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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Pacers getting ready to start back up. The cults are

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Speaker 2: doing well, you was doing well. We got perdue basketball.

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Speaker 1: I know, I saw like a broken record, but I

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Speaker 1: couldn't help thinking last night Mark watching the NBA return

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Speaker 1: to NBC and Round Ball Rock and Michael Jordan saying

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Speaker 1: he didn't pick up a basketball anymore, and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: what his contributions are going to be this year. Like

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Speaker 1: it just feels like all is right in the sports

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Speaker 1: world at this moment in time.

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Speaker 3: So far, so good, so good back turn back the

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Speaker 3: clock with Round Ball Rock last.

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Speaker 1: Night, Man, I was digging that. I'm I'm not gonna lie,

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Speaker 1: uh But yeah, NBA season is already here. We had

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Speaker 1: a couple of games last night. Pacers get going again

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. I'm looking forward to that. And it's obviously

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Speaker 1: this is I think one of the best times of

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Speaker 1: the year. Everybody always talks about spring and the Masters

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Speaker 1: is fantastic, It's coming off the Final Four. That's a

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Speaker 1: great time of year, no question.

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Speaker 4: But you get me.

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Speaker 1: Regular season basketball, the middle of the football season, fall

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Speaker 1: classic is about to start. This is not a bad

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Speaker 1: time for sports. And you look at the overtime win

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Speaker 1: last night. There was a hockey game I was watching

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Speaker 1: last night with Tampa and the Bruins that got decided

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Speaker 1: very late. Like, if you can't enjoy the drama and

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can't help you. I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 5: People who don't love sports, I don't know them. That's

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Speaker 5: probably the best way I could put it. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to know them. Maybe it's too harsh for a

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Speaker 5: statement there, but yes, it's a great time nightly appointment television.

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Speaker 5: We're starting to get more into that aspect of the

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Speaker 5: sports calendar again. Pacer start one of eighty two coming

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Speaker 5: up tomorrow night inside of game Bridgefield. That sounds like

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Speaker 5: there will be a little bit I know Rick kind

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Speaker 5: of shared this with us if you missed Rick Carlisle

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Speaker 5: that's up on the podcast from yesterday. It sounds like

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Speaker 5: they'll be a little bit of a banner reveal. I

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Speaker 5: don't expect like a long drawn out ceremony by any means,

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Speaker 5: but at least some sort of unveiling tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: Before the tip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about the ups and downs, like I

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Speaker 1: don't remember, and I've been fortunate enough to be a

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Speaker 1: part of some really cool moments and celebrations of the

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Speaker 1: years in sports. But that win to clinch the Eastern

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Speaker 1: Conference last year, and James, you were around walking back

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Speaker 1: through downtown from the field House just over here at

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Speaker 1: the studio, and the streets were alive and people were happy,

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Speaker 1: and they were high five and and horns were honking

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Speaker 1: and everybody was toasting one another out in the streets

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Speaker 2: Like that's what sports can do for an entire city.

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Speaker 1: Right there, James, and I love that about sports absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And I guess you know your goal is to hopefully

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Speaker 1: get an opportunity to experience that again.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it'll be this year considering the injury

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Speaker 6: to Tarre's Halliburton, but that is the goal that he

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Speaker 6: that Netflix Starting five documentary.

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Speaker 4: So looking forward to the.

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Speaker 6: Unique version of the Pacers that I put it out

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Speaker 6: there and what they can do this season as well.

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Speaker 2: You said you.

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Speaker 1: Had to spend the day for the athletic kind of

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Speaker 1: following the Cam Jones stuff yesterday, what did you find out?

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Speaker 2: What were you able to discover that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, originally it was labeled as like I

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Speaker 6: want to say, it was a couple different analysts that

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Speaker 6: But after you read the probable cause affidavit, like not

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, I can't really absolve you of that.

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Speaker 6: But cam Jones apparently told the police I didn't know

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Speaker 6: like the charges in the case, but from the reaction

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Speaker 6: then a reaction that Rick Carlo had had on these airwaves.

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Speaker 6: It sounds like they're not too worried about, you know,

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Speaker 6: what happened, but still not an overall I guess a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's probably a good way to put it.

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Speaker 5: James as the Pacers probably would sum it up as

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Speaker 5: an overreaction. Yeah, I think is how Rick Carlisle shared

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Speaker 5: that with us. He kind of backed that up over

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Cam Jones stayed an apology yesterday prior to the start

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Speaker 5: way to handle it. And Cam Jones from a health

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Carlo said he'll get evaluated again November ninth.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of the TJ McConnell timeline here. One thing

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Speaker 5: to go back to when you guys are touching on,

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Speaker 5: I'll go back to remember Alex Golden said this when

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Speaker 5: off season of you know, how are the Pacers going

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Speaker 5: to play Halliburton basketball without Halliburton?

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Speaker 5: Like you can play I think with pace without him,

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Speaker 5: Like I think there will be an inherent effort to

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Speaker 5: think has been pretty much kind of branded into these Pacers.

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Speaker 5: But when you run, it oftentimes can bring some risk,

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Speaker 5: is to be such a my just a maestro of

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Speaker 5: you add it up at the end of forty eight

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Speaker 5: you watch NBA games every night and all these dudes

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Speaker 4: That's his superpower, honor.

