1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Bring on more of the Epstein files. It's all I want. 4 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: It's all I can ask for more and more and 5 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: more and more now, just because somebody is listed in 6 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: these files connected to Jeffrey Epstein, the quote unquote financier, 7 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: the guy who was engaged in providing underage sex to 8 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: people seemingly across America. Who who was allowed to kill himself? Win, Queen, 9 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: nudge nudge. I think I'm the only person who holds 10 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Bill Barr responsible for this. You let this guy be 11 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: in jail, You didn't have guards on him, you didn't 12 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: have him watched. Camera wasn't working. One guy's look at 13 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: this way. One guy falls asleep. Next thing you know, 14 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: he kills himself. And hey, we've got nothing with the 15 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: video shows it, with the video shows and nothing. You 16 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: let this happen. We wanted answers, and then Trump was like, 17 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: why is anybody paying attention to this? Oh, a massive misread. 18 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: And we said we want answers, and people, uh, some 19 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: people on the political rights said, but Trump said, we 20 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't pay attention to this, and it's the wrong subject. 21 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: And we said, don't you tell us of how to 22 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: be supportive of President Trump. We want answers because he 23 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: works for us and not this other way around craziness. 24 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, that's me, by the way, Tony kat today, 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 2: good to be with you. Eight three three got Tony 26 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: eight three three four six eight eight six six. No, 27 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: we're not gonna get told how to be loyalist. We're 28 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: not loyalists. We voted for Trump because Trump could do 29 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: the things that we wanted done. Wanted a secure border boom, 30 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: voted for Trump, got a secure border, wanted to drain 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: the swamp and get rid of the madness and the fraud, 32 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: wast abuse Boom. We got doged. We at least got started, 33 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: and then for some reason we stopped, which I think 34 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: is a really bad idea. We need to get back 35 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: to that immediately, if not sooner. Because you think that 36 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: we've got fraud just in Minnesota when it comes to 37 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: daycare centers, Ah, the fraud is everywhere. Could you imagine 38 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: what we could do with all of the money we're 39 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: spending on the fraud and abuse. How about just giving 40 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: it back to the people. How about reducing the size 41 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: and scope of government. But if you want to do 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: something with it, how about ensuring that we have enough 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: nurses and doctors going forward, and not nurses and doctors 44 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: who are being indoctrinated into this absolute nonsense of medicine 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: that's based on well, if I don't like your religion 46 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: or political stance, I'll let you die. How about a 47 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: medicine where we don't say, well, you check off this 48 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: box in that box on the diversity scale, so we 49 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: don't care about your grades. It's okay if you go 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: treat grandma and she dies quick. You don't think that's happening. 51 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: We all know it's happening. People not able to be 52 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: up to snuff of all races and all creeds and 53 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: everywhere else being pushed through the system. We get substandard 54 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: medical care. Bad, bad, bad idea. But when it came 55 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: to the Epstein files, hey, Trump says, we shouldn't be 56 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: paying attention to this. We shouldn't be paying attention to this. 57 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: Now you're wrong, We're right. We want all the files everywhere. Now, 58 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: it did lead to a question, if you release all 59 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: the files, are you going to release redacted information? Are 60 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: you going to really tell victims they have to be outed. 61 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: I didn't want that, and I was willing to accept 62 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: the fact that there would be some redactions that would 63 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: take time to get all that done. And with that said, 64 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: still said, dear lord, I want these things released. Well 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: now you've got a huge, huge dump of documents, millions 66 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: of documents, and what the document show is people are 67 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: still going through them as a whole host of things 68 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: and connections with people in sports and people in celebrity 69 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: culture and entertainment. The question before us is were these 70 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: people involved on the island. Were these people involved in 71 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: their homes having Jeffrey Epstein or Julaine Maxwell or anybody 72 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: else bringing them young children to abuse? That is the 73 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: only question. The people who on a scream Trump as 74 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: a pedophile, they're just pathetic fools. You're so desperate to 75 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: be political you can't actually take into account that children 76 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: were abused and we should find the people who abuse 77 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: them and throw them in jail. Screaming Trump is a 78 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: pedophile is as dumb of an argument as there is 79 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: out there. It's as absolutely stupid and brain dead as 80 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: Billie eilis screaming blank ice, which she's saying as she's 81 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: accepting a Grammy yesterday. We're living on stolen land, blank Ice. 82 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: You child people get killed and you don't care because 83 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: you can pay for the security. Don't you know you're 84 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: part of the problem. You're not above it all. You're 85 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: not kind, You're not decent. Billy Eilish, you're not a 86 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: good person. Who told you you're a good person. Your brother, 87 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: he's not a good person either. You don't think people 88 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: should be protected in their home from illegal immigrants, and 89 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: you think law enforcement is somehow wrong for doing the 90 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: job that's on the books, voted for by Democrats. Dear God, Billy, 91 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: do you ever actually think before you speak? You think 92 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: you're good. You should stop thinking you're good. You should 93 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: stop thinking this because you're not. You're not. It doesn't 94 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: matter what your fans say. The facts are. What you 95 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: believe is everybody else should suffer while you have guns 96 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: keeping people away. Disgusting stuff. Disgusting stuff is thinking that 97 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: anybody associated with abusing children should be able to get 98 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: away with it. So yes, I want the Epstein files. 99 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: I want them all. I want every single file everywhere 100 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: I can get my hands on a file, and I 101 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: want the information released. Which brings us to Senator John Kennedy, 102 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Senator Kennedy, who is out there speaking with CNN on 103 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: this exact subject. 104 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: Kennedy, another important story I want to get to the 105 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: Justice Department finally releasing its TRANSHA files related to Jeffrey Epstein. 