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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan,

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Speaker 1: they seized a fan morning show with KB JB and Jeff.

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Speaker 2: The Daniel Jones situation is fascinating and tomorrow four o'clock

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Speaker 2: will know. But like apparently like they're really considering the transition.

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Speaker 2: Tag I did that situation?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: For people who don't know?

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Speaker 2: That means that he'll be tendered the average of the

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Speaker 2: ten highest paid quarterbacks, and the Colts have the ability

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Speaker 2: to match in terms of an offer sheet. They don't

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Speaker 2: get any compensation if you would transition him, which I

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Speaker 2: would understand.

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Speaker 3: Why they do that. You do lose control.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if a team gave him an

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Speaker 2: offer sheet. I think that'll be a story that we're

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Speaker 2: going to be watching very closely over the next couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot to look forward to the next couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks for the Indianapolis Colts and all the National

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Speaker 3: Football League. The combine has come in, gone the snow.

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Speaker 3: It's come. I don't know if it's gone yet. It's

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Speaker 3: on the ground. If you're just waking up and rolling

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Speaker 3: out of the rock this morning. Keep in mind that

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Speaker 3: I went to bed last night thinking there might be

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Speaker 3: a light dusting where I live, and man, I woke

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Speaker 3: up to about three inches of snow and that caused

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Speaker 3: a slow commute. A lot of schools are on delayed

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Speaker 3: opening right now, and we'll get to the combine stuff momentarily.

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Speaker 3: But you were saying from the west side end mark,

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Speaker 3: you had a little bit of a slower just pay

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Speaker 3: attention commute, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of those situations where the snow's falling. The

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Speaker 5: plows haven't necessarily been on the roads yet really, so

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Speaker 5: you know, markings on the road a little harder to find,

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Speaker 5: So be mindful of where you're at in your lane

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Speaker 5: and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, give.

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Speaker 5: Yourself an a little buffer zone. Why can I give

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Speaker 5: you some advice on driving please? This is what my

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Speaker 5: dad told me. Just don't hit anything that's not moving.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 5: Driving over Eagle Creek. I was very mindful of that.

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Speaker 3: Try not get the moving stuff.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'll tell you what my aunt I remember back

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Speaker 6: he had a He used to drive a red Toyota

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Speaker 6: grandma's backyard.

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Speaker 4: It's paved out.

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Speaker 6: It's like a parking lot basically, and my aunt backed

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Speaker 6: dead into his park red Toyota Echo and he was livid.

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Speaker 6: He was like, how do you hit something that's not

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Speaker 6: moving in his bright red So Mark, make sure you

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Speaker 6: take that advice from mister Boyd.

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Speaker 3: True story. I had an aunt many many years ago

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Speaker 3: who hit the one car that was in a shopping

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Speaker 3: lot parking lot because she didn't want to not be social,

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Speaker 3: so she wanted to park next to that car and

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Speaker 3: she hit it.

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Speaker 4: That's weird.

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Speaker 3: That's a truth. You can't make that up. That is

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Speaker 3: a true story.

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Speaker 7: I think I want to disparage Jeff's aunts on this

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Speaker 7: Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: But I wonderful that long ago, a wonderful woman. But

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Speaker 3: Combine has come and gone. For the most part, we

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Speaker 3: saw the underwear Olympics, if you want to call him that,

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Speaker 3: all the press conferences, the interviews, the really convention of coaches,

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Speaker 3: general managers, media, former players, analysts, all kinds of things

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Speaker 3: like that. You guys spent the entire week out there.

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Speaker 3: I had to cut it short and go do some

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Speaker 3: family things at the very end. But all in all,

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Speaker 3: James Boyd, what did this combine mean for the cults

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Speaker 3: of anything. In other words, what did we find out

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Speaker 6: Well, I would say the big news is that Anthony

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Speaker 6: Richardson Senior has requested a trade and the Colts will

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Speaker 6: So this is not contentious. This is not something where

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Speaker 6: they're going to try to hold him hostage. And from

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Speaker 6: what I understand, there's a lot of mutual respect on

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Speaker 6: both sides. It's just one of those things where they

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Speaker 6: think that a best case scenario for both sides at

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Speaker 6: this point is to let him move on. I did

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Speaker 6: get an update on his eye as well from his

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Speaker 6: questions about this. People were like, oh, you see in

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not a doctor, not an optopatrist, but

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Speaker 6: that is a fact. And then on top of that,

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Speaker 6: the other big news that I would say emerge from

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Speaker 6: the combine is Daniel Jones and his contract situation, and Kevin,

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you probably s some of the reporting from ESPN.

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Speaker 6: I was able to confirm a lot of that myself

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Speaker 6: last night, and I put out an explainer this morning

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Speaker 6: basically saying why the transition tag different than the franchise

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Speaker 6: tag now appears to be a possibility for the Colts.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot going on, And I will say just

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Speaker 6: for clarity's sake, because I know this can get jargony,

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Speaker 6: it can get confusing.

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Speaker 4: But basically, if you are fan of the show, fan of.

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Speaker 6: The Colts, whatever, and you're listening, they can only use

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Speaker 6: one tag on one player each off season. You can't

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Speaker 6: use the franchise tag on one guy, this transition tag

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Speaker 6: on the other. So, for example, if they tag Alec Pierce,

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones is the free If they tag Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 6: Alec Pierce is a free agent.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I want you to get a little bit

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Speaker 7: into more of the difference in the transition tag and

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Speaker 7: the franchise tag James just a second, but to set

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Speaker 7: it all up, deadline tomorrow at four o'clock, Yes to

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Speaker 7: remind everybody. So four o'clock Tuesday deadline on the tag,

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Speaker 7: so we will have an answer when we do the

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Speaker 7: show Wednesday morning. John mid show tomorrow, he will have

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Speaker 7: an answer on either Jones or Pierce, seemingly, and then

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Speaker 7: free agency officially begins a week from Wednesday. We really

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Speaker 7: know freatency begins a week from today. That's when the

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Speaker 7: legal tampering period we see agreed to terms becomes the

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Speaker 7: phrase of the year. Right, So that would be Monday,

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Speaker 7: and that's at noon on Monday, Is that right, James,

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's the four o'clock I want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So again, that's a week from today.

