1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: It's more than probable, more than possible. It's probable that 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: you're not familiar with the name Kara Swisher, which is 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: okay because you're not somebody reading the New York Times 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: or watching CNN. Because mostly you love yourself. Tony Katz, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good to be here, good to be 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: with you. Find everything I do over at Tony Katz 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: dot com. She is a tech reporter. That's how she 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: made her bones. And then she created a recode with 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Walt Mossberg, who's a famous name in that world. And 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: then she did opinion for The New York Times, and then 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: she was back over it at Vox, and she now 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: has a show on CNN. I don't know how she 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: got a show on CNN. I'm not in charge of 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: CNN's programming. If I was in charge of CNN's programming, 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I would have a show on CNN and they would 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: have ratings. I had said when when Jimmy Costa in 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: the most stunning and pseudo intellectual move ever, he couldn't 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: come to some deal with CNN because they didn't want 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: him to have the show that he had. They wanted 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: to move him to midnight midnight to two AM, and 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: he was making like seven hundred and fifty grand. Now, 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: you could argue, hey, in the TV world, that's not much, 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: but in the jem Acosta world, that's more than he deserved. 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm not gonna do that. I'm 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: gonna go about starting my own podcast. Okay, man, go 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: start your own podcast. I'm not here to stop you. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: But for anybody thinking of starting their own podcast, you 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: start the podcast. If you're on traditional media, you do 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: not start the podcast afterwards. You started before you start 30 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: it while you have the other thing, so if you 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: lose the thing, you still have somewhere to go. Now, 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Jim Acosta has more subscribers than I do. He has 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty eight thousand subscribers on YouTube. That 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: to me is an unbelievable number. His videos get six 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: thousand views, five thousand views. There's one that got one 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand views, so he can get some numbers. 37 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you if he's making any money. I'm 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: willing to bet that it's not the seven hundred and 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. I'm willing to bet that while indeed, 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing award winning interviews with Steve Schmidt. 41 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: My point proven this is all just leftist insanity. And 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: if you want to hear about leftist insanity, did you 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: hear this from Jennifer Welch again, who does a podcast 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: talking about jd Vance and his wife Una and their kids. 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: He is married to a woman of Indian descent. He 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: has mixed race children. So to all of the MAGA 48 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: voters out there, if this man will not defend his 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: wife and will not defend his kids, do you think 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: he gives a crap about you or anything to do 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: with you. 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Defend his kids from what? What are you possibly referring to? 53 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Her name is Jennifer Welch. She's like this new face 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. She is beyond vile. She is the 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: poster child of being a Karen. Whatever affluent suburb is 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: near where you live, that's where she lives. And guaranteed 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: she's on the HOA board. Why you bring up his kids? 58 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: What do you mean he doesn't care about his kids? 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: What possibly are you talking about? You don't think he 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: knows his wife is Indian. He married the woman and 61 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he may have seen her in various 62 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: stages of undress, what with having the children and all. 63 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: You don't think he noticed what argument is this? What 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: insanity is this? But this on the political left, as 65 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes is in interviewing her, I guess this passes 66 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: as some kind of rational thought. Jim Acosta was never 67 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: a journalist. Jim Acosta was a leftist who was on 68 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: CNN and his job was to attack President Trump. Not 69 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: because Jim Acosta is right, but because attacking the president 70 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: would keep you on the air. And he got offered 71 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: midnight to two, and he's like, I'm not going to 72 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: do that. And I said at the time, I'll take 73 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: that show right now. I will take midnight to two. 74 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I do a morning show in Indianapolis. I got this 75 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: show right here. I've got eat, drink, smoke. I will 76 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: take that show right now, midnight to two am. Pay 77 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: me half of the seven to fifty, all right, a 78 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: little more than half. We'll just round it up to 79 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: four hundred, and I will have better ratings than Jim 80 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Acosta ever had in six months at midnight to two. 