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Speaker 5: So that would be my question, like Andrew Nemhard running,

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Speaker 5: from a point guard standpoint, Rick said of yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 5: that's just the reality of where they're at. From a

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Speaker 5: you know whatever that looks like for them. So I

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Speaker 1: the numbers last year, James, it seemed like every night

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Speaker 1: it was twelve assists, one turnover, fourteen assists, zero turnovers,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's why I think again love the confidence

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Speaker 6: group just because of the resilience they've shown no matter

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Speaker 6: what kind of thrown it in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 6: But when you lose an all NBA caliber player, a

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Speaker 6: And I think it's even harder to overcome when that

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Speaker 6: to adapt that system. I know Rire Carlisle talked at

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Speaker 6: when it comes to the Pacers this year and how

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Speaker 6: they look without Hallibert.

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Speaker 5: And I don't overreact to a four game preseason sample size,

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Speaker 5: but they did turn the ball over at a very

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Speaker 5: something that definitely deserves be watching. But yeah, point guard

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Speaker 5: How much OBI topping with that starting unit? Is that

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 5: Look at how the Thunder started last night, Hartenstein and

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Speaker 4: How do you counter with that?

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to watch.

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Speaker 1: Holder ESPN covers the Colts. Good morning, my friend. How

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Speaker 1: you doing today?

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Speaker 8: Doing well?

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Speaker 9: How we're doing?

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Speaker 1: Things are good? We appreciate you being here a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier than normal. I'm just curious. I've only been

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Speaker 1: here for thirteen years, You've been here for a while,

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Speaker 1: You've been covering this team.

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Speaker 2: For a while. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: With the culture right now, and how do you explain

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Speaker 1: this six and one start last night or are this

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Speaker 1: year when given the fact that that we all thought

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Speaker 1: that the Colts would be doing well to try and

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Speaker 1: get to five hundred this year.

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Speaker 9: They excuse me, they are playing with I know this

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Speaker 9: sounded like a simple, simplistic answer, but they're playing with

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Speaker 9: like a rare confidence right now. I think it was

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Speaker 9: as Moley Cox had said to me the other day,

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Speaker 9: he said, you know, we we feel like we're going

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Speaker 9: to score forty every game, and he was serious, you know,

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Speaker 9: and now again you have to have talent to do that,

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Speaker 9: but they don't have a significantly difference in talent from

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Speaker 9: previous years. I think there's something about this team, and

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Speaker 9: certainly Daniel Jones is part of it, but it's not

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Speaker 9: the only thing.

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Speaker 8: They have.

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Speaker 5: Is ESPN dot com, where you can find the work

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Speaker 5: of Steven Holder. He's with us here on the Payloss

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Speaker 5: Slickers hotline. Steven, I hate to, you know, ask your

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Speaker 5: You know, we haven't had too many of these starts

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Speaker 9: So that's the difference. And then frankly, just offensively and

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Speaker 1: hotline talking about the Indianapolis Colts, and I know, James,

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Speaker 1: you've been on the beat for a couple of years now,

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Speaker 1: but how crazy is it to sit in that press

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Speaker 5: I get behind that? He's all about the bascots blue

438
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Speaker 5: bloom Boomer of course some said Bloomer, Indie leper Kahn

439
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Speaker 5: and Rowdy mark your favorite mascot blue Boomer to the

440
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Speaker 5: Notre Dame leprekhn or Rowdy?

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Speaker 4: Uh have you ever.

442
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Speaker 5: Touched Rowdy's nose?

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Speaker 2: I have not.

444
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Speaker 3: The girls have, though, beyond I have squeaks. Now, Yeah, yeah,

445
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Speaker 3: I'd say they would vote rowdy. They would say Rowdy.

446
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Speaker 3: They've seen him the most. But they like some boomer,

447
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Speaker 3: They like some blue and all that. They like the

448
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Speaker 3: uh the kazoos or whatever that kazoos, whatever the hell

449
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Speaker 3: the things come out the party favors that come out

450
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Speaker 3: of blues Nose.

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Speaker 4: They like that a lot.

452
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a little different than the cold the max bones

453
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Speaker 5: been fighting for the last month.

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Speaker 2: Freddy Fever run around.

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Speaker 5: Going back to Stephen Holder of that twenty nineteen Colts,

456
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Speaker 5: I would agree wholeheartedly. This is much different. It was

457
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Speaker 5: Survive in advance almost twenty nineteen. Jacoby Brissette was playing.

458
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Speaker 5: I just called Jacoby Brissette football. You had the weird

459
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Speaker 5: like adamanitary, like what's left and where is he at?

460
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Speaker 5: From a health standpoint? I mean, they were winning. They

461
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Speaker 5: were the cardiac cults. They were winning one score games

462
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Speaker 5: like none other. And you know, really Jacoby got hurt

463
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Speaker 5: against the Steelers when Cameron Hayward kind of took Quentin

464
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Speaker 5: Nelson back into him, and that led to Brian Hoyer

465
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Speaker 5: finishing that game and then starting the next week lost loss,

466
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Speaker 5: and then it just kind of unraveled once Jacoby got

467
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Speaker 5: back in the lineup. I want to say they lost

468
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Speaker 5: five of their last six. I don't envision now. Of

469
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Speaker 5: course that quarterback injury did impact some things. I don't

470
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Speaker 5: envision that. Like if you told me right now, like

471
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Speaker 5: how is the Colts offense going to be stopped soon?

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Speaker 9: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there was an easy answer. Their balance

474
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Speaker 5: is unbelievable right now. I mean, I guess the NFL

475
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Speaker 5: always humbles you, and you know, health could derail, But

476
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Speaker 5: right now, it's just hard to argue a healthy Colts

477
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Speaker 5: offense all of a sudden falling off a cliff given

478
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Speaker 5: the nature Like Moley Cox is on that team, James,

479
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Speaker 5: and you know he's saying, you know, hey, we're blowing

480
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Speaker 5: teams out. Now, that's different than what we did in

481
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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely coming up.

