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Speaker 1: There actually the Pacers still are I think a topic

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear here, it's not something of major,

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Speaker 1: Why are you telling me about the Giants and the Eagles? Understood?

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett might be the starting quarterback for Arizona this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Right? Does he get a tribute video?

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Speaker 2: How long was he here? Three years? Four years?

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Speaker 1: He was the starter for what? One full season? How

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Speaker 1: Jake just made it. Is it eighteen or nineteen? That's

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Speaker 1: can you look up for me please? Number of career

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't his only start.

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Speaker 1: He had come from I don't remember where he had

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Speaker 1: No one thought that was gonna work except for the Colts,

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Speaker 1: Matt pater has done at Purdue is remarkable and impressive

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Speaker 2: They've been do you know.

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Speaker 1: A national championship game, They've been through disappointment. They continue

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Speaker 1: Come compete in the SEC, Come compete for a final four.

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Speaker 1: We're Fletcher Lawyer. You're a really good shooter at Perdue.

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Speaker 1: But everything was centered around Braden Smith and we know

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of players that would buy into that, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying those offers were made. One would assume

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Speaker 1: something about Purdue and what's being done there. Like there's

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Speaker 1: a scene you have or have not seen, Eddie, ted

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Speaker 1: Lasso Love ted Lasso, Jake, I've seen it, Okay, non

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Speaker 1: There is a scene in ted Lasso, which is about

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Speaker 1: I think it's Trent Krem from The Independent. That's right.

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Speaker 1: He's the beat writer that covers the team, and then

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Speaker 1: there is a scene in ted Lasso. I think it's

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Speaker 1: And perhaps Mike Decorsi had his Trent Krem moment where

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Speaker 1: up on the program today at one o'clock. Breaking news

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Speaker 2: After missing the last two days of practice. Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: we're all Trent krem right, like we're all looking at

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Speaker 2: It doesn't diminish it at all, Jake, I mean we

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're great, no question. But again, the hope

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Speaker 1: to have won both going into it, but something we'll

435
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Speaker 1: talk about with Dave Repsen coming to hell.

436
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: No Name lost to Northern Illinois last year.

437
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Speaker 1: Understood, but then they ran the table. But then they

438
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: ran the table all the way through.

439
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Speaker 5: I know.

440
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Speaker 2: But I'm saying, you're comparing like when you compare it

441
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Speaker 2: in that regard, it's like, well, Notre Dame had the

442
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: worst loss in college football playoff history, they had one

443
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Speaker 2: of the worst losses in all of college football last year,

444
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Speaker 2: and they still made the playoff.

445
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Speaker 1: Understood, But it was also when they lost and then

446
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: what they did since then, Right, That's how they All

447
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying is if you are Indiana still and you

448
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: are looking at the possibility of not one, but two losses.

449
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that everything is bolstered up

450
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I just I think given the drugs,

451
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Speaker 1: Indiana would rather Penn State not have gone and peed

452
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: down their leg in UCLA, and and that Penn State

453
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Speaker 1: would have been ranked still like a top ten team.

454
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Speaker 1: When you're going in there, I think they're gonna beat

455
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Speaker 1: Penn State regardless, and then it's a moot point. Kyle

456
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Speaker 1: Nettingripp joins us on the other side, high school football

457
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: Friday night. We'll find out the big matchups. We'll talk

458
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Speaker 1: to him next high school football man. It is hard

459
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: to believe you just served Terry Stacey talking about it.

460
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: We finally are starting to get some of that autumn

461
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: air and the high school football season. I'm telling you,

462
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: every year, once it kicks off, it just flies past

463
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Speaker 1: and you start getting a real feel for who are

464
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Speaker 1: the pretenders, who are the contenders. Kyle Nettrip joins us

465
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Speaker 1: now from the Indianapolis Star. Of course, he covered all

466
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Speaker 1: of the high school sports for them and joins us

467
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Speaker 1: to preview what he is going to be getting into tonight. Kyle,

468
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Speaker 1: the big game tonight you have your eye on would

469
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Speaker 1: be witch.

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Speaker 6: I'll be down at Lawrence North and Center Grove tonight,

471
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Speaker 6: seeing the Trojans at home against Lawrence North team I

472
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Speaker 6: actually saw last week play really well, really really explosive,

473
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Speaker 6: fast offensive team, and I think that should be a

474
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Speaker 6: fun game. Lan had lost to them is several years

475
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Speaker 6: in a row until last year, so kind they were

476
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Speaker 6: able to break through against Center Grove and see if

477
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Speaker 6: they can do it again. The other game I would say,

478
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Speaker 6: of you know, probably equal interest would be Carmel and

479
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 6: Warren Central. You know, after seeing Warren Central last week,

480
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 6: really was impressed with them offensively scored forty two points

481
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 6: in the first half against l N and then you know,

482
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 6: weren't able to stop Ellen in the second half. But

483
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Speaker 6: I think a team that you know is just going

484
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Speaker 6: to get better and better. A lot of those guys

485
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Speaker 6: coming back next year as well, so it seemed to

486
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Speaker 6: be on the right track there. Of course, Carmel we've

487
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Speaker 6: talked about a lot with what they've done this year,

488
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Speaker 6: so I think that'll be a really interesting game as well.

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Speaker 6: You know, some of the others, I would say, probably

490
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Speaker 6: Whiteland and Plainfield I think will be a good one.

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Speaker 6: Let's see stared at Try West. Both those teams six

492
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Speaker 6: and one fishers in Westfield, both those teams five and two.

493
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Speaker 6: So there's there's several that have definitely intrigued tonight in

494
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Speaker 6: week eight.

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Speaker 1: You know when you Kyle look at a week and

496
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Speaker 1: I think it was a week ago, right when Center

497
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Speaker 1: Grove was with Cathedral. Was that last Friday?

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was last Friday.

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Speaker 1: You know that obviously. Did we learn more in that

500
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Speaker 1: game about in Cathedral? We've talked about this each year. Cathedral,

501
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: we'll drop a few early because they really test themselves

502
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Speaker 1: and then they seem to kind of right the ship

503
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Speaker 1: and go through. Did we learn more last week about

504
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Speaker 1: Cathedral or Center Grove?

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Speaker 6: Well, I probably Cathedral, I would say, just because you know,

506
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 6: they were defensively, they're they always seem to play better

507
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 6: as the year goes along. Center Grove was dealing with

508
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: some a lot of injuries unfortunately, and it's all not all,

509
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 6: but a lot of them at the same position. At

510
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 6: running back. You know Ricky Laying again, they he was

511
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Speaker 6: a sophomore who had been playing really well. He went

512
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Speaker 6: out last week. So it's been kind of a rotating

513
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 6: door at running back for Center Grove. And that's not

514
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Speaker 6: to say you know, Cathedral didn't play really well. They did,

515
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, I think they're going to be

516
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Speaker 6: a handful. I can't wait to see what. You know,

517
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 6: the sexual draw is going to come out and we'll

518
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Speaker 6: find out when you know, Cathedral could potentially play a

519
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 6: new pal. You know, that'll be one of the more

520
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 6: interesting things Sunday when the draw comes out.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean Center Grove I think is still going to be fine.

523
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Speaker 6: They they you know, they just statistically actually played pretty

524
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Speaker 6: well Friday, but just could not you know, you know,

525
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 6: they're down that game eighteen to nothing at one point,

526
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Speaker 6: so just hard to overcome. You know, they had a

527
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 6: lot of sacks, a lot of things that just come

528
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 6: with negative against them, and a lot of.

529
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Speaker 3: That's because of Cathedral.

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Speaker 6: But man, it's just been you know, when you can't

531
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Speaker 6: keep your your rotating door of running backs healthy, and

532
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 6: they lost Drake mcclergy, who was their top receiver. So

533
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Speaker 6: it's just been kind of a you know, unfortunately, kind

534
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 6: of an injury plague season that a lot of the

535
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 6: same position. But I still think, you know, they still have,

536
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: you know, some good players obviously on that offensive side

537
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 6: of the ball and the defense it's really veteran and good.

538
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 6: So I think they're still going to be a big

539
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 6: problem as a tournament moves forward. But honestly, watching that

540
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: score the other night, I'm like, man, Cathedral, you know,

541
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 6: they may have something for New pal and we'll see.

542
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Speaker 6: I mean that that'll be I think the game of

543
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Speaker 6: the year in five A when that game does happen.

544
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 6: And you know, but I think I think, to me,

545
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Speaker 6: that said a lot about Cathedral to win that game.

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Speaker 2: Who's the biggest surprise of the year.

547
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Speaker 6: I mean probably, I mean from a standpoint of what

548
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 6: they did last year, probably Carmel.

549
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Speaker 2: Uh legit, aren't they? Yeah?

550
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Speaker 6: I mean, I I put this in my Monday column,

551
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 6: but I'm not sure you know they in all credit

552
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 6: to Brownsburg is number one defending champ have done nothing

553
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 6: to lose that spot. But I mean the Carmel Brownsburg game,

554
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 6: I don't know who you'd pick. I mean, they, I

555
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 6: think they're that good, you know, and that could end

556
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 6: up being the state championship game, but you know, who knows.

557
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: We're a long way from that point.

558
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 6: But but just to do what they've done this year,

559
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: and if they close out and you know, win these

560
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 6: next two weeks and finish eight and one. They still

561
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Speaker 6: have Warren Tonight, like I said, and Lawrence Central, who's

562
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Speaker 6: kind of a sleeper good team next week.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: But if they finish eight and one and their only

565
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 6: losses to Louisville Trinity, I mean, who would have saw

566
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 6: that coming out?

567
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Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody you know would have thought that.

568
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Speaker 3: Now they don't play.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's some teams that you know, they'll go

570
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Speaker 6: back into the mixed schedule next year and they'll play,

571
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 6: you know, teams like Center Grove again, which they did

572
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 6: and play this year, and you know Lawrence North, which

573
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 6: they didn't play this year. So the schedule will be

574
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 6: different next year. But still to go through in B

575
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: six and one and look really good in accumulating that

576
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 6: record is to me, that's been a little bit of

577
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Speaker 6: a surprise. And I think even you know Kevin, right,

578
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 6: I don't think it would be surprised necessarily, but I

579
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Speaker 6: remember talking to him before the season. He didn't know

580
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 6: for sure how good this team would be. So I think,

581
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 6: to me, that's kind of been the one of the

582
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Speaker 6: big stories of the season so far.

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, look, I've known Kevin a long time,

584
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Speaker 1: so maybe I'm biased here, but when you look at

585
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Speaker 1: the resources at Carmel combined with the enrollment of Carmel

586
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: and then the fact that this guy's won everywhere he's gone, essentially,

587
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: it's one of those Kyle, is it not, where you

588
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: almost look back and go, how did we not see

589
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Speaker 1: that that was going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, And I feel kind of you know,

592
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Speaker 6: even calling Carmel's surprise sounds stupid on the surface, but

593
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Speaker 6: and I definitely thought he would get it going there

594
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Speaker 6: and looking honestly, looking at what they you know, the

595
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 6: talent that they had coming back, you know, it did

596
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 6: look promising. But I'd be lying if I if I

597
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 6: said I expected this. And even the first couple of

598
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 6: weeks of the season when they played Fishers in Westfield,

599
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 6: you know, those are really good teams that they handled easily.

600
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Speaker 6: Both those teams are ranked in the top ten, and

601
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 6: you know have gone on to have really good seasons.

602
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Speaker 6: And I think Westfield Willy, you know, if those teams

603
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 6: play again, I think that game will be closer. I

604
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 6: really like the job Josh Miracle does there at Westfield,

605
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: and I think they're a team that's kind of trending

606
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 6: in the right direction since that loss, so you know,

607
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 6: we'll see if in the rematch I think would be

608
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 6: a better game. But but yeah, I mean to the

609
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 6: extent of, you know, I think we all knew is

610
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 6: all right, well, Kevin Wright's going to get it going there.

611
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: But to say I thought it would be this quickly.

612
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 6: You know that that would probably be you know, overstating it.

613
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: So I had these these Obviously it's really clicked there

614
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 6: and it's worked right away.

615
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Speaker 1: Kyle, When will we get into Kyle Nenrip is my

616
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: guest from the Indianapolstar. He's on the Joba House Peel

617
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: and poor guest line, when will we get into Kyle

618
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: high school basketball? And some of your previews? And I

619
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: know that sounds crazy, but I mean we're in mid

620
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: October already, right and before we know it, we're gonna

621
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Speaker 1: start talking about tournaments and things like that.

622
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 6: No, yeah, for sure, we'll have actually was getting our

623
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 6: photo shoots set just yesterday, so getting all that lined

624
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: up for the next there'll be in a couple of

625
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 6: weeks and then you know, we'll get right into it

626
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 6: basically once you know, once November hits. I can't remember

627
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: the exact practice started practice actual practice states.

628
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: But that that's probably about you know what.

629
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 6: Three weeks three, a little more than three weeks out,

630
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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's not it's not far away. November is

631
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 6: a crazy month where you know, the crossover of football

632
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 6: and basketball can drive you crazy basically up through Thanksgiving weekend.

633
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 6: But but yeah, it'll be you know, we'll have a

634
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: lot of coverage coming and I look forward to it

635
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 6: every year. I kind of you know, there's always these

636
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 6: football stories I want to make sure I get to

637
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 6: as well. So it's it's a little bit of a

638
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 6: juggling act, but yeah, it's it's it's coming right around

639
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: the corner for sure. And you know, by by early October,

640
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 6: it's definitely something that's on my radar, trying to get

641
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 6: things planned and lined up, uh for our for our season.

642
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Speaker 1: You know, you had your article which was awesome on

643
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: just like some of the lost and the old and

644
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: the historic gems of Indiana in that same capacity, give

645
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Speaker 1: me your best, Give me your best two to three.

646
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Maybe not even by size and volume and like fandom, tailgate,

647
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 1: et cetera, but maybe just neighborhood or whatever it might be.

648
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: Give me your two to three best high school football

649
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: experiences in Central.

650
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: Indiana experience as far as stadiums.

651
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Speaker 2: Go, all of it.

652
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all things and all things considered. So Friday night lights,

653
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: it calls you up and they say, look, we're gonna

654
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: we're doing a documentary on high school football in Indiana,

655
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: and we want one that just shows a big stadium aerial,

656
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: and then we want another one that just shows great

657
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: atmosphere and neighborhood loyalty, et cetera.

658
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, that's a that's a great question, I would say. Man,

659
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 6: I was, Yeah, I've been to some good ones. One

660
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 6: of my favorite experiences, and they don't play games there anymore.

661
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 6: It was at Arlington when and this is probably not

662
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 6: a great memory for Center Grove people who thought the

663
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 6: game should have been played elsewhere. But I think it

664
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 6: was twenty twenty or twenty one when they played that

665
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 6: Mud Bowl game and the just the you know, the

666
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: field was just complete mess and the tailgate, you know,

667
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 6: the tailgateing Cathedral was doing, and and Center Grove people

668
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 6: it just felt like such a huge.

