1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: At the Lounge Parks Place Pub up in Fisher's as 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: the Indian Knite have their draft party for the Pro 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Volleyball League and the pick is in for the Ignite 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: and they go with it, and why not? 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Why not? 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: Thank you Eddie. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: With the first pick and the Professional Volleyball Draft, the 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Indian Ignite select Kara Crease from the University of ub 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: but most importantly from Fort Wayne. Fort Wayne Blackhawk, a 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: six foot six middle blocker who was seventh in the 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: nation last year in college volleyball in blocks, is now 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: a member of the Indie Ignite. And that is a 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: player that I think they really had their eye on 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: with that fifth overall pick. So a loud ovation you 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: may have heard when that selection was made. There will 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: be plenty of ovations like that for Indiana fans if 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: they are able to win the Old Oak and Bucket 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: and of course tomorrow against Kansas State and basketball joining 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: us now on the Java House Peel and poor guest line. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: He is the voice of the Hoosiers in both sports 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: and we will once again, don I'm going to give 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: you recipient choice. Do you want to talk with football 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: first or basketball first? The decision is yours. Don Fisher, 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: Well. 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: Football has been prominent, of course throughout the year until 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: this past week in which they had a bye week, 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 4: which came at a perfect time. 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: So let's just touch on football first. 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with that in terms of and I 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: want to touch on that, Don, because when a team 32 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: is unblemished, as Indiana has been, and it has been 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: a year, obviously, they still own in my opinion, the 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: best winning college football this year, winning at Oregon. You know, 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: everybody knows the story of the team. But when you 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: say comes at the perfect time, I'm always curious about 37 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: bye weeks in terms of winnings, the most advantageous period. 38 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: You say it comes at the perfect time for them 39 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: for this team. 40 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: Why primarily because they have They had six games in 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: a row, Jake, that were really all critical ballgames throughout 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: this season, and a couple of them were really really 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: exceptional in that sense because you talk about the Iowah 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: Hawk guys and the. 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Penn State Nitne Lyons and Oregon on top of that. 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: So these last six weeks have been a grind speak. 47 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: Indiana has won several of those balls and comfortable margins 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: without Christians, but they've also had a couple of grinders 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: in there too, and so at this point in the season, 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: and I could tell in Coach Signetti's comments and everything 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: else leading up to that bye week that their team 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: was tired. 53 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: There's no question about that. 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: They were a little bit out of gas, so to speak, 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: not from the norm of being able to win a 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: football game, but just simply being tired and a little 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: bit lethargic. That Wisconsin first half wasn't very good and 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 4: they were just up ten seven at a half time, 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: and of course then they closed them out with four 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: touchdowns on the second half. 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: But it's a team really that needed. 62 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: This time this week bye week to get dings and injuries. 63 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: And those kinds of things cleaned up to some degree. 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: Hopefully they've gotten a couple of these guys back with 65 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: that bye week. In the number of weeks that some 66 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: of them have missed, ie Elijah Surratt of being out 67 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: of the lineup for the last three ball games, and 68 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: Khalil Benson's been banged up, but he's been. 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: Able to play. 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: He's come off the field two or three times in 71 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: the last couple of ballgames and was really hobbling on 72 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 4: that ankle, and he's had a chance to get better, 73 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: and we still don't know the status and Drew Evans 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: or Brendan Frankie, who's their kickoff man. Frankie's been missing 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: for I think six weeks now. I'm hoping that maybe 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: he gets back for this final stretch here, if Indiana 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: is to have that against Purdue and then maybe in 78 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: the Big Ten Championship game and then maybe in the CFP. 79 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: So right now, this is a perfect time to have 80 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 4: had this rest, and there's no question they'll be ready 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: for the Old Loca Bucket game on Friday night. 82 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Don listen, I realize that I'm preaching to the choir here, 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: and I realize that this is probably not even a 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: dead horse we're beating, but a tub of glue at 85 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: this point. But at the same time, if you ever 86 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: find yourself saying to yourself, I'm talking about the College 87 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Football Playoff for Indiana after the Bucket game, I mean 88 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it still is part 89 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: of me. Fifty percent of me thinks it's totally surreal, 90 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: and fifty percent of me says, no, this is where 91 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: this program is now, and yet they have such a 92 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: confidence about them that it feels like in fact they do. 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: You know they belong here, right, I mean, this is 94 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: the reality now of Indiana football, and there's no reason 95 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: to think that it's ever going to go away. But 96 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: it is still kind of pinch yourself category. Right, Well, 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: there's no question. 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: To have two seasons like we've had back to back, 99 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: it doesn't take away all of the negatives throughout the years, 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: and in you hata football, you're always going to have 101 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: a little bit of that doubt in the back of 102 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: your mind. When when is this going to end? Well, 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to end anytime soon. Kurtzignetti's 104 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: here for the long haul, based on everything that we 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: know at this point, based on the new contract in 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: those to think if you said I'm going to end 107 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: my career being a Hoosier, I love that, So I'm not. 108 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: I really believe this is the long haul for Indiana now. 109 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: I think this is what Indiana fans can expect. The 110 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: question is do they make the CFP? Do they will 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 4: they continue to do that on a consistent basis, and 112 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: will they be as powerful as they've looked here the 113 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: last two seasons. My gut is that they will but 114 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: we'll just have to wait and see. 115 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: And every year is a new year, and every year. 116 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: Is another year roster building and those kinds of things 117 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: out of the portal and that because that