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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: The Smally scandal is bigger than we know, bigger than

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Speaker 2: we understand. That it doesn't matter how much people scream

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Speaker 2: and yell about it. We are going to be people

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Speaker 2: who should be discussing it, who are discussing it and should.

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Speaker 3: Be investigating it.

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Speaker 2: There's a problem here, and the problem might be whether

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Speaker 2: or not our immigration policies, our immigration thoughts, are based

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Speaker 2: on who is going to be a part of American society.

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Speaker 2: It is imperative in my view that we do not

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Speaker 2: take any group of people and label them as persona. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel that way about Somali's. I do feel

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Speaker 2: that way about Islamists. And if we are going to

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Speaker 2: say that somehow it is wrong to look at those

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Speaker 2: coming from Islamic countries differently, well no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's it's the only rational course of course. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you find everything

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Speaker 2: going on over at Tony Katz dot com. Appreciate it

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Speaker 2: if being head on over there, subscribe and be a

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Speaker 2: part of it. Let's start with the basics. What is

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Speaker 2: this entire scandal that is bigger than we know and

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Speaker 2: worse than we think. This has to do with theft,

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Speaker 2: just stealing by a group of people, either part of

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Speaker 2: that Somali community in Minneapolis, Somali themselves or others who

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Speaker 2: saw the COVID money coming in and said hey, I

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Speaker 2: got an idea. What they did was was they made

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Speaker 2: the claim that they were feeding children. There was a

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Speaker 2: group called Feeding our Future. There were a couple other groups.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna feed children? How many children are you feeding?

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Speaker 2: And will send you money to help you do that

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Speaker 2: because you know COVID has affected everybody. Well, lockdown's affected everybody,

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Speaker 2: and certainly Minnesota, a progressive state. Are not so progressive

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Speaker 2: when we talk about how you grow a state, but

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Speaker 2: progressive in their politics. They were engaged in real shutdowns.

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Speaker 2: How many people are you feeding? Feeding our future? Oh,

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Speaker 2: eighteen thousand? While you're feeding eighteen thousand children a month?

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Speaker 2: That's something no, no, no, a day a day. We met today.

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Speaker 2: You're feeding eighteen thousand children every day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are money. Please. It's like Jenny Slate, what

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Speaker 3: show is that from? I forget? It's not Parks of

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Speaker 3: our creation?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I forgot?

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Speaker 2: What money, please, it's so great, and Minnesota said, here

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Speaker 2: you go. And when Minnesota started getting an inkling, a whiff,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a hint, a little something, a

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Speaker 2: little Joe Biden kind of.

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Speaker 3: A smells like people. When that happened, the.

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Speaker 2: Good people there who were involved in this theft not

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Speaker 2: a grift theft, said, listen, very carefully, you approve these

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Speaker 2: groups for this funding or we're going to call you racists.

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Speaker 2: And the government folk in Minnesota so afraid of being

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Speaker 2: called racist, they went along with it. You understand that

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Speaker 2: this means that Governor Tim Walls went along with it.

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Speaker 2: You mean you have to understand that that there are

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Speaker 2: people associated with this, like the Attorney General of Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: Keith Elsen, like the Congresswoman Elano Mahr, who were in

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Speaker 2: so way connected. They certainly knew the groups. They were

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Speaker 2: there taking photos, at least Ihana mar was, so when

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Speaker 2: the investigation takes place, all of those players need to

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Speaker 2: be investigated. Stephen Miller called this the possibly the largest

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Speaker 2: fraud against Americans in.

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Speaker 3: History, which led to Ilhan.

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Speaker 2: Omar saying that you know, well that that's that's nice,

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Speaker 2: but you know, Stephen Miller, he's just a He's just

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Speaker 2: a white nationalist.

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Speaker 5: The architect of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller said

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Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving Day, he posted, no magic transformation occurs when

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Speaker 5: failed state's cross borders at scale, migrants and their descendants

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Speaker 5: recreate the conditions and terrors of the broken homelands. What

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Speaker 5: do you make of this argument of failure to assimilate

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Speaker 5: and sort of ruining America? How do you understand this?

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Speaker 6: Mean?

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Speaker 7: When I think about Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric,

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Speaker 7: it reminds me. Yes, it reminds me of the way

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Speaker 7: the Nazis described Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: At that moment, Margaret Brennan of CBS News, who hosts

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Speaker 2: Faced the Nation, should have ended the interview, said thank you, goodbye.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to get to call Stephen Miller a

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Speaker 2: white supremacist based on what based on what a recognition

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Speaker 2: that you're a bigot Ilanimore, you are Jews controlled Congress.

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Speaker 2: It's all about the Benjamins. That was you, right, that.

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Speaker 3: Was you who did those things?

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Speaker 2: Now do people come to the United States and recreate.

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Speaker 3: The horrors they came from?

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Speaker 2: So I want to say for the record that I

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Speaker 2: don't actually believe that part true.

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Speaker 3: Here is one thing that I do believe if we

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Speaker 3: look at it honestly, if.

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Speaker 2: There is not a buy in to how we do things, well,

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Speaker 2: what does one expect You're.

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Speaker 3: Going to go with what you know?

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Speaker 2: That that's a very rational point of view, which of

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Speaker 2: course brings us to what it is that we expect

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Speaker 2: when people are a part of the nation.

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Speaker 3: I had shared.

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Speaker 2: A part of this last week, and I had created

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Speaker 2: a short out of a you follow us on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz It's gone, It's done,

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Speaker 2: all sorts of views about the idea of assimilation.

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Speaker 3: And you would have.

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Speaker 2: Thought that I had engaged in the most barbaric talk

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Speaker 2: the world had ever seen, which is not.

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Speaker 3: The case at all.

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Speaker 2: I was discussing the idea of hyphenization, and I was

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Speaker 2: discussing the idea of assimilation.

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Speaker 3: This is what I said last week.

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Speaker 2: If we are to agree that that is true, that

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Speaker 2: the American left has no belief in assimilation, and we

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Speaker 2: can see this in a myriad of ways.

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Speaker 3: For example, the hyphenization of America.

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Speaker 2: What the bloody heck is African American, Mexican, American, Columbian, American, Irish, American.

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Speaker 3: There's American, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: The hyphen is an absolute prob because it creates separation

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Speaker 2: as opposed to assimilation.

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Speaker 3: I believe that that is an accurate statement.

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Speaker 2: The hyphen creates separation, not assimilation.

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Speaker 3: And I had put this out in a.

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Speaker 2: Post where I said, you can't have assimilation to American

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Speaker 2: culture if everyone wants to talk about only where they

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Speaker 2: are from, to which I had some people who I

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Speaker 2: think aren't thinking clearly, well, what's American culture? And then

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Speaker 2: someone said, well, Tony doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day?

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Speaker 3: Who doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day?

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Speaker 2: Admittedly I don't want green beer, but I love corn,

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Speaker 2: beef and cabbage.

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Speaker 3: These things are delightful.

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Speaker 2: very good time. What kind of fool would say such

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Speaker 2: a thing Tony doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day. I never

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Speaker 2: said anything like that. I did say that hyphens are

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Speaker 2: I could add Jewish American, I can add Mexican American.

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Speaker 3: All these things keep us from being American.

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Speaker 2: American involves where you can from and a recognition that.

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Speaker 3: Where you are.

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Speaker 2: This idea, this ideal is better. This place that we

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Speaker 2: have created is indeed better. I think that's when we

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Speaker 2: talk about assimilation. It isn't about forgetting where you came from.

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Speaker 2: It's a recognition of where you're at and how fortunate

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Speaker 3: Let's at least be clear it's better here. If it

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Speaker 3: was really better there, you would have stayed there.

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Speaker 2: So when we see people coming to the United States

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Speaker 2: who don't think that this is better, they think this

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Speaker 2: is bad. They think this place owes them, and they

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Speaker 2: are proactive in wanting its destruction. I think those are

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Speaker 2: and we should oblige them. I'm saying that they don't

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Speaker 2: pass the test. You're like, oh, woh, woh, whah whah,

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Speaker 2: what tests to be an American?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: What test to be an American? Do you believe in

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Speaker 2: the destruction of the Uni Nited States? How would it

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Speaker 2: be possible for us to take in anybody who believes

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Speaker 2: is that I'm not interested in labeling a whole group

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Speaker 3: Of this world in Minneapolis who haven't done anything wrong,

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Speaker 3: and so.

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Speaker 2: I do have an objection to how President Trump has

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Speaker 3: What I have noticed.

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Speaker 2: Is that when we see a specific level of issue

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Speaker 2: the American fabric, that while we've seen it in groups

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Speaker 2: from South America and Central America because of their progressive

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Speaker 2: hatred of Western culture, of their Western civilization, their their

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Speaker 2: hatred that permeates. We see this from his life onic societies.

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Speaker 2: The Islamist is not compatible with Western civilization.

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Speaker 3: They're just not.

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Speaker 2: They're not compatible with anything in Europe. They're not compatible

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Speaker 2: with other Muslims.

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 2: We need to be honest about this and clear about this,

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Speaker 2: and maybe there should be some reticence regarding those nations

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Speaker 3: Well, Tony, you see, now you're painting everybody.

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Speaker 2: With a broad brush because of their culture, their religion. No,

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Speaker 2: and that's where the first part of this conversation is

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Speaker 2: not talking about a religion. We're talking about a political system,

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Speaker 2: and it is incompatible.

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Speaker 3: With ours, and we have every right to say the

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Speaker 2: And I only have to look back to the Barbary

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Speaker 3: That is about who we take into the nation.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there is a moment proven that our kindness cannot

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Speaker 3: That's a hard thing to say, and I won't lie.

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Speaker 2: I feel weird saying it because what's the difference between

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Speaker 3: Well, really, the people we can't allow to.

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Speaker 2: The country are Jews. I mean, what is the line there?

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Speaker 2: What is the separation point in that? I got asked today.

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Speaker 2: I did a radio interview with someone and they were

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Speaker 2: discussing how they what they hear from young people zoomers,

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Speaker 2: term zoomer gen Z?

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Speaker 3: What we hear.

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Speaker 2: From gen Z is number one, fix the economy and

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Speaker 2: number two stop talking about Israel.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Tony?

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, first yeah, things need to be cheaper,

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Speaker 2: and secondly, I'm a Zionist.

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Speaker 3: Also, Israel all I want and I'll debate with anybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't actually care, but if somebody is more interested

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Speaker 2: in how what it's going to cost them for a

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Speaker 2: gallon of gas as opposed to is rally foreign policy.

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Speaker 3: I get that. I get that. That makes perfect sense

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: I have to stop talking about what's happening from Islamists

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Speaker 2: against a society that allows people to allows people to

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Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. I think that we

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Speaker 2: have to accept the fact that the conversation we're having

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Speaker 2: is super heavy. That the people involved in the criminal

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Speaker 2: activity in Minneapolis, Man, they have to go to jail,

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Speaker 2: No mention of Troup, no mention of Stephen Miller. Do

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Speaker 2: But when the nation is primarily Islamic, maybe we have

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Speaker 3: Whether it's in Europe, is in and that's rough.

