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Speaker 1: Good morning, Indianapolis, Happy Friday to Yeah. This is Ethan

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Speaker 1: and Jerry on WIBC producer keV in the Producer's fish

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Speaker 1: bull pushing those buttons and doing the things to make

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Speaker 1: the show function. Jerry, we are sprinting towards the end

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Speaker 1: of the legislative session. I mean full sprints, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing the track and field. So we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of local issues. We'll try and give you an overview

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Speaker 1: of some of the most important bills. Over the course

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Speaker 1: of today's show. We got a lot of other fun stories,

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Speaker 1: including an article that you sent me that will be covering.

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Speaker 2: At the end of this hour.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the FBI has announced that they have a potential

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Speaker 1: suspect in the dB Cooper plane hijacking from over what

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Speaker 1: do we lay over? Forty years ago, fifty years ago,

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Speaker 1: fifty somewhere around there. So that is very interesting. We'll

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Speaker 1: give you all the juicy details on that. But first

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Speaker 1: we're going to start with everybody's least favorite aspect of

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Speaker 1: the legislative session. When the legislators in the General Assembly

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Speaker 1: they try to stick non German language in the bills,

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Speaker 1: and this is how you always get the worst amendments

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Speaker 1: passed through because they stick language from another bill in

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Speaker 1: some other bill that has nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 1: And you could hear them discussing this issue when they

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Speaker 1: were looking to put language from SB four into House

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Speaker 1: Bill fourteen to six, and in the conference committee said

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Speaker 1: as much. But they it gets better, Jerry, because they

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Speaker 1: don't even know what they're putting into HB fourteen oh six.

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Speaker 3: Just kind of let you know before you have the

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Speaker 3: members say a few words. If they they so choose

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Speaker 3: the center bill for fourteen o six, the intent is

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Speaker 3: right now to take language that's in other bills and

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Speaker 3: put it in there. Nothing at this point in my view,

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Speaker 3: well when is going to be controversial. A lot of

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Speaker 3: it comes from Centerville four and so just so you

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Speaker 3: know that it will be you rull non Jermaine. But

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Speaker 3: that's the intent as at this point.

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Speaker 4: No, don't like that.

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Speaker 1: So like, regardless of whether your intent is efficiency or

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Speaker 1: something something else, it looks shady as hell when you

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Speaker 1: do with it and stick it somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: What's say you, Jerry, Especially when you say I'm going

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Speaker 4: to do this, Yes, that makes it even more crazy.

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Speaker 2: What makes it the.

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Speaker 1: Most crazy is we're at almost the end of the

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Speaker 1: legislative session. They are looking to marry these two bills together,

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Speaker 1: and they still don't know what language they're going to

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Speaker 1: pull from SB four to put into fourteen oh six.

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Speaker 5: Chairman, you say you're going to take some language out

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Speaker 5: of which.

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Speaker 6: Bills, it'll probably be mostly out of Centinbill four. I

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Speaker 6: mean the language we passed out of there, I think

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Speaker 6: it's going to be real non germains my understanding. So

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Speaker 6: that'd be I won't say all of it, maybe modified some,

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Speaker 6: but that's the intent as of right now.

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Speaker 2: Holy Jesus, what is that?

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Speaker 4: What the point is that?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 1: What is House Bill fourteen oh six? House Bill fourteen

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Speaker 1: oh six is a property tax bill, and then Senate

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Speaker 1: Bill four is a catch all for various financial matters.

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Speaker 1: And they're looking to marry these two bills together in

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Speaker 1: the Conference committee and then pass it on through. But

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Speaker 1: you just heard in that clip, Jerry that they don't

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Speaker 1: know what language they're taking out of SBO four and

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Speaker 1: putting into fourteen oh six.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't you know? I mean, this is the bare basics

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Speaker 4: There should be a common denominator between these two bills

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Speaker 4: just enter that language and they are good. Yeah. Right,

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Speaker 4: now there's day we want to connect these two. We

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Speaker 4: just don't know how to wordsmith it up to make

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Speaker 2: We're almost at the very very end of the session.

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Speaker 1: This is when the conference committees are finalizing the bills.

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Speaker 1: They're making sure that the language the identicals. That way

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Speaker 1: they can go to both floors and then passes a

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Speaker 1: And they have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean you heard it there. They have no idea

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Speaker 1: Does that inspire confidence in anybody?