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Speaker 1: At a moment, the man in charge of IU Athletics

484
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Speaker 1: stops by, Scott Dolson, will spend some time with us

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Speaker 1: here on the Face Morning Show. It's a Wednesday morning

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Speaker 1: at ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: As the sun comes up, we see the rise of

489
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Speaker 1: Indiana football at the same time, and they are sitting

490
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Speaker 1: there at number two in both the AP and Coaches

491
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Speaker 1: poll in college football, and they've got UCLA and another

492
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Speaker 1: home game coming up. This weekend, and all things seem

493
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Speaker 1: to be pointing up the arrows going in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: We bring in our next guest to tell us a

495
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Speaker 1: little bit more about how this is all happening and

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Speaker 1: how it's being built. Scott Dolson is the athletic director

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Speaker 1: over at Indiana University, and he is on the Paylesslikers

498
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Speaker 1: hotline this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Scott.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be fun to wake up with with

501
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Speaker 1: just the who's your mentality these days?

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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, and yeah, it's definitely been super exciting

503
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Speaker 8: and can't wait to get back on the field this

504
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Speaker 8: Saturday and keep it rolling.

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Speaker 5: Scott, I was hoping and appreciate the time. I hoping

506
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Speaker 5: you can take us back a couple weeks ago to

507
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Speaker 5: you walking into Kurtzignetti's office and saying, you know what

508
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Speaker 5: I feel like, now is the time for a contract extension.

509
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Speaker 5: How much of that did you view? The win over Oregon?

510
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Speaker 5: How much of it did you view? There are some

511
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Speaker 5: openings around college football if you don't mind, could you

512
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Speaker 5: walk us through that?

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Speaker 8: Sure, it really was a you know, kind of a

514
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Speaker 8: comprehensive look at our program and all that with day

515
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Speaker 8: and then it obviously we gave him a contract extension

516
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Speaker 8: last year, but give him the start this year. Kind

517
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Speaker 8: of where we are where a college football landscape is.

518
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Speaker 8: We really wanted him to feel commitment to him, but

519
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Speaker 8: also a commitment to football. And you know, basically that

520
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Speaker 8: was our conversation. And one of the things that was

521
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Speaker 8: super important to us as well, is that we didn't

522
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Speaker 8: want him to feel that just because he signed a

523
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Speaker 8: new deal last year. You know, we know he and

524
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Speaker 8: his wife Minette love it here, the family loves it.

525
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Speaker 8: We didn't want him to feel we take him for

526
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Speaker 8: granted because what he's doing here is really really special

527
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Speaker 8: and we feel like we're just getting started. So all

528
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Speaker 8: those things were important to us, and and I know

529
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Speaker 8: he appreciated it, and it was a great process, just

530
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Speaker 8: like it was last year, and feel really really confident

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Speaker 8: and tinue to build what we're building.

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Speaker 5: You've described him as a unicorn. Could you kind of

533
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Speaker 5: expand on that word.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and only what I meant by that is he's

535
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Speaker 8: just obviously he's very unique. You know, when we had

536
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Speaker 8: the hiring process, we put together a list of all

537
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Speaker 8: the qualities and a head coach that we felt would

538
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Speaker 8: put us in the best position to have consistent success

539
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Speaker 8: with that program. Things like we wanted an existing head coach,

540
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Speaker 8: someone who had won consistently. We wanted someone had staff continuity,

541
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Speaker 8: real consistency of staff, where someone was a quarterback kind

542
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Speaker 8: of offensive guru. We wanted someone been a recruiting coordinator.

543
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Speaker 8: So all those things are reporting and coach seek checked

544
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Speaker 8: every box. But in addition to that, why I think

545
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Speaker 8: he's so special is the first time I talked to him,

546
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Speaker 8: he just has this unique personality, this unique drive focus

547
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Speaker 8: that when you combine that with all of his skill set,

548
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Speaker 8: he is just a what we felt was a perfect

549
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Speaker 8: fit for us. But also you know, we wouldn't trade

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Speaker 8: him for anybody. He just really I think, highly highly

551
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Speaker 8: skilled head coach and understands the business of college football.

552
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Speaker 8: He just checks every box and just as you could tell,

553
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Speaker 8: we absolutely are thrilled that he's a part of OU

554
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Speaker 8: family and going to be for a long long time.

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Speaker 6: Scott James Boyd here, I'm an Illinois alum, so I

556
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Speaker 6: am convinced that IU football is back, baby, because I

557
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Speaker 6: saw the fifty three point ft down for a few

558
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Speaker 6: weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was wearing candy striped pants because of

560
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Speaker 4: that loss, so I got you know, I had to,

561
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Speaker 4: I had to eat some crow there.

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Speaker 6: But when you look at you know what this program

563
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Speaker 6: is able to do the last two years under coach Signetti,

564
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Speaker 6: just two losses, and those two losses were are two

565
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Speaker 6: teams competed for national championship last year?

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Speaker 4: Has this gone better than even you might have expected?

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Speaker 8: You know, first of all, James Illinois is a great

568
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Speaker 8: program as well, and have a ton of respect for

569
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Speaker 8: ad Josh Whitman and certainly coach Beliema and things that

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Speaker 8: they're doing there. We studied Illinois when we when we

571
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Speaker 8: hired coach sig we looked at programs that we felt

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Speaker 8: we could compare to, you know, programs around the country.