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Speaker 7: So if they just tag one of them, then that

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Speaker 7: know that. Let's say they tag Jones Pierce. I'm sure

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Speaker 7: his agent has a healthy understanding after combine week of

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Speaker 7: of timeline. Tuesday, four o'clock tag deadline Monday at noon,

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Speaker 7: that's when you know what gets real, James, explain it.

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Speaker 7: Franchise tag difference, transition tag difference for everybody, including myself.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's keep it in English and feel free

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Speaker 6: to step in and say, hey, doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 6: So for the non exclusive franchise tag, which is the

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Speaker 6: point nine million for quarterbacks in twenty twenty six, the

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Speaker 6: transition tag is cheaper because unlike with the non exclusive

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Speaker 6: franchise tag that takes the average with the five top

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Speaker 6: salaries over the last five years at your position, this

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Speaker 4: So long story.

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Speaker 6: Short, it's a cheaper option. The transition tag is cheaper. However,

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Speaker 6: when you put the franchise tag on a player, if

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Speaker 6: you want to let that player go on that offer sheet,

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Speaker 6: you're entitled to get two first round.

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Speaker 4: Picks as compensation.

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Speaker 6: So usually teams will put the more exclusive franchise tag

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Speaker 6: or not exclusives I'm sorry, franchise tag on a player

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Speaker 6: because Jeff, they know, are you giving up two first

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Speaker 6: round picks with Daniel Jones, No, exactly, So that makes

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Speaker 6: it a point, the same with Alec Pierce saying with

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Speaker 3: It's very, very very rare.

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Speaker 6: But for the transition tag, let's say, Jeff, I make

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Speaker 6: and you leave. You know what, Hey, I say, I say, well,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I'll let you go.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to pay that much.

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Speaker 6: I'm not entitled to any draft compensation. I don't get

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Speaker 6: any picks. That is a massive difference between getting two

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Speaker 6: in theory, the transition tag should make more teams more

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Speaker 6: inclined to want to pursue you. But from my understanding

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Speaker 6: and the way I view it, Jeff is the culture

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Speaker 6: basically saying, if we use the transition tag, if Daniel

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Speaker 6: want to just be secure, we're gonna put the transition

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Speaker 4: Will match any offer for you. But the caveat there.

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Speaker 6: Is that again, when you put the transition tag on

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Speaker 6: The Cult will probably match any offer for him, but

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Speaker 6: they're probably banking on him having a diminished market because

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Speaker 6: he's coming off an injury and he's not, i mean collectively,

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Speaker 6: as you look at his entire resume, a great player.

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Speaker 6: So I know it's a lot of words and a

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Speaker 6: think the cults are basically saying, we will use the

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Speaker 6: cheaper option to keep you in a coach uniform, will

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Speaker 6: most likely match any offer that teams will want you

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Speaker 6: that other teams will be willing to pay you or

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Speaker 6: why they think they will be more open to use

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Speaker 6: any But again, the risk you run of tagging Daniel

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Speaker 6: that Alex Pierce then will hit the open market and

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Speaker 6: he could get and will get paid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think it's interesting because I think Pierce would have

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Speaker 7: the more competitive market. Jones plays the more important position, yes,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's what makes this a little bit difficult.

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Speaker 6: So I have a question for you all, Jeff Kevin,

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Speaker 6: what is their backup playing at quarterback if Daniel Jones

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Speaker 6: not part of the equation.

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Speaker 3: I think Robbie makes a good point here. I'll answer

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Speaker 3: that with him because I kind of agree with him

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Speaker 3: as far as alternatives. I still want Jones back, but

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Speaker 3: he says, Tag Pierce, let you look at the market.

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Speaker 3: If you can resign him, fine, if not, go after

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. I think he's just as good as Jones.

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Speaker 4: They won't do that. They won't do that. Your kids

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Speaker 3: Point is that's the alternative. That's probably their best alternative,

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Speaker 4: So here's how breaking Kyler Murray on the cost a

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Speaker 3: But right now, here are your options? You ready, and

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Speaker 4: That's right around the tag Nmber.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly why I could see the argument for

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Speaker 4: But that list, Jeff did not include fair Hope Alabama.

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Speaker 6: So here's a question, has he Here's a question that

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Speaker 4: Like, well, Philip Rivers. Do you think Daniels making it

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Speaker 6: Did you not see enough of Riley Leonard last year

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Speaker 3: This is all about happiness.

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Speaker 6: That's what we call it free agency, and so if

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 7: I am not giving Daniel Jones read off the franchise

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Speaker 4: What was it, forty forty.

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Speaker 7: I'm not giving Daniel Jones forty three million coming off

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Speaker 7: So I think that's what makes this challenging for those

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Speaker 3: One name, and again I'm not advocating.

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Speaker 6: Is it posturing or positioning whatever you're doing to kind

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Speaker 6: of negotiating? Yeah, see, yeah, negotiating seeing who is going

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Speaker 6: to who is it?

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Speaker 4: Perhaps blink first is.

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Speaker 7: The Vitans that have said to Daniel Jones, here's fifty

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Speaker 7: million annually.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what they are in theory and option,

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Speaker 6: But they're also way over their cap, like they got

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Speaker 6: to get rid of a bunch of guys Jones under

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Speaker 6: the cap and then I mean money wise, it seems

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Speaker 6: like they will be kind of difficult to make it

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Speaker 6: work for Daniel Jones. But again, teams can get creative,

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Speaker 6: teams can get desperate, and do the Colts want to

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Speaker 6: run that risk if they really do not have a

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Speaker 6: backup plan for losing Daniel Jones, because they told us

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Speaker 6: all along that they want them back. And I get

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Speaker 6: what you're saying, Kevin about you know, both of them

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Speaker 6: singing each other's praises.