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Speaker 2: Does this seem like good governance to anyone?

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Speaker 4: They don't know what they're gonna do, but they're going

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Speaker 4: to do it. But they're going to do it when

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that is another fantastic example, because we're

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Speaker 1: we've also now passed, at least in the Senate the

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Speaker 1: four so it is a bipartisan.

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Speaker 4: Screwing can agree on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can agree on that.

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Speaker 1: And boy, you want to talk about like rushing and

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Speaker 1: moving heaven and earth.

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Speaker 2: To make sure that we can accommodate this.

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Speaker 1: Multi billion dollar organization and bring them to our state

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Speaker 1: and hand it to hand it to them on a

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Speaker 1: silver platter. We are going to provide infrastructure resources to them.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be building roads, we're gonna be upgrading utilities.

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Speaker 1: And they say that that the stadium is going to

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Speaker 1: pay for it. But the dirty little secret is, even

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Speaker 1: optimistically assuming that's true, it is going to take.

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Speaker 2: Literally decades, Jerry, literally decades.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's going to take forever. And they're probably also

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Speaker 4: going to say the community is going to see a

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Speaker 4: little bit of profit from all the incoming people. And

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Speaker 4: but there are far bigger things to worry about than

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Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears moving here, moving their stadium here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, they are definitely trying to shine sell

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Speaker 1: it as a bright shiny object property taxes Chicago Bears. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem here, Jerry. You're you're getting where

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Speaker 1: I'm going. And that's and that's how Todd Houston, Speaker

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Speaker 1: of the House, was trying to sell this thing when

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Speaker 1: he was talking about SB twenty seven. It's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: look at what it's going to do for the community guys.

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Speaker 8: Today, I'm excited to have an opportunity presented cent Bill

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Speaker 8: twenty seven to you, which creates a framework for a

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Speaker 8: new world class stadium and venue in Hammond, Indiana, to

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Speaker 8: welcome the Chicago Bears, positioning the region in our state

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Speaker 8: to embrace a multi billion dollar economic development opportunity. This

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Speaker 8: investment will bring jobs, economic development, population growth, tourism, new

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Speaker 8: tax revenue, and new businesses. It will be a catalyst

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Speaker 8: for the growth across the entire Northwest Indiana corridor, revitalizing

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Speaker 8: that region and benefiting our entire state. Send Bill twenty seven.

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Speaker 8: This aplisode is the Northwest India Stadium Authority detailing funding

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Speaker 8: mechanisms to support this project, similar to those used to

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Speaker 8: support in Lucas Oil Stadium and Game Bridge here in Indianapolis. Well,

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Speaker 8: there's still lots of work to do and to be

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Speaker 8: completed to bring us to fruition. The Chicago Bills Bears

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Speaker 8: are willing to invest over two billion dollars in Northwest

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Speaker 8: Indiana to support this project. As we did with Lucas Oil,

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Speaker 8: the state will finance a portion of the bonds for

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Speaker 8: the that will repay me repaid. Let me underline that

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Speaker 8: repaid by revenues generated at the stadium and through a

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Speaker 8: renegotiated toll road lease. These new revenues include and missions,

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Speaker 8: tax on game and event tickets, and local food and

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Speaker 8: beverage and innkeepers taxes in the area.

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Speaker 9: No good, no.

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Speaker 4: Good, please, no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: Can we just pay off one stadium first? We're still

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Speaker 1: paying for the Hoosier Dome and that's demolished. That's been

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Speaker 1: demolished going on twenty years. We are still paying for

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Speaker 1: an object that we demolished twenty years ago, still hasn't

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Speaker 1: been paid for. We are still paying for Lucas Oil

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Speaker 1: Stadium and are projected to continue be paying for it

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Speaker 1: for at.

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Speaker 2: Least another decade.

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Speaker 1: Can we just pay off one stadium first before we

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Speaker 1: move on to the next bright, shiny thing and start

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Speaker 1: paying for that too, And then, even if we do

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Speaker 1: pay for it, the food and beverage.

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Speaker 2: Taxes live forever. They're just gonna to stay. Your taxes

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Speaker 2: are always going up, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: This is a vast conspiracy, a bi partisan screwing of you,

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Speaker 1: and it pisses me.