stuff is 118 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: just not going to change. So all I can tell 119 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: you at this point is we're just going to ride 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: that horse as long as we can't. 121 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Don I look at you know when you in particular, 122 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: you know Sarat is a wonderful player, right and he 123 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: has been everything that you would imagine and want from 124 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: a player to come with Kurt Signetti from JMU. But 125 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: yet when he got hurt and I take this, you 126 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: know as as no knock on what he brings to 127 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: this football team. But when he has been out now 128 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: Indiana's ability and notably to get Becker involved at the 129 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: receiving position. Does that speak more just about the overall 130 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: preparation of the roster by Kurt Signetti or is that 131 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: also somewhat responsible for Ananda Mendoza and his ability to 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: get guys involved, recognize them and carry on even when 133 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: one of his biggest weapons goes down. 134 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure it's a combination of both. There's a 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: little question that Becker has talent. He played some last year. 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: He was a really good player last year when he played, 137 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: and he didn't get much opportunity. This year, he's gotten 138 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: all kinds of opportunity over the last three ball games now, 139 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: and he even had some playing time prior to that, 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: but not to the significance of which, of course, with 141 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: elijaster rout out that he now is one of the 142 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: keys to this wide receiving corps, and without doubt he 143 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: has taken advantage of that. I also think it's a 144 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: part of the development because he was a freshman last 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: year and played some as a true freshman, and now 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: this year he's come out there and just established himself 147 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: as another guy they can count on. And whether that's 148 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: the starting role or coming in off the bench, he's 149 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: going to get playing time for the rest of the season. 150 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it, because he's very valuable. He's long, 151 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: he's six', four he's a little bit bigger than What 152 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: Elijah surrat is and he's faster Than Elijah. Surratt so 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: there's no doubt in my mind he's going to get. 154 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Played Don Don fisher is our, guest the radio voice 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: of The Indiana, hoosiers both in, football and basketball coaches 156 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: showed tonight it will follow The pacers game that will 157 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: be With darren De. Brees that Means i'm talking about 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: now the basketball side of. Things up next Is Kansas 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: state For indiana Don in terms of this, team and 160 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: we've talked about, this this. OFFENSE i love this offense 161 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: That darren De brees runs because AND i KNOW i 162 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Heard Brian evans talking about it WITH. Jmv you, know 163 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: you better get out and guard with them because they 164 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: got guys that can score, quickly you, know but then 165 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden if that shot is taken. Away 166 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: their ball movement for guys that are not familiar with 167 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: one another had been at the beginning of the year 168 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: has been really. Impressive but what area of this basketball 169 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: team is still leaving you a little bit intrigued that 170 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: you still have some questions about to see what they 171 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: can shore up before they get in the league play. 172 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: Well and this is going to sound a kind of 173 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: MAYBE i don't want to say, trite but here's one 174 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: of the things that we haven't had the total of 175 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: at this point from this basketball, team and that's the. 176 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: Roster they've had four guys out almost up until the 177 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: last week and a. 178 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: Half two weeks. 179 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: Now Nick, dorn a kid that everybody's talked about being 180 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: the third, shooter the third best shooter on this basketball, 181 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 4: team hadn't played until about three games. Back all of a, 182 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: sudden he's getting a little bit of playing. Time he 183 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: is showing that he's got the. Capability he hasn't gotten 184 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: into the kind of shape that he needs to at this, 185 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: point but he's going to help this team when he 186 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: is in full shape and when he is able to 187 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: play significant minutes on the. Court they haven't Seen Josh, 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: harris who's a six seven and six' eight kid out 189 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: of Nor florida that is nursing an injury of some, 190 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 4: kind AND i don't know. 191 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: What the injury. 192 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: Is they've got another guard by the name Of, Drake Jason, 193 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: drake who is a kid From, Gosh i'm spacing on it. Now, 194 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 4: anyway long story, short he's a point guard who can 195 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: help fill that. Role and Then Alex, ristich who is From, 196 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: serbia hasn't seen the playing floor because of a foot. 197 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: Injury so you've got these guys that are still waiting 198 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: in the wings to get their opportunities when they finally 199 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: heal up enough that they can put them on the. 200 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: Floor so we're not having seen the entire ball club right, 201 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: now and that's probably right. Now the biggest question mark 202 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 4: is to whether these other guys that are hurt can 203 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 4: really help this basketball. TEAM i can't see any reason 204 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: why they. CAN'T i saw them play In San juan 205 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: where they had all of these guys, available and there's 206 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: no doubt in my mind that these other guys can help. 207 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Them but you've got to wait and see until they 208 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: get back and see how they handle things and how 209 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: they are mentally from the injury, situation whether that's going 210 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: to be a. FACTOR i don't see a real weakness 211 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 4: with this, team with the exception of one. Thing they 212 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: don't have a ton of. Size they just simply do. 213 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: Not and the, rebounding you, know in The big ten is, 214 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: critical and if there's going to be a weakness on 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 4: this ball, club that's the one AREA i might take 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: a look at. 217 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: First Jason, drake by the, way From, DREXEL i, think and, admittedly, yeah, 218 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: yeah DON i, mean and with the transfer, portal it's, tough, 219 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean with guys trying to keep straight sometimes 220 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: with where all of them had come From do you 221 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: like Where indiana is, Defensively, well. 222 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: There's no question about. That they held Linden wood till 223 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: eighteen percent. 224 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 5: Shooting got another, player did they they? Held they held 225 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 5: lindon with the eighteen percent shooting in the first, half 226 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 5: in the second, half and the total for the ballgame 227 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 5: twenty five percent. Shooting this team plays as hard as 228 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: any team you're going to see on the defensive end 229 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: of the. Floor they may not stop, everybody BUT i 230 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: guarantee you they will challenge just about everything you try 231 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: to do out there from an offensive standpoint. 