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Speaker 4: But this is business and.

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Speaker 6: Quite frankly, it is most likely the last time for

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones to get a massive contract. And when will

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Speaker 6: you ever have this much leverage coming off of Torn Achilles.

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Speaker 3: The biggest question for all of you, especially you Mark,

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Speaker 3: so pay close attention. What's more likely, gentlemen, that the

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Speaker 3: Colts end up with both Alec Pearson Daniel Jones or

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Speaker 3: the Bears moved to Hammond, Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I like my chances on. I don't know will Mark

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Speaker 4: sweater swayey, he hasn't put it on yet. I'm not

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Speaker 4: a real fan, not a real fan.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm trying to not. I'm trying to avoid an

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Speaker 5: HR meeting. Later, someone walks in, like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Why are you getting undressed? Are you Kevin Bowen?

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden? Did you bring your speed up today?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Not for this weather? All right, just

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Speaker 3: double checking, we'll update you.

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Speaker 4: What's that though?

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Speaker 6: If the Bear has actually moved to ham in Indiana,

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Speaker 6: wit he Mark to do a speedar run around the laugh?

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Speaker 3: Sure I'm in for that.

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Speaker 4: An orange stripe.

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Speaker 3: Something people do want to see. The Fan Invitational twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six Golf Outing is going to happen April thirtieth

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Speaker 3: this year, a little bit earlier out of Legends Golf Club.

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Speaker 3: And if you get online and get the early bird

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Speaker 3: special right now until six pm Friday, March sixth, twenty

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Speaker 3: five dollars off per person or one hundred dollars off

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Speaker 3: per foursome. The Fan Invitational twenty twenty six Golf Outing

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Speaker 3: presented by Franciscan Health again legends golf and supports a

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Speaker 3: great cause. All the proceeds benefit the Franciscan Health Foundation.

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Speaker 3: Will all be out there having a good time as well,

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Speaker 3: all right, Mark James on the way to talk about Florida,

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Speaker 3: it was the weather was better down in Saint Pete.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure big race yesterday. We'll talk to jay Z

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Speaker 3: about that. Next to ninety three five and one A

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Speaker 3: seven five the Fans.

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Speaker 1: The seased a Fan Morning show with KB Haby and Jeff.

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Speaker 8: Four championships send. No better way to let the field

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Speaker 8: know that you have every intention of winning a fifth

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Speaker 8: than to have a dominant day and the seeds that

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Speaker 8: opener at Saint Petersburg, the lead belows to twelve point

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Speaker 8: eight seconds. He weaves to the bottom of the racetrack

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Speaker 8: back to the high side. Clip checkers are out and

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Speaker 8: Alex below will kick off the seeds and in dominant

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Speaker 8: fashion the way he ended twenty twenty five, he wins

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Speaker 8: the fires called Grand Prix of Saint Petersburg.

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Speaker 3: The best broadcast in all of audio and radio, the

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Speaker 3: India Racing Network, and yesterday Mark James on the call

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Speaker 3: at Saint Petersburg once again, Alex Below winning. He's at

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Speaker 3: a twenty five about a twenty four to twenty five

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Speaker 3: percent win rate. That's insane in auto racing. Insane. And

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Speaker 3: we are joined now by that voice Mark James on

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Speaker 3: the Paylesslookers hotline. Good morning, mister James, and I mean

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Speaker 3: that you guys, the broadcast you do, and I've talked

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Speaker 3: about this before, it is breathless, is exciting, it is

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Speaker 3: on point, it is fantastic, and I love what you

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Speaker 3: guys do.

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Speaker 8: Well. You guys are obviously the mothership. You're very kind

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Speaker 8: to say so, and we're happy that people, you know,

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Speaker 8: they seem to enjoy our broadcast at the level of

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Speaker 8: which they do. I think a lot of that stems

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Speaker 8: from the fact that, you know, the overwhelming majority of

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Speaker 8: us are are set to Indiana guys or Midwestern guys

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Speaker 8: that we grow up with the love of indiecar racing

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Speaker 8: and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and we think it's easy

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Speaker 8: to share that passion with the fans and how we

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Speaker 8: describe it. In fact, we had Alex Haydon with us

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Speaker 8: AID co anchor of MRN yesterday. He was one of

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Speaker 8: our turn it ouncers. And you know, Alex was actually

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Speaker 8: born in much of the Indiana and lived in Indiana

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Speaker 8: for a number of years before he moved down south,

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Speaker 8: So you know, he's a a who's your native. And

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Speaker 8: I think we got to seize it off to a

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Speaker 8: great start, and certainly not as great of a start

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Speaker 8: as Alex Felow got his season off too, but we

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Speaker 8: had a good day anyway.

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Speaker 7: We think Mark always great to hear your voice when

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Speaker 7: Alex Plow's ass post race race number one of the season,

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Speaker 7: are you beatable? I think it sends quite the compliment

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Speaker 7: to what he is doing right now. I compare to

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Speaker 7: the allat Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 3: In his prime.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 7: To me when I'm struck by Mark is just you

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Speaker 7: look at the rest of the field and last year

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Speaker 7: and even yesterday, there's parody throughout, like I mean two

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Speaker 7: through fifteen, throw it in a hat and who knows.

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Speaker 7: We obviously saw Team Penske have struggles last season, and

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Speaker 7: then you know yesterday Scott McLaughlin's up there all race long.

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Speaker 7: Can you put into words like what Alex Plow has

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Speaker 7: done in a series where you usually do not see this.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's one of the oldest cliches. I think

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Speaker 8: Alex Flow and Barry Wantser and everybody with that race

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Speaker 8: team's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers. And

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Speaker 8: I don't mean to insult the rest of the field,

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Speaker 8: because as you suggests, there's some great stories throughout and

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Speaker 8: some legendary talents and some great teams. But I mean,

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Speaker 8: there is something about this particular package that they've hit on.

