WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Blame 0:00:16.780 --> 0:00:20.660 I mean, it's a shock, you know. For me to 0:00:20.700 --> 0:00:24.410 be able to move on from it because literally I've 0:00:24.489 --> 0:00:26.530 never been a part of a half of football like that. 0:00:27.750 --> 0:00:30.370 And to experience it in all phases, you know, a 0:00:30.390 --> 0:00:35.489 block kick, sack fumble, interception, you know, a drop punt, 0:00:35.909 --> 0:00:38.030 and then, you know, on the defensive side really just 0:00:38.070 --> 0:00:41.600 not getting off the field in different ways. Shoot, it 0:00:41.620 --> 0:00:44.100 was just like, I don't know, the moment was just, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.090 it just felt, you know, so crazy and so egregiously 0:00:47.170 --> 0:00:49.700 different than the ball that we're used to playing um 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.020 that you know again i'm going to look at the 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.580 things and see what what was technical about it um 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.520 what the execution was and look at all those things 0:00:57.580 --> 0:00:59.700 but again when something like that happens it's like okay 0:01:00.300 --> 0:01:02.700 and then you settle in and play better football and 0:01:02.740 --> 0:01:04.760 again you know they were they were trying to run 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.380 the clock down at that point um but the offense 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.410 i thought the run game was efficient throughout the day 0:01:10.069 --> 0:01:12.970 and should have given us a great opportunity um to 0:01:12.990 --> 0:01:14.649 be able to turn that into more points and we 0:01:14.670 --> 0:01:15.509 didn't come away with points. 0:01:16.990 --> 0:01:17.530 There you go. 0:01:17.550 --> 0:01:20.860 Dave Canales after the game yesterday saying he has never 0:01:20.900 --> 0:01:24.060 been involved a half a football like that, that has 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.360 people scurrying to find the worst halves of the Dave 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.339 Canales era. 0:01:28.819 --> 0:01:31.830 Dave, you don't have to go back too far at home. 0:01:31.860 --> 0:01:34.610 Week one was pretty rough. I will say it was 0:01:34.650 --> 0:01:38.010 closer for a while. They went blow to blow. with 0:01:38.050 --> 0:01:40.170 that offense for two and a half, two and two 0:01:40.190 --> 0:01:43.630 thirds quarters. That was completely, this was an absolute three 0:01:43.730 --> 0:01:47.750 phase debacle. Like there's, and by the way, bears a 0:01:47.770 --> 0:01:50.090 hell of a football team. Tampa Bay came in one 0:01:50.130 --> 0:01:53.210 in five, one in five with a quarterback with a 0:01:53.270 --> 0:01:57.160 messed up thumb on his throwing hand with a contraption 0:01:57.260 --> 0:02:01.340 created by a, by a baseball team with no intention 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.080 to throw the football at all. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.120 And you just said, we'll help you with that. How 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.480 about you throw it for 64 yards and beat our 0:02:09.580 --> 0:02:11.160 ass by 30? 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.060 It's pathetically embarrassing. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.679 It's just, it's just, my God, you got, it's like 0:02:16.740 --> 0:02:19.580 losing a fight and someone had their, their, their right 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:20.540 hand tied behind their back. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.790 Like seriously. And God, it was horrible. Everybody was involved. 0:02:25.889 --> 0:02:28.590 And it looked like entering the day, the Panthers were 0:02:28.650 --> 0:02:32.230 starting to control the NFC South. And in just a 0:02:32.270 --> 0:02:36.270 few hours, Tampa Bay now has life as they found 0:02:36.310 --> 0:02:39.270 their running formula, Matt, that has worked twice now in 0:02:39.310 --> 0:02:43.710 their wins. And Atlanta, albeit a banged up team, Atlanta 0:02:44.070 --> 0:02:45.050 was on the edge there. 0:02:45.070 --> 0:02:45.510 Now they. 0:02:46.030 --> 0:02:48.120 They go get a huge win over the Niners and 0:02:48.139 --> 0:02:51.060 the NFC South. Now it's, it's now in doubt as 0:02:51.139 --> 0:02:52.700 opposed to what we thought may be entering the day. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.200 Half game lead, half game, freaking lead now over Atlanta 0:02:56.340 --> 0:02:59.109 and now Tampa and even new Orleans who lost again 0:02:59.130 --> 0:03:01.430 yesterday at two and five, they're only a game and 0:03:01.450 --> 0:03:04.570 a half back. So you let everybody come back into 0:03:04.590 --> 0:03:06.690 the picture. I was hoping we'd have a two and 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.080 a half game lead. Instead, it's down to a half 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.360 game lead. And the question of who are you blaming, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.230 who upsets you the most yesterday as that game got ugly, 0:03:16.650 --> 0:03:19.610 you got to spread it around. The run defense giving 0:03:19.690 --> 0:03:24.400 up 258. in the sixth game of the season, when 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.160 we saw them give up 291 on the ground to 0:03:27.180 --> 0:03:29.400 the Bears in the first week of the season, it's 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:30.299 just horrifying. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:31.980 It's one thing, Bone. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.890 I've defended Avero and the horrible first year, and so 0:03:34.910 --> 0:03:37.690 has Dan Morgan, by saying he didn't have talent to 0:03:37.730 --> 0:03:39.570 work with, and then Derrick Brown got hurt. 0:03:40.010 --> 0:03:43.810 Of course it got ugly. But in year three? Of 0:03:43.870 --> 0:03:44.500 the defense? 0:03:44.910 --> 0:03:47.900 And they missed Jalen Phillips. There was no doubt about it. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.440 When there were moments where Princely did not set the 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.240 edge or Pat Jones or Travis Gibson did not set 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.440 the edge, they missed Jalen Phillips. But you can't say 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.430 258 yards rushing bone with a quarterback who they don't 0:04:01.490 --> 0:04:04.110 want to have to throw the ball with. is all 0:04:04.230 --> 0:04:06.610 on one player. But then you can go bone to 0:04:06.630 --> 0:04:11.470 the offense, the pass protection, Bryce's, you know, bringing back 0:04:11.590 --> 0:04:14.400 memories of early Bryce with three turnovers. 0:04:14.660 --> 0:04:16.060 There is so much blame. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.599 The coaching staff all over this coaching staff for having 0:04:19.660 --> 0:04:22.050 a team look like they did not show up ready 0:04:22.060 --> 0:04:22.690 to play a football. 0:04:22.700 --> 0:04:24.560 It's just, there's so much blame, man. 0:04:24.770 --> 0:04:28.929 Three home games this year, they've allowed 630 rush yards 0:04:29.029 --> 0:04:31.970 at home, 210 a game. And oh, by the way, 0:04:32.010 --> 0:04:34.729 the middle game of there with Gibbs, they allowed 46 0:04:34.730 --> 0:04:39.549 yards rushing. So think about that. Against Gibbs, you allowed 46, 0:04:39.550 --> 0:04:40.210 but the other. 0:04:40.070 --> 0:04:43.550 Two, 291, 258. At home, man. 0:04:43.790 --> 0:04:46.070 Now, on the road, yeah, it's bad no matter what, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:51.599 but your home crowd has seen just horrible performances two 0:04:51.660 --> 0:04:52.680 out of three efforts this year. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.400 Yeah, I feel for people who are spending money for it, man. Absolutely, man. 0:04:57.700 --> 0:04:59.640 And we thought they were past this. This is a 0:04:59.779 --> 0:05:05.539 smack in our faces of reality. Listen, I was out 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.040 there at the doghouse yesterday. My God, what a day 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.880 it was. What a morning it was. And the Panthers 0:05:09.900 --> 0:05:13.160 had to go and ruin the day. But fans were upbeat. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.779 The crowd, there were hardly any Bucs fans at the 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.700 doghouse yesterday. The weather was amazing. And then the Panthers 0:05:19.730 --> 0:05:22.650 just go and do that. It's just like leaving a 0:05:22.730 --> 0:05:25.190 bag of poop on our damn porch and we step 0:05:25.210 --> 0:05:25.930 in it. 0:05:26.290 --> 0:05:29.370 Like when Ted stepped in it in Billy Madison. There 0:05:29.390 --> 0:05:29.790 you go. 0:05:30.529 --> 0:05:32.610 The poop bag was on fire and Ted had his 0:05:32.670 --> 0:05:33.690 boots on, stepping on it. 0:05:33.690 --> 0:05:33.990 You're right. 