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Speaker 2: It's a story for Indiana football, constant conclusion and the

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Speaker 2: national champions.

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Speaker 1: Of two thousand and twenty six.

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Speaker 2: What a football team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, iconic voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher with the

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Speaker 3: call I you winning it all? National football champions, Indiana

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Speaker 3: defeating Miami twenty seven to twenty one. I'm so happy

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Speaker 3: Being an IU fan for a long time. I didn't

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Speaker 3: My buddy, he's went there, going down to the football

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Speaker 3: What an awesome weekend.

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Speaker 1: And Fish is working tonight like there's no rest for

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Speaker 1: the weary Baby. He's an animal. Don Fisher stays up late,

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Speaker 1: WIBC for IU basketball.

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Speaker 3: Somehow, I don't see that turning out so well this

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Speaker 3: time for Who's your Sports? In terms of the basketball tonight,

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Speaker 1: Just doesn't seem real. They were the laughing stock of

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Speaker 1: And then you bring in coach Signetti and he's this

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Speaker 1: And last year they were really good. They make the

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Speaker 1: in the trenches, uses the portal, and man, that's what

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Speaker 1: and last night they capped off an incredible run. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes. Who listen. I don't like the U. I've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like they just swarmed IU every chance

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Speaker 1: IU played great. D I think the play that's going

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Speaker 1: They called the time out, they were going to kick

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Speaker 1: Radio network on that game winning interception against Carson Beck.

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Speaker 3: Beck looks, throws it down the field and it is

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Speaker 3: That had shades of Marlon Jackson in the AFC Championship

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Carson, go back to your five million dollar

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Speaker 1: Speaking in tongues last night.

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Speaker 3: She was completely totally sober too.

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Speaker 1: Like I want any team from Indiana that gets there

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Speaker 1: I wanted Purdue to be Connecticut. Now I'm a Tennessee

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Speaker 2: One away to finish this playoffs sixteen and oer the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six College Football National champions coach.

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Speaker 1: Turn Ignadian Indianas. If you keep your nose down in

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Speaker 1: Great Toper fans woo woo woo, wooh God, and the

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Speaker 7: If you thought the Indiana Hoosiers and their fans would

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Speaker 3: I's been Prophy winner for right here in Miami, DA

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Speaker 3: quarterback Fernando Mendoza pray dollars.

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Speaker 1: I see rich right, Perdue was not the little brother.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't won anything like You've been really, really,

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Speaker 1: You made a championship game, you didn't win it. And

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Speaker 3: Piggybacking on what you said about Purdue fans diehard Purdue fans.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate the hell out of that.

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Speaker 1: I get it, like I'm a Tennessee guy. You think

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's do it for the SEC. No, screw Alabama, man,

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Speaker 1: let's go now. Fernando Mendoza, he has been just perfect

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Speaker 1: for the Hoosiers. Golden boy, the golden Boy, the Heisman

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's no bad group of guys.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to the most Postmomi lives such a group

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Speaker 5: I love you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Do you blame him? Great job? Let's bleep and go

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Speaker 1: going to the Raiders. That's gonna be cringeworthy. Hey, Glass

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Speaker 1: Nigel Show. Nigel Show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I you beating Miami and the College Football National

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Speaker 3: Championship twenty seven twenty one was just a cap on

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Speaker 3: an awesome weekend for me. Hammer, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: That all started for us on Friday with a Red, White,

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Speaker 3: ninety six at Keystone Charity Party. We always throw this

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Speaker 4: whether you had that reasonable belief. But man, if there

436
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Speaker 4: were no weapons found and somebody just kicks the door

437
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Speaker 4: open and you start shooting shots, that would be a

438
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Speaker 4: tough case to defend it. It's possible to defend it,

439
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: but all comes down to that reasonable belief.

440
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go to jail. I'll be honest with you.

441
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Speaker 3: If some beat nick like that bearded psycho starts screaming

442
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Speaker 3: in my kids and intimidating them and making them cry,

443
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: what would be the punishment here in Indiana? If I

444
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Speaker 3: just throat punch the guy? Seriously, Like these cowards would

445
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: never do that in a mosque. I'd like to see

446
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Speaker 3: you do it in a church like the one I

447
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: go to. It's a problem. And if somebody gets in

448
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: my kid's face and starts screaming at them, I don't know.

449
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Speaker 1: What they're liable to do next.

450
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Speaker 3: They're getting a throat punch, Lindsey, get the bail money ready?

451
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Speaker 1: What is the penalty?

452
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Speaker 9: What you know?

453
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming if it happens in Indianapolis, I'm automatically going

454
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Speaker 3: to go to jail and Merors is gonna throw the

455
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Speaker 3: book at me. What is What are the possible consequences

456
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Speaker 3: of just you know, a basic simple punch to the

457
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Speaker 3: face to get my kids safe and out of harm's way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, battery without any injury is just is just

459
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Speaker 4: a be misdemeanor. So that's you know, that'd be like

460
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Speaker 4: one hundred eight days of probation. You can theoretically do

461
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Speaker 4: jail time. But if no criminal history, you wouldn't do

462
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Speaker 4: any jail time, So be misdemeaning. Now, battery with injury.

463
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Speaker 4: If the cop says to the quote unquote victim, did

464
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 4: it hurt when Nigel, you know, shoved you in the face.

465
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it hurt. Now you got an a misdemeanor

466
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Speaker 4: because it's battery with injury. Let's say you go ahead

467
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Speaker 4: and put the you know, put a nice punch into

468
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Speaker 4: this guy's face and knocked a couple of teeth out. Well,

469
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 4: now you've got battery with serious bodil of injury. Potentially,

470
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Speaker 4: Now you're getting up into the felonies where you could

471
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Speaker 4: do some gale time and you know, lose your two

472
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Speaker 4: A rights and have the other ramifications associated with a felony.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think cooler heads would prevail on my part.

474
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Speaker 1: I just don't know. I've never been in that situation. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: I would bail you out if you did that. Like you,

476
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Speaker 1: I've got bail money set aside for myself. But if

477
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Speaker 1: you throw punch that hippie, I'm in. I got you

478
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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 10: Hey.

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Speaker 4: No, And when and when and when people are screaming

481
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Speaker 4: and yelling and making your kid cry, I mean, how

482
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Speaker 4: unreasonable are you in thinking they're about to go to

483
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Speaker 4: the next step that's are physically injuring people? And if so,

484
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Speaker 4: if you again have that reasonable belief that you're preventing

485
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Speaker 4: unlawful injury to someone else or physical harm. Now okay,

486
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: now punches are justified, but that comes down to that

487
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: reasonable belief, just like the he's a deadly force, reasonable

488
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Speaker 4: force to prevent some other level of harm below serious

489
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Speaker 4: bodily injury. Just comes down to that reasonable belief. And

490
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Speaker 4: you know, a group of people come in, they're threatening,

491
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Speaker 4: they're loud, your kids crying. I got to believe that

492
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 4: a lot of jurors would have would have a pretty

493
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Speaker 4: easy time finding that you were justified and knocking a

494
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Speaker 4: tooth out or two.

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Speaker 1: Guy, we got about one minute left here. I want

496
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Speaker 1: to get your opinion on this Supreme Court nine to

497
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Speaker 1: zer ruling in regards to police and how they handle

498
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Speaker 1: red flag cases.

499
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Speaker 4: Yes, his case versus Montana, And it's interesting it wasn't

500
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: necessarily a red flagcase in Montana. It was just a

501
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: welfare check. A girlfriend ex girlfriend called police and said,

502
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Speaker 4: I think my ex boyfriend suicidal, he has guns, he's

503
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Speaker 4: in his house. Please go to his house without a warrant.

504
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 4: They ended up up going into his house without a warrant.

