Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast, where we
Speaker 2: are reviewing the new Netflix show starring Chasing.
Speaker 1: Bateman created by Zach Balin.
Speaker 2: Black Rabbit. It's limited series. Limited series. Yeah, so this
Speaker 2: may be one and it is one of the yeah,
Speaker 2: because the ain't no more. Jason Batman character right stars
Speaker 2: Julee Law. Juice Law also has original music in this
Speaker 2: if so he did some of the songs in here.
Speaker 1: So it's eight episodes. Jue Law plays the main character.
Speaker 1: Him and Jason Bateman's are brothers that are restaurant founders.
Speaker 1: I'll go around the room and see what you guys
Speaker 1: thought about the series. Michael, what did you think about
Speaker 1: Black Rabbit? I thought it was cool. I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool.
Speaker 3: I think this was definitely driven by the performances. It
Speaker 3: did not need to be eight episodes. I think it
Speaker 3: could have been five and it would have been a
Speaker 3: lot better. But nah, man, this was this was really good.
Speaker 3: There's certain things that we'll get to I'm sure did
Speaker 3: not need to be in there. I did not give
Speaker 3: one twenty thousandth of a fuck about this love story
Speaker 3: between Jude Law and the super Fine Girl. I didn't
Speaker 3: care one fucking bit, and I thought it distracted from
Speaker 3: the story.
Speaker 1: Actually, But for the most part, this was good. Nice, Rob,
Speaker 1: would you think of it? Yeah, I'm with Mike. I
Speaker 1: thought it was good. It felt like it had Ozark
Speaker 1: vibes to it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was oh, okay, okay, even
Speaker 2: from like the opening scene, like the opening title sequence,
Speaker 2: how they show what's gonna happen in the episode. Y'all
Speaker 2: have remember how Ozark used to be like that they did? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they did that here, so it had Ozark by I
Speaker 2: do think it was driven by the by the performances
Speaker 2: more so than the story, cause if you take the
Speaker 2: performances out of the stories like eh, but.
Speaker 1: But no, Yeah, I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: I thought I was enjoy it a little bit more
Speaker 2: than I did, like I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 2: this is something I was gonna put like top five,
Speaker 2: top ten, and I'm not even quite sure if it's
Speaker 2: gonna make that.
Speaker 1: I thought it was solid. Yeah, Ken, what'd you think?
Speaker 2: The description I had when I started watching this Friday
Speaker 2: after the first couple episodes is that it's good, but
Speaker 2: it's boring interesting. Yeah, because it was just like because
Speaker 2: the story is not I mean, it's not a crazy story.
Speaker 2: It's a very simple, generic story. I think to everybody's
Speaker 2: a point about the performances. The performances were driving it,
Speaker 2: but I adn't really connected to most of the characters
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I'm like, Okay, we're gonna drag
Speaker 2: this whole idea of him having the old money to
Speaker 2: somebody for eight episodes. It was concerning. So that's where
Speaker 2: I'm with Mike in regards to they could have chopped
Speaker 2: out some of these episodes to make it a little
Speaker 2: bit more compact. But you know, I thought that it
Speaker 2: definitely ended well. But yeah, yeah it was. It felt
Speaker 2: like it was a lot of just feeling it was
Speaker 2: a story for story sake.
Speaker 1: Come on, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in agree with y'all. I thought it was good,
Speaker 2: not great. It was very very, very much so led
Speaker 2: by the performances of Chasing Bateman and July. I think
Speaker 2: even did a great job. Even I like the athlete
Speaker 2: got or the black investor.
Speaker 1: Wes Williams. Yeah, I like you. I didn't like it. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't. That really is he? Is he anything else
Speaker 1: familiar with him? Maybe he's a UFC fighter too. Just
Speaker 1: give him the watch. I was, you know, I was
Speaker 1: sad that he got shot.
Speaker 3: I saw his outfit. He was wearing a suit with
Speaker 3: short I was like, Bro, showed the whole outfit. They
Speaker 3: show the whole outf I was like, Bro, you deserved
Speaker 3: that shot.
Speaker 1: They do. From Gangs of London kids, I don't. Did
Speaker 1: you watch Guys Lunch? No think I did.
Speaker 2: I don't even watch Okay. I think that's why I
Speaker 2: know him from Gangs of London did a better way,
Speaker 2: way better. He's a good actor. I'll say that. Y'all
Speaker 2: watching me in Games in London, I have a different opinion,
Speaker 2: I think. But the first episode, we'll go just read
Speaker 2: what stuff was about. Y'all tell me what y'all want
Speaker 2: to jump out. The Cyclone was the first episode. It's
Speaker 2: where were introduced to Jake, who runs an upscale restaurant
Speaker 2: called The Black Rabbit. Looming fig food visit from a
Speaker 2: critic heightens the pressure. Meanwhile, Jake's his strange brother Vents returned.
Speaker 2: I thought they took too long to bring Jason Bateman
Speaker 2: into this.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. He didn't come into halfway through the first episode.
Speaker 1: I thought The Black Rabbit was a sex toy, So
Speaker 1: I was more disappointed. I think it is. I think
Speaker 1: it probably heard jack any either way, I thought he
Speaker 1: came in pretty it was halfway. It was half like
Speaker 1: thirty minutes in. I don't think it was. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was.
Speaker 2: I thought that was Actually I don't think he heard
Speaker 2: it though. Yeah, because Jul did do a good job.
Speaker 2: Excellent he was. He was excellent in this. What about
Speaker 2: that first episode stuck out to you guys.
Speaker 1: Him running over that damn person.
Speaker 2: You can see he was a up automatically like off rip.
Speaker 1: I thought that was survival.
Speaker 3: No, he fucked up by letting him in his car
Speaker 3: like that to sell them baseball cards.
Speaker 1: He deserved to get job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was survival, but it's just like, bro, you
Speaker 2: can't even like you just ran over a person twice.
Speaker 1: And you didn't even get your coins back got away?
Speaker 1: He is a funk up. You're in a car? How
Speaker 1: you how do you get out run by a dude?
Speaker 2: I think that was good. I like seeing Jason Babman
Speaker 2: play a up me too. I've never seen him like
Speaker 2: play a role like this. He did a really good job.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: But see, while he was a fuck up he knew
Speaker 2: how to get he knew how to get money, he
Speaker 2: knew how to how to make stuff happen.
Speaker 1: Absolutely did not missed that.
Speaker 3: He didn't miss He fucked up every single day, you
Speaker 3: know what you mean.
Speaker 2: But he knew how to. He knew how to get
Speaker 2: stuff to a certain place. But then he'll fuck up.
Speaker 2: But they was scheme though, whether it was James or not,
Speaker 2: I thinks that we didn't.
Speaker 1: I think you're putting your positive spin on a fuck up.
Speaker 1: I thought he knew how to.
Speaker 2: What you're saying is that they even described it. Even
Speaker 2: Jason said it. I'm the vision guy, you're the brinder.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, So he had vision, he knew how to,
Speaker 3: he knew how to make stuff happen.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He did when the whole restaurant was
Speaker 1: his idea, but he didn't make it happen.