0:05:34.130 --> 0:05:36.770 We're Ted. Don't stop it out with your boots, Ted. 0:05:36.930 --> 0:05:39.650 That's true. This wasn't just a regular bag. 0:05:39.710 --> 0:05:43.890 It was flaming. There's no doubt it was flaming. Flaming 0:05:44.150 --> 0:05:47.950 poo Sunday. The level of play from Rasheed Walker, how 0:05:47.990 --> 0:05:50.270 was that due to 11th in pass block win rate 0:05:50.300 --> 0:05:54.160 last season? I mean, the bull rushes against him yesterday, 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.870 by the way, they made Yaya Diaby look like Lawrence Taylor. Bone, 0:05:59.450 --> 0:06:03.070 that dude had three sacks yesterday. Yaya Diaby is just 0:06:03.130 --> 0:06:05.990 a dude. And they made him like, again, this is 0:06:06.050 --> 0:06:10.130 the 31st pass rush in pressure. And they go out 0:06:10.180 --> 0:06:13.219 there and get five sacks. And they didn't blitz on. 0:06:13.220 --> 0:06:15.820 One of their sacks. That's just mano a mano. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.260 We're ripping your tail, Robert Hunt. We talked about it 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.600 a few minutes ago. He doesn't appear to be the 0:06:20.660 --> 0:06:21.219 same player. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.200 They had a yaya. We had a yo-yo. And Robert 0:06:23.220 --> 0:06:26.200 Hunt just moved all over the place. And he wasn't 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:27.160 even the worst one. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:27.990 Mack, what? 0:06:28.350 --> 0:06:33.230 What in the blue hell did Rasheed Walker do positive yesterday? Like, honestly, 0:06:33.510 --> 0:06:35.039 that guy couldn't block air. 0:06:35.190 --> 0:06:35.540 Nothing. 0:06:35.710 --> 0:06:38.520 Five pressures and two or three sacks, depending on who 0:06:38.540 --> 0:06:39.339 you're looking at. 0:06:39.580 --> 0:06:41.240 I thought it was three of the five were on him. 0:06:41.420 --> 0:06:43.400 Every time that Bryce was under pressure, and I think 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.980 Bone said, well, there was 16 pressures yesterday for Bryce. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.280 I asked my guy, well, in the first sack, because 0:06:48.300 --> 0:06:49.520 my guy left me at halftime. 0:06:49.540 --> 0:06:52.160 That's another story. Hey, who got beat on that one? 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.160 I knew the answer. It was either Hunt or it 0:06:55.220 --> 0:06:59.080 was Rasheed Walker. Two biggest culprits by far. We lose 0:06:59.100 --> 0:07:00.419 Taylor Moten, Fibula. 0:07:01.260 --> 0:07:03.380 That could be season ending depending on just how long 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.450 it takes him to come back. 0:07:04.630 --> 0:07:07.630 And I was sitting there watching Rasheed Walker and I'm like, 0:07:07.770 --> 0:07:09.690 how about we get Freeling in there at left tackle? 0:07:09.730 --> 0:07:10.050 Yes. 0:07:10.250 --> 0:07:12.710 And I'll be damned if before they could do that. 0:07:12.730 --> 0:07:14.950 And Freeling was over there loosening up on the sidelines 0:07:14.990 --> 0:07:16.830 a bit. And I'm like, is he going in? No, 0:07:16.850 --> 0:07:19.310 he's not going in. And before they can get him 0:07:19.450 --> 0:07:22.140 in at left tackle. And by the way, who got 0:07:22.180 --> 0:07:26.540 Taylor Moten hurt? Rasheed Walker, he got shoved so far 0:07:26.580 --> 0:07:29.390 across bone that they end up going into the damn 0:07:29.410 --> 0:07:32.430 T-Mobile to right tackle's legs. And now he's got a 0:07:32.450 --> 0:07:36.560 fractured fibula. So it's just, it's a mess. Textures are 0:07:36.620 --> 0:07:37.679 asking about Icky. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.400 I don't know, man. We getting Hornets type updates on Icky. 0:07:42.450 --> 0:07:43.690 We got no idea. I got nothing. 0:07:43.710 --> 0:07:45.650 What the hell's going on there? I do know this. 0:07:45.730 --> 0:07:50.510 Ozzie Trapillo's back. Same injury, same position, same day. He's back, 0:07:50.570 --> 0:07:51.670 but Icky's not. 0:07:51.730 --> 0:07:54.310 Can we just bring up, though, what Fitty just mentioned 0:07:54.330 --> 0:07:57.800 there a second ago? A listener gave Fitty a ticket 0:07:57.830 --> 0:08:00.920 to the game. They went together, and at halftime, this 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:02.880 guy said, I'm out, and left Fitty by himself. 