1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Line from val Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: All right. 4 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: First of all, I think you know who I am, 5 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: on Jeanine Charis Piero, I am now the United States 6 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: Attorney for the District of Columbia. 7 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 4: If only she had a working microphone, Judge Piero, come on, 8 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 4: you have got a nine account indictment against the murderer 9 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: of two Israeli embassy staffers. 10 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 5: This happened May twenty. 11 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: First, outside the Capitol Jewish Museum in DC. 12 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: And revictimizing victims of past anti Semitism. Now a few facts. 13 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: On May twenty of twenty twenty five, Elias Rodriguez traveled 14 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: from Chicago, Illinois, to Washington, DC and brought with him 15 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: a nine millimeter semiautomatic weapon. While on the plane, he 16 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: traveled across multiple state lines and drafted a manifesto called 17 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: an explication on his iPhone. His explication made clear his 18 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 3: purpose in committing these crimes that I'm about to read 19 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: to you was to demonstrate his hatred for the people 20 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: of Israel. The next day, on the afternoon of May 21 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: twenty one, he purchased a ticket to attend a young 22 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: diplomat's reception sponsored by the American Jewish Committee at the 23 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: Capital Jewish Museum. 24 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 5: The moorraw of the story is that we're. 25 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: Going to see these people, these murderers, and murderer wanta be. 26 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: Is brought to justice. 27 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 28 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 4: By the way, explication the act of making clearer or 29 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: moving obscurity from the meaning of a word or symbol 30 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: or expression. So it's not a spelling error. It is 31 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: purposeful to the word. I'm happy to see it, as 32 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 4: we should all be happy to see it, because as 33 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: we note, as we see these moves, these maneuvers, this 34 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: bigotry is not about Jews. This is about the end 35 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: of Western civilization. We're seeing this now. 36 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 5: In Australia and I will get to that story. 37 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: Australian saying, just like Israel, Australia doesn't have the right 38 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: to exist. This is what happens when you allow Hamas 39 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: supporters into your ranks, when you allow Islamists into your ranks. 40 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 4: It's what happens, It's what goes on. But let's bring 41 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: it and the madness continues. You've got over there at Sephora, 42 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: where They have a beauty line called Hudah Huda Hudahudah. 43 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: Well, the Judah Blue beauty line has a founder. 44 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: Where they say that Israel is to be blamed for 45 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: causing World War every World War nine to eleven and 46 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: October seventh, all of the conspiracy theories coming out and 47 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: a lot of evidence behind them that Israel has been 48 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: behind World War one, World War two, September eleventh, October seventh. 49 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: They allowed all this stuff to happen? Is this crazy? 50 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: Like I had a feeling. I was like, are they 51 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: behind every World War? 52 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: Yes? Behind September eleventh, Absolutely, yes, Yes. 53 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: The Jews were behind World War two. They did it 54 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: to themselves. I swear to you. I didn't know that 55 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: the creator of the Huda beauty line was Candace Owens. 56 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: But here we are. 57 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: Here we are now I have to worry about her 58 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: suing me. Emmanuel Macron and Briget Macron are suing her. 59 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: She's gonna end up suing somebody else. You know that's coming. 60 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 5: None of this is about what they say. 61 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: It's about Every part of it is about Western civilization. 62 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: Every part of it is about going after you and 63 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: going after your kids. Every single part of it. Now 64 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get into some of this regarding Bill Hemmer 65 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: his conversation with Benjaminitete, the Prime Minister. He was actually 66 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: in Gaza. I am supposed to go to Israel in 67 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: two months. I have the ability to get on a trip. 68 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred I'm sure. Now I'm leaning towards it. 69 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: I have a bunch of things going on. It wasn't 70 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: I should I should go. I should go. I should go, 71 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: and I should bring the equipment, and I should just 72 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: say sleep is for the week and just broadcast and 73 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: do the whole thing. 74 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: So I'm I'll keep you posted on that. 75 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: Now I've got these these other things that I want 76 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: to get into. But this, this story is just one 77 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: of many, like, for example, the story of the EPA 78 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: slush fund. Now you say to me, man, that's a 79 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: that's a You're really moving some some conversations here. Rather 80 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: what if I said, it's all in many ways part 81 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: of the same conversation that what we're seeing is how 82 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: people act and how groups work to support. 83 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 5: Things that are not of our benefit. 84 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 4: When you see the support for these pro hamas people 85 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: the college students on on campus. First of all, we 86 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: call them students like some o their children. They're grown 87 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: men and women. They should be treated like grown men 88 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: and women. And when they take over a building and 89 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: some level of play acting protest, you should send in 90 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: swat teams. 