Speaker 3: They didn't make it happen, but he But it's like
Speaker 3: it's like he was good at directing and telling people
Speaker 3: how to make something happen, and then sometimes he could
Speaker 3: make stuff happen on his own.
Speaker 1: Bro, anybody could do that. He was a visionary.
Speaker 3: I think you would be great directed movie directing videos
Speaker 3: on YouTube Okay, that does not mean I'm a visionary.
Speaker 1: That just means I can no, bro, I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't even bring this home because you know why,
Speaker 3: because I don't do a ship like this. Even I
Speaker 3: think they even said it. I think even even Jake
Speaker 3: said it. He said, man, two thousand people have ideas
Speaker 3: over the restaurant. Facts, fact facts, right, But he had
Speaker 3: the vision behind like, well, I think this building would
Speaker 3: be the spot.
Speaker 1: I think this area. I'm just saying that's interesting. Anybody
Speaker 1: can see a nice building. But man, no, I don't
Speaker 1: think everybody visionaries like that. He's not there. But yes,
Speaker 1: he can literally people's lives.
Speaker 3: Yes, because he was a fuck up, and I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not denying that he's a fun up.
Speaker 1: But I think two things can be true. I think
Speaker 1: two things can be true.
Speaker 2: I think he was a visionary, but but he just
Speaker 2: didn't know how to hold on to ship, Like like
Speaker 2: the fact that he knew that he can get get
Speaker 2: money a certain way. He knew how to see it
Speaker 2: and go get it, but he would lose it. And
Speaker 2: I think they did a good job up right.
Speaker 3: I said, I said, anybody can say, you know what,
Speaker 3: I can steal some coins and make some money by
Speaker 3: selling it. Anybody can say I can go to a
Speaker 3: casino and gamble and make money. You know how to though,
Speaker 3: who doesn't know how to go to a casino and gamble?
Speaker 1: It's like, but he that's.
Speaker 3: Point, that's why he's out a visionary. He's a normalized dude.
Speaker 3: That's a these one step above a crackhead.
Speaker 1: He has seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Lost all of it. That's not a visionary. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: had vision, He had vision. He was a fucked though.
Speaker 3: He was a fuck up. But I think that was
Speaker 3: the beauty of the writing of him though. I think
Speaker 3: he showed that he knew how to get ship done.
Speaker 2: Like even with the house, right, he burned down the house,
Speaker 2: and I know he's skipping around, but he got they
Speaker 2: got the money.
Speaker 1: Though, that is a visionary to you. He did. But
Speaker 1: but but but they were gonna break it.
Speaker 3: But they were gonna break even, they wouldn't have got
Speaker 3: any money. He was like, well, this is how we
Speaker 3: get the money. Plus, we didn't even like our father.
Speaker 2: So he started looking at it from perspective of liking
Speaker 2: his like of well, we burning down our father's house,
Speaker 2: We're not burning down our mother's house. So that put
Speaker 2: him in the mindset, we could just burn this ship down.
Speaker 2: Let's just take the things that we like, the things
Speaker 2: that we cherished, and were burning ship down.
Speaker 1: A politician, let me ask you, I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: you this is what Trump is.
Speaker 2: The origin that is him shooting his dad. What did
Speaker 2: you think about that? What about the shooting?
Speaker 1: He was doing that to protect his bomb. He was
Speaker 1: doing that protecting because he was a visionary spike.
Speaker 2: But he was essentially ruined his life though, right, he
Speaker 2: didn't because he didn't tell his brother. And this whole
Speaker 2: time he think he keeping it a secret from his
Speaker 2: brother's brother.
Speaker 1: He thought he was protecting his brother.
Speaker 2: Well, he was told not to tell tell his brother,
Speaker 2: and he did think he was protective brothertecting his life.
Speaker 2: That that's when his life starts spiral. But man COTTI
Speaker 2: or whatever said, he's gonna have to own this.
Speaker 1: You didn't live with it, That's what you know. That
Speaker 1: guy's definitely in real life. Huh. The actor, the actor,
Speaker 1: it was language.
Speaker 3: He's a oh wow, I thought that was I thought
Speaker 3: he was a dope gamester. First it's weird, but then
Speaker 3: they started getting kind of he can't.
Speaker 1: No, he can't. He can't talk like that funked up fight.
Speaker 3: One of these model diet that you can't intimidate me
Speaker 3: with an interpreter, like somebody.
Speaker 1: Somebody got to talk. He's about to be jo that.
Speaker 1: I gotta hear him saying.
Speaker 3: It wasn't know like that, it was I went you
Speaker 3: at first.
Speaker 1: But what did he say when he slapped him?
Speaker 3: He said, did you feel that that was funny? He's
Speaker 3: a good actor for I don't want to say for
Speaker 3: a deaf guy, but no, I never I didn't realize
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 1: Really proper represent a proper representation that dope. They didn't
Speaker 1: walking dead.
Speaker 2: I thought it was more the representation after they better
Speaker 2: tone it down for the right foind up, right, I.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, highed, Yeah, he was good.
Speaker 2: He was somewhat intimidating though as it went on.
Speaker 1: Brolept a shot that moment. Oh no, and then little
Speaker 1: coon couldn't do it for me neither God acts off.
Speaker 1: They were They were good you mean awful as no? No? Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: the son, they were idiots good. I don't know who
Speaker 1: he was annoying.
Speaker 2: To, but that was his purpose, yea, I know, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to fight him because he just yes, anything
Speaker 2: stick out from my first episode, favorite scenes, anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, I think it was.
Speaker 3: I think it was a good kickoff because I remember
Speaker 3: immediately being like, let me just roll into the second one.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the second second one, it's called The Black Rabbits,
Speaker 2: Jake considers expansion financial strange against to show Vince confronts
Speaker 2: debts and past mistakes. Jake dreams of a second restaurant
Speaker 2: at the Pool on which he's trying to open with
Speaker 2: the Black It was kind of giving me the baar vibes,
Speaker 2: like they tried to steal a little bit of that
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 1: Did y'all get that? Yeah? I got, which wasn't it's good?
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I mean I think we know the bear.
Speaker 2: I saw people saying that, but I think that's why
Speaker 2: the association the cooking and.
Speaker 1: They weren't really cooking ship.
Speaker 2: Did y'all think it was a good idea for him
Speaker 2: to open a second restaurant and like expand Yeah, would
Speaker 2: have been expansion or would have been like at the
Speaker 2: expense trying to make its trying to spand I didn't
Speaker 2: know exactly what he was doing. I thought he was
Speaker 2: trying to get his own ship. But I think he
Speaker 2: was trying to franchise, is what they said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it franchised, because why would he the
Speaker 1: other one was his own ship. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when it made sense for him to fuck
Speaker 3: up the restaurant that's actually performing well to go do
Speaker 3: this other one, that's true.
Speaker 2: You said you didn't like the love store between him
Speaker 2: and the designer, know what was wrong with it?
Speaker 3: It didn't go anywhere, and I didn't give a fuck,
Speaker 3: and it didn't really make any fucking sense.