232 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Down one of the THINGS i like, is you, know 233 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: going out and playing say A Kansas. State you, know 234 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: anytime that a team can go out and play Other 235 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: power five, schools to, me it's advantageous because it can give, 236 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: you you, know, obviously you know what you're going up 237 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: against in terms of a stout opponent going into you, 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: know as opposed to nothing Against lendon WOULD i don't mean, 239 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: that but you know What i'm. Saying in terms of 240 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: the league, itself, Yeah indiana Has indiana faced a diversity 241 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: of different looks in different styles because when you get 242 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: into conference, play you, know you get teams that play different. 243 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: Ways do you feel like so far the schedule has 244 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: offered them various looks that they've had to adjust, to. 245 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 4: You, KNOW i think a significant, number But i'm not 246 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: sure it's all that they need to look. 247 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: At they have not faced a team that's, bigger you, 248 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: know a lot bigger than they are at this. 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: Point and The Kansas state roster doesn't pose you, know 250 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: a significant challenge in that area based. 251 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: On who they. Start they've got two six to nine. 252 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: Guys that are front liners for them and a guy 253 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: that comes off the. Bench IT'S i think six or 254 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 4: seven to, two, Kid BUT i don't know how much 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 4: you'll actually. Play so the game that they play Against 256 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 4: Kansas state will be just Because Kansas state is a 257 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: they are a tremendous offensive. Team at this point in the. 258 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: Season they're averaging ninety three points a ball. Game they're 259 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 4: giving up seventy, nine almost eighty points of contest at this, 260 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: juncture so we know that they probably will run a. 261 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: Run just Like indiana wants to. 262 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: Run but they are five starters are all averaging in double, 263 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: figures WITH. Pj haggerty of transfer From memphis averaging twenty 264 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: eight points In paul. Game so they've got some prolific 265 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: scores on this, team guys that can shoot the, three 266 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: and this is going to be a challenge in that. 267 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: Regard Indiana Kansas state tomorrow. Night it is The bucket 268 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: game coming up On. Friday Don fisher will be on 269 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: the call for both of, them and then of course 270 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: sandwiched in between Is. Thanksgiving So don a very very 271 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: Happy thanksgiving to. You appreciate the time as always and 272 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: again coaches show tonight after The pacers game on this radio. 273 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Station appreciate. It, don thank, You, jake appreciate. It see, 274 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: You DoD fisher joining me on the. Program, okay So 275 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: i've got to come up with a trivia. 276 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: Question. 277 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Yep that MEANS i got a text you the. Answer you, 278 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: know we should have chap come up with The tribua. 279 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Question you know, what, Here i'm gonna give you know 280 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: my favorite trivia question of all. Time let's bring On Mike. 281 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: CHAPEL i will send You eddie the answer to the 282 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: tribute QUESTION i come up. With it's not going to 283 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: be this, One Mike. Chapel i'm going to bring on 284 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: chap my all time, favorite And i've asked it on this. 285 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: Show two thousand and fifty. Times But i'm going to 286 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: put you on the, Spot Mike chapel with A colts trivia. 287 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: Question are you, ready? 288 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay who was the first ever draft pick of The Indianapolis, Colts. 289 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 6: Ron soult or THE dB leonard Cole Leonard, Coleman. 290 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: Baby leonard No, Is Leonard, Coleman Ron, Sult actually with. 291 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: One or the. 292 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: OTHER i Think Ron sult was he was the. First 293 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: he was the last first round pick Of, BALTIMORE i. 294 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: Believe But Leonard coleman was indeed the first draft pick 295 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: of The Indianapolis. Colts he went to THE usfl cornerback 296 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: out Of vanderbilt and then played for The colts after. 297 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: That Mike chaplin joining us on The Java House peel 298 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: and poor guest line Chap let's get right to this 299 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: yesterday At arrowhead and Then i'll Give eddie the tribute 300 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: question for the. Tickets Chap in your, Opinion Shane, steichen 301 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: what do you think was the overwhelming sentiment that caused 302 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: him to go a little bit conservative and get away 303 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: From Jonathan? Taylor or was he too aggressive because they're 304 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: going to the air instead Of Jonathan? Taylor what exactly 305 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: was the reason why we didn't See taylor much in 306 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: the fourth and. 307 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: Overtime. 308 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 6: Wow, Yeah and it's truly. Strange And i'll Be jake 309 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 6: and on meander a little bit. HERE i think he 310 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 6: Trusted Daniel jones more than he should have and and 311 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: then he and then they didn't. EXECUTE i, mean it's 312 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 6: hard for me to. BELIEVE i go back to What 313 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 6: Peyton manning has to tell me that he just hated 314 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 6: to run plays when he knew they wouldn't work their wasted. 315 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 6: Plays AND i think they really believed that they could 316 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 6: not run the ball on The. Chiefs and the final 317 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 6: numbers would show you, that and we would, argue, well running, 318 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 6: more running, more and he'll break a. Few BUT i 319 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: think they really believed after that two yard loss on 320 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: first and ten of their own six yard, line they 321 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 6: just decided That Daniel jones was going to win the 322 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 6: game for him or not and or not turn to 323 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 6: be So, Yeah and the problem with with Trusting Daniel 324 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 6: jones right now is THAT i don't trust. Him, uh that's. 325 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: Me. 326 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 6: Uh he has he has taken a step or two 327 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 6: back from what we saw the first eight. GAMES i 328 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 6: think pressures getting to. Him, uh there were no sacks, 329 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 6: yesterday but they got in his face AND i thought 330 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 6: they sped him. Up he, Missed he missed a few 331 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: guys that he hasn't, missed and he got away with 332 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: a couple that should have been. Interceptions so uh but, 333 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 6: yeah THEY i think they just. Trust they put the 334 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 6: ball in in In jones's. Hands both of it was 335 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 6: that one fourth and third and three their. MIDFIELD i 336 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: think on the on the on the last regular regular 337 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: uh regulation drive and he missed and he Led pittman too. 338 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 6: Much and if you complete, THAT i, mean it's totally 339 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: different they. HAD i realized they had an eleven point, 340 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 6: lead two position lead with the ball in the fourth, 341 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: quarter but it was that that person in ten at 342 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 6: your own. Six that's that's tough getting out of. There 343 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 6: but they had the ball twice twice when it was 344 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 6: twenty to, seventeen and each time pretty good field. Position 345 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 6: once was like on the thirty and, one the last 346 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 6: one was like on the forty. Nine AND i, WONDER 347 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 6: i really wonder that When sainstichin goes back and self, 348 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 6: scouts that's a good term we use. Nowadays if instead 349 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 6: of punting from THE kc forty five that he doesn't 350 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 6: go for what was, it fourth and fourth and? Three 351 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 6: because how many times have the rationale is? Sound, well 352 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 6: we pinned them back there with the. Penalty they were 353 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 6: back at like the six yard, line so the rationale. 