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Speaker 1: Let's get right to the guy who just had that

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Speaker 1: you say that the Colts now have officially said to

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson that he is free to talk to other people, right.

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Speaker 2: That is correct.

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Speaker 3: There was a meeting with his representation today at the

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Speaker 3: you know, you play matchmaker to some degree, and then

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Speaker 3: there are teams that now hear this news and maybe interested,

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Speaker 3: they could reach out. So we'll see what next.

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Speaker 4: Domino faults, Stephen.

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Speaker 1: I hate to ask it this simplistically, but to an extent,

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Speaker 1: and it makes it sound like I'm picking on the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Richardson's responsibility to find or is it more so hey,

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Speaker 3: I think it's the ladder.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's the ladder.

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Speaker 3: So they're actually by doing it this way, you're kind

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Speaker 3: as opposed to trading him to and not saying this

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Speaker 3: to work out in an ideal way, the player and

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Speaker 3: when you look at it from that, it's not a negative.

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Speaker 1: Here, does this give us any indication or is it

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Speaker 3: I wonder about that. I didn't. I didn't get that

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Speaker 3: So I would say that's a pretty good thing to

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Speaker 1: Yes, what do you believe Anthony Richardson would get in

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think you're looking at It's not

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Speaker 1: Stephen, I know you got to run, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: Was that your contribution or was that something that was

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Speaker 1: the Java House Cold Brew Coffee guest line. David, first off,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Thanks for the time. And I

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Speaker 6: I did actually just get to Saint Pete so I

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't think there was ever any certainty towards it.

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Speaker 6: Be at this top team, and I absously achieve one

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Speaker 6: He always says things like that. So it's just who

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Speaker 2: Ooh, artists I choose to listen to us. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm listening to the Smiths. I really like the Smiths.

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Speaker 6: Oh most enjoyed. Honestly, it's gotta be Hawaii. I just

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Speaker 6: You want sixty degrees and nice farmland. You go a

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Speaker 5: to go. We're going to Honolulu for a day and

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Speaker 5: then Kawai for like five days.

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Speaker 2: Got any advice, Well, Honolulu.

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Speaker 6: And kah those are the two islands I haven't gone to.

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Speaker 6: Well my time I spent. Most of the time I

445
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Speaker 6: spent is actually on Maui. But honestly, from my experience,

446
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Speaker 6: any any opportunity you can go up to the crater

447
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Speaker 6: depends what time you're going in the season.

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Speaker 2: I think we probably just missed it.

449
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Speaker 6: But you have the whales season where you can go

450
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Speaker 6: see the whales, which is incredible because they're dancing for

451
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Speaker 6: each other since it's mating season. But the best thing

452
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Speaker 6: is to try to go up into one of the

453
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Speaker 6: craters and just.

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Speaker 2: See the skyline view.

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Speaker 6: To me, it's it's the craziest thing I've ever seen

456
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Speaker 6: in my life. You drive up for almost two hours

457
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Speaker 6: up this mountain and then you go past the clouds

458
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Speaker 6: and you're literally looking down on all the islands and

459
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Speaker 6: it's it's just the most beautiful thing ever. On Maui's

460
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Speaker 6: the Haliakala Crater. I've tend different islands. I'm assuming there's

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Speaker 6: there's other options.

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Speaker 1: I used to watch people dance during mating season at

463
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Speaker 1: Tiki Bob's Eddie. So it's very similar, right, very similar situation, David.

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Speaker 1: The last thing to wrap this up that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you, and I certainly appreciate your time today.

466
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Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of stuff to get

467
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Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis five hundred in general. You know there

468
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Speaker 1: are a lot of races to the build up to that.