Speaker 2: Showed that the brother was not who he thought he were, Like,
Speaker 2: we're supposed to be this like stand up guy, everybody
Speaker 2: loves you, but you fucking your investor friend.
Speaker 1: But see, that is such a cheap way to show that.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think we needed him fucking his best
Speaker 3: his best friend's girl for.
Speaker 1: This story to work.
Speaker 3: The story worked on his own because he was addicted
Speaker 3: to making his brother happy or keeping his brother safe.
Speaker 1: That's the main story. Why are you adding in.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's also fucking this incredibly fine woman, And I
Speaker 3: was just like, bro, there's no way she's leaving the
Speaker 3: other dude, the bad actor guy for you with that hairline.
Speaker 2: She's in She's in the I think it's a new
Speaker 2: movie on Netflix, Cobbo.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. Is it rated? R?
Speaker 2: She was like, she was like a mix between like
Speaker 2: like Zoey Kravitz saying like, uh, what's the one who
Speaker 2: plays uh from the Star Wars?
Speaker 1: She plays a from Star Wars? Yeah, the Fifth System.
Speaker 2: Boy, you bet not tell me Dawson, Zario Dawson and Zoey.
Speaker 2: She's like a mix between them. To me, interests either way,
Speaker 2: I'm with Mike though. That shit was stupid. The story,
Speaker 2: it was like, it was so it was so unnecessary.
Speaker 2: I didn't hate it. They didn't need it for him
Speaker 2: to be getting shot to have any type of impact
Speaker 2: in them crying at the end.
Speaker 1: Together, because it didn't make sense that he died.
Speaker 3: We haven't gotten there yet, but it didn't even make
Speaker 3: sense that the guy died, but just him fucking around
Speaker 3: with the girl.
Speaker 1: They would have been fine if you just like.
Speaker 3: If he tried to just like move on her and
Speaker 3: then she kissed him and then was like, no, we're
Speaker 3: not doing this, what's wrong with you? And then that
Speaker 3: was the whole betrayal story. But her leaving him and
Speaker 3: going to do lost characters like, wait, where did this.
Speaker 1: Even come from?
Speaker 2: Yeah, game out of nowhere, like show me them unhappy first. Yes,
Speaker 2: they really liked each other.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that. It's about the black the bad
Speaker 1: after guy and West Williams.
Speaker 2: The only time we really saw that is when he
Speaker 2: found out that she was going to help with the
Speaker 2: pool and he was like, no, you're not going to
Speaker 2: do that, and then allow her to make her own choice.
Speaker 2: That was the only time we saw friction, right, And
Speaker 2: the other time we saw Jula looking at photos on
Speaker 2: the heart on the computer, making it look like he
Speaker 2: was a creep.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that she was even interested in
Speaker 1: him at all. She was more interested in him being
Speaker 1: supportive of her. I mean, that's fun.
Speaker 3: But showed me the other dude being extremely He did, though,
Speaker 3: but there was only once he was.
Speaker 1: Because he did. We y'all a right.
Speaker 2: They didn't show it enough, but he did, like he
Speaker 2: was really diminishing towards what she liked to do, and
Speaker 2: he mentioned other stuff. He was like, you said he
Speaker 2: was gonna rich he did this? She said he was,
Speaker 2: and it was like kind of putting all her stuff off.
Speaker 2: So I think that was giving us a past of it.
Speaker 2: But I didn't mind it as much.
Speaker 1: Even he said he was.
Speaker 2: Like out of everybody in fucking New York him, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like out of any Yeah, like out of everybody?
Speaker 1: Why him? Like, but you know, you bring up that scene.
Speaker 3: That was the only time I thought he was a
Speaker 3: good actor, because that is exactly what I would ask
Speaker 3: if that, because that's.
Speaker 1: What dudes want to know, like did you fuck him? Where?
Speaker 1: Did you fuck him? How many times?
Speaker 3: And then her being like why are you asking me that?
Speaker 3: That made sense, but then her just being like I'm
Speaker 3: leaving right now. Wait wait wait wait wait, yeah, what.
Speaker 1: They did rush through that?
Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent did did y'all like how
Speaker 2: he told the story of the robbery, like how he
Speaker 2: showed it was good dude, and then you had to
Speaker 2: figure out.
Speaker 1: What happened to keep going back.
Speaker 2: It was good that you had in your notes, Like
Speaker 2: what was your favorite episode that was part that was
Speaker 2: I was going to say that was episode six Out
Speaker 2: a fucking boy.
Speaker 1: That's when they went through everybody's uh.
Speaker 2: They showed Vince, they showed his brother, they showed different
Speaker 2: from different perspectives, and I thought that episode tied it.
Speaker 1: Episode damn what, Oh you're homophobic? Tone show? Yeah, are
Speaker 1: you're homophoby too? Like? Hold on? Who? I liked him?
Speaker 1: I just think he just turned on the boy.
Speaker 3: But I think he had a goods He should have
Speaker 3: been snooping around.
Speaker 2: He wasn't they invited him up there, Yeah, but he
Speaker 2: was already But but Jake invited him up.
Speaker 3: There in five minutes but at a fucking boy, So
Speaker 3: he was already up to some I'm trying to remember
Speaker 3: what it was.
Speaker 1: Though he was good, he was Yeah, I take that back.
Speaker 2: He had a good reason to turn on Jake because
Speaker 2: they thought Jake was He didn't know the real reason
Speaker 2: why Anna died.
Speaker 1: But he was the most street smart out of all
Speaker 1: them people. I agree with you. I'm more shocked that
Speaker 1: you just like he didn't have a good enough reason.
Speaker 3: The girl got raped and killed. That's about as good
Speaker 3: of a reason you to possibly have.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't his.
Speaker 3: It was it was Jake.
Speaker 1: Jake didn't want to turn the other dude in My thing?
Speaker 3: Is this like if you had that same indergy for
Speaker 3: Roxy because Roxy just kept her head down.
Speaker 1: That's not true. When Roxy found out she wouldn't she
Speaker 1: keep her head down?
Speaker 3: Initially, but then she started she feeling guilty. She started
Speaker 3: feeling guilty about it, so she went to Jake. She
Speaker 3: did and said he lied to her. That's the only
Speaker 3: reason that Rochie stuck with him because didn't remember like
Speaker 3: she turned on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she lied to who lies Jake because Jake. I
Speaker 1: thought Jake said something. Fuck, I don't remember. I thought
Speaker 1: Roxy felt bad, so she started trying to start trying
Speaker 1: to do I think Rosy started doing that ship when
Speaker 1: she got mad at Jake. Yes, I think it was both.
Speaker 2: I think she I think she got mad at Jake
Speaker 2: because I think she not wrong for me, but she
Speaker 2: didn't know what the fuck was going on.
Speaker 1: Jake wasn't trying.
Speaker 2: Jake was trying to get rid of the Jewels guy,
Speaker 2: but she didn't realize he was trying to get rid
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: She thought she was. He was just trying to still
Speaker 1: keep her, keep him around. No, did Roxy get mad
Speaker 1: at Jake because of the brother. She got mad at
Speaker 1: the brother came back.