354 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 6: Worked but It's Patrick mahomes and how many times have 355 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 6: we seen him take The chiefs to whatever they need 356 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 6: and either win the game tie the. GAME i would 357 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 6: this is one, where in, HINDSIGHT i think you stay, 358 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 6: aggressive or you be, aggressive whatever term you want to, 359 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 6: use and you try to, convert and if you, do 360 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 6: at the very least you're going to run some more 361 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 6: time off the. Clock maybe maybe you just find finally 362 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 6: find some rhythm when you run the clock, out you 363 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 6: go down and, score if you kick a field, goal 364 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 6: you make them go for a. TOUCHDOWN i really would 365 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 6: like to know if he would like to do over 366 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 6: on that last. Punt and as much as they lead 367 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: the league in FOUR d down conversions and being, aggressive SO 368 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 6: i wonder if you'd like that one over. 369 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: Again by the, Way, eddie here's the trivia. 370 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: Question Mike chaplin is our Guest Java House, Peeling poor 371 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: guest line everything by the way today At java house dot. 372 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: Com twenty five percent. 373 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Off and then you can add on to, that of, 374 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: Course jake twenty five, code you can double up the 375 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: discounts At. 376 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: Java house java house dot. 377 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Com put in my Name, jake and you can get 378 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: the fan Bundle. Eddie in terms of the tickets for 379 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: the text, line if you want to give your guests 380 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: at two three nine ten seventy for your chance to 381 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: win Fan fest, tickets here is the trivia question THAT 382 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: i came up. With Lucas Oil stadium has been the 383 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: home of The Big Ten Championship game for quite some time, 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: now a decade and a. Half who was the first 385 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: Ever Big Ten championship game in football to be named 386 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Most Valuable player In Lucas Oil stadium the very first 387 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: year that The Big Ten Football Championship game was played 388 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: In Lucas Oil. Stadium who was THE mvp of that? 389 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: Game and, yes he went on to bigger things even 390 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: beyond that. Recognition two three, nine ten to seventy is 391 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: where you can text your. Guest Eddie garrison has the. 392 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: Answer the first one will win their tickets to the 393 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: Fan fest. Chap let's get back to talking yesterday about 394 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the aggression or lack thereof For Shane. Steiken how much 395 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: of that Was Shane, steiken do you believe knowing That 396 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Daniel jones will off and trying to continue to push 397 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: the right buttons to give him the confidence or to 398 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: simply get him going in that game? Yesterday and you 399 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: know airing in terms of, that does that make sense 400 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: What i'm saying that did he keep going to the 401 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: well hoping that it was going to get on? 402 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: Track? 403 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 6: YES i think he did, That and that's one where 404 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 6: maybe the stubbornness was a bad. THING i don't think 405 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter is where you're trying the fourth quarter 406 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 6: was the lead is where you're trying to get your quarterback. 407 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 6: Going by that, time you've got a pretty good sample 408 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 6: size on what's. Working but at the same, time the 409 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 6: run game wasn't. Working and, yes because they were because 410 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 6: they weren't running the, ball and they weren't running the 411 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 6: ball well at all on first, down which gets them 412 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 6: in bad. Situations it's one of. Those it's one of 413 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 6: those in hindsight that when something doesn't, work something, else, 414 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 6: well that play didn't, work or why did you call something? Else, 415 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 6: well BECAUSE i thought that play was going to. Work 416 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 6: and AGAIN i just thought that some of the plays like. 417 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 6: That that third and three was a great play call 418 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 6: Because pittman got separation and he was open over the 419 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 6: middle And jones missed him because he felt pressure from 420 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 6: the backside and and he's thrown off his back. Foot 421 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 6: that's that's a play that he's made so many times this, 422 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 6: year and there were three or four that he just. Missed. 423 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 6: Guys he was high To pierce in the end zone 424 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 6: on the, one Although pierce was. COVERED i, guess, so, 425 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: YEAH i just this offense is not going to work 426 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 6: With Daniel jones being that. Inefficient and then he, was 427 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 6: but he was ten for twelve for it was ninety 428 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 6: four yards on the first tab and he was dotting it. 429 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 6: Up but then he started feeling, pressure real or. PERCEIVED 430 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 6: i think most time it's. Real they are putting pressure on, 431 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 6: him and he's he's just not being as, efficient whether 432 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 6: he's whether he's seeing, things whether he's not trusting us, 433 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: throw whether he's getting rid of the ball a little too. 434 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: Quick Uh, SO i think, again team teams are, saying 435 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 6: and teams are going to, say we're gonna Let jones beat. 436 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 6: Us we're not Letting Jonathan taylor beat. Us and that's pretty, 437 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: sound a pretty sound. Approach and then, oh by the, 438 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 6: way he's Got houston coming, up and their defense is, 439 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 6: Better it's the best defense in the. League so they've 440 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 6: got to get this. FIXED i just posted something On 441 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 6: twitter that that these next six games will tell us 442 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: so much about where there's, franchise not just this, Team 443 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 6: so where this franchise goes from. Here, uh you, Know, 444 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 6: JACK i could argue that it's go. 445 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Ahead well, NO i was gonna, say AND i agree with, 446 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: that because here's the. 447 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: Thing you, KNOW i mentioned this the six. 448 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Games you got four of