469
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Speaker 1: Clearly you have been competitive there already and shown your

470
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Speaker 1: muscle for it, and there just comes with it with

471
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Speaker 1: Roger Penske's team, the expectation that means that it will

472
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Speaker 1: eventually be your turn at it. How daunting from a

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Speaker 1: mental standpoint, the size and the magnitude of the Indianapolis

474
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Speaker 1: five hundred for a young driver. What was your introduction

475
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Speaker 1: to that and does it still feel like a big mountain?

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Speaker 6: You know, I'd say no, because you know, I've kind

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Speaker 6: of come to the conclusion where I agree with with

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Speaker 6: the saying and I feel like what a lot of

479
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Speaker 6: drivers pursue is when you think about the NY five

480
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Speaker 6: hundred and trying to win it. Of course, being at

481
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Speaker 6: Seant Penske, it's that you know, it's something that you

482
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Speaker 6: got to try for it's like the number one goal

483
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Speaker 6: for for anybody really. But that's saying where they say

484
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Speaker 6: that the track chooses its winner, and I kind of

485
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Speaker 6: go into it saying like, I'm going to go out there,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to give my one hundred and ten percent,

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Speaker 6: give everything that I know, my knowledge, my racing skill, everything,

488
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Speaker 6: and as long as I finish that race and I

489
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Speaker 6: know I gave him my all, that's pretty much all.

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Speaker 2: I can do.

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Speaker 6: And if I don't win it, well, detract didn't choose

492
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Speaker 6: me yet, and it's going to choose me at some point.

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Speaker 6: So I go in with that mentality to keep obviously

494
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Speaker 6: the mind's mind calm, so it doesn't it doesn't dawn

495
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Speaker 6: over me because that's rermally when the mistakes come out.

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Speaker 1: He's led laps in one hundred and twenty eight NTT

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Speaker 1: IndyCar events, sixteen top tens, five top fives, and I've

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Speaker 1: got a feeling the wins are about to come for

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Speaker 1: David Malucas, who will be driving the number twelve Verizon

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Speaker 1: machine for Team Penske coming up on Sunday in Saint

501
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Speaker 1: Petersburg and throughout the course of the season in Saint Pete.

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Speaker 1: David as I always say best of luck over the

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Speaker 1: course of the season, but most importantly have a safe year.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: David Lucas joining me on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee

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Speaker 1: off Tony joining us. Now, Tony, we just went over this,

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Speaker 1: but is it safe to say that between now and

522
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Speaker 1: the end of the year. One of the most exciting

523
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Speaker 1: storylines of every Pacer game is going to be the

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Speaker 1: pregame injury report.

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Speaker 7: Ben it'sar coming one more time for me? That would

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Speaker 7: be fun I love, by the way, Yeah, I believe so.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's a huge Like, the story of the

528
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Speaker 7: game tonight has already kind of decided, right if, assuming

529
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Speaker 7: he plays, which the history of the Pacers upgrading a

530
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Speaker 7: player who's been out for a while, the questionable Usually

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Speaker 7: that player plays tonight, that happens. That happened with Ernie

532
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Speaker 7: Smith in Miami. It's happened a couple other times. Obi

533
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Speaker 7: top and upgraded today like that. I mean, obviously something

534
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Speaker 7: could happen in the game that's different, but likely the

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Speaker 7: story of the game is going to be him playing now,

536
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Speaker 7: and you know how many guys they're rightly doing injury

537
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Speaker 7: management for, and you know the state of their season.

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Speaker 2: Who plays, who does, the.

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Speaker 7: Who they play with and what it means for next

540
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Speaker 7: season is very often going to be the main story

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Speaker 7: with this team.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what what would you anticipate when Topin does return?

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Speaker 1: Would be his minute allotment?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, not very high. I mean, there's no point of

545
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Speaker 8: playing him a lot and you know, his fun is

546
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Speaker 8: the thing that kept him out right, So obviously a

547
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Speaker 8: foot injury is something you want to keep an eye on.

548
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Speaker 8: You're putting pressure at the whole game you're running. But really,

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Speaker 8: he left that game in I believe Minnesota they originally

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Speaker 8: said it was a hamstring injury, right, So I part

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Speaker 8: of me still wonders if it's really two injuries and.