669
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 3: Huge game.

670
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 6: And I think even I don't know if this is

671
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: right or not, but there might have been a Sunday

672
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 6: night you know they Sunday night they show those games

673
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: on NBC, and I don't know if that was the

674
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 6: game that they showed, but I remember I'm showing one

675
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 6: of those one of those games Cathedral played. But you know,

676
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: that's one that always Unfortunately, you know, Arlington's not hosting

677
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 6: games anymore there, and it wasn't even necessarily the place

678
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: it was, but just the mud situation and the two

679
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: teams playing against each other made that one super memorable,

680
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 6: you know, And I ended up I cover a lot

681
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: of larger school games, so you may not have the

682
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 6: small town atmosphere, but I think I always think Center

683
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 6: Grove does a great job. I mean that always feels

684
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: like a big time atmosphere. You know Brownsburg now, I

685
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 6: would say, you know, having been there one game this year,

686
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 6: was that feels like a big time you know John

687
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 6: Hard and Brownsburg there, he compared it to kind of

688
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: a Texas you know experience. Now I can't, I can't

689
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 6: say I've been to games in Texas, but it certainly

690
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: has that big, big game atmosphere to it now. But

691
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 6: you know, those are a couple that come to mind.

692
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 6: I would say there was a game I covered, Try

693
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 6: West and Gibson Southern. It was more about the Gibson

694
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 6: Southern people being there. But man, they they really showed

695
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: out and they were they had the campers and the

696
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 6: you know, the the hot dogs and hamburgers grilled out there.

697
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 6: That that was a really cool atmosphere. But yeah, that's

698
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 6: a good That's I'd have to go through my all

699
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 6: my experiences and maybe narrow that down. That's a that's

700
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 6: a good story idea.

701
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got some it's just you know, they're

702
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: even going so far as and I'm not even sure

703
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: to your point, like with Arlington if they play still

704
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: games where I'm about to mention, but the old Indianapolis

705
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: How High School, like the stadium in the back was

706
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: kind of nestled like in this region, you know what

707
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's cool like there's and there are

708
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: so many of them like that, right.

709
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, that's a good one. You know, I've

710
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 6: covered games that have it's really it's in the city,

711
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 6: but then it feels like you're in a little town

712
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 6: there when it's uh, you're kind of back in the

713
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 6: back in the trees, you know, there there are a

714
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 6: lot I mean, yeah, I'd have to kind of go

715
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: through and think about it. I did cover a game

716
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 6: up a Knox one time that was kind of a different,

717
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 6: you know, definitely different atmosphere. Yeah, the small town ones

718
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 6: are cool. I mean I've covered a lot of those too,

719
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 6: but sometimes those are the best. You know, New pal

720
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 6: Has are really you know, they have a good you know,

721
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 6: when it's playoff time and they're hosting that, it feels

722
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 6: like a really big time atmosphere. The different thing about

723
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 6: football is the actual stadiums a lot of times aren't

724
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 6: as unique as you might see in basketball, but the

725
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 6: overall experiences can be certainly a memories.

726
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Usually like whatever's around this, you know, it's usually just

727
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: a couple of bleachers, right, but it's whatever's around the

728
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: stadium that makes it cool. Tonight, by the way, the

729
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: other school that we always mentioned, Crystal House, will be

730
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: taken on per New Englewood. That is a seven o'clock

731
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: start as well. Kyle, tell me again which game you

732
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: will be in attendance.

733
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 6: I'll be down at Center Grove tonight for Lawrence North.

734
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 6: It should be two top ten teams and should be

735
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: a really good game. Pat Mallory used to coach for

736
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 6: Eric More at Center growth, So those guys are really close,

737
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 6: and you know it should be it should be a

738
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 6: fun game, all right.

739
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: We will look over to it and we will see

740
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: all of the coverage, of course in the Indianapolis Star.

741
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Pleasure as always, Kyle, you bet, thanks, Jake, Kyle neednrup

742
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: joining us on the Java House Peel and poor guest

743
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: line we come back. We'll get you back up to

744
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: speed on who's and and who's out for the Colts

745
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, and Mike de Corsi joins us just

746
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: fifteen from now. By the way, I do feel compelled

747
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: to tell everybody this when when you see the website,

748
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: the station website that goes out with all of our

749
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: score predictions and things like that, those they ask for

750
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: us that before we have any idea who's playing.

751
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Right, they's put out in the tweet as well. Jake,

752
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: Don't worry. They did put that disclaimer, don't they.

753
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that's the I do that pick

754
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: up I told you about with my buddies. And you

755
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: have to have the problem with that is you have

756
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: to on the website that we do that on. You

757
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: have to have them all in before the Thursday night game. Kicks,

758
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there are like seventy percent of the games

759
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You're like, I have no idea who's starting

760
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: for half of these teams right, kind of like Baltimore.

761
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Lamar Jackson and like half a

762
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: dozen other players out.

763
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: And it's that is a huge difference within those games.

764
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: You just turned Kansas. We have tickets to give away

765
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: for Kansas. Let's get you real quick caught up on

766
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Cardinals. Kyler Murray if you are

767
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: just joining us on the program. Kyle Murray is practicing

768
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: now for the Arizona Cardinals. He has not practiced this week.

769
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: He's got a boo boo on his foot, but he

770
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: is practicing today. One would assume that may mean that

771
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: he is available for Arizona on Sunday. If he is

772
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: not able to go, it will be Jacoby.

773
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: Brissett who said to Jake that they'll evaluate Kyler Murray

774
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: and see how it feels today and then after the

775
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: flight tomorrow to Indianapolis, and that will ultimately decide if

776
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: he can suit up or not against the Colts Sunday.

777
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: As for the Colts, Alec Pierce is practicing and he

778
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: is I guess you would say trending in the right

779
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: direction to come out of concussion protocol, but that is

780
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: one that still they will assess after the practice. Grover

781
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Stewart back on the practice field. He has a bicep injury.

782
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: Taekwon Lewis did not practice yesterday due to an illness,

783
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: but he and Braden Smith, both who did not practice,

784
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I think are expected to be able to go this weekend.

785
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: Now let's get back to the Kansas tickets, Eddie. This

786
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: is taking place when tonight. How about that tonight? Okay,

787
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: so tonight now.

788
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: The everwise amphitheater.

789
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: So give me the protocol in terms of how one

790
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: picks up said tickets and how one wins said tickets.

791
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: Well, they have to call in to the station first three, one, seven, two, nine, ten, seventy,

792
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 2: and then we'll determine how we want to give away

793
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: said tickets. These tickets will be emailed to you, so

794
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: you have to be on the lookout checking your emails.

795
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: Specifically the spam and I'm not talking about the can

796
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: of food either.

797
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: I do like the spam can of food as we

798
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: talked about earlier this week. It's been a long time

799
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: since I've had spam. Right, there's your dinner idea for whenever.

800
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: Shannon Lee, she's in Denver right now. By the way,

801
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: tell me if tell me if I should be offended

802
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: by this?

803
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: You ready? Okay?

804
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: You let me know if I should be offended by this.

805
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: So Shannon is already in Denver, it's her hometown. We're

806
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: going to see McCartney tomorrow night. And my flight lands

807
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: tonight at ten o'clock Denver time. And Shannon said, do

808
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: you mind if if you get an uber?

809
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: Like?

810
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: Wait? What her?

811
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: She has two brothers, two nephews whatever that live there,

812
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: and like, should I be offended by that? I get it.

813
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: It's ten o'clock at night and the Denver Airport is

814
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: literally like forty five minutes from Denver. But I'm curious

815
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: if I should be offended. I've been like, I'm a

816
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: professional airport picker. Upper right, what do you think any

817
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: should should I be a it's a professional uber?

818
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 2: Yes?

819
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: So then it's like, oh, by the way, like I'm

820
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: gonna just just go ahead and get an uber.

821
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: I'll pay for it. What am I am?

822
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: I off bay here? Or is that like the way

823
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: we are in twenty twenty five? I guess that's the

824
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: way we are in twenty twenty five. You want to

825
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: do one of our favorite Oh my goodness, Jake, I

826
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: don't want to say our favorite. It's not our favorite.

827
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: It's the kids. They love this game. We've done a

828
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: lot of research on get to Know Your Listener, and

829
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: kids do, in fact love it.

830
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: I believe it's Rod. Is that correct?

831
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: Rod?

832
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: At two thir nine, ten seventy for a little get

833
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: to know your listener?

834
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: How are you? Rod?

835
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Rod apparently didn't didn't like us?

836
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: Wow?

837
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: Rod is apparently like Shannon picking me up at the airport,

838
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found?

839
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: Right? Should I be offended by that? She's with our family,

840
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: rights with you all the time.

841
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's ten o'clock at night, Like, what are

842
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: they doing at ten? I mean she's like, we're going

843
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: to dinner. I'm okay at seven?

844
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: What are you landing? Ten o'clock Denver time?

845
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeh, Mountain time, Yes, midnight our time.

846
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

847
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to get a newber, you know. I

848
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: thought it'd be fun to have her pick me up

849
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: and show me around.

850
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: Do we have a winner?

851
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: Two two nine ten seventy is the telephone number if

852
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: you would like to see Kansas. This is for tonight.

853
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: Do we just want to do this blind? This show?

854
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: This is taking place.

855
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Where Eddie Everwise Amphitheater, Everywise Ampitheater Downtown, and it is

856
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: going to be a perfect night, a perfect night downtown.

857
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: It'll be the weather's going to be great. That venue,

858
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: especially since they have renovated it and upgraded it is

859
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: fantastic and it will be an awesome show. But for tonight,

860
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to be available for

861
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the show tonight. Two three, nine, ten seventy is the

862
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: telephone number we are doing. What number callers on this.

863
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take those two that we got on

864
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: hold right now. I don't know their names yet, okay,

865
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: but we have two pairs to give a wing. Those

866
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: only two people say.

867
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: Two pairs or two pairs? Two pairs.

868
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Speaker 1: Course is with the Sporting News. He has an interesting

869
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: article about pretty basketball, Braden Smith, Matt Painter and the

870
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: key to success. We will talk with him, maybe even

871
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: ask him about his Steelers, and we will get the

872
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: rest of you set up for Kansas next. Kenny Moore

873
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: is out for Sunday, so no Kenny Moore for the

874
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Colt says that attrition continues within their defensive backfield. That

875
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: is the one thing that has been consistent for the

876
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: Colts so far among others in this season, is the

877
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: fact that they have just been hit with injuries in

878
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: that area of their roster. Speaking of consistency, it is

879
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: that and more that has carried Purdue basketball for the

880
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: better part of the Matt Paynter tenure. Mike de Corsi is,

881
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: of course a friend of the show, joins us now

882
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: on the Java House, Peel and Poor Guest line. He

883
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: has an article on the Sporting News produced Braiden Smith

884
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: can become the all time NCAA Assists Champion, but he

885
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: wants a different NCAA title.

886
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: Mike.

887
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: It is a really good piece about Braiden Smith, and

888
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you on to discuss this, and

889
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: you could certainly tell me that I'm wrong here, I think,

890
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know how long it sustains. But what

891
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Purdue has been able to do in terms of keeping

892
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: continuity and chemistry from one year to the next of

893
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: roster for the most part and the trains for nil

894
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Era is truly, I think, almost special. Now, am I

895
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: overstating that?

896
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: No, I don't think at all.

897
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: I think that what's interesting is that Matt talked about

898
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: this yesterday in his address at Big Ten Media Day,

899
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: and he talked about how there is a common narrative

900
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 4: I guess you'd call it. That's for me narrative now

901
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: has been defined as something that a lot of people

902
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: believe that isn't really one hundred percent true. And the

903
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: narrative about Purdue is that they don't lose transfers on

904
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: the way out, like that the door only swings one way.

905
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: And he says that's not true. He says, but we

906
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: don't lose starters. And I thought that was a really

907
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: interesting concept. I mean, not far from then from where

908
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 4: he was sitting when he was talking about that, Chad

909
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: Baker Mazara was sitting over there representing USC and he

910
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: was in the final four year ago with Auburn. That

911
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: that wouldn't happen at Purdue hasn't happened. I mean, they

912
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 4: did lose players off of last season's team, and probably

913
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: understandably so. They had a couple of very capable, promising

914
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: players that just couldn't get the run that they thought

915
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: they were capable of, that they might have been capable of,

916
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: and if you look at.

917
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: In last year's situation. I mean, you saw.

918
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: Miles Colvin average eighteen minutes a game, cam Heidi averaged twenty.

919
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: And the limitation on their time wasn't totally.

920
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: On them. It wasn't totally on Matt.

921
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: It's just the way this line work best.

922
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: Those guys didn't quite fit in.

923
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 4: Neither of them took a huge step forward to either

924
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: take down Fletcher Lawyer or perhaps at least shove their

925
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: way onto the same court, and so they went off

926
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 4: searching for more playing time. But that they don't. This

927
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: team now, even with the loss of two very capable,

928
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: promising wings, looks demonstrably better entering the twenty sixth season.

929
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: You know, I remember a couple of years ago, Mike,

930
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: and I know that this is not sustainable what I'm

931
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: about to say, But I've told the story before, and

932
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the name of the player.

933
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: But several years ago I was up at a Purdue

934
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: practice and I was talking to not Matt Painter, but

935
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: members of the staff about a player that I was

936
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: surprised wasn't in the mix with Purdue in the recruiting process.

937
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: And they said, well, paint was pretty clear about the

938
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: fact that he felt that was a kid that would

939
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: have been a handout kid, you know, wanting this was

940
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: pre inil, right, so just a player that was a

941
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: little too individualized of need. And I was impressed by

942
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: that because sometimes talent is impossible to just bypass on

943
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: if you don't believe that, like the total mold of

944
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: character is there of what you need. The reason I

945
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: bring that up is because is it possible that part

946
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: of why we're seeing this continuity at Purdue is because

947
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: they have this vetting system of what works for their

948
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: fabric more so than other programs might do.

949
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: Not just possible.

950
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: It's on the record, fact, Jake, I think it was

951
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. I'm pretty sure that's the year again, back

952
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: to Big Ten media days when they did them a

953
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: little differently and every coach would come into to the

954
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: room in the morning and give his fifteen minutes or

955
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: so and then take questions whatever it was. And I

956
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: remember this as well as just about anything in covering

957
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: college basketball.

958
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: Matt came in.

959
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: They were coming off a losing season. I think they'd

960
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: finished last or close to last in the Big Ten

961
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: that year, which was obviously coming from the humble era,

962
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: as those of us who are friends with Robbie like

963
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 4: to call it.

964
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: That.

965
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 4: Coming off that and going toward the bottom of the

966
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 4: league was really jarring. And Matt got up there at

967
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: Big ten Media Day and said that it was on

968
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: him that from that point on he was going to

969
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 4: recruit not talent necessarily, not that the guys he's bringing

970
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: in aren't talented, but not specifically and only talent, but

971
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: he was going to recruit Purdue talent, so to speak.