them Against jacksonville And, houston 449 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: And Houston's houston's putting it together a little bit here, defensively, notably, 450 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: RIGHT i mean that that is an aggressive defense and 451 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: a sound. Defense and and what's you know what you 452 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: got to make note of With Houston stroud probably coming, 453 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: Back but they've won three in a row here With. 454 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: DAVIS i, mean you know WHAT i, Mean they've they've 455 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: done it Without stroud under center because of their. Defense 456 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: but and then you throw In seattle And San francisco 457 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: as the other, one so it gets real for. Them 458 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: schedule standpoint, Here, okay is it too, Early chad if 459 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: this goes, south And i'm not saying it's going, to 460 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: but if it, does do we then start to question 461 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: the price paid For Sauce, gardner who has played really 462 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: well AND i think is an elite level. Player but 463 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: giving up two first? Rounders now did they did they 464 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: buy Into Daniel jones too? 465 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: Early? 466 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 6: WELL i don't, know that's What that's a good. QUESTION 467 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 6: i saw when people, say, well you Signed jones to 468 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 6: an extension right? Now this is like when they were 469 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: going great guns after eight, games and of course you. 470 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 6: Don't you just. Don't you, Wait you wait and see 471 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: how this thing plays. Out and if they get this 472 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: turned wish they. Can they they should have beaten The, 473 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 6: rams who right now are the best team in, football 474 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 6: and they dropped thirty eight on The chargers on the, 475 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 6: road and they could have could. HAVE i tell you 476 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 6: the best the best COMMENT i saw on social, media 477 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 6: and IF i IF i could remember who posted, It 478 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 6: i'd tell you that he Said colt fans one should 479 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 6: be pissed off for the game how it, went but number, 480 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 6: two they should come away from that game believing they 481 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 6: can beat anybody in THE. Afc and that's. TRUE i, mean. 482 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: You. 483 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 6: Can't we can't beat those. Guys there's nobody so but not, 484 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: play you, know and, again make a, play make two 485 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 6: plays in the fourth quarter and you. Win make a 486 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 6: stop or make, it make a conversion and keep the. 487 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 6: Ball so at least you're you're sort of in the. 488 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 6: Mix i've never bought into the well they were the 489 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 6: third third best dogs to, win not go to but 490 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 6: to win The Super. Bowl AND i didn't buy into 491 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 6: THE jt BEING, mvp just because he's a running back 492 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 6: and it's, easy it's easier to take him out of the. 493 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 6: Mix but this team is still good enough to do. 494 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: Things but they're gonna have to bring their eight game 495 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 6: in the next six, weeks you. Know, AGAIN i always 496 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 6: Said houston was the bigger, game not The. Chiefs houston 497 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 6: was a bigger. Game and then you're going To, jacksonville 498 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: which you haven't won there, since you, know since what 499 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 6: thirteen or, Fourteen so you've really got to get things 500 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 6: back together and rediscover who you. Are, OFFENSIVELY i think 501 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 6: the defense will be. Okay WHEN i posted my story, 502 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 6: today the whole premise was don't blame the, defense blame the. 503 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: Offense But i'm telling the defense had so many chances 504 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 6: in the second half to close that, game and they, 505 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 6: didn't but they held The ford as long as they. 506 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 6: Could but they they've got to get this thing back. 507 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 6: Together and if they, don't it's hard to imagine what 508 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 6: might take place if they go from seven to, one 509 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 6: eight and two and not make the, PLAYOFFS i. Think and, again, 510 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 6: yeah they made that trade For Sauce gardner because they 511 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: were in position to really do something special and that 512 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 6: does tailed with And Daniel jones can take them. There 513 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 6: and if that's not the, CASE i DON'T i don't 514 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 6: know how you. Reload i'm not saying you're stuck With. 515 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 6: Gardner you've got the trade moving, forward and he And 516 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: Tarvarius ward and can bind. Them those guys are are 517 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: are are, young and they're locked up for three or four. 518 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: Years but if it goes south With Daniel, JONES i 519 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 6: hope it. Doesn't BUT i understand everyone's skeptics and. CONCERNS 520 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 6: i understand that so. Much it's a much bigger sample. 521 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 6: Size dan not played well at, times then there is 522 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 6: that he's played well at, times and if it doesn't 523 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 6: work with, him you're you're back on the on the 524 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: on the ferris wheel of quarterbacks without two first round draft. 525 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: Picks Mike chappels my guest here FROM cbs four AND 526 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: wxa On fox fifty nine on The Java, House peel. 527 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: And port guest. 528 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Line by the, Way Parks Place pub is Where i'm 529 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: broadcasting here. Today it is The Major League Volleyball draft 530 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: in The Indian Night draft party taking. Place they're just 531 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: a couple of picks away from making their second selection 532 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: in the. Draft will give you that information as it, 533 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Happens Chap yesterday was that actually The it's interesting because 534 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: you can look at it and say The atlanta game 535 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: is the case in point For Jonathan taylor as the 536 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: most valuable player and what he did In atlanta and 537 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: the numbers of, that if you were making THE mvp argument, 538 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: indirectly was yesterday not actually the game that proves his 539 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: value to this franchise because they went away from him 540 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: and that's where they. 541 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: Lost, Yeah but. 542 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 6: THEN i could argue, too if If Daniel jones makes 543 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 6: a couple of, bros then he wins the. Game, yes 544 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 6: it's however you want to however you want to frame. 545 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 6: IT i always put the. Court i'm Watching Matthew stafford right, 546 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 6: now and he's he's the m V p unless he 547 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 6: just goes in the, tank which he. Won't but they 548 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 6: put the they put the football In Dame Daniel jose's 549 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 6: hands and say win it for, us and either he 550 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 6: couldn't and. Didn't, uh not all on. Him it's it's 551 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 6: never just the one. Phase but he had opportunities to 552 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 6: win that. Game he just. Did he got him in 553 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 6: position to win it in the first half and then 554 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 6: he couldn't close. It and, YEAH i get your point ON. 555 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 6: Jt that's why the quarterback general is THE mvp because 556 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 6: the ball's in his. Hands it's out of the running 557 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 6: backs hands so. Much you know what if they call 558 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 6: her run in the quarterback to a. Pass so so, 559 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 6: YEAH i understand what you're. SAYING i still say it's 560 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 6: more on the quarterback and he has got to play better, 561 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 6: also by the, way just for for facts, sake since 562 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 6: for we like. Facts Ron salt was the first round 563 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 6: draft pick in eighty. Four Here Leonard coleman worked at 564 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 6: the first first round pick that. 565 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: Year oh so they were the same draft, class. 