91 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: You should bust open doors. You should physically. 92 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: Accost them, throw them to the ground like they are 93 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: hostile actors, Cuff them, frog march them into waiting vans, 94 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: take them to jail, and then. 95 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: Decide what to do with them. And if you say 96 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: to me that. 97 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: Isn't the way we treat Americans, I'll say to you, Aha, 98 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: that's why. 99 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 5: That's my points booboo. 100 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: They are not what they are not, but they are 101 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: not children and they should not be treated well. They're 102 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: play acting, engaging in an act of violence while they 103 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: do so, we're gonna take over a building and solidarity 104 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: with Gaza and they're suffering. 105 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to destroy our property. You are gonna get. 106 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: Cuffed, it's gonna hurt, and then we're gonna throw you 107 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: into the waiting car. That's what's gonna happen, Tony. Do 108 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: you think it's okay to treat Americans like that? I 109 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: think you can take over a building with an act 110 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: of violence like they did in Columbia and threatened janitors. 111 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: Not so much Americans. 112 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: When you support terrorist organizations, not so much. 113 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: Americans. When you have systems. 114 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: That are meant to fund this anti American point of view, 115 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: not so much Americans. USAID proved, in my view, that 116 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: the organization did not exist for any benefit, and this 117 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: idea that we were going to do great harm to 118 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: the globe by not having it never came to be. Oh, 119 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: some people are going without the money, that's okay, that's fine. 120 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: We asked from the very beginning, we asked a very 121 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: very basic question. Does the institution exist to benefit the 122 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: citizen or does the institution exist to support the existence 123 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: of the institution. And what we found is from USAID, 124 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: it existed to support the existence of the institution, not 125 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: the citizen. 126 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: It is obvious to every rational mind. 127 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: That USAID existed to support anti American causes and people 128 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: who were interested in the slush fund, the power of 129 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: the progressives and the destruction of the citizen. They didn't 130 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: care about you, weren't the dam They were not working 131 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: in your interests worth the damn. They were working in 132 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: their interests and for their existence, for their people, for 133 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: their slush fund for their opportunities. 134 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 5: End of list. And when you see the. 135 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: Amount of groups that have gone out of business because 136 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: they lost their funding, I think it becomes factual. 137 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: This takes us to the EPA. I brought it up 138 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: just moments ago. 139 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: Did you know that there was a seven billion dollar 140 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: Solar for All program? 141 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: I didn't either. 142 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: The EPA had a program called Solar for All that 143 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: was designed, as reported by CBS News, to quote bring 144 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: renewable and affordable energy to low income communities. 145 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 5: Is that right? You had a seven billion dollar. 146 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: Program to hook up someone's house on the poor side 147 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: of town with solar energy. You remember when it was 148 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: Stacy Abrams who was gonna get money for stoves? Right? 149 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: She had this whole program that she put together where 150 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 4: she was helping people get fuel efficient stoves for their 151 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: homes and their businesses. She launched a nation wide awareness 152 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: campaign and a network of large small communities working to 153 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: help Americans go electric. 154 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 5: Two billion dollars. 155 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: I do not know how much an electric stove is, 156 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: but you could buy a lot of people electric stoves 157 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: are two billion dollars. She was going to focus on 158 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: electrifying homes, not saying. 159 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: Here you go. It was. 160 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: It was a grift. It's part of this idea, this 161 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: slush fund concept. That's what they do with your money. 162 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,479 Speaker 4: They don't take your money and say, let's be effective. 163 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: They take your money and say, how can we ensure 164 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 4: more money gets to the people We needed to get 165 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: to the people we wanted to go to for the 166 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: sake of the institution's survival, not for the sake of 167 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: the American people. The EPA has got the same thing. 168 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: The APA has got seven billion dollars. The Solar for 169 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: All Program provides funding the sixty grant recipients that plan 170 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: to create or expand existing low income solar programs with 171 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: the goal of enabling nine hundred thousand households across the 172 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: country in disadvantage communities to utilize solar to reduce their 173 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 4: home energy bills. Hold on, let's let's make the assumption 174 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: that I'm doing the math wrong, but will go with 175 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: it for the sake of the argument. 176 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 5: You have none. You have seven billion dollars. 