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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: And we are secur just about that.

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Speaker 4: You know, Poland was one of two nations that paid

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Speaker 4: more than they were supposed to when NATO. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if anyone knows that, but there are two nations and.

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Speaker 3: It's because Poland understands what it's like to live under

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Speaker 3: a communist healscape and they're not going back. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats today, guys, good to be with you. The

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Speaker 3: live stream is happening on the YouTube's Tony Kats Twitter X.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz the President of Poland. He is now in

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Speaker 3: the Oval Office. Carol Naraki n E W R O

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Speaker 3: C k y I. I think I'm pronouncing it correctly.

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Speaker 3: So they're having a meeting in the Oval. I take

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Speaker 3: you to it, and some of the questions and answer

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Speaker 3: is going on.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, how do you know? How do you know?

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Speaker 4: Because you want me to prove your own, you want

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Speaker 4: to improve your own, but I will. I think it's

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Speaker 4: something we could consider doing. You'd love to do it.

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Speaker 4: I love the White House food, but after a while

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Speaker 4: I can see going to a nice restaurant, it's safe.

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Speaker 4: If you would have said, like the governor, Governor Moore

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Speaker 4: wanted me to go and walk through Baltimore with them,

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Speaker 4: and I said, you know, I think I'm a brave guy,

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Speaker 4: but there's no reason to be stupid. They have crime

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Speaker 4: that's at the levels that nobody's ever seen before in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: They've done a terrible job. We go into Baltimore, straight

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Speaker 4: into that very quickly to you know why, they respect

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Speaker 4: our soldiers. You see our soldiers, they respect ourselves. We'd

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Speaker 4: go there too, but we're going to have people asking

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Speaker 4: us to go. They're going to want to and I

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Speaker 4: think the people of those places are the politicians are

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Speaker 4: not in tune with the people.

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Speaker 2: If you do that much is the truth.

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Speaker 3: If there were the these left leaning politicians would not

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Speaker 3: be saying there's no crime here. President Trump doesn't need

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Speaker 3: to intervene here. They would say, man, we could use

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Speaker 3: help in these areas, maybe not this area, but why

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Speaker 3: don't we work together on this stuff, mister president. Do

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Speaker 3: it in a smart way, and they would get a

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Speaker 3: lot of love for doing that. But man, they cannot

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Speaker 3: bring themselves to do it. The lefton is on the

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Speaker 3: wrong side of this. This, of course, is President Trump

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Speaker 3: saying he's going into Chicago. I will bring you that

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Speaker 3: story and the reaction from the mayor Brendan Johnson, from

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Speaker 3: the governor J. P. Prinsker, and the lieutenant governor who's

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Speaker 3: trying to teach people how.

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Speaker 2: To avoid ice. I can't make that up if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Eighteen eighty sevens about eighteen eighty seven, they had the

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Speaker 4: Great National tar Effect and.

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Speaker 3: It was a group of people that.

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Speaker 4: Got together because our country was so rich, they didn't

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Speaker 4: know what to do with the money. We had so

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Speaker 4: much money, they didn't know what to do. It was

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Speaker 4: a group of very prominent people that were set up

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Speaker 4: to hand out of money to everybody because we were

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Speaker 4: the richest we ever were proportionately we were in eighteen

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Speaker 4: eighty seven, around that time, even in nineteen thirteen. We

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Speaker 4: ended them in nineteen thirteen. How did that work out?

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Speaker 4: And then we went to the income tax system. And

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Speaker 4: then we had the depression. And by the way, a

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Speaker 4: lot of people try and say that o tariffs with

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Speaker 4: the depreendant. No, they ended in nineteen thirteen, and then

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Speaker 4: we went to income tax and then in nineteen twenty

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Speaker 4: nine you had the depression. They did try and bring

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Speaker 4: it back in nineteen thirty one thirty two with the

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Speaker 4: depression that long started.

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Speaker 3: And if we want to be people who do away

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Speaker 3: with the income tax and just deal with tariffs, I

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Speaker 3: accept I'll do near anything to get rid of the

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Speaker 3: income tax. The income tax is a horrific idea. The

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Speaker 3: income tax is an abusive idea. The idea that the

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Speaker 3: government is your partner in your business and they provide

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Speaker 3: nothing that is not their job, that they're a partner

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Speaker 3: in my labor. Godna. But if you want to charge

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Speaker 3: luxury taxes or other things, you want to have tariffs.

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Speaker 3: I can choose what I buy and what I don't buy,

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Speaker 3: and therefore I can better regulate my dollars. But if

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Speaker 3: we're going to now say tariffs are here to stay,

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Speaker 3: but the income tax has gone, well, mister President, I'm

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Speaker 3: in where do I sign? But I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 3: that's gonna work. But at least conceptually we're on it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Charles Pain from Fox Business will be

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Speaker 3: with us a little bit later talk about what's happening

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Speaker 3: But of course, when you've got the reporters in the oval.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is just gonna he's gonna answer everything, and

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Speaker 3: he's not stopping. I love bringing this stuff. I don't

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Speaker 3: know everybody else feels about it. I love this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I like hearing it directly from him so we can

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Speaker 3: react to it. Let's go back to President Trump.

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Speaker 4: Our country has a chance to be unbelievably rich again,

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Speaker 4: but it can also be unbelievably poor again. If we

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Speaker 4: don't win that case, our country is going to suffer

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Speaker 4: so greatly, so great But I think we're going to

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Speaker 4: have a big victory. Even if you look at the

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Speaker 4: people that brought the case, they're foreign oriented. Countries have

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Speaker 4: taken advantage of the United States for so many years,

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Speaker 4: and I started with China. You know, our last term,

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Speaker 4: I took in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs

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Speaker 4: from China. But when COVID came, the last thing I

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Speaker 4: was going to do is we're going to tariff France

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Speaker 4: and Italy and you know, others stayed where they were

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Speaker 4: doing so badly. But now we made a deal with

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Speaker 4: the European Union where they're paying US almost a trillion

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Speaker 5: They're happy to do it. You know what, they're happy

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Speaker 5: it's done. These deals were all done, I guess would

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Speaker 5: have to unwind them. We've done deals with Japan, with

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Speaker 5: South Korea, We've done deals with many countries and others

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Speaker 5: to come. And if we didn't have the power.

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Speaker 4: Prestige and dignity of tariffs, and I used them wisely

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Speaker 4: and people respect America again, and we've become a rich

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Speaker 4: country again. The money coming in is incredible, and again

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Speaker 4: they use them on us. If we didn't have them,

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Speaker 4: they would use them on us, and we would have

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Speaker 4: no way to fight them. We would be a third

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Speaker 4: world nation. So I think it's one of the most

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Speaker 4: important cases I've ever seen go before the Supreme Court

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Speaker 6: I'm glad in the two deadline to greeting talks with

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Speaker 6: Vladimir Zelenski.

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Speaker 3: Deadline is now need the approachable. That conversation about the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court is about tariffs and whether or not the

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Speaker 3: President is allowed to use certain economic emergency regulations to

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Speaker 3: say we're going to engage these tariffs.

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Speaker 2: I don't see how he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have the case, and I don't see

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Speaker 3: how the argument is against him from doing so.

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Speaker 2: I also want to be clear, it is not the

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Speaker 3: Because they would be saying that the President cannot do

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Speaker 3: this since the tariff is attacks, which it is, it

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Speaker 3: would have to come via Congress, to which Congress should

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Speaker 3: just come done. Now, if the majorities that we have

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Speaker 3: be able to get that accomplished, can't be done via

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Speaker 3: reconciliationary level, simple majority, well then that is your conversation

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Speaker 3: regarding twenty twenty six in the midterms November three. Understand

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Speaker 3: that I oppose the tariffs. If the tariff is going

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Speaker 3: to replace the income taxim fine. But as a concept,

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Speaker 3: we're charging ourselves billions of dollars and I'm not so

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Speaker 3: sure that the result has come in super strong yet.

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Speaker 3: And its effect on the economy, well is It's all

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Speaker 3: about how you look at it, because in some way

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Speaker 3: its real effect.

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Speaker 2: In some ways no effect at all. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Part of my conversation with Charles Paying from Fox Business

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Speaker 2: But I would be opposed.

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Speaker 3: But if this is the Republican Party that says we

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Speaker 3: are in lockstep about creating a different economic reality, and

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Speaker 3: it going about a different approach with President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Will then pass it. All right, you won't get Thomas Massey,

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Speaker 2: but you get the rest. You won't get Ran.

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Speaker 3: Paul in the Senate, right, Massy has something about Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: But pass it.

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Speaker 3: Give it a go.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you can't get it through, well that's a

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Speaker 3: different thing. But also we are forgetting that there might

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Speaker 3: be other vehicles to which the President can utilize to

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Speaker 3: engage these tariffs. So it isn't dire the way the

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Speaker 3: President puts it. I just want to be clear about that.

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Speaker 3: But it'd be really interesting if he says to Congress

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Speaker 3: pass it, and Republicans are like, we thought about it, and.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring it back to this press conference here with

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Speaker 3: Of Poland.

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Speaker 2: A lot of y.

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Speaker 7: No ah, you see, it's over. They're pushing them out,

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Speaker 7: that is the official. We're pushing you out of the meeting.

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Speaker 7: We don't want to deal with you anymore. Goodbye, see

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Speaker 7: you later.

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Speaker 3: It was nice knowing you an off figure. The President

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Speaker 3: is going to send in troops to Chicago. The question

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Speaker 3: a rational way, And the answer is, oh gosh, oh gosh, no,

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Speaker 3: not at all.

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Speaker 2: That is coming up.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 8: We have to continue to resist, and this moment demands courage.

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Speaker 8: It demands us to understand that we must obstruct and

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Speaker 8: do everything we can to oppose any of these authoritarian

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Speaker 8: actions against our cities.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying.

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Speaker 3: That you have an issue with fighting crime, representative, it's

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Speaker 3: the argument you're making, and the argument representative of Ramirez

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Speaker 3: is insane. But wait, wasn't to Leo Ramirez the one

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Speaker 3: who was in Mexico City and saying that that wasn't

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Speaker 3: an anti American conversation? What was it?

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I remember it, I know, I know, I've got it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to find it. Have no fear. What

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Speaker 2: was it she was in?

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Speaker 3: Was an event in next?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Here it is here? It is what is happening right

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Speaker 2: now on security is actually deporting a legal aliens is

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Speaker 2: against the law.

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Speaker 3: That was it? That? That was? That was it?

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Speaker 2: I knew.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I know, I know that voice. She wants

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Speaker 3: to be the next Jasmine Crockett, but she is a

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Speaker 3: long way away from being Jasmin Crockett. I mean, don't

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Speaker 3: get me wrong, She's ridiculous. But Crockett is just winning

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Speaker 3: the game. The level of opposed to trying to get

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Speaker 3: lawn order established in these big cities is remarkable, stunning

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Speaker 3: to witness.

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Speaker 2: But yet it happens on every level.

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Speaker 3: The Democratic Party has not only picked a loser of

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Speaker 3: an argument, they're tripling down on the loser of an argument.

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Speaker 3: President Trump was clearn Chicago though.

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Speaker 4: Well we're going in. I didn't say when we're going in.

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Speaker 4: When you lose.

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Speaker 2: Look, I have an obligation.

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Speaker 4: This isn't a political thing. I have an obligation when

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Speaker 4: we lose. When twenty people are killed over the last

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Speaker 2: How do you avoid capture?

