1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Casey, I was told there was no grand Jerry. I 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: was told it didn't exist. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: According to some news outlets, that's not the case. I 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: was told. We were lying, we were making it all up. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: It was a plot, some bizarre plot to get the 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Lieutenant governor and then lo and behold, yesterday the indie 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: star Fox fifty nine, you know, basically every media out 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: in the city reported that exactly as we had said 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: for months, that there is a grand jury along with 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office, who is not only looking 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: into the Lieutenant Governor Micah beckw With in his office, 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: but they're looking into them for the exact things we 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: said that they were looking into them for, which is 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, pornography, and ghost employment. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: That's correct, and so we were right. 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: No apologies from anyone in the Micah beck With camp 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: who repeatedly tried to deny that this. Look, it's not 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: even the thing, right, it's the deception and the manipulation. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: And that's what you get from Micah and his orbit 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: is denials, deception, manipulation and Micah beck With and this 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: this pains me. You go through stages of grief on 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: something like this and I've reached the point now where 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm numb, numb to it and I just simply want 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: justice at this point, like I've finally accepted what he is. 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Because when you go through this and someone that you 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: were so look Micah beck With at one point was 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: at least I thought, and now in hindsight believe I 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: was just being used the entire time. But Michaeh Beckw 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: I perceived as one of my closest friends at one point, 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: my pastor, he married my wife, and I, I mean it, 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I thought the world of the guy. But what became 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: abundantly clear to me is that the guy is a 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: habitual liar. He's highly fraudulent, and I couldn't simply ignore 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: that and what he was doing in his role as 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Indiana, the second 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: highest ranking official in the state of Indiana, because at 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: one point I thought he was my friend or my buddy, 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: and I just refused to do that. And look, I'd 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: eat a lot of crow on this because I don't 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: like any of these people. I make a living out 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: of holding these people accountable. And the guy that I 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: put up on a perch and said, this is the 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: one guy everybody can believe and trust in proved to 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: maybe be the worst of them them all. And for 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: a prideful person such as myself hard that was a 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: hard thing to do. 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: But the but the. 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Onus to the is to the audience. My obligation is 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: to our audience who gives up their time to listen 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: to us every day. And the obligation had to be 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: to say, look, I know this stuff is going on, 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: I know why it's going on. I'm not going to 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: hide it from you. I have to tell you about 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: these things that we are seeing and that we are 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: where we are going through. And what became very obvious 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: once Micah got elected is I describe him essentially as 57 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: an American Greed character. American Greed is this documentary style 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: show on CNBC. It's been on for years and basically 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: what they do is they report on famous uh in 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: most cases criminals who deceive people, defraud the amount of money, 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, and they're and they're they're conmon right, And 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: in the case of Micah, I don't think he's he 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: didn't take any of my money. But the deception, the 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: level of deception, the type of deception, the the way 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: that they manipulate people, and they con people, or he 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: cons people into thinking he's something he's not. Is exactly 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: the same. It's not a not committing a financial crime. 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: But he is the best I've ever seen at convincing 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: people that he is something he is not, and he 70 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: is gotten away with it for so long that he's 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: gotten so good at it that even when presented with 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: irrefutable evidence this was going on, Like I had talked 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: to multiple people who had given information to the Marion 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: County Prosecutor's Office. Well, Representative Craig Haggard has confirmed he 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: was interviewed by the Marion County Prosecutor's Office. And yet 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: he was so good at lying and so habitually apparently 77 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: addicted to it that even now he and his step 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: I mean, this clown that talked to Indie Star Graham, 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: what's his face still wouldn't come off even in Indy Star. 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: And then these other media outlets have these irrefutable documents 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: that the grand jury investigation is going on exactly as 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: we said it was going on, they still won't come 83 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: off that this is taking a place. I want to 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: read this guy's quote because it is everything a about 85 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Micah beckwith and his orbit in one quote, So again 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Indie Star Fox fifty nine running this story that is 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: now irrefutable evidence has come out that a grand jury 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: exists looking into Micah Beckwitt's office documentation related to artificial intelligence, 89 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: pornography and. 