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Speaker 7: It's been so long that his hamstring is assured as

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Speaker 7: the healed.

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Speaker 8: But you know, you just that is the kind of

555
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Speaker 8: stuff that this season can be about, is muscles and beat.

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Speaker 7: Together, not a good combo.

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Speaker 8: So maybe like four minutes a quarter, you know, seven

558
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Speaker 8: minutes a half something like that. At first, I mean,

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Speaker 8: they need to like he's barely playing with Jahuff at all.

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Speaker 7: And they're gonna be premisc unit next year, right, Like

561
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Speaker 7: they need.

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Speaker 3: To see that.

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Speaker 9: They need to see him with Kobe Brown when Zoo

564
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Speaker 9: box his back, They need to see that turning together.

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Speaker 9: Like there's still a lot to get out of the

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Speaker 9: top and playing, but there is a limit to what

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Speaker 9: makes sense, both given where there se Than is and

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Speaker 9: giving his health status on how much they actually should

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Speaker 9: be doing that.

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Speaker 1: Tony East is my guest talking about the pacers taking

571
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Speaker 1: on the hornets tonight, Tony, do you believe with this

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Speaker 1: whole thing? You know, over the course of this week,

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Speaker 1: with Rick Carlile's comments that were first heard on this

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Speaker 1: radio station on the morning show regarding the Aaron Nei

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Speaker 1: Smith situation, the fine for one hundred thousand dollars, then

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Speaker 1: the NBA's response, which you were one of the first

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Speaker 1: to have that out there.

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Speaker 4: Do you think this is the end of it or

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Speaker 4: is this going to be an ongoing storyline?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 7: I mean Rick Carlisle when he responded to the NBA's response,

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Speaker 7: which is part of why I think that the like

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Speaker 7: hilariousness is saying the response to their response, like he

585
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Speaker 7: said in that answer, that like it's time to move

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Speaker 7: on basically, And I think that's part of how this

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Speaker 7: will end. Is Look, everybody could go back and forth

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Speaker 7: with public statements for forever if they disagree with how

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Speaker 7: things were done and disagree with the characterization of what

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Speaker 7: actually happened. Right, we don't don't No one needs that,

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Speaker 7: he said.

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Speaker 2: She said.

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Speaker 7: If anything, we just need to gather the facts and.

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Speaker 2: Figure it out. I don't think it's dead dead yet.

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Speaker 7: As a storyline. One, because it's a thing that happened

596
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Speaker 7: and something the Pagers will have to face the rest

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Speaker 7: of the season. Is that policy still test and Pascal

598
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Speaker 7: si Alchemi is still on their team. But two, we

599
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Speaker 7: got to talk Daron Eismith at some point about this

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Speaker 7: now right, and he as it, you know, right now,

601
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Speaker 7: has this ankle injury that's keeping him out and sidelined,

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Speaker 7: and those players aren't available to speak to. So his

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Speaker 7: side of the story, if they spoke to him at all,

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Speaker 7: how much it frustrated him. If Anny Right things that

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Speaker 7: that nature will potentially be a factor if they did

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Speaker 7: speak to him, or if they suggested to him that

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Speaker 7: he should have managed his pain to play or something

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Speaker 7: of that effect like that will be an extra layer

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Speaker 7: to this and perhaps will require an NBA response depending

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Speaker 7: on what he says. But outside of that, I would

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Speaker 7: say there's not much more to this unless the sides

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Speaker 7: want to just spar back and forth for forever, which

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Speaker 7: is not something that usually anybody wants to do in

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Speaker 7: these situations, even if it is kind of a you know, unprecedent,

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Speaker 7: and it really a situation.