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Speaker 10: On the front page, there's a red button that says

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Speaker 3: This is what they do. They don't fight crime, They

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Speaker 2: I have been making an argument, and the argument that

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Speaker 3: Why would anybody think that these people who want power,

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Speaker 11: To you that that's crazier than anything I have heard,

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz Today. I noticed that this shooting in Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: the communist Chinese is the Chinese nationals to own lander

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Speaker 3: businesses in the United States is too great. We cannot

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Speaker 3: allow it. And we have the reporting regarding this money laundering.

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Speaker 3: So Mexico's currency restrictions, because this gets a little more interesting,

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Speaker 3: they prevent large amounts of US dollars from being deposited

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Speaker 3: into Mexican financial institutions. This according to the report, So

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Speaker 3: this hinders the cartel's ability to launder funds through formal

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Speaker 3: Mexican financial systems. The People's Republic of China, which is

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Speaker 3: to say, communists China, they they have control laws about

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Speaker 3: currency and it limits the amount of money Chinese citizens

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Speaker 3: can transfer abroad each.

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Speaker 2: And every year.

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Speaker 3: China has this problem and the cartels have this problem,

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Speaker 3: and how can they help each other? So they do

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Speaker 3: this in the US because we protect people's dollars and

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Speaker 3: we don't invade privacy in those ways. Now, this is

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Speaker 3: different than maybe where you might store your money in

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Speaker 3: offshore accounts, whether be the Caymans or the.

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Speaker 2: Ever popular Swiss bank account conversation, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: This is the Chinese and the cartels looking to usurpup

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Speaker 3: the American way. Now, the cartels will be just happy

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Speaker 3: to make money, which is how they see it. But

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Speaker 3: in the end, you're talking about the diminishing, if not

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Speaker 3: the destruction of Western civilization, which starts with the destruction

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Speaker 3: of America, which we could argue in one in the

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Speaker 3: case of Hamas, starts with the destruction of Israel, because

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Speaker 3: that's all the same, it's all the same pattern, it's

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Speaker 3: all the same push. In order to stop this, in

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Speaker 3: order to help ourselves, we can't allow Chinese nationals to

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Speaker 3: own businesses and to.

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Speaker 2: Own property in the US.

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Speaker 3: When we are called racists for it, we need to

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Speaker 3: tell these people just like we tell anybody who oh,

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Speaker 3: you're only trying to affect cities that are run by

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Speaker 3: black mayors. When we talk about President Trump and dealing

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Speaker 3: with crime, this is all racism. We need to tell

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Speaker 3: them to be quiet. When people tell us, oh, we

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Speaker 3: can mutilate this child because the doctor says so, we

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Speaker 3: have to tell them to shut up.

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Speaker 2: When somebody says this is an anti Chinese screed that

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Speaker 2: you're on, no it's not. This isn't about my neighbor.

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Speaker 3: This is about the communist Chinese Party, and you better

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Speaker 3: believe am anti communist. And I don't really give a

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Speaker 3: damn if you like them or not. The answer is no,

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Speaker 3: we're right, you're wrong. Let's fight. It's a weird thing

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Speaker 3: to say out loud. Let's fight. The very concept seems

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Speaker 3: to blow people's minds because do I mean, am I

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Speaker 3: really suggesting? You know, let's get in the ring, Let's

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Speaker 3: get into the streets. Let's see how bad this is

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Speaker 3: going to get. I want to be clear, I'm not

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Speaker 3: challenging anybody to a fight. I'm not saying put up

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Speaker 3: your dukes. I am saying, as a society, we either

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Speaker 3: will survive or we won't. What is our plan? What's

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Speaker 3: our plan? And our plan should be to win, and

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Speaker 3: our plan should be for the Chinese to lose.

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Speaker 2: I don't care who's bothered by that. I'm bothered by communists.

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Speaker 3: I'm bothered by Commis, by pinkos, by the reds, by

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Speaker 3: as the late Great Russia Limba would say, the Chi coms.

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Speaker 3: You better believe it. I'm bothered by any group of

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Speaker 3: people that thinks that they can murder their way out

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Speaker 3: of a problem, which is the only thing that communists

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Speaker 3: have ever done, ever with any level of success. That

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Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. I don't care about the name calling.

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Speaker 3: I don't care how we're looked at by anybody. I

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Speaker 3: care about our survival and it cannot happen. It cannot

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Speaker 3: happen with the Chinese being able to harm us. No

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Speaker 3: more businesses, no more land, and for sales of the

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Speaker 3: land that they have. Sorry, they're not Americans. This is

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Speaker 3: national security. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: It's of the American people.

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Speaker 12: US District Judge Sutnonym found First Amendment violations and the

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Speaker 12: government investigation into media matters, which she stated is likely

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Speaker 12: to succeed in It's claimed that the FTC was using

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Speaker 12: this investigation as a retaliation against the launch dog group

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Speaker 12: for claims against a prominent Trump support.

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Speaker 2: Media Matters isn't a watchdog group.

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Speaker 3: It's a bunch of low lives who've built an organization

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Speaker 3: to attack Fox and then go after any conservative they want,

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Speaker 3: any time they want. They're not a watchdog group. Get

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Speaker 3: over yourself. It's representative was a McBath. They're from Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: So there's this hearing about free speech and nogel farrage,

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Speaker 3: of course from Great Britain, who helped lead Brexit is testifying.

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Speaker 3: There is this story of this guy who wrote some

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Speaker 3: got arrested for the posts. Even Kerre Starmer's if I

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Speaker 3: understand the story correctly, the Kure Starmer, the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: came out and said, listen, we've got real things to

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Speaker 3: focus on. We shouldn't be going after this guy. But

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Speaker 3: the free speech conversation in the UK is non existent,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't exist, there is no belief in it, there

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Speaker 3: is no thought to it. The whole of Europe absolutely

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Speaker 3: failing on this. They don't believe what we believe. Europe

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Speaker 3: is not the same. Europe is not as good. They

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Speaker 3: don't believe that the people should have a right to speak.

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Speaker 3: Yet they move heaven and earthly in the UK to

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Speaker 3: protect the Islamist You got the girl in Scotland fourteen

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Speaker 3: to prevent some legal immigrant or some immigrant that could

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Speaker 3: you know, discussing the UK from attacking her. She's carrying

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Speaker 3: a knife and an axe like a hatchet. She's the

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Speaker 3: one who gets arrested. She's the one who gets in trouble.

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Speaker 3: She is trying to survive. The people they have allowed

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Speaker 3: into the country have no interest in the country. They

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Speaker 3: have no interest in the country's survival. They want to

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Speaker 3: tear it down. You know, I was just talking about

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Speaker 3: China the UK. I have argued that Prince William, the

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Speaker 3: son of Prince Charles, the not crazy brother, as opposed

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Speaker 3: to Harry who whoo hey, look what Megan did to you.

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Speaker 3: You were the guy who brought us the Invictus Games

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Speaker 3: and now you're this guy Marry Well. Everybody, it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of advice for me

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Speaker 3: to you. Prince William will be the last king of

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Speaker 3: England Prince George, his eldest son, will not take the throne.

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Speaker 3: There will not be a throne to take if you

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Speaker 3: do not remove the Islamist from your nation forcibly. And

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Speaker 3: I think that one of the things is when I

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Speaker 3: talk like I'm talking about China and people look at

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Speaker 3: me and say, my gosh, Tony, so violence, you don't care?

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Speaker 3: Why are you such as xenophobe? Listen carefully. In the

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Speaker 3: history of the world, the Islam has never gotten along

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Speaker 3: with any society that they have been in. Ever, they

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Speaker 3: always want to conquer the society because that's who they are.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sick and tired of other people never having

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Speaker 3: read a book or somehow thinking that they can change them.

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Speaker 3: What a It should be a Hallmark movie. She is

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Speaker 3: a new school teacher, he's an Islamist. She sees something

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Speaker 3: in him, though she can change him. That Hallmark movie

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Speaker 3: would be really short. This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 13: When this support is taken away, the constitution of a

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Speaker 13: pre society is just, and tyranny is erected on its ruins.

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Speaker 13: An evil magistrate entrusted with power to punish for words,

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Speaker 13: would be armed with a weapon, the most destructive and

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Speaker 13: terrible under pretense of pruning off the exuberant branches. He

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Speaker 13: would be apt to destroy the tree.

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Speaker 3: It's a conversation about free speech happening right now.

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Speaker 2: That's Harriet Hegman speaking.

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Speaker 3: She is the congresswoman from Wyoming who took over for

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Speaker 3: Liz Cheney when Liz Chaney what's the word looking for

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Speaker 3: imploded became a Democrat? Lost your damn mind? Well, it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's one of those. It's one of those. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. Find everything

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Speaker 3: going on over at Tony kats dot com. The phone

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Speaker 3: number eight three three got Tony. That's how you get

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Speaker 3: four six eight eight six sixty nine. Of course, live

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Speaker 3: It's their Twitter ex to Tony Katz. Happy to take

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Speaker 3: the commentaries from there as well. I was watching part

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Speaker 3: of this and listening to a part of this, and

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Speaker 3: it was Representative Dan Goldman, the Democrat from New York,

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Speaker 3: the guy who anytime he's talking. He looks like he's

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Speaker 3: in a hostage video, talking about how Republicans don't value

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Speaker 3: free speech because the Trump raids John Bolton's home, the

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Speaker 3: former ambassador, former now security advisor, John Bolton's home, and

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Speaker 3: the left doesn't say the right doesn't say anything about it.

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Speaker 3: And this is all because John Bolton says negative things

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Speaker 3: about Donald Trump. That's that's not what happened. The John

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Speaker 3: Bolton raid starts from the Biden Department of Justice regarding

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Speaker 3: classified documents and possibly their misuse in writing a book

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Speaker 3: being emailed to people about Hey, I'm gonna write about this,

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Speaker 3: and hey, what do you think about that? The other

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Speaker 3: That's what the raid was about.

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Speaker 2: We know that for a fact.

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Speaker 3: And yet there is Congressman Dan Goldman, a liar and

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Speaker 3: a fraud of a human being, pushing the lies and

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Speaker 3: pushing the fraud. There are so many things, so many things,

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Speaker 3: so many ways, so many places we can engage an

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Speaker 3: honest conversation about what's happening in disagreement and places where

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Speaker 3: the political left could say, look at what the political

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Speaker 3: right is doing and be accurate. Why lie? Why lie?

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Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you lie when that's all you've got.

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Speaker 3: And this conversation about how the Democratic Party is moving

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Speaker 3: and maneuvering because this is all they have. All they

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is unbelievable. There are things that Democrats

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Speaker 2: This is one of those things.

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Speaker 3: President.

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Speaker 2: Right now, there have been survivors and Jeffrey seen not.

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Speaker 14: Seeing at a press conference on Capital Hill. They're hoing

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Speaker 14: for these case files, his documents, the Real East and

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Speaker 14: Thomas Nassey, who his father is a sensory and discharged position,

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Speaker 14: should get the House to vote on these of the documents. Says,

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Speaker 14: here's the big You're implicated in these files. But any

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Speaker 14: why Justice promptness predacting them as slow walking the release art.

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Speaker 14: He's a justice prop protecting any friends.

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Speaker 15: Or donors, sir.

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Speaker 4: So this is a Democrat hoax that never ends.

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Speaker 16: You know.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me.

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Speaker 3: A little of the Kennedy situation.

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Speaker 4: We gave them everything over and over again, more and

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Speaker 4: more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied. From what I understand,

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Speaker 4: I could check, but from what I understand thousands of

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Speaker 4: pages of documents have been given, But it's really a

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Speaker 4: Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk

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Speaker 4: about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've

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Speaker 4: had as a nation since I've been president.