566 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 6: Correct eighty Four, yep But coleman went before. 567 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Him, OKAY i was the first And sult. 568 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: Is one not to go on the way back, Here. 569 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: Chap but he was a really good. 570 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: Player but didn't he have like a shoulder injury that 571 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: ended up kind of and then he ended up getting 572 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: traded To philadelphia with The philadelphia did he? 573 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Not AM i wrong in? That? 574 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: Yes i'm. Not there were things going. On he had the, 575 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 6: injury and, yeah and then he ended up coming back. 576 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: HERE i think that's what it. 577 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Was he actually. Here here's what it. 578 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: WAS i think they drafted, him traded him To philly 579 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: AND i can't remember what the nature that trade. Was 580 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: and then he didn't end up coming back here until 581 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: the and until, later and then he had the shoulder 582 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: injury and they kind of got him like on the. 583 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: CHEAP i think that's, correct. Right or did he start? 584 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Here? 585 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 6: NO i think he played. Here he had a. Holdout, 586 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: okay he had an early holdout as a as a. 587 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 6: Rookie i'm flashing through as we as we killed. Time 588 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 6: i'm looking through the. Media he started, here, Okay, yeah 589 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: he started here for like three or four years and 590 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 6: then they traded. 591 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Him he, Went, okay that's what it. 592 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 6: Was he got cross eyed With bob R, say which 593 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: is never never a good thing to. Do and, uh 594 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: but ended up being a pretty good, player but shoulder injury. 595 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: Bothered bob bur, said pretty much lived cross, eyed didn't. 596 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: HE i, mean isn't that you know WHAT i, mean 597 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: if if we're being, HERE i, mean there wasn't there 598 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of focused vision there, right entire book. 599 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: On that you just before. 600 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: Lunch, YEAH i mean you. 601 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: Could, actually you, know if we could write an entire 602 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: story on. 603 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: That my chap of my guests joining me Now Java 604 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: house peeling poor guest, Line i'm live At Parks Place 605 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: PUB indi. Ignite they actually just showed up on the 606 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: video board, here, uh at The Major League Volleyball. Draft 607 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: they showed a photo from the draft party that's taking 608 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: place here At Parks Place. Pub up In fisher's, Chap 609 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: Shaverius ward was pretty honest and, candid AND i think 610 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: probably to the point of surprising a lot of, people, 611 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: uh in terms of talking about what he went through 612 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: with that second concussion and how you, know there was 613 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: a time where he thought he wouldn't even maybe play 614 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the year because that concussion was so 615 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: severe in which he came back AND i want to 616 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: make very Clear i'm not making light of that in any, 617 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: way shape or form or the severity that players have 618 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: to think about when it comes to those. Things but, 619 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: yesterday late in the, game there were times Where WARD 620 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: i thought looked late to getting to the. Play that 621 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: would you attribute that more to a fatigue be a 622 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: guy that simply was coming off of r and there 623 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: is rust there or C is there concern that that 624 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: injury lingers now to the point where he is not 625 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: the same player he was. 626 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: PRIOR i don't think. 627 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 6: There's a concern over, that Although i'll tell YOU i 628 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: was concerned when he got blown up on that blindside. 629 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 6: LOCK i, thought, well he's going back on concussion and 630 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 6: we'll find out from coach. Today sometimes these guys that 631 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 6: there's something a day. After, NO i don't think. That 632 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 6: BUT i was struck by his openness on the concussion 633 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: that he had on that pregame with The arizona, game 634 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 6: and how severe it was and how long it. Lingered 635 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 6: and what also struck me is how he's still AND i, 636 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 6: understand is how he's still fighting the emotions of losing his. 637 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 6: Daughter he and his fiante losing their. DAUGHTER i Think 638 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 6: october was like a one year, anniversary and that's one 639 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 6: of the reasons that he so much needed to get 640 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 6: out Of San francisco for all the memories he, had 641 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 6: bad memories he had, There and so the concussion and 642 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 6: all that he was going through coincided with his emotional 643 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 6: issues with losing his. Daughter so it was all of, 644 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 6: that and anyone who's lost a daughter a child understands 645 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 6: that it doesn't go. Away it gets, better but it 646 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 6: never goes. Away AND i think that really had him 647 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 6: doing some soul searching on where he was as a, 648 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 6: person not necessarily a football, player but the fact that 649 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: those concussion simpsons ling he. Said he said he kept 650 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 6: he was busy for a, month SO i think that was. 651 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 6: Concerning and every TIME i see a player like that 652 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 6: get blown up again on the, FIELD i, think oh, my. 653 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Is this another. 654 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 6: One and obviously the more you, have the more suscept 655 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 6: what you are to, him and he's had, two he 656 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 6: said to this. Year so hopefully when we thought the 657 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 6: same styching today there was no day after problems With, 658 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 6: Mooney he'll get, Better they'll get better the more he 659 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 6: and Sauce gardner played, together that they. Will he's missed 660 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 6: so much time ward haads with CONCUSSIONS i. Don't it's, 661 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 6: just you, know we kind of think these elite, players 662 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 6: you just put them in and play. Them but there's 663 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 6: more to it than. That so hopefully he gets he's, 664 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 6: fine and hopefully the more he And gardner play, together 665 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 6: this this defense is what they hope what they needed to. 666 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: Be chap speaking of players that you, know. 667 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Have to look back at past, experience And i'm not 668 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: comparing the loss of a child to not playing well 669 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: in THE. 670 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: NFL i, Mean i'm. Not i'm. 671 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: Not, HOWEVER i do think that you Know Daniel, jones 672 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: we don't know, well you, know in terms of his. 673 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: Makeup if he struggles another, game is there do you 674 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: think concern within the franchise that it could psychologically revert 675 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: him back to what he was In New york and 676 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: then he starts chasing ghosts a little bit of the 677 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: ghosts Of christmas, past and then you find yourself in 678 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: a hole where a guy kind of hides away there 679 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, psychologically. 