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Speaker 8: But I think a lot of us got to do

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Speaker 8: with the driver's ability. But there's something that they are

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Speaker 8: beating their heads against the wall collectively to figure out

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Speaker 8: what he's doing that they're not. And I don't know,

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Speaker 8: it's not a matter of You almost think it's gotten

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Speaker 8: to the point where he's got to come back to

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Speaker 8: earth a little bit because I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 8: else can do anything close to what he's been doing.

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Speaker 8: But they'll all keep swinging at it, for sure. You

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Speaker 8: just keep waiting for maybe a little bad luck to

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Speaker 8: come his way. But you know, another old cliche is

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Speaker 8: the harder you work, the luckier you get, and I

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Speaker 8: think that seems to describe team perfectly.

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Speaker 6: Mark, I'm not sure if bad luck is what we

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Speaker 6: would use to describe Penske Auto Racing last year. But

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Speaker 6: now going into this season, how would you describe perhaps

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Speaker 6: the things that they are trying to do and how

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Speaker 6: much of a microscope do you think they'll be under

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Speaker 6: after I would say realistically kind of having a stand

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Speaker 6: on the legacy last year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's funny because you look at what

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Speaker 8: kind of season they had, and I think, what's unfortunate

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Speaker 8: for all of these teams when when you look at

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Speaker 8: Plow at eight wins and all the podiums and top

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Speaker 8: fives that he had, that's going to make everybody else's

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Speaker 8: year look like it's not up to par. And so

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Speaker 8: that's where the natural comparison comes there. The natural inclination

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Speaker 8: is to say, hey, look they're having it off year.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's making everybody look like they had it

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Speaker 8: off year. But I mean Scott McLoughlin, for instance, picked

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Speaker 8: up is what third poll in the last five races,

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Speaker 8: and he ran a really good race and he gained

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Speaker 8: some momentum. I think it was a good first effort.

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Speaker 8: All at all for David Belucaus. It shaped up to

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Speaker 8: be a disastrous weekend for Joseph Nugarten after the crash

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Speaker 8: on Friday and not getting out of the first round

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Speaker 8: of qualifying, but he he drove a hell of a race,

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Speaker 8: I think, and getting himself inside the top ten. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know they don't do what they do for top tens,

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Speaker 8: but I think given what you suggest the struggles last year,

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Speaker 8: I think all it all, Team Pesky probably feels like

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Speaker 8: they're excited to get to Phoenix, going back there for

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Speaker 8: the first time I think since twenty eighteen, and that's

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Speaker 8: a track that traditionally Team Pesky has done very very

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Speaker 8: well at.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to Alex Pelow real quickly

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Speaker 3: if I can, mark, because it seems to me that

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Speaker 3: throughout the history of auto racing, whenever a driver is dominating,

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Speaker 3: there's a crew chief behind him. Jeff Gordon of course

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Speaker 3: had Ray Evernham, Jimmy Johnson had Chad Canals, and now

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Speaker 3: Alex below has Ricky Davis. How important is it that

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Speaker 3: the right driver be with the right crew chief, with

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Speaker 3: the right team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Ricky Davis. Barry wantser that entire race team.

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Speaker 8: I mean we've seen it over the years in all

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Speaker 8: forms of sports. I mean with football, with you being

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Speaker 8: in sync with that offensive coordinator in baseball, with a

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Speaker 8: pitcher with a good pitching coach, or a hitter with

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Speaker 8: a good hitting coach. I mean, you know, chemistry, I

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Speaker 8: think is very real, it's very value across all forms

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Speaker 8: of sports. And I don't know that you can hit

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Speaker 8: on better chemistry. I mean you look at over the

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Speaker 8: years that the drivers that have left teams where they

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Speaker 8: had some success and maybe took a step up to

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Speaker 8: a Ganassi or a Penske or whatever, and for whatever

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Speaker 8: the reason, the chemistry wasn't right or Andretti and it

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Speaker 8: just didn't work out and they didn't last very long.

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Speaker 8: But there's certainly a formula there that they've hit on

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Speaker 8: that a lot of people are trying to emulate. But

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Speaker 8: as you know, chemistry is a very very difficult thing

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Speaker 8: to duplicate. It's tough to achieve and even tougher to duplicate.

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Speaker 7: Great Mark Jaymes, he's with US air course, the voice

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Speaker 7: of the Indy Car Radio Network, and the five hundred

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Speaker 7: coming up here in two and a half months certainly

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Speaker 7: make you think about it on a weather day like today,

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Speaker 7: mark out to Phoenix coming up Saturday. I believe the

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Speaker 7: first time Indy Car has been there in nearly a decade.

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Speaker 7: It is a busy, busy month of March for IndyCar.

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Speaker 7: We haven't said that, I think in too many recent

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Speaker 7: years here. What do you recall about trips out to

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Speaker 7: that Phoenix Oval.

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Speaker 8: Well, I was fortunate enough in the early days of

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Speaker 8: the IRL to go out to Phoenix. I remember Jim

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Speaker 8: Guthrie with that small Blueprint Motorsports team beat Tony Stewart

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Speaker 8: in the rest of the field. I think it was

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Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety seven, and you know, the first few

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Speaker 8: years that the series went there. Then I remember the

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Speaker 8: return in twenty eighteen, and it's you know, that's been

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Speaker 8: a hot mid of open wheel racing. I mean, the

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Speaker 8: Copperworld Classic was one of the biggest events in history

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Speaker 8: and it's kind of storied history and it's I think

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Speaker 8: it's great that that IndyCar Racing is back there and

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Speaker 8: looking forward to sharing the bill as our Alex Haydon

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Speaker 8: from MRN, who worked with us over the weekend, as

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Speaker 8: we said, he put it, he said, listen, he said,

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Speaker 8: there's no undercard next weekend. I mean, you you've got you,

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Speaker 8: You've You've got a bunch of Banner series. They're the

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Speaker 8: best in in North America, all racing together on one

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Speaker 8: weekend and it should be an absolute holiday from motorsports fan.