Speaker 3: And then she really was over the top when when
Speaker 3: she told him to get rid of the brother, the
Speaker 3: brother came back.
Speaker 1: And Jewles was at the party. Yes, so she had every.
Speaker 2: Reason to turn on but she didn't have context though,
Speaker 2: what do you mean? Because he was trying to get
Speaker 2: Jewels out. He's like, look, don't let any of the
Speaker 2: women around.
Speaker 1: Jewels. He was just like, get him out of here.
Speaker 1: Who invited him?
Speaker 3: But he saw him there and he didn't. He didn't say, hey,
Speaker 3: you need to leave right now. I am one hundred
Speaker 3: percent with Roxy. See, this is why I would not
Speaker 3: go and write you a fucking letter, because you got
Speaker 3: all these excuses.
Speaker 1: It's not excuses.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: We saw him.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, that's why the writing was so good.
Speaker 2: We saw him trying trying to not deal with Jewels
Speaker 2: anymore once he found out.
Speaker 1: I feel you.
Speaker 2: Up to this point one Jewles was not invited yet
Speaker 2: Jeweles was there. And he never kicked Jewels out exactly.
Speaker 1: Because he couldn't. Because he didn't kick him out, he said,
Speaker 1: make sure none of the girls get around.
Speaker 3: That's not good enough. You're putting people's lives at risk.
Speaker 3: You should have walked over there and said, Jules.
Speaker 1: You have to leave, something like that.
Speaker 2: He just was there, he got there, something like that,
Speaker 2: but he didn't want to. He didn't tell me because
Speaker 2: he wanted that money.
Speaker 1: Exactly. You know what I'm saying, Like the dude was
Speaker 1: the investor or whatever. Maybe the hooked him up.
Speaker 2: What did y'all think about when we're gonna skip around
Speaker 2: here when Roxy confronted him about going out talking on
Speaker 2: the phone after the robbery, when I took So here's
Speaker 2: the thing, everybody this show I damn hated. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree with you that they did a good job. What
Speaker 2: it was, no like not villain in this stuff. Everybody
Speaker 2: was villain?
Speaker 1: How was Roxy and Tony villain?
Speaker 2: How was Tony was probably the only one that made
Speaker 2: whose character made the most sense in terms.
Speaker 1: Of his turn. But ROXI she went behind the back
Speaker 1: trying to get them out of good brought rape enabler.
Speaker 1: I brought you in from the street, and and then
Speaker 1: you started rapist, you know, because I know, I want
Speaker 1: to know. I built this restaurant, I built this ship.
Speaker 1: Break by break, the white woman got in her head.
Speaker 1: She was just like, you know what, you can own
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 2: I do agree the rape enabler part, and I think
Speaker 2: Jake should have been a little bit more clear on
Speaker 2: what to her what he was gonna do about jewels.
Speaker 2: The issue I had with Rotzi was what she was
Speaker 2: saying about vents, that was it. You don't tell me
Speaker 2: what to do with my fucking brother.
Speaker 3: Yes, I too, when I when I am the only
Speaker 3: reason your restaurant is surviving, not the only, yes, the only,
Speaker 3: the only.
Speaker 1: It was your brother. I can another ship, not like
Speaker 1: that's why he's a bartender.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: She was talented, she was the restaurant with her body,
Speaker 1: but it's other chefs out there New York.
Speaker 2: Come on man, And then with Vince Walter, what the
Speaker 2: are you still doing here?
Speaker 1: Who the fuck are you? I run this? You need
Speaker 1: to run your ass started. Yeah, she was a co owner. No, Tripp,
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 2: Don't have to buy you out. You wouldn't even have
Speaker 2: this job. If you went for me, you are you
Speaker 2: would have this restaurant.
Speaker 1: It wasn't for me. Tried to do a corporate behind
Speaker 1: his backyard. Yo, you know what? It was snitching, That's
Speaker 1: what I've been saying.
Speaker 2: Well when when when West was not going to go
Speaker 2: along with her, Wessell like, now he's my best friend,
Speaker 2: she was like, well your best.
Speaker 1: Friend doing She wasn't wrong, It don't matter if that's
Speaker 1: not her business.
Speaker 2: She used that situation to further her she had what
Speaker 2: she had in the gym, it's not but that makes her.
Speaker 1: That makes her a bitch or a terrible person. How well,
Speaker 1: I don't like it makes me dislike her. You call
Speaker 1: her I didn't mean to see people's I.
Speaker 2: See people will refer to her as but I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly, so I'm not gonna say it. I just
Speaker 2: said she's as some of them at the end, talk
Speaker 2: about who I'm on the phone with you goddamn.
Speaker 1: Face right now? Yeah, but now she looked go ahead
Speaker 1: after the murder, she did that, and y'all really yelling
Speaker 1: at her because he's like, you're there about who on
Speaker 1: the phone?
Speaker 3: Because she didn't trust him at that point because he
Speaker 3: lied about the tape. He lied about everything. And then
Speaker 3: these people get shot. Of course you get like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: wait wait, you're a part of this, who are on
Speaker 3: the phone with? I don't like roxy. I don't like
Speaker 3: how they let him out of that though, Like I
Speaker 3: don't think they wrote that will in this.
Speaker 1: They just make him who was on the goddamn phone?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like they should have wrote that, like
Speaker 1: jammed him up.
Speaker 2: My thing is, first of all, he's a jake, is
Speaker 2: a terrible life. But my thing is, like, I just
Speaker 2: we were just rob.
Speaker 1: Somebody just got shot. I'm on the phone with my
Speaker 1: ex wife, and why are you talking to me right now?
Speaker 1: She doesn't try. But he disappeared too. Not only was
Speaker 1: you on the you disappeared like what was you can't
Speaker 1: ask me? That's my thing. That's how if I trust you,
Speaker 1: he should have. He should have in a moment asking me,
Speaker 1: you're right? Get the crazy? No, she was, I hat
Speaker 1: the only validation she had to me was about the rape. Ship.
Speaker 1: He didn't really do ship about that, That's what I
Speaker 1: was saying, because because no, because with you of missed.
Speaker 1: Anna told her not to. I remember that, So then
Speaker 1: why would she do what was her for to do? Well?
Speaker 1: And did? She didn't? Okay? She said, I want to
Speaker 1: leave this alone and walk away from it. That's what
Speaker 1: she told her. And that is a rape victims right.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought she was telling Ana, well, you
Speaker 2: saw it going on. She's like, why are you acting
Speaker 2: like you didn't know what.
Speaker 1: Was going on? She said she didn't. She said she
Speaker 1: kept her head down guilt after Anna told her that
Speaker 1: she was raped.
Speaker 3: She said she kept her head down and let it go.
Speaker 3: I don't think she knew she was raped, but she
Speaker 3: knew some some weird ship was going on.
Speaker 1: She did, I don't think she said she did. She
Speaker 1: felt guilty.