680 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 6: WELL i mean you have to always be concerned with. 681 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 6: THAT i, mean from the outside, looking you, Know i'm 682 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 6: sure the team will fight, that but, again there's a 683 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: much much larger sample size of him not playing well 684 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 6: for a lot of. Reasons The giants are a totally 685 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 6: Dysfunctional we're a. Mess but part of. 686 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: That was on. 687 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 6: Him and every time the first time he struggled Against, 688 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 6: pittsford people, say, well there you, go there's The jones 689 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 6: who played In New. York and then they sort of 690 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 6: got it back Against, atlanta but then here we go. 691 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 6: Again they've lost two of. Three not all on him at, 692 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 6: all but, YEAH i, MEAN i don't, KNOW i don't 693 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 6: know how you don't have concerns with that because they're 694 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 6: not asking him to carry this team at. All they're 695 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 6: not they're not they're not thrown the ball fifty times a. 696 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 6: Game but they need. 697 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: Him you. 698 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 6: Know the third down conversions are like are like thirty 699 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 6: three percent the last three. Games but you, know you 700 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: got to be in the mid. Forties moved the chains 701 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 6: AND i went back and. Looked the last time they 702 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 6: went four straight possessions of that of first down was 703 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 6: like Against denver In denver last. Year so that's not the. 704 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 6: Way and they don't do three and outs very much. 705 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 6: Here they just, don't so and so much of those 706 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 6: conversions are on the. Quarterback it just Is i'm going 707 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 6: to take a few minutary when we're done and look 708 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 6: at what his passing is on are down in the 709 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 6: last three, games that's when that's when they're really good. 710 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 6: Teams you, know keep things going and they move the 711 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 6: chains and and you and they had your cussing to 712 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 6: the defense for not getting off the, seals and this 713 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 6: team did that early in the. Year in the last three, 714 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 6: games they really haven't done that. 715 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: Enough my chapel is my Guest java house peel and 716 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: poor guest line. 717 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: CHAP i guess after The i'll table this. 718 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: ONE i was going to ask, you like what depcon 719 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: level we are here of this maybe starting to turn 720 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction for The, Colts BUT i don't 721 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: want it to be Overreaction, monday So i'll wait until 722 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: after The houston. GAME i think if they don't Beat 723 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: houston at, home if then we start having that, discussion right. 724 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 6: If They're if they lose To houston at, home it's 725 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 6: deaf conon two and a, half because then you go To, 726 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 6: jacksonville you go to. 727 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 3: Back now it's one point right right. 728 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 6: Now to, me it's it's it's like three and a, half, four, 729 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 6: Four jeff gotten five is, hey everything is? Tunky, dory, right? 730 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: Gotcha, okay, okay. 731 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 6: What ones when you know your kidser ask you by 732 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 6: SO i don't think we're? 733 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 3: There, okay, okay. 734 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 6: We're here, there they're here, therefore and if you lose To, 735 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 6: houston it's two and a half. 736 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: Stick in my. 737 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: Mind, okay you're so you're, halfway so you're starting to 738 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: bend over a Little bit's what we're getting, at, Right 739 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: it's that what we're getting. 740 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: At i'm looking looking. 741 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 6: For My I'm i'm giking a hole in my. 742 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Backyard that's, right all, right chap appreciate the time as, always, 743 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: Man doret you, Well, bud all, Right Mike chapel joining 744 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: us on the job of House peel and poor Guest line. 745 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 3: Joining me now from The Indianapolis. 746 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: Star AND i wanted to have them on just Because 747 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: i'll be, Honest uh a king glasspie when WHEN i you, 748 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: KNOW i know that obviously this is your first year 749 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: on the beat and Covering butler. BASKETBALL i love reading 750 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: it because you will break down after games like here's 751 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: WHAT i, Liked here's WHAT i didn't. Like and THEN 752 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: i thought to, myself this is the one guy in 753 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: any MEDIA i don't. Know so we got to have 754 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: him on the show just to get to know. Him 755 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: SO i appreciate you coming, on, man how are. 756 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 7: You i'm, Good thanks for having. 757 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: Me let's begin with this before we get into BECAUSE 758 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: i want to know about you as. Well but This 759 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: butler team that moda to me has done a really 760 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: good job so far this year because they had to 761 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: basically reinvent not who they, are but their roster as 762 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: well and just their style of. 763 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: Play and so far. 764 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: The returns have been good because from WHAT i can, 765 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: tell they can score and they can play in various, 766 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: ways whether it be inside or. Out what has jumped 767 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: out at you so far about this group That Thad mada, Has. 768 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 7: YEAH i just think he did a great job overhauling the. 769 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 7: Roster they have eleven new players and just the talent 770 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 7: level has. Improved and coach model he said he wanted 771 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 7: to bring in more athleticism and just kind of, physicality 772 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 7: and they've definitely done that with someone Like gonzagat For 773 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 7: Michael ja and. 774 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: He has six straight double. 775 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 7: Doubles he's honestly kind of just emerging as one of 776 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 7: the best defenders in the ENTIRE, ncaa and he kind 777 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 7: of sets the tone with his tenacity and, energy and 778 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 7: then someone Like Philly bizjack who was averaging seventeen points a, 779 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 7: game just they just have just a more talented team 780 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 7: and a more complete. Team that's really fun to watch right. 781 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: Now a team this, particular you, Know Butler, Basketball Thad 782 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: mada group being, me let me tell you WHAT i 783 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: has been my, concern and THEN i want you to 784 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: tell me Where i'm completely incorrect and off base. 785 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: Here, okay in The Big. East to, me when the times. 