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Speaker 8: So we have a lot of respect for Illinois. But

574
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Speaker 8: but yeah, we really this has happened. Probably you dream

575
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Speaker 8: about stuff like this. There's no way I would lose

576
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Speaker 8: all credibility if I tell you that. I imagine that

577
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Speaker 8: we'd be eighteen to two in our first twenty games.

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Speaker 8: You know, I thought we would you know, continue to improve,

579
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Speaker 8: and I thought that we had a chance to be

580
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Speaker 8: to be good last year. But now this has been

581
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Speaker 8: you know, above and beyond all expectations. Ultimately, this is

582
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Speaker 8: where we wanted to get to tool we're competing nationally

583
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Speaker 8: at a high level. But like I said, if I

584
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Speaker 8: have told you, you know, the day of the press

585
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Speaker 8: conference and the day we hired Coach Sigg, that we'd

586
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Speaker 8: be eighteen to two, like I said, you wouldroll your

587
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 8: eyes and there's no way you could think that. So yeah,

588
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Speaker 8: but with Coach Sig and just how he works his plan,

589
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Speaker 8: his blueprint, the way he is, you know it really

590
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Speaker 8: and again this isn't a company line. This sounds like

591
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Speaker 8: it it is, but I'll be honest with you, James,

592
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 8: we feel like you know, it's really a one day

593
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Speaker 8: at a time focus on on the plan. That's where

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Speaker 8: we are in the department. That's way coached Sig works.

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Speaker 8: That's where I grew up under Coach Knight, honestly working

596
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Speaker 8: as a manager for him. And you know, we don't think,

597
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 8: with the smartest people in the room, that we've got

598
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Speaker 8: all us figured out. We think we just got a plan.

599
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Speaker 8: We have to really work that plan, adjust, adapt, continue

600
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Speaker 8: to try to improve what we can. And you know

601
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Speaker 8: our opponent is now UCLA and that game plan and

602
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Speaker 8: we just got to stick to that.

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Speaker 6: So you talk about adjusting and adapting, and you look

604
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Speaker 6: at the Lancaale COLLG football. These days, you constantly have

605
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Speaker 6: to retoll your roster and one of the best ways

606
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Speaker 6: to do that is to transfer a portal. And you

607
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Speaker 6: look at last year's roster, which was a great team,

608
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Speaker 6: and this year's team with the addition of Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 6: What has it been like getting him acclimated to the

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Speaker 6: IU program. What do you think he's brought to the

611
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Speaker 6: most importantsition in the sport.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Fernando has been amazing, first of all off the field,

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Speaker 8: and you could probably tell in his interviews he's one

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Speaker 8: of the more Uh just I love him. We've had Yeah,

615
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 8: we've had some you know, we have great kids, but

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Speaker 8: we've never had any anyone any better than Fernande. He's

617
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Speaker 8: just a wonderful young man. And I sound old when

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Speaker 8: I say that. He just I really enjoyed my lunch

619
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Speaker 8: with he and al Berdo late in the summer and

620
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Speaker 8: it was just it's amazing, like their old friends. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he's just great people, great family. So he's been he's

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Speaker 8: adjusted really well. But in addition to that on the field,

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Speaker 8: just to fit with coach Sigg the way Coach Sig

624
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Speaker 8: develops quarterbacks. You know, back to when we hired Coach Sig,

625
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Speaker 8: that was a really big important part of the process,

626
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Speaker 8: so that that position, as you said, it's such a

627
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Speaker 8: key position, and you know, his development here I think

628
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Speaker 8: speaks volumes for our program and also speaks volumes for

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Speaker 8: the work that he puts in. You know, every day.

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Speaker 8: I've heard Coach Sigg say that's publicly multiple times that

631
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Speaker 8: he's never been around someone who works at it is

632
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Speaker 8: hard or or no one's ever worked any harder than

633
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Speaker 8: he has. And he continues to extra time. I know

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Speaker 8: this summer in June, in July, Fernando and Alberta would

635
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Speaker 8: come into the office in the afternoons and watch film

636
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Speaker 8: and continue to just work on the mental side of

637
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Speaker 8: being a quarterback. And those things pay dividends. So we're

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Speaker 8: thrilled to have him here, thrill to that Alberto here

639
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Speaker 8: as well, and look forward to the future and just

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Speaker 8: watching him develop, it's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: He's the athletic director at Indiana University and the architect

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Speaker 1: of helping to build this athletic program into what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing right now. And we'll talk about the new basketball

644
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Speaker 1: coach in a second. But in this day and age

645
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Speaker 1: of big money and on everything else that goes on,

646
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Speaker 1: I feel that India's positioned well to compete in that environment,

647
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Speaker 1: being in the Big ten, some terrific alumni and boosters

648
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Speaker 1: things like that. How would you describe the position that

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Speaker 1: IU is in to compete moving forward with the biggest

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Speaker 1: programs in the country.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's a it's a it's a it's a

652
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Speaker 8: daily work in progress and a commitment. And I agree

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Speaker 8: with you in terms of you know, I think you know,

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Speaker 8: you hear this word alignment a lot, and I think

655
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 8: we're positioned. You know, I could go back to when

656
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 8: Praig Glass was AD and I was deputy a d

657
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 8: and he did so much work on our facility end,

658
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 8: and that helps kind of lead us into this new

659
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 8: transformational time in college athletics. And President Whitten has been

660
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 8: massive in terms of when she arrived, and she really

661
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 8: was committed in our first meeting, you know, she said,

662
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 8: we need to build a winning football program here and

663
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 8: to have that support from the top is really really big.