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Speaker 2: The investigations have to happen, and anybody involved can't win reelection.

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Speaker 2: We are not so far removed from the horror show

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Speaker 2: Honduras in the US illegally twice removed from the country. Now,

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Speaker 3: We just take it.

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Speaker 2: We defy them, we say, we bet you your military

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Speaker 2: That's the price for allowing something like that to traverse

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Speaker 2: They said, you know, people warned Biden that his soft

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Speaker 3: New York Times.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully this man will be okay, and this is a

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Kams.

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Speaker 8: For had me On. I think, frankly, what we're hearing

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Speaker 8: the Secretary of War Crimes as I've been calling him

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Speaker 8: after these strikes and the revelations of this double tap

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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's stop listening to Alexander Vinman. So he's

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Speaker 3: That's that is hilarious.

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Speaker 2: You're the same guy who was upset with a phone

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Speaker 2: this that I'm now hearing about Ukraine that Zelenski has

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Speaker 3: I don't know how it's possible.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, here, Oh gosh, I do have it. Hold

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Speaker 3: on a second, hold on. I say he was at the Kennedy.

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Speaker 2: Center Honors, which, by the way, they've redone the Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 2: Trump did that as well. They were able to rework it.

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Speaker 2: They've redone. The money, They've got everybody showing up.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's happy. I mean, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone and it's kiss and it's at Oh sorry, left.

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Speaker 3: I know it upset you all right. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm outrageously.

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Speaker 2: Thrilled with this, because if this allows the right to

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Speaker 2: understand what culture is and how you connect with it

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Speaker 2: and how you have to be a participant in the

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Speaker 2: arts and not hate everything. Good A plus. But this

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Speaker 2: Lady Milania Trump talking about Zelensky and the peace deal.

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Speaker 1: And very powerful, Your president, what's the next week?

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Speaker 5: What's your next step in Russia Ukraine talks after last

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Speaker 9: So we've been speaking to President Putin and we have

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Speaker 3: What the hell?

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Speaker 2: Am I the only person who heard that and said,

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Speaker 2: how is that even possible? He hasn't ready did he

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Speaker 2: skim it? Are you telling me the guy hasn't gone

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Speaker 2: guess I'll read this peace proposal that keeps my people alive?

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Speaker 3: How is that possible? His people love.

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Speaker 9: It, but he has Russia's fine with it, Russia's you know, Russia, Russia,

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Speaker 9: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Would rather have the whole country when you think of it.

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Speaker 9: But Russia is I believe, fine with it. But I'm

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Speaker 9: not sure that Zelinski is fine with it. His people

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Speaker 9: love it, but he hasn't read it. So someday you'll

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Speaker 9: explain that one to me, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: I'm not Jeff, but I can't explain it. At all.

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Speaker 3: There was a follow up to this story.

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Speaker 2: If someone I wasn't able to find it's ef you

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Speaker 2: can look for producer landon about what it is Thatians

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Speaker 2: and look for that. I've gone over this many times.

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Speaker 2: I have supported from the beginning sending weapons and sending

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Speaker 2: bullets to Ukraine. I do not believe your reward Russian aggression,

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Speaker 2: by that I do not support any troops on the grounds.

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Speaker 3: I stand by.

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Speaker 2: That I support if NATO nations want to be buying

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Speaker 3: Fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Russia is the aggressor, Russia is the bad guy, and

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Speaker 2: every other story is wrong.

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Speaker 3: It's garbage. It was always garbage. Tucker's garbage was garbage.

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Speaker 3: The rest of it was nonsense. Bull Crab said that Zelenski's.

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Speaker 2: An angel and all the Ukrainian leadership come from on high.

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Speaker 2: Never once, never, ever, I said on this show, I

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Speaker 2: Let the Ukrainians fight for their survival, and let us

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Speaker 3: You can absolutely get me to say, all right, we've

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Speaker 2: The problem is gonna be well Tony, a lot of

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Speaker 3: We did buy another bullet, or we did help some kid.

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Speaker 2: So therefore I have to continue to be the good guy,

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Speaker 2: to a story about a month ago at Politico, Ukrainian

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Speaker 2: and its totality their producer land. Now, but there's an example.

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Speaker 3: I'm not wrong when I say this is the thing

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Speaker 2: We have to live by a standard that nobody else

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Speaker 3: And when they flaunt.

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Speaker 3: No one goes to jail. We just have to keep spending.

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Speaker 3: That's an exhausting proposition I put forth to you.

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Speaker 2: That is also where people get the very rational understanding

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Speaker 2: they're less then, and we're told that's awful and horrible

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Speaker 2: and terrible. You are fighting for your survival we're helping

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Speaker 3: Ukrainians.

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Speaker 2: The Somalian situation in Minneapolis, it's the same level of

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Speaker 2: giving up all the lands and in the dunbast to

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Speaker 2: Neet's Garia La hans Kosha, Porzia, et cetera, all the

445
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Speaker 2: way down to Crimea. I don't know if he's really

446
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: angry at the Russians. What are you doing with all

447
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: this killing your your own people are dying? Are you

448
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: really this blanking stupid? Because I mean that, of course,

449
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: as we've discussed, is Trump's philosophy ten thousand percent. The

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Speaker 2: war doesn't make any sense to him. Why in the

451
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Speaker 2: world would you have a war and kill each other

452
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Speaker 2: when you can make some money and enjoy yourself. The

453
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: whole thing is such anathema to him. But remember, Trump

454
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Speaker 2: has no It's one of the ways I know that

455
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: Trump is not only not a warmonger. Trump doesn't have

456
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Speaker 2: any desire for empire. It's not necessary. We have what

457
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: we have, and we make money at what we have.

458
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: Now we can make more money by getting Greenland. Well,

459
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Speaker 2: let's work out a grill for Greenland. Let's work out

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Speaker 2: a deal. Not hey, let's send our warships not to

461
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: the Caribbean to deal with Venezuela, but let's send it

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Speaker 2: to Greenland.

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Speaker 3: Let the Russian see what they're gonna do. By the

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Speaker 3: way to.

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Speaker 2: Denmark, this is our ours. Now that didn't happen. What

466
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Speaker 2: deal could be made?

467
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: Why?

468
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Because it better protects America that I understand about the

469
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Speaker 2: guy wars just it. It strikes him as the most

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Speaker 2: peculiar thing because he doesn't really have any Would it

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Speaker 2: be weird if I said I don't think he has

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Speaker 2: any tribalism about him. America first might be as much

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Speaker 2: as he goes, but it doesn't involve any level of

474
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Speaker 2: conquest it should be. It should be much more about

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Speaker 2: trade and deals and you know, fair.

476
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: And being able to use his leverage to get fair, etc.

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Speaker 2: What moment does he say, you know what I tried

478
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Speaker 2: with you people, This is on you.

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Speaker 3: We're out.

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Speaker 2: If NATO wants to keep buying and your bonds, keep

481
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Speaker 2: buying our hardware, we'll keep selling it to him. We're

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Speaker 2: making great money. We're done here, America. I've done everything

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Speaker 2: I can. These two schmucks they don't want peace. This

484
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: guy won't stop fighting. This guy hasn't even read a

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Speaker 2: piece deal.

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Speaker 3: I'm out best of luck.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad, bad place. But you know you could

488
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Speaker 2: see him going there, right, you can see him doing it.

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Speaker 2: I gave it everything I can. Yeah, you could argue

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Speaker 2: it the other way. Tony's ego requires him to get this.

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Speaker 3: Done, so he could say he can get it done.

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Speaker 2: Remember, there are the two rules of trump Ism coined

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Speaker 2: right here by yours truly. The first rule of trump

494
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: Ism is that Trump wins. The second rule of trump

495
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Speaker 2: Ism is that a deal can always be made as

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Speaker 2: long as it Here is to the first rule of

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Speaker 2: trump Ism.

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Speaker 3: So we're not done with this yet. But Zelenski hasn't

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Speaker 3: read it. I mean, that's just that might be the

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Speaker 3: craziest thing I've ever heard.

501
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: And I've heard Sonny Hosten speak twice.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today, So this is not the

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00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: first time I've seen this story, and it's something I

505
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: think you should.

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Speaker 3: Keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: There is a report I shouldn't say. I'll call it reporting,

508
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: not a report that we are about to see from

509
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Speaker 2: the House Republicans, a whole bunch of retirements.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: Great to be here, Good to be with You find

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Speaker 2: everything on Tony kats dot com. We touched on this

513
00:31:52,960 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: lightly last week where the morale amongst how Republicans not

514
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: great because Trump doesn't help them. Trump's in the Trump business. Oh,

515
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: I think we're going to find that Trump is not

516
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: going you know, we are in a place where we

517
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: could find that Trump is going to leave the RNC

518
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: in the same shape that Obama left the DNC. And

519
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: that's not good shape. That is not good shape. Who's

520
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: going to have the lists, who's going to have the power?

521
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Everything else? It is clear to me that Trump is

522
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: interested in a level of dynasty for the kids, etc.

523
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: I knew this was coming from word go, I gotta

524
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Speaker 2: deal with things as I deal with them.

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Speaker 3: Obama did it.

526
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Speaker 2: Obama tried to shape the Democratic Party in his image.

527
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: He ruined them financially, then never left and then what

528
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: cost them the White House.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, him and Nancy Pelosi.

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Speaker 2: You'll notice that there hasn't been much ceremony as of

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Speaker 2: yet for Pelosi leaving. Oh, they'll do a dog and

532
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: pony and that'll be yet and they'll be glad she's gone.

533
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Speaker 2: But Republicans, according to multiple sources, are not pleased. They

534
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: are not happy with the amount of backup they're getting

535
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Speaker 2: in other things. Is it possible that there are twenty

536
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Republicans saying I don't need this anymore. There's a private

537
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: sector job for four hundred and twenty thousand a year

538
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Speaker 2: coming my way. Sounds good. Okay, you know what, It's

539
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: time for me to go write my book twenty How

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Speaker 2: does that play out for a midterm? My gut reaction

541
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Speaker 2: not well, there is a fair amount working against the

542
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Speaker 2: Republicans going into these midterms. And more than anything, Trump

543
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: needs an economic turnaround for this to get better. He

544
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: needs inflation down, He needs dollars flowing in. He needs

545
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: the price of milk and.

546
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Meat to go down. He needs to see.

547
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Speaker 2: Some level of insurance betterment in pricing. All I know

548
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: is my main radio employer. That's where I get my

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00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: insurance through. And it's open enrollment. And there was an

550
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: email today that basically said, hey, everybody we know that

551
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: you're quite literally having heart attacks over the new premiums.