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Speaker 1: Tony, are nice enough to have me on your podcast,

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Speaker 1: and one of the things we talked about that you

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Speaker 1: kind of introduced, and I wanted to give you the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to expand on it here over the course of

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Speaker 1: this season, looking at different players on the Pacers roster

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Speaker 1: and the different roles that they may fill.

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Speaker 4: Are we seeing or were you introduced to it? I

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Speaker 4: wanted to We talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I know where you stand on it, but can you

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Speaker 1: kind of elaborate on how we might now be seeing

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Speaker 1: a newer wrinkle to where Jaris Walker can be a

627
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Speaker 1: long term contributor beyond what we thought ahead of time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, certainly when he got picked, a lot

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Speaker 7: of the theory of what he was doing in college

630
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Speaker 7: was the defense and the occasional playmaking and things of

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Speaker 7: that nature, which he can do. But right now they're

632
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Speaker 7: giving him like, oh he can handle. You know, he

633
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Speaker 7: has often been like primary initiator. He was diamond guys

634
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Speaker 7: up behind the back, and you see his synergy with

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Speaker 7: Micah Potter clearly becoming like a real pick and roll

636
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Speaker 7: thing all of a sudden. And you know, an important

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Speaker 7: part of to me at least the rest of the

638
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Speaker 7: season is of course playing young guys more often just

639
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Speaker 7: to improve them. Everybody forever has said minutes in the

640
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Speaker 7: NBA is what makes you better.

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Speaker 4: But also doing what they're.

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Speaker 7: Doing with Jaris Walker right now put them in a

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Speaker 7: role in a situation that is maybe not above their

644
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Speaker 7: pay grade, but you know, beyond what is typically expected

645
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 7: of them. One, because it'll make them better. They'll be

646
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 7: doing things that are maybe challenging for them or are

647
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Speaker 7: something that they don't typically do.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, it expands their game. But two, what if they're

649
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Speaker 2: good at it?

650
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Speaker 7: Right? What if jars Walker really grows as a passer

651
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Speaker 7: or a player in these next you know, month, in

652
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Speaker 7: a couple of weeks, and then next year they're more

653
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Speaker 7: confident giving him the rock. What if his pairing with

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Speaker 7: Potter is like a real thing that they could use

655
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Speaker 7: on their second unit next year. Right, all these sort

656
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Speaker 7: of expanded responsibilities, like Kobe Brown is driving and passing

657
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Speaker 7: like I don't know if he ever really did that

658
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Speaker 7: with the Clippers. You know, there's all sorts of guys

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Speaker 7: you could point to, but I think Jeris Walker is

660
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 7: perhaps the most important of those guys because of his perceived,

661
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 7: you know, relatively high ceiling as like a guy who

662
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 7: can kind of score, kind of pass has the body

663
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 7: to defend, and so throwing him in all sorts of

664
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 7: different situations where he's starting, but in that lineup he's

665
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 7: like the third or fourth option, but then with the

666
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 7: second unit he's like the primary guy half the time.

667
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 7: You know, that's a really good way to make the situation.

668
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 7: It's prutful as possible. When your record is what it is,

669
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 7: you have to maximize these or many games. And gens

670
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 7: Walker's already talented, right, he already showed this season that

671
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: his shot is legit. He just really struggled with it

672
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 7: to start this season and now he's got to add

673
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 7: kind of more to that game. And recently he's shown

674
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 7: more with the rebounding, with the passing, a few defensive

675
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 7: plays here and there, although that's probably the next step

676
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 7: for him. So putting him in more challenging spots and

677
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 7: just more you know, undefined roles every game, honestly, might

678
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 7: make it hard for him. He might have some stinkers,

679
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 7: but in the long run, that should be good for

680
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 7: him and the team.

681
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: Tony ever watched Family Feud. I love Family.

682
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 7: We had games Show Network on like twenty four to seven,

683
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 7: and one of my college living situation.

684
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know in that Pressure Lock is also a

685
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: good one, right.

686
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: But I do like pressure Lock.