664
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Speaker 8: And then ultimately to put together a vision for how

665
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Speaker 8: to compete in this new world. And you know, with

666
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 8: hiring coach sig now Darren Debreez, making certain that we've

667
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 8: got the infrastructure around him. There's so many unsung heroes

668
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 8: that we would not be here today in a position

669
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 8: to compete and go into this game Saturday if it

670
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 8: weren't for there's a guyned Pete Yakman, and Pete behind

671
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 8: the scenes is a volunteer for us that has helped

672
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 8: with our collective and helps really create a vision for

673
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 8: we can compete in il wives in this new world.

674
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 8: You know, play we were given, these new cards, were dealt.

675
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 8: How do we play them within the rules the best

676
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 8: we can? And then certainly our alumni base. I can't,

677
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 8: I could. I could ramble for an hour about the

678
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 8: amount of people who and it doesn't matter. There's big donors,

679
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 8: there's small donors. There's people all across the board that

680
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 8: have supported us and then gotten behind our vision to

681
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 8: build our athletic program. And then specifically, you know, we're

682
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 8: talking about football, but that yeah, like I said, I'm

683
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 8: kind of rambling on it that it's it's so meaningful

684
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 8: to me having been here in a long time to

685
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 8: see our fans step up in the way they do

686
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 8: and uh, we couldn't. This isn't the company line either,

687
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 8: but we couldn't have the success we're having if all

688
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 8: the things I just listed, including and probably most importantly,

689
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 8: the fans support the people who stepped up from an

690
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 8: NIL perspective, we wouldn't be competing and enjoying the fun

691
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 8: times that we are without that support.

692
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 5: The boys of Scott Nelsen again the ady down there

693
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: in Bloomington, as he has said, noon coming up, big

694
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: noon kickoff coming up Saturday against UCLA basketball team will

695
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 5: be up here in the state Capitol taking on Baylor

696
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: and exhibition game on Sunday. I think you kind of

697
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: were hitting on it there, Scott, But to go a

698
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: little further, I was listening to kurtz Ignatty. I forget

699
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 5: which interview was a couple of weeks back, but he

700
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: mentioned how, you know, he feels like some donors within

701
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: whatever university athletically have started to now dip their toes

702
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: across the parking lot, if you will, and maybe shift

703
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 5: or add their contributions towards the football program. How have

704
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: you seen that backing from a financial sense, Yeah, you know, I.

705
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 8: Think it's been It's been fantastic, and I think that

706
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 8: where you know, I grew up working with donors. I've

707
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 8: been you know, I was hired thirty five years ago

708
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 8: to an entry level fundraiser in the athletic department. So

709
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 8: I kind of feel like I've lived in that world.

710
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 8: And you know what, what you find out is that

711
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 8: you know, support and donors who step up. They like

712
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 8: to believe in and trust in the in the process

713
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 8: and in the vision that we have. You know, if

714
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 8: you show them a plan and they really believe in that,

715
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 8: people will step up. And so certainly, as we had

716
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 8: a plan for football, we have a plan for basketball,

717
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 8: as we're working on just our entire athletic program, I

718
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 8: think that momentum is really you know, gaining more and

719
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 8: more support. And you know, our alumni base is the

720
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 8: largest in the country. Is you know, just from your

721
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 8: show being based on Indianapolis, you guys know that, you know,

722
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 8: there's au people everywhere and they just want to have

723
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 8: hope and believe in the plan. And so again, we

724
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 8: would not be here today if it weren't for that support.

725
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 8: And that's not it's not something extra, it's not something that, hey,

726
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 8: what would be great if we get some extra gifts

727
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 8: we can do some different things. Literally, this support has

728
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 8: enabled us to help build this program to enable co

729
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 8: SIG to have the resources to compete again with the

730
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 8: highest levels with the teams around the co true that

731
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 8: we need to compete with. So yeah, it's been really

732
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 8: exciting and I can't thank our fans our supporters enough

733
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 8: for joining us on this mission to make certain that

734
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 8: we can compete at highest levels a year in, year.

735
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 5: Out, Scott last one for me, and we certainly appreciate

736
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 5: your time during a busy fall calendar transition into the

737
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 5: winter season. But you know, revenue share and how athletic

738
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 5: departments and universities will divide that up has been a

739
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: huge topic across the landscape of college sports. For you guys, football,

740
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 5: men's basketball, How do you view how that will be

741
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 5: divvied up from a revenue share?

742
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, what we do, and we're really consistent with the

743
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 8: way other schools, particularly in our league. You know, we

744
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 8: can't really because of we can't compare each other's numbers

745
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 8: because of the anti trust violation. But basically I kind

746
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 8: of have a feel for how everyone is doing it,

747
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 8: not just in the big tend around the country, and

748
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 8: we follow the revenue generated in the support in the sport,

749
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 8: and then and then also try to figure out what

750
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 8: is the market place out there. So we're following that, uh,

751
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 8: you know, kind of consistent and it doesn't take a

752
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 8: rocket sciences to figure out that football is number one

753
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 8: certainly in that in that distribution, and then's basketball and

754
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 8: certainly women's basketball following that, and then we sprinkled around

755
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 8: in other areas as well. But again to compete, you

756
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 8: have to make certain you know what the marketplace is

757
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 8: in the ability knowing that you just you hear different things,

758
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 8: you know, not exactly always what to believe and what

759
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 8: you hear what's out there in the market. But I

760
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 8: feel like we're doing everything we can. Back to what

761
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 8: I said earlier about the support you receive, you know,

762
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 8: with with us yours, Cannects, Pete Young and then people

763
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 8: supported our nil first. You know, it's all about being

764
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 8: able to compete in the marketplace. And and I will

765
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 8: add one of the things I think it's it's really

766
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 8: important that you know it. Certainly money talks and you

767
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 8: have to have the resources to compete. But at the

768
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 8: same time, both coach Sig Darren Terry Moore, you know,

769
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 8: we want to make certain that the student athletes that

770
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 8: were bringing in understand the balance that they you know,

771
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 8: are student, they still in a class, they still want

772
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 8: to develop in every way. And again that sounds like

773
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 8: I have to say that as a company line, but

774
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 8: I really mean that in the locker room is really important.