505
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 4: They see him in a closet, they think he may

506
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: have a gun. They shoot him, wound him, they didn't

507
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: kill him, and later on he's arrested for battery on

508
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Speaker 4: an officer. And the question came down to whether the

509
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: entry into the house was constitutional because they did not

510
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: have a warrant, and in a nine to nothing decision,

511
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 4: and this surprised me, this was nine to nothing. The

512
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: Supreme Court said, well, to do a welfare check, if

513
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Speaker 4: you have simply an objectively reasonable basis to believe that's

514
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: the standard that they threw out there. If police have

515
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: an objectively reasonable basis to believe that you're either in

516
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: need of assistance immediately or that you're about to hurt

517
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: yourself and commit suicide in this case, then they can

518
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: go into your house. Without a warrant. And a lot

519
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: of us looked at that and said, WHOA, the Fourth

520
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: Amendment just took a hit here, because that's, for instance,

521
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: that's not probable cause it's a lower standard, objectively reasoned

522
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: basis to believe that you're in danger in need of

523
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Speaker 4: a meetia assistance. Now suddenly they can kick my door

524
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: in without a warrant.

525
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Speaker 9: Uh.

526
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: That makes a lot of us nervous, But that's exactly

527
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: what the Supreme Court ruled.

528
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Speaker 1: Guy. If somebody wants to reach out to you, if

529
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: they've got a question, if they want to hire you,

530
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: how can they find you?

531
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Speaker 5: Boy?

532
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: The website is Relfred Law dot com. There's a way

533
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: to contact us. The phone numbers right there. It's Relford

534
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Speaker 4: Law dot com.

535
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Guy, you're the best, My friends, Safe travels. We'll do

536
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: it again next week.

537
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

538
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hammer and Nigel. Do

539
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: you believe these characters are weird of us?

540
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty simple.

541
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Speaker 4: I believe in that.

542
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Speaker 2: Good twenty twenty six th football National champions.

543
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: It produced shacks. Oh, I love it, I love it?

544
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: Are you college.

545
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: Football Hoosiers National Championship winners? How many babies are going

546
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: to be born nine months from now, and how many

547
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: will be named Fernando right right, or Kurt or Signetti

548
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: or a combination of all three?

549
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: Little baby Signetti Signetti Laskowski running around the house. But

550
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 1: I do think, especially if you're an IU fan, you're

551
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna see a baby boom here in about nine months.

552
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Remember when the Colts finally broke through. It feels like,

553
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, nine months later. Yes, a lot of people

554
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: we are dropping shorties. And if you watch sports on television,

555
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: we went through an era where like every kid playing

556
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: high school football's named was Peyton spelled p e y

557
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: t o. In it happens, man, it comes at you

558
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: pretty quick.

559
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: Were a great night last night, I mean a day night,

560
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: a weekend for us. It started with Red, White and

561
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: Bowl on Saturday, just a tremendous charity events. Friday night,

562
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Friday night, I'm sorry, and then capping it

563
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: all off last night with the championship game. So I

564
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: don't care what sports team it is for Indiana. I've

565
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: always been an IU fan, mainly basketball because IU football

566
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: hasn't been worth a crap, But the past two years

567
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: have been so interesting to watch man, Yes, just culminating

568
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: last night, and I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I will always root for an Indiana team. I don't

570
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: care in the championship game, yep. I wanted Butler to

571
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: win those games. I wanted Purdue to beat you, Yukon.

572
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: I wanted Notre Dame to win those games. And last

573
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: night there's been a lot of losses in those championship games.

574
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: We just rattled off. Yes, the Hoosiers finally got to win. Man,

575
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: they kind of broke this bad luck string of Indiana

576
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: teams making the championship and losing, and they are the

577
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Speaker 1: national champions and the teams they beat along the way,

578
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: It's not like they backdoored their way into this thing

579
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: twice Ohio State and the Big Ten Championship. Yes, throttling

580
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Alabama and then beating the U in Miami. Their reward

581
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: for the National Championship was a road game in essence,

582
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Speaker 1: Although Hoo's your fans were about seventy percent of that

583
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: crowd last night, and we're going to talk to one

584
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Speaker 1: of them coming up here a little bit after five o'clock.

585
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Our official Indiana football correspondent, Mindy Winkler of Hank FM.

586
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Speaker 3: I saw on TV last night on which TV? Before

587
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: the game? Yeah, they had live cameras down there. She

588
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: was hooping it up for sure.

589
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Question for you die hard IU fans, Okay, everybody else,

590
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: this doesn't pertain to you. Would you rather have this

591
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: football championship or would you trade this for banner number

592
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: six in basketball to hang up at Assembly Hall? Which

593
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: one would you rather have?

594
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Speaker 3: I'm not speaking for Diehard Hoo's your fans. I don't

595
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: think anybody would trade this for anything. Yeah, I'm just

596
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: off the top.

597
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: Of my head.

598
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys that went down there.

599
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people that were there. I

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Speaker 3: mean graduates of IU. I would go down and visit

601
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Speaker 3: my buddies in the late nineties, early two thousands and

602
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: we'd tailgate for games.

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Speaker 1: Would never make it in. You went to the Wisconsin

604
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: game up in Wisconsin where they scored like eighty on Indiana.

605
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Was so embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Uh the lowest to the low right there,

607
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: that Wisconsin game when they put up eighty on IU.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I agree with you, but I know it's

609
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Speaker 1: a basketball crazy state. But the reason I would say

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Speaker 1: you don't trade this one is because of what your

611
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: rivals have done you still got five banners in basketball,

612
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: that's more than anything produced. Got six doesn't make it

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Speaker 1: any better, and you still wouldn't have as many as

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Speaker 1: your other rival Kentucky. So six would be cool. But

615
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: this football one separates you, like this is something that man,

616
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: and just two years time you went from one of

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Speaker 1: the worst program statistically in the history of college football

618
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: to national champions It's unbelievable. Quick update on Indiana's roster,

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Speaker 1: though we kind of knew this was coming.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The younger brother of Fernando Mendoza, Alberto, he was the

622
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback this year. He has entered the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: What we knew about that is that because I use

624
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Speaker 3: got the TCU, the kid from TCU, they.

625
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Speaker 1: Hit the transfer portal themselves and they went out and

626
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Speaker 1: got TCUs quarterback. Okay, so it's pretty good, and Fernando's

627
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Speaker 1: out of there or Albert. Yeah, Fernando's going to be

628
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Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. And then the younger

629
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Speaker 1: Alberto Mendoza, he's hitting the portal. Like all the movers

630
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Speaker 1: and shakers say, it looks like Georgia Tech is probably

631
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Speaker 1: where he's going to end up. Interesting and you know what,

632
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: hat tip to the kid, if you can go play somewhere.

633
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Speaker 1: You know, he had his moments here this season where

634
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Speaker 1: he had to go into the game, held the old

635
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State game. He came in on the second play

636
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: after his brother got rocked on the opening one, and

637
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: he made some moments. So good for you, kid, Go

638
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: get your money, go get some playing time. I'm not

639
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: mad at you.

640
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: And Fernando got rocked on several plays last night, dirty

641
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: dirty hits that weren't called.

642
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: And Sig went after the refs on that halftime interview.

643
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: Like normally on those halftime interviews, the coach just wants

644
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: to get the hell out of there. We gotta play hard,

645
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: we gotta make better decisions. You know, I'm gonna go

646
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: talk to the guys and they run in there, Sig

647
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: like he was doing like a WWE promo of these referees. Well,

648
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, brother, Like that was Sig

649
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: at halftime, and it was.

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Speaker 3: Wild, kind of annoying watching him just get I mean,

651
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: he they blooded his face, his lip and nothing was called.

652
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, we weren't the only ones that noticed.

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Speaker 1: Coach Signetti did. But it was a physical game at Miamia.