Speaker 3: She said she felt guilty because she knew after Anna
Speaker 3: told her she still didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: You're talking about with the skirt up the shirt thing
Speaker 1: that she was I thought she didn't know about that,
Speaker 1: and she asked Jake, and Jake lied about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think Roxy knew about any of that ship
Speaker 1: that was going on. Girl, Roxy for nothing. I probably
Speaker 1: like Roxy, Wow, Like Roxy was the only one in
Speaker 1: this whole show. Not the only one. That's not true,
Speaker 1: but Roxy, I was just like, I get what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I got the hip you everybody you like somebody like
Speaker 3: cooperating with the with the police.
Speaker 1: Try it.
Speaker 3: Was to get it was to get him out of there.
Speaker 3: It was to get him out of there. And I
Speaker 3: don't care if a white man gets shot, if it
Speaker 3: was a brother.
Speaker 1: I have a different story. Typically white man, but typically
Speaker 1: comes white people. Two black and brown people got shot.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: When they shot my boy Tony, I literally said out loud,
Speaker 3: oh my god, not my boy Tony.
Speaker 1: I fucked with Tony. I did not like Tony, you're homophobic.
Speaker 1: It's not about anybody listening. I am joking. Rod's not homophobic.
Speaker 1: Please don't off of that music.
Speaker 2: Bro. He was ship Tony, he was. I thought he
Speaker 2: was gone, Bro, I thought I knew he wasn't gone.
Speaker 2: And they didn't say they could have killed.
Speaker 1: Both of them.
Speaker 3: They couldn't kill him both of them before that, because
Speaker 3: remember like after he got shot, he was laying on
Speaker 3: the ground, not moving and with his mouth all open
Speaker 3: and there was a puddle of blood.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they have killed my boy. To
Speaker 1: Roxy still in the kitchen working. No, she was. She
Speaker 1: was holding his neck, see y'all out. She went back
Speaker 1: into kids. Ain't right shot. She killed that scene right
Speaker 1: there because she was like, she was really just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to do? Who you found?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Right mind? It was her business, Wes Jake and Estelle
Speaker 1: wasn't her business. No. What was her business was the restaurant.
Speaker 1: And she was trying to make all that ship her business.
Speaker 1: So she went and told On was trying to bring
Speaker 1: her in on the other business and everything.
Speaker 3: She didn't want to like Man, you know, he liked
Speaker 3: what she could do for him. Okay, so that no,
Speaker 3: it's not this hashtag.
Speaker 1: Roxy was right. They made it.
Speaker 2: That was that was the spending was right. It was
Speaker 2: true they spent this. I ain't like that man, she
Speaker 2: got her own restaurant.
Speaker 1: Nitch loved it especially.
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Speaker 2: Did y'all think when they threatened Jake it was either
Speaker 2: him events. Did y'all think he was gonna take up events?
Speaker 1: Yes, his brother. I get to a point though, where
Speaker 1: you like, no, brother, I don't know you would ride
Speaker 1: for your brother over your wife and child. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what Yeah. Oh, especially brothers up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is. That is tough he was. He was
Speaker 1: in a tough spot.
Speaker 2: I think he made the right call, especially protect cham
Speaker 2: because Chen was the thing that was important to Vince.
Speaker 1: She was she got my nerves to I didn't like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna but that's the motherfucker. I could not
Speaker 1: stand like, what the fuck are you doing? Get in
Speaker 1: the fucking car. I'm not gonna run you stupid, gonna
Speaker 1: have apologize. I'm sorry. No, it's too late.
Speaker 2: Everything everything she did though, if she if she would
Speaker 2: have gotten in the car, none of that ship would
Speaker 2: have I mean, they needed it to happen to make
Speaker 2: but still.
Speaker 1: She was just fucking stupid. That's what That's what show.
Speaker 1: The shows like this need stupid people. Doing stupid, and
Speaker 1: they had a lot of it.
Speaker 2: They did defence's mental breakdown by the time he was
Speaker 2: like going through everything that did that makes sense which
Speaker 2: breakdown the one closes in episode seven when he was
Speaker 2: just like in the ship with it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember antal breakdown. Yeah, well they didn't specifically
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: With everything that was going on and you see him
Speaker 2: overly stretched out trying to juggle all these things. That
Speaker 2: mental breakdown in the sense of I'm basically holding on by.
Speaker 1: A string here. I don't remember that either.
Speaker 3: We can move past it, because it seemed like he
Speaker 3: was always thinking, all right, what can I do next?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a crackhead. Did y'all.
Speaker 2: Did y'all agree with his brother when he thought he
Speaker 2: could fix everything save Jake. Yes, Jake was just trying, man,
Speaker 2: He was at his witsand but he was just trying.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with him, but what else could he
Speaker 2: He didn't want to give his family up, He didn't
Speaker 2: want to give his brother up.
Speaker 1: He was just trying.
Speaker 2: The thing about this show is that Jake was the
Speaker 2: bigg as of an up as his brother. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: the thing I wanted to get to.
Speaker 1: I said it. I said as much when I finished
Speaker 1: these two. Yeah, they then in their own way, in
Speaker 1: their own way. I think Vince was worse as much
Speaker 1: got you, yeah, as much got me. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Vince was.
Speaker 3: I mean, was nearly as much of an up as Vince,
Speaker 3: because Jake was at least able to hold everything together
Speaker 3: until Vince came and sucked everything.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: You know what, I take it back, y'all might be
Speaker 1: right because I forgot he stole.
Speaker 4: Behind.
Speaker 1: I take it back. The loans, I take it back.
Speaker 2: They were out of they he completely he as a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, he derailed the wrest and that's and
Speaker 2: that's what it was, saying, like you got all this
Speaker 2: fucking like He's like, I don't own this ship.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm really it looks better than yeah, actually
Speaker 1: was he clues right game.
Speaker 2: Suit and then he just dressed like a rocker because
Speaker 2: remember because Vince was like, yo, man, I got all
Speaker 2: your money, I can kiss my ass.
Speaker 1: And then Jake was like, nah, that's gone. I have
Speaker 1: to put it back in the bank account. That is true.
Speaker 1: And then that's thing.
Speaker 2: You know, they're scrambling and now they got to do
Speaker 2: what twenty thousand a week because.
Speaker 1: They never really said what he was doing with his money,
Speaker 1: like how did you get behind?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 1: They never sure what he was doing. He just taking it.
Speaker 1: But if he was taking it, why didn't he have
Speaker 1: a better lifestyle? But if you're taking it, what are
Speaker 1: you spending it on?
Speaker 2: That's true that it wasn't no big flash houses or
Speaker 2: cars anding like yeah, because the car.
Speaker 3: Was said the car was falling cars? Oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: I looked because of the old jaz because he said
Speaker 3: he said, your cars screaming like a cat.
Speaker 1: That most funny. Yeah, I take it back, y'all are right?
Speaker 1: What did you guys think about it? Come around about
Speaker 1: roxy to the what about the scene after they get
Speaker 1: the jewelry he goes trying to cash it in? This
Speaker 1: is good? This was this is really good? What this was?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: Boy? Was this that was episode? Was this after that one?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Because he had got the stuff by this time, in fact,
Speaker 2: and he left. Did y'all go ahead into that? What's
Speaker 2: the question the scene that where they took the jewelry?
Speaker 2: That did you suspect the dude to set them up?