177 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: That's a lot of zeros seven billion, and you had 178 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: this divided by sixty grant recipients. Each grant recipient got 179 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: one hundred and sixteen million, six hundred and sixty six thousand, 180 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: six hundred and sixty seven dollars. By the way, don't 181 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: get me wrong, I see all those sixty six sixes 182 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: in there. 183 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: I'll leave that for others. I just don't play in 184 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: those worlds. That stuff freaks me out. 185 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: So a grant recipient gets one hundred and seventeen billion 186 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: dollars to say, hey, you should you should heat up 187 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: that pasta with the power of the sun, and you're like, 188 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I should. 189 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 5: Do what now? The sun? The sun? What is it? 190 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: My god? The Sun a large fiery bowl, the center 191 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: of our solar system. But that's not important enough. Sure enough, 192 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: sure enough. This is a grift, That's what it is. 193 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: It's a grift. 194 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: Did you need to hear anything else before you were like, oh, yeah, 195 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: that's a bunch of crap. Also, how can I become 196 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: one of those sixty We don't even begin to comprehend 197 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: the levels to which people have been engaging the theft. 198 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 5: Of our dollars, the dollars of the nation. 199 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: It's so important we pay our tax dollars, that millionaires 200 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: and billionaires pay their fair share. No, it's important that 201 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: government make sure that our already existing dollars are utilized properly, 202 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: and until they do, screw them. I'm talking to you, 203 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: Senator Warren. You aren't making sure our dollars are spent properly. 204 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 4: You are just terrible. 205 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 5: You want more of our dollars. 206 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: No, you shouldn't get paid until you can prove that 207 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: there is no waste, fraud and abuse like this. My goodness, 208 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: can hear it for doge the value of seriously producer 209 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: land and nothing. 210 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 5: Thank you, my god, next time show up to rehearsal. 211 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: This is exactly what we need, and this kind of 212 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 4: program is exactly what we don't need. And as a 213 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: matter of fact, I don't think we should be encouraging 214 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: people to use solar at all. Let them decide to 215 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: let them make that decision, let the market do its work. 216 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: But yes, the EPA should immediately put an end to 217 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: this usaid solar for all. We do not understand in 218 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: any way how big the grift is and how many 219 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: people are making out like bandits from our dollars. But 220 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: the fact that we don't know how many, the fact 221 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: that we can't comprehend it, doesn't. 222 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 5: Mean it isn't happening. Oh, it's happening, and the more. 223 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: We uncover, the better off we're all going to be 224 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: if we stop it from happening. I'm Tony Kats. This 225 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: is Tony Kats Today. It's an interesting stat. Gun sales 226 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: in the month of July below one million for the 227 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: first time in over five years. Huh, that's well, that's interesting, 228 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. Certainly, 229 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: the purchase of firearms has grown, and it grew in 230 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: the Barack Obama days, and then it came down a 231 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: touch in the Trump years, and then twenty twenty man 232 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: it went through the stratosphere, twenty one, twenty two, at 233 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three, also up 234 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four over a million, and then twenty 235 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: twenty five this month of July just for the month 236 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: under a million. The last time was that it was 237 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. So it's not that over the course of 238 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: the last twenty five years, it's rare. 239 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: It's sat over the course the last few years, it's rare. 240 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: And the question is. 241 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 4: Why I'm going to put forth u two theories and 242 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: you've got to be able to keep two theories in 243 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: your head at the same time, because it could actually 244 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: be part of both or none. 245 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: But put forth two theories. 246 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: First, maybe, just maybe we are reaching the point that 247 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: everyone who wants a firearm has actually purchased at least one. Maybe, 248 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: just maybe there is the concept of saturation. 249 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: That's not a negative. I'm just saying it is. 250 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: Certainly, it is certainly possible that that is the case. 251 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: The other. 252 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: Possibility is something that nobody wants to talk about. Certainly 253 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: nobody on the political right wants to talk about, because 254 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: it would be the noticing of this. 255 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: Economy ain't great. I'm gonna get yelled at. 256 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: That's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Gosh, look at the GDP. 257 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 4: Oh the GDP number three percent blows my mind. But 258 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: I'm telling you that when you talk to people, they're 259 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 4: still talking about costs. I'll tell you a story. 260 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: I get to engage with a. 261 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: Lot of business owners and a lot of people who 262 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 4: do a lot of buying and selling and retailing and 263 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 4: buy from customers, and they're seeing people selling firearms, jewelry, 264 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: clothing at the local what do you call thrift kind 265 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: of places, all sorts of things. Not everything is great. 