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: Now that's eastern, of course, that's nine to eleven on 82 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: the West coast. I will have better ratings. It will 83 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: be more entertaining show. You will love it, and then 84 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: you'll pay me what you paid him. You know what, 85 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: You'll pay me a little bit more because I exceeded 86 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: the expectation. He wasn't willing to take that deal. Crazy 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: use the platform, then build your other platform. That's the business. 88 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Boo boo. That's how it works. By the way, follow 89 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: me on YouTube, Tony Katz, be sure to subscribe Jim 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Acosta two hundred and forty eight thousand subscribers. That is 91 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people living in their mom's basement and 92 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: angry liberal white women. Kara Swisher, She's got a show 93 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: coming to CNN. Kara Swisher wants to live forever. So 94 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I guess it's about tech and it's about longevity and 95 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: how people will will survive and are trying to survive. 96 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: And that's what the show is about. Except now she's 97 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: come out to say that with the new purchase of 98 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: CNN by Paramount sky Dance, because Paramount skuy Dance, which 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: is owned by Ellison, is purchasing Warner Warner owns CNN. Ellison, 100 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Larry Allison, of course, Oracle David Allison is the Sun. 101 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: They purchased Paramount, which is of course CBS. They put 102 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: in Barry Weiss as the editor in chief, and layoff 103 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: started to happen. They just ended the whole radio world 104 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: of CBS. CBS radio was around for almost one hundred years. 105 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: It is kind of nutty that it took place, but 106 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: it's also the way things go, and people quit and 107 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: then they were laid off. And it's funny. One of 108 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: the guys who was laid off said, Hey, I got 109 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: a new job. It's the most liberal outfit possible. It's 110 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: called Midas Touch and their whole job is to be 111 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: anti Trump. That the whole that's their whole purpose. That's 112 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: where he got a job. So really no change for 113 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: him because of this purchase, and because of people hating 114 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: Barry Weiss, who is not a conservative but she believes 115 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: in free speech, or she actually wants to build a newsroom. 116 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Kara Swisher is now saying that when this takeover takes place, 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: she's going to leave. The moment Paramount's guidance completes the 118 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: takeover of Warner Brothers, She's she's leaving. You have no 119 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: idea what's gonna happen. You're going to quit before they 120 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: have a chance to fire you. That's clearly the way 121 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: to take this right. That's clearly what it is that 122 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: Swisher's saying here. She knows she's going to be fired 123 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: because she knows that everything that she discusses, because somehow 124 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: she's been allowed to be this opinion person is all 125 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: progressive nonsense and nothing that is rational. Now, when CNN 126 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: hired Chris Licht, I had high hopes for him as 127 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: the CEO. His job was to reset CNN into a 128 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: it's a worthy model, and it didn't work. Lots of resistance, 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: lots of leaks, and then he was let go. It 130 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: really stinks for him. Now, maybe he wasn't the leader 131 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: that was necessary. I don't know the man. I don't 132 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: know all the internals, but I do know that CNN 133 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: wants to be this a progressive outfit claiming to be decent. 134 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: They don't apologize for pushing RUSSA, Russia, Russia, they don't 135 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: apologize for pushing any COVID scams, they don't apologize for 136 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: hiding Hunter Biden, and they still have the audacity to 137 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: claim that they're the decent ones. You watch Abby Phillip 138 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: on her show Abby Phillip tonight, a show that could 139 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: have been monumental for CNN in making this pivot and 140 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken much and instea ed support. Every leftist 141 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: on the show attack Scott Jennings all day, all night, 142 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: all the time. And that guy handles himself like no 143 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: one you've ever seen. It's super impressive, super duper impressive. 144 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: CNN hasn't changed a bit. They are still the Jim 145 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Acosta place. They're still the Jim Acosta station. If she 146 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: is indeed telling the truth that she's going to be gone. 147 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: The question being asked was actually asked by Garrett Seawright 148 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: in one of the radio trades called Barrett Media Barrettmedia 149 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: dot Com. It's the right question. Is Kara Switcher on 150 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: her own? Or are other people going to follow suit? 151 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: Will other people quit CNN because of the takeover? And 152 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: my answer is gosh, I hope so good. Let them leave. 