WEBVTT - Peacemaker Season 1 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:10.760 The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to the Frames 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.280 second Podcast. My name is Gonna be joining in the show. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.480 We have Nick, Spike and Mike. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.239 I guess that's how I know I have a special guest. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.480 Yeah. Yeah, we're talking about Peacemaker man. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.800 You know, we were just having before the cameras started rolling, uh, 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:37.000 conversation about Superman, you know, and and James Guns rolling 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:38.040 that and. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:44.920 This was his first first thing he did for them, right, technically, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.400 it's not Suicide Squad. Yep, was that squad? That's right? 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.760 Well, I was gonna says the Flash, wasn't he trying 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.560 to say the Flash was like one of the best 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.600 that was supposed to be, like Jenna was at the 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.920 end of his ship or at the beginning. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.520 That's that's not James Gun was involved. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:58.360 He was just trying to sell it. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:00:59.160 Okay. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.840 Yeah, but it's first uh, and this was the first 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.840 season because it got renewed, so we're gonna cover the 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:06.360 second season. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:07.600 So that's why we're doing the first one. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.240 And it's based on, of course the DC comic character 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.640 of the same name, and it's the only television series 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.480 in the d C U or d C EU as 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.479 they call it, and it's. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:25.280 Like, he's not a show with the d CU, none of. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.160 That c W shit or whatever it is is including that. Yeah, 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:29.760 well it's. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.440 An awful show that racist itself. Yeah it's Yeah, it's 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:34.160 pretty bad. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.880 But it's a spinoff from the twenty twenty one film 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:38.479 The Suicide Squad and. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:39.240 It takes place. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:43.200 It took place after the events of the film, and 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.920 it's based on character Chris Smith and was also known 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.600 as Peacemaker. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:51.800 Spike. What did you think about this? 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.360 I was so ready not to watch this, like, uh, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.040 use my comic book exclude that I have, Like, I 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.560 ain't got no background on this, I can't review this ya. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.760 So but as I watched it, I was, Man, nobody 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.520 had told me about it. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:08.919 This was really really good. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:09.840 It was done well. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.840 I bized it all in one day because I. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.080 Was like, Okay, I got time to watch it in 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.520 between my day and it worked and stuff. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.920 So I enjoyed this. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:18.120 Man. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.400 I think everybody did a great job. All the actors 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.960 was good, the characters were funny. I liked the dead 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.800 Pool stuff. I wish they could do all superhero stuff 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.480 like this, but I know they can't because kids watch it. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.600 But this was my style right here. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.600 This it really wasn't made for adults. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.320 Yeah, this was definitely made for adults for kids. I 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.600 wish they could make all superhero movies like this. I 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.160 would enjoy them more. But y'all, I love this. This 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.919 was I'm waiting on season two. Mm are you Mike 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.000 waiting on season two? 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:46.640 No? 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.600 No, not waiting on teason due. I'll watch it because 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.800 I'm sure you dorks want to review it. But I 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.240 didn't dislike this or anything. It was fine. It was 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:57.200 very fine. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:58.440 You know. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:04.480 Uh, there was nobody's story that I was particularly interested in. Uh, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.040 and I don't. I don't like this kind of humor. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.760 It was just a bit too much for me. He 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.600 was like, all right, here comes a joke, Here comes 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:13.880 a joke. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.400 We get it. He's stupid, It's like, all right, But 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.600 it was fine. It was fine. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.320 Did you like how the dialogue in like current event 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.680 were not current events but stuff that people are talking about, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.120 having conversations about, like almost as human. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.920 I don't think I noticed it. Okay, it was fine. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:31.160 Yeah. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.680 I was hesitant to watch this show when it was 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.400 coming out, but I kept hearing people talk about it, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.040 so I waited till all the episodes got out, and 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:43.920 then I binge watched most of it, not all in 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.360 one night, but I binge watched. It's actually better than 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.760 our thought. Yeah, so it's like the floor was in 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.800 Hell because it's a John Cena led show. But I 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.920 did like what you know, the Suicide Squad was. I 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.839 found it interesting. They picked him to do a whole 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.320 series based off of it, though, and then I liked 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.640 but I did like how they included like Amanda Waller 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.600 and some ships, and like, I liked how they kind 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.640 of told the story and it was a little bit 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.320 some more twists and ship in it as well. So 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.440 I like it. I'm like what I'm like with Mike, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.000 like it's not a must season two. I'm like first 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.080 day Out, like I'm ready for it, but I watch 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:18.360 it them. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.200 I was like, you, the bar was in Hell must 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:21.960 be why I liked it a lot too. The bar 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.239 was like I was dreaded and even having to review 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.640 this and I ain't seen Suicide Squaddy, so like, I 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.440 just watched it. Whatever, but I. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.280 Like, I guess you, I mean, it would give you 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.400 a lot more context. There's a lot of shing especially 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.159 with season two coming out really well, yeah. 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.760 I'll watch it. But the little thing is sees that 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:41.760 they opened up with previously. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.279 I liked that they started it with the review of 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.479 the movie that way, I wasn't completely lost. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.160 The movie ain't that bad though, No it's not. It's 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:50.000 not not from what I remember. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.160 At least it's not that bad. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.200 You might like, if you like this, you were, you'll 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.279 definitely yeah, you'll fuck with the movie at least the 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:55.840 second one. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:04.480 It wasn't bad. But I think, you know, I'm with Mike. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.120 With the Human it was a lot. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.479 It was a lot. It's like they just would not 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:16.960 let up. And overall, I thought the story was okay. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.320 I thought the series was okay. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.320 I see why people do like it as much as 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:27.880 they do, and I think it it showed kind of 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.160 to what you were saying, Spike, with some of the dialogue, 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.080 some of the things he was saying in this show. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.960 There was a lot of ignorance in it and stupidity 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:40.320 from this guy that's kind of stupid, but saying ignorant things. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.479 So what is the. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.120 Story that they're trying to tell with the guy who 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.440 has a racist dad, you know, and some of the 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.000 kind of phobic shit he was saying, you know, based 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.040 off ignorance as well, and them kind of excusing it 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.440 and pointing it out to him. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.360 Yeah, I think he was a representation of right wing America. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.320 I think that's what he speaks to. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.280 I think they geared their character towards like the eighteen 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.640 to twenty three year old white male, and it feels 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.040 like he's lost his place in America. Like, I don't 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.320 think that he's an anti hero almost to me, he 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.240 doesn't come off as. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.400 He when you say they kind of also making fun 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:22.800 of them. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.480 Too, and they I think they were doing one in 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.200 the same Yeah. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.760 Yeah, So I don't know. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.960 I don't know how appealing that would be for them, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.640 because he's he's representative in a way of them, but 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.000 also kind. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.599 Of well that's a good point, you're right, Yeah, doesn't 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:39.800 somebody's trying to peel to the. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.880 Other side of the people that don't like them. Yeah, that's 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.800 what I thought. Oh, gotcha, that makes sense more sense? 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.840 Ye? All right. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.679 Well, it's like eight episodes, right, and pretty much they're 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:59.640 trying to stop Butterflies. Project Butterfly is what they call it, 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:04.280 And when he was getting information about it, he pointed 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.240 out that they're not really good with project code names 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.760 because the Project Starfish was actually Starfish, and he kind 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.760 of wondered if this would be the same, and it 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.320 turns out that it actually was. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.800 But Peacemaker gets out of jail. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.160 He's been in prison for four years and he's reacclimated 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.679 to the world, and opens with him talking to that guy, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.480 and you know, he goes home to get his stuff. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:29.680 He gets his best. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.560 Friend Eagerly, which is an eagle, which hugs him, and 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.840 he runs into his dad, who His dad is an 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:45.880 awful person who hates everybody, Blacks, Jews, Catholic everything, And 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.440 we learned over time that his dad was trying to 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:56.160 turn him into what he was. What do you guys 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:01.000 think about his dad? His dad actually played a pretty 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.280 big role throughout the whole series, which I was kind 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.200 of surprised that they kind of kept going along. But 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.120 we see the Terminator pop up. He's just not there 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.360 just to be a side character. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.360 I was wondering, is this a part of the comics? 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:14.800 Do you know? 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:21.320 Did you read anybody reacting. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:19.400 To the show? 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.520 I was wondering if they put somebody this racist into comics. Yeah, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.080 his dad was. It was a miss. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.840 I thought his dad was I thought his dad was 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.320 funny because like just seeing that ship, I don't know, 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:37.720 I guess it always makes me laugh a little bit 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.080 to seeing how racist white people could be. But I 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.320 did find it interesting that Chris was trying to find 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.679 I'm not trying to use the word trying to find 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.920 his peace with it. But it was just like like 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.120 like the lack of a father figure, like the father 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.520 figure he wanted to have, and why I kind of 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.080 explained why he is who he is. It was like, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.080 this is a very like a father son kind of 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:06.120 ass season to start off this series, which I didn't 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.480 expect because you never know how seriously they gonna take 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.360 this series until they kind of bring certain themes up. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.800 But like, I thought that was very interesting that kind 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.640 of like how he was dealing with that and how 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.400 he was trying to reform It was kind of like 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.480 almost weird way like Loki trying to reform himself based 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.640 off how his relationship with his father. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.640 I mean, his father was a piece of word. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:31.200 But Mike, I wonder if he could have turned out 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.079 like his dad if he didn't accidentally kill his brother. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:36.280 Do you think it. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.800 Was a possibility that he would. He could have went 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.160 along that path as he was being groomed to be that, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.319 and that once he killed his brother, his dad hated 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.040 him and turned against them. So maybe that was the 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.880 how he kind of diversion with his own way. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.080 Yeah, yeah, if his dad, if that had never happened, 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.600 I'm sure his dad would have raised to racists. Absolutely, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.520 But I think think the discovery of what happened with 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:07.280 his brother was actually very shocking, and I think it. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.319 I don't know if that was even said in Suicide Squad, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.280 I assume not, but that was actually a really interesting 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.480 side story they had going about what happened to the brother. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.760 But I thought, I can't remember the t T two thousand, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.199 whether the fuck his name is, I can't think the dude. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.320 I think it's in the show. The White Dragon is 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:25.359 the villain. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.120 Name, Yeah, the White Dragon. I actually thought he killed 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:29.640 this role, but. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.680 It came too natural for him, it did. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.240 It did feel a little like either you a real 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.840 good actor or you say this shit on your regular job. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.360 But nah, I thought he was a real good character. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.560 Do you feel like if someone was over the top 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.080 or just we just get to see it. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:46.600 No, I don't think it's over the top. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.200 I'm sure people there's plenty of people like that that 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:55.480 just everything is a race a race comment, or a 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.480 homophobic comment or something like that. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.960 I mean, Spike's Boy is probably like that. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.080 I did like a song I think it was her 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.600 name soon the Detectives. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.640 What I just called the Detectives. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.920 I liked it before she turned. I thought she had 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.400 a like funny kind of little reaction time. She was 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.240 slightly awkward, But when she turned, I ain't like to 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:18.800 care well. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.200 I like the fact that she she didn't take the 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.199 racism laying down like whatever she would she would like 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.679 like push back, called him Blake Shelton and all that. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:29.840 She said, I can't take any more white people. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:36.400 Yeah, yeah, I thought that was that was interesting, and 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.240 I think it was like, you know, okay, yeah, you're 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.640 racist or whatever. And even everybody around him knew that 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.240 his dad was racist. And even in the beginning of 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.360 the move of the show, like we were kind of 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.840 introduce introducing us to more about him, the guy that 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.320 was talking to him, uh basically pointed out that he 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.000 killed a lot of like nune white people. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.560 He made a joke like, Okay, I killed. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.120 More white people, and then Vigilanni later on said that 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.360 he kills more white people than peacemakers. So I thought 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.720 that that was interesting and how that related back to 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:09.920 his dad and whether or not there was some type 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.280 of subconscious sort of thing that he was doing, because 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.079 he made a line well about he just killed people 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.680 that that commits, the sort of crime and the type 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.800 of areas that he patrolled. So I thought that was 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.600 a pretty good message that they kind of threw in there. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.040 What about the team? What did you guys think about 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:25.320 the team? 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:32.080 So you had Marned economist Hardcourt and my girl Tasty 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.280 from Warns is a New Black Daniel Brooks. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:36.240 She was good. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:37.240 She was really good. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.240 Yeah, she was really good. My favorite was this boy, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.120 though I don't think well we even got to. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.640 That hip, but we could throw Vigilania in there. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.360 Vigilani was my boy. He was funny. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.520 That was a really funny character that I think Vigilani. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.480 I thought that was hilarious all the time. The whole 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.760 every episode that he was in had an extensive dialogue, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.800 and I felt like he was funny just so this 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.120 shit he was saying. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.959 Yeah, I think Tasty was the one that was I 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.480 like the twist with Tasty as far as like the 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.160 connection he has with a man and wall I thought 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:09.600 that was. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.640 Like, but did you you can kind of see that 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:12.560 because I wasn't. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.480 It wasn't shocking, but it was just like I didn't 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.640 realize her, like her role was going to be that big. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.240 And I'm also thinking, like, how are they going to 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.520 include her in the universe now too, because like that's 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.160 a huge character to be attached to. So like that 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.800 made me like more interested in seeing like their relationship dynamic. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.160 Mhm, what did you think about the team? 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.440 And he's Tasty and I like I liked Hardcourt. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:34.320 I like Hardcore. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.240 I thought Hardcourt was was cool. But I mean, I'm 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:38.920 glad I was wrong. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.840 But the whole time, I'm like, Okay, at some point 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.040 her and peace Maker are going to get together. I'm 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.240 glad that didn't happen because would have been real predictable. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.000 I think season two you probably will get that, hope not. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.760 I think they leading up to it. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.000 I guess probably didn't want to do it. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:57.840 What's the what's the white dude with the glasses? He 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.720 was funny, He's That's what I'm saying. I like him 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.080 and you talk about Lana, he was the funnier one 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.319 because they kept making fun. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:04.600 Of him too. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.920 Yeah, he kept lying about it, but he was he was. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.600 He was, like I don't know if he was if 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.559 they just obviously wrote him like that. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.720 I don't know. I didn't really care for him. The 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.000 only one I liked on the whole team was was 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:24.200 was Tasty Hardcourt not really, Nah, I was it would 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.080 have been better to die. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.680 I like that. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.840 Yeah, I like you like, Oh, the black dude. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.840 Yeah, once I found out, Once I found out who 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.640 he was, but I lost all interest. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.080 What do you mean that he was a butterfly? 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.400 Yeah, I thought that was Actually I did too, I 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:38.760 thought it was. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.080 Really it took me out. I was like the one 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:41.120 black dude on this motherfucker. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:42.680 I liked it. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.440 But he was on the society, even though he like 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.760 he was on the upper side from all the other butterflies. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:48.280 I get that. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.080 But I'm just saying, like, yes. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.200 He was, he was. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.760 He was in a weird sort of way, kind of 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.480 like peacemaker, Like you know, everybody, all the butterflies wanted 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.400 to occupy and take over the world and control it, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.480 you know, White Dragon. When they all broke out of jail, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.160 like they there was a reason why they had those 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.480 two going side by side, because that's what they want. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.320 To do, is kind of takeover and the world for. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.120 Themselves, you know, and Learn and Peacemaker were kind of 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.000 two characters that were against that in their own way. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.520 So that's what I didn't like about him not telling 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.360 him though, Like I didn't like that they was keeping 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.760 it a secret from him, especially once it was revealed 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.600 everyone new. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.040 Yeah, but Peacemaker, they probably didn't trust him all the way. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.120 Like if they told him, who knows how he would act. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.160 But if he related a story like Ken just did 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.120 and say that I'm similar to you, Like. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.640 Yeah, but he you know, but he did. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.640 He did say it though, he was like when he 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.520 had to be honest about it, you know, but I 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.760 mean just from us, you know. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.000 Yeah, So I don't know. I think I don't know 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.960 if it would have worked, you know, because not the 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.440 evil people like we got to kill him. It sounds 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.680 stupid that the butterflies are taken over, you know. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.000 But yeah, but the way they did it was very interesting, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.240 Like it was kind of it was creepy. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.000 It made it like creepy and. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.800 Made him it made him. Yeah, like the way they 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.720 I hate that type of ship. Bro, That ship is 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:21.920 always creepy as fuck to me, Like, hey, getting molested 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.200 by butterfly sounds nuts. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:25.560 Yeah. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:30.080 The reveal was actually kind of I wasn't shocked because 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.080 like the second she put the thing on the helmet 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.320 and I was like, oh, he's a He's a butterfly guaranteed, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:37.160 and the fact. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.680 That he was, I was like, okay, well, but I 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.560 still liked him as a character. Even when he died. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.120 I was like, damn, I'm actually kind of sad because. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.440 I knew he was gonna die right after that too. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:46.440 I didn't think he was gonna die at all. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.720 I thought he was gonna make it to the end 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.640 because he seemed like a very popular, like not popular, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:51.760 but like a prominent character. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.120 I'm with Mike. I was surprised that they killed him. 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.520 I think they just had to kill somebody. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.080 Well, because I'm thinking, like, by the time the detective 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.560 and ship they get turned and all that, I'm like, 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.880 all right again, I'm at this point where I'm not 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.600 attaching myself to nobody. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.440 So I thought it was weird that the other guy, 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.760 the super tall cop that they put in there that 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.000 he ended up being turned because he was already one 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:13.359 of them. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.760 Right, What wasn't he a butterfly? 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:21.680 I never got that, like some creepy so he just. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.600 Worked with He was just I thought he was a butterfly, okay, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.640 because he was running around just killing cops and ship. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.000 Yeah, those are regular ass cops. They weren't turned. He 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:33.560 had that bike. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:39.280 Man, y'all gotta come. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.800 Yeah, he killed one of them, one of us A conscious 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:43.960 like Damn. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.840 Brou He was funny. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.159 He was funny when he shot the three cops and 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:50.520 they came and asked him who did it? 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.719 He described the burglar. That was funny his head. I 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.560 just wish we would have known. They could have shown, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:02.560 like some of the horrible things that Mern did, like 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.040 that was the one thing they made. It seem like 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.200 this motherfucker was awful and we never got a chance 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:07.840 to see that. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.040 I was like, what the fuck did he do? 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.280 I was so fucking bad about him? 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.439