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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of movements.

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Speaker 2: Regarding the funding of the Department of Homeland Security. Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Tony Katz today, good to be with you. When

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Speaker 2: I say movements, it's called conversations. Are there things that

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Speaker 2: Republicans are willing to compromise on?

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Speaker 1: Well, there might be.

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Speaker 2: There might be some better systems for going out there

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Speaker 2: and saying, hey, we can run this in a better

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Speaker 1: Is the issue more body cameras? Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody so far has had any issue

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Speaker 2: to body cameras.

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Speaker 1: I do know this.

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Speaker 2: Once the conversation of body cameras came into being and

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Speaker 2: you saw in Minneapolis ice agents wearing body cameras, we

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Speaker 2: stopped hearing about problems in Minneapolis. Now, before we go

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Speaker 2: any further, I admit that if I have not gone

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Speaker 2: to the what is it the Minneapolis Star Tribune in

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Speaker 2: many many months Star Tribune dot Com. When I get there,

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Speaker 2: I have a story about the surge from the White House.

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Speaker 2: I have a story about a hazing incident involving a

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Speaker 2: high school basketball team. I've got money talk a story

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Speaker 2: about money on a bridge. You know what I don't

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Speaker 2: have a story on at the Star Tribune. I don't

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Speaker 2: have a story on any violence towards ICE agents.

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Speaker 1: Well they're all gone. No, they're not all gone.

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Speaker 2: Once the cameras came on board, we stopped hearing about things.

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Speaker 2: Where are the observers, Where where are the people in

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Speaker 2: the streets saying, well, this is just unacceptable. Where are

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Speaker 2: the leftists to say it's wrong to ask for an

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Speaker 2: ID and then demand an idea of everybody who's driving

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Speaker 1: That happens. You can't make this stuff up. I have

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Speaker 1: no capacity to make this stuff up.

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Speaker 2: I can spin a pretty good yarn, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: ages me like nothing else. The expressions spin a pretty

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Speaker 2: good yarn, and I could not have come up with that.

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Speaker 1: We oppose IDs. Anybody can come into the country.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to drive through our city, we

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Speaker 2: have checkpoints and IDAs.

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Speaker 1: You have to tell us where you're going and why

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Speaker 1: you're here.

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Speaker 2: I swear the people in Minneapolis were just four seconds

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Speaker 2: away from funny little mustaches and saying papers please.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: You started the body cameras, all of a sudden everything

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Speaker 2: got better. People stop being insane. And you know that

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Speaker 2: we've had deportations in Near Leans in Louisiana. No fights

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Speaker 2: know anything. So maybe ICE doesn't have to change all

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Speaker 2: the way ways it does things. Maybe it learned from

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Speaker 1: And I don't think there are many.

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Speaker 2: Of us who are opposed to the idea of an

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Speaker 2: saying there's a better way to do something.

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Speaker 1: And do it.

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Speaker 2: My argument has been do not stop. There can be

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Speaker 2: no stopping. ICE must continue to remove illegal immigrants. And

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Speaker 2: who cares if the left is angry about it? Screw them.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if they're angry. Why are they opposed

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Speaker 2: to the Save Act?

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Speaker 1: Why are they angry about these things?

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Speaker 2: We will get into that because I have a little

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Speaker 2: snippet from a center by the name of Merkley out

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Speaker 2: of that will explain it all, right.

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Speaker 1: Like Clarissa explains it all. Do you know what that

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Speaker 1: poll is? Producer Landing? I do not know. You don't know, Clarissa,

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Speaker 1: Clarisa explains it all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I I think I hit on something of gen X,

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Speaker 2: and then I will have a fair amount of people saying,

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Speaker 2: how do you know what that is?

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Speaker 1: Tony?

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Speaker 2: That's awkward. It's gonna be it's gonna be a very

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Speaker 2: interesting series of emails and texts I'm about to receive.

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Speaker 2: But one thing that is not.

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Speaker 1: Up for debate.

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Speaker 2: Is the idea of judicial warrants, which is what the

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Speaker 2: the story of how okay they are with a legal immigration,

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Speaker 2: how important they think a legal immigration is, and how

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Speaker 2: much they are trying.

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Speaker 1: To protect it. I am not a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: I went to some sites, I spoke to some people.