Speaker 1: I know what a point? Know what the point that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: baby was so good in this. What the are you
Speaker 1: looking at it twice for?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What you right? What are we doing? So we wanted
Speaker 1: all this information when we're gonna said the.
Speaker 2: Man, Jason Baby was man. But did y'all expect him
Speaker 2: to get out of that? That's what I'm saying. They
Speaker 2: were good about that. They were good at making the
Speaker 2: thing like how the hell he's gonna get out of this?
Speaker 2: And he'll find a way out, Like he shouldn't have
Speaker 2: got out of this, you know.
Speaker 1: Like making it making it escape that easy somebody like
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, he should have even got it easy.
Speaker 2: First of all, it was stupid to even go to
Speaker 2: the duror that he set up like that made no
Speaker 2: sense because of course that's where uh Mancatty or whatever
Speaker 2: his name was going to love. But that's what that's
Speaker 2: the only way he can get the money. Though he
Speaker 2: had to know anybody else you got at the time,
Speaker 2: he didn't have the time to do that.
Speaker 1: He sure didn't. Yeah, he wasn't to lose. Lose.
Speaker 2: I don't think the thought dude was gonna set him
Speaker 2: up because he wouldn't have got That's why you think that.
Speaker 1: That's what he was trying, because he knew that at
Speaker 1: some point somebody could come for that. That's what I
Speaker 1: got you.
Speaker 2: But that guy has ties to them, right, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: that he thought the money was gonna overwhelm overwhelming. You have, dude,
Speaker 2: be like, well, I just take his money. I ain't
Speaker 2: gotta say nothing, but like, you're right, he do got
Speaker 2: tied to the family, so they would have known. They only,
Speaker 2: like you said, it was only one of two places
Speaker 2: you could take it, all right, guys, some other guy.
Speaker 1: You don't know this is true. Yeah, we didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of options, like the jewelry ponds. I thought
Speaker 1: that was really stupid because I don't understand why he
Speaker 1: had to go to that guy either, because because it
Speaker 1: was I thought he found it. He didn't have much time.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he stole. I know that changes everything
Speaker 1: that sounds, but what else would you have done with
Speaker 1: What would you get on the train go to a
Speaker 1: different He was leaving town anyway, but he needed the
Speaker 1: money before he left him. Yeah, he needed the money.
Speaker 1: Why the trains are cheap.
Speaker 3: And he didn't need it for anything one of the
Speaker 3: necklaces or something to a pawn shop. This is why
Speaker 3: he ain't no fucking visionary. Take one of the necklaces
Speaker 3: to the pawn tree, get enough money to get out
Speaker 3: of town, and then everything.
Speaker 1: Was cloyah everything the middle of the night. No because
Speaker 1: I thought he went and no it wasn't because he
Speaker 1: went to that Asian shop and got a fucking phone.
Speaker 1: Well he could have got money for them. Argument.
Speaker 3: Nah, fuck that, stop arguing. Hey, bro, here's a necklace.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a necklace. Here's a you know
Speaker 3: you give me a phone and give me fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: I'm leaving town and then I'm gonna sell the ship when.
Speaker 1: I get to Jersey. I'm not selling it to the
Speaker 1: same guy that knows the deaf dude. But it's for
Speaker 1: sure money.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get for sure money because it's all nice jewelry.
Speaker 3: Just sell one of the things to get out of town.
Speaker 3: Take a l well literally take the l unto take
Speaker 3: an l trade to the next town, get out, and
Speaker 3: then sell it somewhere there. I was like, why are
Speaker 3: you going to the dude that was part of the
Speaker 3: original scam, you stupid fuck.
Speaker 1: I did not think that where he was going until
Speaker 1: he went. I think that was the only way that
Speaker 1: they would put him in the position of where he
Speaker 1: would be in danger. That's the only way to ride, yeah,
Speaker 1: to get him call.
Speaker 2: And then I didn't like how convenient it was that
Speaker 2: his brother was riding by and just so happened to
Speaker 2: be able to pick him up.
Speaker 1: And then they go to chase where he was.
Speaker 2: Didn't he No, I don't think it was he headed
Speaker 2: to him or was he headed to the juristo You'm
Speaker 2: talk about episode eight now when his brother found him?
Speaker 1: How did I thought that was real? Like, did he know?
Speaker 1: You get? Okay? What whatever? The brother went and found
Speaker 1: him after he said he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he knew where to go find Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: got you right? What did you guys think about the ending?
Speaker 1: What I mean? Whatever else? You want to kidding? You know,
Speaker 1: my reviews ain't three hours. But because you're you're born,
Speaker 1: that's why not even engaged.
Speaker 4: I was trying to Rob, was trying to look at
Speaker 4: his trying to get his notes, because I did like
Speaker 4: trying to help you out. I did like some of
Speaker 4: your questions go ahead, shoot, well, well you're going through
Speaker 4: the episodes now, so it kind of.
Speaker 1: Episode we just haven't we derailed that. So we were
Speaker 1: talking about characters. Did y'all have a favorite character? No,
Speaker 1: a favorite character. Mine was the black dude.
Speaker 2: Really liked.
Speaker 1: Boy the whole time. I was like, if you don't
Speaker 1: get out here with this fake accent. I liked he
Speaker 1: was loyal. It wasn't believable. It was that you're some
Speaker 1: like big time actor, a rapper, whether is supposed to be.
Speaker 1: They didn't say what he was. He was.
Speaker 2: He made music and then he transitioned into other things.
Speaker 2: But your best friend slept with your girl, and you
Speaker 2: go to the party and say, I just want the best, for.
Speaker 1: The best, for a step and it just happened.
Speaker 2: Rich They were together for they were together since the beginning.
Speaker 2: How many years, like fifteen years or whatever they've been
Speaker 2: running that place.
Speaker 1: That made zero sense, zero sense.
Speaker 3: God, I feel you good, Writtence, but I'm not going
Speaker 3: to go to you as my friend and be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I just want her to be happy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to your little party. Oh somebody got
Speaker 1: a gun to your head, Hey man, No, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: risk my life for you. That makes sense. That trying
Speaker 1: to yeah, trying to stop the robbery brous He told
Speaker 1: you take one more step. I'm gonna shoot you. Clearly, Jake,
Speaker 1: can hear you from where you are? Why do you
Speaker 1: need to get closer? Stay your ass over? There made
Speaker 1: no sense which one shot him? The junior shot him.
Speaker 1: Do y'all think that he thought that that was Vince?
Speaker 1: That who thought? Who was vinced? Wes?
Speaker 2: Do you think I have no idea? You don't think
Speaker 2: nobody knew? The only one person that was vinced was Jake.
Speaker 2: And that's because that damn glove didn't fit.
Speaker 1: It's because he was trying to take the watch.
Speaker 2: No. Remember, we looked at him so fucked up. He
Speaker 2: looked at his glove and all he saw was the
Speaker 2: pinky still out.
Speaker 1: Because he was he was like, and then he looked,
Speaker 1: that's that's hilarious. He should take the pinky. He did
Speaker 1: get his pink crazy, I want expecting that for his pinky.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. I thought, Yeah, that was I thought.