687
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the best in your opinion? Who's the goat

688
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: family feud host?

689
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 7: I mean Steve Harvey is the funniest, but John is

690
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know, legendary and otherwise, well.

691
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: You got Richard Dawson, right, you got yeah?

692
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 7: Okay, the reruns we got did not go back that far.

693
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I think we only got one or two d

694
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Dawson episode.

695
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Like ever, Louis Anderson did it for a brief period

696
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: and then they brought Louis Anderson onto a diving reality

697
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: show and they forgot he couldn't swim and they had

698
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: to fish him out.

699
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: You remember that? That was scary?

700
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Don't remember that?

701
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 7: But since you like Bane Reaction, what happened to Chain Reaction?

702
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: That show was great?

703
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: Oh yes, that's a good one. Okay.

704
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 5: Grandma and I used to watch that all the time.

705
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: Now it's awesome if we're going with the old school.

706
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch card Sharks?

707
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 7: I've seen card Sharks, but very infrequently on TV.

708
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: Card Sharks was cool.

709
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Password was cool, you know, Holly, Hollywood Squares is very

710
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: uncomfortable now, to watch it. But if we're doing if

711
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: we're doing this family feud style, Okay, I'll be Steve

712
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: Harvey here and you're up there. As a matter of fact,

713
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: you and Eddie can partake in this. Yeah, okay to

714
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: buzz in. You just got to go, you know, you

715
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: got to make the sound here, Eddie?

716
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 8: Right?

717
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: You ready? All right?

718
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Between you and Tony. Okay, here's the question. Top five

719
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: answers on the board. Here's your question. In the season

720
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: in which the Indiana Pacers were giving minutes to presumably anybody,

721
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: the player who least took advantage of his opportunity to

722
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: showcase what he could do and thus hurt his future

723
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: standing with the franchise is who Tony buzzen for Eddie

724
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: in the big Stunter Here Eddie was asleep at the wheel?

725
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Tony, go ahead.

726
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 7: Did Eddie mute himself? Did I win by default?

727
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

728
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I can.

729
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: I look back at my family.

730
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 7: As they like give me answers. I probably actually answer

731
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 7: the question, say Ben Shepherd, I've think Ben Shepherds had

732
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 7: like a bad year.

733
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: I just think that this year's kind of proved.

734
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 7: That Ben Shepherd is what he was. The last two playoffs, Right,

735
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 7: he is a great ninth or tenth guy. He's gonna

736
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 7: work hard on defense and make threes when he takes

737
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 7: the two or three he takes in a game. But

738
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 7: you know, he's occasionally had like some nice burst to

739
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 7: the rim kind of stuff, Like he's improved this season,

740
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 7: but has not expanded his game so much beyond what

741
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 7: he has shown in these last couple of seasons to

742
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 7: be like, yes, this guy has to have a spot

743
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 7: in the rotation next year, whereas other guys around him

744
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 7: furfy until he got hurt. You just talked about Jars

745
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 7: Walker have at least either improved more or shown more

746
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 7: variety in their game to make you you're the Pacers

747
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 7: or maybe people who watch them all the time believe

748
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 7: that they have perhaps a higher future, are more deserving

749
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 7: a future minute. So it's not even that Shepherd hasn't

750
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 7: gotten better, it's that other guys have by a larger

751
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 7: amount and made his status in the rotation, especially if

752
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 7: they get a top four pick. I certainly shake you

753
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 7: for next year.

754
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I think the thing that we've learned this year is

755
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: that Ben Shepherd is at his best when he is

756
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: in a rotation where a defense kind of loses track

757
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: of where he is because they've got to focus elsewhere.

758
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: And when they're able to hone.

759
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: In on him, players right, and that matters, That really matters.

760
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 4: Okay, Eddie, are you ready to participate?

761
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: No?

762
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you?

763
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: I get the number one answer. Do I get to

764
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: pass or play?