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Speaker 4: Off, Well, it's nice to know they can at least

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Speaker 4: get along on something. But I've never heard of the

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Speaker 4: Chicago bills. I've never heard of them, and I'm almost

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Speaker 4: certain the beginning of that speech was written by chat GBT.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, no, I mean, these people are doing as

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Speaker 1: little as humanly possible. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you know, when they say that Indiana is open for business,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the code words that the governor likes

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Speaker 1: to use. It just means that they are raising billions

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Speaker 1: of new taxes and screwing you. This was a Governor

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Speaker 1: brawn sitting in on a Pat McAfee's show. And then

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Speaker 1: listen to who they say this benefits the most, because

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Speaker 1: it's very telling.

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Speaker 4: Jerry.

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Speaker 7: We've been able to do all of this basically in

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Speaker 7: a couple months to get it from agreement generally to

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Speaker 7: an accommodating bill and a strong public statement. That's the

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Speaker 7: speed of light in this business. And I think they've

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Speaker 2: We are an honest broker.

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Speaker 7: We're not gonna you know, and we wanted to make

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Speaker 7: sure they were doing the same thing. So I don't

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Speaker 7: know what could happen, especially when they say they're not

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Speaker 7: going to put any money into it. We'll see, and

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Speaker 7: I think fans have already done the calculation. You're gonna

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Speaker 7: have plenty of room to tailgate and do all the

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Speaker 7: fun stuff. In Indiana.

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Speaker 4: It's the Indiana Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to. I do

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Speaker 2: not want to piss off the Chicago Bears fans even more,

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 7: Won't let you do that. It's going to be the

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Speaker 7: Chicago Bears, okay, Indiana Okay?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 2: Only what twenty minutes away? So it's just like, what

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Speaker 2: does the business of the Bears want to do? And

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Speaker 2: by the way, good for the Bears.

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Speaker 4: Business is good for the team, it's good for the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I've contained my rage for as long as possible, but

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Speaker 4: I shall unleash my fury upon you.

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Speaker 1: Like the crossing of a thousand waves.

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Speaker 2: Be gone, vile man, be gone from me. I'm tethered

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Speaker 2: my rage. Nono gowns.

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Speaker 1: So who did they tell you that it was going

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Speaker 1: to be beneficial for? Who was Numero uno on the

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Speaker 1: chart there? Jerry, the NFL, the NFL not.

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Speaker 4: But that was Pat McAfee. So you got to give

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Speaker 4: him a little bit. He works for the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Well he was, and he's not.

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Speaker 4: Governor Bron. Governor Broun's number one should have been for Whosier.

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Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't matter because Governor Broun was sitting there

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Speaker 1: like a clapping sound. It's gonna be great for the NFL, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's great for the NFL, is

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Speaker 1: it great for us? Is it going to be great

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Speaker 1: for the people that are actually paying for this thing.

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Speaker 1: We can't take care of the roads that we already have.

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Speaker 1: You know that, because you already experienced the disaster that

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Speaker 1: the city either. Frankly, our highways are a mess. But

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Speaker 1: then we're going to be taking on additional infrastructure responsibilities

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Speaker 1: to make the Bear Stadium possible. Even if you buy

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Speaker 4: There's so many other things that our tax and when

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: It is something when a veteran tells you that the

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Speaker 1: Believe it. Thanks for listening to ninety three wib C.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're going to tell you more about

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Speaker 2: This is Ethan and Jerry. I'm ninety three wiv C.

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Speaker 2: If you're enjoying your morning.

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Speaker 1: Today Producer keV and the producer's fish bowl doing all

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Speaker 1: segment I should say, we're talking about SB one, which honestly, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you're not fraud giving your money

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Speaker 1: to fraudulent services like your own money, Right, You're trying.

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Speaker 2: Not to get scammed all the time?

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Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, Yeah, at the end of the day, somebody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because if you accidentally give your mind to

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm glad it's happening now, but.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest with ourselves here, right, this is something

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Speaker 11: This bill is a priority bill for your caucus, so

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Speaker 11: I wanted to make sure I understand the impetus behind it.