153 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Do you know how much talent is out there? Tony, 154 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: you're just talking about yourself? Oh yeah, sure, all be 155 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: a great opportunity. As long as I didn't have to 156 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: do one of those kinds of shows, right, I know 157 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I could do it, like as a host. I'm fully 158 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: aware that I could do the Hannity type show. I 159 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: don't think that's what I want. Could I do the 160 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Brett Bher kind of show, Yes, I could. I would 161 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: be more interested in the Tim Russer esque kind of show. 162 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: And you could argue, isn't that what Brett Baar does? 163 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: And I would say, I would think that there's a 164 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: little more rigidness to Brettbear's time slot, and I would 165 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: want a little more expansiveness. So that's where I make 166 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: the difference, not disparaging Brett Baer in the slightest, but 167 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: what I really want is late night. You know. It's like, 168 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, what I really want to do is direct. No, 169 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: what I would really want is is late night. For sure. Absolutely. 170 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: I think there's more room in that space. And I 171 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: think that if you mix comedy with kind of the 172 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: the the interview long form interview concepts Larry King, Oh, 173 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: who's the guy who ended up taking off his pants 174 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: in front of people? Charlie Rose. The name Charlie Rose, right, 175 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff Like I always wanted to do 176 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: the longer form meets Playboy after Dark with the cigar, 177 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: with the bourbon and everything else and kind of get 178 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: kind of get into it with with with all sorts 179 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: of people. That's where I'd like to be a little 180 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: more comedy, willing to be to laugh, kind of focused. 181 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I would say, that's where I'd want to be, and 182 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I would show it absolutely to want to do and 183 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: still want to do. But yeah, there's a lot of 184 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: people out there, and you could probably name one hundred people, 185 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe not one hundred, you can name five. 186 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: You give it five minutes a thought, you'll come up 187 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: with five people you listen to they'd be like, yep, 188 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: they would. They would do a great job. There's so 189 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: much good talent out there that doesn't get the chance. 190 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: And you say to me, who would want to be 191 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: on CNN? And what I would say to you is, 192 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: we don't know what CNN is going to be yet. 193 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: We don't know. And with the new ownership, if you're 194 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: going to lose these people, there's a chance to remake 195 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: it into something. Doesn't have to be a conservative something, no, 196 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: but it could offer up perspectives and ideas and thoughts 197 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: and simply not be hateful maybe more to the point, 198 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: and yes, hateful is a huge part of it. Not 199 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: be so full of crap. CNN is full of garbage. 200 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: They lie to themselves and they lie to us every 201 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: single day about them not having a slant and not 202 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: having a bias at least say so. My name's Tony Katz. 203 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm a conservative. I don't apologize for a damn thing. 204 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, tell your mother to 205 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: kiss off. I don't care. This is it, kittens, this 206 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: is that's who I am, and this is what I'm doing. 207 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: And if you want to give me katari money to 208 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: change my mind, I'm gonna say sorry. There are other 209 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: guys out there that you might want to go to. 210 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: This is it. This is the show I want to do. 211 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: These are the conversations I want to have. This is 212 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: how I want to engage. And I think that there's 213 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: room for a whole bunch of stuff. I don't think 214 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: that you have to not listen to other people, not 215 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: engage with other people. But I surely sell don't want 216 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to engage with other people who are gonna start with, well, 217 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, Trump's a pedophile. No he's not. That's crap, 218 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: and that's the stuff you dismiss. But people who might 219 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: disagree with the policy of Trump will I'll talk to 220 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: them disagree with the policy of israel I talk to 221 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: them too, or England or France, which I disagree with 222 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: many of their policies, specifically immigration policies. There's a great 223 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: opportunity here. Why would I say know to it? Why 224 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: would anybody? We don't know what we're gonna get. That's 225 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: my point about Kara Swisher. She doesn't know what she's 226 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna get, but she's already out the door, which means 227 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: she knows what she's giving. What she's giving isn't needed, 228 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: what she's giving isn't good, what she's giving doesn't get ratings, 229 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: and most importantly, what she's giving precludes the importance of honesty, 230 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: which is what happens when you disagree with your own team. 231 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: You gotta say so, and you see ann people won't 232 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: do it. So yeah, let the takeover happen. Show these 233 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: people the door, and no one is going to miss 234 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Kara Swisher. No one. Let me say it again, no one. 235 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.