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Speaker 3: Now, if the argument is the Democrats are trying to

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Speaker 3: change the story wholeheartedly miss the president absolutely agree. The

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Speaker 3: problem with the statement of Democrat hoax is that it

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Speaker 3: would put in in the totality, the idea that we

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Speaker 3: don't want this information, or somehow we don't deserve this information,

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Speaker 3: somehow we shouldn't get this information.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely we should.

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Speaker 3: So Democrats pushing for the Epstein stuff is within a

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Speaker 3: smart purview, and we should be clear that this lane

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Speaker 3: was gifted to them. Oh I'm gonna get yelled at.

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Speaker 3: It was gifted to them by President Trump and Pambondy.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm not, don't tell me. Pam Bondy is great.

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Speaker 3: I am outrageously disappointed. I had high hopes it was

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Speaker 3: Matt Gates, and I was like, why why Mack Gates?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, Matt Gates is out.

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Speaker 2: Pambondi is in.

657
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, this is good. Former Agia Florida

658
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: has a great story, tough as can be, and has

659
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: been no question. And then she invites a bunch of

660
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: bunch of influencers. Oh do I hate that term? A

661
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: bunch of influencers over to the White House and they're

662
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 3: all waving around these white binders.

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Speaker 2: We've got at the Epstein files. You didn't have anything.

664
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Speaker 2: What was this?

665
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: Then President Trump decides to say, well, the whole thing

666
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: is ridiculous.

667
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Why does anybody care?

668
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: And there were people on the political right who want

669
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: to say, yeah, we shouldn't be caring about this.

670
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Speaker 2: Trump says, don't pay attention to this.

671
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't. He doesn't tell me what I pay attention to.

672
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: I voted for the man three times. He works for me.

673
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't tell me when I get to pay attention

674
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: to who was on the island with Jeffrey Epstein, who

675
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: was abusing children. I want the sons of guns thrown

676
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: into jail. That's what I want. I'm not gonna somehow say, oh, well,

677
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: Donald Trump doesn't want it, so.

678
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: I guess that's not how any of this works.

679
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: And I really, you take a look at those people

680
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: on the political right did this, And I don't know

681
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: how I'm supposed to trust anything you say when you

682
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: engage clearly to curry favor, and not on the conviction.

683
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: So KATEA disagree the President was wrong about this. He's

684
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: right about the border, He's he's right about crime, he's

685
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: right about the audacity of the criminal activity of the

686
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Speaker 3: political left.

687
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: He's right on this one. He was wrong.

688
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, there were Epstein victims who were speaking out today

689
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Speaker 3: near the Capitol.

690
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Speaker 17: Transparency is justice, release the files and the secrecy and

691
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 17: stand with us and declaring that no one, no billionaires,

692
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 17: and no politicians, not world leaders, is above the law.

693
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 17: And let me announce now several of us vestine survivors

694
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 17: have been discussing creating our own list of names.

695
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Speaker 2: You can, man, those lawsuits are going to be fierce.

696
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: You name someone as an abuser and it wasn't them,

697
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: You're spend the rest of your life working at Walmart

698
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 3: to pay them off.

699
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Now that's a whole unique conversation.

700
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Speaker 3: And Edmarrissey off hot air dot Com breaks this down

701
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: pretty well. I'm somebody who wants the information, and I

702
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: think that President Trump made a I don't think I

703
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: know for fact he made a mistake when he said

704
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: hoax nonsense, doesn't matter. Why is anybody paying attention? He

705
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: gave the Democrats an opening, he did, and so I

706
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 3: favor the release of the materials. House Oversight released over

707
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: thirty thousand pages of documents. One of the things they

708
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: released was a bit of video. The bit of video

709
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: they released shows the missing minute, amongst other things, of

710
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: the Epstein videos of look, we've got the care, we've

711
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: got the camera from the door to a cell. He

712
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: clearly killed himself and nothing changed. Well, the online sleuths,

713
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: to which there are online sleuths. Also, I should not,

714
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: as a radio host use the word sleuth. It's very difficult,

715
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: very difficult. They noticed that time was missing out of

716
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 3: these videos. There's time missing, and the ag the Department

717
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: of Justice Pambondy said, well, that's because the tape haster

718
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: reset itself, so it always misses a minute. They found

719
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: the minute in the thirty thousand plus pages of documents

720
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: that were released. They found the minute. So the Justice

721
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: Department under Pambondy, which said, hey, influencers, here's a whole

722
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: bunch of information about Jeffrey Epstein. And just for the

723
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 3: sake of clarity, Jeffrey Epstein, the financier billionaire really running

724
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 3: a Ponzi scheme was in a Harvard guy in all

725
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: these high falutin circles, and Trump knew him back in

726
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: the day, and this one and that one and the

727
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: other one. He had an island. He was taking private

728
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: flights and utilizing this woman, Julane Maxwell, to find young girls,

729
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: had sexually abused young girls and get these young girls

730
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: to engage in sexual activity with other men who were

731
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: those men who were on the island engage in sexual

732
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: impropriety with these children. Those so called men have to

733
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: go to jail. This is my argument. That's Jeffrey Epstein.

734
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: So when Pam Bondy tells us here's information about Jeffrey Epstein,

735
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: and it's all the things we already knew, and then

736
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: we hear you're not allowed.

737
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Speaker 2: To have any more about Epstein. Stop thinking about Epstein.

738
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: Then you release a video, and then we noticed that

739
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: time is missing from the video. Then you give an

740
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: excuse to why time is missing, and then in a

741
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: new release we find the missing time. Oh god, forget

742
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: did I say I was gonna get emails before? Now

743
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: I'll get emails. Hey, Dan Bongino, it's time to leave.

744
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: It's time to tell us the story. The deputy director

745
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: of the FBI, whom I've not had contact with, he

746
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: got into the fight with Pam Bondi and he stated

747
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: that according to the stories, this is ridiculous and we're

748
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: not giving you this information. He wanted to leave, and

749
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: then he decided to stay, and then they put somebody

750
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: else in front. It was the age of a Missouri

751
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: whose name is eluding me. Right now, find me the

752
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 3: Attorney General Missouri who is now the deputy director of

753
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: the FBI, the code deputy director of the FBI with

754
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: Dan Bongino, and I said at the time, he'll be

755
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: back in the radio chair in six months. Dan, I'm sorry,

756
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Deputy director used the title. Be respectful, Tony, it's.

757
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Time to come home.

758
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: Boo. Now, don't do it in my time slot. Go

759
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: to a different time slot. But still, we see this

760
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: for what it is. This is madness, and no part

761
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 3: of this had to happen. You could have had scheduled

762
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: constant releases of information that you can release. Good's possible,

763
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: whether it be grand jury stuff or other stuff from

764
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: a judge. Hey, you can't release that. No, No, that's too private.

765
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: There's still playing that could have been released, and you

766
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: could have just handled this. You could have managed this

767
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: from the beginning, Pam Bondy, mister President, your team could

768
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: have managed this. They didn't. You gave the Democrats the opening.

769
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: I'm actually amazed they haven't taken more of the opening.

770
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: Want the information, not shying away from it, doubling down

771
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: on it. We want the information now. This from that

772
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: event today on the steps of the Capitol with survivors.

773
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Speaker 3: Allow me to say, I am sharing this from CBS News.

774
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: Earlier one was from Real America's Voice. I'm sharing this.

775
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: I cannot corroborate it. I am stating for the record

776
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: for the lawyers that I cannot corroborate this. But this

777
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: was the statement that was made.

778
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Speaker 18: Teen and the people who enabled them, and a government

779
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 18: that for far too long refused to help. In two

780
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Speaker 18: thousand and two, I was living in California, a young

781
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 18: woman with high aspirations of becoming an actress. I was

782
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 18: already beginning to make a name for myself in the industry.

783
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Speaker 18: A person I trusted, someone I thought was a friend,

784
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 18: invited me to meet a powerful woman who could help

785
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 18: advance my career. That woman happened to be Gillan Maxwell.

786
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 18: I was asked to give her a massage, though I

787
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 18: had almost no experience, and when I did, she praised

788
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Speaker 18: me and promised introductions to someone enormously powerful, someone who

789
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Speaker 18: could change the course.

790
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Speaker 2: Of my life.

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Speaker 18: And that man was Jeffrey Epstein. At first, I was

792
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 18: an excited young woman on top of the world. Epstein

793
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 18: flew me to his private island. He listened to my dreams,

794
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 18: promised to help. But his promises came with a catch.

795
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 18: The abuse began. He told me to keep it secret.

796
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 18: He manipulated me with quid pro quo I did not

797
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 18: consent to, but I felt I had no one to

798
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Speaker 18: turn to. He was too powerful. I was just one

799
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Speaker 18: of the many young women trapped in his orbit. I

800
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 18: was even taken on a trip to Africa with former

801
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 18: President Bill Clinton and other notable figures. In those moments,

802
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 18: I realized how powerless I was. If I spoke out,

803
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 18: who would believe me, who would protect me? Epstein himself

804
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 18: was the most powerful leader of our country. Epstein surrounded himself.

805
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Speaker 18: I'm sorry, with the most powerful leaders of our country

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Speaker 18: and the world.

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Speaker 3: Now, I cannot corroborate that I have no idea. Bill

808
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: Clinton goes about suing about them. When you start naming names,

809
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: you got to really have it right. But all of

810
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: this could have all been managed, all of it, and

811
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: I would argue still can stop calling it a hoax,

812
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 3: release what you can do it in a timely manner

813
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: and eliminate their ability to engage this. And oh, by

814
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: the way, this idea of oh, Trump's on the list,

815
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: and Trump's friends on the list, Democrats are on the list,

816
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: A lot of people from a lot of orbits are

817
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 3: on the list. Or we're in part of this orbit.

818
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: If there is no actual list, none of this had

819
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: to be, but it's here. And me, I want to

820
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: know who was abusing children, and I want to know

821
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: when we throw them in jail.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. I agree wholeheartedly.

823
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: With this tact that the Trump administration has taken regarding

824
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: Maduro the president if you will, of Venezuela, and you

825
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: have the USS Lake Erie, which is a guy to

826
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: miss cruiser crossing the Panama Canal into the Caribbean Sea

827
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: and right there saying, hey, Maduro is a drug runner,

828
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: he's going after our people. We're going to treat him

829
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: like one the handpicked successor of Hugo Chavez. We are

830
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: going to treat him like one. We are going to

831
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 3: take this guy out of the picture. I have zero

832
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: issue with this. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, it is

833
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: the right move in every way, the right move. Also,

834
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: it came out yesterday, it was late yes, that US

835
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: Space Command is moving to Alabama. So it was always Alabama, right,

836
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: that was the whole conversation. Then Biden won the election

837
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: and they decided it would be moved into Colorado. It

838
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: was a political decision, as many of these things are.

839
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: President Trump announcing that it's being moved out of Colorado

840
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: and being moved to Alabama, Huntsville forever to be known

841
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: from this point forward as Rocket City.

842
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: All right, you call it what you will.

843
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm fine.

844
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: With that.

845
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: Thirty thousand jobs and billions in investment, that's.

846
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: That's what's going on. And it's great for Alabama.

847
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 3: And you could argue, well, it's just political and he's

848
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: just rewarding a state they voted for him. Yeah, yeah,

849
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: one could argue that.

850
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: Real well, I guess that's the way it goes. Sometimes.

851
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 3: I do like the idea of more things moving out

852
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: of DC control, Like what's going on was it was

853
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: with the USDA, and they've gotten all these hubs around

854
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: the country. Is it the USDA? Yeah? I like this idea.

855
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 3: Why in the world do we house all these things

856
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: in DC away from where things are happening, might not

857
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 3: be closer to the action. So putting things regarding the

858
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: USDA in the Midwest, I love. I think it's a

859
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: smart move and a smart procedure or smart philosophy. I

860
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 3: have no problem with Space Command being moved to Huntsville.