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Speaker 8: Going to be interesting to see how it all shakes

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Speaker 8: out all these mile mile and a quarter tracks. You know,

662
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 8: the desire to get that second groove is always there

663
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 8: for those drivers. We can create some passing opportunities.

664
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 9: Uh.

665
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Speaker 8: In addition to practice and qualifying, there is going to

666
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Speaker 8: be a high line practice and an effort to rubber

667
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 8: in that racetrack a little bit and to give you

668
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 8: an idea of just what kind of area code he's in.

669
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 8: Again opposed to the as opposed to the rest of

670
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Speaker 8: the crowd, I mean after the Phoenix Test a couple

671
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 8: of weeks ago, David Malucas and Will Power were either

672
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 8: skeptical or or almost pessimistic about a second group coming in,

673
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 8: whereas Alex Pelow was commident one would be there. At

674
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 8: least he felt good about it. So gonna be interesting

675
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 8: for me to see the reconfiguration. I've not been there

676
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 8: since they essentially flipped it, uh, moved to start finished

677
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 8: slide around, but uh, Phoenix, this phoenix that I think

678
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, it's gonna be a

679
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 8: great weekend at a great race.

680
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: Snory this morning, Mark, just make sure you got the

681
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: right tires on to get started this morning.

682
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 8: Well, I'm I'm a beneficiary one of the greatest educational

683
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 8: tools ever invented, the two hour delay. So I'm looking

684
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 8: to clean up your.

685
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: Do they your house when that happens, Do they wave

686
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: like a yellow flag out front of your house?

687
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 9: Yeah?

688
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 8: I just I know that when my phone, when my

689
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 8: phone goes off at five point thirty, in my case,

690
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 8: it's usually good news because that means a two hour delay.

691
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 8: So I was happy to get dead call this morning.

692
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: You are the best. Mark. It's always a pleasure to

693
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: talk to you, buddy.

694
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 8: Guys, Thanks for what you do for us. Appreciate the

695
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 8: kind words.

696
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: Who is the goat?

697
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 8: I told you all that I was the greatest of

698
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 8: all time.

699
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: Shorty. Here's Michael and the Biline. I shot on em all.

700
00:31:52,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 9: Goat or goat? This guy sucks of the week?

701
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: All right, Mark Dyton in honor of that Hammond Bears sweatshirt,

702
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: E're rocking back there. I'm gonna let you lead off

703
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: today for the what do you want to do? The

704
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: great got to the week or the bad gut of

705
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: the week. We're gonna start at great.

706
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: Let's go great despite the snow this morning and whatnot.

707
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: The Chicago Bulls were owing eleven in February.

708
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: The tank is on.

709
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 5: However, yesterday they faced the Milwaukee Bucks, and who was

710
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: in attendance Bears head coach Ben Johnson. He t he's

711
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: taking his shirt off again, and then what happened? The

712
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: Bulls throttled the Bucks, including a twenty one and zero

713
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: run to start the fourth quarter. They win one hundred

714
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: and twenty to ninety seven, proving once again that Ben

715
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 5: Johnson owns the state of Wisconsin, regardless of sports. Will

716
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 5: he soon own to Hammond, Indiana is the question he

717
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 5: might need to He's taking names in Wisconsin, that's for sure.

718
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: All right. We'll go in order of right to left.

719
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: James Boyd your next.

720
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Grayson Gilliard, the senior at Center Grove.

721
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 6: She got it done with twenty three points in the

722
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: Class four A state championship. Center Grove comes back from

723
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 6: eleven down in that game, tying a state record for

724
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: the biggest comeback to finish our season twenty nine. And

725
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 6: oh that was a great cap to the overall girls

726
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 6: basketball season here in the state.

727
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go with Joe Keller. It was

728
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: Joe Keller. You ask if you don't know. He's the

729
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: Fisher's swim coach. He had had brain surgery for cancer

730
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: after last year's state meet in swimming, and he knew

731
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: about his diagnosis before the state meet, but he didn't

732
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: mention it to his team because he didn't want them

733
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: to be distracted. He comes back this year and the

734
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: girls finished second two weeks ago, and the Fisher's boys

735
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: team finished fifth at state this past weekend. So I

736
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: just want to say shout out to Joe Keller. Amazing

737
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: comeback for him personally, and also Fisher swimming team getting it.

738
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: They've got it going now. They're on the right track. Man.

739
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: Kind of fun to watch.

740
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 7: Well, not easy to follow that one, Jeff makesure gone

741
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 7: last after that one, because mine certainly not as sentimental

742
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 7: as that at all. I came across my YouTube algorithm

743
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 7: this weekend and I found a human being that created

744
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 7: a twenty two minute video of March Madness buzzer Beaters.

745
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: Can you send that link along?

746
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 7: And I watched it and I might have taken off

747
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 7: clothes watching it. It doesn't take money to get him

748
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 7: to take a short Pear's March Madness, buzzer Beaters.

749
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: It was absolutely epic.

750
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 7: I will watch it three or four more times and

751
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 7: on a weather day like today, I need to watch it.

752
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: Will you post a link? Are you gonna hold that

753
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 3: to yourself?

754
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, post the link, Hey, this is

755
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: the family show here.

756
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 7: Didn't think about posting the link, but I will certainly

757
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 7: point you in the right direction.

758
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 6: All right, I thought for a second, there you're gonna go,

759
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 6: Luke Heren go to twenty two minutes highlight film.

760
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: I mean, now we'll get the juices fun as well.

761
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 4: He don't get me started.