0:08:04.670 --> 0:08:06.630 Did he have enough of the game or Phinney's company? 0:08:07.370 --> 0:08:09.670 I need to know. Where's this guy Patrick at? Was 0:08:09.690 --> 0:08:11.570 it you or the team? I hope it wasn't me. 0:08:11.650 --> 0:08:13.350 I thought I was on my best behavior. 0:08:13.390 --> 0:08:17.540 I kept the four-letter words to a minor minimum, all 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:18.600 things considered. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.120 I mean, there was that. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.800 One point where I just stood up and just yelled, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.120 you know, like multiple, like the F word, like multiple times. 0:08:24.540 --> 0:08:26.680 Because I was just that... With this guy there or 0:08:26.740 --> 0:08:28.880 just by himself? Yeah, see, you know. Wow, this guy 0:08:28.900 --> 0:08:33.000 could add enough. It's year... It is year three. That's 0:08:33.020 --> 0:08:35.800 the difference. It's not the first year anymore of this regime. 0:08:35.980 --> 0:08:37.380 That crap has to stop. 0:08:37.620 --> 0:08:40.030 Like, dude, year one when you're trying to establish the 0:08:40.070 --> 0:08:42.650 culture and you're trying to build this thing up. We 0:08:42.690 --> 0:08:49.449 are defending NFC South champions. And I don't know when 0:08:49.510 --> 0:08:53.130 I sit down on Sundays at 1 o'clock what version 0:08:53.150 --> 0:08:54.720 of the Carolina Panthers I'm. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.880 Going to get. That has to end. Point blank, period. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.100 If we want to be a serious organization, if we 0:09:03.140 --> 0:09:05.780 want to get the respect from the national media that 0:09:05.820 --> 0:09:09.260 we so crave here in Charlotte, good football teams quit 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:09.790 doing that. 0:09:09.870 --> 0:09:11.930 You think we're going to get it after this? Hell no. 0:09:11.990 --> 0:09:14.150 We have been phoned over by the national media for 0:09:14.170 --> 0:09:15.870 a couple of weeks. We're a good football team. Where 0:09:15.890 --> 0:09:18.870 do you think that is? Yeah, thank you, McAfee. Oh, 0:09:18.910 --> 0:09:21.230 we're a great football team. How about you stick to 0:09:21.250 --> 0:09:22.950 your Andrews home game? Are we getting shows at 6 0:09:22.950 --> 0:09:24.570 o'clock in the freaking morning in Utah? 0:09:25.910 --> 0:09:30.670 McAfee had himself a Saturday. That is one sensitive macho man. God, 0:09:30.690 --> 0:09:33.050 he is sensitive. But anyway, let's get back to the 0:09:33.090 --> 0:09:35.670 task at hand. What the hell happened to the Panthers? 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.540 And I think Fitty's right. It's just like, again, it's just, 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.780 are you not in the, like, here's the inconsistency again. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.580 You won two in a row. Last week wasn't pretty, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.960 but you had won two in a row. You then 0:09:50.059 --> 0:09:53.300 lose like that to the basement team in your crap-ass division. 0:09:54.090 --> 0:09:54.849 At your house. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.960 And Bone, we were talking about... Their formula to beat 0:10:00.020 --> 0:10:02.900 Dallas was... I know it's a different quarterback, but they 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.520 had a very specific formula. 0:10:04.540 --> 0:10:05.380 You knew it was coming. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.459 In their one good game all year, or one win, 0:10:08.740 --> 0:10:13.990 they had a very specific formula, and it was run, run, run, run, run, run, run. 0:10:14.370 --> 0:10:15.510 Baker's coming back, Mac. 0:10:15.550 --> 0:10:16.000 He's got a. 0:10:16.870 --> 0:10:19.910 Basically a catcher's knuckleball glove on over there. You know 0:10:19.950 --> 0:10:22.370 that he might be limited passing. They had a way 0:10:22.410 --> 0:10:24.010 to beat you. It was going to be with the run. 0:10:24.290 --> 0:10:27.480 And they showed you their formula right away when Bucky 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.540 Irvin gets 11 touches on the first drive. And there 0:10:31.580 --> 0:10:35.000 was no, look, it's a player problem too, but there 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.310 was no adjusting anywhere. Matt, were the Bucks like, well, 0:10:39.330 --> 0:10:40.589 I guess we're just going to do this all day 0:10:40.630 --> 0:10:42.710 because they're not stopping any of this. The fact that 0:10:42.750 --> 0:10:44.630 Baker Mayfield, Matt, completed what, seven passes? 