972
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: So he was going to bring in guys that were

973
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: going to fit into what they did, who were going

974
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: to be happy with how they were coached when they

975
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: didn't play, when they did play what they If they

976
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: were told what they need need to do to get

977
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: better to play, than they would be amenable to that.

978
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: And from that point on they have been an NCAA

979
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: tournament team. They have been on multiple occasions Final four contenders,

980
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: and in twenty twenty three and probably again this year,

981
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: they were National Championship contenders.

982
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: Which do you think, Mike Matt Painter, These are both

983
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: skills he is very good at. Okay, so don't think

984
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to But if you had to pick

985
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: the thing that he does better than his peers, which

986
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: more so is does he stand out in a seeing

987
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: talent that perhaps other schools don't see, or and therefore

988
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: knowing that they are going to be a piece to

989
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: the puzzle, or b making and coming up with the

990
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: proper game plans. Once he has the talent assembled and

991
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: coming up with ways to win with the roster, he's

992
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: able to accumulate.

993
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm going to say the former, because it's more important.

994
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: Getting players who were talented and team oriented and that

995
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: will respond to you is more important than being the smartest,

996
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 4: best strategist. I don't think that. I mean, I don't

997
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: think I'm insulting him to say that. Mike Krzyzewsky, while

998
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 4: the greatest college coach in history, was not the greatest

999
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: strategist in history.

1000
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 3: Wasn't bad at it. Don't get me wrong, but it wasn't.

1001
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: His superpower was getting talented players to play, as he

1002
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: describes it, like a fist five fingers that if you

1003
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 4: slap somebody, it doesn't hurt as much as if you

1004
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: punch him, so to speak.

1005
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: And that was his superpower as a coach.

1006
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: He got them to play together and to communicate on

1007
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: the floor so that they so that they didn't necessarily need.

1008
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: Him as much.

1009
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: And so, you know, yeah, Bobby Hurley and Grant Hill

1010
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: out there, as long as they're doing what they've been

1011
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: coached to do, you know, got to call a lot

1012
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 4: of plays.

1013
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: And the great example that I looked back.

1014
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: At this story when I was working on the on

1015
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: the Braden article because I spoke to Bobby Hurley was

1016
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: right there in Indianapolis. The three pointer he made with

1017
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: two and change left against UNLV when his team was

1018
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: down five and looked like they might be out of it.

1019
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: Now they're down two, because he made the decision on

1020
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: his own to take it.

1021
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: He didn't need Mike.

1022
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: He was he knew what he knew, what he'd learned

1023
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 4: from his dad, he knew what he'd learned from from

1024
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 4: from Mike, and he saw a defensive change and he said,

1025
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: there's an opening here for me to take a shot.

1026
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to.

1027
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: Shoot it and make it, and he did and they

1028
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: ended up winning that game in one of the great

1029
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: Final Four upsets ever. So that's that's really the more

1030
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 4: important element of it. He is an excellent strategist, Matt.

1031
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 4: He is really good at finding offenses that work for

1032
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: the players that he has, but the most important thing

1033
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 4: is getting really good players to execute strategies.

1034
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: Mike de COURSEI is our guest. Of course, he is

1035
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel Important Guest linesporting news dot Com,

1036
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: where you can read his work. Mike, it seems like,

1037
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, college basketball is college football like I love.

1038
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm not certain that I

1039
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: don't now love college football even more so or as

1040
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: much as the NFL. It's not a slight on the NFL.

1041
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I just really love college football and college

1042
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: basketball I've always loved and then when people started talking

1043
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: about tournament tournament expansion, and there was always questions, you know,

1044
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: with the portal and free agency, if you will, I

1045
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: think there were people that thought it was doomsday and

1046
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: college basketball was done as we know it. Where do

1047
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: we stand? Like once the dust settles on all of this, I'm.

1048
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 4: Really worried about what will happen if they expand the

1049
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 4: NCAA tournament. A lot of people, Oh, you're going to

1050
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: ruin the tournament.

1051
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: No you're not.

1052
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 4: I mean, if if you're one of those people, and

1053
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 4: there are a lot of them out there, if you

1054
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: if you say to somebody would you refer sixty eight

1055
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: or seventy two or seventy six? I did at Twitter

1056
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: pol exactly that several months ago. The people who answer

1057
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: sixty sixty eight often will then said, we really only.

1058
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: Need sixty four.

1059
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 4: Those people will always turn on the tournament at noon

1060
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: on Thursday. They will not ever watch whatever you put

1061
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 4: unless it's their team. Indiana on some occasions has been

1062
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 4: in those games Carolina last year. Unless it's their team.

1063
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: They're not turning on the television on Tuesday or Wednesday.

1064
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 4: They're turning it on when the sixty four goes up.

1065
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 4: So you're not going to damage the tournament. What you're

1066
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 4: going to damage is the college basketball regular season, which

1067
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: a large part of the media, of very loud voices

1068
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: in the media that have huge platforms already tell you

1069
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Oh, it's a one month sport. You

1070
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: hear it all the time, not in Indiana very often

1071
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 4: unless you're turning on somebody national, But that's what they say.

1072
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: And if you go to putting seventy six teams in

1073
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 4: the field, there's a very then we start to take

1074
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 4: the boat toward toward them being right.

1075
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: And I don't want that.

1076
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 4: I love the college basketball regular season. It's entertaining, it's invigorating,

1077
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: and there is great suspense. Think about, especially the people

1078
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 4: who are listening to me now, Think about what it

1079
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 4: was like in the last two weeks of last season

1080
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: when Ohio State, Nebraska, and Indiana all had a chance

1081
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 4: to get in and all happened to be playing in

1082
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: like a triangular thing. They one played one, one played

1083
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: the other, then they played and it all went around

1084
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: in a circle or a triangle or whatever, and it

1085
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 4: was really something. And that will be gone like that

1086
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: will be that sort of triangle will be contested among

1087
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: teams that aren't very good at all, I mean at all.

1088
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 3: There's always a bubble.

1089
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 4: But when you get that bubble to be teams that

1090
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: really aren't any good. I mean, Indiana was pretty good

1091
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: last year, just not good enough. Nebraska saying Ohio State same.

1092
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 4: They all had efficiencies. They almost got there, and they

1093
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 4: probably you know, you could make the case for any

1094
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: of them, Nebraska not after they missed a Big Ten tournament.

1095
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 4: If you could make a case for Ohio State or

1096
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: Indiana that they could have.

1097
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 3: Been, but they probably didn't deserve it. And that's what

1098
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 3: we want.

1099
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: We want to like the way I describe it is

1100
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: like should a Deans should it like a B minus

1101
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 4: average be a Deans list student, just to make everybody

1102
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 4: feel better.

1103
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Well, and my thing is this, Mike, and tell me

1104
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: if you agree with this. If the NCAA tournament wants

1105
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: to expand you know, the seventy two, seventy four cities

1106
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: at whatever, okay, fine, But I would hope that in

1107
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: doing so, it is to allow the twenty eight and

1108
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: three College of Charleston that got upset in the first

1109
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: round of their conference tournament to still give them an

1110
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: at large. If we're doing this in order to include

1111
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: more seventeen and sixteen Minnesota's, okay, that doesn't do.

1112
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: Anything to happen. That's what's going to happen.

1113
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 4: Because I know the science of the bracket. I mean,

1114
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I've perfected it, but I've been doing

1115
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: this for Fox Sports now for six years. We only

1116
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: had a tournament in five but for six years, and

1117
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 4: some of my brackets have scored very high.

1118
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: So I have a good idea of what is next.

1119
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that there aren't there aren't a

1120
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 4: team or here, here or there that we'll be able

1121
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 4: to get in that wouldn't have under the old formula.

1122
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 4: But if you really, like I was at Atlantic ten

1123
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 4: Media Day, they had it here in Pittsburgh. It's the

1124
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: fiftieth anniversary of the Atlantic ten at fiftieth anniversary season,

1125
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: so this is where the league began, so they brought.

1126
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: Media day here.

1127
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: They're bringing the tournament here in March, and there's a

1128
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: lot of consternation there. But the problem that they have

1129
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: isn't that they're not being evaluated properly.

1130
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: In the end.

1131
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: The problem that they have is that they're not able

1132
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: to schedule in the way that would be reasonable, especially

1133
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: with the advent of this player's era of stuff in Vegas,

1134
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: and it's become even harder for them to get on

1135
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: a neutral floor in Maui or the Bahamas or Charleston,

1136
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: South Carolina or wherever with teams at the high major level,

1137
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: and so it becomes sort of exclusionary on that sense.

1138
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: But they're not going to get in now because they

1139
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 4: change the formula. At the end, it's just going to

1140
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: be more teams from the Big ten, SEC ACC Big twelve,

1141
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: And I mean even Tony Patiti said yesterday that the

1142
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: reason that the league supports it. The Big Ten supports it.

1143
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 4: Is that with the size of the league, there is

1144
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: concern about whether or not there are enough bids available

1145
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: for the expanded major conferences. I mean, from that standpoint,

1146
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 4: you got fourteen out of sixteen in the SEC last year.

1147
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: If you're good enough, they're going to put you in.

1148
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: It's that simple. And the ACC hasn't been good enough.

1149
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 4: They talk a good game on media Day in the ACC,

1150
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: but then they don't back it up in non conference play.

1151
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 4: The SEC tore through non conference play last year and

1152
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: got all the bids they deserved. If the Big Ten

1153
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: does that this year, and there's a good chance that's

1154
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: going to happen, they'll get all the bids they deserve.

1155
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: Mike, do we have any idea yet, Mike de COURSI

1156
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: is my guest from Sporting News.

1157
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: You know, I know this.

1158
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: I know Indiana just played obviously, Darren Devrees took his

1159
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: guys down, played some exhibition games, and by all account

1160
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: he is a very likable guy. I don't know a

1161
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: lot about him. I don't know much about their roster

1162
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: other than the fact also that it looks like they

1163
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: could start the year out with four guys coming off

1164
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: of injury. What do we know or what do you

1165
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: feel about Indiana coming into this season.

1166
00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Darren is a he really built

1167
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: toward this. I mean, he spent gosh almost two decades

1168
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: coaching with two of the great minds in college basketball.

1169
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: While at Creighton, first Dana Altman uh and then uh

1170
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 4: and Ben mac McDermott. He he coached under two of

1171
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 4: the best, and then he got his break at Drake

1172
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 4: and he never didn't succeed. And then he went to

1173
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 4: West Virginia and even with a very injured roster, including

1174
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 4: his son Tucker is now a Hoosier, they still were

1175
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: probably were They were the one team that last year

1176
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 4: had a legit claim to we really should have been

1177
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: in There was there were there were marks against them,

1178
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 4: but they had a legit shot that they could have

1179
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: been in to Sesay Carolina. But he so he has

1180
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 4: done a really good coaching job every chance he's had.

1181
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: And so I think that you have to feel like

1182
01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 4: at Indiana you have somebody who understands the game at

1183
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 4: a high level.

1184
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: Now he's going to have to get.

1185
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: The recruiting back to where say it was under Arch

1186
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: or maybe early early under Mike Woodson, they had some

1187
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 4: really good recruiting circumstances, and then also you have to

1188
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: be shrewd in the transfer portal. I think he did

1189
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 4: a good job with some of the guys he brought in.

1190
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: Connor in Wright, for instance, did a really nice job

1191
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 4: at The Paul.

1192
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: Last year.

1193
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: They actually won some games at some Big East games

1194
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 4: at the Paul.

1195
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: Connor was a part of that.

1196
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 4: So I think it's it's not going to be an

1197
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: immediate fix, but they will be. They will play good

1198
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: basketball under degrees and I think that in very short

1199
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 4: order next year, the year after, you'll start to see

1200
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: the rewards for investing in the higher I think he

1201
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: wants to embrace being the Indiana coach. I always wondered

1202
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: about Art. I've known archs for twenty years, twenty five years,

1203
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 4: because we're both Pittsburgh people and and so I always

1204
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 4: wondered about whether that part of it, the public part

1205
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: of it, would work for him. And I convinced myself

1206
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: after his press conference, Okay, it can work. And then

1207
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 4: the next couple of years you could see that it

1208
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 4: really just wasn't for him, and.

1209
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it was ever for him.

1210
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: For Mike Woodson. It just he never connected with that,

1211
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 4: and I think Darren understands that. You do you take

1212
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: on the Indiana job, you have to inhabit that part

1213
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 4: of it as well. If you think you can just

1214
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: go hide in the gym and X and O all day,

1215
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: it's never gonna work. And I liked what he said

1216
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: at his press conference in Chicago yesterday. He was He

1217
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: was very bright and engaging and answered every question and

1218
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 4: seemed to embrace the role. I'm not gonna say he's

1219
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: John Calipari in that sense, but I think he understands it,

1220
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 4: and I think he can fulfill.

1221
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: That part of it.

1222
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 4: I have zero doubt about fulfilling the basketball part of it,

1223
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 4: and then it's just a question of the recruiting part

1224
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 4: is the third element, and I suspect they'll find a

1225
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: way to do that. Even in times when Mike was

1226
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: not not excelling, he still was able to bring.

1227
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 3: In some talent.

1228
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned, Mike de COURSI that you are a

1229
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh guy. So I cannot let you go without asking this.

1230
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: Because Indianapolis is off to a surprising start obviously at

1231
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: four and one, I think we can say the cults

1232
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: are pretty good. And then you start looking around the

1233
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: AFC at teams that you know maybe are in that

1234
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: same mix of a little bit better or in a

1235
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: better situation than we thought. Is Pittsburgh legitimately good in

1236
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: that AFC North or are that the beneficiary of two

1237
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: teams in Cincinnati and Baltimore that have had injury hold

1238
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: them back.

1239
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: Well, they haven't been beneficiary of that yet. I think

1240
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: they would like to get on there.

1241
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: I just mean in leading the division.

1242
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I'm just was going to make a

1243
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: Lamar joke, but yeah, I mean, I think they'd like

1244
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 4: to have a chance to be the beneficiary of.

1245
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 7: Not having to play against Lamar, is what I was

1246
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 7: going to say, because he's amazing.

1247
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 4: They have not played well yet, except for the Vikings

1248
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 4: game in Ireland when they were quite good. So they

1249
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: appear to be.

1250
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: On an upwear trend. But they'll have a very difficult.

1251
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: Game on Sunday. I know, you look at it, three

1252
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 4: and one Steelers, one in four Browns. What's hard about that?

1253
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 4: If you've watched the Browns, you understand it's not as

1254
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: simple as it seems. It's an outstanding defense, maybe the

1255
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: best defense in the league, and you have to be

1256
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 4: ready to play against that. I think the Steelers can

1257
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: get very good. I think they can, but their offensive

1258
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 4: line has to get much better than it's been and

1259
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: it's a process. They won't resolve that all in a week.