775
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 8: And just like Fernando windows that we talked about, you know,

776
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 8: we want kids that represent how you and that certainly

777
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 8: can maximize their nil revs share all that. You know,

778
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 8: we're all in on that, but at the same time

779
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 8: they're developing as a person and we're really proud of

780
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 8: our coaches recruit as well in that area.

781
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what, Scott again, as the Illinois

782
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: alum on the show, if you know, you ever want

783
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 6: to mess up the recruiting a little bit and some

784
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 6: some of those guys over to Illinois, I'll be gladly appreciated.

785
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 6: But on the more serious no, the last thing I

786
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 6: have for you before we let you go basketball. We

787
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 6: know are you fans and like most fan bases, you're

788
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: gonna be greedy.

789
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: You know, football's back, they're Roland.

790
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 6: We're now we're looking at men's basketball credits and the

791
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 6: women's program for being great last few years as well.

792
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 6: But men's basketball, why was daring to vreize the right

793
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 6: choice and what do you expect from him in that

794
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 6: unit in year one, knowing the rich history that you

795
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 6: have you all have in men's basketball.

796
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, Darren, it's you know, very similar to the coach

797
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 8: Signette hiring in terms of, you know, check the boxes

798
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 8: of the key areas that we were looking for. Uh,

799
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 8: you know, we wanted someone that had, uh, you know,

800
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 8: modern offense that that young men want to play in

801
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 8: and you look out college basketball is developing. We wanted

802
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 8: to make certain they have that. But at the same time,

803
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 8: we want a head coach that had really old school

804
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 8: Indiana defense, plays super hard and just drew it, just

805
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 8: really competes. And and then in addition to that, you know, Darren,

806
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 8: we wanted to know we look at the person in

807
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 8: terms of we want him to certainly fit in one

808
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 8: of the head coach that really had the personality that

809
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 8: really would be embraced here with our fan base and

810
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 8: with our community. And Darren checked the game like coaching,

811
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 8: checked every box not only from a coaching standpoint, but

812
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 8: just the way he fits with us and really excited

813
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 8: about him. And in terms of expectations. You know, I

814
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 8: just really want our fan base to just see it

815
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 8: and understand that that's what Indiana basketball is all about,

816
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 8: the way we play, and that sounds it's easy to say,

817
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 8: but it's kind of it's kind of hard to explain.

818
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 8: But I really want our fans as we come out

819
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 8: on the court, and I think you could already feel

820
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 8: it last week and our exhibition yet gets married that

821
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 8: our fans trust the process and see that that we

822
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 8: play super hard, intense, love our effort, our defense, love

823
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 8: our shooting because we've grown up with shooters in the

824
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 8: state of Indiana, and just really proud of our program

825
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 8: and have a lot of hope for the future. And

826
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 8: I'm confident that that'll happen.

827
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: Last thing for me, Scott.

828
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just football and men's basketball, but

829
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: things are rolling down there. I know that people are

830
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: excited about the volleyball team this year. Women's basketball is

831
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: always playing well. I found myself a true story, found

832
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: myself watching Indiana Wisconsin soccer for a few minutes last

833
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: night and I think the Hoosias were beating up on

834
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: like four to nothing at the time. What how, what's

835
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: your overall feeling about the health of the athletic department

836
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: in general right now.

837
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel really I feel great. You know, I

838
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 8: feel like we've got a great, slight slate of coaches

839
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 8: that are really across the board, you know, competing and

840
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 8: developing our young men and young women. You know, I

841
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 8: feel like, you know, we talk about winning a lot

842
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 8: in our department, and uh, we embrace that and talk

843
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 8: about the process of winning across the board, not just

844
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 8: with football and the house students basketball, but you know,

845
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 8: it could go on and on with you know, our

846
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 8: swimming program. It's kind of that hidden gem in some

847
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 8: ways that you know, we can compete. Last year we

848
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 8: finished third in the country and the men and fourth

849
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 8: and the women, and I think we've got a chance

850
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 8: to keep going from there. And and when we talk

851
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 8: about winning, it's not just because it's pretty good of

852
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 8: old IU, which it is, but we really feel like

853
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 8: if we want to maximize the experience for our student

854
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 8: athletes in every way, winning is a big, big part

855
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 8: of that. And and the more we talk about it,

856
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 8: the more the more I think our studentatics feel that's

857
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 8: part of our culture that we know we play to win,

858
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 8: and it's okay to say that, and as we do

859
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 8: exit interviews with our student athletes, this isn't a revelation,

860
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 8: but the student athletes who had a chance to compete

861
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 8: for big games and win championships or be able to

862
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 8: really compete at a high level, their experience is so

863
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 8: much better. So winning is a big part of our

864
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 8: culture and something that you know. I'm not a big

865
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 8: I'm talking a lot on this show. It's early in

866
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 8: the morning, late night after the big chen ad meetings

867
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 8: did last two days, but it really we just want

868
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 8: to do the work and it's a process. So I

869
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Speaker 8: don't like to over I like to underpromise and over deliver.