0:10:45.250 --> 0:10:46.170 Seven of 11. 0:10:46.170 --> 0:10:49.370 And they scored how many points yesterday? 43 points. That's 0:10:49.410 --> 0:10:51.530 got to be like record territory for this era to 0:10:51.550 --> 0:10:53.750 have seven passes and score 43 points. 0:10:53.850 --> 0:10:58.220 It's the second lowest, was it passing yards in a game? 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.800 I got to look it up. 0:10:59.820 --> 0:11:01.860 There is a stat for that. There are stats for 0:11:01.900 --> 0:11:04.240 that because, yes, that is an average. They basically played 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.160 1950 football. That's an aberration. It is an absolute aberration. 0:11:09.820 --> 0:11:12.209 But again, like you asked for adjustments and I tried 0:11:12.230 --> 0:11:15.209 to watch it back last night. There was eight in 0:11:15.230 --> 0:11:18.690 the box at times and we're getting run on. It's like, 0:11:19.130 --> 0:11:21.030 at some point, the personnel needs to be ripped. 0:11:21.670 --> 0:11:22.660 And listen, if. 0:11:22.660 --> 0:11:25.599 Ajero Overo keeps doing this every few games for the 0:11:25.660 --> 0:11:27.600 rest of the season, then I'm going to sit there 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.380 and say, give someone else a chance. But I also 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.370 want to point out, for some reason, the players often 0:11:32.390 --> 0:11:35.890 don't get bitched at. It's just, it's really easy to 0:11:35.950 --> 0:11:40.210 single out. Derrick Brown's not, Derrick Brown has not been... 0:11:40.700 --> 0:11:42.939 Pro bowler Derek Brown this year. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:43.780 He's had his moments. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.760 But as I said earlier, when I was messed up 0:11:45.820 --> 0:11:49.100 on the audio part, he's not exactly the highlight reel 0:11:49.140 --> 0:11:51.339 that we're used to of throwing guys around and doing 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.200 all that. He's been all right at times, but nowhere 0:11:54.300 --> 0:11:57.160 near what this defense needs out of Derek Brown. He's 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.780 a part of this, too. I can't believe I'm saying that, 0:11:59.820 --> 0:12:01.800 but Derek Brown has been a problem at times. 0:12:01.830 --> 0:12:03.689 Yeah, I thought he made some plays yesterday when I 0:12:03.710 --> 0:12:05.270 watched it back. I know he ended up with the 0:12:05.309 --> 0:12:07.490 highest PFF grade. I don't know what that's really worth. 0:12:07.809 --> 0:12:10.050 He ended up with five tackles. He batted a ball down. 0:12:10.429 --> 0:12:12.410 But there was one play where, oddly, he got shoved 0:12:12.429 --> 0:12:15.520 like 10 yards downfield. It's like, how is that possible? Now, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.700 he did run downfield on that horrible long run where 0:12:18.740 --> 0:12:22.890 Caleb Evans looked like he wanted his mama. Because the 0:12:22.929 --> 0:12:25.569 guy stiff-armed him, and it's like, bro, do you want 0:12:25.590 --> 0:12:28.410 to tackle? Because I know it looks like you can't cover. 0:12:29.030 --> 0:12:30.569 Now it looks like you don't want to tackle, which 0:12:30.630 --> 0:12:32.510 is a problem. Will Lee had another moment that got 0:12:32.530 --> 0:12:35.270 called out by Moose Johnston. Your corner's got to tackle 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:39.340 in this defense, especially when they're running Irving outside right 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.820 at your corners a bunch. But Moose Johnston called out 0:12:41.860 --> 0:12:42.220 Will Lee. 0:12:42.260 --> 0:12:42.719 It's like, bro! 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.620 It's third and one. You're inside the five. You're breaking 0:12:47.660 --> 0:12:50.199 down and just standing there. So, listen, it's just a team. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.440 I saw Devin Lloyd get shoved around all over the place. 