861
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I had a problem with it being

862
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: in Colorado. I have no problem with it being moved.

863
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 3: Elections have consequences, said Barack Obama.

864
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: Well, yes, they certainly do, said south Park.

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Speaker 3: Find everything at tonycats dot com. So much more has happened,

866
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: and keep it here. This is Tony Kats today. I

867
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: am trying my best to make sense of this economy

868
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: and I can't do it. Listen. I don't claim any

869
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: level of economic expertise. What I do claim is that

870
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: I look at this stuff every day. And I could

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Speaker 3: take a look at a GDP of three point three percent,

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Speaker 3: and I can look at retail sales up point nine percent?

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Speaker 3: Was it. I could take a look at real wages

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Speaker 3: up point seven percent and annualized out basically five percent growth,

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Speaker 3: and say, dear lord, that's really really good. And if

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Speaker 3: everything is so good, why is everything so damn expensive?

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Speaker 3: Because the inflation has not gone anywhere. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 3: Katz today, good to be with you. I can take

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Speaker 3: a look at Salesforce bragging about the fact that AI

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Speaker 3: has allowed them to shed four thousand employees and no

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Speaker 3: one's talking about the fact that we're losing jobs.

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Speaker 2: And then I.

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Speaker 3: Could take a look at job opening data, which is

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Speaker 3: at an outrageous low. Charles Pain joins me right now.

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Speaker 3: You know him from Fox Business Making money with Charles

886
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Pain every single Monday through Friday at Fox Business. You

887
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: should be getting that on your cable channel or subscribing

888
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: to it. He is also the man behind W Street

889
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: like Wall Street Letter, w w Street dot Com. I

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Speaker 3: want to discuss inflation. I want to discuss what we're

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Speaker 3: going to see with interest rates. But first things first,

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Speaker 3: is this economy greater? Is this economy terrible? Because I

893
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Speaker 3: have no idea.

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Speaker 16: It's somewhere in the middle. Because you know what, it's

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Speaker 16: so likely you hear on TV and people say the

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Speaker 16: consumer there's no such thing, and there's no such thing

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Speaker 16: as the economy. And I think, listen, I don't. I

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Speaker 16: haven't gone through everything you know, throughout the history of time,

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Speaker 16: but I certainly feel like my time working on Wall

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Speaker 16: Street and being involved in the stock market, this is

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Speaker 16: one of the most bifurcated situations we've ever seen, where

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Speaker 16: just the folks at the top have so much tony,

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Speaker 16: they're doing so well, they are carrying the aggregated numbers.

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Speaker 16: So like you know when you mentioned retail sales, retail

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Speaker 16: sales are up, but if you adjust for inflation or

906
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Speaker 16: you know that they're flat for almost five years. You know,

907
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Speaker 16: wages the same sort of thing. You go down the line.

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Speaker 16: Then you had the CEO of mcdonald'sess are they saying

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Speaker 16: lark swapped to the customers skipping a meal? So you know,

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Speaker 16: it's just so bifrecated. Where you know, the stock markets

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Speaker 16: at all time high, bitcoins at all time high goals

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Speaker 16: at all time high houses are at all time highs.

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Speaker 16: And if you own assets are doing extraordinarily well. If

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Speaker 16: you don't, you are struggling. And both of those come

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Speaker 16: through periodically in the data. But that's the reality.

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Speaker 2: So the reality says that it's a mix.

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Speaker 3: What I hear from the Trump administration, of course, is

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Speaker 3: that everything is great, and everything is perfect, and everything

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Speaker 3: is wonderful. And yet I'm left with, I don't think

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Speaker 3: everything is wonderful. So let's start with at least a

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Speaker 3: couple of these numbers, the real wages being up as

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Speaker 3: you see it, Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: And where does that come from?

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Speaker 16: I think what we're saying is blue collar wages are

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Speaker 16: improved or have improved. And you know, it's sort of

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Speaker 16: ironic for everyone who's spent the last ten twelve years

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Speaker 16: telling their daughters to learn how to code, and that

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Speaker 16: it's sort of coming. You know that those folks aren't

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Speaker 16: getting jobs, whereas blue collar workers are are getting raises.

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Speaker 16: But and again you know it's and not in that

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Speaker 16: stuff you've got to be really careful with on a

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Speaker 16: month to month basis. This year we've come out to

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Speaker 16: get pretty good blue collar wages are doing well. But

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Speaker 16: you already mentioned how many people are being laid off

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Speaker 16: at salesforce. Lots of people have been laid off in

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Speaker 16: the high paying tech area, and that's not necessarily reflected.

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Speaker 16: They're really the jobs and wages there are two things right

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Speaker 16: the front, the one end where you have layoffs today,

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Speaker 16: I mean tomorrow will be initial job was claims, and

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Speaker 16: everyone kind of looks at that. But I think the

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Speaker 16: real pain and agony is on the other side of it,

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Speaker 16: the attrition side, when people have been laid off and

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Speaker 16: they can't find a job, to continuing claims almost two million,

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Speaker 16: you know, the job support this morning, the JILT support

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Speaker 16: the lowest jobs opening numbers since December of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 16: So you know, it's again, it's a bifurcated situation where

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Speaker 16: some people are doing well. And I had a plumber,

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Speaker 16: two plumbers come over on Monday and they were there

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Speaker 16: for less than an hour when it was six hundred

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Speaker 16: and fifty bucks. So you know, some people are doing well,

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Speaker 16: but the masses are really really struggling. And it's it's

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Speaker 16: and you know, when you mentioned wages, I also want

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Speaker 16: to bring up the FED because one of the things

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Speaker 16: that's always bugged me and I posted it on X

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Speaker 16: the other day on Labor Day, is when we look

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Speaker 16: at the share of GDP, wages have tumbled have crashed

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Speaker 16: since really since two thousand and nine, dramatically, and so

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Speaker 16: the average person out there is not keeping up with

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Speaker 16: the overall prosperity of the country. And so when I

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Speaker 16: see the people finally getting a raised and the Fed

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Speaker 16: wants to tamp down on that, it drives me nuts.

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Speaker 16: You know, Americans should get a raised and should be

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Speaker 16: getting raises for a long time, just to sort of

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Speaker 16: catch up with the natural curve of prosperity that the

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Speaker 16: overall nation is enjoying. But it's things like AI and

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Speaker 16: data centers.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Charles Pain Fox Business.

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Speaker 3: Catch them every Monday too Friday over there on Fox

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Speaker 3: businesses show Making Money and the website w Street dot com.

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Speaker 3: Checking out your Twitter feed, x feed cv Pain pay

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Speaker 3: time to rebuild the labor force and allow wages to grow.

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Speaker 3: You have been one of the peoples you bring up

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Speaker 3: the Fed discuss any how interest rates should come down,

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Speaker 3: that this has been nutty, this has been unnecessary, And

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Speaker 3: what is Jerome Powell doing? Do you still feel that way?

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Speaker 16: I do? I do, because I think that that's people

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Speaker 16: are looking at the Fed through the same lens, and

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Speaker 16: it's the lens at Wall Street sold to America, and

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Speaker 16: that's like, you know, well, the stock market's up, you know,

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Speaker 16: prosperity is nice, the FED shouldn't intervene. But again, there's

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Speaker 16: a certain group of people who've made money. Think about

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Speaker 16: where money market funds were about five years ago. You know,

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Speaker 16: there was a time where I never even heard the

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Speaker 16: term faded, Like you know, I'm going to open a

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Speaker 16: CD or a money market, right, I just no one

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Speaker 16: talked about it. And then you had this abrupt, strong

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Speaker 16: hiking of rates. All of a sudden, you can get

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Speaker 16: four and a half five percent in the money market,

989
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Speaker 16: and so it went from zero to seven trillion dollars.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, you know, people who could afford to put

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Speaker 16: money in those that doing extraordinarily well, they there billions,

992
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Speaker 16: one hundreds of billions. Think about warm Buppet sitting on

993
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Speaker 16: a record amount of four undred billion dollars in cash.

994
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Speaker 16: But then think about the folks who's you know, credit

995
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Speaker 16: card bill was sixteen percent and now it's twenty two percent,

996
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Speaker 16: and the same thing for an auto loan. And forget

997
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Speaker 16: about how many people have been shut out a housing market.

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Speaker 16: So you know, tomorrow I think they begin a confirmation

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Speaker 16: process for Steve Myron, and I really hope that he

1000
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Speaker 16: can get in there and some other folks, and they

1001
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Speaker 16: really retool the fed so that it's not just you know,

1002
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Speaker 16: it's just not a tool of keeping a wealthy wealthy.

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Speaker 16: And I just I hate to say it, but that's

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Speaker 16: all it is. And you know, if you tell Pole, hey,

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Speaker 16: you know, or Bostic who spoke today, you know that

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Speaker 16: the CEO McDonald's just saying a lartswafth of Americans are

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Speaker 16: skipping meals. They're going to look at the aggregod data

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Speaker 16: and say we don't see it.

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Speaker 3: Well, McDonald's now adds the extra value meal because they're

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Speaker 3: trying to get even more people through the door. Talking

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Speaker 3: to Charles Paying a Fox Business CV paying pa I

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Speaker 3: n on the Twitter actually should follow him there. This

1013
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 3: is not the first time I've heard you discuss and

1014
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Speaker 3: we've had plenty of conversations, and I always appreciate it

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Speaker 3: and appreciate you taking the time. This is not the

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Speaker 3: first time you've really gotten into and it seems to

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 3: very much bother you in a visceral way. What I

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Speaker 3: would describe as if I was hearing it from a progressive,

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Speaker 3: this idea of classist that the rich are and here's

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Speaker 3: how it affecting the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's.

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Speaker 3: A it's odd to hear you playing almost in a

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Speaker 3: proletariat bourgeoisie conversation. I'd like for you to get a

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Speaker 3: little more detailed. What is it that you're seeing as

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Speaker 3: the issue.

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Speaker 16: It's not, it's not the blame game per se. You know,

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Speaker 16: I'm just saying that we have to retool the way

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Speaker 16: that that right now. Sadly, we all live for the

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Speaker 16: stock market, and most people don't realize that, but that's

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Speaker 16: what they're doing when they walk outside. They have been

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01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 16: retold to live for the stock market. And listen, I'm

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Speaker 16: a champion of the summer stock market. I want people

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Speaker 16: to invest, and I urged people to invest, and I

1034
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 16: started when I was seventeen. But the scales have tipped

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Speaker 16: too far and it's going to end up where not

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Speaker 16: just New York City election socialists, but you know, the

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Speaker 16: moin may elect the socialists at some point. So you know,

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Speaker 16: I'm just saying that the people who pull the power,

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Speaker 16: who have the levers, need to understand that when gains

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Speaker 16: from wages collapse, but asset holders are living their best life.

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Speaker 16: People watch now. The thing is, the top ten percent

1042
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 16: only get one vote, and so while the top ten

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Speaker 16: percent may be doing fifty cent of the purchases. And

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Speaker 16: that's fine with Wall Street. As long as the bottom

1045
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Speaker 16: line looks juicy. They don't care how it got there.

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Speaker 16: Those other ninety percent will have a vote in a say,

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Speaker 16: and at some point they may give up on the system.

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Speaker 16: And you know, one of the most brilliant politics since

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Speaker 16: in history was Auto von Bismarck. And one of the

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Speaker 16: things he did he saw on the spread of socialism

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Speaker 16: in Europe and he said, listen, I'm not going to

1052
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Speaker 16: fight it. I'm going to use judo. I'm going to persuade,

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Speaker 16: you know, the emperor to implement social security, you know,

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Speaker 16: as a as a socialist kind of thing, an offering.