762
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 7: Kind of a quiet night for hoops locally tonight tomorrow, James,

763
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: Luke Aroen go if you can get some and Andre

764
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 7: and highlights in there with Luke Caroen Gody twenty two

765
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 7: minutes of highlights.

766
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Maddie, I'll talk to you tomorrow.

767
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: Eleven minutes of that, and then eleven minutes a Notre Dame.

768
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: Right there you go.

769
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 7: I know, notice we haven't mentioned Notre Dame's basketball went

770
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 7: over the weekend in North Carolina State. We mentioned the

771
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 7: duke performance, but we didn't mention the North Carolina State.

772
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: Is that not in the rundown?

773
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: It was not in the rundown.

774
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 7: But I figured, I always figure you're very selective in

775
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 7: terms when we pick Mark, when we mentioned the Notre

776
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 7: Dame men's bast.

777
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: Every at the end of every update, I leave a

778
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: couple of things for the guys, and I say anything

779
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: else you guys would like to mention. That is, you

780
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: have not brought it up in two straight updates.

781
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're a real fan.

782
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 7: But yet you openly brought up the duke performance last week.

783
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 7: So I'm a little confused on the selective mentioning here.

784
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 6: Cameras, Mark, we want some ferns to moving up in here.

785
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: Uh huh uh huh, all right, my bad.

786
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 5: Over the week What the hell was this US Open

787
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 5: golf tweet over the weekend?

788
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: Did you see this twenty five? Are you ready tweeting that.

789
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: The US Open is returning to Inverness Club in twenty

790
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 5: in Inverness twenty forty five. Never in my life have

791
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 5: I seen a nineteen year like pre show announcement. I

792
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 5: liked how some of the comments. Some of the comments

793
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: in the tweets were like, macully taken Kevin to that,

794
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 5: My newborn son will be eligible for this and I'm

795
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: twenty forty five.

796
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 7: Charlie Woods's kids will playing its grandkids?

797
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: Am I missing? Maybe Kevin can? Am my missing? Why

798
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 5: would they announce this so far in an.

799
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: R BUSJA does this?

800
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 7: It's so stupid, Like is that golf course going to

801
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 7: exist in twenty seven weeks.

802
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 5: Going to We're gonna be almost sixty years old by

803
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: the time that too.

804
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 7: I think Jack Mewhort's remember there, shout out to former

805
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 7: Colt guard Jack Mewhort there.

806
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: I saw that and I couldn't. I couldn't.

807
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: I thought it was an early April Fools joke. I'm like,

808
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: is this a prank?

809
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 7: When I saw Mark tweeting about golf from this weekend,

810
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 7: I was like, wait, is this the Shane Lowry collapse

811
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 7: or is this actually a serious golf tweet here?

812
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: I didn't know what was happening. I thought I was

813
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: getting punked.

814
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, So I'll go with my bag go

815
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 6: to the week I would say Bruce Pearl. I don't

816
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 6: know if you saw saw like the rank he went

817
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 6: on about Fame of Ohio there, I believe, twenty nine

818
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 6: to zero undefeated, and he was saying, hey, if they

819
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 6: don't win their conference tournament, they shouldn't get into the dance.

820
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 6: And I'm thinking to myself, look, man, if you can't

821
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 6: find a way for that team, who will probably in

822
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: the regular season undefeated, to get into a tournament with

823
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 6: sixty eight teams, then why play the games. I'm not

824
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 6: saying they have to be a number one seed, but

825
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 6: my gosh, not even allowing them to be in it

826
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 6: is ridiculous. And I thought that that was honestly a

827
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 6: disparaging rant on a sport that really I think thrives

828
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 6: on parody.

829
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: At this point in the year, I kind of.

830
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: Feel like Bruce Pearl is auditioning for first Take or

831
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: something these days, because it feels like every week he's

832
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: just throwing something out there.

833
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was thoroughly annoyed by that.

834
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna go with an odd one here.

835
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: My bad go to the week is Lady Luck. What

836
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: does Lady Luck have against big guy Zach Eaedie If

837
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: it wasn't for bad luck, he wouldn't have any luck

838
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: at all. Since he's gotten to the he's going to

839
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: undergo surgery on his left ankle to address lingering, discomfort

840
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: and a stress issue. He's expected to make a full recovery,

841
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: but these ankle problems they're tough for big guys. He

842
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: underwent surgery in June twenty twenty five to stabilize that ankle,

843
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 3: and the hope was that he would return healthy early

844
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: in the season. He's going to miss the rest of

845
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: this year. Obviously there's not much left. But he only

846
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: played in eleven games this year. So I'm just mad

847
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: at Lady Luck because she has not been kind to

848
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: Zacherdy in that ankle.

849
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 7: I will go to the Sunbelt Conference tournament. You all

850
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 7: need to look up their bracket. They have the bracket

851
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 7: that looks like a flying V bracket here to win

852
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 7: their conference tournament, if you are one of the bottom seeds,

853
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 7: you don't have to win one game, two games, three games,

854
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 7: four games, seven games in seven days to win their

855
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 7: conference tournament seven games. You want to talk about load management?

856
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 7: Seven games in seven days to win their conference tournament.

857
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: That should be illegal to do to college kids, man.

858
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 7: Is absolutely can we space it out a little bit here?

859
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 7: Like the Rising League has done this where you know,

860
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 7: you play some games on campus here to start off,

861
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 7: then you go the quarterfinal round.

862
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: I believe this year they're gonna have.

863
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 7: More of it over there at Orte have a coliseum

864
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: and again we'll be out there next week to broadcast

865
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 7: seven games in seven days. Unbelievable here. It's one of

866
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 7: the funniest brackets I've seen. Shout out to Louisiana, Georgia State.

867
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 7: Shout out to Ron Hunter. By the way, did you

868
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 7: see Michael Shrewsbury using the Ron Hunter scooter on Saturday? No,

869
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 7: because we haven't brought up Notre Dame ven in state yet.