552
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: But life sucks, and it wasn't that mean, But it's

553
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: exactly what they were saying. It's brutal, it's brutalizing. This

554
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: is what Americans are dealing with higher costs in everything now.

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00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: The truth is it's not everything, but it's still enough

556
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Speaker 2: things to make people say the costs.

557
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Speaker 3: Are too high.

558
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: And so that is job one in trying to win reelection,

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Speaker 2: keep the Republicans in the House and the Senate for

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Speaker 2: the midterms.

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Speaker 3: The retirements, if they come.

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Speaker 2: Just make it all that more difficult. But I think

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Speaker 2: the question is why the retirements. It's a worthy conversation,

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Speaker 2: and I question how much of it has to do

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Speaker 2: with Trump or something else.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Why from Vaal Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So they argue against redistricting in Indiana by having the

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Speaker 2: oldest white women possible to come and start screaming, it's

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Speaker 2: got work. The answer, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. Great

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: to be here, great to be with. You find everything

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00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: over at Tony kats dot com. This is my state.

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Speaker 2: It's happening not too far from where I'm at. This

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Speaker 2: redistricting conversation needs to get through the committee today, and

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Speaker 2: if it does, then it will get to the full

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Speaker 2: Senate's already passed the House. This is about taking the districts.

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Speaker 2: Here there are nine congressional districts, seven of them Republican,

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Speaker 2: two Democrats, and redrawing the lines, and so it would

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Speaker 2: obstensibly be nine Republicans, no Democrats. You know, like Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: and people are allegedly up in arms.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they are as up in arms as

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Speaker 3: other people do. Well.

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Speaker 2: The state polling shows that no one's interested in redistricting.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people have explained the conversation properly. Redistricting

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Speaker 2: can be talked about in a couple of different ways.

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Speaker 3: First, I wasn't interested in it when Texas did it.

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Speaker 2: Texas wants to redistrict, and I said, oh, okay. Redistricting

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Speaker 2: is the redrawing of congressional lines, which happens in state legislatures,

590
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Speaker 2: and that was totally fine by me. It's a lawful process.

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Mid decade is far more uncommon than it happening at

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Speaker 2: the start of the decade. Remember the census via the constitution.

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Speaker 2: That is a dictate you will do a census every

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Speaker 2: ten years. Redistricting, there's nothing about that. You can redistrict

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Speaker 2: every hour if you wanted to. There's no rules about that,

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Speaker 2: unless the state happens to have particular rules. That's up

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Speaker 2: to the legislatures to do they decide. I oppose the

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Speaker 2: idea of independent commissions. You hear a lot about this

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Speaker 2: as an independent commission that helps with the redistrict That's

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Speaker 2: not what independent commissions do. An independent commission is a

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Speaker 2: way of keeping the people away from being able to

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Speaker 2: engage our legislators about redistricting.

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Speaker 3: They've already gerrymandered.

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Speaker 2: The bloody heck out of the place, and now they

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Speaker 2: put in the independent commission to keep things where they

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Speaker 2: are and keep the power structures where they are. And

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00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: if the power structures were to change, well, they would

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Speaker 2: quickly get rid of that independent commission and they'd change

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Speaker 2: it again, because redistricting is a political conversation. You can't

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Speaker 2: change the lines. That's not fair. What the hell does

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Speaker 2: fairness have to do with a political conversation. Honestly, there

612
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: are so many children running around having this conversation about fairness.

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: Silly little children, and I'm talking about those women and

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00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: those elderly right now at the Indiana State Capitol screaming

615
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: about fairness. You look ridiculous. No wait, you are ridiculous.

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00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: And if you say to me, how dare you? I'm

617
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Speaker 2: the one stating that there's nothing illegal about this and

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00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: fairness to doesn't come into play. Why don't you try

619
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Speaker 2: an argument that matters? Why don't you try an argument

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00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: that at the very least is legitimate, Because those arguments

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Speaker 2: are illegitimate. Those arguments are emotional problem and I will

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Speaker 2: not fall for that, just like I do not fall

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Speaker 2: for a child's tantrum.

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Speaker 3: I'm a grown up.

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00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Why not you try talking to me like a grownup?

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00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: Why can't we engage this like grownups? The signs read

627
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Speaker 2: hoosiers play fair, maga no means no, dear Lord, and

628
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: then no midterm redistricts, keep maps sensible.

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Speaker 3: And they spelled it wrong on purpose. It was very odd.

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Speaker 2: And finally, no taxation without representation okay nothing, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: Nothing about the current.

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Speaker 3: Me in Indiana or any other state is fair. Absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: It was drawn at the pleasure of the party in power,

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00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: and that's that you still have representation. You are not

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Speaker 2: disenfranchised if a district changes shape, You're not.

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Speaker 3: It's a lie.

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00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 2: And we should tell everybody out there right now protesting

638
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Speaker 2: that they're saying that you're going to lose representation.

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00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: That's a lie and you're a liar. I do not.

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Speaker 2: Care how old or young, male or female, rich or poor,

641
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you say that people are going

642
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: to lose their representation, that's a lie. If we're not

643
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: gonna be honest about these things, we're not gonna get

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Speaker 2: anything done. Why do I favor redistricting. Let's talk about

645
00:40:52,840 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: a philosophy. I favor redistricting because the Democratic part will

646
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: look at the fraud, waste, and abuse to the tune

647
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: of possibly billions in Minneapolis, and they'll say, well, we

648
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: can't do anything about this. That would be racist against

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00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: people who are Somali, even though it wasn't just people

650
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: who are Simonian who are involved in this.

651
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Speaker 3: That's a reason to redistrict because any party that.

652
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Speaker 2: Things like that can't be allowed to be in charge

653
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Speaker 2: of my country.

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Speaker 3: Any party that.

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Speaker 2: Things it's okay to shut down the government so they

656
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: can get subsidies to pay for Obamacare, which was a

657
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: lie told to the American people by the Democratic Party.

658
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: So people who are told that they pay less for

659
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: health inchurts are now paying more for health insurance, can

660
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: pay even less for health insurance while the American people

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Speaker 2: pay more.

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Speaker 3: Overall, you can't be in charge.

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Speaker 2: Of a country because the Democratic Party thinks that it's

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Speaker 2: okay to tell a little bit. They can be girls,

665
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Speaker 2: and it's okay to mutilate yourself via chemicals and surgery.

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Speaker 2: You're not allowed to run a country. Let me say

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Speaker 2: it better in a way that's maybe more understandable, in

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Speaker 2: the words of Barack Obama.

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Speaker 3: We won.

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Speaker 2: And redissecting is a lawful process. So what's the problem.

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Speaker 2: You have proven yourself outrageously unworthy and a danger. You're

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Speaker 2: a danger to children, You're a danger to adults, You're

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Speaker 2: a danger to Western civilization.

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Speaker 3: Now you want.

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Speaker 6: To debate me on this, cordhead, you would debate me

676
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Speaker 6: on the topic that I have just discussed, which makes

677
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Speaker 6: no bones about the fact that.

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Speaker 2: This is ten thousand percent about power. I'm the only

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Speaker 2: person being honest about it in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else is just a blabbering freak show. It's about

681
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Speaker 2: power and Republicans have it and Democrats don't. And if

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Speaker 2: Democrats had it, I don't have to guess. I've already

683
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Speaker 2: seen what they do.

684
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Speaker 3: I have seen it. I have witnessed it.

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Speaker 2: I quoted the guy who laid out the blueprint about it,

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama. We won, well, he said it as I won,

687
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Speaker 2: and therefore he could do what he wanted. No one's

688
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: breaking the law. If you say someone's breaking the law,

689
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Speaker 2: it's a lie. We should call you a liar, we

690
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Speaker 2: should laugh at you, and we should move on with

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Speaker 2: our day.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you want to argue my points, and you said,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, or as I said, if you want to

695
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Speaker 2: argue them, that's fine, go about arguing my points and

696
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Speaker 2: we can discuss this. But the idea of it's not fair,

697
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Speaker 2: the idea that it's cheating, the idea nobody wants is

698
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: all trash. They're ridiculous, garbage, foolish, ignorant, and altogether dumb arguments.

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Speaker 2: And of course I think that because there are emotional arguments,

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Speaker 2: and that never moves me. An interesting argument that's out

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Speaker 2: there is that when you take a look at the

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Speaker 2: map that Indiana has drawn, the map might put agricultural

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Speaker 2: communities at a disadvantage because the capital of Indiana, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: isn't a place called Marion County, and Marion County in

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Speaker 2: this new map is actually now four districts. No, not

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Speaker 2: just the one county, but everything comes into the county.

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Speaker 3: So the county was.

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Speaker 2: Broken up to four districts. This obstensibly to move out

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Speaker 2: Andre Carson in the Congressman Democrat. He should be moved

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Speaker 2: out because he's disgusting support of Ilhanomer has supportive reader

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Speaker 2: Rashida to leave his friendship with Lewis Farakhn gross a

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Speaker 2: man who is a very poor judge of character. I

713
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Speaker 2: will not miss him when he's done with the grift

714
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: of just sitting in his grandmother's seat. Julia Carson was

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Speaker 2: the member of congress's grandmother and then he took over.

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Speaker 3: It's a family business. I'm not a fan of family business.

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Speaker 2: Like in Tucson it was our Oul Grahava and now

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Speaker 2: it's at Alda Grihava.

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Speaker 3: It's a family thing. It's very messed up, very messed up.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, so the idea that this map might be harmful

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Speaker 2: to ad community, this is at least a discussion and

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Speaker 2: an argument and worthy of talking about.

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Speaker 3: And you know how many people have been talking about

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Speaker 3: this zero zero I'm favorite interesting and I bring it up.

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Speaker 3: So what's going to happen? Well, the.

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Speaker 2: Conversation is in committee right now, and the committee is

727
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Speaker 2: going to have to decide whether or not they vote

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Speaker 2: this out of committee. And that's not possible. No, that's

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Speaker 2: the Senate. Is that the committee because the Indiana Senate

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Speaker 2: has adjourned?

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Speaker 3: Did they adjourn while I was talking?

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Speaker 2: Is that because the crowds were creating too much noise

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Speaker 2: and they couldn't talk? Oh, getting nuttier and nuttier by

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Speaker 2: the second. I've made my argument for redistricting. I am

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Speaker 2: making no bones about it. I'm not shy about it.

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Speaker 2: It's an honest discussion of where the issue is, why

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Speaker 2: I favor it, And yes, I recognize it's about power.

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Speaker 2: The people who scream, well it's just a power grab. Yeah, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: it is. All politics is a power grap So now

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Speaker 2: that we've had this conversation, let us put this to

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Speaker 2: bed and let's see what happens. Let us see where

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Speaker 2: they go. The White House is following this, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: follow it. But it seems that we might not get

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Speaker 2: any more movement today. But we'll see what happens with

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Speaker 2: that committee and I'll.