870
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 8: I don't like to be a big talker, but we

871
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 8: really winning is super important to us for our student athletes.

872
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Speaker 1: Scott, thanks for your time today. We appreciate the opportunity

873
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: to have a chat with you. Continued success throughout the

874
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: rest of the school year and we'll talk to you

875
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: again soon.

876
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Speaker 8: Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

877
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Speaker 2: Thank you Scott.

878
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Speaker 1: As you were listening to the Fan Morning Show and

879
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Speaker 1: ninety and one.

880
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, thanks for listening to us.

881
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: However you may be choosing to listen this morning, We'll

882
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: get to all that coming up in a minute. Had

883
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: a terrific conversation with IU Athletic director Scott Dolson just

884
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: a moment ago, and we talk more to college football

885
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: right now, because why not. You got the number two

886
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: ranked team in the country both in the AP pole

887
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: and the coaches pol with the Hoosiers. Pat Forty is

888
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: always fun to read. He's always informational, he's always insightful.

889
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: He writes at Sports Illustrated and he joins us now

890
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: in the Payless Lickers hot line. Good morning, in the

891
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: middle of the college football season, Pat Forty, it's got

892
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: to be heaven for you right now.

893
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 7: All we're ripping and running good times. Yes, sir, happy

894
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 7: to be on with.

895
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: You, well, happy to have you.

896
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Scott Dolson just a moment ago from IU,

897
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: and we're talking about Kurtzignetti and what he's done and

898
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: the brand new contract. And it's interesting. I had seen

899
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: one of your most recent columns was about what's Penn

900
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: State going to do as they try to replace James Franklin,

901
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting that in this ear

902
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: and how where we're firing coaches five or six games

903
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: into the season, that IU was very proactive in making

904
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: sure that they didn't let Kurtzignetti get away. Were you

905
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: surprised at all that it took them about three days

906
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: to figure that out?

907
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 7: That was really fast. I mean, that was impressive. I

908
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 7: will say I think several elements go into play there. One,

909
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 7: you could kind of see the Franklin thing coming for

910
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks. Is that very rapidly fell apart.

911
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 7: And secondly, you know Scott Dolson and his people, they're

912
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 7: not stupid. They know they have the hottest coach in

913
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 7: the country and the best coach in the country right now,

914
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 7: and you know, we've got to do what we got

915
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 7: to do to step up there. I think from the

916
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 7: minute they crushed Illinois, it was like, Okay, people are

917
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 7: going to start coming after him even more than they

918
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 7: did last year. Let's be ready when that time comes.

919
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 7: And the second element of that is a Indiana has

920
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 7: something to sell now and be you got a coach

921
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 7: who to be there. You know, I think Signetti was

922
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 7: genuinely appreciative of the fact that at sixty two, after

923
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 7: winning relentlessly for a decade or more, Indiana stepped up

924
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 7: and did and took him. You know and gave him

925
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 7: that shot that he'd wanted to have, that he knew

926
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 7: he could capitalize on. And so I was like, yeah,

927
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 7: you know what, this has been a good relationship.

928
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 8: You took a.

929
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 7: Chance on me. I took a chance on you. Let's

930
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Speaker 7: keep it going.

931
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 5: Pat, you you live close enough to Bloomington and certainly

932
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 5: have followed the program I guess from Afar, but not

933
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 5: that far away for years. So I think you could

934
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: maybe speak to this. When Kurtz Signetti said last year,

935
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: you know, before the Ohio State game, we you know,

936
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm at an emerging superpower in college football.

937
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people just laughed at that statement.

938
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: But given the landscape of college football, is he kind

939
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: of right of like, you know, the alumni base and

940
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: the big ten arms race, and you know the potential

941
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 5: that's there from you know, what donors could do if

942
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 5: they go across the parking lot from basketball to foot ball.

943
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: You know, is there a little bit of truth to that?

944
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 8: Well?

945
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 7: Sure, I would say this. I would say everyone is

946
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 7: an emerging superpower in this era.

947
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 9: The that seriously you you throw?

948
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 7: Sure you throw to get Did TCU play for a

949
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 7: national championship? A couple of years ago. Was that SMU

950
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 7: in the playoff last year?

951
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 8: Yeah?

952
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. But uh, you throw you throw

953
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 7: together enough money, and you get the right coach and

954
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 7: you get the right group of players, you can have

955
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 7: a run. Now what is a run one year, two years?

956
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 7: I don't know. Uh, but could Indiana sustain it? Theoretically yes,

957
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 7: and and the reasons he mentioned are certainly important. Big

958
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 7: ten membership helps. It helps to be in the Big

959
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 7: ten of the SEC more than the SEC or ACC

960
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 7: or Big twelve. And then a massive alumni base helps.

961
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 7: And if you get the manergize, which we've and I

962
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 7: mean you guys have been around you know this. I've

963
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 7: been going to the Indiana Games for thirty five years.

964
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 7: The level of apathy was incredible. But it's one of

965
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: those things where you just give them something and that

966
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 7: can turn around in a hurry, and you got all

967
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 7: this pent up excitement and probably pent up donor money

968
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 7: that now can be activated and put to use. The

969
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 7: only thing Indiana doesn't have, and it's less important than

970
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 7: it used to be, is sitting in like Georgia, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

971
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 7: There's good players in the state of Indiana, but there's

972
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 7: not the same number, but that matters less now in

973
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 7: a portal era and when players are much more mobile

974
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 7: and less hesitant to go far away from home.