870
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: Louisiana, Monroe and Old Dominion.

871
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: I think he's won in one since he started the scooter,

872
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: isn't he?

873
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: No, he's won in Oh. You see when Kevin brought

874
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: up Notre Dame, the lights went out in the hallway.

875
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 7: It did come on, man, we lose the power because

876
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 7: it is did we just go off air mark?

877
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: I think I think no one's walked in the hallways

878
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: for a few minutes, so the motion detectors go on.

879
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 6: Oh, I thought that was the soul of of you know,

880
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 6: the Notre Dame fan base leaving once you saw Marcus

881
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: Burdon go down.

882
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 4: That was a quad one win for Notre Dame. There By, who.

883
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: Has more quad one wins? Indiana or Notre Dame.

884
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: Well, the harsh reality is Notre Dame.

885
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 7: Yeah take that, uh huh, yeah, soul wild IU stat

886
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 7: from this weekend. So the loss on Saturday clinched another

887
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 7: year of five hundred or worse in the Big Ten.

888
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 7: They now have had eleven of their last thirteen seasons

889
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 7: they've been five hundred or worse in the Big Ten.

890
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 7: Let me think about that, eleven of thirteen years at

891
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 7: five hundred or worse in the Big Time.

892
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: I saw over the weekend they had made a list

893
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: somebody at college basketball site had made a list of

894
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: five programs that just aren't what they used to be

895
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: and Indianna was third on them.

896
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're certainly on that list.

897
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that's what's happening in the world of

898
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: great and not so great goats. In a moment, will

899
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: continue talking about the coming and going of the NFL

900
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: combine what it means for the Colts and what they

901
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: have to look forward to we even talk to Jake

902
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: Arthur about that coming up at about twenty minutes from now.

903
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: It's all right here at ninety three five and one

904
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: seven five. All right, let's go back to talking about

905
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: Colts for just second. Here. Our good friend Jake Arthur

906
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: is the co deputy editor of Indianapolis Colts on Sports Illustrated.

907
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: He's covered the team in the NFL for a better

908
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 3: part of a decade, if not more, and he's kind

909
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: of enough to join us on the Payless Liquors hotline

910
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: right now. Good morning, Jake Arthur. I hope weather is

911
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: not a factor for you. I hope you're working safely

912
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: and warmly from home this morning.

913
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 10: I can't say the same for the kids. Got the

914
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 10: old two hours away that.

915
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, what can you do? That's how it goes. No

916
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: two hour delays or delays of any kind coming up

917
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: for the Colts. They got decisions to make, and the

918
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: deadlines are coming up. What do we know so far?

919
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's it's tough. I mean we know

920
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 10: what the Colts that deadlines kind of spur action with them.

921
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 10: They kind of let things go up to the eleventh hour,

922
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 10: which we're pretty much there I do imagine both tags,

923
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 10: the franchise tag and transition tag could both be in play.

924
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 10: I can't really recall the time I've ever seen the

925
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 10: colts Es transition, but it honestly would probably be financially

926
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 10: appropriate for either of them. But with Alec Pierce, I've

927
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 10: got to think that the market there is just a

928
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 10: lot a lot richer, I would imagine, so you might

929
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 10: not want to risk doing anything beyond the franchise tag

930
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 10: if you could, of course, get a long term deal.

931
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 6: Going, Jake, if you had to choose one player to tag,

932
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 6: who would it be Daniel Jones or Alec Pierce.

933
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 10: Ooh, now is that with the caveat that, like you

934
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 10: can only pick one to have or one to tag.

935
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: One to tag with the risk of potentially losing the

936
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: other one in free agency.

937
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 10: Oh God, that's tough.

938
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 8: Man.

939
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 10: I guess for that purpose, you tag Pierce because I

940
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 10: think his market is just a bit more robust. You

941
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 10: probably find yourself being even able to fall into dumb

942
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 10: luck working something out with Daniel Jones. But most of

943
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 10: the teams around the league should have some sort of

944
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 10: interest in Alec Pierce, at least the ones that could afford.

945
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 4: Him and Jake Arthur.

946
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 7: He was a busy, busy human at the Combine locked

947
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 7: on Coltsimon Zach Kicks always a great listen there, and

948
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 7: those two were posted up and they were just absolutely

949
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 7: just digging for info throughout the Combine week. Jake, let's

950
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 7: keep it in terms of the draft to this, maybe

951
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 7: a position or two that you'd call very deep in

952
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 7: the twenty twenty sixth class, and a position or two

953
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 7: that you would called not very deep in the twenty

954
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 7: twenty six draft class.

955
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 10: I think linebacker is as good as I've seen it

956
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 10: in a while, which lines up really well with the

957
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 10: Colts of course needing linebacker help, especially there you know

958
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 10: when they're going to start picking around forty seven. I

959
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 10: really like the linebackers. They're the defensive tackles also, so

960
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 10: we know they kind of have to start thinking of

961
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 10: life after Buck and Grover. I really wish I liked

962
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 10: the edge rush class in that Day two range more

963
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 10: than I do, because you know, they probably need to

964
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 10: be active they're in free agency and the draft. But

965
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 10: I just don't. I just can't find myself falling in

966
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 10: love with those guys that are like top fifty, top

967
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 10: seventy five. You know, Safety, I would say safety is

968
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 10: another really good one that kind of matches up with

969
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 10: the Colts if you perhaps lose Net Cross. I say,

970
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 10: I know you guys had a really good combo with

971
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 10: with Chris the other day that was kind of revealing.

972
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 10: But even Rodney Thomas, I mean he played one hundred

973
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 10: and fifty snaps last year. So you find a way

974
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 10: to replace Cross and or Thomas in this draft too.

975
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 6: Again, we're talking to Jake Arthur locked on Colts and

976
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 6: pretty much all things Colts. I feel like I see

977
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 6: Jake upload more videos then now I actually see him

978
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 6: taking I'm like, what when did you do this?