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Speaker 3: Bring you the updates. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz

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Speaker 3: and this is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Three things you need to be paying attention to Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 3: is gonna move to Cutter. No, I don't know if

751
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Speaker 3: he's moving, but he's going to buy a house there.

752
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Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm an American, I do it. I

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Speaker 2: want listen, Tucker. Nobody understands what's going on with you.

754
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Speaker 2: You sound like a crazy person. No one said that

755
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Speaker 2: you can't buy a home in Cutter or Qatar qa

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Speaker 2: t a R. But your love affair, love affair with

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Speaker 2: Cutter and going to this symposium and doh doing interviews.

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Speaker 3: And more pushback on Ted Cruz than on.

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Speaker 2: Nick Plantes and the terrorism possibly funded by the royals

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Speaker 2: there in Cutter and we're not supposed to notice, and

761
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Speaker 2: then Tucker fans will get all crazy. Why is why

762
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Speaker 2: is everybody's so obsessed with Tucker Carlson? Why is everyone

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Speaker 2: why is Ted Cruz so obsessed? Good Lord, I'll say

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Speaker 2: anything about anyone I want anytime I want you see Tucker.

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Speaker 3: I also am an American. I did reach out to.

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Speaker 2: Tucker for an interview, and I thought I had the

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Speaker 2: proper email and things like that, and Cup bounced back

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Speaker 2: to me. No one said you can't, although I didn't

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Speaker 2: know you could because I don't know the rules of

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Speaker 2: Cutter and whether they allow people from the United States

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Speaker 2: to own property there. I don't know what those rules are.

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Speaker 2: But man, that's weird. It's weird to want to move

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Speaker 2: to a spot where the real question of their support

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Speaker 2: of terrorism lingers, and I think we all kind of

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Speaker 2: know the answers. That's Tucker explain his politics. I can't.

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Speaker 2: When he interviewed Vladimir Puta, I'm like, Okay, if I

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Speaker 2: had the opportunity to do it, I would do it too.

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Speaker 2: When he told me that Russian grocery stores were better

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Speaker 2: than US grocery stores, Okay, sit down, you sound like

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Speaker 2: a crazy person. You are a crazy person, plain and simple.

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Speaker 2: Then there is, as broke last week, the arrest of

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Speaker 2: the January sixth bomber. These pipe bombs were allegedly put

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Speaker 2: down on January fifth, and from the RNC and the

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Speaker 2: DNC and the FBI, said, we don't know who did this,

785
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Speaker 2: and hey, who left their cocaine in the White House?

786
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Speaker 2: Nobody knew anything Hunter left his cocaine in the White House.

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Speaker 2: That's my bet. If there is a if there are

788
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Speaker 2: odds on polymarket, could someone find it for me? What

789
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Speaker 2: are the odds? Are we still guessing as to whose

790
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Speaker 2: coke that was? Who planted these bombs?

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Speaker 3: No one knew?

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Speaker 2: And then here come cash metelling Dan Bongino, the director

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Speaker 2: of the FBI and the deputy director of the FBI

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Speaker 2: saying we've got a guy, a younger black man, that's

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Speaker 2: who planted these bombs.

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Speaker 3: And then came all the.

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Speaker 2: Conversation about oh, well you know this guy's a Trump supporter.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, a Trump supporter. Oh he thought the

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Speaker 2: he thought the the twenty twenty election was was was

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Speaker 2: rigged and that's why he did it. The left so

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Speaker 2: desperate to make all of this fit their narrative they

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Speaker 2: didn't care what they said. So all this talk of

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Speaker 2: well this guy was a Trump supporter, well, just anonymous sources.

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Speaker 3: As you know, Oh, we're not one hundred percent sure.

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Speaker 2: The family leans left, The father has a Bellbond's business.

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Speaker 2: They hired Ben Crump, who's a progressive attorney who does

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Speaker 2: all these cases where he wants to be able to

808
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: scream racism. That's how he made his money. And they

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Speaker 2: engage a lawsuit going after the Trump administration for immigration policies.

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Speaker 2: That's the family that he is a part of, and

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Speaker 2: he is the one alleged innocent til Breven guilty to

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Speaker 2: applanted these pipe bombs. So the Left, instead of saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: what's the story here, they said, hey, how do we

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Speaker 2: manipulate the story? How do we change the story so

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Speaker 2: it fits our narrative?

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Speaker 3: Because what's more important.

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Speaker 2: Than the narrative news, news that's funny news is what

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Speaker 2: we tell people.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden you realize nineteen eighty four is

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Speaker 2: a really good book, and the idea of something being

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Speaker 2: memory hold.

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Speaker 3: Very real.

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Speaker 2: That brings us the story number three. Story number three

825
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Speaker 2: was a weird post by a guy. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Sabarium, who's over there free Beacon.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Aaron, but I like Free Beacon. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm reading.

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Speaker 2: Many it firms meaning internet technology firms, our post internet

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Speaker 2: technology or is an information technology? I sorry, I said

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Speaker 2: internet technology information technology. They are posting job ads that

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Speaker 2: unlawfully bar applicants from US citizens. I'm sorry they borrow

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Speaker 2: job applications from US citizens and they posted something the

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Speaker 2: REACT Training program designed for individuals looking to enhance their

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Speaker 2: skills and web development through hands on experience and comprehensive training.

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Speaker 3: You must have five to six years of experience need.

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Speaker 2: Candidates looking to take a training program on REACT need

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Speaker 2: a bachelor's before twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: No US citizens, I'm sorry, No US citizens. What in

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Speaker 3: the world is? What in the world is that?

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Speaker 2: And then it continues, one after another after another with

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Speaker 2: job rubs that are available in it not to US citizens.

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Speaker 2: If you have an H one B yes, if you're

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Speaker 2: an American citizen, no, what.

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Speaker 3: Is happening here? Now? For President Trump?

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Speaker 2: Before you get over your skis, sir, I could appreciate

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Speaker 2: that you believe we have to have people who know

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Speaker 2: how to run certain systems to be able to train

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Speaker 2: our people to run those systems so they can be

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Speaker 2: American jobs. But the idea that we don't have people

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Speaker 2: who can do these jobs is nuts.

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Speaker 3: And if indeed you're hiring at.

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Speaker 2: A location in Chicago that says in no US citizen well,

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Speaker 2: we can't have this, and I put forth to you

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Speaker 2: that those companies can't be allowed to work here. That

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Speaker 2: reporting from the Washington Free Beacon. Three stories you needed

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Speaker 2: to know. Follow me for more at Tony Kats on

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Speaker 2: Twitter X. This is Tony Katz today. People should be

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Speaker 2: aware that we are going to come.

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Speaker 3: To a very very.

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Speaker 2: Strong confrontation with Europe over speech, and we should be

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Speaker 2: very very clear that Europe, the whole of Europe, not

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Speaker 2: just the European Union, which I've also favor breaking up. Europe,

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Speaker 2: does not believe in free speech. They just don't. We

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Speaker 2: see polling here in the United States where younger generations

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Speaker 2: think that language can be seen as violence. I put

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Speaker 2: forth to you that as long as you're not saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's go beat up that guy, as long as no

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Speaker 2: one's saying, hey, let's beat up me, you could say

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Speaker 2: any gosh awful thing you choose. It's the only way

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Speaker 2: I know I'm free. Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today. Great

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Speaker 2: check that out for yourself. Everything over there brought to

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Speaker 2: Von Reese dot com use my last name, CATZ get

879
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: yourself the discount assembled in Indiana.

880
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 3: Beautiful time pieces. I'm wearing one right now.

881
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 2: People being able to say things about me, really groats

882
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: things about me, really dopey things about me. It's the

883
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: only way I know them free and not just about me,

884
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: well about anything.

885
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: It's the only way I know that we're.

886
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: All still here. You know how I know Trump is

887
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: not a dictator. All of a sudden, I'm doing I'm

888
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: cribbing forty year old virgin. You know how I know

889
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: you're not a dictator because I can still say anything

890
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: I want about you and I don't go to jail.

891
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: You know I know you're not a dictator because I

892
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: could tell jokes about your mom being fat, like it

893
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: could go on for forever. That's how I know Trump's

894
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: not a dictator. It's one of the reasons me being

895
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: able to do this show is how I know we're free.

896
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: It's people being able to say horrifying things. Free speech

897
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: does not exist for the speech that you love or

898
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: the people that you love. It exist for the speech

899
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: and the people that you hate because they hate you,

900
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: And do we think for a moment that these people

901
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: should be allowed to have a say in what you say?

902
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: The answer is, of course not. It is why on

903
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: any college campus, if students think that they're tough or

904
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: they're in charge and try and stop people from speaking,

905
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: they should be met with force so they are stopped.

906
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: The biggest fault of our university.

907
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: System today is that they actually think the students have

908
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 2: a point. The students are there to learn, and part

909
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: of what they have to learn is how to accept

910
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: the fact that someone might hurt their feelings. No one cares,

911
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: No one cares. Men are not women and women are

912
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: not men. If that hurts somebody's feelings, oh well, no

913
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: one's forcing you to listen. But I'm not going to

914
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: be told to lie to myself or lie to others.

915
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Women on the main are not as strong as men.

916
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: If that insults women at name the university, that's your problem.

917
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: Men can't have babies. If that insults any man, well

918
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: that's too bad for you. But those are the facts

919
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: and they are never ever ever going to change. There

920
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: is no such thing as a birthing person who isn't

921
00:58:59,320 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: a woman.

922
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: They're all women. Only women are birthing people. No men

923
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: have ever given birth to anything.

924
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: Except to really bad ideas, like saying things like birthing people.

925
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 3: That's how I know him free.

926
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: I know him free because a ridiculous bigot like Lewis

927
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: foure Kan can still speak out there and he's a

928
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: disgusting human being. It's the only way I know him free.

929
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: It's the only way any of us actually know that

930
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: we are free. What brings this up.

931
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: I talk about Europe because it was a very.

932
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: Interesting video that was put out by the Undersecretary of

933
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Speaker 2: State Sarah Rodgers. And I'm not familiar with Sarah Rodgers,

934
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: but Sarah Rodgers was responding to a post from a

935
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Speaker 2: member of the European Parliament, Helmut Bronzetodter.

936
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Speaker 3: By the way, with a name like Helmet Bronze daughter.

937
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: This is a guy who once tried to overtake a

938
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 3: country that name. That's what happens, That's all I'm saying.

939
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Speaker 2: He is an alum of the University of Vienna and

940
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: John Hopkins.

941
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: Something or other.

942
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is, so I don't

943
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: want to read it because I'm not one hundreds sent

944
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: sure he is the spokesperson for foreign policy with an organization,

945
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: and he posted on the Twitter X a message to Piggyland.

946
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: Now this has to do with.

947
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: Donald Trump referring to a reporter as Piggy, and everybody

948
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: has taken this the amount of times I got called

949
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: piggy on social media, so I realized what the heck

950
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: was happening, Like, what in the world is going on here?