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Speaker 1: So good defensively, They've gotten multiple NFL dudes on that

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Speaker 1: defensive line, and the Hoosiers held their own though. They

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Speaker 1: did just enough and got that win, and they are

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Speaker 1: the national champions. All right, let's check in with what's

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Speaker 1: happening up at Minnesota. They're moron Attorney General Keith Ellison, who,

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Speaker 1: if you remember when he was running for that position,

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Speaker 1: had a lot of allegations of domestic abuse against him

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Speaker 1: that were conveniently dropped right before he got the nomination. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean he was one of the most powerful

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Speaker 3: people in the Democratic Party when he was a representative.

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Speaker 3: He was the leader of the Democrat National He was

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Speaker 3: a chairman there the National Committee for the Democrats, so

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Speaker 3: he was, it still is a pretty powerful guy with

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Progressives.

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Speaker 1: He's also still a moron here. He is justifying those

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Speaker 1: lunatics that barged into the church.

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Speaker 6: The protest as a fundamental to American society. This country

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Speaker 6: started in a protest, and you know, it's freedom of expression.

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Speaker 6: People have a right to lift up their voices and

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Speaker 6: make their peace, and none of us are immune.

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Speaker 1: From the voice of the public.

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Speaker 6: So I quite honestly, I think that you got the

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Speaker 6: first Amendment freedom of religion and the freedom of a

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Speaker 6: First Amendment freedom of expression.

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Speaker 3: Storming into private property and yelling at kids and intimidating

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Speaker 3: moms and dads who are there to worship God and

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Speaker 3: a Christian church. Keith, guess what I want to hear

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Speaker 3: you say the same thing when they do it to

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Speaker 3: your office. Because it's not exclusive to Republicans, although it

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Speaker 3: seems like it. You remember a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 3: when the demonstration of Monuments Circle, those lunatics were all

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Speaker 3: chanting and talking about how Mayor Hog said, shouldn't be silent,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Mere, shouldn't be silent. We're not gonna let anybody

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Speaker 3: stand on the fence, so they're coming after you too.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee. We're talking about abolishing ice. I guarantee. And

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Speaker 1: this is in the general.

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Speaker 3: There was the first Muslim representative of in Congress. Try

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Speaker 3: that crap in a mosque. Try what those lunatics did

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Speaker 3: in a mosque and see if that happens against.

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Speaker 1: My blood boiling. They would never try it in a mosque.

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Speaker 3: They'd only do it to Christians because they don't care

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Speaker 3: about Somalies, they don't care about Latinos. They hate Christians.

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Speaker 3: The Biden DOJ went after peaceful Christians praying outside a

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Speaker 3: planned parenthood and an abortion clinic, jailed them. What do

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Speaker 3: you think they're going to do. They don't care about

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Speaker 3: the Somalis or the Latinos. They hate the Christian conservative

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Speaker 3: white contingent there. And that's what we saw. Try it

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Speaker 3: in a mosque, I dare you hell, Try it in

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Speaker 3: Texas and see how that goes for you.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna happen, guys.

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Speaker 3: It ain't gonna happen because they know Christians are benign

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Speaker 3: and peaceful. Look what happened after Charlie Kirk's death.

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Speaker 1: There was no.

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Speaker 3: Riots in the streets. There was an outpouring of forgiveness.

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Speaker 3: There was an outpouring of worship and gospel at that

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Speaker 3: stadium in Arizona, fifty to one hundred thousand strong. Well,

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Speaker 3: there's a lawyer on CNN Nige that says, sorry that

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Speaker 3: boils my bloods oh, I got it. There's a lawyer

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Speaker 3: on CNN who's their contributor, Stacy Schneider. Now mind you,

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Speaker 3: this isn't Fox, this isn't Newsmax, this is CNN's legal contributor.

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Speaker 3: She dropped a pretty big reality bomb on Old Keith Ellison.

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Speaker 12: The law says that these protesters are in trouble. There's

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Speaker 12: a federal statute called face face that says if you

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Speaker 12: interfere or physically obstruct another person's First Amendment right to

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Speaker 12: exercise their freedom of practicing their religion, it is a

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Speaker 12: federal crime. Now, had these protesters stood outside the church,

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Speaker 12: been on the sidewalk, been on the street, they likely

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Speaker 12: would have been p acted by their First Amendment right

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Speaker 12: to protest. But you're allowed to protest in a public forum,

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Speaker 12: but that right is not absolute. They crossed the line

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Speaker 12: when they went inside a church, and I think of

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Speaker 12: it almost like, you know, a church's public property. Imagine

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Speaker 12: if protesters went inside a hospital to protest medicaid or

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Speaker 12: health policy and interrupted treatment of patients. It's really not

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Speaker 12: that different.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe going to the Capitol building, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: On January sixth, just throwing that out there. Bill points

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Speaker 1: that out in the YouTube chat.

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Speaker 3: Show Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over

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Speaker 3: there with a very special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 1: One of the best writers in America. You can catch

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Speaker 1: his work at OutKick dot com. Danny z dan Zach

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Speaker 1: Shesky joins us, what's going on, man? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Guys, appreciate you having me as always.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you were outside the Supreme Court late

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Speaker 1: last week. Therefore, the oral arguments and the protests between

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Speaker 1: the pro boys playing against women people and the anti

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Speaker 1: boys playing against women people. We'll get to that here

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. But I know you used to

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Speaker 1: work at ESPN, You've been on air, You've been a

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Speaker 1: writer for sports, among other things. Your thoughts on this

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Speaker 1: wild journey of the Indiana who's your football program?

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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, it's incredibly disappointing because now three

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Speaker 11: Big Ten teams have won the national championship in the

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Speaker 11: past five years, and none of them are the Penn

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Speaker 11: State and in the.

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Speaker 1: Allions that's right, Ran State Alliance.

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Speaker 11: I mean, guys, like, three years, three Big Ten champions,

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Speaker 11: all different team teams, none of them Penn State. I mean,

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Speaker 11: how am I supposed to feel today?

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Speaker 4: I feel horrible? But let me say, you know, you

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Speaker 4: got to give credit?

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Speaker 10: Where credits?

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Speaker 13: Do you?

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Speaker 4: Man? Like this is people have said it, it can't

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Speaker 4: be overstated.

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Speaker 11: It's one of the greatest sports stories, honestly, we've ever witnessed.

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Speaker 11: A team that has never been known for football, that

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Speaker 11: has been historically bad at football, to turn around and

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Speaker 11: not only win the National championship, but the way they

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Speaker 11: did it, not losing a single game all year, the

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Speaker 11: way they rolled through the playoffs. Excuse me, even last night,

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Speaker 11: it really felt like they were never.

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Speaker 1: In danger of losing that game.

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Speaker 11: I didn't feel I don't know if you guys felt it,

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Speaker 11: but there was never a time where I was like,

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Speaker 11: Miami's gonna win this football game. Yes the score was close,

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Speaker 11: yes Miami had the ball, but you just felt like

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Speaker 11: with Indiana's defense, they were never in any trouble. And

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Speaker 11: that was kind of indicative of how basically the entire

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Speaker 11: season has gone. Like They've never felt like they were

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Speaker 11: going to lose to Ohio State, never felt like they

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Speaker 11: were going to lose either of the playoff games.

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Speaker 4: They were in.

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Speaker 11: What Signette did absolutely incredible, you know, and I used

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Speaker 11: to I actually bet against them. Thankfully Miami did cover.

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Speaker 11: The part of my rationale was that, you know, Indiana

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Speaker 11: had benefited a lot from defensive scores and turnovers, which

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Speaker 11: can be a bit sluky, but at a certain point

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Speaker 11: you just kind of got to tip your hat and

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Speaker 11: go like, hey, that's a team that was built on it.