106 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: They did so on Friday. The Deputy Attorney General, Todd 107 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: Blast says, the Department of Justice is not considering bringing 108 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: any additional charges related to Epstein. Is that acceptable to you? 109 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know yet. They haven't released all the documents. 110 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: That's my understanding. 111 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: They released three million additional pages, but there are reports 112 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: that are another three million are still being held. 113 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: Here are the two things that I'm fairly certain of. 114 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: Number One, this issue is not going to go away 115 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: until the Justice Department releases every single document, every single picture, 116 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: every single email. 117 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: And you want them to do that. 118 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: I want them to do that. I've said that from 119 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: day one. Number Two, there are some of my colleagues 120 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: who have boldly stood on the floor of their respective 121 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: bodies and said, we know who needs to be prosecuted. 122 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: We have the names. 123 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Now. 124 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: There are only two possible reasons for them saying that. One, 125 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: maybe they're on real strong drugs, or number two, they 126 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: know If they know and they're making those kind of allegations, 127 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: then by god, they ought to give us the names, 128 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: and they ought to be prepared for the litigation that 129 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: follows that they're wrong. 130 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: Now I agree that we can't be playing this game 131 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: of not getting the information. I want it all. I 132 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: want every last bit of the information. If we can't 133 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: see our way clear to not being political about this 134 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: but saying who's abusing children? If we can't do that 135 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: on both sides of the aisle, you have only begun 136 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: to understand exactly how far gone we are as a 137 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: society and why I have made the argument here repeatedly 138 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: that the only way out is through COVID came and 139 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: we couldn't agree on how we were going to address COVID. 140 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: We said, let's just everybody fall back to their fiefdom 141 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: and attack each other politically. It was ridiculous. Children get 142 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: abused and we say, how can we hit the other 143 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: side with this, as opposed to let's find the abusers. 144 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Do you want to protect an abuser because they're in 145 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: your party? The founders warned about party. John Adams and 146 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Thomas Jefferson were concerned about parties, and really, you can 147 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: get into this to the federalist papers and the idea 148 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: of factions and how issue maatic this is. But I 149 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: think that to a large degree, we fall into groups 150 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: of people who agree on certain things, and then that's 151 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: how we operate. We're not a larger group of people 152 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: that opposes the abuse of children. That is what we're 153 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: saying here. These people who are attacking Ice were not 154 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: part of a larger group of people that says we 155 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: are a nation of laws and people who broke the 156 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: law should be held to account. Well, those people are 157 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: saying no, they shouldn't be held to account. And if 158 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: Ice changed all their tactics to where all they did 159 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: was layout cotton candy is a way to trap people, 160 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh my gosh, they're trying to give 161 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: all these illegal immigrants bad teeth and diabetes. They would 162 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: never think that anything was okay. They are too far gone. 163 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: We're too far gone on finding child abusers. I don't 164 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that information. 165 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how any of us are supposed to 166 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: process that information. How far gone are we as a society, 167 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: so absolutely dependent on our political systems that we won't 168 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: recognize Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal, moderate, independent, doesn't matter. 169 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: Somebody who is sexually abusing a thirteen year old needs 170 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: to go to jail. But no, seemingly we're not there. 171 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: Back to Senator Kennedy, but. 172 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: This has gone on long enough. The American people don't 173 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: trust government. That's the fault of both sides. And if 174 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: I were they, I would release every single document and picture. 175 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: We'll see if that protect the victims. 176 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: But do it, yeah, and redact the pictures of the 177 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: nude girls and women. 178 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 4: Well, I don't even know if I would do that. 179 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: I would redact their faces, would I would protect their privacy? 180 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: I haven't researched it. 181 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 4: But any any simple excuse that people can find not 182 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: to believe the Justice Department, they're going they're going to 183 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: to believe it. 184 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: It's a very interesting position he just put out there, 185 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: which is normally, maybe redact all those things. But when 186 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: nobody believes, when nobody trusts the the the institutions, you 187 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: have to release as much as you can to try 188 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: and rebuild the trust. So no, don't redact. That is 189 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: something else. That is something else for him to say. 190 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: It's a harsh statement, but you get an idea of 191 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: where it's coming from. I have not yet because I 192 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: was away for the weekend. I was at a conference, 193 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: and so I haven't yet gone through everything that is 194 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: in these in In this latest batch, there's stuff that 195 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: involves the NFL and I think the Tish family, which 196 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: is connected to the New York Giants. There have been 197 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: some people who are in academia who have now resigned 198 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: because of connections. There was a thing about Daniel Stern, 199 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 2: the former NBA commissioner, and orgies. You think I can 200 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: make this up? You think there's any part of me that, 201 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: in my normal course of being would say Daniel Stern 202 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: an orgy in the same sentence. And I wasn't talking 203 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: about the guy from Home alone, which I also would 204 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: not do. It's hard to make a joke about these things. 205 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 2: One should not do that. I want to know who 206 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: abuse children. I want them in jail. That's what we 207 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: should all know. That's what we should all want. People 208 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: want to be political, Well, you're talking about this because 209 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: you don't want to talk about the other thing. Wait, 210 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: I thought I was talking about the other thing because 211 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about this. I will go 212 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: through more of it. I'll have more of it this week. 213 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: The subject is not going away. Release more of the files. 214 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats. This is Tony Kats today,