765
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: Okay?

766
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 8: No?

767
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing actually in that one, this was the

768
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: as they do it at the end. I believe they

769
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: have a sudden death and there's only one answer up there,

770
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: So here is the next one. Are you ready, Eddie?

771
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead and get your hand on the buzzer as well. Okay, Okay,

772
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: here's the question. Top one answers on the No. Top

773
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: three answers are on the board. Top three answers on

774
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: the board. If it Sunneth, there's only one.

775
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: I know, but we're Eddie. It's it's the theater of radio.

776
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: We're play along here. Okay. Top three answers on the board.

777
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: Here's the question.

778
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: This player is one that at the beginning of the

779
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season the Pacers probably didn't think about

780
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: in their future plans, but over the course of the year,

781
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: he turned himself into that found twenty dollars bill that

782
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: you're happy to have and you use it at another time,

783
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: and everyone's happy that they were brought.

784
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: In to really process the length of that.

785
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 4: Eddie, go ahead, Eddie.

786
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Michael Potter okay, and dang, Michael Potter's on the board,

787
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Tony yearscha, Do you have an answer?

788
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 7: I was considering that as an answer. My other two

789
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 7: answers would have been either Johnny Furfey or Quinton Jackson,

790
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 7: but I think Michael Potter probably has more votes.

791
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Than them right now.

792
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: I think Johnny Furfey is one though that they had considered.

793
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean at the beginning of the year. They've known

794
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: for a while that they like what they see in him, right,

795
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: There's a foundation there that they find optimistic, right, I.

796
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 7: Yes, I agree with that. They were. They picked him up,

797
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 7: so they'rehigh on him to some extent. But I think

798
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 7: there's a difference between being haneguy and him actually proving it.

799
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 7: And this year he proved that he is a legitimate

800
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 7: contributor who could have gotten real minutes for them next year,

801
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 7: and now that obviously will not.

802
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: Be happening to start next season.

803
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: Quentin jacksacks same thing.

804
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: Like they knew he was good, But you know they

805
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 7: really don't.

806
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: Now why not convert him to a full time on

807
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 5: the roster. They have an open spot.

808
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 7: I think they might do that. I think they might

809
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 7: just do that, But the deadline is March fourth to

810
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 7: sign two ways. And if they wait through March first

811
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 7: and see the buyout market materialize, make sure nothing else

812
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 7: is better as available, use as many two wa days

813
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 7: as possible, then they could, in theory, convert him and

814
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: then sign someone to a two way behind him. That's

815
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 7: how they got him, right, They converted Kendall Brown and

816
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 7: then signed Quinton Jackson to fill that two way spot.

817
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 7: That clearly paid off for them, So that makes logical

818
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 7: sense to me. And the deadline doesn't tell the fourth

819
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 7: but they, I mean, they can afford to do it

820
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 7: basically anytime.

821
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Though, Tony or Eddie, I don't know if you know this.

822
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Tony yesterday. When I look in

823
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: the mirror, I see Quintin Jackson because both of us automatic,

824
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we can both ball right. I've never met

825
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: a shout I didn't like, and I can score in

826
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: a variety of ways. And my initials JQ if you

827
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: invert that QJ. So it's like looking at the mirror

828
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: for me, what's your what's your middle initial? You're forgetting it?

829
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: If you're forgetting that part of it. I don't know

830
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: his middle initial, do you? I asked what your middle

831
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: L was L. If we find out that his middle

832
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: initials L, because that would be the same, that would

833
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: be the one thing that doesn't change.

834
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: That would be remarkable.

835
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: I actually don't know what his middle name is it.

836
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: Neither does I know that Dale Davis's middle initials L.

837
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: It's Elliott Lydell Davis. What that's worth?

838
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna do one more round of family

839
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: feud since I have you here, Tony? Are you ready?

840
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: Yep?

841
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 4: Eddie, are you prepared?