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Speaker 16: And of course it was brilliant because at the time,

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Speaker 16: you know, again sixty five years old. Back then, the

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Speaker 16: average person was living like forty five to fifty, so

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Speaker 16: it was sort of it was a promise. It was

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Speaker 16: an empty promise, but it was something to sort of

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Speaker 16: feed the masses so that they wouldn't completely absorb or

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Speaker 16: embrace socialism. And so what I'm saying is that you

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Speaker 16: have a system where I read an article today Oracle

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Speaker 16: is going to lay off a bunch of people. That's

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Speaker 16: good and fine, and dandy. You know, they've had a

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Speaker 16: hell of a year. This talk is up huge. Larry

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Speaker 16: Ellison's not a second richest person in the world, and

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Speaker 16: I'm really happy for him. One of his things was,

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Speaker 16: you know, he always wanted to take down Bill Gates.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's just that we're not careful as a nation.

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Speaker 17: Uh.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's it's it's it's gonna tilt over in

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Speaker 16: the wrong way. So I love I'm a big believer

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Speaker 16: in hard work. I urge people to work hard. I'm

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Speaker 16: a I'm a big believer that, you know, don't give

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Speaker 16: people think so they can earn it themselves, and by

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Speaker 16: the same token, make sure that there's something they can earn.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Charles Pain of a FoxBusiness dot com before

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Speaker 3: I let you go, as we we engage these conversations

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Speaker 3: about the economy, and maybe it's it is a little

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Speaker 3: bit as a concept in the ether, we continue to

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Speaker 3: see something in reality, which is tariffs.

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Speaker 2: And I have never been a big tariff guy.

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to see deals, I want to actually

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Speaker 3: see the effect of the deal, not just the announcement

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Speaker 3: of the deal. If if a market's going to open

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Speaker 3: up to us in agriculture, they're going to buy five

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Speaker 3: billion dollars. Let's say the UK is of agriculture or

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Speaker 3: or or meat products, livestock products. I want to the

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Speaker 3: actual buying, not just the conversation of it happening, but

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Speaker 3: the White House talks clearly about how this is working.

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Speaker 3: And President Trump the other's day said without tariffs, the

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Speaker 3: country would fall apart. That seems to be a bit

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Speaker 3: of hyperbole that we would fall apart without tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that the US is winning.

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Speaker 3: Any level of trade war or maybe evening the playing field.

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Speaker 16: I feel like we're We've won about eighty five percent

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Speaker 16: of it, with just a couple more to win. You know.

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Speaker 16: It's I thought it was interesting. I had that Yard

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Speaker 16: Denny as one of the most respected guys in the

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Speaker 16: street yesterday, and he pointed to yesterday's market turmoil as

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Speaker 16: the street being worried that the tariffs will go away.

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Speaker 16: You know, because Wall Street and It's infinite wisdom always

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Speaker 16: at some point figures it out, digest it, and then

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Speaker 16: actually starts to model around it. Right, And you know,

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Speaker 16: I think we just run a thirty one billion dollars

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Speaker 16: in August, So if you had like three hundred billion

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Speaker 16: a year, three trillion dollars in that game. You know,

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Speaker 16: that's that's that's pretty good, pretty good money right there.

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Speaker 16: So no, we wouldn't fall apart per se. I'm with

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Speaker 16: you in the sense that you know it serves many purposes,

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Speaker 16: and you know one could be revenue for the economy,

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Speaker 16: for the government. But I'd like the other idea of

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Speaker 16: bringing jobs back, bringing manufacturing back. But I think you can't.

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Speaker 16: I think we've got to give it time to work.

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Speaker 16: I really think this is one of these policies. If

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Speaker 16: it goes through, and it's allowed to go through, we

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Speaker 16: need to judge it in like two years from now,

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Speaker 16: you know, the myopic need to say, oh, well, there

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Speaker 16: wasn't a factory when I woke up this morning. It's

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Speaker 16: you know, or you know, they didn't buy the UK

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Speaker 16: didn't buy any cattle last night. It's got to work.

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Speaker 16: The paperwork's got to be done, all the stuff has

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Speaker 16: got to be done, all the all the dots and

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Speaker 16: x's and o's and all that other stuff behind the scenes.

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Speaker 16: But I say, give it a chance to work. Allowed

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Speaker 16: to work, because we have seen the opposite effect. We

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Speaker 16: have seen a hollowing out of our nation. We've seen

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Speaker 16: the hollowing out of our industrial base. And it's so

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Speaker 16: amazing to me. Every day I wake up and there's

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Speaker 16: these amazing stories about how great China is, whether it's

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Speaker 16: the Wall Street Journal or anybody else. And yet this

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Speaker 16: was their model, right They gargantua and tariffs. You know,

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Speaker 16: no one could buy do anything in their business. They

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Speaker 16: took every industry from US gladly and Europe by the way,

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Speaker 16: and you know, and and and now they have the momentum,

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Speaker 16: the win in their sales, and so trying to reverse

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Speaker 16: that as a noble gesture. For me, it's a necessary gesture.

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Speaker 3: Also necessary. I'm down with Charles payin Fox Business. Go

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Speaker 3: to W Street dot com and get all the information.

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Speaker 3: Be a part of what he's building over there. Charles Pain,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time more than I.

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Speaker 16: Man every time. Love the conversation every time.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thank you. I'm Tony Karratt.

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Speaker 3: On the subject of that extra value meal, they are

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Speaker 3: they are bringing it. McDonald's is bringing the extra value meal. Uh,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna do a bundle and give people fifteen percent

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Speaker 3: off when you get the value meal. And this is

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Speaker 3: how I know that everything isn't great. I think Charles's

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: argument is very very interesting, and it isn't. That's why

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Speaker 3: I asked him about it in specific, because it's not

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Speaker 3: the first time I've heard him talk about the people

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Speaker 3: who have and the people who don't.

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Speaker 2: And he's really getting like.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was almost a bit somber there. He's

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Speaker 3: really bothered at least, that's my take from his times

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Speaker 3: here on the show about how Wall Street is treating

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Speaker 3: the average investor, which is to say, not the super

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Speaker 3: rich person, and actually how Wallstreet is treating the average person,

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Speaker 3: and how this government is treating the average person, specifically

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Speaker 3: the FED. This is the part that's bothering him. The

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Speaker 3: extra value meal is a signal to me that people

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Speaker 3: are still looking for the lowest common denominator. Why does

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Speaker 3: it bother me when Walmart sales are up or coal

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Speaker 3: sales are up. It means that people are reducing themselves

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Speaker 3: to the perceived value. They don't even know if necessarily

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Speaker 3: these places are really check by any degree compared to

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Speaker 3: other places they were shopping.

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Speaker 2: But in their head they're like, I got to reduce

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Speaker 2: my costs, so I go.

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Speaker 3: To here now, and I spend my money here and

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Speaker 3: in some things certainly they're less expensive.

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Speaker 2: That is not the sign of thriving.

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Speaker 3: It would be the sign of thriving if people from

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Speaker 3: lower incomes were able to move themselves up, had more

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Speaker 3: expendable income, and this is where they were spending it.

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Speaker 3: That's not the case. The extra value meal is not

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Speaker 3: the case. It's about fighting for the slice of the pie.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, go fight. We all are.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, his conversation.

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Speaker 3: And me and talking about this extra value meal like

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Speaker 3: it rings horribly true. I'm not saying I want government intervention.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying it brings up an interesting point.

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Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Kats. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Vall Heartbiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today, President Trump welcoming the president of

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Speaker 3: Poland to the White House.

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Speaker 2: And you say, to me, Tony, that's news.

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Speaker 3: If we are smart, we need to be taking a

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Speaker 3: look at Europe and asking ourselves exactly what relationships do

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Speaker 3: we have and what relationships should we have and maybe,

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Speaker 3: just maybe there is a value, if not in the

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Speaker 3: complete reordering of these relationships, but in the recognition that

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Speaker 3: more relationships might be very, very beneficial Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 3: Katz today, good to be with you. Poland is more

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Speaker 3: pro America than the UK. Why don't we notice that?

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Speaker 3: Why don't we engage with that? Should all our engagement

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Speaker 3: has to be the UK in France? No, no, it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: And that's my point, and I'll dig more into that

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Speaker 3: in the days and weeks ahead. I have a lot

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Speaker 3: to get to at Morrissey joins Us this hour. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot going on economically. There's the whole fight in Venezuela,

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Speaker 3: as the pressure is on Nicholas Maduro, the president there,

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Speaker 3: as the White House basically has dubbed him the drug

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Speaker 3: runner in chief. I don't know if they've actually said

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Speaker 3: those words yet, but they should, and if they do,

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Speaker 3: give me full credit. But of course, the conversation of

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Speaker 3: crime is front and center. Well, there's a story over

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Speaker 3: at Fox News Nobody's in Control. It reads the headline

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Speaker 3: as chaotic street takeovers terrorized cities across the.

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Speaker 2: US, and I thought this was just happening in my city.

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Speaker 3: You've got mobs that show up and are just walking

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Speaker 3: through the streets and walking through cars and traffic. It

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Speaker 3: paralyzing traffic because nobody wants to hit the person, because

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Speaker 3: then they're gonna get sued.

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Speaker 2: I only hope that that changes.

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Speaker 3: If you're walking in the middle of the street and

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Speaker 3: terrorizing people, you should expect bad things to happen. And

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Speaker 3: then there's the idea of the people who are doing

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: the peel outs, right, they're taking over intersections and they're

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Speaker 3: doing the donuts. This has been happening in a lot

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Speaker 3: of places, and I think the question that people are

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Speaker 3: asking is how do you stop this? How in the

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Speaker 3: world do you stop this from happening? Well, I think

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Speaker 3: it's two things on that one. First, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you could necessarily stop a group of people from

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Speaker 3: doing this when you know in terms of can you

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Speaker 3: be proactive to that?

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Speaker 2: But can you stop them when they're doing it? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me we have the capacity to shoot

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Speaker 3: a netting to someone who's let's say, in a police pursuit,

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Speaker 3: we could shoot a netting onto their tire and stop

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Speaker 3: their car from driving.

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Speaker 2: We can't do anything to these people. No, this is

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Speaker 2: about willpower.

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Speaker 3: And yes, you could argue it could get violent, it

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Speaker 3: could get dangerous, sure, absolutely, But if you were to

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Speaker 3: take four or five heavy duty vehicles and just park them.

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Speaker 3: As these people are doing donuts right there in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the street, you'll at least start to stop them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I have the perfect answer.

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Speaker 3: I am saying that everything seems to be a subject

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Speaker 3: of will. What are you willing to do? You have

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Speaker 3: a story about Boston where you have one hundred bicyclists.

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Speaker 3: They are on e bikes and dirt bikes, taking over

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Speaker 3: the highway and driving through traffic, terrifying drivers.

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Speaker 2: Drivers think they're gonna hit them and getting in the way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a way to take care of

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Speaker 3: those bicyclists too, And yes, some of them are gonna

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Speaker 3: go butts over heads, over their handlebars.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, how else is it gonna stop?