266 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: We are not economically out of the woods. 267 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: And if indeed this is. 268 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: The situation, if this is where we are at, why 269 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: then is there any surprise about the idea. 270 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 5: That people cannot afford the thing and one of the. 271 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: Things they can't afford is a new firearm when they're 272 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 4: buying bread, butter, milk, eggs, and cheese. That's what this 273 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: tells me that it is possible that there is a saturation. 274 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: It's possible, connected with anecdotal data, that there is a financial. 275 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 5: Issue at play. 276 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: One of the things that we've been talking about is 277 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: that credit card debt has been paid down a little bit. 278 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't even know it's possible. That doesn't make sense. 279 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: That would be a sign that things are better. I 280 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: want to redig into that number. I want to dig 281 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: into the idea of how many car loans are underwater, 282 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: how many people are walking away from levels of loans, 283 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: what is the default level on credit cards? And then 284 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 4: maybe we could tie this number in better. And by 285 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 4: the way, it could have nothing to do with the economy, 286 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: and all's to do with the fact that you know what, 287 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: I have seven guns and it's enough and I know 288 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 4: what you're saying, hah, Only seven. Do you mean in 289 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: this one room A. 290 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: So. 291 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 4: The story, by the way, is at Tony katz dot com. 292 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: You take a look at it. The data is interesting, 293 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: worthy of a read. This is Tony Katz Today. Find 294 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: everything at Tony kats dot com. They booed the Vice president. 295 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: Can I share a story from my home, sweet home. 296 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: It's not even reporting, guys, We're not even trying anymore. 297 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. 298 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 4: The Vice President of the United States, Jadie Vance, is 299 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: in Indiana meeting with Governor Mike Brown. Remember they served 300 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: together in the Senate. There's a conversation about redistricting here 301 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: in the state of Indiana. We only have two Democrats 302 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: in the House. Here nine seats total, two of them 303 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: held by Democrats. There's a conversation about redistricting. Okay, go ahead, 304 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 4: I have the conversation. No I canna get angry about it. 305 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: I mean, the people who are talking about Texas, they're 306 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: all so angry. They think these Texans are actual heroes. 307 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: They're not actual heroes. 308 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: There is a guy of state Representative James tell Errico, 309 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: who has compared himself to Abraham Lincoln. 310 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: We are in Illinois. 311 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 4: You know, the Texas Democrats, they didn't want redistricting in Texas, 312 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: so to avoid having a quorum to allow votes to 313 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: take place, they ran away to Texas. 314 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: What happened, right, That's what they did. 315 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: They one hundred percent ran away. And one of them 316 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: is they're saying, you know, we're in Illinois, and it's 317 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: appropriate because this is the land of Lincoln, and Lincoln 318 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: actually broke quornback in eighteen forty when he was a 319 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: state senator by jumping out of the window of the 320 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 4: Illinois state Capital. Thankfully, I didn't have to jump out 321 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: of any windows in Texas. But we are joining a 322 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: long tradition in America standing up the bullieves of speaking 323 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: truth and power and causing good trouble. Oh holy heck. 324 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: These people are silly and they don't look like heroes. 325 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: It's wholly embarrassing at this stage of the game. Well, 326 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 4: this redition conversation has caught fire. It's now being discussed 327 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: in other states. 328 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 5: And JD. 329 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: Vance, the Vice President, was in Indiana, and I think 330 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: they're talking about that. They're talking about this ice attention facility, 331 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: which they should rename, calling it the speedway Slammer. Doesn't 332 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: work in Indiana. I mean, they might keep it that 333 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: name and everyone's gonna move on with their lives, but 334 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: it doesn't. Don't mess with the speedway, man, you're wrong. 335 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: I'm scheduled on Newsmacs this evening and I think that's 336 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 4: one of the things I want to talk about. And 337 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 4: they're like, you'll say that he's wrong. I'll say President 338 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: Trump is wrong without question. I'll say that he's wrong. 339 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: Don't mess with the speedway. Don't mess with your buddy, 340 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: Roger Penske. Come on, But back to the redistrict. So 341 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: what is the What are the Indiana Democrats do? Like 342 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: like any Democratic party that has no ability to message, they. 343 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: Bring in people to sit there and boo. 344 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: So you have these people who are sitting in like 345 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: the rotunda area of the capital. Your capital probably has 346 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: a rotunda area, and they're booing and they're holding signs. 347 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: I don't believe any of them made their own signs. 