842
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: Sure?

843
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.

844
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Top answer on the board. He is the favorite of

845
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: radio personalities at ninety three five one oh seven Eddie

846
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: aaron Ne Smith. Tony listened to the question closely. He

847
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: is the favorite of hosts on ninety three five one

848
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: seven fan?

849
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 7: Is it me?

850
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite host? On ninety three five one oh

851
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: seven five the fan A favorite personality?

852
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 7: Am I contractually obligated to answer that?

853
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: I love all of you guys so much.

854
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Now you can probably go with J ANDV because during

855
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: the commercial spots, everyone knows it, right, I mean, that's

856
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: who it is.

857
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 4: There's not you more than any.

858
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 5: Of the rest of them.

859
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: So really that's you, James's with everybody I don't know well.

860
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm the guy that's known for

861
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: just calling people when I'm driving around town.

862
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: Tony, I'll just call you up sometime. We can discuss

863
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 4: our cats.

864
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 7: You called me and I was legitimately embarrassed how bad

865
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 7: I was using the phone the other day, So I

866
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 7: apologize for that. I was like facetiming you and couldn't get.

867
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 8: It on my car.

868
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: You know, one thing before I let you go, I

869
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: will say this, and this is not applicable to the

870
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: conversation that I had with you, Tony East, but there

871
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: are two people in this world that now, at this point,

872
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: when I become mayor of this town and then ultimately

873
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: become president, that I'm going to ban from citizenship. Okay,

874
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: the first it The first is and I shouldn't say

875
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: this because he went in or Central.

876
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: He's a local guy.

877
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: I have nothing against him personally, but at this point,

878
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: just the automation of everything that you try to do

879
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, I just want to talk to a

880
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: human being and you can't do it drives me nuts.

881
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: The second is I realize it may be the time

882
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: is is here for this conversation to be had.

883
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm ready.

884
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Literally every person that I talk to now, every one

885
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: of them, at some point invariably in the conversation I

886
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: hear this. It sounds like a coffee maker, Like a

887
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: fax machine and a coffee maker all at one. And

888
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: then like, hang hang on, hang on, darna, hang on

889
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: just a second. And then they sorry, I just switched

890
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: over all my bluetooth on.

891
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: My phone in my car.

892
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: Just leave it on speakerphone and talk that way, because

893
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: when you're going through the car, that's good for the driver,

894
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: it's terrible for everyone else.

895
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: See.

896
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 7: I was trying to do that with you earlier this week,

897
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 7: and that's how an ft I was on the phone.

898
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 7: I actually couldn't stop it from happening. Okay, Well, here

899
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 7: to your mayoral ban end list. Please, people who have

900
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 7: never put a trailer on any car or truck before

901
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 7: getting to rent a U haul and just whip that

902
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 7: thing around stresses me out so much.

903
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: You have to stop allowing it.

904
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Just let's stop this.

905
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 4: Who needs the trailer when you got Mom's attic right

906
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: there in the U haul? I mean, you know what

907
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: I mean, take advantage of all the space.

908
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 7: You have to get the one where it's just like

909
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 7: it's just the SUV with a bunch of space in

910
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 7: the back. If you've never driven a trailer, you can't

911
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 7: freaking red a trailer man.

912
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: The last time I was at U haul, I was

913
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 1: there for thirty minutes in a furious argument over which

914
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: state I got on the side of the truck. I'm like,

915
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm not driving an Arkansas truck. I'm not doing it,

916
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Any Yes, they tried to

917
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: give me a Kansas I might live there. No, I

918
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: don't need that. I'm not promoting Kansas. Well we'll give

919
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: you Arizona. Okay, I can deal with Arizona. That's cool,

920
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: that's right, no problem, all right, pacers, hornets tonight, Tony

921
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: a pleasure as always.

922
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for having you, guys.

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00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: Dog Tony East who's on the bluetooth apparently