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Speaker 11: Is this to make sure we don't have fraud abuse

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Speaker 10: This entire bill is focused around the Medicaid air payment

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Speaker 11: And the error payment rate is the rate where we

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Speaker 10: So under HR one, which was passed through Congress, as

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Speaker 4: That's just gets work.

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Speaker 10: If you look at Medicaid and Medicaid air payment rate

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Speaker 4: Surely you can't be serious.

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Speaker 6: I am serious, and don't call me surely.

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Speaker 1: That's one in five, Jerry Den, You're one in five

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Speaker 1: Medicaid expenditures.

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Speaker 2: RB being fraudulently doled out.

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Speaker 1: And it took the federal government to threaten penalization, which

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really nice thing, but it really grinds

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Speaker 4: my gears, he said, grinds my gears to know how

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Speaker 4: people that don't even qualify, don't deserve, or flat out

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Speaker 1: Well, and one of the things that they are cleaning

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Speaker 2: Is double enrollment.

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Speaker 1: That is to say, people who are enrolled in one

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Speaker 1: so they're clean benefit double dippin' double dipping, Jerry, And

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I remember last time we worked didn't win their fraud tourism.

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Speaker 4: Those guys went from Pennsylvania to Minnesota because they knew

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, No, Well, obviously, when one in five expenditures

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Speaker 4: So if the federal government didn't come down and hold

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Speaker 2: Yes, that would continue to go on and it would

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Speaker 1: Among other things that SB one addresses is also the

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Speaker 1: that it should be for necessities not luxuries. Right, buy food,

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Speaker 2: Chips, or soda water, sugar water, make your sugar water.

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Speaker 4: Or at least I don't want to pay for it.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, yeah you can. You can pay for it

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Speaker 1: The other thing I want to do address David Shelton,

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Speaker 1: We need to support an alternative candidate to diego Morales

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Speaker 1: if we are going to beat bo Bay then that

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Speaker 12: The hil old ladies and gentleman by fellows, Republican delegates

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Speaker 12: We are joined together here in this video today because

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Speaker 13: The state of India, one of the most important elections

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Speaker 12: They're coming after.

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Speaker 13: That office because they know it's speak point for us.

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Speaker 13: But we have a great candidate. That candidate's name is

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Speaker 12: We're joining together right now to endorse David shelf Secretary

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Speaker 12: of State. We hope that you if you're a county

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Speaker 13: He is a dandidate who's the most qualified when he

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Speaker 2: Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're all on the same page that Diego

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Speaker 1: Morales in that experiment has been an unmitigated disaster, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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Speaker 4: I cannot envision a world where Bobai wins. I really

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Speaker 4: know we're on different sides of this. Look here, there's qualify.

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Speaker 4: We got to stay with R all the way down. Now,

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Speaker 4: if it's Diego, we've got to have accountability. We've got

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Speaker 2: If it's Diego.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm bo Bye, but I would definitely not

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Speaker 1: the reasons why I am running for a state delegate

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Speaker 2: For an Orange Peel over Diego Morales.

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Speaker 1: So if you're telling me that my choice is between

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Speaker 4: Well you're probably not concerned with being a report or

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Speaker 1: Or I would say Lorie shilling Because the Libertarians also

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Speaker 1: need to retain ballot access in the state. And that's

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Speaker 1: another important issue that's going to be addressed in the

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Speaker 1: I understand you. If you don't want to vote for

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Speaker 1: and Libertarians retain their access fair.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know who, Life's not fair, Ethan, Life's

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Speaker 4: not fair ethn. Right, there's a there's a few things

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Speaker 4: I find funnier than the term libertarian.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned to ninety three WIBC. Coming up next, we

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Speaker 1: got Jared Lewis with the.

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Speaker 14: News Minnesota is the California of the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the morning show on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: This is Ethan and Jerry on the air. Jerrett, Minnesota

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Speaker 1: has been a disaster, and you know when did When

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Speaker 1: did Minnesota shift so.

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Speaker 2: Deep dark blue? Is what I want to know.

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Speaker 4: I just can't. But I mean, everything that happens that

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Speaker 4: is crazy lately seems like it's always in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fraud, the ridiculousness, the riots. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess we should have seen this comment all the way

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Speaker 1: back in or Floyd was Yeah, twenty twenty, Yeah, Summer

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Speaker 1: of Love when they bit burnt Minneapolis to the ground.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it is when there's no repercussions for

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Speaker 4: lashing out after the Summer of level, We'll do whatever

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Speaker 4: the heck we want.