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Speaker 11: It was a team that played aggressive. They got the

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Speaker 11: punt blocks for a touchdown. It was I think they

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Speaker 11: had at least one defensive score or special team score

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Speaker 11: in all three playoff games. So at a certain point

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Speaker 11: it's like, well, maybe that wasn't sluky. That's just how

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Speaker 11: well coached they were in every phase of the game.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's part of what Signety deserves credit

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Speaker 11: for that maybe he's not getting enough credit for is

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Speaker 11: you know, things like special teams can often be an afterthought,

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Speaker 11: but like Indiana poured everything it had into every phase

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Speaker 11: of the game, and that's why they're national champions deservingly.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so here's the debate that we've been having

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Speaker 1: on our show today. If you're a Purdue fan, okay,

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Speaker 1: the big rival to eye you all right, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: about being a Penn State fan was bad.

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Speaker 11: But Purdue fans, hey.

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Speaker 1: It's basketball, says it now, so at least they've got

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Speaker 1: something going on. But I did see a lot of

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Speaker 1: Purdue fans and on my timeline last night going, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're actually rooting for Indiana. We want to

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Speaker 1: keep it in the state of Indiana. I am totally

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Speaker 1: against that. I feel like, if you're going to be

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Speaker 1: a salty rival, you gotta be a salty rival. Michigan

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Speaker 1: would never root for Ohio State, and it was kind

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Speaker 1: of wearing me out seeing these feel good Purdue fans

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Speaker 1: saying they're rooting for Indiana. Where are you at on this.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you know where I'm at.

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Speaker 11: I started this by saying, I'm incredibly disappointed at the

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Speaker 11: kind of state and the third Big Ten team just

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Speaker 11: won the national championship and I was rooting for Miami also,

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Speaker 11: I would say this like, I feel like Purdue and

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Speaker 11: Indiana are similar in football, though Purdue's actually had even

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Speaker 11: more success.

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Speaker 4: So I'm a produce fan.

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Speaker 11: I feel horrible this morning because I'm like, that could

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Speaker 11: have been us, Like, if Indiana can do it, we

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Speaker 11: should have been able to do it, except we didn't.

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Speaker 11: I would actually feel way worse about myself today because again,

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Speaker 11: now you have no excuses. Again, that's part of the

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Speaker 11: reason I'm so pissed as a Penn State fan. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 11: Michigan won a national championship. Fine, They've historically always been great.

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Speaker 11: Ohio State fine, historically great, But if Indianna can win

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Speaker 11: a national championship, then what the hell is Penn State doing?

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Speaker 11: How come they haven't done it? Like, I feel way

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Speaker 11: worse about Indiana winning than Penn State. I'm sorry, than

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Speaker 11: Michigan or Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: As a Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Fan, who's like the big rival to Penn State? Dan Like,

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Speaker 1: would you ever root for that rival because of one

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Speaker 1: reason or the other?

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Speaker 11: It's Ohio State and absolutely not no circumstance ever, never

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Speaker 11: never know?

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, Dan, talk about Mendoza for a second.

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Speaker 3: Heisman Dooza. Is there any comparison? Is there anybody quite

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Speaker 3: like him? I always made the comparison of him and

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Speaker 3: Peyton Manning in terms of preparation for the game. He

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Speaker 3: was Peyton Manning like when talking about prepping for the game,

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Speaker 3: have you seen anybody quite like Mendoza?

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Speaker 1: He reminds you of anybody else.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait into some controversial territory. I

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Speaker 11: am not in love with Mendoza like everyone else. I

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Speaker 11: in fact, think his postgame interviews are the absolute worst

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Speaker 11: thing I've ever heard in my entire life. He sounds

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Speaker 11: like a freaking robot, Like he has been preparing for

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Speaker 11: these postgame interviews, Like in the mirror, I'm actually not

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Speaker 11: sure if he spends more time preparing for the game

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Speaker 11: or preparing his post game speeches, because that's how like

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Speaker 11: rehearsed they sound. I the kid is great, obviously, he

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Speaker 11: what he did this season, He's a deserving Heisman winner.

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Speaker 11: His performance yesterday and actually it almost felt like he

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Speaker 11: finally gave a normal postgame interview yesterday. But before that,

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Speaker 11: I was like, I don't get it, Like maybe you

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Speaker 11: guys can tell me what I'm missing, But I have

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Speaker 11: felt like his his interviews, his press time, like something

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Speaker 11: just weirdly feels a little bit off about him than me.

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Speaker 1: Would be Diego Pavia, though, Danny, would you rather have

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Speaker 1: him go up there wearing the eyes and the gold

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Speaker 1: grill and make it all about himself.

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Speaker 11: A little bit of a character like I honestly think,

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Speaker 11: as we talked about on dock Ats your show, like

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Speaker 11: I think Pavi is playing a like a heel character.

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Speaker 11: I think he just made the decision that he's probably

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Speaker 11: not going to be an NFL quarterback. He's gonna need

869
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 11: to make a turn, so why not go into the

870
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 11: heel role? And maybe he can get himself like a

871
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 11: YouTube show or some media and just be over the

872
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 11: top bombastic, whereas Mendoza almost feels like he's playing the

873
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 11: character of this like perfect athlete that he has been

874
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 11: rehearsing for his entire life, like I have to just

875
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 11: be this guy. And again it just it weirdly, all

876
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 11: feels very scripted to me.

877
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: But it's working, right, He's going to be the number

878
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: one pick while Diego Pavia is going to try to

879
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: put me into a new Chevy next year.

880
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 11: Well yeah, but I mean, like you know, they can

881
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 11: both be playing a character and one can have talent

882
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 11: at football and the other cannot. That's it as part

883
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 11: of the deal here.

884
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

885
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 11: I just something about Mendoza feels a little inauthentic to me,

886
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 11: whereas everyone is praising him as being super authent I

887
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 11: told you it was gonna be controversial and everyone's gonna

888
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 11: jump down my throat, But something about them feels an

889
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 11: authentic to me. I don't know.

890
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: Let's tell you.

891
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Speaking with Dan zach Shesky, writer of outkickoutkick dot com,

892
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: So what did you see at the Supreme Court last week? Now,

893
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: the Republicans, the conservatives. We're not the protest people. We

894
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: have jobs, we go to work, That's who we are.

895
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: But man, I gotta be honest with you. When I

896
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: was watching the news coverage and I'm following your stuff online,

897
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: it seemed like an awful lot of pro protecting women

898
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: and sports people showed up.

899
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: I was guys.

900
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 11: For the majority of the day. I felt like the

901
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 11: you know, the pro woman crowd was definitely the better

902
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 11: represented crowd. I heard rumblings that the anti woman crowd

903
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 11: was planning on bringing in like buses from New York

904
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 11: City as people, which by the way, doesn't surprise me

905
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 11: because again, it's not hard to find people who can

906
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 11: get on a bus and be that bus for four

907
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 11: hours when nobody has any jobs, which I did think

908
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 11: was funny because I talked to one trans person who

909
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 11: said I was like, you know, what are you doing

910
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 11: here today? And the person was like, well, I had

911
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 11: today off.

912
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, you have today off.

913
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 11: How lucky that it's a Tuesday at ten am and

914
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 11: you are all that's unbelievable. Whereas it seemed like, you know,

915
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 11: the pro woman crawd like, look, this was a big deal.

916
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 11: People made plans to take time off of work to

917
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 11: travel to this event, and look, guys, you're like I

918
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 11: need to be this guy. But like one side was

919
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 11: standing up and the people were like just literally telling

920
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 11: their stories, like this is about truth, this is about fairness,

921
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 11: I'm here to protect women. It was a lot of

922
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 11: people telling their stories and explaining themselves very articulately. And

923
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 11: then on the other side you had this like blaring

924
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 11: dance club music, and then you had like Lady Gaga

925
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 11: and like at one point they literally the transgroup was like,

926
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 11: let's just yell with rob as we can to drown

927
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 11: them out. And it's like right because you don't have

928
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 11: an argument, Like you don't have people who can stand

929
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 11: up here and talk about how this is fair or

930
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 11: this is right, So all you do is you yell

931
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 11: a bunch of buzzwords like I can't. Every speaker that

932
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 11: came up in the trans crowd basically started by being

933
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 11: like as a black, trans Indigenous woman of Cou.