951
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: And that's what it's from. Jd Vance had stated rumor

952
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: swirling that the EU Commission will finally will find X

953
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: meaning Twitter, hundreds of millions of dollars for not engaging

954
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: in censorship. The EU should be supporting free speech, not

955
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: attacking American companies over garbage. This is where it's going

956
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: to come to a head. We don't care what you do.

957
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: You can't tell us how to talk, and you can't

958
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: find our companies.

959
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't work that way. So Helmet Bronze.

960
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: Daughter, I think you're pronouncing it right, writes a message

961
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: to Piggy Land. Can you believe that these are the

962
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: adults allegedly this is Oh, don't worry, I put Trump

963
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: in that category.

964
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: This is all crazed.

965
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: There is no censorship in Europe and everybody has to

966
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: follow our rules. Trump fights the free press, suing newspapers

967
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: and TV stations, so leave us alone. He doesn't fight

968
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: the free press. He notices when they lie like dogs and.

969
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: Then says, you can't do that. I mean, that's what's happening.

970
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: There's no just random lawsuit taking place, but there's no

971
01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: censorship in Europe. This brings us back to the undersecretary. Now,

972
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Speaker 2: I had to do an edit here because as she's

973
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Speaker 2: explaining what's happening, she uses language that, while I would

974
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: have no problem playing in context, could be a problem.

975
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: For my stations.

976
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: So I err on the side of them in engaging

977
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: the bleeping out of the word which was a derogatory

978
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: term for gay people.

979
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: So that was it. And she's not calling anybody this name.

980
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: She is talking about.

981
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: A case that took place as she sits in her

982
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: hotel room and says, you know, I'm on a diplomatic

983
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: passport so I can speak freely, and she does.

984
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 10: With my European train and checked into my European hotel.

985
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 10: And notice that a member of European Parliament called helmeut

986
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 10: Bronzetter tweeted a quote, there's no censorship in Europe. Everyone

987
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 10: has to follow our rules. Well, I'm traveling here in

988
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 10: a diplomatic passport, so I thought I'd take this opportunity

989
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 10: to say a few things that ordinary Europeans can't by

990
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 10: revisiting some rooms for which people in Europe and also

991
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 10: the UK have been investigated or arrested or jailed by

992
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 10: their governments over the past few years.

993
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: Investigated, arrested, or jailed.

994
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's something else for making statements such

995
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: as so, as I tweeted.

996
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 10: A few moments ago, a German woman notoriously received a

997
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 10: harsher jail sentence than a convicted rapist after the woman

998
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 10: called the rapist quote a disgraceful pig.

999
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: He rapes, she calls him a pig. She gets the

1000
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: harsher jail sentence. Now that society works for you, I

1001
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: don't want to call you out, but let's say you

1002
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: if that society works for you, well, you don't quite

1003
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: understand how to run a society. Oh and you hate women.

1004
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: If you think being called a pig is more offensive

1005
01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: then violently inserting yourself into the female body, I'm sorry,

1006
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: were we not talking about what it is we're talking about,

1007
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: were going to pretend. I'm sure there are other shows

1008
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: out there where they pretend. I'm not one of those people.

1009
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: That's a disease society. But Secretary Rogers continues.

1010
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 10: This was after he participated, along with several other disgraceful pigs,

1011
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 10: in the gang rape of a fifteen year old girl

1012
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 10: in a public park. Similarly, a British woman was dragged

1013
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 10: out of her bath by eleven police officers after she

1014
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 10: referred in a private text message a man who allegedly

1015
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 10: violently assaulted her as quote a f and victims of

1016
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 10: violent crime aren't the only people who lack free speech

1017
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 10: rights in Europe.

1018
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: In both these cases, she's discussing a verbal response to

1019
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: the most violent evs a fifteen year old and they

1020
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: go to jail and they are met with derision. Stop

1021
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: telling me that Europe is anywhere close to equal to

1022
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: the United States.

1023
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 3: That dog won't hunt. They're not okay.

1024
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 10: Sweeden, an activist called Erasmus Paladin was jailed after he

1025
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 10: burned a kouran and referred to Islam as gay Islam. Finally,

1026
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 10: in Germany, a man faced a criminal investigation for referring

1027
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 10: to Green Party leader Ricardo lang As quote fat.

1028
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: First, if you could go to jail for calling someone fat,

1029
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: Trump would have multiple sentences just based on Rose O'Donnell alone. Secondly,

1030
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't favor lighting things on fire, but you can

1031
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: in the United States. I don't think you should people

1032
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: who burned bibles the American flag add stuff doesn't move me.

1033
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: There's a difference between us and them. There's a real difference,

1034
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: and there is a real censorship issue you at play at.

1035
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 10: There are many more I could go on, but it's

1036
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 10: important to note that the European censorship bureaucracy often impostures

1037
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 10: as populist fighting against a big tech Yet none of

1038
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 10: the people I listed as a large tech company. These

1039
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 10: are ordinary Europeans and one brit who were punished by

1040
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 10: their governments for saying what they thought was true or

1041
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 10: just what they felt like saying. In a free society,

1042
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 10: that shouldn't happen. So which is it, mister Browns. Is

1043
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 10: there no censorship in Europe or do we all have

1044
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 10: to follow your rules?

1045
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: There is censorship in Europe and we all have to

1046
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: follow his rules. Secretary Rogers, I'm glad I could answer

1047
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: that for you. This is Europe. And that's exactly the

1048
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: kind of thing that you'll see people wanting to bring

1049
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: to the US. That's that's why these polls that you

1050
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: see about college campuses were they less and less believe

1051
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: in free speech.

1052
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: Is so dangerous and the first way.

1053
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: To stop this is to stop sending your kids to

1054
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: those college campuses. Just stop. I don't care if they're

1055
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: in year two, I don't care where they are in

1056
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: their degree cycle. These universities are not worth your money.

1057
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: They're destroying your kids. Stop stand up and say no.

1058
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: And to the universities. The students attend because they have

1059
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: to learn, and some of them don't know how to

1060
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: be normal, and some of them don't believe in free speech,

1061
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: and some of them don't believe in actual classical liberalism.

1062
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: And it's your job to teach them.

1063
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: And if you hired a bunch of professors who don't

1064
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: believe in classical liberalism but believe in thought policing and

1065
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: policing of words, well you're going to end up with

1066
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: a lot of garbage students who will eventually come for you,

1067
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: your university, and your job.

1068
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: We can do this the easy way or the hard way.

1069
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: The easy way is to stand up. The hard way

1070
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: is to live like Europeans do. No thanks, I'm Tony

1071
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today.

1072
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: So have we heard about this.

1073
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: Ridiculous Cinnabon story, which is a shame because who doesn't

1074
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: love Cinnabon?

1075
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 3: Tony Kats Tony Kats Today.

1076
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: Here's the story in the quick it's Minneapolis, or it's Minnesota,

1077
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: i should say.

1078
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: And a couple comes in.

1079
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: And they are from Somalia, That's how I know the story.

1080
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: And they come in and they start shooting video of

1081
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: this woman and she's like, why are you recording me?

1082
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: And the woman behind the counter, who's a white woman,

1083
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: starts talking about how she is a racist.

1084
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: And N word this and N word that again.

1085
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: I do that on you know, in favor of my

1086
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 2: stations not getting your emails.

1087
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 3: This woman got fired from Cinnabon and then.

1088
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: Somebody set up a gofund me and at last check

1089
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: it made like sixty thousand dollars. Okay, First things first,

1090
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: the couple that came in was looking for a fight,

1091
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:13,879
Speaker 2: looking for a problem.

1092
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: Was talking about the way she was dressed, which was

1093
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: just fine.

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Speaker 2: Now, according to your religious precepts, what she's wearing might

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Speaker 2: not be acceptable. Who gives it? Damn about your religious precepts,

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Speaker 2: don't say a word, walk in and get the cinnamon bun.

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Speaker 2: But you weren't there for the cinnamon bun. You were

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Speaker 2: there to cause a problem and hopefully get something to

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Speaker 2: go viral, and this woman obliged. The couple's gross. This

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: woman's response isn't something you're supposed to cheer. It's too

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: stupid for words. It's stupid, and we're this and then

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Speaker 2: we're that. Okay, Michael Richards, whatever you want. It's dumb.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't deserve a gofund me. Of course she got fired.

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Speaker 2: She deserved to get fired. Everybody involved with this is

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: wait for it, stupid, dumb. They went looking for a

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Speaker 2: problem and somebody obliged. They weren't offended, they weren't hurt.

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Speaker 2: They wanted this. Look at how we're being treated, Toda.

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Speaker 2: I swear to you, if the whole thing was an

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Speaker 2: act on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 3: Live, I'd believe it.

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Speaker 2: Nobody in this looks good. Everybody in this is a moron.

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: People gave to this woman. Well wait, I take it back.

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Speaker 2: I guess I didn't look soon enough. It's close to

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Speaker 2: one hundred grand people gave this woman a hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Clearly I need to gofund me.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not that crazy, so I'm not gonna get paid.

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Speaker 3: It stinks. I'm Tony Kats.

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Speaker 1: Why from the Heart Byer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 11: The reason poverty exists in the wealthiest country on earth

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Speaker 11: is not because we can't feed the poor. It's because

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Speaker 11: we can't satisfy the rich. Elon Musk is about to

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Speaker 11: become the first trillionaire. He is about to make more

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Speaker 11: money than every elementary school teacher in America combined. Do

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Speaker 11: we really believe one man is worth more than every

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Speaker 11: elementary school teacher? Why do we have a trillionaire when

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 11: they're kids without enough to eat? Why do we have

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Speaker 11: a trillionaire when cancer patients are going bankrupt? Why do

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Speaker 11: we have a trillionaire when veterans are sleeping out on

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Speaker 11: the street.

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to go through these one by one,

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Speaker 2: mister tillerco, I'm happy to answer these for you.

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Speaker 3: This is James tel Rico.

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Speaker 2: He is a candidate for Senate in Texas, and he

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01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: is everything that's wrong with public education, everything that's wrong

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Speaker 2: with the university set and everything that's wrong with progressivism.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 3: But he's not done.

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Speaker 11: I'm all for success, but this is not success. This

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 11: is hoarding. What leads a person to accumulate more money

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Speaker 11: than they could possibly spend in a hundred lifetimes when

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 11: there are people starving in this one. The reason poverty

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 11: exists in the wealthiest country on earth is not because

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01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 11: we can't feed the poor. It's because we can't satisfy

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Speaker 11: the rich. But what we can do is tax trillionaires

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Speaker 11: out of existence.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: The violence left and when they say yes, but no, no,

1150
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: no taxes come via the barrel of a gun. You

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: don't pay your taxes, we take your stuff, we throw

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01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: you in jail, we hurt you. And that is what

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Speaker 2: James Tallerico caring leftist, wants to do.

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Speaker 3: This is the argument to the left. This is the hatred.