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Speaker 3: Because we're not trying to stop people from enjoying their

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Speaker 3: car or not going on a bike ride. We're trying

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Speaker 3: to stop them from thinking that they're so important that

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Speaker 3: they could terrorize the rest of us, or they can

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Speaker 3: inconvenience the rest of us. The answer is no, let's

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Speaker 3: inconvenience them aggressively. At least try to get them to

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Speaker 3: stop that way. This is Tony Katz Today. Find everything

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Speaker 3: at Tony kats dot com. So the Democratic Party has

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 3: decided that everything going wrong with crime is all the

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Speaker 3: fault of Republicans because they have a gun loss. They're

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Speaker 3: okay with people owning guns. And if you just got

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Speaker 3: rid of Indiana, that's the way Chicago has always said it,

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Speaker 3: Illinois has always said it. You heard Minnesota say if

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Speaker 3: you got rid of these red states, well you'd be

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Speaker 3: you'd be safe as can be.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I despise these people with absolutely everything in me. Ed

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Speaker 3: Marssey joins me right now from hotair dot com. He

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Speaker 3: is the Capo ditty coppo over there, the managing editor

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Speaker 3: of hot air dot Com. This is Dick Durbin, a man.

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Speaker 3: He's a Senator of Illinois, a man most aptly named

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Speaker 3: Ed Morrissey. I just just just be clear, as I've

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Speaker 3: got some lawn equipment going in the background right there.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna blame it on me, Ed, but it's you.

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Speaker 3: It's you, and you're gated elitism.

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Speaker 15: How about my lawn's going to look fabulous at the

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Speaker 15: end of this interview, Tony, let me, let me, let me, let.

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Speaker 2: Me share this with you.

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Speaker 3: This is Dick Durbin, blaming the issues of Chicago and

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Speaker 3: the violence of Chicago on Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Listen, this is CNN.

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Speaker 9: Now crime has been violent crime. The levels have been

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Speaker 9: going down in Chicago, as they have in many cities

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Speaker 9: across the United States, according to FBI Crime statistics.

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Speaker 2: There's a quote that's often.

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Speaker 9: Attributed to former Chicago Mayor Ram Emmanuel who says it's

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Speaker 9: great when the numbers go down, but people don't walk around,

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Speaker 9: saying I feel twenty two percent safer.

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Speaker 3: What do you think people feel like is happening in Chicago. Well,

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Speaker 3: I tell you one thing.

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Speaker 16: They feel like.

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Speaker 15: They feel like they're too damn many guns in Chicago,

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Speaker 15: and they're coming in from other states like Indiana.

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Speaker 16: Federal government want to help us stop this flow of

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Speaker 16: weapons into our of Chicago and state of Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Now I live in Indiana, and I have very very strong

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Speaker 3: words for Senator Durban, for Mayor Johnson, for Governor Pritzker,

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Speaker 3: and I am convinced that Senator Banks of Indiana, Senator

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Speaker 3: Young of Indiana, the Governor Mike Brown, the former Senator

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Speaker 3: need to be very vocal and very loud in their faces.

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Speaker 2: Just who the hell do you think you're talking to?

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Speaker 2: On this subject.

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Speaker 3: But this is just part and parcel of the Democratic

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 3: Party on the subject of violence and crime and the

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 3: problem saying no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: You're the problem.

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Speaker 3: Everything else is the problem except the way they do things.

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01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: They do it right. Everything else is the issue. They

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 3: cannot believe, Ed Morrissey, that this messaging is working or

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Speaker 3: connecting with Americans.

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Speaker 15: Well, I don't think it is. I think that they

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Speaker 15: think it is, but I don't think it is. I

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 15: think that they are living in a very well curated

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01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 15: bubble where this message is what all right, all right,

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 15: thinking people think, right, it's not us, it's the one

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Speaker 15: armed men, right, It's somebody else's fault. It's always somebody

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01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 15: else's fault, because progressivism is perfect, and so any imperfections

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Speaker 15: are really the fault of people who are trying to

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01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 15: undermine it. The truth is, and people in Chicago have

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Speaker 15: to be realizing this. The truth is is that when

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Speaker 15: you don't enforce the law, this is what happens now. Washington,

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Speaker 15: d C is a great example of what you can

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Speaker 15: do with more resources. And even the mayor of Washington,

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Speaker 15: d C, who's not exactly a you know, a rib

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Speaker 15: Rock conservative mayor, Muriel Bowser, is not happy about the

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Speaker 15: fact that the National Guard was sent in there, but

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Speaker 15: is happy with the resources and is recognizing that all

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Speaker 15: these resources are drastically lowering crime in the city. And

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Speaker 15: nobody had to seize the guns in Maryland and Virginia

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Speaker 15: for that to happen. All you needed was resources applied

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 15: and law enforced at its most basic level. And this

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01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 15: is broken windows policing. We've seen it work before. Rudy

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Speaker 15: Giuliani did it in New York City in the late

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Speaker 15: nineteen eighties early nineteen nineties, and it had a dramatically

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Speaker 15: beneficial effect. That's what we're seeing Washington DC over the

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Speaker 15: last three or four weeks is that you've got a

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01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 15: flood of resources on the streets that are keeping people

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Speaker 15: from committing crimes and escalating into more serious crimes. I mean,

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01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 15: this is absurd, And the problem is that this normally works,

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Speaker 15: except now that Trump has this example in Washington, DC

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 15: to show, to show you know that they're lying that

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01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 15: basically this is nonsense and they have to somehow match

1343
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 15: those results without using Trump's policies to do it, and

1344
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 15: they're never going to be able to do it, and

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 15: they're painted into a corner as a result.

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Speaker 3: And now I get into JB. Pritzker, the governor who

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01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: talking about you know, as you're talking about Maria Bowser,

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Speaker 3: the mayor of DC. Like the resources, don't like the strategy.

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Speaker 3: It's almost as if Pritsker is trying to play into

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Speaker 3: that playbook.

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Speaker 19: Listen, I have the rug pulled out from underneath me.

1352
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 19: When execution meets reality. I refuse to play a reality

1353
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 19: game show with Donald Trump again. What I want are

1354
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 19: the federal dollars that have been promised to Illinois and

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Speaker 19: Chicago for violence prevention programs that have proven to work.

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Speaker 19: That is money that Illinois taxpayers send to the federal government.

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Speaker 19: And it's an insult to any and every citizen to

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Speaker 19: suggest that any governor should have to beg the president

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Speaker 19: of any political party for resources owed their people.

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Speaker 3: Now I think it's kind of rich to hear JB.

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Speaker 3: Pritzker say you owe us this money that we pay

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Speaker 3: you in taxes. I can make that argument about a

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: million different things, and Democrats will laugh me out of

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Speaker 3: the room, thinking that somehow I deserve my own money.

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Speaker 3: And it's also an argument against paying taxes. Why not

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01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 3: just give it to the state. Why do you have

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01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: to give it to the federal government and then beg

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Speaker 3: back for it. That's been a conservative argument on a

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Speaker 3: great number of issues for years now. But he seems

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Speaker 3: to be saying that if you give us the dollars,

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Speaker 3: we can take care of this. And then he goes

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Speaker 3: into a conversation about violence prevention program. I don't actually

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Speaker 3: know what that is, but he seems to be tiptoeing

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Speaker 3: around the idea that we don't mind the resources, we

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 3: don't mind the push of even the people. What is

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Speaker 3: it that they're claiming they actually mind in this case.

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Speaker 15: The national Guard. They don't want the National Guard on

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Speaker 15: the streets. And look, Pritzker can block that because it

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01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 15: requires you know, Washington, d c. Is a federal jurisdiction.

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Speaker 15: So Trump can just order the National Guard into the

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Speaker 15: streets there. That's a federal jurisdiction. Trump has that authority.

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Speaker 15: He doesn't have that authority in Chicago, New York. You know,

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Speaker 15: the only thing that he can use the National Guard

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Speaker 15: for in those cases is to protect federal property and

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Speaker 15: federal agents who are doing you know, jurisdictional appropriate work

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Speaker 15: in those in those cities. And that's what he did

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Speaker 15: in Los Angeles, He didn't send the National Guard in

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Speaker 15: there to enforce the state and local laws. He sent

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Speaker 15: them in there to protect federal agents who are enforcing

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Speaker 15: federal laws. So Prinsker can keep it from happening, and

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Speaker 15: Prince Grew's going to keep it from happening. He doesn't

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Speaker 15: want the National Guard in Chicago. Well, that's fine and dandy,

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01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 15: but he also doesn't want to cooperate with CE on

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Speaker 15: immigration enforcement, which is the reason why those resources are

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01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 15: being held back from Chicago, is because they are blocking

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Speaker 15: IC from being able to enforce federal law in Chicago,

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Speaker 15: which they have the jurisdiction to do and don't need

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Speaker 15: Printzker's permission to do it. So as long as they're

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Speaker 15: as long as they're doing that, Trump has said, you're

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Speaker 15: not going to get federal resources from us because you're

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01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 15: blocking us from doing our jobs, and they.

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Speaker 2: Don't like that.

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 16: Now, the.

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01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 15: Dirty little secret here is that they have been getting

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01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 15: those money. They got tons of federal funding from the

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Speaker 15: Biden administration, and it didn't do anything for crime. Right

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 15: that wasn't already happening on a national basis anyway, because

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Speaker 15: when you hear that crime is down twenty two percent,

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01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 15: it's from the peak in twenty twenty that they're talking

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 15: about during the pandemic, during all the riots, during all

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01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 15: that eye on the police nonsense.

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Speaker 3: I made this point to somebody on my morning show

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: earlier today. Why is the left is always claiming that

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01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 3: crime is down? Is this true? And you could say yes,

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01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 3: based on the data, crime in certain areas and certain

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01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 3: subjects is down, But you're not discussing the three thousand

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: percent increase in crime that took place over the last

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Speaker 3: few years. If it's down five percent, don't tell us

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: it's down. And I do think that that raw Mammanuel

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Speaker 3: line is very interesting. I don't feel twenty two percent safer.

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01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: It's actually a very very smart approach to the conversation.

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01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 3: It's a binary thing. You either feel safe or you

1423
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 3: do not feel safe. Either women are the only ones

1424
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 3: who can get pregnant, or women are the only ones

1425
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: who can get pregnant. Again, it's binary. It's the way.

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Speaker 2: That one works.

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01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 3: But I go back to this idea of how does

1428
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: the left think that this is working for them? Because

1429
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: we you and I had this discussion last week. These

1430
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: people are not dumb, but they have chosen to be

1431
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 3: against the idea of enforcing the law and cleaning up

1432
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: their own cities. Wouldn't the better approach be, mister President,

1433
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: We've got a problem here, it's for sure, and we

1434
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 3: would love your help and this in this area. Don't

1435
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: send this, but send this, and together we can clean

1436
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: it up and show real bipartisanship. What do you say

1437
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: Trump would do it. He would engage. This is the

1438
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 3: stuff he lives for in that regard, and no one

1439
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 3: yet on the political left can do it, because that

1440
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 3: would be to admit that their system of a lack

1441
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 3: of policing and then coupled with a lack of prosecute

1442
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: never benefited. It was all ideological, and so they until

1443
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 3: they admit they can't actually succeed. But when they go

1444
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 3: down this road of no, no, no, we don't have a

1445
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 3: problem here, there's no way it connects with anybody who

1446
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 3: is already an ideologue living in the suburbs in a

1447
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 3: gated community having their lawn taken care of like you.

1448
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, I also like to sip on cocktails

1449
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 15: and chat about proosts. You know, it's totally me. You've

1450
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 15: got me nailed, Tony. I don't know what to tell you.

1451
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 15: The reason why. The short answer to your question is

1452
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 15: that the only thing that Democrats stand for right now

1453
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 15: is opposing Trump. So anything that Trump does, they automatically

1454
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 15: need Jr.

1455
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: Composed. Doesn't matter what it is.