1260
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 4: But it's possible that they could feel really good about

1261
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 4: themselves by the time Indy gets here. It's also possible

1262
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 4: that they could go the opposite direction. But if it

1263
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 4: does go the opposite direction, they've got problems.

1264
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: November two, by the way, is that date when the

1265
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Colts will be in Pittsburgh and we will see very possible.

1266
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: Does excuse me?

1267
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: That could be I should say, two teams that might

1268
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: face one another, you know, somehow into the postseason, but

1269
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of football to be played between now and then. Mike,

1270
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it as always, great article on Braden Smith and

1271
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: the Boilers, and we certainly look forward to talking to

1272
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: you over the course of the basketball season anytime.

1273
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: Jake, always a pleasure.

1274
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Mike de Coursey joining us on the

1275
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: Java House, Peel and Poor Guest line. By the way,

1276
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: speaking of that Java House, Peel and Poor Guest line,

1277
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: we do have a pretty cool announcement coming up on Monday.

1278
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: In regards to that partnership, I'm thrilled with the partnership

1279
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: with Java House and we can tell you more about

1280
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: that coming up on Monday, which I look forward to.

1281
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: Eddie has been I noticed by the way Eddie's been

1282
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: dipping into the stash as the kids say, which one

1283
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: are we going with here today?

1284
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: Eddie? I'm going with the Wrangler Energy.

1285
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Look at you, Eddie with the sip right there.

1286
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, loving it.

1287
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: Huh oh yeah, I'm going with the Liquid Science orange

1288
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: hydration today, by the way. And Ralph Reeve, how about

1289
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: Ralph Rereef saying when we were talking about working out

1290
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: the importance of the hydration. Kevin Bowen, by the way,

1291
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: speaking of important work, has been doing exactly that out

1292
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: at Colts, the Colts Complex and practice, trying to find

1293
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: out and figure out who we're going to see on Sunday.

1294
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore we now know is out. And that is

1295
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: a position that it just feels like Eddy or like,

1296
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: what is the date going to be when the Colts

1297
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: have a defensive backfield where all of the players at

1298
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year you were hoping are on

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Speaker 1: the field together, are going to be out there.

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Speaker 2: When are the Pacers going to have a healthy point

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01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: guard room. Yeah, I mean that's that's a month at least.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have obviously ty Reese was going to

1303
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: miss the season with that torn achilles. You're bringing monte

1304
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: Morris as a training camp body to compete for that

1305
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: last roster spot. He gets injured and I'll workout two

1306
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: days later you bring in Delawn Right to replace Montey

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01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: Morris as a training camp body to compete for a

1308
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: last roster spot, in for that third point guard spot.

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01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: He has now been waived, and they bringing campaign and

1310
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: TJ McConnell goes down like it is a total be

1311
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: the McConnell injury.

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Speaker 1: Just before the show today, I was in conversation with

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Speaker 1: somebody who was saying, and I want to be very

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Speaker 1: clear here, in no way, shape or form is this

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01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: like am I being alarmist? And if we were in

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: the middle of December, probably a completely different outlook. But

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Speaker 1: I think with McConnell with this injury that he's had

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: the Pacers partially because of just the overall reality and

1319
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: expectation of where and who they are right now and

1320
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: that gap year, and I know that they don't want

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: to use that term, but the reality is that McConnell,

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that he's no longer twenty four

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Speaker 1: years old, the injury that he has, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's is it hamstring?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? Left handing.

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Speaker 1: They at least one month they're going to be And

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: that's because they're going to err on the side of

1328
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: caution because I think there is some again, not because

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01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: of anything medically specific to this situation, but just based

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: on precedent, a loan of players that are past thirty.

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: They're going to take this very delicately and take it

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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: very slowly because they are making sure that this is

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: not something that becomes recurrent with him. Not because of

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Speaker 1: his body, not because of that case, because of the

1335
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: just the nature of the way things can be. Once

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,879
Speaker 1: a player hits a certain age.

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Speaker 2: Those tissues can become issues, Jake. That's why we call

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 2: them tissue issues. You know they can breed other tissue issues.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fair, Okay, that's fair, right, Nothing soft about

1340
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: the soft tissues what you're getting at. Kevin Bowen going

1341
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: to join us, going to do it next halfway through

1342
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: the one o'clock hour in Indianapolis for that matter. Halfway

1343
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Speaker 1: through the one o'clock hour everywhere in the Eastern time zone,

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Speaker 1: along with Eddie Garrison Colts, Cardinal's coming up Sunday, Kyler

1345
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: Murray practicing for Arizona. That's probably the biggest news going

1346
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Speaker 1: into this one. By the way, I'm curious for people

1347
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: of this. And I'll begin by saying, I love, I'm

1348
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: a huge fan and always will be of the Indianapolis Star,

1349
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: and I do feel bad because the Star, like a

1350
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of different businesses, you know, is is victim to

1351
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: in ever changing atmosphere and culture and you know, downsizing

1352
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: and corporate mergers and all of those things. So and

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the people over there, and

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: they're great. I mean, you know, I have a lot

1355
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: of friends that work over there, and so I know,

1356
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: and I'm smart enough, and you know, I've been around

1357
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: it enough to know that a lot of peoples, they

1358
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: are just simply victims of circumstance. But I'm curious if

1359
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Speaker 1: I'm the only one because this may be a me problem.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that I think might

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Speaker 1: be a me problem. One of them is and I

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01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: don't know when this came to be. And I'm just

1363
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: curious if anyone else has experienced this in the last

1364
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: month or so. The Indie Star app on my phone

1365
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: online is like a completely different format and basically eighty

1366
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: five percent of the time I click on it, it

1367
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: either just doesn't load its blank or headlines come up

1368
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: and I can't click on them and nothing happens. Is

1369
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: that a me thing? That's entirely possible.

1370
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Speaker 2: A me thing?

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Speaker 1: But if anybody else has noticed some sort of your.

1372
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: Ferry recipient what's at text to beer faery recipient and

1373
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: ask him, he may know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean honestly, like and I don't know if

1375
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: they're doing something differently. Kevin, Kevin, do you happen to

1376
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: use Kevin Bowen, joins us from the Fan morning show.

1377
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: He is on the Java House Peel and Poor guest line, Kevin,

1378
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: do you use the Indie Star app on your phone?

1379
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Speaker 2: By chance?

1380
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Speaker 5: I'm pretty religious in terms of using just the web

1381
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 5: like laptop, but I'm trying to even look at my

1382
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 5: phone if I have the Indie Star app. I feel

1383
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 5: like I used to have it and I thought it

1384
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 5: was kind of worthless, So I don't really or I

1385
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 5: didn't really use it much, but I mean online, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I really don't have ever I have any issues.

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Speaker 1: With it, okay, because the app it like right now

1388
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: there's there's a story and I'm clicking on it and

1389
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: like nothing's happening, you know what I mean. It's just

1390
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: like I don't know like it, and it anytime that

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: I go on it.

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: What's that have sounded?

1393
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: All?

1394
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: No question?

1395
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: But no when I go on it now their website

1396
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: and again this might be a me thing or on

1397
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: my phone thing, all I ever see is a thing

1398
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: that just says trending and it has like the list

1399
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Speaker 1: of ten articles and there's no like homepage that kind

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01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: of thing. So I don't know, maybe it's me. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I've got you know what it is, Kevin, I probably

1402
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: have the cookies. I think I have the cookies in

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: my phone. Is that what it is?

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 5: We should we get Mark Dyton as you know, third

1405
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 5: on the line here and he can.

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01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: Walk us through.

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Speaker 5: You know you at six fifty nine in the morning,

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 5: I won't let me log in today. Why can't I

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 5: splant from over here?

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you PTSD for everybody, all right? So what's

1411
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: that me included back in those days when we were

1412
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: yelling about that. I think Jacoby Brissette was a cult

1413
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: Are we going to see him starting on Sunday?

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01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 5: Well, I think I just saw that Kyler Murray is

1415
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 5: practicing today, So yeah, I guess this is going to

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 5: go down to the wire. I don't know. I'm a

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 5: little torn, like what would be best for the Colts.

1418
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 5: Part of me thinks a limited running Kyler Murray at

1419
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 5: five tens, standing in the pocket, having to throw the

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Speaker 5: football might honestly be better. I realized Jacoby is not

1421
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 5: much of a scrambler, but he has you know, taken

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01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 5: the bulk of the reps this week, So yeah, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. Typically, I feel like with a veteran quarterback,

1424
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 5: if you practice one day, that's enough. But maybe Jonathan

1425
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 5: and watches on practice today and it's like, oh boy,

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 5: he is a you know, a lot more limited. He

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 5: did not run it at all after the foot injury

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 5: against Tennessee in the in the final four drives, and

1429
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 5: that obviously is a huge part of this game. So yeah,

1430
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Speaker 5: I could probably listen to conversations both ways on who

1431
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 5: the Colts would rather see on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about from the Colts standpoint, who's in and

1433
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: who's out.

1434
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: We have had our eye on.

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Speaker 1: We know Kenny Moore is out at this point, Kevin,

1436
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: who else is out or could be in jeopardy of

1437
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: out for the Colts?

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler Goodson the only other guy they ruled out,

1439
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 5: so he's missed a couple weeks with a groin injury.

1440
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Speaker 5: Alex Pearce has cleared concussion protocols. When we spoke last Friday,

1441
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 5: he was the surprise guy that was out, so he

1442
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,919
Speaker 5: will play coming up on Sunday. So that is definitely

1443
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 5: the positive. Gover Stewart looks to be good to go. Yeah,

1444
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 5: I mean I think outside of Kenny and Tyler Goodson,

1445
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 5: the Colts looks to be really really healthy heading into Sunday.

1446
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Speaker 1: So that's the thing, you know, the the Kenny Moore injury.

1447
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: I I want to go back to that, Kevin. There

1448
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: was a time where when there was attrition in the

1449
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: defensive backfield for the Colts, you would have said, okay, okay,

1450
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: that's and I mean I was Kenny Moore is a

1451
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: significant injury. But at this point they kind of have

1452
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: gotten used to. We talked about it yesterday with James

1453
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 1: kind of moving guy, not moving guys around, but playing

1454
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: with and having to go into the depth chart there

1455
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 1: more than any other area, which is a tough position

1456
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: to have to do that. But are we going to

1457
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: see anybody else this weekend in the defensive backfield getting

1458
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,480
Speaker 1: looks that we have not seen previously?

1459
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: Well, so, Mike Chilton is who they had been using

1460
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 5: without Kenny and then he suffered a shoulder injury. He's

1461
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 5: on IR. During the game on Sunday, they went with

1462
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 5: Chrysal Lamon, so I would assume Lamon's would and actually

1463
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 5: thought he made a couple of nice plays against the Raiders.

1464
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 5: I would assume he would be that guy. To me,

1465
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 5: this is the week that kind of screams Moody Ward

1466
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 5: shadowing margat Hi Garrison Junior and then Trey McBride as

1467
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 5: their tight end is a really good pass catcher to

1468
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 5: definitely need a plan in place for him. But you know,

1469
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 5: I mean Jonathan Edwards, your guy would probably be next up.

1470
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 5: I mean Jalen Jones is still on IR, So I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't think secondary wise, if they feel the need to,

1472
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Speaker 5: you know whatever, shadow our spy is probably the better word.

1473
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. Maybe some wrinkles would get in there, but

1474
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 5: I don't see anything, you know, as far as their

1475
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 5: top three corners, I assume it be money Ward, Makayle Blackman,

1476
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 5: and then I think Chris the Mons for Kenny Moore.

1477
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Speaker 1: Were you surprised by the move of you know, when

1478
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: when when they signed your main Pratt, That's one thing,

1479
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: but then to immediately hear the news about you go

1480
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: into IR, Were you surprised by the latter part of that.

1481
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's just because they never announced an injury

1482
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 5: in game, and so I don't know, maybe that's something

1483
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 5: that developed after the game. Jane Second did say today

1484
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: he doesn't think it's season ending injury for Bachi. So again,

1485
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 5: IR means you got to at least miss four games.

1486
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 5: But you know, he hadn't played well. I mean really

1487
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 5: none of the linebackers have played very well next to

1488
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 5: Zia Franklin and and really the rumo, you know, personal

1489
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 5: relationships having gone very well either. We'll see if Jermaine

1490
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 5: Pratt the thing about practice different than Xavier and Howard

1491
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 5: is he he's played this season. I mean he started

1492
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 5: four games for the Raiders, so clearly he wasn't happy

1493
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 5: with something that was there, and you know, very vague

1494
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 5: on both parties. In what happened there. But you know,

1495
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 5: he should be in game shape and given his history

1496
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 5: with Lou and Rumo and the Colts, you know, definitely

1497
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 5: think intelligence is one of his strengths. I would assume

1498
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 5: he gets a chance to play and and and maybe

1499
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 5: play significant snaps on some day.

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Speaker 2: You know.

1501
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen is our guest. You hear in the morning

1502
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: on the Fan Morning Show with James Boyd and Jeff Rickard.

1503
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: He is on the Java House Peel and Poor Guest

1504
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: line Kevin. The the other thing that we've talked a

1505
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: lot about over the course of the week, and that

1506
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: is and I'm going to ask you the question, probably

1507
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: going to ask you this weekly, right because but it

1508
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: does fascinate me. Are the Colts getting the most out

1509
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones because of the way Shane Styking has

1510
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: been calling plays for him? Or is Shane Stiking getting

1511
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: the most out of the plays that he can call

1512
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 1: because of the skill set of Daniel Jones.

1513
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, the easy cop

1514
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 5: I would say, I definitely think it's a little bit

1515
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 5: of both. I've always been pretty bullish on Shane as

1516
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 5: a play caller and just an offensive mind. I think

1517
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 5: if I evaluated play callers is so difficult. It's like, well,

1518
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 5: the play works, so that means it must have been

1519
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 5: a good play. Oh, the play didn't work, so that

1520
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: means it, you know, must have been a bad call.

1521
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 5: I think it's difficult, especially from the outside to know,

1522
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, if a guy is a great play caller

1523
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 5: or not. But again, I think Shane has done a

1524
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 5: really good job. It's very different quarterbacks Philip Rivers and

1525
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts, and I do think that,

1526
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,879
Speaker 5: you know, he is a big X and O out

1527
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 5: scheme chess match, you know, prepare guy. And so when

1528
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 5: that quarterback's mindset I think matches more of what Shane's

1529
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 5: you know, thinking is than you know. It makes clearly

1530
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 5: a marriage that has had great success. And I think,

1531
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 5: you know, by all accounts, the end of the Jones

1532
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 5: is kind.

1533
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 3: Of that type of quarterback.

1534
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 5: So I think Shane is, you know, again pretty bullish

1535
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 5: on what he's able to do Monday through Saturday and

1536
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 5: get an offense ready. And you know, when Daniel can

1537
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 5: you know, match that or you know, even recognize some

1538
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 5: things that might be differently pre snap and then boom,

1539
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 5: let's make this adjustment. Make that adjustment. This is what

1540
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 5: Shane said might happen.