934
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, you have to.

935
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 11: Just identify yourself every single time. I mean, guys, it

936
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 11: was unbelievable how often I heard, you know, Asian Jewish woman, man,

937
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 11: trans gay, Like I was like, gees, but it's almost

938
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 11: like in order to speak at one of the things

939
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 11: you have to have at least three of these identifiers

940
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 11: that apply to you, or you can't speak.

941
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: And did we hear anything out of the protect women crowd? Like, again,

942
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: we're not normally those types of people, but they showed

943
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: up with pretty good numbers. Did they get a chance

944
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: to get on a mic or a bullhorn or anything

945
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: like that.

946
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like I said, the speeches were mostly what we

947
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 11: talked about, like explaining why they were here. You know,

948
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 11: every person that talked, Riley Gaines or Bruce Pearl spoke

949
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 11: or Jennifer said, like every one of them just basically said,

950
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 11: I'm here because it's the right thing to do, because

951
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 11: I'm here for fairness, I'm here to protect women. I'm

952
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 11: here to protect girls. It's important. It's important that you know,

953
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 11: we fight to protect our young women.

954
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: And that we don't let.

955
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 11: Children have these you know, potentials, not potentially but life

956
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 11: literally life changing surgeries and take these life changing drugs.

957
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 11: I mean, it was it was all very factual and

958
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 11: to the point, and also just in general very sophisticated,

959
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 11: whereas like the other group, there's a video on my

960
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 11: Twitter if you want to look it up. Of like,

961
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 11: there was this crazy I don't know if the person

962
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 11: was trained, but they had their own personal speaker and

963
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 11: we're literally like working and we're like half drue. It

964
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 11: was like twenty seven degrees and this person was in

965
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 11: like a sports bra and like a T string and

966
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 11: was like doing this dance and I was like, oh God, like,

967
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 11: you know which side do you want to be on? Guys,

968
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 11: the side of people who were like fully closed and

969
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 11: like he were for fairness, or the side or that

970
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 11: side like it. It just seems pretty obvious.

971
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: And that person doing that was more active than anyone

972
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: on the Penn State football roster this year. Daddy z

973
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: follow his work at OutKick dot com. What's your Twitter handle?

974
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 11: I am at real Dan Zach and just shout out

975
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 11: to you Hammer. That's what we call a callback in

976
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 11: the big.

977
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Good callback, buddy, awesome stuff. Brother, We appreciate you. You

978
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: got a guys thinker sa Hammer and Nigel show.

979
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 3: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with

980
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: a very special guest on the hotline.

981
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: We have been following her journey since the college football

982
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: playoff began. She and her husband Bob have been following

983
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: the Hoosiers like people do the Grateful Dead. She's been

984
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: to every location. She went to the Natty last night

985
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: from Hank FM. It's our Poul, Mindy Wine, who.

986
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: Let you on TV last night? On which TV? Right

987
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: before the game? I think it was your husband that

988
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 3: was got some decent airtime.

989
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 5: And then you becoming more popular than me. She's a

990
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 5: new celebrity now.

991
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: Your husband, Bob is like, I you super fan. Correct

992
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Mindy. Today's also his birthday, so

993
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: I can only imagine you're probably carrying him around like

994
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: it's a weekend at Bernie's movie.

995
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 5: She's napping right now.

996
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 9: We drove three and a half hours up here to

997
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 9: Saint Pete. I want to make sure he's ready ready

998
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 9: to go, because we partied so late last night, and

999
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 9: I'm like, honey, it's your birth it's going to be

1000
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 9: going on, so you need to get.

1001
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 5: Some rest right now.

1002
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: So you're still in Florida. How late did you stay

1003
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: up last night? Down in Miami?

1004
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 10: Oh?

1005
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 9: About three am? Nice, they kicked us out. They kicked

1006
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 9: us out of the tailgating spot about one thirty. They're like, hey, yeah,

1007
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 9: we want to go home.

1008
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 5: Could you just get out of airplace. It's through the

1009
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 5: very last ones to leave.

1010
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: Dude, you were told to leave in Miami. That's a strong,

1011
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: strong thing there, Bendy, Hey, take me through what it

1012
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: was like in the stadium last night, the vibe, and

1013
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: like from TV, it looked like it was probably sixty

1014
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: forty maybe seventy thirty IU fans.

1015
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a very good analogy. I would say sixty forty.

1016
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 9: And it was intimidating compared to the last two Bowl

1017
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 9: games where we obviously were dominating, and then this being

1018
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 9: their home field, we felt the pressure and that game

1019
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 9: was much more of a nail bier than we.

1020
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: Wanted it to be as well.

1021
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I was super stressed, especially when we went

1022
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 9: and got you know, Mendoza's amazing touchdown with fourth and

1023
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 9: five was phenomenal.

1024
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 5: That set everything off.

1025
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 9: But then when we only we're only able to get

1026
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 9: the next Steel goal and I'm like, oh my god,

1027
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 9: Carson Beck is going to run this back and we're

1028
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 9: going to lose by one point.

1029
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: I'm going to ball my eyes out, freaking out.

1030
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: But the juice constantly from the crowd, like in that

1031
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: game against Oregon where it was like ninety five percent

1032
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: IU fans Oregon had to go on a silent count.

1033
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: Were the IU fans that were there last night still loud?

1034
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: Yes?

1035
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: Well, and then that was just it.

1036
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 9: I was so proud of Who's your nation for keeping

1037
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 9: the volume up and just being on top of everything,

1038
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 9: you know, every time that we did something, even just minuscule,

1039
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 9: it was they were just fired up. And I mean

1040
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 9: the fact that I was so proud, and I'm just

1041
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 9: going to say it that there was raucous at cheering

1042
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 9: when our president was shown on the screen.

1043
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 11: I loved it so much.

1044
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's what I wanted to ask. Yeah, Trump

1045
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: was there last night. They showed the suite, you know,

1046
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: he was there with like the grandkids and all that

1047
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I'm sure there were probably some people

1048
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: that were booing. I get that, but from television, it

1049
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: sounded like overwhelming cheers.

1050
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 5: Yes, And it went on for quite a bit. And

1051
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 5: I mean everybody around us.

1052
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 9: We had a couple of course, that weren't just around us,

1053
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 9: that weren't, you know, saying anything, and but there were

1054
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 9: most of us were just everybody was just insanely excited

1055
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 9: to see him. And I loved that they didn't make

1056
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 9: it over the top. Yo wasn't seeing him all the time.

1057
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 9: They only showed him a couple more times. It wasn't

1058
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 9: the Taylor swift because I'm it was about the football.

1059
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: Game, right. They showed the Miami porn star and the

1060
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Mendoza hot ant way more than they showed Donald Trump

1061
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: last night. Mindy Winkler's our guest. She is on Hank FM.

1062
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: She and her husband Bob have been following the Hoosiers

1063
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: on their playoff journey here. So when the game's over,

1064
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: take me through the celebration like started in the parking

1065
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: lot and then what happened.

1066
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 9: Well, we were trying to go over to the Intercontinental

1067
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 9: where the team is, because we had went there a

1068
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 9: couple of nights before when the team could come out

1069
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 9: and meet their family. So I got some great footage

1070
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 9: of them all, you know, monk, And that's how I

1071
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 9: ran into Ashley Herricks, John Herrick's wife.

1072
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: We were there together, and John Herricks witness director who

1073
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: also is a halftime guy in sideline reporter for IU

1074
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: football and basketball.