786 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: That i've Watched butler since they've come over to The Big, 787 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: east the one thing that was always have concerned me 788 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: was that they didn't seem to have the bigs or 789 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: the athleticism to go up against what's in The Big. 790 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: East THEN i looked at The Big east AND i, thought, 791 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: okay so are you going to Get midwestern kids that 792 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: want to play in that? League and then are you 793 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: going to be able to get players From i'm The 794 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: east or from the areas that have been recruiting fertile 795 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: ground for The Big east that you're going up against 796 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: your competitors with in terms of style to then come 797 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: and play in The. Midwest it seemed like there was 798 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: this imbalance of fit For butler in that. League, NOW 799 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: i want you to tell me Why i'm totally off 800 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: base And i'm totally living in the. 801 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 7: Past, YEAH i say you're a little off, base just, 802 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 7: because To butler's, credit they've done a great job recruiting. 803 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 7: Nationally LIKE i, Said Philly binjack is From, Texas Michael 804 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 7: zia is From, Washington Jamie kaiser is From. Virginia so 805 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 7: they're not really beholden to Recruiting, Indianapolis indiana or the 806 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 7: Midbrook west in. GENERAL i, mean they have a one 807 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 7: local player In Saint robinson point Guard Evan haywood is From, 808 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 7: carmel but pretty much everyone else is from outside Of 809 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 7: indianapolis and The. Midwest so When butler can recruit kind of, 810 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 7: NATIONALLY i don't think they need to necessarily worry, about you, 811 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 7: know recruiting in The, midwest and they can get bodies 812 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 7: from all over like. You Johan trejor is the backup Center, Houston, 813 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 7: france and the starting Center Drayton. Jones he's From South 814 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 7: carolina state by the way To, Houston. Texas so JUST 815 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 7: i think the recruiting That Coach mode has done is 816 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 7: kind of. Negative the fact of that they need to 817 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 7: kind of focus on The midwest and in any. 818 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: Way, yeah it seemed like it seemed like this year 819 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: was where they really turned that. Around, Right Maybe i'm off, 820 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: there but where do they STAND nil wise versus the 821 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: rest of the. 822 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 7: LEAGUE i can't speak specific dollar, amounts BUT i do 823 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 7: know that a new athletic, Director grant Line, decker he's 824 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 7: committed to or he's made it his kind of a 825 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 7: mission to Get butler to the place where they can recruit. 826 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 7: NATIONALLY i, mean they're recruiting classes they brought. In they 827 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 7: had five freshmen and it was a top twenty five 828 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 7: recruiting class. Nationally SO i, mean obviously that takes money to, 829 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 7: do and they've been able to kind of hang with 830 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 7: a lot of the Big bats and other. Schools SO 831 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 7: i think they're making inroads in THE Nil. States they're 832 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 7: able to keep playing its Like Philly. BJACK i, mean 833 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 7: he entered the recruiting portal at the end of last 834 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 7: season and he, returned So i'd imagine they met the 835 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 7: figure that he was asking. For and again a player 836 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 7: Like Michael lajai is coming from The zaga And Damie 837 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 7: kaiser is coming From. Maryland so these are big players 838 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 7: that they're getting players to, transfer you know to you, 839 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 7: know From butler From, butler you. Know SO i just 840 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 7: think the they've made improvements in THE nl space definitely. 841 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: Stylistically what about, them do you, like what what what 842 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 1: area do we look at this year For butler and you, Say, 843 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: okay this is what's going to be. 844 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: Their calling card and what area is their? Vulnerability? 845 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 7: Yeah so right now they're just kind of a rugged 846 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 7: team and they're off. Offense i'll say offense is going 847 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 7: to be their calling. Card they can score with with. 848 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 7: Anybody LIKE i, said Between Philly bijack And Michael jai 849 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 7: And Jalen. Jackson they have scores and they have talented 850 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 7: two way players and that's something that they didn't always. 851 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 7: Have they always had talented. Scorers but they have cores 852 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 7: that can play, defense the cores that want to play, 853 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 7: defense and they're also rebounding very well. Too and right, 854 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 7: now The achilles heel would be free throw. Shooting they 855 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 7: have a lot of players shooting around sixty to seventy, 856 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 7: percent and in a close, game you're gonna want players 857 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 7: that can shoot free. Throw so that's kind of The achilles. 858 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 7: Heel and maybe. Depth they have, again a lot of 859 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 7: pressments coming off the, bench a lot of players that haven't, 860 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 7: said a lot of Big east minutes coming off the. 861 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 7: Bench so maybe free throw shooting in depth to be 862 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 7: an area of. 863 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: Concern, Okay, lastly, journalistically you're never supposed to make yourself 864 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: part of the. 865 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 3: STORY i get. 866 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: THAT a, team, RIGHT A Keem glasspie's my guest from 867 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: The Indianapolis. Star but we've not gotten the chance to 868 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: talk to you, before SO i wanted to give you the. 869 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: Opportunity tell me about a. Team tell me about a 870 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: team and Covering. Butler NOW i know you do some 871 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: high school stuff as, well but tell me about A 872 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: Keem glass. 873 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 7: Peak oh, MAN a team is a guy From he's 874 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 7: from The. Midwest he grew up In, Elgin. Illinois i've 875 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 7: always been a sports. Fan, YEAH i love, football. BASKETBALL 876 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 7: i love telling. Stories that's kind of WHY i got into, 877 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 7: journalism right BECAUSE i never want to be this. Story 878 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 7: BUT i love telling stories AND i love getting all 879 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 7: these athletes and. Coaches that's kind of WHAT i do 880 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 7: and what kind of gets me out a bit in the. 881 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 3: Morning, Okay so grew up In Illinois college. 882 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 6: Where Southern Illinois University. 883 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 3: Carbondale, ah Look, Matt matt's loving. 884 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 7: That. 885 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: Man matt's in on The. Slukies all, RIGHT a keem, 886 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: LISTEN i want to have you back on. MAN i 887 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: certainly appreciate the time on short. NOTICE i, know bulldogs 888 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: coming up On. Friday up next For Wright, state coming 889 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: off a win Against virginia And South, carolina back to 890 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: back wins For butler so far this. Year keem appreciate, it. 891 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: Man we'd love to have you back on the, show all, Right, 892 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: yeah no, problem. 893 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 7: Anytime