1541
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 3: Hey, let's do that.

1542
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 5: Then you're going to have I think a lot of success.

1543
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 5: And obviously the Cults have had that.

1544
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: Who do you think is actually, I don't know how

1545
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: to word this, Kevin, Who are you more convinced is

1546
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: in fact, for real the Colts of the Jaguars.

1547
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 5: I think the Colts. I think the Jags have lived

1548
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 5: off turnovers, and I think turnovers can get a little

1549
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 5: hot and cold, and so I would say more of

1550
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 5: the Colts. You know, point differential definitely would favor the Colts.

1551
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 5: You know, Jacksonville has been in a lot of closer games,

1552
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 5: but you know, maybe things changing. I mean, really Jacksonville's schedule,

1553
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 5: I want to say they have I think it's like

1554
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 5: Seattle and the Rams the next two weeks and after

1555
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 5: their bye week. It really like, I think your schedule

1556
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 5: really eases up where you know, they've already played Kansas City,

1557
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 5: They've already played San Francisco. You know, the Colts have

1558
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: yet to play those two teams. I think the Colts

1559
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 5: schedule it'll take a little while, but I think it'll

1560
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 5: start to toughen up, probably more in kind of the

1561
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 5: mid to late November range and then on. But yeah,

1562
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 5: so far right now through five weeks, you know who's

1563
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 5: the better four and one if you will, Yeah, Jacksonville

1564
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 5: probably has a few more quality wins, if you want

1565
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 5: to label it like that. But I think overall product

1566
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 5: I think the Colts a little bit more sustainable, just

1567
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 5: because yeah they have forced turnovers, but not anywhere near

1568
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 5: the number that Jacksonville has.

1569
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: Who are you more convinced their record is not indicative

1570
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: of who they have the potential to be? Kansas City

1571
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: or Baltimore.

1572
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably bet on Kansas City. I'm going to

1573
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 5: get you could chuck up, I guess now a couple

1574
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 5: of games with the Lamar Jackson injury, but you know,

1575
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 5: Kansaity easily could have won that on Monday night. You know,

1576
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 5: the sugar reheet rights. I think back next week. You know,

1577
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 5: how does that help them out? And I just I

1578
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 5: don't know. I've lost so many just stupid bets when

1579
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 5: I've bet against my homes in my life that I'm

1580
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,480
Speaker 5: just you know, no, i I'd rather be wrong than

1581
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 5: make that bet again.

1582
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: Who are you more convinced could be an NFL player

1583
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 1: that is here to stay and what we're seeing is

1584
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 1: indicative of their long term Cam Skataboo or Jackson dart.

1585
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 5: I think Scataboo will be a nice player until his

1586
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 5: body just falls apart.

1587
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: I meant, well, I mean it is incredible, isn't it.

1588
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine what Cam Scattoby's going to

1589
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 5: be going through the age of forty five or you know,

1590
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 5: dart By. I don't did the Giants get back in

1591
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 5: the round one to take him? I kind of forget.

1592
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 5: I mean, like a lot of people viewed him. I

1593
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 5: think it's that third quarterback in this past year's class,

1594
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 5: and really I guess he was above Sugar Sanders clearly.

1595
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 5: But you know that debate even before it turned into

1596
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 5: Sanders dropping as far as he did, I didn't think

1597
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 5: he was a name of the SEC and all of that.

1598
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 5: So boy there too. Just if they're on your team,

1599
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 5: they're the bash Brothers and you love them, but man,

1600
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 5: they're going to be so hateable so quick.

1601
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 4: I was.

1602
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: Kevin. There was a play last night.

1603
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this you watched, but

1604
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: there was a play where scatter But was late in

1605
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: the game and you know, he does his typical and

1606
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: he is a really fun player to watch, and he's

1607
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: got a little John Riggins in him, little Campbell. I

1608
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: mean all of that, right, but he you know, Mike

1609
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: Alstott if you want.

1610
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: To go more recent.

1611
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: But he he had a play and they showed him

1612
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: back in the huddle and he kept putting both hands

1613
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: on the side of his kind of shaking his head

1614
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: back and forth. And I thought, Okay, that's one of

1615
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: two things. And I'm not trying to be a cynic here.

1616
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's either this guy's a bulldog or this

1617
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: guy just got his bell rung. And and to your point,

1618
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: you worry about that, don't you a little bit in

1619
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: terms of longevity?

1620
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 5: Well yeah, and then you have the weird you know,

1621
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 5: concussion protocol of dayball at dart Boath going into the

1622
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 5: or day ball and scataboo. I guess it was going

1623
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 5: into the tent, which I assume the NFL is gonna

1624
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 5: find that that is a heavy, heavy no no there.

1625
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 5: So yeah, boy, he doesn't think much to hate the

1626
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 5: New York teams, and the NF East is already pretty

1627
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 5: divided from a fan base standpoint. I can only imagine

1628
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 5: what the reactions will be when those guys go to

1629
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 5: Philly and go to Washington.

1630
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, all right, Kevin who the sun pick?

1631
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 5: He went Colt Seeah, I gotta post that here. I

1632
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 5: thought the Cardinal might attract him on that helmet.

1633
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Did you go which helmet was it? Was it the

1634
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you the Black Cardinals helmets are sweet.

1635
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 4: I know.

1636
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 5: I feel like I've got a nineteen ninety eight helmet pack. Yeah,

1637
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 5: I might need to get if you have an updated one.

1638
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 5: You've already done so much for Max. That great clumpson

1639
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 5: jumpsuit you got them? Or that Barcelona I think it

1640
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 5: was a Barcelona jumpsuit now that I'm thinking correctly on it,

1641
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 5: that would be the football club Barcelona. And you got

1642
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 5: Rosie Clempson dress. So if you have some extra many helmets,

1643
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 5: I will take them. I thought the Cardinal he's got

1644
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 5: a big bird watcher, but I thought the Cardinal might

1645
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 5: be not atractive to him.

1646
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: Birdwatcher, No, not a big birdwatcher.

1647
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 5: But he's won four in a row. This is the

1648
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 5: hottest he's been since the end of his rookie season.

1649
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 5: And he went with the Colts. So he'll try to

1650
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 5: stretch it to uh five to one, that damn dolphin

1651
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 5: is the only thing that has led him Australa at.

1652
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: This point though he Now wait a minute, now here's here.

1653
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Remember Kevin here, I still think there's an asterisk next

1654
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 2: to that one. I'm blaming Maddy Bowen.

1655
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 5: Well, i'll let you bring that up to her. I'm

1656
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 5: not telling any thirty six week pregnant.

1657
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: Woman that I'm blaming her for anything. I've got right here.

1658
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: A thing of many helmets, but they're all alternate helmets,

1659
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Like none of these are the legit helmet, like it's

1660
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: the colts is like a light like a Easter egg

1661
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: blue and then the bills are red. And you can't

1662
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: go with that, right, These are totally doctored up helmets.

1663
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: You can't go with that, right they have these have

1664
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: to be at least you got the Yeah, it's kind

1665
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: of that.

1666
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Well I already pulled out the chargers helmet

1667
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 5: for next week. And that thing looks like I'm like,

1668
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 5: the chargers haven't worn this in years, Like it's the

1669
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 5: most bland charger's helmet out there. So yeah, we'll see.

1670
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

1671
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 5: I assume he will get this pick accurate.

1672
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: See here's here's one, but it's Washing. Okay, it's the

1673
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: Washington football team one. I'm like, you know, what are

1674
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: we doing here?

1675
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1676
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: So is this my assignment? My assignment is Uncle Jake

1677
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:00,879
Speaker 1: is to come up some cool helmets?

1678
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean I'm not asking you to you

1679
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 5: know whatever, thirty two helmet different I get. I mean,

1680
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 5: and I mean the NFL should consult with you. You

1681
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 5: obviously have an extreme passion for it. What is each

1682
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 5: team's dominant helmet, like you had to literally pull people

1683
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 5: or that team, you know, the Colts is obvious, but

1684
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 5: like other teams, clearly there are some indecisions. Okay, yeah,

1685
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 5: Roger Gan, Allen's a third part of you for this.

1686
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking right now, for example, at a set that

1687
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: I could purchase for him. But the Colts helmet is

1688
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: the the night helmet, the black one.

1689
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean that's no, no, that can't no.

1690
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's once a year, That's what I mean.

1691
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: So like if you type in alternate helmet, that's what

1692
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: you get, right, I mean, well, like some.

1693
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 5: People, like I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think

1694
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 5: of a team that like you would say, the helmet

1695
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 5: that they wore predominantly seven years ago is not the

1696
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 5: helmet that they wear that much anymore. So I think

1697
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 5: that's the Seattle would come to mind me that I mean,

1698
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Yeah, Seattle. For some reason,

1699
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm thinking a little bit of Buffalo,

1700
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 5: maybe even Tennessee. You know, I feel like Jacksonville has

1701
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 5: evolved a little bit in the short time they've been

1702
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 5: a franchise. So it sounds like a perfect Saturday project

1703
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 5: for you.

1704
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you're keeping me busy. I'll let

1705
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: you know what's after I'm done with my finger painting.

1706
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: I'll let you know when I get on project.

1707
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 5: You and Boo can do this coming up tomorrow.

1708
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1709
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: All right, new responsibilities for me. By the way, Kevin,

1710
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: here's the last thing for you to let you go.

1711
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: You're ready, Yeah, I need you to tell me if

1712
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: I should be offended by this or not. I'm going

1713
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: this weekend. Actually, Shannon and I are going to Denver

1714
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: to go see Paul McCartney tomorrow night at Corsfield.

1715
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

1716
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: Nice.

1717
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: Denver is shannon hometown. Her two brothers still live there.

1718
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: We're staying at her brother's house tonight. She's already there

1719
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: for that reason. She's visiting friends, family whatever. I think

1720
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: they actually have a dinner tonight. I get in tonight.

1721
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: My flight lands at ten pm Denver time, and Shannon said,

1722
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: can you go ahead and just take an uber from

1723
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: the airport to my brother's house. Should I be offended

1724
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: that no one's offering to pick me up at the airport?

1725
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 3: No?

1726
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 5: No, not ten o'clock local time, No, no way, Friday night.

1727
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

1728
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 5: I would do the same thing. I mean, and again,

1729
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 5: didn't you have the one who was your buddy? Was

1730
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 5: it Farcas? Who was the guy that drove to Cincinnati

1731
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 5: to pick you up?

1732
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: Iron from it? Yeah?

1733
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 5: Byron, Byron, Yeah, Byron, yeah, Byron above Farcas.

1734
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: I could remember. What about this?

1735
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: What about the fact that every single time anybody that's

1736
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: related to her has come to Indianapolis, I'm always the

1737
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: one that picks them up at the airport.

1738
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 5: Oh well, God, we don't need to go backways. Compliments

1739
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 5: here for for ja Querry. I mean, you have the

1740
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 5: personality of someone that would do that.

1741
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: A little bit.

1742
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 5: Most normal people ain't doing that. You're just you're just

1743
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 5: ja querry. So if you're gonna be I mean, hell,

1744
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 5: you would drive anybody from the airport if I know.

1745
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 5: But if someone in the text line said they needed

1746
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 5: a ride tonight from the airport at eleven pm, you

1747
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 5: would probably shine.

1748
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: Right totally love it. Yeah, it's a rough way to live,

1749
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: that's all I gotta say.

1750
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 5: All right, airport way out there in Denver too.

1751
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: It is.

1752
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: It's an eighty dollars uber ride. That's why I'm offended.

1753
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 5: Oh boy, yeah eighty yeah. Well then I might venmost

1754
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 5: share that with everybody else.

1755
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: It's not as much that I want to see her

1756
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. I want to save the eighty bucks.

1757
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting at.

1758
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 5: Well, that makes up. Well, just how about you? How

1759
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 5: about you ubercarpool of somebody on your flight?

1760
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Okay, new way to meet folks, fair enough, all right,

1761
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: I'll get on the project tomorrow with the helmets as well.

1762
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 5: All Right, you guys have a great weekend, right.

1763
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Dave Revson by

1764
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: the coming up about twenty five minutes from now, Big

1765
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 1: One in Oregon. Over the weekend, we can discuss that

1766
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 1: next hard to believe. By the way, this song also

1767
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 1: prominently featured in this movie twenty five years ago, road Trip,

1768
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: very underrated movie. I think you'd like road Trip, Eddie

1769
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: if you like fat like did you like American Pie?

1770
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1771
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: Very similar. Road Trip is about the Dude.

1772
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: Another raunchy movie, that's what you're saying.

1773
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Kind of.

1774
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: So the guy that plays Stiffler.

1775
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Is in it, and basically what it's about is about

1776
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are in college together. They're

1777
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, everybody in college has that literally, did you

1778
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: live in the dorms that you indie when you were

1779
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: a freshman, No, I was a commuter, Okay, So in

1780
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 1: the dorms. When you live in dorms in college, almost

1781
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: invariably every dorm has that one guy that's like twenty

1782
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 1: five and his parents think he's still in college taking

1783
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: classes and he's actually not. He's just like living hanging out.

1784
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: And so Tom Green, who had like a nine month

1785
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: era of relevance during this time, is in the movie

1786
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: and he plays that guy. But it's about basically a

1787
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: kid who needs to go across the country to go

1788
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: visit his high school girlfriend at her college, and so

1789
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: they have the one dork on the dorm floor that

1790
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: has a car, and so they buddy up with him

1791
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: and then they all drive across the country together and

1792
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: it's about their venture, their adventure.

1793
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: It's great.

1794
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: That's my endorsement for a quarter century now old movie

1795
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: that was probably a big movie at the time. I'd

1796
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: like for you to see what I'm about to do.

1797
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: Right here, Eddie, you're ready. It's this fast and easy.

1798
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: Dave Repston gonna join us about fifteen minutes from now,

1799
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: not even that ten minutes from now. Right here, do

1800
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: you see what I have in my hand? Is that

1801
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: the Java house? Is that coffee you going with the

1802
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: coffee folks? It's this easy with the peel and poor pod.

1803
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Right here's a pod of basically a coffee concentrate. You

1804
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: literally just pour it right into eight ounces of water.

1805
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: You can do it hot or cold. I actually do

1806
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: it room temperature. Boom, amazingly smooth coffee.

1807
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: It's that fast.

1808
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: So quit wasting your time in the morning like brewing

1809
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: a pot, all the noise and the cleanup, the clean yeah,

1810
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: just boom. And then the recyclable pod.

1811
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: I don't have to spend the money on the coffee filters.