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 2: I can take just some of his arguments really quickly

1156
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Speaker 2: and describe how embarrassing and shameful and unbelievably dumb they are. First,

1157
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 2: more money than you can spend in one hundred lifetimes.

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01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: I guess that depends on what you spend it on.

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Speaker 2: What makes you think Elon won't spend it on hungry children?

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01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: You have no idea what he's going to spend it on.

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Speaker 3: The guy spend forty billion dollars on Twitter.

1162
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: Clearly he doesn't have a good idea of value.

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Speaker 3: Who knows what he's going to spend it on. That's

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01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 3: his business.

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Speaker 2: Because you see all those people who have cancer, and

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01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: you see all those people who are hungry. None of

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: them are the fault of Elon Musk. You look at

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: this thing over here and say this thing is terrible,

1169
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: and then you take a look at someone and say,

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 2: let's blame him. My god, Tall Rico, I'm just image

1171
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: you didn't blame the Jews, or black people or immigrants.

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the.

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01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: Same conversation that you're having that you obstensibly don't like.

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01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: You and your political party don't like about the right.

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01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,520
Speaker 2: This is the claim you're making. Oh, it's those immigrants

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: that are the problem. The immigrants are not the problem.

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Speaker 2: Immigrants who don't want to be a part of America,

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Speaker 2: well that is a problem.

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 3: Anybody who's counter to America is a problem.

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: Anybody trying to undercut America is clearly a problem. This

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: is easily said and understood. But what's the difference in

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: your other rising James Talerico, And the answer is absolutely

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: positively nothing.

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Speaker 3: Look at what a hateful, spiteful human being you are.

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Speaker 2: These people you're hungry, these people are poor, and it's

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 2: his fault.

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Speaker 3: Great, you went after the trillionaire.

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: Wait till he starts going after the one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: hours because oh, that's you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how are you? That's you?

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01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: Do you think this philosophy ends with the amount of money.

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01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: I'm all for success.

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Speaker 3: No you're not. You're all for power in.

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Speaker 2: Deciding somebody has too much success because it offends you,

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Speaker 2: and taking it via the barrel of a gun. You're

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Speaker 2: a violent man, James Talerico, a violent, violent, petty little

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01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 2: man who can't do it on his own. You're not

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Speaker 2: man enough to hold up Elon Musk. You're not man

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Speaker 2: enough to put the gun to his back, never mind

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Speaker 2: his front and say stick him up. No, you need

1201
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,919
Speaker 2: to run for Senate so you can have the government

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Speaker 2: do it. You absolute pansy coward.

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Speaker 3: We see you.

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not in favor of holding up

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk. I'm utilizing it straight a point. The point

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: is you, James tel Rico, I don't care about your

1207
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: whole story. And the guy has a story. Everybody has

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: a story. Member of the Democratic Party in the Texas

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Speaker 2: House of Representatives, masters of Education degree and education policy

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Speaker 2: from Harvard. Well, good for him, but no one taught

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01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: him that government is force. And by saying I've decided

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: that that person has too much, you are the authoritarian.

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: No one taught him this. This embarrassing, embarrassing child.

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 3: What do you mean child. Well, he's thirty six, so

1215
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 3: not a child, but he.

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: Certainly sounds like one. He certainly acts like one. He's

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01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: got more cookie than I do. He has to give

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: me some of his cookie. That's James Talery, go James

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: salerco whyn't your cookie? Not in the fun way. That's

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01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: just one of many, many stories, but goes to the

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: idea of my gosh, these people will say and do

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01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: anything except recognize that we should have rules, and we

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Speaker 2: should have laws, and there's no law against being a trillionaire.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to do something about the costs

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Speaker 2: for people who have cancer or dealing with cancer in healthcare.

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Speaker 3: We can let's.

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Speaker 2: Start by getting rid of Obamacare because it doesn't work.

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: Are we allowed to do something about the illegal immigration issue?

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Speaker 2: People who have already been let in the country who

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be let in the country. Oh yeah, you know

1231
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: that New York Times story, right? The New York Times

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01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: came out with a story yesterday. Well, you know a

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01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: lot of people told Joe Biden that his immigration policy

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Speaker 2: wasn't working and he should be doing more.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't look at that. They wouldn't want to

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 3: listen to that.

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01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: The Biden administration and their cohorts in the media told

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Speaker 2: us that the border was safe and secure.

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 3: They did it, day after day after day. They lied.

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Speaker 2: We knew they were lying it, they kept doing it,

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: and the media kept going with it, sharing that lie,

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01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: calling people like us, you and me, no matter where

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01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 2: we are in the political spectrum, xenophobes for noticing that

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: the border wasn't safe. And now five years later, here

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01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: comes the New York Times to say, well, we did

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Speaker 2: our reporting, and our reporting shows us the Biden administration

1247
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't listen.

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 3: Where the hell was your reporting for five years?

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01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: You were okay with all the suffering because you didn't

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01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: want to give Donald Trump any opportunity to get the victory.

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01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 3: Why do you think New York Times the people hate you?

1252
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 2: And now you've had immigrations and customers enforcement moving people

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Speaker 2: in the country illegally out now, just so we're on

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Speaker 2: the same page, I do not believe that ICE can

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Speaker 2: ask anybody for their papers.

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: Do you know somebody is here illegally? Now someone's involved in.

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01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: A lawful arrest or stop or attention, just like in

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: Arizona they have SB ten seventy. I believe that there

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: are places where you can ask that question, are you

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Speaker 2: in the country legally? But walking around and saying show

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01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: me your papers? Absolutely not. Some cop walks up to

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: me and says, show me your ID.

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Speaker 3: What the hell's wrong with you? I don't show papers

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: to cross the street? Get bent? Do you suspect me

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Speaker 3: of a crime? Otherwise I'm walking away. Now.

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Speaker 2: We've seen cops enough times now that I'm gonna get

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: arrested for doing absolutely nothing wrong. And that's an issue

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01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: with the police that we should be honest about. But

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Speaker 2: if there is an understanding of this is an area

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Speaker 2: where we have people who are in the country illegally.

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Speaker 2: I don't have an issue with ICE doing their job,

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: and no one should. But if you were to ask

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Speaker 2: MS NOW and the people they're talking to over at

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Speaker 2: MS NOW, like Congressman.

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Speaker 12: Robert Okay, let's move on to the immigration crackdown that

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 12: we're seeing with this administration, because I know tomorrow you're

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Speaker 12: going to be leading a public forum in combination with

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Speaker 12: Senator Richard Blumenthal to hear from American citizens who have

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Speaker 12: been caught up in enforcement actions by this administration. This

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Speaker 12: as we're seeing more disturbing reports like this the Miami

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Speaker 12: Herald capturing a moment a woman in Florida was forcibly.

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Speaker 3: Removed from her car on the way to work.

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Speaker 12: DHS claims she was detained after failing to follow orders.

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Speaker 12: But listen to her calling for help. Here's fay, I'm

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01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 12: a US citizen, Please help me. How does it's been

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Speaker 12: like this fit into the stories you might hear tomorrow?

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Speaker 8: Is there a through line?

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Speaker 13: There are over we know of over one hundred and

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Speaker 13: seventy US citizens that have been detained by ICE, many

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Speaker 13: of whom have spent in detention without any ability to

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Speaker 13: call their family or.

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Speaker 3: Access to a lawyer.

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Speaker 13: Now we know in this country that due process is

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Speaker 13: something that is that both US citizens and non citizens have.

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Speaker 3: That's clear.

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Speaker 13: Now, ICE ignores that, let's stop.

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Speaker 3: For a moment.

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Speaker 2: ICE does not ignore them in this case here, I

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Speaker 2: believe it was Homeland Security that responded with this woman

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Speaker 2: was in a car with somebody who was here illegally

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Speaker 2: and was involved in a stop. And that's why she

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Speaker 2: was also taken into custody.

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Speaker 3: At that moment to determine who she was.

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Speaker 2: And as reported by CBLS at CBS twelve dot com

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Speaker 2: a statement from US Customs and Border Protection provided to

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Speaker 2: the Miami heralds, the woman refused to roll down her

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Speaker 2: window or provide her driver's license after being stopped. Agents

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01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: then removed her from her car and placed her in

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01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 2: a patrol vehicle while they searched her vehicle. And then

1310
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: when they got her driver's license and confirmed she was

1311
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:58,520
Speaker 2: a US citizen.

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01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: She was released shortly afterwards.

1313
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: So this is MS now not giving you the whole story,

1314
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: not engaged in the honesty. This wasn't a woman who

1315
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: has just plucked off the streets.

1316
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: And you we're going to put you in cuffs.

1317
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: That isn't what happened, And so here is MS now

1318
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: and Representative Garcia engaged in a lie, in a fraud

1319
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: and gaslighting the American people on what it is ICE

1320
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: is doing. By the way, if ICE is walking into

1321
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: people's houses and arresting them, I want it stopped. If

1322
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 2: ICE has the warrants and the knowledge that it's somebody

1323
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: who's here legally involved in X, Y and Z, that's different.

1324
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 3: But let's listen more to Representative Garcia.

1325
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 13: But to go after United States citizens because of the

1326
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 13: color of their skin or because an ICE agent might

1327
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 13: think they are undocumented, is outrageous.

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 3: No one now is safe in this country.

1329
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: Not sue, But if people are here illegally, are not

1330
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: safe in this country? Okay, Clearly, with the work that

1331
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: we have done at the border and the shutting down

1332
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: of illegal immigration at the border, clearly we can argue

1333
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: we're safer. And clearly we can argue that the more

1334
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: people in the country illegally that we remove that never

1335
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: got metted, the safer we will be.

1336
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 3: If the argument is we have.

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 2: To safeguard ourselves against abuses of a police state, I'll

1338
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 2: say absolutely.

1339
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: Let's start with not attacking people for.

1340
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: The amount of money they have in the bank by

1341
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: threatening to eradicate them. See how that works. See how

1342
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: we were able to tie that together. Now the left

1343
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 2: won't accept the argument. I'm not having this conversation because

1344
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 2: I need them to accept it. I need What I

1345
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 2: hope is that other people who maybe haven't thought about

1346
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: it see it. Are like, Okay, Tony's making a point there.

1347
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: I may not agree with them on everything, but all right,

1348
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: that's a solid point about the use of power, the

1349
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: use of authority, the use of governments, and utilizing it

1350
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: as a weapon.

1351
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 3: I don't want American citizens having their.

1352
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: Rights violated, and I don't think that attacking Elon Musk

1353
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: for making money is anything other than government force and

1354
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: government threat.

1355
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 13: Because of Donald Trump and what he's done to law

1356
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 13: enforcement agencies like ICE and DHS, I've talked to numerous

1357
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 13: US citizens who were detained for days. I talked to

1358
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 13: a veteran just a few weeks ago served our country

1359
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 13: in Iraq, was detained. He did nothing wrong, no criminal record,

1360
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 13: He was detained for days, missed his daughter's own birthday,

1361
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 13: has never been given an explanation. A US citizen and

1362
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 13: veteran of the United States.