Speaker 2: And then how real they made? He was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're hitting bone. I thought Vince was pretending to go
Speaker 2: along with the robbery to protect his brother. I didn't
Speaker 2: know he was really doing the robbery. I think it
Speaker 2: was a love bit of both.
Speaker 1: I do too. I thought it was a little bit
Speaker 1: of both. I think it was he was robbing them. Yeah, no, yes, no, bro,
Speaker 1: he took off.
Speaker 2: How do you protect them to what he took off
Speaker 2: with the jewel rod. That's when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he was doing this for real, for real? Absolutely wait
Speaker 2: wait he trying to give him money from it though,
Speaker 2: when he trying to give him money from it or
Speaker 2: trying to pay off the debt or something like that,
Speaker 2: he took the money to.
Speaker 1: He took the jury. He said, that's how he was
Speaker 1: gonna fix it. Yeah, that's how he was gonna get then,
Speaker 1: because he did end up fixing it, right, yeah he was,
Speaker 1: but they still needed that. Yes. Oh he said he
Speaker 1: only did it because he got called the train. Come on,
Speaker 1: y'all know he wants he didn't want his brother to
Speaker 1: be be like harm. That's why he killed Junior exactly.
Speaker 1: He wasn't. He didn't plan to kill Junior. I don't know. Anyway.
Speaker 1: This was my favorite character, Figures. Figures. He was complex.
Speaker 1: I liked him complex. He was in what way? He
Speaker 1: was the most simple motherfucker on this He was not?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was not. He was the most
Speaker 1: complex character on this show. What are y'all?
Speaker 3: He was a faking standard crackheadad. He was a crack
Speaker 3: acutely wanted to crack crack head logic. Man, I thing
Speaker 3: the thing about him he was he was charming. The
Speaker 3: people liked him. He's he was right.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't like the fact that that that women were
Speaker 2: getting raped in in in the in the not saying
Speaker 2: that that makes it person because no one should think that.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is.
Speaker 2: That he had.
Speaker 3: But but nah, man, he cared about his brother. He
Speaker 3: always wanted to protect him, Like, yeah, now I will
Speaker 3: I wait for the complexity because he was a fun up.
Speaker 2: At the same time, he's a fun up, but I
Speaker 2: feel like he was a visionary, you know, how to
Speaker 2: get shipped done and he was willing to put his
Speaker 2: life on the line for it.
Speaker 1: Why did because she tripped and fell in bangor head? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah what context did thatd know? How did it happens?
Speaker 1: Told them because he's a idiot, he was. His life
Speaker 1: was on the line. He had him make gunpoint. He
Speaker 1: didn't have to tell them that part he accident.
Speaker 2: He felt bad about it. He felt bad about it,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. Something But they had his back
Speaker 2: against the wall.
Speaker 1: He could have easily said I don't know her name.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't take it. There was no reason for him
Speaker 1: to slip.
Speaker 3: Up and say, Anna, no brother's restaurant. He could have
Speaker 3: been like, bro, I just came in town. I don't
Speaker 3: know her name.
Speaker 1: That's what he was trying to do.
Speaker 2: But they kept forcing them, and because of that, that's
Speaker 2: how they ended up walking on the side of the
Speaker 2: highway neckd and that's how the robbery happened. Because Jake
Speaker 2: had to get them out of that situation.
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't go to kill her.
Speaker 3: They went too scared. She ended up dying by this
Speaker 3: by accident. I know, they should not even know who the.
Speaker 1: Fuck she was.
Speaker 2: And they were witnesses, which is why they once they
Speaker 2: got the money, they had to also kill them too.
Speaker 1: I'll get you, I'll get you.
Speaker 2: But it all was because events stupid ass it was.
Speaker 3: It really was he kept them off off their asses,
Speaker 3: when when that was the reason, by giving by giving
Speaker 3: up where she is, that kept that kept them off
Speaker 3: They assid No, it made it worse.
Speaker 1: It made it worse because she died.
Speaker 3: So you really don't think they were gonna kill her
Speaker 3: at some point they were. They were surprisedly died. I
Speaker 3: think they were just trying to scare her. They were
Speaker 3: surprised she died because she fell and banged her head.
Speaker 3: Ye yeah, yeah, they didn't ain't going there with the
Speaker 3: intention of killing her.
Speaker 1: They were going to hurt her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were wanting to. Yeah, and who knows what
Speaker 2: else they want to do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna rape her again. Yeah. Who was your favorite character?
Speaker 1: I didn't have one, Tony Roxy. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Y'all are are homophobes and misogynists, racist, a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of other any other supporting characters that stood out to you?
Speaker 1: Tony?
Speaker 3: I ride with Tony bro Tony was tight. I had
Speaker 3: no problem when he came back to the end. I
Speaker 3: was like, thank god, I really want them to kill
Speaker 3: my boy Tony.
Speaker 1: What was there not to like? Because he was a
Speaker 1: snitch too. See this is that. This is that dumb
Speaker 1: rap ship that y'all got wrapped up in. This is
Speaker 1: the don't wrap. So he's a snitch. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think Tony had legit reasons for doing he
Speaker 2: was doing it was It was definitely because of Anna.
Speaker 1: There are two reasons why Tony wasn't that bad. But rock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but because Tony was like, oh, whenever about this stuff.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh you think this is real? Huh,
Speaker 2: this is a scale, so fucking stupid. And then what
Speaker 2: was the second was like he said, honey, she got
Speaker 2: raped by a rich man and mysteriously died in her bathroom.
Speaker 1: Roxy's stupid ass believe everything. I don't think she believed
Speaker 1: that part. She went along with the accidental death. Tony
Speaker 1: was the one that made it clear for yes, because
Speaker 1: she because all of them.
Speaker 2: Did, she had an accident and died and and uh,
Speaker 2: but when when because Tony didn't know about the rape,
Speaker 2: so when and she's yeah, yeah, when he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, she got raped by Jewels, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh wait a minute, No, no, no, honey, hmm. And
Speaker 2: that's when she that's when Tony got involved.
Speaker 3: But it kind of makes sense she would believe that though, now, yeah,
Speaker 3: because she was kind of a not the most scrupulous person, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she clearly did have and these streat knowledge or whatever.
Speaker 3: It seemed like I would understand, especially after you just
Speaker 3: got raped. I could see, you know, you're probably depressed
Speaker 3: by doing drugs. You tripped and fell and banged your
Speaker 3: head in the bathroom. I don't know that I would
Speaker 3: immediately jump to, oh, somebody murder her.
Speaker 1: Man, poor Anna, Bro. And she found out she had
Speaker 1: to leave and she was crying. Oh god, oh man,
Speaker 1: that was sad. Man. Yeah, Rob the fuck Look everybody
Speaker 1: was disgusting.
Speaker 3: He like, Man, I was trying to remember. I thought
Speaker 3: she didn't want to work there. Well, I know why
Speaker 3: she didn't want to work there, but I thought she
Speaker 3: she did. I'm talking about when that guy to town
Speaker 3: the city.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was anyway. Did y'all think Vince's suicide
Speaker 1: was redemption cowardness? Bro? That shit caught me off. I
Speaker 1: was like I was too. I didn't think that was what.