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Speaker 2: What is it that I'm dealing with. I have a

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Speaker 2: basic understanding of how this works, a basic understanding. I'm

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Speaker 2: more than willing to hear other people, including you, Tony

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Speaker 2: at tonycats dot com on Twitter ex. Tony Katz, the

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Speaker 2: three three four six eight eight six six' nine thrilled

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Speaker 2: to hear from. You ice warrants are. Administrative they are

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Speaker 2: issued by immigration. Officers judicial warrants are signed by, judges.

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Speaker 1: So there is a series of.

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Speaker 2: Difference the understanding THAT i have regarding these warrants is

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Speaker 2: that if indeed you are requiring judicial, warrants what you're

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Speaker 2: saying is this Has this is a warrant for something

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Speaker 2: that happened, now as opposed to the crimes we already

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Speaker 2: know to be, committed like entering the country. Illegally immigration

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Speaker 2: has always been enforced through administrative. Warrants, this according To

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Speaker 2: Senator Ron, johnson adding a new layer of judicial warrants is.

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Speaker 2: Unimplementable judicial warrants are formal written orders authorizing a law

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Speaker 2: enforcement officer to make, arrest a, search or a seizure

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Speaker 2: by state and federal, courts signed by judges or magistrate.

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Speaker 2: Judges they are more specific than administrative, warrants addresses timeframe,

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Speaker 2: targets et. Cetera administrative warrants authorized law enforcement officials or

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Speaker 2: law enforcement officers with federal agencies to make an arrest or,

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Speaker 2: seizure but not a. Search an administrative warrant does not

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Speaker 2: is why you don't SEE ice agents walking into just.

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Speaker 1: Anywhere they wait for.

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Speaker 2: The person to come out of the, courtroom wait for

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Speaker 2: finding them as they're traveling from POINT a to POINT.

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Speaker 1: B that's why that takes.

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Speaker 2: Place administrative warrants are not reviewed or signed by a

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Speaker 2: by immigration. Officers so the argument is that if you

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Speaker 2: an administrative, warrant you will now not be able to

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Speaker 2: reach people or who are have broken the law based

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Speaker 2: on what has, happened and it can only be based

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Speaker 2: on this another, level another layer with certain specificities that

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Speaker 2: while we know who the lawbreaker is in the law

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Speaker 2: that has broken and they are here, legally that we're

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Speaker 2: saying that they are now required to have A Fourth

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Speaker 2: the extra layer to protect the illegal. Immigrant now you

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Speaker 2: say to, Me, tony DO i really oppose the idea

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Speaker 2: of citizen? Protection?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no we're talking citizen.

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Speaker 2: Protection oh, absolutely citizen protection ten thousand.

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Speaker 1: Percent i'm.

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Speaker 2: Talking we're not talking about, citizens we're not talking about.

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Speaker 2: who have committed these that. Crime and if we're now

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Speaker 2: going to say that there needs to be yet another,

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Speaker 2: AND i would, argue clearly in front of anybody that

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Speaker 2: they don't deserve that, right not at, all not for a.

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Speaker 2: Second the answer is, no they don't get. That we're

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Speaker 2: not going to give that to. Them and this is,

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Speaker 2: NOW i will Admit i've explained it generally but not.

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Speaker 2: Perfectly AND i could have a bunch of people, saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: tony don't forget. This Hey, tony you're you're you're on the,

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Speaker 2: basics but talk a little bit more about this. Part

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Speaker 2: here's something you need to.

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Speaker 1: Remember.

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Speaker 2: Right there could be a bunch of. That i'm all

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Speaker 2: open to. It the thirty thousand foot. Overview democrats want

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Speaker 2: to make it more difficult to remove illegal immigrants from

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Speaker 2: the country because they want them here and they don't

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Speaker 2: Here why do they favor why are they opposed to

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Speaker 2: The Save? Act why do they favor illegal immigrants being

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Speaker 2: able to, vote people engaged in fraud being able to. Vote,

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Speaker 2: well they're telling us because that's a. CONSTITUENCY i will

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Speaker 2: share that with you in a little. Bit it is,

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Speaker 2: clear very clear.

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Speaker 1: That, anybody.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who doesn't understand that what is happening here is

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Speaker 2: that The american citizen to The American left is a

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Speaker 2: worthy sacrifice for the power.

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Speaker 1: Of The American. Left that's what's.

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Speaker 2: Happening all of, this The Save, act what's happening With Homeland,

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Speaker 1: And the idea of the possibility of meeting judicial. Warrants

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Speaker 2: It is to, say The American left is more interested

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Speaker 2: in their own power than the rights and the future

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Speaker 2: of The american citizen that they want to now have power.

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Speaker 1: Over I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz. Today