1363
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Speaker 2: With all due respect, Representative Garcia based on what you

1364
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: said just moments ago about this woman who was detained,

1365
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure I'm going to believe your story.

1366
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 2: I would like more evidence to the story, more data

1367
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: to the story.

1368
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 3: Take you at your word.

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01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: You've already proven an MS now has already proven that

1370
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: you are not credible on this.

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01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: You're not.

1372
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: Zero credibility. I think I would speak for rational people.

1373
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: We wouldn't want any part of that. We wouldn't want

1374
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 2: any American citizen detained for days without representation or anything else.

1375
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: By the way, asked the representative of what he thought

1376
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: about all those J six defendants. No, no, he doesn't

1377
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: care about them. Okay, all right, I care all the

1378
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: way around. But I'm not going to take a man

1379
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: who just in the same segment, in the same basically

1380
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: breaths lied about what happened with this woman who was

1381
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 2: detained after she wouldn't get out of the car, wouldn't

1382
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: show a driver's license, was in a car with somebody

1383
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: who the WHOI ICE was going after, and then when

1384
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: it was determined she was an American citizen, was released. Now,

1385
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna listen to him. As

1386
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 2: for the mayor, of Minneapolis.

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01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 14: Jacob Pray correct, our police officers will not coordinate with

1388
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 14: ICE or any federal agency around immigration law enforcement work. Now,

1389
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 14: we do work with federal agents around important criminal activity, narcotics,

1390
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 14: gun violence. We arrest perpetrators of violent crime. But we

1391
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 14: will not work with federal agents around immigration law enforcement.

1392
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 14: Why because we've seen the unconstitutionality of it, We've seen

1393
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 14: the chaotic nature that it creates.

1394
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 3: We know that it breaks.

1395
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 14: Apart families that make Minneapolis better, and we want nothing

1396
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 14: to do with it.

1397
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: And we don't want to stop any riots from happening

1398
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis for about a year and just let our

1399
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: city burn to the freaking grounds. I'm Jacob Fray. Where

1400
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: can I take a knee for George Floyd? That's him,

1401
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: that's him. But the people in Minneapolis keep voting for terrible.

1402
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: You're gonna keep getting terrible. That's all there is to it.

1403
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: By the way, he's got bigger issues, like the entire

1404
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: Somali fraud case. Yeah, yeah, bigger issues does he have?

1405
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's gonna stop ICE. I think

1406
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna keep working and they're gonna keep doing their job.

1407
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 2: It should be a reasonable thing to say that Americans

1408
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 2: can never be abused by law enforcement, Americans can never

1409
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 2: be in convenienced by law enforcement, and any time there

1410
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: they are, we have to take a look at the system.

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01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 3: I believe this. I will say this to anyone anywhere,

1412
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 3: at any time.

1413
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: But should ice keep working to make sure that we

1414
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: remove illegal immigrants from the United States. Absolutely, do not stop,

1415
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 2: do not rest, do not quit. That is what we

1416
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: voted for.

1417
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats Today. So

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01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: all eyes on Indiana redistrict.

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01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: Dang it, it makes sense because you know, however this goes,

1420
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 2: however this works out, the story is going to be

1421
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: what is worth the fight? That's the question. Tony Katz,

1422
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. Good to be with you. You guys know,

1423
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 2: I'm based in Indiana. I've been asked a million million

1424
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: questions regarding what it is that's been happening here and

1425
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: done some interviews about it. And one of the questions

1426
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: that I keep getting asked is why is this? Why

1427
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: is it that Republicans are so hesitant to move forward

1428
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: on redistricting. I mean, there's a great, great series of

1429
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 2: answers here that don't satisfy.

1430
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: The Republican Party in Indiana is a very weird bird

1431
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 3: that isn't based on conservatism.

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01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh so they're all being led by Mike Pence. No

1433
01:28:54,800 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 2: one here is being led by Mike Kinz. Absolutely, no one.

1434
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: It's just one of the more ridiculous things ever said.

1435
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 2: I have lived here for eleven years, and what I've

1436
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: seen in my eleven years from Mike Pence's the governor

1437
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: to Eric Holkom is the governor now Mike brawn is

1438
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: the governor, is that there is a real lack of

1439
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 2: team leadership that takes place from the governor's mansion. There

1440
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: is no rallying the troops that happens. And the more

1441
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,919
Speaker 2: you watch, the more you realize that the governor's position

1442
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,879
Speaker 2: here isn't as strong as it might be in other states.

1443
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: The General Assembly has much more power and can quite

1444
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: literally in the vast majority of cases, ignore the governor altogether.

1445
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: Once that's the case, now they're playing a game of

1446
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: whether or not they're concerned about your group's ability to.

1447
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Get them out of office.

1448
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Do they really think that some group of DC named this,

1449
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: that or the others are going to come in and

1450
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 2: get them out of their district and in you know,

1451
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: northwestern Indiana, they don't. And as a matter of fact,

1452
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 2: it seems obvious that they're saying to the Trump faithful.

1453
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 3: We dare you to. I mean, that's clearly what's going on.

1454
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 2: So the issue here is that these Republicans are immune

1455
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: to so much of what US conservatives want to engage in,

1456
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 2: and until they get real primary challenges, it's true they

1457
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: won't respond.

1458
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 3: They won't respond until their own jobs are on.

1459
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 2: The line, and actually the only thing that's on the

1460
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 2: line for them, I'm Tony Katz. I have never heard

1461
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:52,799
Speaker 2: people discuss the idea of cheating in the NFL more

1462
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: than I have over the last six months. Tony Katz,

1463
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: Tony kats today, Good to be with you, good to

1464
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: be here, or find everything I do over at Tony

1465
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Katz dot com. Never in my life have I heard

1466
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 2: so many people talk about cheating in football that very

1467
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: clearly there's something going on, and it's all has to

1468
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 2: do with the gambling, and the gambling has become so

1469
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: prolific and proficient.

1470
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's doing it. You bequit us, that would be the

1471
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 3: right word.

1472
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: That clearly games are getting manipulated in order to beat

1473
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: the spread and not beat the spread.

1474
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 3: It's nuts. And this was the latest.

1475
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Was Dave Portnoy over there at barstool, and so he

1476
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 2: posts this video to his Twitter feed.

1477
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know what the rules are, but I'm

1478
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 3: sharing it. I have the NFL wants to come taken down.

1479
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1480
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 2: This is the Broncos Raiders game now full disclosure.

1481
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 3: I am not saying that anybody is doing nothing. God,

1482
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 3: I'm trying to avoid that lawsuit. I noticing what it

1483
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 3: is people are saying a lot.

1484
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 2: This conversation is coming up everywhere that there's something really

1485
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: weird going on. This is the Broncos, the Raiders, and

1486
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 2: the Broncos are up, by the way, they've won ten

1487
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: in a row. They're nuts, They're good. They're now eleven

1488
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 2: and two. The Broncos are up twenty four to fourteen.

1489
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: And Portnoy, too, I don't know, is just losing his mind.

1490
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: It's a two minute clip where he's like, everybody has

1491
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: to go to prison.

1492
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 3: Listen, we need.

1493
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 4: This entire segment investigated by the NFL. Third and three,

1494
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 4: that's twenty four seconds. The spread is Denver Misse eight

1495
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 4: and a half. They're up twenty four to seven, by

1496
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 4: the way, with like two minutes to go.

1497
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 3: He spikes the ball.

1498
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 4: Why are you spiking the ball with sixteen seconds in

1499
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 4: a ten point game?

1500
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 3: Is beyond me? The game is over.

1501
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever seen a spike in

1502
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 4: that situation.

1503
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 2: Now he's got a solid point there. The Broncos are

1504
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 2: up by ten, sixteen seconds left. You're not gonna get

1505
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 2: two scores.

1506
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 3: In sixteen seconds. What's the point of it all? It's over.

1507
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 3: Go for the end zone. Just to go for the

1508
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 3: end zone. It's done.

1509
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 2: Spiking the ball is to stop the clock, right, that's

1510
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 2: what you're doing. Okay, you're there to stop the clock.

1511
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: I hear you, I see you. I don't quite understand it.

1512
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense neither here nor there. You're stopping

1513
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: the clock. Fine, but now it gets more interesting.

1514
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,919
Speaker 4: But we're just starting, boys and girls, we're just starting

1515
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 4: to get now. I want you to watch this next

1516
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 4: play because he's gonna roll out, throw.

1517
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 3: A pass and get caught the clock. You should run

1518
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 3: out later.

1519
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 4: They can't get up to spike it, and they can't

1520
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 4: even to be honest, just get caught. Pete Carroll, you're

1521
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 4: a piece of shit. Pete Carroll is one of the

1522
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 4: great stumbags. I would honestly punch Pete Carroll right his

1523
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 4: old face.

1524
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Of my songs I hear at Tony Katz today do

1525
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: not recommend the violence.

1526
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 3: It's good, Lord Portnoy.

1527
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 2: The rules of the Internet versus the rules of radio

1528
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 2: were so different.

1529
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 3: Hah. Now, I didn't know this about Pete Carroll.

1530
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: I've done a much better job of getting myself up

1531
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 2: to snuff on a lot of different sports categories, football especially.

1532
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 3: But man, I didn't know there was.

1533
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: Such hate for Pete Carroll, former coach of the Seattle Seahawks,

1534
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: formerly there USC and some other places, and now with

1535
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders.

1536
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 3: I had no idea, no clue. And so people are like, oh,

1537
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 3: and some people are like, you don't know. He's called

1538
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 3: Sneaky Pete. Sneaky Pete.

1539
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 2: Sneaky Pete is a guy who's some low level drug

1540
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: runner in a much greater mafia story, Sneaky Pete.

1541
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 3: Next thing you know, there's little Paulie. The whole thing's

1542
01:34:55,640 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 3: going on. So he's got some choice words.

1543
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: For a for Pete Caw. So the Las Vegas Raiders

1544
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: set up for a pass. They set up for a pass.

1545
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: They're in the shotgun, and then this all right, here we.

1546
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 3: Go sixteen seconds.

1547
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 4: Raiders are definitely cheating right now doing whatever big money

1548
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 4: clearly on the Raiders plus the points. So they throw down.

1549
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 4: Here there's nine eight. Watch watch he gets up. They

1550
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 4: call that's a lay a game. There's four seconds. The

1551
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 4: game is over lock it. What is that flick?

1552
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 3: By the way, we're gonna rewind it. Jones didn't even

1553
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 3: do anything. So the player goes down.

1554
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: The Las Vegas Raiders player goes down, and then he

1555
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: gets covered up a little bit by the Broncos on

1556
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: the defense right to try and run out the clock

1557
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: or whatever it is. But then the Broncos player gets

1558
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: up and the Las Vegas player gets up, and all

1559
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden, flag is thrown and the flag is

1560
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 2: a defense of penalty.