348 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: I believe these signs are made for them. These people 349 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: didn't come to the capital of their own accord. I'm 350 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: willing to bet any amount of money that they were 351 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: bust or driven in, paid to be there, somehow compensated 352 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: this is my take. And there have been local India 353 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: reporters who talking about how, oh. 354 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: The crowd is really booing JD. Vance. 355 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: One of those people is Adam Wrenn, who writes over 356 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: at Politico. There are reasons not to be a fan. 357 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 4: The only thing wren has ever done to his credit 358 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: is before anybody in the state of Indiana, he was 359 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: talking about Pete Buda Judge and he was on that 360 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 4: Buddha Judge beat. I mean, as a matter of just 361 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: share reporting on something. He beat everybody to literally everybody, 362 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 4: he beat everybody to it. He's the idea that, in 363 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: my view, if you were to say he was a reporter, 364 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 4: I would say to you, Okay, sure, Jan right, whatever 365 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: you say. And he puts out on Twitter deafening booze 366 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: echo through Indiana State House as Vance meets with Braun 367 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: and legislative leaders on redistricting. 368 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 5: Deafening booze. 369 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: The Democrats bring in a bunch of Democrats to hold 370 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: pre made signs and boo the vice president. And then 371 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: we are told that the boos are deafening. 372 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 5: It's not news. It's no we're even close to news. 373 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 5: Did you see it? 374 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: The crowd was so old and so white. I thought 375 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: they were filming a remake of Cocoon. You want the story, 376 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: Indiana Democrats can't win statewide election. 377 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 5: They can't. 378 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: They've got nothing, no message except sitting in the capitol 379 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: on a Thursday when normal people are working and booing. 380 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 4: And look at the reporters. Ah, Look, the boos are deafening. 381 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: Dear lord, they're booing so loud because they're so old 382 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: they can't hear each other. 383 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 5: Gosh, it's. 384 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: It's embarrassing. And they call themselves the media. You should 385 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: be respecting us. Sure, whatever you say, kitten, whatever you say. 386 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: Not the only story out there. 387 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: I did. However, I want to get. 388 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 4: To it because you're gonna see this possibly in a 389 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: city near you. You're going to see the same exact nonsense. 390 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 4: I'm willing to bet you they didn't actually know why 391 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: they were there, why they were doing the. 392 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: Same exact nonsense. 393 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: And then the same level of non reporting as if 394 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 4: it's a story. This just in New York Giants fans boo, 395 00:25:49,040 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: New England Patriots fans, it's breaking news. The Michigan boos, 396 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 4: Ohio state it's just too silly for words. Meanwhile, Bill 397 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: Hemmer has the interview with Benjamin Att Yahoo, but he 398 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: spent some time in Gaza. Let us continue to bust 399 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: the myths. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is 400 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: Tony Katz. 401 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: Today. 402 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: Bill Hemmer was in Gaza. Bill Hemmer Fox News, and 403 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: his reporting out of Gaza would lead one to believe 404 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 4: that maybe what we hear is not factual. 405 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 5: Great question. 406 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 6: I'm not a doctor, but what I saw today, we're 407 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 6: a lot. 408 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: Of healthy people who are very energetic. Many of them 409 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 5: are young. 410 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 6: Age twelve, fourteen, sixteen, adults in their fifties and forties 411 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 6: with five six seven children. They were healthy based on 412 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 6: the way I viewed it today, doesn't mean what's going 413 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 6: on on the other side of that area is not 414 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 6: the case. But that was my observation so far today. 415 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 6: It's only one snapshot of what we saw within several 416 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 6: hours inside of Galazama. 417 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: What I take from that from Bill Hemmer is that listen, 418 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna cover myself here, but this idea that everybody's 419 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: starving just isn't the case. Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, 420 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: good to be with You find everything over at Tony 421 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: kats dot com. 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This is August twenty third, from Hollywood 431 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: to the Heartland. You want to join us. It's gonna 432 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: be a fantastic night. Tickets dot Tonycats dot com, tickets 433 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: dot Tonicats dot com. This starving conversation is not actually reality. Now, 434 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 4: I think it would be foolhardy to make the assumption 435 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: that there aren't people going hungry in Gaza. 436 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: You have hamas keeping the food from people. We've been 437 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 5: discussing this, so it seems. 438 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: Quite obvious that there is the possibility of people going hungry. 439 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: That said, the idea of outright and mass starvation is 440 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: was and continues to be a farce in every single way. 441 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: We know this, we're aware of this. 442 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: We are also aware that the people who've been trying 443 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: to make the argument of what we just want a 444 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: Palestinian homeland, that's that's not the case either, not by 445 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: any stretch of the imagination. I'll share with you some 446 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: audio I have out of Australia. But this is audio 447 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: from Mahmud Khalil. You're like, wait a second, I know 448 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: that name. 449 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 5: This was the agitator. 