1812
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: Easy peasy love it. Those of you on the YouTube

1813
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: page saw what I just or on the YouTube just

1814
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: saw what I did. The rest of you, it is

1815
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: fabulous the Java House and we have an announcement about

1816
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 1: them coming up on Monday as part of our partnership

1817
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: Big Weekend in College Football and it is headlined by

1818
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Indiana and Oregon. Dave Revs are going to join us

1819
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: to talk about exactly that. I am intrigued, Eddie because

1820
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: I I think Indiana. I don't know how to word this,

1821
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: but I am. We are like in week seventy now

1822
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: of me saying well, I don't know how good Indiana is,

1823
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 1: but I think this week we're gonna find out. And

1824
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 1: then they win, and they win fairly convincingly, Like by

1825
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of games you're like, yeah, I mean

1826
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. They were up seventeen a

1827
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: minute ago, now it's twenty four, and now it's sort

1828
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: of and it just continues that way. And when I

1829
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: look at this matchup with Oregon, I think to myself, Okay,

1830
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: I know Oregon offensively is extremely efficient, but so too

1831
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: is Indiana.

1832
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: They have a really good tight end Oregon does they

1833
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 2: have a.

1834
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: Really good quote I like their quarterback a lot too, right.

1835
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 2: Dantae Moores one of the guys that one of the

1836
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 2: Heisman favorites with Fernando Mendoza. The winner of this game,

1837
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 2: does that dicttor who wins the Heisman?

1838
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Jake the Heisman? It is interesting because oftentimes there are

1839
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: so many ebb and flows of If you go back

1840
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: and look historically speaking, the Heisman front runner in like October,

1841
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: very seldomly is that the Heisman winner. It's usually somebody

1842
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: that is pretty consistent over the course of the year,

1843
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: and then late in the year has two or three

1844
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, the seismic last minute push and you're like, boom,

1845
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: there it goes. So in other words, you know, I

1846
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: remember when Dak Prescott at one point it was like

1847
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: this guy is they've already put his name on the trophy.

1848
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, there have been players like that where you've

1849
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 1: looked at it to begin at one point in the

1850
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: year and said, man, they've already engraved it, and then

1851
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: by Thanksgiving you're like, what happened to that guy?

1852
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 2: Can Jeremiah Smith win it for Ohio State? Yes, he's

1853
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 2: really good. Oh yeah, you know.

1854
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior is one that you would have sworn

1855
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: was gonna win it, right, Yeah, maybe, I mean there

1856
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: are there are a lot of players that you know,

1857
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: I love the Heisman. When I was a kid, I

1858
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: got a coffee table book called the Heisman that had

1859
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: it was it was a photo book of all the

1860
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Heisman winners and I loved it. And I had this

1861
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: unique skill where from like nineteen, if you were to

1862
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: go back from like sixty nine to like ninety five,

1863
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: I can just rattle them off like that, Right, I

1864
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: love it. And then we went into this phase in

1865
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 1: the early to mid two thousands where the Heisman winner

1866
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: was basically just the best player on the best team,

1867
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the best team. And there were some

1868
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: in that realm where you're like, yeah, okay, I mean

1869
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: it got a little bit. There were some guys here

1870
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: like that probably was not the best player that year.

1871
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: Chris Wink comes to mind, and Jason White comes to mind.

1872
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: But now I think we've gotten back to and I

1873
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: think last year, I mean, the reality is like Ashton genty. Now,

1874
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: when you look at it, you go, Okay, this guy

1875
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: really was special and what he was able to do

1876
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: at Boise State was really special. And I think you

1877
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: can see it already now with the Raiders.

1878
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is having one of those special years too.

1879
01:34:59,040 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 2: For Notre Dame.

1880
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: He's another one that Notre Name has two backs.

1881
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 2: That are really good.

1882
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tadarian Price and Price is really good yep. And

1883
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: that might hurt them, right, is the fact that they

1884
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: may kind of offset one another. But I don't know why.

1885
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated about a Heisman. And then there

1886
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: are some schools that it's surprising how either how many

1887
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: Heisman winners they've had or.

1888
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 2: How few Heisman winners they've had.

1889
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: But no, I think Mendoza, you are correct in the fact, Eddie,

1890
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: that this game this weekend could go. It could have

1891
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: implication in that.

1892
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 2: John matierback for Oklahoma this week. It sounds like potentially

1893
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,560
Speaker 2: he was another one of those potential Heisman candidates. He

1894
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: suffered a right hand injury. I believe Oklahoma has a

1895
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 2: big test this week, and I have to double check

1896
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: on that. But Oklahoma's got Texas yep, so a test

1897
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 2: but not a big one. And dan Arlovsky is still

1898
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: insistent and I don't think he's wrong that arch Manning,

1899
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: and I think arch Manning for sure now comes back

1900
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 2: for another year. I don't think he although I think

1901
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: he could have been. He could win the Heisman this year,

1902
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 2: and I think he still would have contemplated coming back

1903
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: because that's kind of been what the Mannings have done.

1904
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 2: But I do still believe that he will be the

1905
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 2: number one player taken when he comes out, even if

1906
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 2: he has struggled, and I know he has struggled, but

1907
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 2: even with his struggles, you have to look at just

1908
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: the pedigree alone, and if there is even a percentage

1909
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 2: of a chance that he can be what his two

1910
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: uncles are, then you go with it. You would take Eli, right,

1911
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you want it to be Peyton, But even

1912
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 2: if you got Eli's career out of it, you're like, Okay,

1913
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: let's go. I'm good with that. Right.

1914
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: Oregon, to me is intriguing because of the fact that

1915
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: their big way, I mean, that win at Penn State

1916
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: was impressive because their back was against the wall. They

1917
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: had to come down, they had to, they had to

1918
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: they had to have two drives that were really impressive

1919
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: late in that game, including in the overtime. But Penn's

1920
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: again I said it earlier. Every time we start to

1921
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:08,600
Speaker 1: think that Penn State is this is the year that

1922
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: they're going to stake their claim and keep themselves. Once

1923
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: the leaves turn and the leaves start falling, and my

1924
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: mom's warning comes out that Penn State is still in

1925
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: the thick of it. What I've said on this show

1926
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: a billion times every year saying with Penn State, start out,

1927
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: go four and zero, everybody gets excited, go play Ohio State,

1928
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,839
Speaker 1: lead seventeen to six, late third quarter, everybody gets excited.

1929
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: You go and you do something. You come back and

1930
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: they lose twenty seven to seventeen.

1931
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 2: What the world happened?

1932
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: And then after that disappointment, they turn around a week

1933
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: or two later and lose to Minnesota. And so last week,

1934
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: as they're getting ready to play against Oregon, as they're

1935
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: playing at a home game in Happy Valley with all eyes,

1936
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: all attention on them, just when you think they might

1937
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: be legit, and just when you think they might beat

1938
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Oregon and hang around, they stand up and say we

1939
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: are Penn State. And they prove it by losing that

1940
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: game and then turning around, going on the road and

1941
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 1: laying a complete egg against the worst team in the

1942
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: Big Ten in UCLA. And I think that that devalues

1943
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: a little bit for Indiana because for Indiana, and I

1944
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: think Indiana, if they were especially if they're to beat Oregon,

1945
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: then what happens in Happy Valley is probably inconsequential. But

1946
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: in terms of their playoff seating, if you're Indiana and

1947
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: you're trying to position for that, what you really wanted

1948
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: was for your two signature quality, here we are. We're

1949
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: putting it at your feet and argue why. I mean,

1950
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: obviously the Illinois win is going to be massive for them,

1951
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 1: but I think Illinois is going to It's entirely possible.

1952
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: Illinois has not even ranked by the time the pairings

1953
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: come out the Penn State and Oregon games. If they

1954
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: were to get both of those games, and so certainly

1955
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 1: if they were to get one of the two, then

1956
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 1: you feel really good about Indiana's profile. But now it

1957
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 1: hurts them a little bit by the Penn State loss

1958
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: to UCLA. I mean, because if you go into Penn

1959
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: State and you beat them, now it's like, well, that's

1960
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, and if you lose to them,

1961
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: it hurts you a little bit. But nonetheless, you know,

1962
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,839
Speaker 1: do you think they'll go in and win tomorrow?

1963
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't, but it wouldn't shock me. They've got the

1964
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,839
Speaker 2: They're coming off the bye week, so they're fully prepared,

1965
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 2: they're resting, they had a week to get used to

1966
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 2: practicing at whatever time they want to practice at for

1967
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 2: the West coast trip, to get used to that. You know,

1968
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 2: that timing and that circadian rhythm. It's going to rain, though,

1969
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 2: is the is the challenge? Right?

1970
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1971
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 3: Is it?

1972
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,919
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with the forecast for Saturday.

1973
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you think of Oregon in general,

1974
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: obviously this time of year, you know, you think about

1975
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 1: the fact that, like it's not always the sunniest of places,

1976
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: but you know, you might need you might need to

1977
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: play it under lights a little bit. Speaking of under lights,

1978
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: the scoreboard is going to be lit up. I'm telling

1979
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: you right now, because at least in my mind, whenever

1980
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I think of Purdue and Minnesota, I think of it

1981
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: being like a fifty six to fifty five game. That's

1982
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: the matchup this week for the Boilers in the Twin

1983
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: Cities taking on the Gophers.

1984
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 2: Look at how far we've come, Jake. We've come from

1985
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: your manifestation that IU is going to shock the world.

1986
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago and go into the Big

1987
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 2: House in upset, Michigan, and they laid after the first

1988
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 2: quarter and then they get throttled to Now we're wondering

1989
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 2: can they go on the road and beat a organ

1990
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 2: duck team that's one of the best in the country.

1991
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: I think they can. I honestly. I again, you know

1992
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: how good is Oregon? I think Oregon's really good. And

1993
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: I was so impressed by them in the way that

1994
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: they handled things against Penn State. And I hate saying it,

1995
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: but and then is that devalued by Penn State's effort

1996
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: or lack thereof at UCLA or maybe that just took

1997
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 1: the wind out of Penn State. But UCLA is terrible.

1998
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they are really bad. But it's the mark.

1999
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Marquee game, college game days there,

2000
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: and Signetti has that like swagger about himself. Again, I

2001
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: go back to I think last year when he went

2002
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: on college game Day just before the Indiana Notre Dame game,

2003
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: he almost like lost sight of what show he was

2004
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 1: on and what the moment was. It was almost bizarre.

2005
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: It was like he I think he looked over and

2006
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 1: saw McAfee there and thought for a second that he

2007
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 1: was on that show and literally like vapor locked on

2008
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 1: the fact that he was getting ready to see his

2009
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: team play in a college football playoff game and was

2010
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: on the pregame game day and that seemingly just and

2011
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: then he went out and they all kind.

2012
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 2: Of vapor locked.

2013
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: But we'll find out more about that and the slate

2014
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: of Big ten games because joining us now on the

2015
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: Java House, Peel and poor guest line he is a

2016
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: friend of the show. You see him on the Big

2017
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: Ten Network. Dave Revsen joins us to talk primarily Indiana

2018
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: and Oregon.

2019
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 2: Dave, how are you?

2020
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 7: I am doing well? What's going on?

2021
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 3: Jake?

2022
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: You know I'm still Dave.

2023
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: I just said I feel like I'm in week fifty

2024
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: of saying to myself, is this the week we find

2025
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: out if Indiana's for real? Because it just still feels surreal, right,

2026
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: And the fact that here it is top ten matchup

2027
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: with Oregon, and yet I don't know, you know, with Oregon.

2028
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 1: I mean this is they always have that time of year, Dave,

2029
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: that's called Separation Saturday where just teams kind of separate

2030
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: from one another with big matchups. Is this one of them?

2031
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: Or in reality? Is this a game that so long

2032
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: it stays closed, it doesn't derail either team's postseason hopes.

2033
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 7: I think the latter, Jake, I think these are both

2034
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 7: really good teams. I mean, they're both in the top

2035
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 7: ten in the nation in scoring offense, in scoring defense.

2036
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 7: I don't think there's an obvious weakness that we've seen

2037
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 7: with either one of them. I think they're both really good.

2038
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 7: They've both had some games where they've played better than

2039
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 7: other games. And you know, I still think Indiana's win

2040
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 7: over Illinois, like what else do you need? I mean,

2041
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 7: they won by fifty three points. Like, it's crazy to

2042
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 7: me that there's still people who are doubting Indiana. And

2043
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 7: I don't think, like if you go into Oregon and

2044
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 7: don't win at a place where you know the home

2045
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 7: team has won the most consecutive games of any stadium

2046
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 7: in America, like somehow that that's going to reflect poorly,

2047
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 7: don't Indiana? Like I just don't get it. I don't

2048
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 7: know what else they have to do. But obviously, were

2049
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 7: they to go in and win, I mean, I think

2050
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 7: this whole thing would hit like a totally different level.

2051
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you might be looking at an

2052
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 7: Indiana team that's ranked second in then or you know,

2053
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 7: depending on what happens in Champagne. I mean, you know

2054
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 7: this is this could be a seismic win, as I'm

2055
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 7: sure you know they've never won a road game against

2056
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 7: the top five team in the history of the program.

2057
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, this would be in some ways

2058
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 7: the most impressive win in the history of Indiana football.

2059
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 7: So it's a huge opportunity. But I just think that

2060
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 7: if they don't win, I don't think that that tells

2061
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 7: us anything other than they're playing a really good team tomorrow.

2062
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: I watched Oregon, you know, like most against Penn State,

2063
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 1: and Dave where I was so impressed was say what

2064
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: you want about Penn State, and you know, their their

2065
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: disappointment a week later in the Rose Bowl. But to

2066
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: go into Happy Valley in a white out like that

2067
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: in a hostile environment, Oregon not once, but like two

2068
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: or three times in the last ten minutes of that

2069
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: game had to have drives of complete pinpoint accuracy and

2070
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: did exactly that.

2071
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 2: I thought.

2072
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: Offensively, they looked as efficient as anybody I've seen in

2073
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 1: some time in those situations. But what is what is

2074
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: the overwhelming strength and presentable weakness of Oregon. As you

2075
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 1: look at what Indiana is going to try to exploit.

2076
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 7: I think that you can run the ball on Oregon

2077
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 7: to go to the weakness, and we've seen some teams

2078
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 7: do that. I thought Northwestern ran the ball pretty well

2079
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 7: on them, so that that would be the one area

2080
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 7: in obviously, So you know, I'm in Indiana started the

2081
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 7: year over three hundred yards for straight games running the ball,

2082
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 7: and then you're just not going to do that to Iowa.

2083
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 7: I mean, I wish just too good defensively, but I

2084
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 7: think that that's the one area of weakness that I

2085
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 7: could find, or relative weakness. I still think Oregon's got

2086
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 7: a good run defense. As far as strengths, I'd say

2087
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 7: pretty much everything else. I mean, I just think they're

2088
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 7: really really good. I think you could make an argument

2089
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 7: they're the most complete team in the country. To your point,

2090
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 7: Dante More is just great. He's got very talented wide

2091
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 7: receivers to Coreyan Moore is outstanding the freshman wide receiver.