Speaker 1: I thought. He was just gonna go to jail. What
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna kill itself. I definitely thought. Really,
Speaker 1: I did not think he was.
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was gonna do that. I thought
Speaker 2: they set it up good.
Speaker 1: It was just the way they framed it like they
Speaker 1: we couldn't see him. Yeah, I thought set it up
Speaker 1: he was good and that made him more shocking.
Speaker 2: But I thought when he went to go put the
Speaker 2: stuff in the safe, I thought what he was about
Speaker 2: to do was go turn himself into the cops or
Speaker 2: turn himself into Mancati or whatever his name was.
Speaker 1: Even when he was on the roof, I never thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna like kill himself. I ain't never seen vinces.
Speaker 1: He knew he would gonna make it in jail.
Speaker 2: So I feel like he was just like this and
Speaker 2: I fucked up everybody life exactly like I'm a fuck up.
Speaker 1: And he's just about jumping off, didn't he, Which is
Speaker 1: why I thought he.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't, because they said, oh no, I thought that, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: he's about to kill himself because he was already sad
Speaker 3: about that little dude in the wheelchair.
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Damn Trevor Jesus. So I was like off complex.
Speaker 1: He was sad about it, but that was kind of
Speaker 1: not complex about it. Crackheads can get can get sad.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: He was that guy's in a wheelchair because of events.
Speaker 1: Because Vince is a fucking idiot. He said, here I went.
Speaker 1: I got. That's why he said. I jumped, and I
Speaker 1: looked he wasn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe you shouldn't have looked back, Maybe you should have
Speaker 3: been looking forward. That's the stupidest reason end up in
Speaker 3: a wheelchair. You jumped off a building and someone.
Speaker 1: Told you to crazy. Was the ending satisfying? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you can because they had kind
Speaker 2: of been setting up when I thought about it, they
Speaker 2: kind of set up the whole him falling off the
Speaker 2: roof because Trevor kept saying, you owe me a jump,
Speaker 2: and they kept kind of bringing it back, bringing it back.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of poetic justice. I bet Trevor Field
Speaker 1: he just the day before told that we hold him
Speaker 1: a jump, and he found where he really jumped.
Speaker 2: Right, roll myself off some stairs or something, and Vince
Speaker 2: probably thought, this is you know, this is the way
Speaker 2: to do it because of what happened with Lieutenant Dan
Speaker 2: and that.
Speaker 3: I'm not killing myself jumping off no building. You better
Speaker 3: give me some pills like a real bitch.
Speaker 1: Which yaself here. No, I just left town. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: why do I he die? I'll give you the money.
Speaker 1: I'll go be a crackhead somewhere else. Again. I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like he needed He felt like he
Speaker 1: needed to die to pay off the debt. The debt
Speaker 1: was paid off because he would.
Speaker 2: Have still killed killed. This goes beyond your law enforcement.
Speaker 2: This is the game because he wasn't because he was gone,
Speaker 2: he would his brothers, family in danger, and his daughter.
Speaker 3: Actually, though, how did he know that killing himself was
Speaker 3: going to satisfy the death dude? How did he know
Speaker 3: the death dude wouldn't still be like, wait, well he
Speaker 3: just died. I want to kill somebody, so I'm going
Speaker 3: to go because he did went to's house he didn't know,
Speaker 3: and he was going to kill him, and then Jake said,
Speaker 3: well he's you know, Vince is already dead.
Speaker 1: So how did he know that the death dude wasn't
Speaker 1: going to go kill I think he had a certain code. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't know child, so he probably knew what that.
Speaker 1: But he don't know what he's thinking because he can't
Speaker 1: resign language. He don't know what that dude's saying in
Speaker 1: the pool and they were talking to him. I thought
Speaker 1: that was dope.
Speaker 2: And they had the flash of light, oh yes, to
Speaker 2: get his attention. Yeah, when they went to tell him
Speaker 2: hisself was dead and they were calling him, but.
Speaker 1: It was dope and he couldn't hear the flash of
Speaker 1: light at him. It was kind of cool because I
Speaker 1: was like, bro, y'all don't know he could throw some
Speaker 1: pebbles out, turn around or something no hit him in
Speaker 1: his back.
Speaker 2: He can feel And when the sun Junior was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't hear ship actually in the car, he was like, man,
Speaker 2: what kind of a cut are you.
Speaker 1: About? His own dad? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was deep. He's like, we can't we can't
Speaker 3: choose our own family. I think, dude, play that well
Speaker 3: because you can.
Speaker 1: Tell that hurt. Yeah, damn that ship was good man.
Speaker 3: And then when they when they when he went to
Speaker 3: go like the deaf dude went to the friend, thinking
Speaker 3: that the friend was involved.
Speaker 1: He was like, I loved him like a brother. Wow,
Speaker 1: do nothing like this. That wasn't me.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, ship man, Yeah, it was like
Speaker 2: and then he said you've been a disappointment my whole
Speaker 2: life or something like that.
Speaker 1: He was cutting Junior. He did, she was. He was
Speaker 1: think else stand out, y'all want to dress on before
Speaker 1: we wrap this up. It was cool. It was cool.
Speaker 1: It was inane. Definitely. It definitely was a nice I
Speaker 1: don't think I think you had a question in there.
Speaker 1: I think this should be it. I know what they
Speaker 1: can't focus it on brothers, but it's like a good
Speaker 1: show without no them going back and forth. This is
Speaker 1: the first time working together I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I said together they were great, fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird hearing Jason Bateman be like kind of
Speaker 3: like a tough guy though, but he did play really well.
Speaker 1: Being on Brungy and Ship like that.
Speaker 3: He did a great just when he was punking him,
Speaker 3: like when he was just like sessions me again. Then
Speaker 3: through his keys and Ship, I was like, oh, that
Speaker 3: was one of my favorite.
Speaker 1: A little back and forth right there through the keys
Speaker 1: and then Jake through the keys get a bit. Damn.
Speaker 1: I've never seen Jason paper that row. He's such a
Speaker 1: good actor man. He needed to do more. He wasn't
Speaker 1: good after before I'm with you, Yeah he was good.
Speaker 1: Maybe before that he needed to do. You liked him
Speaker 1: in Family Ties where the it was I see something
Speaker 1: in that guy, the older brother. I liked him and
Speaker 1: something arrested flamy. He was good. It was something else,
Speaker 1: not like no one. I don't know. I didn't see
Speaker 1: like he sees it that nobody else. I just liked him.
Speaker 2: On the Highway neked is crazy. That was crazy and
Speaker 2: it's New York, so I guess nobody even looked at.
Speaker 3: Like to play a team with Jason Bateman, he didn't
Speaker 3: team with That's right, yep, that was yeah.
Speaker 1: That was good to Yeah, my favorite movies. I ain't
Speaker 1: know't gotta go see Port to Place. It is good.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all.
Speaker 2: That has been our review of the Netflix show Black Rabbit.
Speaker 2: Y'all haven't seen it, go check it out there, listen
Speaker 2: to the review and if you have, we enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. We out peace,