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01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 15: Trump could come out and say water is great, and

1457
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 15: they would tell you all the different ways in which

1458
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 15: water is insufficient for whatever it is that you're trying

1459
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 15: to do. You know, you can say that the sky

1460
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 15: is blue, and you'd have a whole literal rainbow of

1461
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 15: commentary coming out and saying, well, actually it's purple in

1462
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 15: some instances an orange, and I mean, it's just absurd.

1463
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 15: They don't stand for anything. They don't stand for good governance.

1464
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 15: The only thing they stand for is that Donald Trump

1465
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 15: is a big meaning he's a threat to us, and

1466
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 15: we have to oppose him by all means necessary on

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01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 15: every single thing he does. Bauser actually has the right idea,

1468
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 15: get the benefit from it, take some credit for it,

1469
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 15: for cooperating while still complaining about the fact that Trump,

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01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 15: I mean, that's actually smart. She's actually chosen the smartest

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01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 15: possible path, and she's probably gonna benefit from that in

1472
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 15: the long run. Certainly, I think Trump has lightened up

1473
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 15: on her somewhat.

1474
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh sure, so.

1475
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 15: She's done going through that type of stuff anyway. But

1476
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 15: that's actually a smart thing to do. You're right, what

1477
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 15: you just said was right. Why don't you send in

1478
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 15: five hundred National Guard troops because we're short on police officers.

1479
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 15: While we do some recruiting, we can have the National

1480
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Speaker 15: Guard do some you know, some of the lower level

1481
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 15: stuff so that the police officers we do have can

1482
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 15: be out in forced in enforcing the law. Now, the

1483
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 15: reason why that would be smart is it would look

1484
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 15: like you're getting the resources, you're cooperating with Trump, But

1485
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 15: it doesn't mean that you have to have to change

1486
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 15: your policing policies. If you did that, you could still

1487
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 15: do the same stupid policing policies and then claim later

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01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 15: that it didn't really make any difference to have the

1489
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Speaker 15: National Guard in the city. I mean, there's all sorts

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01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 15: of different ways you could play that. That's the most

1491
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 15: cynical way you could play that. The other thing would

1492
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 15: be to recognize that you're not providing good governance because

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 15: people are afraid to go out of their homes in

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01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 15: the cities that you control, and that you actually want

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01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 15: to govern will and protect people and want the resources

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01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 15: to do that while you build, you know, other paths

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01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 15: to deliver the same product. The issue is that they're

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01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 15: not going to do any of that. Those cities are

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01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 15: going to continue to be dangerous, deadly fatal, while Washington's

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01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 15: in DC improves and the contrast will not be lost

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01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 15: on people across the country.

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Speaker 3: And that's just it. You know, we may think of

1503
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 3: democratic policies as daft and ignorant, and people may in

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01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: the passing call it and call them dumb, call it dumb.

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01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: But you have to just accept these are not dumb people.

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01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 3: They're trying to win, they're trying to be victorious, they're

1507
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 3: trying to keep their power, and in every situation they're

1508
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 3: moving in a way that guarantees that they won't And

1509
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 3: as somebody who's an observer, you're left wondering, why do

1510
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 3: they keep doing it? Your argument is they have nothing

1511
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: so that they can talk about. I don't disagree, but

1512
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 3: usually you invent something, and every single time they turn,

1513
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 3: they only invent something that guarantees their failure.

1514
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: And that's insane.

1515
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: As a matter of just sheer political observation, none of

1516
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: this makes any sense for them, And so I take

1517
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 3: a look at Shumer, and I take a look at

1518
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 3: a keem Jeffries and I asked the question ed Morrissey,

1519
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 3: when do the Democrats get rid of these lose who

1520
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: are not wartime consigliaris. They are not Nancy Pelosi and

1521
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: Harry Reid. These guys can't fight, they don't know how

1522
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 3: to fight, and they're going to need some new leadership

1523
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 3: if they're going to at least try.

1524
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 16: Well.

1525
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 15: I think raw Emmanuel would probably be one of the

1526
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 15: good one of the guys to turn to. And I'm

1527
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 15: not necessarily a big Emmanual fan, but he's smart and

1528
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 15: he's practical, two things that Democrats really aren't at the moment.

1529
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 15: They're not They're neither smart nor practical. They're obsessed with

1530
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 15: Trump and it has led them down this primrose path

1531
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 15: to just absolute delusion. The big thing today is CNN

1532
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 15: is talking about the Democrats are worried that Trump is

1533
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 15: going to cancel the election. Why, no reason. In part

1534
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 15: it's because he sent the National Guard into Washington, DC

1535
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 15: and has nothing to do with elections.

1536
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 16: Right.

1537
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 15: If Trump was going to cancel the election, it would

1538
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 15: have been in twenty twenty when you had riots in

1539
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 15: the streets.

1540
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 3: You know that this is all that stuff. This is

1541
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 3: not a small talking point. This has been Oh he

1542
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 3: Trump's got another reason for this. Trump's got other visions

1543
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: in mind. Trump does want to take control of the

1544
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 3: twenty sixth election. He doesn't want you to be able

1545
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 3: to vote. You've got I believe it's Gavin Newsom saying it.

1546
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 3: You had Lori Lightfoot, the former mayor of Chicago saying it.

1547
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 3: This is their new talking point. And so to your point,

1548
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 3: you're right, they have nothing else except hate Trump and

1549
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 3: Rob Manual is an interesting choice and a pick, but

1550
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 3: they need new leadership because they have none. Ed Morrissey,

1551
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 3: hotair dot Com. I appreciate you taking the time to

1552
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 3: be with us more to get to I'm Tony Katz.

1553
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today.

1554
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 3: No one cares that you've got all these roadblocks to

1555
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 3: giving us the Epstein files. Just give us the Epstein

1556
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: files and stop telling us about how you're going to

1557
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 3: work to get us the Epstein files, and get us

1558
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 3: the Epstein files. All we want to know is who

1559
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 3: was on the island with Jeffrey Epstein and whether or

1560
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 3: not we should be filing charges against them for.

1561
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 2: Engaging in any type of listed activity with children.

1562
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: If we're not a society that's gonna protect children, we're

1563
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: not a society at all.

1564
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 2: That's it.

1565
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

1566
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: And I said it then and I'll say it now.

1567
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 3: The people who said, well, President Trump said it doesn't matter,

1568
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 3: So why are you paying attention to it? It's just

1569
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: the left wine to talk about it. Why are you

1570
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 3: talking about it? Those people were wrong, very wrong. And

1571
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I know they were on the political right and their

1572
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 3: influencers and this and that. You can either be honest

1573
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 3: or you can be Trump's favorite. That's all there is

1574
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 3: to it. I think I can be respectful President Trump

1575
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 3: and admit when he makes a mistake not wanting to

1576
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 3: release the Epstein stuff, trying to say it doesn't matter,

1577
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 3: that was a mistake. Ed Morrissey joins me right now

1578
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 3: of hotair dot com, where he is the Kapo ditwoty

1579
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 3: coppo over there. You have got the story. If an

1580
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 3: Epstein file drops in a media forest doesn't make a sound,

1581
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 3: we have got the house now under James Comer saying

1582
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: that they are finally, at long last, going to make

1583
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 3: the Epstein files public.

1584
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: This is this is the plan there?

1585
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,839
Speaker 3: It is right there, Hou's plans to make Epstein files public.

1586
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: Is this.

1587
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Is this exactly what should be happening, or is this,

1588
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 3: in your view, much ado about nothing both.

1589
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 15: I mean, honestly, the problem here is that some of

1590
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 15: this stuff is just not going to be releasable, right,

1591
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 15: I mean, some of this stuff is wrapped up in

1592
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 15: evidence that contains images of you know, underage sexual activity,

1593
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 15: which is never going to be released. To the extent

1594
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 15: that you have an investigation that produces information on people

1595
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 15: who aren't going to be charged for whatever reason, it's

1596
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 15: inappropriate to release that information because if you're going to

1597
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 15: if you're going to release that information, it should come

1598
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 15: in the form of an indictment, at least if you're

1599
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 15: law enforcement. Now Congress has somewhat different rules, but it

1600
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 15: still has the same impact. So if we want to

1601
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 15: have these things fully out in the open, we're going

1602
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 15: to have to admit to ourselves that basically what we're

1603
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 15: doing is exposing a lot of things that may not

1604
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 15: be corroborated, that may not actually be evidence, that could

1605
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 15: be hearsay, that could do a lot of damage to

1606
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 15: people who may or may not deserve it right. This

1607
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 15: is the reason why grand jury transcripts are kept sealed,

1608
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 15: and we already have two federal judges reminding the Department

1609
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 15: of Justice of that fact. The Department of Justice went

1610
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 15: to the two federal judges controlling the grand jury transcripts

1611
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 15: of both grand jury investigations of Epstein and asked to

1612
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 15: have them released, and both judges said no for two reasons.

1613
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 15: One is that Galaine Maxwell still has an appeal before

1614
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 15: the Supreme Court. There is at least a possibility that

1615
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 15: the Supreme Court could order a new trial for her. Now,

1616
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 15: I think it's unlike because I think that the conviction

1617
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 15: was solid. I don't think they're going to do that.

1618
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 15: But until the Supreme Court actually decides that the grand

1619
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 15: jury testimony really can't be released to the public because

1620
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 15: it be prejudicial, you basically wouldn't be able to retry

1621
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 15: her at all. And there's questions already whether or not

1622
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 15: she was able to get a fair trial in the

1623
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 15: first place because of all of the publicity that was

1624
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 15: going on for her trial. And I don't think the

1625
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 15: Supreme Court is going to overturn it on those grounds.

1626
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 15: But if you're releasing the grand jury testimony ahead of

1627
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 15: another trial. Yeah, I think you're going to have a

1628
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 15: real problem with that when it gets into the Pelots thing.

1629
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 15: But the second reason is that judges don't release grand

1630
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 15: jury testimony for the reason that a lot of that

1631
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 15: testimony is not corroborated. A lot of it turns out

1632
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 15: to be here sand rumors, which is acceptable at a

1633
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 15: grand jury process, but not in a trial. So I

1634
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 15: don't release that information could do a lot of damage.

1635
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that you're wrong that a release of

1636
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 3: information could do some damage. But let me go the

1637
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 3: other way with why I am someone who says you

1638
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 3: have to release everything that you can. This right here

1639
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 3: is the New York Post new video showing missing minute

1640
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 3: from Jeffrey Epstein's sell his jail cell on his last

1641
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 3: night contradicts the DJ's explanation.

1642
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: So this is about the idea that.

1643
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 3: The Department of Justice showed us this video of his cell.

1644
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 3: See nothing happened, No went in Nona. He took his

1645
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 3: own life. And then people who are they have much

1646
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 3: more free time than you and me, Ed Marcy.

1647
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:37,719
Speaker 15: They indeed, oh my god, those loose clues.

1648
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 3: These people read, their hardy boys and their Nancy Drew.

1649
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 3: These people are steep Yclopedia Brown, Encyclopedia Brown, and smart

1650
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 3: Susie Sunset.

1651
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: My friend, they are all over by the way, how

1652
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 2: old are we?

1653
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Encyclopedia Borrow and Smart Susie Sunset on the case, they've

1654
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 3: been doing this going over and they're like, wait, there's

1655
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 3: a minute missing here, there's a minute there. And then

1656
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 3: Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, said well, that's because the

1657
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 3: tape recycles and so it stops a minute before. But

1658
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 3: they found the minute in this release of over thirty

1659
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 3: three thousand things from James Comer and House Oversight. Every

1660
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: single time they say well this is this, people who

1661
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 3: are just average Americans are able to do the sleut

1662
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: thing to say, well, wait, this isn't right. And when

1663
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: that happens, it is obvious that people are not sharing

1664
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 3: a full story in its entirety to the extent possible,

1665
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 3: and that to me signals that they have to release everything.