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Speaker 1: Very true, and now they are rewarding the rioters.

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Speaker 2: Jared, this is amazing. This is crazy to me.

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Speaker 4: Get ready to hear the craziest thing you will hear

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Speaker 4: all day. You're about to hear it right now.

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Speaker 15: I promise one question I do have. We've had some

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Speaker 15: federal agents in the state recently. We've seen video, we've

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Speaker 15: seen we've seen statements and interviews, but we've seen how

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Speaker 15: there's been chemical nitions used on some folks that have

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Speaker 15: been out exercising the Freshman of rights, and we know

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Speaker 15: that those cause harm and damage. So I'm going to

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Speaker 15: question to you, have you seen any of that in

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Speaker 15: terms of applications that are coming out those types of

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Speaker 15: actions being the reason for folks needing to access to

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Speaker 15: this program.

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Speaker 16: Thank you, mister Charin, Thank you for the question. Representative Frasier,

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Speaker 16: And I'll maybe ask a director or flate just to

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Speaker 16: provide a couple couple brief details.

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Speaker 2: But the short answer to your question is.

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Speaker 16: Yes, as as would any circumstance that causes injury or

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Speaker 16: harm to the public. I think we have seen applications

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Speaker 16: that have been tied to some of the violence that

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Speaker 16: we saw as a result of Operation Metro Surge. I

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Speaker 16: don't you know, I think as you would expect if

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Speaker 16: people have suffered serious injury, that is, it's not on

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Speaker 16: it's I guess it's not unexpected, it's certainly you know,

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Speaker 16: it's it's at But that is I think one benefit

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Speaker 16: of having this program is that people who have been

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Speaker 16: seriously injured now have the ability to receive in a

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Speaker 16: lot of take.

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Speaker 2: Time to care money.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, there's no money.

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Speaker 8: Oh oh, that's fine, I'll just destroy this office.

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Speaker 4: Money please, mon, then give her some money. It's easier.

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Speaker 1: They are giving the rioters. What were they talking about.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about Minnesota's Paid Family Medical Leave Act at MLA,

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Speaker 1: and they are giving the rioters who were tear gased

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Speaker 1: by law enforcement up.

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Speaker 2: To twelve weeks of benefits paid.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you are now getting paid if you were getting

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Speaker 1: punished and involving yourself with these riots and find yourself

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Speaker 1: tear gas by law enforcement, I mean, Jerry. These people

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Speaker 1: have turned into a parody of themselves. It is impossible

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Speaker 1: to parody the Democrat Party at this point.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how many people playing vacations and go out

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Speaker 4: and try to get rubber bulleted or hit with some

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Speaker 4: tear gases so they can get twelve weeks.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, no, please please hit me with the tear gas.

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Speaker 1: That way, Yeah, that way I can take off work

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Speaker 1: get medical leave.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 2: They make it cusehy.

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Speaker 1: Wellolytics, twelve weeks, twelve weeks, and people are using law

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Speaker 1: enforcement activity as a justification to receive these benefits. If

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Speaker 1: I was a Minnesota taxpayer, I would be getting the

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Speaker 1: heck at.

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Speaker 4: A doc it's i mean, this is once again Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota is holding it down for the craziest things, whether

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Speaker 4: it's some Holy daycare centers or FMLA if you get

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Speaker 4: hit with a tear gas canister.

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Speaker 1: Well, now the Somalians are demanding reparations for ice actions

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Speaker 1: in the state because they are so terrorized that evidently

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Speaker 1: they're unable to pay the rent. And so in addition

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Speaker 1: to the billions of dollars of fraud that have been

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Speaker 1: uncovered and it's likely higher than what are we going

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Speaker 1: on now, nineteen billion dollar yet not just a paltry

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Speaker 1: nineteen billion dollars of slush fund money that has been

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Speaker 1: doled out largely to the Somali immigrant community, and now

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Speaker 1: they're demanding reparations on top of it.

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Speaker 17: Distral a top capitiza for someone of small business owners,

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Speaker 17: not those who makes two hundred thousand and o'clock. We

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Speaker 17: don't make that much a month for instance, crisis a month.

