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Speaker 1: So while all the attention is on Russian and Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: things going on with the Philippines, warships being deployed because

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Speaker 1: Chinese ships collided. It was Cenator Todd Young of Indiana

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Speaker 1: who was actually arriving in the Philippines soon after this

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Speaker 1: took place. The Senator joined us right now. Todd Young

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Speaker 1: joined us right now, Sir, good to have you with us.

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Speaker 1: You pay attention to a large amount of the things

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Speaker 1: happening geopolitically. This incident, I think it was in the

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Speaker 2: What happened and what does it signal to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks for having me on, Tony. This was

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Speaker 3: really a remarkable event captured as you know, on camera.

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Speaker 3: People can check it out online, but what you effectively

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Speaker 3: have and you are correct in the Philippine Sea, which

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Speaker 3: becomes at some point the South China Sea, which a

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Speaker 3: major transit route for international trade and full of, you know,

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Speaker 3: an abundant stock of fish and just an important natural resource.

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Speaker 3: But the Chinese are trying to steal the waterway. I

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Speaker 3: mean they have deployed hundreds of what they call are

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Speaker 3: fishing vessels, and yes they do fish and steal fish

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Speaker 3: far beyond hundreds of miles beyond their territory waters. But

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Speaker 3: they also establish a presence, a permanent presence throughout the

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Speaker 3: South China Sea and into the Philippine Sea, as do

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Speaker 3: of the drink. These are large, in some cases armed

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Speaker 3: and they're patrolling throughout the South China See. And the

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Speaker 3: overall purpose here is to undermine the rules, rules of navigation,

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Speaker 3: rules related to sovereignty and territorial integrity that have benefited

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Speaker 3: Americans and really most of the world for generations now

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Speaker 3: and so to the extent they can establish a presence

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Speaker 3: those activities not countered by the nation that is is

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Speaker 3: being violated, in this case the Philippines, that establishes a

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Speaker 3: things on other fronts. Ultimately, this will lead to the

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Speaker 3: taking of strategically important territory, could be Taiwan, could could

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Speaker 3: So this is this is the ultimate objective of China.

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Speaker 2: And we've heard that.

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Speaker 1: We've heard that President Trump said China's not taking Taiwan

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Speaker 1: while I'm present. That's just not going to happen, which

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Speaker 1: tried to set that like none, No, We're going to

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Speaker 2: He had said it more than once.

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Speaker 1: Is there a situation that is felt is coming through

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Speaker 1: these aggressive actions by China that a protection of Taiwan

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so the Philippines is they're the honor student

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Speaker 3: We're gonna challenge all these Chinese vessels, which led to

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Speaker 3: Let them die. It's neither here nor there. But so

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Speaker 3: Philippines from an objective standpoint, is very strategically important as

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Speaker 3: it relates to a potential seizure of Taiwan. Taiwan, the

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Speaker 3: Chinese Communist Party says, is part of China, and they

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Speaker 3: The Philippines is, you know, just miles away from Taiwan.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it's roughly the distance from Luzon in the

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Speaker 3: should D Day happen, it's very important that the United

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Speaker 3: And we have established a foothold in the Northern Philippines

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Speaker 1: Talking to Senator Todd Young of Indiana talking about China's aggression,

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Speaker 3: Well, everyone's looking to America, to President Trump in particular,

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Speaker 3: That's all you need to know in diplomatic speak, to

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Speaker 3: that's the only way you're going to get sustainable peace

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Speaker 3: in that part of the world if we stay strong here,

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Speaker 3: as President Trump stayed strong visa the Iran bombing their

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Speaker 3: seizing territory that isn't theirs and from doing things that

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Speaker 1: In the last few seconds I've got with you, President

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Speaker 1: Trump has been clear he did it. On an interview

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Speaker 1: on Fox yesterday, Caroline Levitt, the White House Press Secretary, reiterated,

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Speaker 1: if there is a peace keeping force in Ukraine, no

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Speaker 1: US troops on the grounds, But the.

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Speaker 2: Question is can he hold true to that promise?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that European nations putting people on the

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Speaker 1: ground to be a peacekeeping.

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Speaker 2: Force of any kind? Is that possible? And can America

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Speaker 2: stay out of that well?

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Speaker 3: It is possible. What the Europeans most need from the

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Speaker 3: United States if they're going to provide the ground troops

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Speaker 3: they need some other capabilities that they frankly do not have.

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Speaker 3: There is a precedent to this sort of mission. It

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Speaker 3: would be the Bosnian mission, the Kosovo mission in the

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Speaker 3: nineteen nineties, long time ago, but I happen to have

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Speaker 3: been in the military at the time. My unit provided

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Speaker 3: some support activity in that effort. We need to stay disciplined.

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Speaker 3: The rules of engagement would have to be clear, and

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Speaker 3: we would have to think through the contingency. If we're

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Speaker 3: allowing manned aircraft to fly the skies of Ukraine, that

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Speaker 3: one of those aircraft is shot down, that would create

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Speaker 1: We will speak more in the weeks and months ahead.

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Speaker 1: Senator Todd Young of Indiana, I appreciate you taking the

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Speaker 1: time to be with us more to get to this

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Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today