450 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: At Columbia University advocating for Hamas, supporting Hamas, attacking Jewish students, 451 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: which we already know is just a precursor to going 452 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: after all Americans are Christians. It's about the structured Western 453 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: civilis a Israel is just step one. 454 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: That's all. That's all it is. And we know that. 455 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: Well, he's doing this interview with Ezra kleinb. I'm going 456 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: to share some of this with you right now. Maybe 457 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 4: you won't catch it at first, but when you do, 458 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: when you do, listen. 459 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: To me, it felt frightening that we had to reach 460 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: this moment and and and and and the Palestinian struggle, 461 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: and I remember I didn't sleep for a number of days, 462 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: and it was very worried about about like just my 463 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: health and it was heavy, like I still remembered, like 464 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: I was like this, this couldn't happen, and. 465 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 5: What do you mean we had to reach this moment? 466 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: What? 467 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 5: What? What moment is this? 468 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't turning at that point at the United Nation Unite, 469 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: the Nation's redefund Works Agency at the UN at the 470 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: New York office. And that's part of my internship. My 471 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: research and work was focused on you know, Palestine, on 472 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: the situation in the West Bank, and and and you 473 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: can see that the situation is not sustainable. You have 474 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: an Isari government that's absolutely ignoring Palestinians. They are trying 475 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: to make that deal with Saudi and just happy about 476 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: their Aprahama court without you know, looking at Palestinians as 477 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: if Palestinians are not part of their equation. 478 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: Let's stop for a moment first, so much focus on 479 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: the Palestinians. That Israeli's pulled Israelies out of Gaza who 480 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 4: were living in Gaza in two thousand and five and 481 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: said here you go and gave up the Gaza strips. 482 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: So let's not think that Mark M. Khalil is a 483 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: broker here. But go back to what he said in 484 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: the beginning. 485 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: To me, it feelt frightening that we had to reach 486 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: this moment. And in the Palestinian struggle. 487 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 5: What moment is he talking about. 488 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: It's frightening we had to reach this moment in the 489 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: Palestinian struggle. He's talking about October seventh, he's talking about 490 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: the murder of twelve hundred Israelis. 491 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 5: And he referred to it as we, not Humas. 492 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: We. 493 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 4: If you want to know what this guy is, if 494 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 4: you want to know what these Hamas supporters are on 495 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: college campuses and other places, they are in this together. 496 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: This isn't about the Palestinians. This is about destruction. How 497 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 4: many more ways must you see it? Must you hear 498 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: it before you're like, oh, yeah, this is who they 499 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: are and this is what they mean. Because this is 500 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: who they are and this is what they mean. It's 501 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: in his own words. And for the record, I don't 502 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: know how this guy is still in America. He's not 503 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: an American citizen. He was already giving aid and comfort 504 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: to the enemy. That's why he was detained. Marco Rubio, 505 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: the Secretary of State, was absolutely right. And now he's 506 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: referring to the attack by Hamas and the Palestinians on Israel, 507 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: as we. 508 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 5: What's he still doing in the country. 509 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: Free speech is for American citizens, not for others, and 510 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: support of terrorist organizations ain't for no one. I mean, 511 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: you can do it, but deal with the consequence, is booboo? 512 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: I want to know how this guy is still in 513 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: the country. How is that possible? 514 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 5: You know? 515 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: Until we start really admitting that there are some people 516 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: want to do us harm and we shouldn't be harmed, 517 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: and we should always put ourselves in a place where 518 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: we can push back against those people in all the 519 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: ways one has to push back. Until we start getting 520 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 4: into this conversation, man, we've got problems, real problems. We 521 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 4: cannot lie to ourselves about what it is we're seeing, 522 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 4: what it is we're experiencing, and what it is they 523 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: are trying to do. 524 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 5: And it's not just in the United States. 525 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: As I brought up, Australia, people screaming just like Israel, 526 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: Australia should not be allowed to exist. Who should win this? 527 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: Fight them or us? I'm gonna put our money on us, 528 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 4: But right now we don't even have enough people who 529 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: understand and what we're fighting or how This will be 530 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 4: a conversation in the. 531 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 5: Days and weeks ahead. 532 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: Where to get to this is Tony Cats Today