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Speaker 17: We're also dement and immediate help told fictions so families

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Speaker 17: are not pushed says during the crisis, our community to

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Speaker 17: deserve our community, to deserve safety. We need also justice

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Speaker 17: for go for loss their lives. Get sending the two

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Speaker 17: minutes give me money, money.

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Speaker 2: Me money, now, four hundred thousand dollars a month.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I look at you, I said, I took my

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Speaker 4: headphones off. I said, did she say forty thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: a month? We don't make that much. You must be

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Speaker 4: thinking about the other daycare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, As you referred to it as the crisis of ice,

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Speaker 1: and so they need to get rent relief and assistance.

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Speaker 1: That way, they're not going to be evicted. Look, lady,

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Speaker 1: y'all got nineteen billion dollars. If you can't figure out

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Speaker 1: how to pay the rent with that, I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to help it.

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Speaker 4: The fact that we even entertained these ridiculous conversations in

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Speaker 4: this country says a lot. And it's no wonder we

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Speaker 4: have people that are hooked to the system if they're

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Speaker 4: allowed to do things like this.

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Speaker 1: Look no further than the ridiculous people in charge. You

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Speaker 1: have a lieutenant governor, much like our own ridiculous lieutenant

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Speaker 1: governor running around here in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: She's running around she.

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Speaker 1: Was a cosplaying and mosques came in wearing a job.

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Speaker 1: I'm part of you. Now she's running around cosplaying for

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Speaker 1: the Native American community, and listen to the name that

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Speaker 1: she has given herself, or at least that she says

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Speaker 1: that the tribe has given her.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure this is a compliment, Jerry.

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Speaker 9: My ojaboy name is Geegee wavid a McQuay, which means

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Speaker 9: speaks in a loud and clear voice.

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Speaker 7: Woman.

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Speaker 9: And I am so grateful for my community. And you know,

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Speaker 9: I am a member of the Whiter nation, which is

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Speaker 9: the largest tribe in Minnesota.

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Speaker 18: Is christ What we said to give a woman flower

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Speaker 18: is like to give a gag to a monkey. We

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Speaker 18: have stopped doing that ever since the nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 18: Astana Zu Mesica.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but to answer your question, what does she say?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I can't pronounce that name. I'll

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Speaker 1: use the English rendition speaking and a loud voice woman.

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Speaker 2: Well that aren't they just calling her a loud mouth?

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Speaker 4: Doesn't sound like a nickname.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that doesn't sound like a compliment, lady.

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Speaker 1: But at least we have some representatives who are trying

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Speaker 1: to do the right thing here in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 1: And while you have gross fraudulent expenditures to the tune

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Speaker 1: of billions of dollars that are going on in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: in the Somali community, demanding evermore reparations, evermore payouts from

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Speaker 1: the federal and the state government. Andrew Ireland has introduced

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Speaker 1: an amendment to one of the bills in the General

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Speaker 1: Assembly that would prevent Indiana from providing tax credits to

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Speaker 1: businesses that are based with foreign adversaries.

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Speaker 2: This is another common sense.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know this was already a thing.

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Speaker 2: It should be.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't already, it absolutely should be. And even

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Speaker 1: with such a common sense issue that we shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: giving tax credits to our ummies, to our enemies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Indiana is open for business.

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Speaker 1: You can still hear some of the Democrat dummies in

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Speaker 1: the General Assembly saying no, shouting no, when this amendment

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Speaker 1: is being introduced by Representative Andrew Ireland.

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Speaker 5: This is a very simple amendment. It takes the policy

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Speaker 5: that we're not going to give tax credits to companies

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Speaker 5: that are domesticated incorporated in our foreign adversary countries in China,

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Speaker 5: North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and effectively says that either

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Speaker 5: if they are domesticated there, or if they are majority

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Speaker 5: owned by a company that is domesticated in those countries

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Speaker 5: that we're not going to certify a tax credit through

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Speaker 5: the IDC to that business as true support.

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Speaker 8: First, gush on the motion sure season one question on

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Speaker 8: adoption the motion? All those fair gissing, I those no motion,

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Speaker 8: all those savers say I, all those posed, Sure.