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Ghost employment, and his quote to. 91 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: The Indie Star in their article Graham loft heat is 92 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: that how you say his last. 93 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: Name long l O U G H E A D. 94 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: That's the guy he's listed as a spokesman. 95 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: When we're feed with this irrefutable evidence that this is 96 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: going on, and again, no one ever said that a 97 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: grand jury means an indictment is coming, right, no one 98 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: ever said a grand jury. 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Means a conviction is coming. 100 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: We have simply said everybody knows this is going on, 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: and even when presented with the evidence, he said, quote 102 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: active grand juries are confidential. Therefore the office has no 103 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: knowledge of this. So everyone and their brother can look 104 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: at this and see this is going on, and when 105 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: presented with this, you go, well, that's confidential. 106 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: We have no knowledge of this. 107 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: No, this is public. This has gotten out into the public. 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Everybody's reporting on it. But that's the orbit. It's deflect, deny, deceive, 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: think about just on this case, how many conflicting statements 110 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: we've caught Mike in. So he spends in I believe 111 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: this was March. So Tom Labianco is this freelance journalist 112 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: who broke this story July August, whenever it was and 113 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: in I think March. 114 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: Lebianco was hired. 115 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: To work on a piece for a media organization about 116 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Micah Beckwa and he contacts Micah, and Micah agrees to 117 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: allow this guy to spend a whole day with him. 118 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: He's in the car, he goes to the events with them, 119 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: like they're around each other for an entire day. It 120 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like the guy asked one question in passing, he 121 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: went on merry way. And yet when the story surfaced, 122 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: Micah immediately moves into attack mode of this, you know, 123 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: an anonymous journalist or I don't know who this guy 124 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: is or this this this per I don't I mean, 125 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who this is. And like it's you're going, 126 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: I know, you spent an entire day with this guy 127 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and his name is all over this stuff, but in 128 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 1: the Michael orbit, because if I say it, I've always 129 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: gotten away with it, then I'll just do that then 130 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: he tries to say I found out about the allegations 131 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: about AI pornography from Lo Bianco. Well, Labianco told us 132 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: on this program, he said no, Micah told me that 133 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: he found out from an employee in the treasurer's office. 134 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: These may sound like. 135 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Little lies or little untruths, or little conflicting statements, but 136 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: when you put them all together, just like how did 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: he end up in Game three of the NBA Finals 138 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: with the high profile known felon. 139 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: When it's one conflicting statement or lie or. 140 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Deception after another, you put them together and you realize 141 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: this is a pattern of a behavior from this guy. 142 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: He is a habitual pathological liar who will say or 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: do anything to save himself. He will throw anyone under 144 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the bus. He has harmed several people who did nothing 145 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: but try to help him. He has caused them great 146 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: grief and consternation and expense to do the right thing, 147 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: and he doesn't give a damn. 148 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: That's who Micah beckw with. 149 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: Is a person who only cares about himself and will 150 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: throw anybody under the bus he has to, and will 151 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: lie about anything he has to to try to make 152 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: himself look better. The problem is now everybody's onto it. 153 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: There have been no indictments, there have been no charges. 154 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: At this point, where is the governor on this? It 155 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: is the Braun beckwith administration. 156 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: That's a great question casey because Mike Braun knows exactly 157 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: what he is too. But because Mike Braun is such 158 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: and we talked about this yesterday. Uh with Braun, Broun's 159 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: a very meager, timid person. He's a coward, he's gutless. 160 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Go back to January sixth. He was a real billy 161 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: badass on the election, the issues with the election, and 162 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: we gotta not certify the election, and we got to 163 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: stand up and we gotta this, and we got to 164 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: that until some people went into the Capitol building then 165 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, well, I guess none of that happened. 166 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: Let's just sign off and get out of here. Mike 167 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: bron has showed who he was on that day and 168 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: this is how he's handled Micah. Mike Bron is petrified 169 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: to stand up to Micah because he's worried about the 170 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: people in Micah's orbit coming at him. Mike Braun craves acceptance, 171 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: he craves being liked, and he is pathetically scared of 172 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: his lieutenant governor, and even though he knows exactly what 173 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: he is, will not stand up to him.