979
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 4: How did you you know? He's got all the gear?

980
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 6: And so you do a great job at that, brother,

981
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 6: and trust me, I am locked in. I will say

982
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: I'll give some credit to you and Zach Kicks for

983
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 6: also being the two guys who love offensive lineman. I

984
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 6: know there's been some offensive linemen, not hate, but like

985
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 6: they don't get enough love. Zach Kicks loves him some

986
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 6: offensive linean, so check out his work as well. Oh yeah,

987
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 6: he'll have his draft guy coming as well, which I'm

988
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 6: sure I'll be looking at as well. Jake when I

989
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 6: look at the tray request for Anthony Richardson, the question

990
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 6: I want to ask you is how did we get here? Like,

991
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: what is your elevator's speech for random person who might

992
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 6: be interested in Anthony Richardson, random team, if they're a

993
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 6: random fan, if they're asking, what the heck happened here?

994
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 4: What are you saying?

995
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 9: Man?

996
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 10: I mean, of course there's layers to it, but he

997
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 10: probably got thrown out there before he was ready and

998
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 10: then which could have been manageable. It's maybe not for

999
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 10: the shoulder injury. And then injuries have just kind of

1000
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 10: been the story. The cults haven't really been able to

1001
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 10: invest the time necessary to develop him because he's barely

1002
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 10: been available. I think he's only been around for like

1003
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 10: twenty nine or fifty one games, you know, so the

1004
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 10: injuries are a huge part. And then I mean Anthony

1005
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 10: as well, he's got to kind of You've got to

1006
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 10: take some blame for this too. I mean, you have

1007
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 10: to be as locked in as possible, especially if you

1008
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 10: aren't on the field. You have to be. I mean,

1009
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 10: it's gotten your eyes and crossing your teeth around the clock.

1010
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 10: So the Colts kind of messed up. I would imagine

1011
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 10: with throwing him out early. He's been injured, and he's

1012
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 10: admitted he's not been as prepared as he could be

1013
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 10: at times as well.

1014
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: So it's got layers talking to Jake Arthur Sports illustrated

1015
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: about the Colts right now. Anything else that kind of

1016
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: you heard, saw felt at the combine this past week

1017
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 3: that you think is interesting is not being reported.

1018
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 8: Well.

1019
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 10: I think as far as cold stuff goes, I think

1020
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 10: Chris Boward was pretty revealing with with Michael Pittman Junior,

1021
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 10: stuff like anxiary, Franklin as well, basically all all but

1022
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 10: admitting they're probably going to have to figure stuff out

1023
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 10: with those contracts. If you're reading between the lines, of course, uh,

1024
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 10: because that that front seven, I mean, that's the that's

1025
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 10: the flavor of the week. They know that's got to

1026
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 10: improve and they're not hiding from that at all.

1027
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: Jake.

1028
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 6: One more, when it comes to the roster construction going forward,

1029
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 6: I know we spent a lot of time talking about

1030
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: Alec Peers and retaining him and that would ideally be

1031
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: the goal. But if Michael Pittman Junior, who Chris did say, hey,

1032
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 6: it's hypothetical that he won't be here next year. But

1033
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 6: if he is not, where would receiver become or how

1034
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 6: would receiver shift in your mind from being perhaps a

1035
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: need to a bigger need if he's not here.

1036
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would really hate to invest like something rich,

1037
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 10: like very much free agent money or an early draft

1038
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 10: pick on receiver. But you would kind of have to

1039
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 10: because you know, Josh Downs is coming up on the

1040
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 10: near the end of his contract, and you know it

1041
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 10: would just be Pierce, who is getting better as a

1042
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 10: receiver all the time, but he's not that complete guy.

1043
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 10: He's not really the possession guy you're looking for. So

1044
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 10: I do think you would have to spend valuable money

1045
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 10: or draft picks on it. You know, probably get one

1046
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 10: within the first three or four rounds. And I wouldn't

1047
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 10: probably spend more than like fifteen million a year on

1048
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 10: a receiver on the free agent market. I think those

1049
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 10: guys get kind of expensive.

1050
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: But a guy like.

1051
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 10: Romeo Dobbs from the Packers probably falls in around you know,

1052
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 10: twelve to fifteen million a year. That'd probably be about

1053
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 10: about as much as I would stretch it.

1054
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 7: And Jake Arthur's with us here is a busy man

1055
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 7: down at the combine. He is on the Holts beating.

1056
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 7: As we've said, locked on Colts where you can find

1057
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 7: his work from a listening standpoint. Jake, last one, let's

1058
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 7: go to linebacker. You mentioned the Chris ballad combo. We

1059
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 7: did ask about Zire Franklin, So I'll give you a

1060
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 7: little either neither both. Jermaine Pratt free agent, Zire Franklin

1061
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 7: still under contract, those two being a cult in twenty

1062
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 7: twenty six.

1063
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: Either neither both.

1064
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1065
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 10: I would say neither to be honest with you, because

1066
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 10: I already kind of was of the thinking that Pratt

1067
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 10: wouldn't be here, like that was a nice one year rental,

1068
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 10: you know, next year or last year. But they've got

1069
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 10: to get younger, they've got to get faster, and they'd

1070
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 10: even get cheaper if they used a draft pick. So

1071
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 10: I already kind of thought Pratt would not be part

1072
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 10: of it. But then Chris opening that conversation for Ziere,

1073
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 10: I mean, he's got two years left on his deal.

1074
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 10: That's all Chris would have had to say, you know,

1075
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 10: he's got two years left and we'll see what happens.

1076
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 10: But he very much made it seem like they're discussing

1077
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 10: that internally.

1078
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: Jake, always good to have you on. Thanks so much

1079
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: for doing it this morning. Good luck with the kids

1080
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: this morning. We'll talk to you soon.

1081
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 10: Absolutely thanks Fellows.