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Speaker 2: The emotion is adopted. I mean, thank goodness it was adopted.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear those lunatics now? And then the straggla

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Speaker 2: that hang?

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Speaker 4: So what is the point? I don't understand. How so

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Speaker 4: you want to give tax cuts to a company owned

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Speaker 4: by Amadina jod and Iran.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, this is very similar to the situation

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Speaker 1: that we saw during Donald Trump's State of the Union

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Speaker 1: address when he asked the representatives to stand if they

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Speaker 1: believe that American citizens should be the first priority of

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Speaker 1: the Congress, and all the Democrats sat down. And that's

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Speaker 1: not too different from what these knuckleheads did in the

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Speaker 1: General Assembly when they shouted, no, we should be giving

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Speaker 1: tax credits to foreign adversaries.

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Speaker 7: What are you to hear you.

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Speaker 4: Verbalize it like that.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, It's literally insane.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing here?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 4: You have lost your damn minds? How do they we

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Speaker 4: are voting for these people. By the way, it's everybody

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Speaker 4: here's fault. Well I'm not that city's fault. Like these

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Speaker 4: are the people that are running for those people that

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Speaker 4: are scared to run. Look at the idiots that are

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Speaker 4: there now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all on the record.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. We're not making this up. We

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Speaker 1: didn't manufacture this story. You heard the SoundBite for yourself,

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Speaker 1: so draw your own conclusions with that. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to ninety three at WIBC. Coming up next, Apparently there

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Speaker 1: have been some developments potentially in the D. D.

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Speaker 2: Cooper case. After going on fifty years now.

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Speaker 1: The FBI has potentially identified a suspect. We'll give you

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Speaker 1: more details on that coming up next. Stay tuned to

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Speaker 1: the One, the Only, ninety three WIBC. Good morning, Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: This is ninety three WIBC with Ethan and Jerry on

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Speaker 1: the air. That's Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lopez. You can

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Speaker 1: listen to me Saturday night on the Circle seven and

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Speaker 1: nine and Jerry Lopez at Indie Spangl on the Twitter Machine.

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Speaker 2: And you're doing a podcast these days too on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: What's that called?

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Speaker 4: So me and my good friend Brian Alba podcast on

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Speaker 4: YouTube called Those ash Holes ashho l Ees just thirty

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Speaker 4: minute weekly roundups and we'll do some long form interviews.

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Speaker 2: When do you do your updates Friday?

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Speaker 4: So one just came out today.

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Speaker 2: Oh awesome, I have to check that out. This was

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Speaker 2: a story that you sent me.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the FBI has given a potential suspect after fifty

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Speaker 1: five years. This is something that happened in nineteen seventy one,

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Speaker 1: November twenty fourth of nineteen seventy one, when a man

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Speaker 1: by the name of Dan Cooper purchased a ticket on

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving for twenty dollars.

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Speaker 4: Damn twenty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Twenty dollars ticket. Oh man, those were the golden Golden

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Speaker 2: age of the Skies.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Can't get a ticket for twenty dollars anymore, and you

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Speaker 2: can get one on Spirit.

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Speaker 1: But I would advise against it, Yes, absolutely, for a

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Speaker 1: multiplicity of reasons.

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Speaker 2: That being said, of course, he hijacked the plane.

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Speaker 1: It was a different procedure back in the day when

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Speaker 1: they encourage you to just not fight, Yeah, not fight him,

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Speaker 1: do whatever the hijack.

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Speaker 4: That changed after nine to eleven. Yeah, we're fighting now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that they conceived people would be

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Speaker 1: crashing planes into buildings, and I mean this guy didn't.

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Speaker 2: He just wanted two hundred thousand dollars. They gave it

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Speaker 2: to him.

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Speaker 1: And then after he picked up the money in Seattle

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Speaker 1: and left the hostages, he jumped out of the back

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Speaker 1: of the airplane off of the stairs which had been

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Speaker 1: lowered into the darkness, never to be seen again.

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Speaker 2: Fifty years later and we still have not conclusively.

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Speaker 4: One picture, just one picture I've ever seen, well.

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Speaker 2: Not even a picture sketch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the famous sketch of this squirrely looking guy, one

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Speaker 1: in with the sunglasses and one without. So tell us Jerry,

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Speaker 1: who's the FBI identified now as a potential suspect.