1075
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 9: Yes, so she was there wandering around. But they wouldn't

1076
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 9: let anyone in the Intercontinental if you did not actually

1077
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 9: have a key to stay there this time. So then

1078
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 9: we just went back to our airbnb and just continued

1079
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 9: to party. We had twelve people in our airbnb, and

1080
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 9: so we just continued till like three, three, three thirty

1081
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 9: in the morning.

1082
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Now, I've known Mendy for a long time, and Mendy

1083
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: used to go pretty hard in the paint when it

1084
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: comes to having a good time. Mendy is no stranger

1085
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: to putting down some beverages. Take me through what it

1086
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: was like for you last night. Was it like getting

1087
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: back in the old hot tough time machine. Was it

1088
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: twenty two year old Mendy again last night?

1089
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 5: Is hey?

1090
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 9: The fact the fact that you mentioned hot tub, We

1091
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 9: had a hot tub at our airbnb, and yes, we

1092
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 9: were drinking champagne and partied up in the hot tub.

1093
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: Were there's strangers in the hot tub?

1094
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 5: No, we knew all these people.

1095
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so that makes it okay, go back to the

1096
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: game real quick. What who? There was a blocked punt

1097
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: for a touchdown?

1098
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: Right?

1099
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Who?

1100
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 9: Like?

1101
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: What got?

1102
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that got just as big

1103
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: a reaction absolutely as the windows of fourth and five

1104
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: touchdown run. I mean, there were plenty of plays that

1105
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: that that place was getting rocked by IU.

1106
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 9: Fans, absolutely, and I mean, and the faith was there.

1107
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 9: You could tell, you know, there were some people that

1108
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 9: were again we were there was you know, nail biers

1109
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 9: compared to what we had the last couple of Bowl games.

1110
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 9: But the confidence was also there, and we're like, you know,

1111
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 9: let's trust the team was trust Signetti.

1112
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 5: He knows what he's doing.

1113
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 9: And it was just, you know, you could have steal

1114
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 9: the energy to people like and I kept having to

1115
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 9: remind some people around us too, I'm like, we're still winning, guys.

1116
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 9: I know it's not as big as it seems like

1117
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 9: we should be, but people keept forgetting we're not.

1118
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 5: We're not behind, We're already ahead.

1119
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't say, but normal to blow every single

1120
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: team out, that's not normally what happened, correct, And I don't.

1121
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: Think they ever were behind in any playoff game, were they?

1122
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm not shouting there no go back and look at that.

1123
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're totally absolutely right. Calm rational, Mindy calming

1124
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: everybody down around her at the stadium last night.

1125
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Sure, all right, Mendy. So last thing here, we want

1126
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: you to rank from the most friendly to the most

1127
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: insufferable fans that you've been around. You've been around Ohio

1128
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: State fans, You've been around Bama fans, very few Oregon

1129
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: fans and those no good coke sniffers from Miami who

1130
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: were the most friendly and who were.

1131
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 9: The worst, most friendly by far Oregon fans and the

1132
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 9: ones we did meet and Bob, Bob.

1133
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 5: Experienced that when he went to just very very gracious people.

1134
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 9: If they would have continued that instead of us, that's

1135
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 9: who we would have been rooting for.

1136
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Loved that fan base.

1137
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 9: Ohio State look like angels next to the Miami Hurricane fans.

1138
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: It's about right, not even a joke.

1139
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I was very disappointed.

1140
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 9: And my husband, Bob, you guys know him, he's very

1141
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 9: laid back, almost got in his first fight.

1142
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: Yes, bring that heat, bring that heat. Bob quite proud

1143
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: of him.

1144
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like with Miami there was there

1145
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: was definitely some arrogance going into that game. They call

1146
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 3: it culture in Miami. Oh culture is that what it is?

1147
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? The you the convicts, it's their culture versus convicts.

1148
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I retweeted a tweet last night from former IU quarterback

1149
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: Xander Diamont. He's the kid that had that awesome picture

1150
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: with the oaken bucket and the stogie in the locker

1151
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: room years ago about how former Miami player Warren Sapp

1152
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: was trying to fight women and like the IU like

1153
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: parking lots like trying to fight women. That's pretty much

1154
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: part for the course. And the first thing I thought

1155
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: of was, my god, I hope Mendy didn't get mouthy.

1156
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: I was close Bob.

1157
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 9: I actually was kind of the one to kind of

1158
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 9: encourage Bob. I'm like, don't let that guy get in

1159
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 9: our video. And then Bob goes up there and he's say,

1160
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 9: this guy was just a total jerk. And then it

1161
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 9: was funnier he had getting completely escorted out. He wasn't

1162
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 9: supposed to be in there in the first place. Good

1163
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 9: And that was one thing I wanted to bring up

1164
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 9: to the I found out Hammer I've been.

1165
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 5: I was Jason and I've been.

1166
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 9: You know, we messaged back and forth quite a bit

1167
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 9: that I had the whole no ticket, no tailgate thing

1168
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 9: going on.

1169
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 5: Apparently that was only for IU fans. They were letting

1170
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 5: any Hurricane fans come into the tailgates.

1171
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: I remember you said that, Yeah, because there was a

1172
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 1: bit controversy because a lot of IU fans just wanted

1173
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: to come down and be part of the atmosphere and

1174
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: party in the parking lot. And then they screwed him

1175
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: with a non refundable seven hundred dollars bill that they

1176
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: couldn't get in. But yet they were letting the Hurricane

1177
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: fans in. Is that what you're telling me?

1178
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 5: Yes?

1179
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 9: Absolutely, they were facts right behind us with these like

1180
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 9: probably ten kids, I mean literally kid and they couldn't

1181
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 9: have been more than twenty two and they were simply

1182
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 9: there to tailgate, didn't have tickets or anything. And I

1183
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 9: saw four walk in as they were trying to scan me,

1184
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 9: and you.

1185
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 5: Know, it was just scan my bar code.

1186
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 9: And I'm like, if I'm not able to get in

1187
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 9: this game because you've already scanned this bar code, I'm

1188
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 9: gonna be whipping.

1189
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: So again. I've known Mendy for a while. Yes she

1190
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: is a sweetheart, but no, you do not want to

1191
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: get on the bad side.

1192
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no no no.

1193
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, Mendy, congratulations, Thank you so much for

1194
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: being our correspondent here throughout this playoff journey. Safe travels

1195
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: and what are you on, Hank again tonight?

1196
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 5: Actually I'm doing it. I actually did my show. I'm

1197
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 5: doing my show right here in Florida.

1198
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome, awesome, A great show tonight, Mendy, Thank

1199
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: you guys. All right before we hit a break with

1200
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: Matt Bear here. We've heard from a lot of people today, Yes,

1201
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: but you know who we haven't heard from, AI Coach Signetti.

1202
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 7: Make no mistake, Hoosiers are just better than anyone else.

1203
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 7: We beat Ohio State, we beat the piss out of

1204
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 7: Alabama and Oregon. Hell, we beat those man bun wearing

1205
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 7: beta males from Oregon twice. We then capped it off

1206
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 7: by surviving those coke addicts from Miami. We walked into

1207
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 7: Miami's house, brought more fans, and then did to the

1208
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 7: Hurricanes what a bella danger gets paid to do.

1209
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: True.

1210
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 7: Also, someone check on Purdue fans. I'm sure all four

1211
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 7: of them are having a hard time understanding what real

1212
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 7: greatness looks like. Sure, sure the train people have Little

1213
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 7: Brother syndrome. When they get mad at Hoosier fans. It's

1214
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 7: like watching Scrappy Do try to fight a goddamn grizzly bear.

1215
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 7: It's like Rob Kendall yelling at Shaquille O'Neill yes. Anyway,

1216
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 7: I've got some beer to drink and some ass to kick.

