1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: People have had enough of the utility bills. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well he was talking about the data centers 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: and how much they're talking. You know, they're taking. But 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: we're also have the rate hikes that are going up everywhere. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: So multiple outlets have reported on this. Look, I mean, 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: you've seen twenty thirty percent increases. Of course, there was 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: that big meeting last night for the AES customers. There's 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: another big proposal for them. The consumer has gotten totally 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: screwed on their utility bills the last four or five years, 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: and it is maddening because the utilities are a monopoly. 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: You can't opt out, you can't shop, you got to 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: have them, and they're appointed by the government, right, So 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I think that's where people they say, look, I can't 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: there is no competition whatever. They say, I gotta have it, 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: and you gotta have lights that turn on. You got 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: to have heat in your home in the winter. So 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I get screwed. And it just seems like the shareholders 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: of these utilities keep making more and more money at 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: my expense and I'm just trying to live my life, 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: like I don't think anybody mind's paying for electricity. I 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: don't think anybody minds paying for heat in their home. 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: But it's the same thing with the property tax. I 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: don't think people, you know, obviously think a lot of 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: people believe that you shouldn't you should not have to 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: pay any property tax. But you didn't see a you know, 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: a you know, a fur over this until the last 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: four or five years where you started seeing the doubling 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: and tripling of property. It used to be, hey, you're 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: building up one percent, or you know, hey you're building 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: up you know, thirty bucks or whatever, and of course 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: you grumble about it, but then you just fifty bucks. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: You just pay it and go on. But when you're 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: seeing six, seven, eight hundred dollars increases for people, yeah, 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: now rage has set in. And that's what you're seeing 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: with the utility bills. You're seeing not only these increases, 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: but you're seeing them be massive in size and scope, 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: and people are pissed. 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Off and they're just going to keep increasing as well. 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: So Angelo, this Italian restaurant down in Evansville posted a 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: sign saying it will no longer serve Center Point Energy 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: employees where they're affiliates. Uh, good for them. I like this, 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Sorry for the inconvenience, but we have been inconvenience. 43 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, look there's probably there. I'm sure there 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of well meaning people who work, you know, 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: for Center Point Energy. You have nothing to do with that. 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: They're just people digging ditches or taking your phone calls 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. They're not the decision makers. And so I 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: feel bad for these people that they're sort of like 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: public Enemy number one, where they're probably just trying to, 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, go to work each day, earn a living, 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: and they're paying the same stuff that you're paying. But 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: at some point you do have to put your foot 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: down and start making stands right. And if that's what 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: it takes to draw some attention to this. Here's what's 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: interesting though. Did I send this to you? I bet 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I did? And this is this is everything that's going 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: on in our country. Did I send you the Jesse 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Brown thing yesterday? You did? Okay, very good. So Jesse 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Brown is a member of the Indianapolis City County Council. 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: He is an avowed socialist. However, he is by far 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: the most honest member on that board, say maybe maybe 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Josh Bain. And so there was this big meeting with 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: AES last night. The utility provider here in city of 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Indianapolis for many, many. 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: People public hearing, and. 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: For the most part, I didn't hear anything from any 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: state lawmakers Republicans who control everything. You didn't hear any 68 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: state reps saying, well, let's go to this meeting. If 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: they are out there, let me know. I'm happy to 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: give you credit. He just didn't see any posts or 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: anything from anybody. Senators, certainly the governor. Where's the lieutenant governor? 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Where is he? Where is the yes where is he 73 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: has not been saying we put the milk carton photo 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: up because he has not been seen or heard from 75 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: him several days. Somebody maybe he's out of the country. 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe he's joined Diego on some India. 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Who knows, but nobody from his office. Where's Rokeda Diego 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: any of these people right like you're not seeing these 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Republican politicians have the outrage over these skyrocketing utility bills. 80 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: But Jesse Brown, the socialist was there. He could go. 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: He went to the meeting, and he was posting about it, 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: and he was encouraging people to come. And I don't 83 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: know if he was able to speak at the meeting 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: or not. But what does that say when our Republican 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: lawmakers are so in bed with these utilities, which Capitol 86 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Chronicle laid that out about the meals and the tickets, 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: right donations. 88 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: And the bullying. Even if you're a mayor of a 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: city and you stand up and say no, we don't 90 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: want any more increases, you get yelled at. 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about Austin Bonta, the mayor of Portage 92 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: who ed Soliday, who's the head of utilities in the House, 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: sent him some very mean text saying he was basically 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: going to try to keep his city from getting any 95 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: additional money going forward if he kept criticizing utilities in 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: the web? 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 2: Is Soliday carol because it might affect his steak dinner? Yeah? 98 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: So, I mean, but think about this. None of the 99 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Republicans that I'm aware of your in the General Assembly 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: are there passionately fighting for you. But the socialist guy 101 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: cares more about you being able to your wallet than 102 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: the Republicans. What does that say about who these Republicans 103 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: actually are? Where the avowed socialist is doing more to 104 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: fight special interest and to stand up for you and 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: your wallet than the Republicans. 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another business down in Evansville that is going 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: to be hosting a night without power. They're just trying 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: to raise awareness for all of the high energy costs. 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Well and again, like I feel bad for these Centerpoint 110 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: employees because there's I'm sure many fine people, but at 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: some point you got to start making a stand because 112 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: we the consumer are getting screwed. You're getting screwed. If 113 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: you got Duke, you get screwed. If you got center Point, 114 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: you're screed. You got as any of these people were. 115 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: It almost seems like all of them you're seeing just 116 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: continual rate increases and at what point are you priced 117 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: out of living? 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: So as that was their fourth public hearing, and I'm curious, 119 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: after all of the data that they've gathered, did they decide, oh, 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: we're going to have to do the infrastructure upgrades on 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: our own? 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Look like, did they what? What did? 123 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: What did they come to? 124 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: At the end of all that, they're they're profit magnets, 125 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: They're they're most of these people are for profit companies. 126 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: They're not going to stop trying to make profit. This 127 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: is where the gut This sounds weird coming from me, 128 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: but this is the system they've set up where the 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: government is the oversight, The government is the parent. The 130 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: government has to tell these people, no, you've had enough, 131 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: You've charged these people enough. But the government isn't blameless. 132 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: And then in this either because they keep putting these 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: megabuildings and these data centers and all these other things 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: that are sucking all this power. So everybody's back in this. 135 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: You know it's not bad you, but you know who's 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: getting screwed. You. You're the victim in all of this. 137 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: Everybody else is doing bad things to cause it, and 138 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you're the one who has to pay for it.