975
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: Pat forty again joining us here on the Pailsica's hot line,

976
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 6: the senior writer at Sports Illustrated. Pat talked about transportal

977
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 6: just there recently. But when you look at what frandom

978
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 6: and was able to do with that quarterback position, what

979
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 6: has been your impression of what he's brought to this

980
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 6: program considering that last year they had a good, really

981
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 6: good college quarterback and Curtis Rourke, and then now I

982
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 6: feel like they've upgraded.

983
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 7: Oh, they've definitely upgraded. Mendoz is fantastic. I think the

984
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 7: NFL has to be very interested in him. He's got size,

985
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 7: he's got intelligence, he's got an arm, he's quick and

986
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 7: decisive for the most part, and he's really accurate. You know,

987
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 7: probably needs to show a little more downfield for them,

988
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 7: But from a college standpoint, he's outstanding. And I think

989
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 7: he's been put into a great offense with really good receivers,

990
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 7: by the way, who don't drop anything. I mean every

991
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 7: time I see them, they catch all the passes, even

992
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 7: the hard ones. So it's a great setup in great situation.

993
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 7: I saw Mendoza last year at call and really liked

994
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 7: him and thought Indiana was getting an upgrade. Curtis Rourke

995
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 7: was good last year, but in the games that it

996
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 7: really against the high level opponents, I thought he was

997
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 7: sometimes indecisive, sometimes confused, that the line of scrimmage, didn't

998
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 7: see blitzes and wasn't mobile. And I think those are

999
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 7: things that Mendozi is better at all of those and

1000
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 7: has a stronger arm. So he's phenomenal and he's right

1001
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 7: there at the top of the Heisman race.

1002
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Pat Forty joining us here on the Paylost Lickuers hotline

1003
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: this morning. Nice of him to stop by. I'll ask

1004
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: this question. We have a resident fan here, but I'm

1005
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: also interested in the in the program and a lot of

1006
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: fans here in Indianapolis. But after a slow start, here

1007
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: comes Marcus Freeman in Notre Dame. How good can they be?

1008
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think that's one of those teams that the

1009
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 7: rest of the country better not let into the playoffs

1010
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 7: because they may do what they did last year. You know,

1011
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 7: the start, they lost to very good teams and they

1012
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 7: lost one game by three points in one game by

1013
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 7: one point when they dropped an extra points snap. The

1014
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 7: defense wasn't very good at the beginning of the year.

1015
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: It still has some issues, but it's better and the

1016
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 7: offense is outstanding. I mean, Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Preiser,

1017
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 7: elite running backs.

1018
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 8: CJ.

1019
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 7: Cars played extremely well a quarterback. They've got some line

1020
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 7: injuries that are a bit problematic, but you know, I

1021
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 7: look at them and I look at their schedule, and

1022
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 7: if they get to ten and two, we'll see what

1023
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 7: the competition is, the lay of the land. You know,

1024
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 7: if you're a Notre Dame or a Notre Dame PAN,

1025
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 7: you got to be heartened watching the losses start to

1026
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 7: pile up elsewhere. And that's probably going to continue for

1027
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 7: the next five or six weeks. And the more teams lose,

1028
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 7: the better you're ten and two will look.

1029
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 8: Now.

1030
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 7: They I think need like USC to finish well, Navy

1031
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 7: to keep going, Pittsburgh to keep going, so that those

1032
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 7: games mean something and it's not just well, we lost

1033
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 7: to two good teams. You've got to have some good

1034
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 7: wins on the resume too.

1035
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 5: Pat last one for me, We really appreciate your time

1036
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: and a busy season I was fortunate to be at

1037
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: that Notre Dame Indiana playoff game last year. I think

1038
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 5: the campus atmosphere is just absolutely through the roof. Do

1039
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 5: you think we ever get a point, assuming the playoff

1040
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: sticks to the current format, which probably not, do you

1041
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 5: think we get to a point where the quarterfinal games

1042
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: would be on campus sites, the top four seeds would

1043
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 5: get a chance to host.

1044
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 7: I sure hope, so, you know, and I think as anticipated,

1045
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 7: a lot of those kind of schools looked last year

1046
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 7: and said we want some of that. We want that

1047
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 7: home game and that the home field advantage and the

1048
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 7: home atmosphere and everything that that brought. I mean at

1049
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 7: Notre Dame, at Texas, at Penn State, and even in

1050
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 7: Ohio State when half the fans wanted to mute me.

1051
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 7: I was there at that game. That was still a

1052
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 7: very raucous environment. So you know, I think it's good

1053
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 7: for the sport. The problem is, you know that it

1054
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 7: has been tied to the hip with the bowl industry forever,

1055
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 7: and undoing that tie is difficult. But I think especially look,

1056
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 7: if the playoff gets bigger, which I think, you know,

1057
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 7: if it gets bigger than sixteen, they've screwed it up,

1058
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 7: which is entirely possible. But the more games you play,

1059
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 7: the more expensive it is. Why not play some of

1060
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 7: those games at home and then keep your fans from

1061
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 7: having to try to travel to four different postseason games.

1062
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: Pat, great stuff. Always appreciate talking you. Thanks for getting

1063
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: up early this morning and being with us. Safe travels man.

1064
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon, Okay, my pleasure.

1065
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 8: Guys.

1066
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 7: Thank you,