1217
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 7: Enjoy this, Natty. It won't be the last Purdue sucks,

1218
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 7: but so does Michigan and Ohio State. Ai Signetti, there

1219
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 7: it is, Hey, I sing Natty out?

1220
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: Really okay?

1221
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 9: Are you alcome? Everything's going to be okay?

1222
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: Are you okay?

1223
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1224
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm fine.

1225
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 7: I'm pretty freaking far from okay?

1226
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 4: Are you okay with this?

1227
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: On the Hammer and Nigel.

1228
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: Hammer, one of our favorite bands, Poison, it's their fortieth

1229
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: anniversary tour this year twenty twenty six, but it's been

1230
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: called off because friend of the show Brett Michael's, the

1231
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: lead singer, wanted to make six hundred percent more than

1232
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: the other band members. Drummer Ricky Rockett says, quote, you

1233
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: just can't work that way. Are you okay with this

1234
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: whole scenario?

1235
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: Did you say six percent? Six oh six hundred percent?

1236
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: I still think I'm okay with this because Brett Michaels

1237
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: is Poison. I know they're a small amount of C. C.

1238
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: Deville and Ricky Rocket people, right, but the real face

1239
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: of Poison as Brett Michaels, And yeah, he should be

1240
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: making the most. He's probably the reason why they sell tickets.

1241
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: If you had Poison without Brett Michaels on stage, do

1242
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: you think they're going to sell any tickets. I don't

1243
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: think they are. So Brett brings the people in and look,

1244
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: maybe hair band, maybe glam eighties isn't your thing. All

1245
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: I know is that every time Brett Michaels has done

1246
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: Carb Day here at the Motor Speedway by himself, it's

1247
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: been like record crowds. The dude brings it. He brings

1248
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: the crowd. I'm sure if back in nineteen ninety five,

1249
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: if you wanted to go to a Chicago Bulls game,

1250
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: it was going to be super expensive because Michael Jordan

1251
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: is bringing people in and because of that, Michael Jordan

1252
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: made more money than anybody else on the Chicago Bulls team.

1253
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: So that's how it works, man, Your stars get the

1254
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: star treatment, and when it comes to poison and honestly

1255
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: eighties hairband, Brett Michaels is like the poster child for

1256
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: all of that. Now, before we move forward, Nige, I

1257
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on something. Okay, I saw

1258
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: something on YouTube over the weekend. I did not make this,

1259
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: This was not mine, but I want to see if

1260
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: this moved the needle for you. Since we're talking about

1261
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: poison and hairbands, somebody did an AI produced cover of

1262
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: Hanson's umbop, but if it sounded like eighties glam metal, Okay,

1263
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: here we go, here it comes. I liked this so

1264
01:06:59,400 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: much better.

1265
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 8: I think I gotta do too.

1266
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Yes, I'm okay with that. Got a little poison,

1267
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: You got a little white snake kind of feel to it.

1268
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm alright with that. Hammer.

1269
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: A new study found being a parent desensitizes you to

1270
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: gross stuff. Parents are way less bothered by things like

1271
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: feces and puge because they've just seen so much of it,

1272
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: especially from changing diapers.

1273
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: Doctor Phil, what do you.

1274
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 4: Think, Go change your diaper baby?

1275
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: Are you okay with this theory that parents are desensitized?

1276
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 1: Go change your diaper baby? Do you say the home? Uh? Yeah,

1277
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm alright with this because I get it, Because if

1278
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: you're a parent, I guarantee at some point in your

1279
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: parenting you've had to play the chocolate or poop game.

1280
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: You've had to play the there's something on the couch?

1281
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: Is that chocolate? Is that poop?

1282
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: Well, it's relatively easy to play. You just need a sniff,

1283
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: a quick sniff, or.

1284
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: A taste one either one. But yeah, I totally get this,

1285
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't really realize why we have to spend

1286
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: money on this. The more you're around something, the more

1287
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: desensitized you get to it. Like it used to make

1288
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: me laugh when you threw up in the studio. Now

1289
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: I just feel bad for you all the time. And

1290
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: since we're speaking about doctor Phil here, we haven't done

1291
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: one of these in a while, how about some deep

1292
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: thoughts and now deep thoughts with doctor Phil.

1293
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,440
Speaker 4: You're ugly, you're disgusting.

1294
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to kill you.

1295
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 4: Give me two hundred dollars.

1296
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: Deep thoughts, Very nice, doctor Phil. All right, all right,

1297
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: let's do something dumb. It's the hammer in Nigel show

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: should be like the credo of the show. Let's do

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Speaker 1: something dumb from the people who brought you, how have

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: you injured your crotch? And lud nude dude in the

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Speaker 1: news comes quite possibly the worst segment that we do.

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Speaker 1: It's called caller Roulette. This is where we turn over

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: our number one rated afternoon drivetime show. We just hand

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01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: you guys the keys. Maybe you've been drinking, Maybe you're

1305
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: a moron. I don't know, but we let you guys

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: drive the boat here and you talk about whatever you want.

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: All we have is a list of names. I have

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01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: no idea what these people want to talk about, and

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Speaker 1: we're just going to react. So let's rock this thing already.

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Speaker 1: George is up first. George, Welcome to the Hammer and

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01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: Nigel Show. What's up? George? What's up?

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Speaker 13: Boys?

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 4: Just like it? Who's your number?

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Speaker 9: One?

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 10: I want to tell you all. I love you, really

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 10: love Alison.

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Speaker 4: I got one thing for you. There we go, Hey, boys,

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Speaker 4: about lost my teeth.

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Speaker 9: On that one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, George.

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Speaker 3: In and out.

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Speaker 1: That's how you do caller roulette right there. That's it.

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: You come by, you create a ruckus, you almost lose

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: your teeth, and you get out. That's how it is.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sean is up next. Sean, Welcome to the show. How

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Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I'm good?

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Speaker 13: How you guys?

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01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: Knowing?

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Speaker 10: Hebe yeah? First and four or second and foremost because

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Speaker 10: he beat me too. But who your there?

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Speaker 9: We go?

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Speaker 1: There we go any anyway?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. All I want to know is how much I

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Speaker 4: would have won if I would.

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Speaker 10: Have put one dollar down for the Big Rid to

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Speaker 10: go all the way.

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Speaker 7: At the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: One dollar would have paid you one hundred dollars. They

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Speaker 1: were one hundred to one before the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: So now to win everything though, Yeah, Oh to go undefeated, Yeah, undefeated?

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Speaker 1: Oh to go undefeated. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If that proped best that.

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Speaker 4: I'd probably be a millionaire.

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Speaker 1: I mean they went through a gauntlet, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten schedule alone is tough, but then Ohio

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Speaker 1: State having to beat Oregon twice, Alabama and the Hurricanes

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Speaker 1: in their own home field. Man, that's that's a gauntlet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why the last couple of

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Speaker 1: champions haven't been undefeated. It's tough. They came back against

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Speaker 1: Penn State, right do we? Yeah, that happened. They were down,

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Speaker 1: I was down, and they had to come from behind

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Speaker 1: at Iowa as well, too big comeback at Iowa, and

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Speaker 1: then of course the big touchdown to Cooper at Penn

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Speaker 1: State where he had a tips that right, you know,

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Speaker 1: tippy toe in the end zone. Oh so yeah, man,

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of happy hoo's your fans. I'm sensing a

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Speaker 1: theme so far in call a Roulette. Tim is up next? Tim?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Brother?

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Speaker 11: Wow?

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Speaker 1: There we go anyways, I us great. But what about

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: the IOUs from dub and Dubber.

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Speaker 13: One hundred and fifty k You might want to hold

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Speaker 13: onto that.

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Speaker 1: That's a big one. Yes, Dubble Dumber is such a

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Speaker 1: quotable movie. Man, it's such a quotable movie. I use

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: it all the time, Samson, that was way off. Thank you, Tim.