1666
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 3: They're the ones holding back. Pam Bondi did this to herself.

1667
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 3: President Trump did this to her himself, and it drives

1668
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 3: me nuts. But they did it, and I'm not on

1669
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 3: the side of them being able to say you don't

1670
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 3: get to see it.

1671
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 15: I agree, I agree with I agree with part about

1672
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 15: Pambondi and Donald Trump. Right, they opened this Pandora's box

1673
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 15: all over again. They didn't need to do that. It

1674
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 15: was stupid. However, I think the part that you're talking

1675
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 15: about was from the DOJ during the Bill Barr era.

1676
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 15: They were just reviewing the evidence at that the Department

1677
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 15: of Justice had from that period. Don't forget that Bill

1678
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 15: Barr did a complete investigation of the Epstein death and

1679
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 15: concluded that it was suicide. And I suspect that that's

1680
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 15: exactly where that evidence came from. And if there's a

1681
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 15: missing minute in there, I suspect that that's where the

1682
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 15: missing minute took place, not in the last few months,

1683
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 15: because Bill Barr, again they did a complete investment. It

1684
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 15: supposedly did a complete investigation. Bill Barr came out and

1685
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 15: said he committed suicide. That's that's the end of the story.

1686
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 15: So the missing minute thing probably goes back a few years.

1687
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 15: It probably goes back to the time that Epstein died.

1688
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 15: And whether or not the DJ actually caught that or

1689
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 15: knew about it. There's all sorts of reasons to do

1690
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 15: to look at the investigation. What I'm saying, though, is

1691
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 15: that what that's not what people are looking for. They're

1692
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 15: not looking to hold Bill Barr accountable or Merrick Garland accountable.

1693
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 15: They want to drag a bunch of you are. But

1694
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 15: what politically speaking, what people want to do is they

1695
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 15: want to find politicians whose names were in there so

1696
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 15: that they could so that they can conduct a SMAAR

1697
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 15: campaign against them. For people like Alan Dershowitz, whose name

1698
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 15: does appear in those records but didn't do anything. And

1699
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 15: Alan Dershowitz, it took him months to finally get Virginia

1700
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 15: Giuffrey to admit that her recollection wasn't very good on

1701
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 15: this point, and he's the one who's in fairness. Dershowitz

1702
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 15: is saying, well, we need to release all of it

1703
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 15: so that people can understand the context in which people's

1704
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 15: names appear in this. But I don't necessarily know that

1705
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 15: the victims, in all of the victims at least want

1706
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 15: that accountability either. For the most part, they are anonymous

1707
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 15: right now, me Thomas Massey, and it's going to drag

1708
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 15: a few of them up to the DAIS, and if

1709
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 15: they want to come forward, that's fine, But They're not

1710
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 15: the only people who might be impacted by this.

1711
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 2: Hold on that thing. I'm going to stop.

1712
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 3: It is a cluster. You're talking about Thomas Massey and

1713
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 3: Rokahanna who want to do this. Talked into Romar of

1714
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 3: hot air dot com. Ed Marcy joined his Rokahanna part

1715
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 3: of the Progressive Caucus, Thomas Massey the sole member of

1716
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 3: the Libertarian caucus in the House.

1717
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 2: That's me saying that there.

1718
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Speaker 3: I assume, I'm I'm accurate, so understand Ed's point. Guys

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Speaker 3: that he is making a point that I agree with

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01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 3: and a point that drives me nuts. There are indeed

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Speaker 3: innocent people inside these files.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: That is just fact that they're mentioned doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: they did anything wrong. That they knew Jeffrey Epstein doesn't

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01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 3: mean they did anything wrong. That they had dinner with them.

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Speaker 3: There's a famous story about him getting out of jail

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Speaker 3: and he had dinner in New York and George Stephanopolis

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Speaker 3: is there at Chelsea Handler is there. There's a whole

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Speaker 3: host of celebrities there. It doesn't mean they were on

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Speaker 3: the island engage with young children. It's they may be awful,

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01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 3: but it doesn't mean that, but I'm telling you right now,

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Speaker 3: I absolutely hold Bill Barr responsible. Bill Barr should be

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Speaker 3: held responsible for the death of Jeffery Epstein. He knew

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal, he knew people would be going

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Speaker 3: after him, he knew people would be watching. And you

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01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 3: don't have twenty seven guards in the cell outside the cell.

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01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 3: That is a level of a lack of professionalism. That's

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Speaker 3: a level of I'm not sure exactly what the incompetence there.

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01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 3: You go that should be prosecutable in my view, and

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Speaker 3: I just want to make sure you understand where I

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01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 3: am coming from. But the point you make about people

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Speaker 3: in these files, they're not guilty, they didn't do anything wrong,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be used against him. That is

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Speaker 3: a very very good point, and it is one that

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01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 3: is not one I hit on often. But I do

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Speaker 3: agree with that that is a problem. I do not

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Speaker 3: know if that is enough to say we don't know

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Speaker 3: what happened. I still argue that the files, to the

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Speaker 3: extent all of them can be released.

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Speaker 2: They should be released.

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Speaker 15: So the problem with that is this is that this

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Speaker 15: is not the way that the Department of Justice or

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01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 15: any prosecutor's office works when you do an investigation, especially

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01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 15: a federal in investigation, the Department of Justice doesn't release

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01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 15: information on people who's who are not going to be charged,

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01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 15: and there's a it's good reason for that. And the

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01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 15: reason why people are trying to force this out is

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01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 15: not because necessarily that they're seeking justice. It's because they're

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Speaker 15: looking both sides. Everybody, Republicans, Democrats, the few libertarians that

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01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 15: there are are looking for dirt on people on their

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01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 15: political opponents. And that's what this is. This whole thing

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01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 15: has become a grossly politicized issue. The Department of Justice

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01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 15: should have charged this guy right off the bat, what

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01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 15: was it, twenty eleven. Instead, they sort of let him

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Speaker 15: off the hook, gave him home detention, and that was

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Speaker 15: a deal that was cut. I can't remember the guy

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Speaker 15: who was the Trump Cabinet secretary in the first term,

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01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 15: but it was he was the guy that cut that

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Speaker 15: deal and ended up having to.

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Speaker 3: Resign when he came out. When his role in that.

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Speaker 15: Came out, they came back and prosecuted him again and

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01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 15: basically were able to create a case that didn't involve

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Speaker 15: some of the other people around them, because apparently they

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Speaker 15: couldn't prove that, and some of the people who would

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01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 15: have been charged were actually victims of Epstein's predatory behavior

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Speaker 15: in the first place. He groomed them, and he turned

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Speaker 15: them into recruiters, and so a number of the people

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01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 15: who would have been charged in extended prosecutions of this

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01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 15: would have been some of the girls that he initially

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01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 15: and Maxwell initially recruited. It's not easy to do this

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Speaker 15: type of thing.

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Speaker 3: And if you.

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Speaker 15: Don't have a case to resent before a grand jury,

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01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 15: or or if a grand jury simply won't indict, then

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01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 15: that information really shouldn't be released. Ethically speaking, that information

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01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 15: should remain sealed because it is because it does damage.

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Speaker 15: That's where you start running into people using the process

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01:43:55,280 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 15: to punish people rather than allowing them to allowing them

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Speaker 15: due process. There's no due process in that type of release.

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Speaker 15: There's no form in which so let's just say, you know,

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Speaker 15: John Appleseed, probably a bad choice of names, is named

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Speaker 15: in that is and is suggested that he committed uh,

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01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 15: you know, sex trafficking with minor girls in this, but

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01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 15: they don't have the evidence to bring him to trial. Well,

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01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 15: where does he go to challenge that evidence? There's no trial,

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01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 15: there's there's no, there's not even a hearing. They've just

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01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 15: simply released this allegation and provide him no form for

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01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 15: due process to test the government's case. And I think

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01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 15: it's more important to protect that due process than it

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Speaker 15: is to nail some some fringe characters who are associated

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Speaker 15: with this Epstein case, primarily because a lot of people

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01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,600
Speaker 15: want to make political targets.

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Speaker 3: Out of them.

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01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 15: Well, I want to make they should have been prosecuted

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01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 15: up front, if there was evidence for it, they should

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01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 15: have been prosecuted up front, And I want to make

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Speaker 15: my case, So that's.

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Speaker 3: Not the motivation. Just one more time. I think you're

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01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 3: argument is sound. I don't know if many people have

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01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 3: heard it, and it is certainly sound to say, we

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01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 3: don't tell people, well, you have to suffer at the

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01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 3: hands of a judicial system when you've done nothing wrong

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01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: and you have no recourse. Right, we don't.

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Speaker 2: That isn't who we are. We are not showing the man.

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01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 2: I'll show you the crime.

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Speaker 3: We are not. Well, that's your problem. They told us

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01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 3: there were things in here. We know there are things

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01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 3: in here. We know that children were abused, and I

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01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 3: have a very hard time with abusers being able to

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Speaker 3: walk free and I have a very hard time, as

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01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 3: many people do, with the idea of a two tiered

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01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 3: justice system that because you've got some more power, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: that somehow you get away with us. This simply doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: Edmarrisseyhotair dot com. I appreciate you being with us this

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01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 3: whole video, I should say, this whole interview. We've got

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01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 3: the video. It'll be up there on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 3: Just look for Tony Katz and of course Tony kats

1828
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 3: dot com were to get to you guys.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: So this morning I bought a bunch of people egg

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Speaker 3: mcmuffins from McDonald's. Tony Kats, Tony Kats Today, Good to

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01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 3: be with you. Find everything at Tony kats dot com.

1833
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 3: I bought the McDonald's. I do a morning show in Indianapolis,

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01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 3: and I've got a I've got a producer, and then

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01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 3: there's a I've got a morning anchor, and then there's

1836
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 3: a great guy in the traffic center and they're reporters.

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Speaker 3: And I sent over egg mcmuffins and hash browns. The

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01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 3: egg McMuffin is perfect food, perfect perfect food, and hash

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01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 3: browns are hashprunts.

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01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: Send them over eat enjoy.

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01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 3: It came up in a conversation, you know, the whole

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01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 3: thing about the extra value meals coming back, and so

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01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 3: I sent over the egg mcmuffins.

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01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 2: So they post a picture of it.

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01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 3: They say, hey, thanks, Tony, appreciate it, which, of course

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01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 3: happy happy to do it, to which one of my

1847
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 3: trolls decides that the response is proving yet again the

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01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 3: MAHA initiative is just for show.

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01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,440
Speaker 2: Make America healthy again? What's wrong with people.

1850
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 3: That allow me to try and say this in a

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01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 3: way that doesn't make me lose my mind? What is

1852
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: it like to be so completely dead inside? What in

1853
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 3: the world does an egg McMuffin have to do with

1854
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 3: make America Healthy again? Nothing? Are you telling me that

1855
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 3: in a world of Maha, you can't have an egg

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01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 3: McMuffin every now and again. I don't want to live

1857
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 3: in that world. I can't have a piece of cake.

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01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to live in that world either. The

1859
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 3: argument is, what are we putting into foods? How are

1860
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 3: the foods made? Are we aware of what we're doing

1861
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 3: to ourselves? Doesn't mean that every now and again you

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01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 3: can't have a freaking ash brown And if you want

1863
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 3: to live in a world without Hash Browns.

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01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 2: Knock yourself out.

1865
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 3: But if you think you're actually connecting with people when

1866
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 3: you make statements that crazy, dear Lord, the left really

1867
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 3: is lost. Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow everyone,

1868
01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 3: take care,