2092
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 7: They've got talented wrong backs. They're just a very very

2093
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 7: good team. They're gonna they're gonna create some havoc up

2094
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 7: front and on defense. So I think that's going to

2095
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:15,520
Speaker 7: be a challenge for sure, you know, dealing with Mettelia Leanal.

2096
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 7: I mean, he's a he's a force, and and you know,

2097
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 7: we saw It's interesting because I think Kurtzignetti has said

2098
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 7: this right that like what separated them last year from

2099
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 7: the from the two elite teams that they lost to

2100
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 7: was offensive line and was the offensive line good enough?

2101
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 7: And he felt like it wasn't and so they went

2102
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 7: out and made some changes. This will be a good

2103
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 7: test of that how they deal with Oregon's offensive line,

2104
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 7: because it's it's really good.

2105
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 3: Really talented.

2106
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: Dave Revsen is our guest good.

2107
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 7: The defensive line.

2108
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, go ahead.

2109
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 1: Dave Revsin's our guest from the Big Ten Network. He's

2110
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and poor guest line, Dave.

2111
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: When you look at the conference in general, you know,

2112
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 1: and I think obviously up top, those that we thought

2113
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: were going to be there are there. But be it

2114
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: somebody that is playing more competently than you expected, or

2115
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,560
Speaker 1: somebody who has been slower out of the gate than expected.

2116
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: Who is your biggest surprise so far in the Big Ten?

2117
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 7: I think Michigan's actually a little bit better than I

2118
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 7: thought they would be. I just thought like with a

2119
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 7: freshman quarterback there'd be some growing pains, and they didn't

2120
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 7: play great clearly when they play Oklahoma. But I think

2121
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 7: they're a little ahead. I didn't think Justice Haynes would

2122
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 7: be this good. I mean, he is really good. He's

2123
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 7: as good at running back maybe as there is in

2124
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 7: the country. I still don't think they're great at wide receiver.

2125
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 7: They're very good defensively.

2126
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 3: I think it's a.

2127
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 7: Really interesting game tomorrow, them going to USC, because I

2128
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 7: think those are two teams that you have to squint

2129
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 7: too hard to think. If things fall their way, they

2130
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 7: could be teams that are in the College Football Playoff discussion.

2131
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 7: So I think we learn a lot about Michigan, but

2132
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 7: I didn't think they were quite at that CFP level.

2133
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,600
Speaker 7: They may not be. I mean, we may get to

2134
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 7: the end of the day tomorrow and USC beats them,

2135
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 7: and that would be a challenge for Michigan to make

2136
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 7: it from there. But I'd say they're a little better.

2137
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 7: Look Penn State is a huge story on the flip side.

2138
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 7: I mean, they're not the only one. Right We're dealing

2139
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 7: with Number one, number two, and number four in the

2140
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 7: preseason poll are all out of the poll through one

2141
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,719
Speaker 7: week of games in October. I mean, that's just crazy.

2142
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 7: It shows you, I think, you know the degree of

2143
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 7: parody that we have in college football right now. But

2144
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 7: I'm astonished at what happened to Penn State. Not against Oregon.

2145
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 7: I think Oregon's fabulous, and I thought Oregon was going

2146
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 7: to win that game. But I mean to go to

2147
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 7: UCLA and to lose, and to have so many chances

2148
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 7: to come back and win the game and just never

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Speaker 7: be able to get a stop. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 7: astonishing to see what happened to them last week. And

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01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 7: you know they got to win out now. I mean,

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01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 7: they still have Indiana and Ohio State. So if you

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Speaker 7: win both those games, you're going to be in the playoffics.

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01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 7: I mean, you win everything else. But but there just

2155
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 7: isn't a whole lot of evidence to support the notion

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01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 7: that they would win those games because of what we've

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01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 7: seen from them.

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Speaker 1: Dave one of them, one of them that has surprised

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01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: me and I because it's been like all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I just looked and saw it, you know, kind of

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01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 1: snuck up on me, I guess, And so maybe I'm

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01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 1: naive here. What has caused the You know, we're so

2163
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: used to and accustomed to seeing Wisconsin being at the top.

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01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 1: And I think they have a good coach or certainly

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01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: one that came in with a big pedigree. What has

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01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: been the issue for the Badgers?

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01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 7: Man, where do you want to start? They can't run

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Speaker 7: the ball. They cannot line up and run the ball.

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Speaker 7: And it's so weird because you think about the tradition

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01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 7: with Ery Terrez. Yeah, kind of the way that they

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01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 7: built that program. That part of it is crazy. I

2172
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 7: believe they're lasting the Big ten in rushing yards for

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01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 7: a tempt. They're either last or next to last, So

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Speaker 7: that part of it is really stunning. Look, they've had

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01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 7: quarterback injuries. Third straight year. Their starting quarterbacks gotten hurt.

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01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 7: There now with a third different starter. They started Hunter Simmons,

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01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 7: he's a Southern Illinois transfer. Last week they have Ganny

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01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 7: O'Neil who started at San Diego State last year. He

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01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 7: started games. Obviously, Billy Edwards is brought in to be

2180
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 7: the start of the Maryland transfer. He's been hurt, so

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01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 7: it's hard. There are a lot of teams that are

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Speaker 7: able to go three deep at quarterback, and it felt

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01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 7: like they kind of reinforced themselves for just this eventuality,

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01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 7: and you know, they find themselves here again. So they've

2185
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 7: had some rotten luck. Their schedule is absolutely brutal, and

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01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 7: so that doesn't help either. I mean, there just aren't

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01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 7: a lot of places on the schedule for them to

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01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 7: get well. But i'd say those are the big things.

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01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 7: I mean, just kind of offensively, they're nowhere near where

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01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 7: you'd expecting to be. They've got a really good run defense,

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01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 7: they've done on a great pass defense. Yeah, it's it's wild,

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Speaker 7: I mean, is it's crazy to see it because they've

2193
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 7: just been the model of consistency here as you know, Jake,

2194
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 7: for years and and they're just not there. And it's

2195
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,759
Speaker 7: the things that they built the identity of the program

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01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 7: around that they can't do.

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Speaker 1: One other one for you, Dave, only because we haven't

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: had it has talked to you since you guys were

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01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: able to go around as a matter of fact, paratrooping,

2200
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 1: skydiving into the different which was fun, into the different

2201
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:11,560
Speaker 1: camps over the course of the preseason. You got a

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01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 1: chance to be around and I know at this point

2203
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: zero and two in the conference, but I personally, just

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01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: in watching games, I really liked what I've seen out

2205
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: of Bury otom and by that I mean he just

2206
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that has a control of the sidelines.

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01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: And while I realize that he is trying to get

2208
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: a program going in the right direction, Purdue looks to

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01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: me like a team that does play with an increased

2210
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,440
Speaker 1: level of discipline. But I've not been to their practices.

2211
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: You were around it. What were your impressions and takeaways

2212
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:42,560
Speaker 1: from West Lafayette.

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01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 7: Well, I would just say, first of all, I agree

2214
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 7: with everything you said about barriotem He's great, Like he's

2215
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 7: just totally buttoned out. He gets it. I can see

2216
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 7: where players would really like him. He is a low

2217
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 7: key demeanor to him that I think would be really

2218
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 7: relatable for young people. I will say, Jake, like they

2219
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 7: had they were not good that they were there. I

2220
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 7: mean they scrimmage and it was it was rough. Now

2221
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 7: they everyone was getting reps, I mean literally every single

2222
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 7: guy on the roster, and so sometimes you're looking, you know,

2223
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 7: look at a player like, wow, I was a mess.

2224
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 7: But they are guys who probably aren't going to play

2225
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 7: all year, and it's hard to discern that. But they

2226
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 7: to the degree to which they improved from the day

2227
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 7: that we were there to the day they kicked off

2228
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 7: the season was market It was really impressive. I think

2229
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 7: offensively they're good. I mean, Ryan Brown has been very good.

2230
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 2: I like a lot of the.

2231
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 3: Receivers they have.

2232
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 7: It's been a little bit more of a challenge to

2233
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 7: stop people defensively. Sometimes that takes longer. I just think

2234
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 7: it's harder to out scheme people defensively, Like, ultimately you

2235
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 7: still have to make the tackle, and they just haven't

2236
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 7: necessarily been able to do that. They haven't necessarily been

2237
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 7: able to cover in the way that they want to.

2238
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 3: But I have one hundred percent.

2239
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 7: Belief in that he's the right guy and that they'll

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01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 7: turn this thing around here sooner rather than Like, I

2241
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 7: don't think this is going to be this kind of

2242
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 7: laborious build that we used to see because in this

2243
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,759
Speaker 7: day and age, you can't turn things around much more quickly,

2244
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 7: evidence to what's happened in Bloomington. So yeah, I agree

2245
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 7: with you. I think they got the right guy. I again,

2246
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 7: I just think like fitting all those pieces together, it's

2247
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 7: not going to happen overnight. But I think they've got

2248
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 7: a good plan, and I really really like the direction

2249
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 7: of that program.

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Speaker 1: Going to be a really busy slate of games in

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01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 1: the Big Ten coming up, obviously, as it is each

2252
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: and every Saturday. Dave Revsen, Big ten Network lifelong White

2253
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 1: Sox fan, but Cubs with a chance to punch their

2254
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: ticket to the NLCS tomorrow. Do you get on the

2255
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 1: Cubs bandwagon? I can't recall if you are one of

2256
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: these that's like a North and South side fan.

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01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,560
Speaker 7: No, I do not, in any way get on the

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01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 7: Cubs bandwagon. I would say I have, I have softened

2259
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:54,600
Speaker 7: this somewhat. In my old age, there was definitely you know,

2260
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 7: for years, I was just like, you know, if the

2261
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 7: Cubs win the World Series, I'll just have to leave

2262
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 7: the country. But once the White Sox had won it

2263
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 7: and I saw it was a really special moe for me,

2264
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 7: and I don't want to, you know, take up time,

2265
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 7: you know, talking about the two thousand and five Chicago

2266
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 7: White Sox. So I'm sure it's a huge interest to

2267
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 7: your listenership. You didn't even it was the last game,

2268
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 7: as you know, like my dad passed away in two

2269
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 7: thousand and seven, and it was a huge sports fans

2270
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 7: The reason I'm a sports fan, the last sporting event

2271
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 7: I went to with my dad was Game two of

2272
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 7: the World Series, Scotty pathetic to walk up home running

2273
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 7: the rain, and it is a memory I'll take with

2274
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 7: me forever. And I have so many friends who's who

2275
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 7: are Cubs fans and who I wanted to see experience

2276
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 7: something similar with special people in their lives. So I

2277
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 7: was happy when the Cubs won it, But now that

2278
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 7: they've done it, I don't need to see them do

2279
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 7: it again. So no, you know, like I'm all in

2280
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 7: on the Brewers And.

2281
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's working his throwback cecil Cooper Jersey as we're talking.

2282
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean that's just where I am, like, like

2283
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 7: I want to, you know, I want to pretend like

2284
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 7: a nice guy, but I mean everyone has their livings.

2285
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: No nest your mind, I said, Dave. I'm telling you

2286
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: I and my parents are huge Cubs fans. I grew

2287
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: up a Reds fan, I said. When the Cubs were

2288
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 1: on the cusp of it in twenty sixteen, I'm like, look,

2289
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 1: it's great if you win a World Series, but once

2290
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: you win it, Cubs fans, you just become another obnoxious

2291
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: fan base.

2292
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Right.

2293
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: The love of a loser mantra is gone. You're just

2294
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 1: another fan base, So I get it. So go brew crew, Right,

2295
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

2296
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 7: I'm ken fingers come in.

2297
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: That's right.

2298
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Better known as the president of the Gordon Thomas Fan Club,

2299
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Dave Repsen on the Java House Peel and Port guest line,

2300
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Dave appreciate it as always man enjoy the games this.

2301
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 7: Weekend at Great Talk to Jake.

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01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: Dave Repsen of the Big Ten Network joining us. All right,

2303
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: is our Friday interesting?

2304
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Eddie?

2305
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 1: You'd mentioned that we gave away the Kansas tickets earlier, right, yeah,

2306
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: and when we did, you said it was Evan that

2307
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: had a note for me when you were getting the

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: information from him.

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01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 2: Is that right? That is correct? And that note was

2310
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 2: He said he wanted to thank you for spreading the

2311
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 2: message about Franciscan health and the heart screenings because he

2312
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 2: went and got one recently and everything came back aoka.

2313
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 2: But he said the process was very easy and that

2314
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 2: he's thankful that he went through it because now he's

2315
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: aware of how easy it is to get a forty

2316
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 2: dollars heart skin. You love it.

2317
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: That is the peace of mind that comes with that

2318
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 1: and a heart health risk assessment. One of the things

2319
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: that we do each and every Friday is tell you

2320
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: about that and a Franciscan Health, feel good, good for

2321
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: the Heart Friday. And for this Friday, we go to

2322
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 1: somewhere that I wasn't even aware of until about a

2323
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 1: month ago. I'll explain next. It is a Friday, it

2324
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: is the bottom of the two o'clock hour.

2325
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 2: You know what that means.

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01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Franciscan Health, feel good, good for the heart Friday. We're

2327
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna need the stories of Oftentimes, I like for it

2328
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 1: to be a high school athlete that just does something

2329
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 1: that makes your heart feel good. And if you know

2330
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: of an athlete, you know of, a store you know of.

2331
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes it might be an underdog. Sometimes it's somebody that

2332
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: simply did something spectacular. I would love for you to

2333
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 1: pass along that information to me, and I will give

2334
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: you the information on making sure that your heart is

2335
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: in the right place. That is the whole purpose of course,

2336
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: each and every Friday of our segment with Franciscan Health.

2337
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: And a reminder, as Eddie had mentioned, as Evan had

2338
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: mentioned to him, the heart scans are so easy to do.

2339
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 1: It's just forty nine dollars you can pay out a pocket,

2340
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: you can self refer it's non invasive, and it really

2341
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 1: is important, especially if you are over the age of forty.

2342
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: If you and it doesn't mean that you have to

2343
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 1: be in these categories, but certainly if you are, if

2344
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: you've had problems with your cholesterol or diabetes, if you're

2345
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: a former or current smoker, you have a history of

2346
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 1: family heart disease like myself, then the heart scans are

2347
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 1: really important because not only can you get a look

2348
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: at just the overall calcium score within your heart, but

2349
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 1: also you get a heart health risk assessment where they're

2350
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: going to give you kind of the roadmap on where

2351
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 1: you stand in your cardiovascular health.

2352
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 2: And I would love for you folks to do it.