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Speaker 1: I've got artwork knowedge of Jeff daniels iconic dump hanging

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Speaker 1: up at my house. Is there any other scene in

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Speaker 1: movie history?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is that the number one scene involving a

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Speaker 3: toilet of all time in movie history in cinema?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a good question. That could be like

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: a Danny Glover and lethal weapon is pretty good where

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: he thinks the bomb's gonna blow up and you've got

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01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson talking to him guys like, you don't die

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Speaker 1: on toilets?

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Speaker 3: What about I think it was Harold and Kumar the battle,

1381
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: the battle Bleeps with the hot chicks in the bathroom,

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Speaker 3: that's pretty good.

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01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: In Jeff Daniels sitting of the toilet. Yes, the Jeff

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Speaker 1: Daniels dump was one of the best things ever. And

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Speaker 1: I can't remember which CNN host it was. I think

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Speaker 1: it was CNN. They were talking about something on the air,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how it happened. They played that

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Speaker 1: clip instead of the news video they were supposed to show,

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Speaker 1: and the pooh yeah was like, oh, I'm sorry, that's

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Speaker 1: the wrong video. You fink I'll have to search that

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Speaker 1: and see Mitch is up next? My man, Mitch, what's

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01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: going on? Mitch?

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Speaker 10: You guys went live with the studio?

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Speaker 1: Say that again, and you remember that day.

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Speaker 4: You guys went live with the studio and for about

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Speaker 4: thirty minutes you weren't broadcasting anything.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be more specific on which day, And I

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Speaker 3: know you said the first day, but there's plenty. There's

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Speaker 3: multiple days.

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Speaker 1: If you only knew.

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Speaker 4: Mitch.

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Speaker 10: I called into the main line about halfway through one

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 10: of those days. Look what sounded like a little old

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 10: lady goes hello and I feel you know, you guys aren't.

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Speaker 4: Broadcasting And she goes, oh, I'll take note of that.

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 11: Just to imagine her going into your studio and there's

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 11: like papers playing around, what the blaze is going on?

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 4: And she's like, you.

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Speaker 11: Guys know you're not broadcasted.

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Speaker 1: Only they didn't say blazes. Yeah, yeah, oh, we're well aware.

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,520
Speaker 1: When we're not broadcasting, because we get the YouTube messages,

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: we get the tweets, and uh, this kind of happens

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: more than you would think or what expect.

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 4: Turns on and right the submarine diving dound.

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Speaker 10: You got it.

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Speaker 1: We love our engineers, man, we we bother the heck

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Speaker 1: out of them. So work in progress here in the

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Speaker 1: new facility, for sure. That's okay though, And we were

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01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: told by management you're not allowed to like look at

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Speaker 1: them in the eyes or say anything eitherurselves. Consider them

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: all prints. Do not look at Prince. You cannot talk

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: to Prince. Tom is up next? What's up Tom?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 13: Good, Hey, good efening guys. About the engineers. I've worked

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Speaker 13: with TV and radio engineers. They're the best, and so

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Speaker 13: is Allison. But quickly, I want to vent on Channel

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Speaker 13: six last night they could have bought the local broadcast

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Speaker 13: rights to run that game on the tube last night

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Speaker 13: and they did. Shame on them, But kudos to you guys.

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Speaker 13: Don Fisher number one with a bullet. He got me

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 13: excited the descriptions they gave last night. Don Fisher is

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Speaker 13: a treasure and I hope we can keep him around

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Speaker 13: for many years to come.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, he's an icon. He's such a badass.

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Speaker 1: He's working tonight, like I don't know if he's slept

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01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: it all last night. And look, Fish isn't in his twenties,

1437
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: he's not in his thirties. He's a machine man. He's

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: a total animal. And he went from partying on South

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: Beach Yes to ann Arbor, Michigan, where it's probably a

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: blizzard right now, and he's going to bring you this

1441
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Speaker 1: IU game coming up right after our show ends at

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Speaker 1: six here at WIBC, Chad the Chad is up next.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, just wanted to check in and mention how

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01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 8: much I'm missing Doge right now with everything going on

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 8: with government audits and things like that. I know the

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 8: Pentagon they missed that mark again for an eight time winning.

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 8: Great if we actually got to see a little bit

1450
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 8: of action as far as Dodge checking out that four

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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 8: trillion dollars that's missing from the Pentagon.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to throw that your way. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how Doge like.

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Speaker 3: They seemed like it just kind of faded away there

1455
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: into the background after a while.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was in favor of Doge until they found out

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01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: they were like doing the crap that Elon and Big

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: Balls were trying to find. And then they were like, uh, well,

1459
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Speaker 1: maybe we don't need Doge after all, like all of

1460
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: the ridiculous just bills that people like Todd Young have

1461
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: signed off on, the ridiculous spending. They were probably all

1462
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: four Doge and then they got called out and then

1463
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: they were like, well maybe it sucks. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Jim is up next? What's up?

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Speaker 10: Jim? Hey, guys, I love your show. I just wanted

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Speaker 10: to say, at sixty five years old, I was fortunate

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Speaker 10: to live through Bobby Knight and his undefeated championship run. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: and now here we are at sixty five years old.

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Speaker 10: We got to experience it with football, fifty years difference

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Speaker 10: between it, and we're the only college in the entire

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Speaker 10: world that has accomplished something like this. It's just been

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Speaker 10: a great ride. Yeah, how you guys have been covering

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 10: it in a great way. Appreciate what you got to do.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Jim. I mean, if you think about it,

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: the last two undefeated champions in college football and college basketball,

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Speaker 1: both the Indiana Hoosiers. Boom Marcus, We're going to give

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01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: you the last word here Marcus, what's going on?

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, First off, go Hoosiers, but I was just

1479
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 11: wanted to get through to let you know there's ice

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01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 11: protests downtown at Iupui campus right now.

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Speaker 1: How many, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: My fiance just picked her son up and just texted

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Speaker 4: me and told me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they must really be passionate about the calls

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Speaker 1: because it's like twenty two degrees outside, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: good luck whatever.

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Speaker 3: I will say, I've seen some giant ones, and even

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Speaker 3: in Minneapolis, though, I think the standard has been just

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Speaker 3: no more than one hundred or two, a few hundred. Yeah,

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: I've seen, trust me, I've seen the big ones. Okay,

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01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 3: don't come at me with you know, pictures. And I've

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 3: seen thousands fill the streets in different cities. But part

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01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: of the course it's it's been pretty relatively small, and

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01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: it's amplified on social media and legacy media, but they

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01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 3: never really tell us how many people on an average

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Speaker 3: day that it's been the past couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's you know, a few hundred.

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01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: And you never really get a good response when you

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Speaker 1: ask these people, Okay, it's the law, so what are

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Speaker 1: you doing here? Like you might not like the law.

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: They're doing their job and upholding the law when I'm

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: talking about ice, right, yeah, right, So you're not going

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: to change the law. Trump's not going to get rid

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01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: of Ice. You've certainly got a right to be here.

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01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: But what message are you trying to send or is

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01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: it just something you can put on your own social media.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have a right to storm into churches like

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01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: that mob did in Minnesota and terrorize the Christians there

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: just worshiping and praying to God.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a right to do that. Sorry, And Nige,

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: you said it earlier. If somebody got into your kid's

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: face at your church, you would throat punch him and

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Speaker 1: then worry about bail later.

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Speaker 10: Just so you know.

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Speaker 1: Many in the YouTube chat and myself said we would

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Speaker 1: cover that bail. Okay, So thank you. Oh we got

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Speaker 1: your back on that one, all right. Pretty good run there,

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Speaker 1: of klar Ula. Nobody swore we didn't have anybody just

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Speaker 1: take us down a completely weird path. We'll take that, baby.

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Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.