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Speaker 4: So they said that the latest release, a new name

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Speaker 4: has emerged. His name is Raymond Sidney Russell, known as sid.

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Speaker 4: He was described by one associate to investigators as an

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Speaker 4: exact likeness for the famous sketch that was released.

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Speaker 1: But it goes on a little bit more than just

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Speaker 1: a likeness. I mean he was he was even an

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Speaker 1: amateur parachutist, correct.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they said he had training seven twenty seven

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Speaker 4: aircraft training, former Air Force pilot parachute training. He believes

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Speaker 4: that he is one hundred percent capable of this hijack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think is fascinating. Of course, to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent. It's irrelevant because this guy dead. Yeah, he's dead.

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Speaker 1: He died like nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 4: The dank s nitch he.

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Speaker 2: Made no, Yeah, didn't make it quite that long.

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Speaker 4: But we'll never know.

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Speaker 2: Well, the FBI had idea. What's crazy about this is

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Speaker 2: the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Had identified him as a potential suspect all the way back.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy two, so we're talking about a year after.

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Speaker 4: He was already on the radar.

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Speaker 1: This all went down, and he was already under the radar,

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Speaker 1: like you say, but for whatever reason, the FBI didn't

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Speaker 1: pursue this. So I think, all things considered, it's probably

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Speaker 1: a stint possibility. If you want to go on to

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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, they have a picture of this guy

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Speaker 1: from a newspaper article that was written in Maine in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, and then he died the following year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a passing resemblance, but just because you

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Speaker 1: bear a resemblance to a sketch doesn't necessarily mean that

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Speaker 1: you're the perpetrator and unless they're able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: identify some concrete DNA evidence or something. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is still just speculating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is gonna go. This is going to continue

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Speaker 4: to go on considered unsolved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I mean it would be fascinating if

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Speaker 1: if it was solved. I think it was in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties that they caught up with a couple thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars of lost denomination from the two hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: because they attract all those serial numbers and they were

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Speaker 1: lost in the woods. So we'll never know what happened

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Speaker 1: to that guy. I mean, he you know, for all

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Speaker 1: we know, he could still be dangling from one of

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Speaker 1: the redwoods.

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Speaker 2: Yeah up there.

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Speaker 4: You literally could be hanging out up there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, literally picked clean by the buzzards and the the

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Speaker 1: the cash thrown to the wind and long since disintegrated.

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Speaker 1: We also might be getting more clarity. Jerry on u

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Speaker 1: f O s because Donald Trump says that he is

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Speaker 1: going to release.

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Speaker 2: The Treasure Trove. The treasure trove, I say with air

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Speaker 2: quotes there of government.

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Speaker 4: He should have put released in air quotes. In that sense,

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Speaker 4: there we go from.

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Speaker 1: Obama said that aliens are real have you seen any

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Speaker 1: evidence of non human visitors?

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Speaker 5: When he gave plus and right information, he's not supposed

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Speaker 5: to be doing it.

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Speaker 8: Why don't up there real and not.

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Speaker 12: I can tell you he gave pless about information he's.

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Speaker 4: Not supposed to be doing that.

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Speaker 2: He made it, He made it big for sake.

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Speaker 5: He took it out of class.

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Speaker 17: So vide information.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't.

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Speaker 12: I don't have an opinion on it, and I never

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Speaker 12: talked about it.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people do, a lot of people believe it.

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Speaker 10: Do you believe that, Peter?

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Speaker 1: Well, if the president can declassify anything that he.

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 7: Wants to, but.

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Speaker 12: I may get him out of trouble by declass And

745
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 12: we know illegal aliens.

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00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: Illegal, only illegal.

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Speaker 2: So dear God, there's more.

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Speaker 1: Now here's a wild theory for you, Jerry. What if

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Speaker 1: dB Cooper was an alien he did the hijacking. It

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Speaker 1: was a gray he was wearing a skin suit. Listen,

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Speaker 1: that's why he's never been I'm.

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Speaker 4: A jrunk guy. But I don't even like him using

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00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: the word released. After this Epstein thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a debacle, but we moved from one

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: debacle to another.

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Speaker 1: This is the modern age, and you're taking all the

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Speaker 1: hits with ninety three wiv C.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned for Hour two coming up next