1561
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 3: But what does the flag do.

1562
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 2: It stops the clock with four seconds left. And this

1563
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: is what's got Portinoy out of his mind, right. He

1564
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,719
Speaker 2: can't believe it was called a penalty. He's talking about

1565
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: him gonna fast forward a little bit, and then he

1566
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 2: gets into what is the crux of the situation.

1567
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 4: Delay a game silly played when the game is over

1568
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 4: laid on, dude, I've seen that a thousand times works.

1569
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 4: It's four three to one, go home games over and

1570
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 4: then Pete Carroll runs out the field goal unit.

1571
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 3: It kicks a field goal to end the game with

1572
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 3: no time.

1573
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 4: This guy prison, this ref prison, Pete Carroll prison, NFL prison.

1574
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 4: This is the most rigged game I've ever seen in

1575
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 4: my entire life.

1576
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: And with doing that, with kicking the field goal, they

1577
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: change I think the spread with seven and a half

1578
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 2: and they beat the spread, and people are like, this

1579
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: is it.

1580
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 3: This is the proof the NFL is rigged.

1581
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 2: Now, I want to say, for the record again, Roger Goodell,

1582
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 2: this is what other people are saying. I did not

1583
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: say such a thing.

1584
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 3: But let's not.

1585
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Pretend that Portnoyd don't have something interesting to talk about here,

1586
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: shall we. Let us not beat people who want to

1587
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: play some great, big game of.

1588
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: Make believe that he's just making it all up. Oh no, no, no, no, no,

1589
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:45,440
Speaker 3: no no, no, that happened. That happened.

1590
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: My problem with all conspiracy theories is that once you

1591
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 2: buy into them, everything's a conspiracy theory. You can find

1592
01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory under every pot. You can find one

1593
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 2: under every rock, you can turn a corner boom.

1594
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory just hit me in the.

1595
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 2: Face, and so I think there's a fair amount of

1596
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 2: that happening. But are we going to pretend that the

1597
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: gambling doesn't have an effect on everything?

1598
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 3: If Pete Rose existed in this.

1599
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 2: World, would he had ever been banned from baseball for life?

1600
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 2: The gambling's ubiquitous. It's twenty four seven, three sixty five.

1601
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 2: And look, I've done ads before for one of the

1602
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 2: one of the betting apps. I'm not opposed to the

1603
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: betting apps, but holy mackerel, the people are like, you know,

1604
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 2: we've got a real problem with betting in the United States.

1605
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: They're onto something. I don't want to ban it. Someone

1606
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: said to me that we need to work aggressively.

1607
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 3: To ban it.

1608
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's legal, and I'm not here to

1609
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 2: stop that. There are people out there who want to

1610
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 2: ban cigars and bourbon. I tell those temperance folk to

1611
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: sit down. I'll do what I want. I'm not in

1612
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 2: interested in your thoughts. Don't tell me about my health.

1613
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm fully aware. Now hand me as regard with another bourbon. Please,

1614
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 2: But is this now getting to a place where outcomes

1615
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 2: are predetermined and worked to achieve. Right, it's hard to

1616
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 2: redetermine whether or not the Broncos can score. It can

1617
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:30,799
Speaker 2: be somewhat arranged to ensure an opportunity for a reduction

1618
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 2: in the spread. That's not theoretical. That is that that

1619
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 2: proof is in the proof. Why do you think they

1620
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 2: called seven and a half points? What do you think

1621
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 2: that half point is? I gotta tell you I I

1622
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 2: not just Portnoy, Right, you could argue Portnoy loudmouth whatever.

1623
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 3: It's a lot of people buying into this, and we

1624
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 3: should be clear.

1625
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 2: That the NFL has got a real problem, a real

1626
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 2: problem with this.

1627
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 3: Now do they care? I don't think they care.

1628
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean if they cared, they wouldn't be trying to

1629
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 2: push internationally the.

1630
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 3: Way they are.

1631
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 2: And we are just a decade away from having NFL

1632
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 2: teams based in other countries. I mean, you know that

1633
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 2: that's coming, right, It's two thousand percent coming.

1634
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 3: Dear lord.

1635
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: They're playing in Spain, they're playing in Germany, they're playing

1636
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 2: in London.

1637
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 3: I mean, to one said, you know, to play in

1638
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 3: Israe would be pretty cool. They're not gonna do that.

1639
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: I would like to see which NFL players don't show up,

1640
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 2: just so I know which ones. That's what my jerseys of.

1641
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I'm not buying any jerseys. But this is

1642
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: a thing. This is a thing. The NFL has got

1643
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 2: to start dealing with the fact that the fans think

1644
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 2: there's a problem.

1645
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,839
Speaker 3: And they think that you are liars.

1646
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: And so now, if you're betting on the games, what

1647
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: is it you're betting on outcomes or what somebody else

1648
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 2: is rigged?

1649
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:09,919
Speaker 3: Is the outcome?

1650
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 2: Don't get angry with me, NFL. I'm just reporting. Seriously,

1651
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: am I getting sued?

1652
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: What are the odds?

1653
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: Are the odds high? Porto's got more cash than me.

1654
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 2: They'll go after him first. I'm not suggesting they do,

1655
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 2: but I'm saying i'd be further down. We're like an

1656
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: accessory just for bringing up the story this time, kind

1657
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 2: of like here, he's not the only one having this conversation.

1658
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: He's not the only one bothered. The NFL better recognized

1659
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 2: they're not escaping this. People think that they're is serious chicanery.

1660
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 2: A man, they're bringing receipts. I'm Tony Katz. This is

1661
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today.

1662
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 7: It's completely disgusting. These are Americans that he is calling garbage,

1663
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 7: and we feel like there is an unhealthy obsession that

1664
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 7: he has on the Somali community and an unhealthy and

1665
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 7: creepy obsession that he has with me. I think it

1666
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 7: is also really important for us to remember that this

1667
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 7: kind of hateful rhetoric and this level of dehumanizing can

1668
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:23,839
Speaker 7: lead to dangerous actions by people who listen to the president.

1669
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 3: It certainly can, just like it led to him being

1670
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 3: shot at.

1671
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:34,520
Speaker 2: So we're clear, Representative Ilhan Omar, you Jew hating bigot.

1672
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 3: It absolutely can. Woh woh, woah, woah, woah.

1673
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: Don't look at me. She's the one who's the Jew

1674
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 2: hating bigot. Your problem is, I'm noticing. That's what makes

1675
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: her conversation so weird. Your ire Representative Omar is not

1676
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 2: for those Somalis involved in a massive fraud against the

1677
01:42:53,439 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 2: American people. Your argument is some words Trump said about them. Now,

1678
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 2: I can agree, you don't go after a group of

1679
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 2: people for what some people in that group did.

1680
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 3: I think that's correct.

1681
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: But how dare you think that he's got some kind

1682
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 2: of creepy obsession with Somali's in Minnesota when look at

1683
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 2: what took place, the criminal activity.

1684
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:24,640
Speaker 3: With people you knew.

1685
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 2: And you took photos with, and so did Keith Thousand,

1686
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 2: the Attorney General, and the Governor Tim.

1687
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 3: Walls clearly knew what was going on, and no one.

1688
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 2: Said, boo, you're angry that we're watching. That's the story.

1689
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 2: Ilhano mar Tony Katz, that's me Tony Katz today.

1690
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 3: Great to be with you. She's a bigot, end of list.

1691
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 2: She has no place in Congress, and shame on anybody

1692
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 2: in Minnesota who votes for her.

1693
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 3: But the story is massive and growing.

1694
01:43:55,880 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 2: The scheme where billions and when I say billions, this

1695
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 2: was the reporting from Fox News.

1696
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 3: Fraud investigators are finding in Minnesota is growing by the day.

1697
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 15: Kelly Leffler, who leads the Small Business Administration, says in

1698
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 15: the two days her agency has been investigating the state,

1699
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 15: they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud

1700
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 15: just two days in. Several of the whistleblowers in Minnesota

1701
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 15: have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of

1702
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 15: fraud could total up.

1703
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 3: To more than eight billion dollars.

1704
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 15: Governor Tim Wallas, who is up for reelection, is under

1705
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 15: fire for all of this happening under his watch.

1706
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 3: But yet I don't believe that the people in Minnesota

1707
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 3: are going.

1708
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 2: To change their vote because well, he's a Democrat and

1709
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,560
Speaker 2: I have to support Democrats.

1710
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 3: Well, this is clearly Trump's fault. I don't know how

1711
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 3: it's Trump's fault.

1712
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 2: We'm going to have to blame Trump because it has

1713
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 2: to be Trump's fault, because it can't be Tim Walls's fault.

1714
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 3: After all, somebody that masculine, it can never be their fault.

1715
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 3: It's not a bad impression, you gotta admit. I think

1716
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 3: I nailed it. Not gonna lie. I'm pretty proud of

1717
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 3: myself right there.

1718
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 2: Eight billion dollars possible, the greatest fraud operation, greatest stepth

1719
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 2: to tax fair dollars to welferre fraud in American history,

1720
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 2: that according to Stephen Miller. And that's the same Stephen

1721
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Miller that she is referring to as a white supremacist.

1722
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 2: She did that on CBS, and Margaret Brennan didn't say, Okay,

1723
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,759
Speaker 2: stop that, stop that right now.

1724
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, she allows this to happen.

1725
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 5: I want to ask you what something else that the

1726
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 5: architect of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller, said. On

1727
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,839
Speaker 5: Thanksgiving Day, he posted no magic transformation occurs when failed

1728
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 5: states cross borders at scale, migrants and their descendants recreate

1729
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 5: the conditions and terrors of their broken homelands. What do

1730
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 5: you make of this argument of failure to assimilate and

1731
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 5: sort of ruining America? How do you understand this?

1732
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 7: I think about Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric.

1733
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 7: It reminds me, yes, it reminds me of the way

1734
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 7: the Nazis described Jewish people in Germany.

1735
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the way you've described Jewish people. She

1736
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 2: calls them a white supremacist. Goodbye, you're off the set.

1737
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 2: Leave and now now noticing what happened in Minneapolis, Well,

1738
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 2: you see, that's like the Nazis deflection and gross deflection

1739
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 2: and denigration of the Holocaust. People were given an opportunity

1740
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 2: to be Americans, some of them born in America, and

1741
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 2: they stole and they have to go to jail for it.

1742
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 2: And you're right, not every person who is from Somalia

1743
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 2: is guilty. There's a real question about what you knew,

1744
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 2: and we should at the very least investigate you, which

1745
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 2: I hope is coming and that right soon. Find everything

1746
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 2: at Tony Katz dot com. I'll catch you tomorrow everyone

1747
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 2: and you'd be good.

1748
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 3: Now, take care,