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: The hell gle sprinkle in the gangster shit?

922
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: Though?

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00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did this even need that? Which part I

924
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: would have been? Probably would have liked this movie more

925
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: and have higher ranked if the ginger shit wasn't. I

926
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: didn't need any of it. It could have been more

927
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: focused on him building up Vegas, losing control of Nikki,

928
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: showing them Shenanigans, and then it happening at the end.

929
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: But I guess they needed because Nikki was the one

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 5: that really led to the to the collapse of Tagiers

931
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 5: or Tangiers or whatever it was. It wasn't really her,

932
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 5: you know, it was it was Nicki getting out of control.

933
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: And she necessary didn't even necessarily have to be there

934
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: for him and Nikki the beef. He could have just

935
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: took what Nicki was doing more serious, and that had

936
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: caused the beef.

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00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 5: Because Nikki messing around with the girl was another layer

938
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 5: to the my boss's question and what was happening in Vegas.

939
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 5: But but oh, it's just one of those movies where

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00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: if it's on TV, at least back in the day,

941
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 5: if it's on TV or whatever, well I ever put

942
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: it on a play nah. But back in the day

943
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 5: when you have freedom of choice, Yeah, if it comes on,

944
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 5: you're gonna let it rot.

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00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 6: Remember I had I don't know if y'all remember this,

946
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 6: but I had it playing in the background in one

947
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 6: of our shoots. I remember that shit. It was at

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 6: my crib and I had it playing because it's like,

949
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 6: it's that long. So I was just like, I could

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00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 6: just have this movie just playing in the background and

951
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 6: Ship it won't even be off by the time we

952
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: finished the shoot. It was when we had Folding Brother

953
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 6: and I had Casino playing in the background. I forgot

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00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 6: what review that was.

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00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have.

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00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Review its old versus news to it once you've seen

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00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: the ones.

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00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: That's how I felt about it. Had Ship playing in

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00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: the background. Yep, yeah, all right, that's gonna do it

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00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 2: At the Prase Perst Second Podcast, thirtieth anniversary review of Casino,

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Speaker 2: we Are Out Peace sh