2353
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate the number of people that have mentioned to

2354
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: me in the past that they got a heart scan

2355
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 1: and the peace of mind that comes with it, or

2356
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: in some cases, actually I've had a couple of people

2357
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: that have said, look, I went in, thank goodness because

2358
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: I found out that I had blockage and had to

2359
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: go in immediately and get a stent. And you know,

2360
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 1: it can be life saving, and that stuff means a

2361
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: lot to me, as I know it does the people

2362
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 1: that have benefited from the great work that they do

2363
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: at Franciscan, and you're talking about a place that is

2364
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 1: number one by care checks and others in terms of

2365
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: their cardiovascular care. A couple of weeks ago, you may

2366
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: recall that I did a fundraiser I mentioned with Tony

2367
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: Kanaan where we went to kind of the near southeast side,

2368
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 1: over in your Fountain Square, to a school that I

2369
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 1: will be honest with you, I was unfamiliar with this

2370
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: school and I was super impressed by the school itself.

2371
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Providence CHRISTA. Ray is the school, and this is a

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01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:12,080
Speaker 1: school that is set up. Initially they were operating on

2373
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: the near west side. They now have a beautiful building

2374
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 1: that is right over near Fountain Square. And the school

2375
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:24,879
Speaker 1: itself home of the Wolves, mind you, the Lobos Lobos

2376
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: the name of the mascot. As I was walking through

2377
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: the school, I was very taken by, excuse me, a

2378
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 1: couple of different things. Number One, the students themselves. You know, obviously,

2379
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: this is a school that is working within you know,

2380
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: as a Catholic foundation, but it is designed to be

2381
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: a school for students that have to qualify by coming

2382
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: from lower income families, and more often than not, the

2383
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 1: families that the students are coming from are first generation Americans,

2384
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 1: and the design is also for these students to become

2385
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 1: first generation college students of Americans. And in talking to

2386
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: the kids and in listening to their stories, it was

2387
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 1: remarkable listening to the valedictorian or the girl that will

2388
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: be the valedictorian this year, who's the president of the

2389
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 1: honor society at the school. She gave a speech about

2390
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 1: the school and talked about how she had gone on

2391
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: a retreat at Notre Dame and it was the first

2392
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: time really that she had been around students that were

2393
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: from backgrounds different than hers, and you know, she kind

2394
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 1: of got shy and reserved because of it, but then

2395
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: realized that she needed to push through because she herself

2396
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: wanted to become a college student. And the illumination that

2397
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: took place in that weekend of just being out of

2398
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: her element and out of her comfort zone, and as

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02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 1: she had mentioned, it almost like standing at the edge

2400
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: of a cliff and deciding that, you know, she needed

2401
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 1: to move forward and push herself. And I saw that

2402
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: from so many of the kids at this school and

2403
02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 1: the work that they're doing and impacting the lives of

2404
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: so many kids that are going to be the next

2405
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 1: generation of leader here in Indianapolis. And that included as

2406
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: I was walking around the school, because I noticed the

2407
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 1: soccer fields and I was asking about and we were

2408
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 1: in the gymnasium obviously, and so I was asking about

2409
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 1: the athletic teams, and they said, well, we just had

2410
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 1: a student that qualified for the first time. Now that

2411
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Providence Chrystal Ray is an IHSAA member school, we had

2412
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 1: our first athlete qualify for an IHSAA State Finals tournament.

2413
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 1: And that student was just honored this week at their

2414
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 1: senior night. And I'm talking about Jessica Martinez. Now, Jessica

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02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 1: Martinez is a student at PCR who, like many of

2416
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: her peers, grew up in a household where a college,

2417
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 1: for example, wasn't necessarily on the radar because she is

2418
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 1: within a family where her folks did not go to school,

2419
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: meaning college. And again, so many first generation Americans within

2420
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 1: this school that is funded through different charities, different foundations

2421
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: and fundraisers like Tony Kanaan and I were helping out

2422
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 1: with to help for the curriculum and the academic rigors

2423
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 1: and everything else, the tutoring, but also the tuition for

2424
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 1: the students that are going to the school. So Jessica

2425
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:29,800
Speaker 1: was one who plays literally every sport that she can

2426
02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 1: play at school and realized and noticed that the IHSAA

2427
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 1: for the first time was doing girls wrestling. And when

2428
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 1: you think about wrestling, wrestling is such an individual sport

2429
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 1: and those that go into wrestling, when they go into it,

2430
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 1: oftentimes it is about a discipline. It's like the martial arts,

2431
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: and the fact that the personal discipline that goes into

2432
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 1: it can lead to life lessons that go well above

2433
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: and beyond what takes place on the met Sure, it's

2434
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 1: interesting enough to have a girl's wrestling program, but she

2435
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 1: saw that and I think just overall in talking to

2436
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:10,200
Speaker 1: people that know Jessica, it was the initiative, in the

2437
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: drive of the individual, pushing yourself and going outside your

2438
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: comfort zone that was of appeal to her. So she

2439
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: went ahead. She signed up as a freshman before it

2440
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: was even like within the ISSAA sanctioning, and in doing

2441
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 1: so she matter of fact, I will tell you exactly

2442
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: and read it to you exactly as they said it

2443
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: to me. After dominating her sectionals in regional matches, she

2444
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 1: competed against the undefeated three time reigning state champion in

2445
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 1: her weight class and made it all three rounds before

2446
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 1: losing by a single point to her opponent. Her opponent

2447
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 1: penned every other girl she wrestled during the tournament, making

2448
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: Jessica the only one to go unpinned. She finished the

2449
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 1: season last year at twenty one and six and then

2450
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,760
Speaker 1: enjoyed it so much that now she is a member

2451
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 1: of the volleyball team at Providence CHRISTA.

2452
02:03:58,400 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 2: Ray.

2453
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: But more importantly, she also was able to use that

2454
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 1: discipline that drive towards getting herself into a program with

2455
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the local real estate company, because at Providence Chrysto. Ray

2456
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 1: it is a work study program where every student goes

2457
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 1: to school Monday through Thursday, but then on Friday has

2458
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 1: to work a job. And she is doing someone doing

2459
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 1: that job within the real estate business here in Indianapolis

2460
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 1: and learning those traits that will allow her, of course,

2461
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 1: beyond high school itself. And now after all of that,

2462
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: after competing, after getting to the state finals and becoming

2463
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 1: the first Wolf athlete to make it to the IHSAA

2464
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 1: state finals in any sport, she does now have her

2465
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 1: eyes set on college and next year will be within

2466
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: her family the first to attend college. All because of

2467
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:53,160
Speaker 1: the lessons that she has learned through athletics, and I

2468
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 1: think that's the important thing here. We talk so much

2469
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: about on this show sports in general, and we talk

2470
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 1: about professional athletes, but we lose sights sometimes of the

2471
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 1: value that can come from learning just the most simple

2472
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 1: of disciplines on an individual level into the team level,

2473
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: in Jessica's case, going from wrestling into volleyball and being

2474
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 1: able to work with others as well, and then do

2475
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: so in a work co op that will build the

2476
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 1: foundation from athletics and academics moving forward. And again, as

2477
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: is the case with any group of people, you want

2478
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: to see the generation below you or behind you, I

2479
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: should say, being able to walk into a situation better

2480
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 1: than the one that you had. And that's exactly what

2481
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 1: her family and her school is doing for her. So

2482
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 1: I want to thank Providence christa Ray for allowing Tony

2483
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 1: Kanat and myself to see exactly the work, the initiative

2484
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 1: that they do, and the mission that they have. It

2485
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 1: was a pleasure to work with them, and it was

2486
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 1: a pleasure to see that photo so proudly displayed right

2487
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: there within the halls of the Wolves that others can

2488
02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 1: look towards and other kids can look towards as well,

2489
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 1: their own personal accomplishments and personal initiatives and goals. We'll

2490
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 1: come back, we'll see what jamv has lined up. We'll

2491
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: also give you our prediction for the Cardinals and the Colts.

2492
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:11,840
Speaker 1: We'll do it on the other side on this Friday

2493
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 1: edition Aquaring Company. I am surprised, Eddie, surprised. We haven't

2494
02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 1: talked to a lot of lines and you know, points

2495
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,960
Speaker 1: spreads that kind of thing often, but anytime there's one

2496
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 1: that's seismic in the NFL, it jumps out at me.

2497
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. And Eddie, you tell me if

2498
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 1: you are or or not that Cincinnati's getting fourteen and

2499
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 1: a half in Green Bay.

2500
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. Green Bay's coming off of bye week.

2501
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've paid attention to Jake.

2502
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 2: They've got a pretty good defense and Cincinnati has a

2503
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:48,160
Speaker 2: pretty poorse offensive line. I get that, but I mean

2504
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 2: starting Joe Flacco on a week of just you know,

2505
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 2: he was in there what Tuesday, and now he's the

2506
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 2: starter when you've got Jamar Chase and t Higgins just

2507
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 2: those two alone, I mean Jamar Chase questionable dealing with

2508
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 2: an illness, did not practice today.

2509
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: Get you get ten points and then Green Bay's got

2510
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: to get twenty five. I mean, I don't know, you

2511
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:11,760
Speaker 1: get thirteen points. I gotta score four touchdowns. I mean

2512
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 1: they don't have score four, But you get what I'm saying. Yeah,

2513
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:16,680
Speaker 1: I just think in the NFL, fourteen and a half

2514
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 1: is just massive, and more often than not when it's

2515
02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: that big. I don't know the statistics on it, but

2516
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 1: it seems like when the spreads get that big, more

2517
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: often than not, somebody covers.

2518
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 2: Backdoor covers are so easy when the number is that big. Yeah, Yeah,

2519
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 2: that's what I mean.

2520
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: But I do think even with Kyler Murray now practicing today,

2521
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 1: if you are just joining us on the show, Kenny

2522
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,920
Speaker 1: Moore is out, but Alec Pierce is back and he

2523
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 1: is out of the concussion protocol, So it looks like

2524
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is a go. I think the Colts have

2525
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 1: a big offensive day. I'll say thirty one to twenty

2526
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:52,920
Speaker 1: Colts out of year thoughts.

2527
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 2: I've got the Colts doubling them up twenty six thirteen. Okay,

2528
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 2: that's fair. Should we Lupinjing and VBC what he thinks?

2529
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Speaker 8: I love Sam Silver Circle at Fletcher and Shelby. By

2536
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 8: the way, Jake, I went with thirty one twenty. Did

2537
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 8: you really in my pick?

2538
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 5: I did?

2539
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, yesterday made that pick? Oh you can, I don't care. Hell,

2540
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 8: we didn't check in with one another like a couple

2541
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:32,600
Speaker 8: with dorics.

2542
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:32,800
Speaker 3: Mike.

2543
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2544
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

2545
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Speaker 1: What's on the big program today?

2546
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Speaker 8: John, We've got Hagen's going to join me here live

2547
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 8: loaded up show. I know Charles Arbuckle is going to

2548
02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 8: join me a little bit later on Bob Lovell High

2549
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 8: School Football Friday Night. It's a big deal obviously, the

2550
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 8: pairing show coming up on Sunday. I didn't want to

2551
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 8: give a shout out Brooks. Barneiser is going to play

2552
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 8: a role at some point with a Thunder as a rookie.

2553
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 8: You know, he's get a lot of minutes so far

2554
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 8: in the preseason. The Thunder here in town tomorrow to

2555
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 8: take on the Pacers in the preseason and Lafayette Jeff

2556
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 8: stand out, Northwestern stand out. His dad's a really good

2557
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 8: friend of mine, Mark Barnheiser. So that'll be worthy of

2558
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,120
Speaker 8: watching or listening to as a stands ninety three to

2559
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 8: five and one oh seven five tomorrow night. And Jake,

2560
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,680
Speaker 8: I you in Oregon big tomorrow at three point thirty.

2561
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 8: You know, it's funny this is going to end, certainly

2562
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 8: not this early, but I use always going to have

2563
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 8: to prove itself. And this is something that the Pacers

2564
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 8: have to do. They're having to do it again this year.

2565
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 8: They had to do it last year.

2566
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 3: Aaron E.

2567
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 8: Smith mentioned that on media Day, always having to prove yourself,

2568
02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 8: and I think that that sometimes can give you an

2569
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 8: edge because you were always on guard for a lack

2570
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 8: of a letdown. You don't want that letdown out to

2571
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:49,120
Speaker 8: let all the other jack sticks out there be right,

2572
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 8: this is a big game.

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Speaker 3: In terms of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean Kurt Signetti uses that, right. I mean Kurt

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Speaker 1: Signetti I think has that kind of chip that is

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Speaker 1: just fueled into his players, and that's really a big

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Speaker 1: driving force. See for Indiana, Right, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I think that it works.

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Speaker 8: I always thought that as much as you can play,

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Speaker 8: and players will tell you this is if you can

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02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 8: always go out there and find measures and means and

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Speaker 8: which to motivate, it's always a big damn deal. And

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Speaker 8: I think you can find that basically every week. The

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02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 8: Pacers find that every single game, every single year, and

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Speaker 8: then the Colts are going through that process or proving

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Speaker 8: themselves right now, off to a four and one start.

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Speaker 1: You always know when John's on location, it's a big

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02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 1: damn deal. And that's why we will throw it out

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02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 1: to him here in just a couple of minutes. All right, John,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the week half over the show today. All Right,

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02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 1: that's an awesome place.

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Speaker 8: Let me know about McCartney because lady is going to

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02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 8: Des Moines next week to see Cortney.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool?

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02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now it is tomorrow night in Denver, and I still

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02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 1: don't know whether or not I'm ubering, or whether or

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02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 1: not I'm getting picked up at the airport? Eddie, Do

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02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:51,880
Speaker 1: I have a legitimate b for my being petty?

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Speaker 2: I think you're being a little petty, do you I do?

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02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 2: What if?

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02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 1: What if?

2603
02:10:58,400 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: I'm literally every single time that her brothers have come

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Speaker 1: to India.

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02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 2: I picked them up the airport. That speaks more about

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02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 2: you than it does then, I think, Jake, I think

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02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 2: that's entirely my point, and Jake your point. Another point

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02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 2: here Friday night, they're gonna be out at dinner. You

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02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 2: know ten o'clock. You never know ten o'clock. I mean,

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02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 2: beverages could be consumed here, Jake, and we don't want

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02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 2: people getting behind the wheel after consuming beverages.

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02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 1: Listen, they're going to like Golden Corral, They're not.

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02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Come on, all right, Eddie, you said, what was your

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02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 1: prediction twenty six thirteen?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay? What about for Indiana Oregon? Ooh, I have

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02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 2: to go Oregon. Unfortunately, I think it's a I think

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02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 2: it's a bar and burner. I think these two offenses

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02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:42,720
Speaker 2: are gonna put up some points. You have Oregon winning

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02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 2: thirty four thirty one. You know what, why not Indiana? Baby?

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02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 1: Indiana wins thirty one twenty eight over Oregon? My pick,

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02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss me next week. I mean, I just

2624
02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 1: went out on a limb once with Oregon. Let's not

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02:11:59,400 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 1: go twice?

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Speaker 2: Right? You are going to Florida. Is that right, yep,

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Speaker 2: going to Florida for a week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, enjoy travel safely and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to everybody on Monday. We'll talk to Eddie a week

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Speaker 1: from Monday, it would appear, but you folks have a

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Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. John's up next. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Quarry Company.