0:12:54.860 --> 0:12:57.099 So there's a lot of blame to go around. I 0:12:57.140 --> 0:13:00.179 think our interior D lineman bone, like if we're talking 0:13:00.210 --> 0:13:02.150 about positions to trade for, I know a lot of 0:13:02.210 --> 0:13:05.850 us have been talking about corner. Interior D lineman feels 0:13:05.870 --> 0:13:08.210 like you could use another veteran body in there. I 0:13:08.230 --> 0:13:12.360 know the Colts could be shopping DeForest Buckner. I wonder 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.470 if that would be something they would do. But there's 0:13:14.500 --> 0:13:15.540 so many people to rip. 0:13:15.770 --> 0:13:18.849 Bryce Young. Bryce Young was terrible. That was a step 0:13:18.890 --> 0:13:20.330 back yesterday. It needs to be said. 0:13:20.630 --> 0:13:23.370 Now, when Bebop texts in, like the jackass he is, 0:13:23.970 --> 0:13:26.790 and is like, that's the Bryce I was waiting for. 0:13:26.809 --> 0:13:28.090 First of all, you're not a Panther fan. It needs 0:13:28.110 --> 0:13:29.500 to be said over and over again. You're just not 0:13:29.510 --> 0:13:33.400 a Panther fan. But then secondly, he drops in. Well, 0:13:33.700 --> 0:13:36.260 Bryce plays a good defense, and that's what happens. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:37.420 And it's like. 0:13:38.620 --> 0:13:41.829 if like bebop i'll use you for an example you 0:13:41.900 --> 0:13:44.490 act like a jackass on text five straight times and 0:13:44.510 --> 0:13:47.070 then the sixth day you act like a normal human 0:13:47.110 --> 0:13:51.110 being i'm going to think you're a jackass bryce young 0:13:51.490 --> 0:13:54.900 balled out for five games plays one bad one i'm 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.500 not all of a sudden going to agree with you 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:57.880 oh he's terrible. 0:13:59.470 --> 0:14:00.050 No, that's a great point. 0:14:00.090 --> 0:14:03.050 I'm going to go with the five games over the one. Now, 0:14:03.090 --> 0:14:06.429 here's the thing I will say, Bone. And the offensive 0:14:06.460 --> 0:14:10.980 line was pathetic. Just pathetic in pass pro. if this 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.620 continues we got a problem like green bay is another 0:14:14.660 --> 0:14:16.920 we said it last week and i know some of 0:14:16.940 --> 0:14:19.040 the haters are saying oh bryce gonna play good and 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.840 we said it last week like you've got two top 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.880 10 defenses tampa and green bay and then you got 0:14:23.900 --> 0:14:25.710 a denver defense has got a lot of talent on 0:14:25.770 --> 0:14:29.270 it so we are watching this stretch if he comes 0:14:29.350 --> 0:14:30.830 out and plays like that and turns it over like 0:14:30.850 --> 0:14:32.930 that against green bay then i think we have more 0:14:32.950 --> 0:14:35.250 of a conversation Yeah, very. 0:14:35.650 --> 0:14:38.490 Very interesting spot on the short week there. 0:14:38.630 --> 0:14:43.500 I'm worried about the defense, certainly, secondary-wise in this matchup 0:14:43.530 --> 0:14:46.880 coming up here. Mac, as I mentioned a couple weeks ago, Murphy, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.580 my dog, is blind in one eye. So sometimes when 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.600 we're in the dog park, I'll call him and he'll... 0:14:52.180 --> 0:14:54.080 He'll take a second to kind of locate me a 0:14:54.100 --> 0:14:56.300 little bit. That was kind of like a Caleb Evans 0:14:56.340 --> 0:14:58.600 in the end zone yesterday. He reminded me of Murphy 0:14:58.620 --> 0:15:00.340 when he can't find me when that receiver got away 0:15:00.380 --> 0:15:03.690 from him. Caleb Evans might be like my dog with 0:15:03.810 --> 0:15:04.570 a blind in one eye. 0:15:04.750 --> 0:15:06.610 You got to be, but he might be blind in two. 0:15:06.770 --> 0:15:07.750 What was going on there? 0:15:07.810 --> 0:15:09.630 I mean, the guy, the receiver's like, I'm just going 0:15:09.650 --> 0:15:10.810 to walk over here for a second. 0:15:10.830 --> 0:15:12.530 Let me just, all right, just buy enough time and 0:15:12.570 --> 0:15:14.110 he's going to get beat. It's the same thing Baker 0:15:14.130 --> 0:15:16.310 did on third and 10 earlier in the game. Buy 0:15:16.330 --> 0:15:18.700 enough time by flushing out to the right. And all 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.870 of a sudden he got spun around on that one. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:26.290 By Tess Johnson. Spun around. Please just start somebody else 0:15:26.370 --> 0:15:29.190 other than him. I'm begging you, Averro. I'm begging you. 0:15:29.510 --> 0:15:32.110 Do not make all the people that can't stand you 0:15:32.410 --> 0:15:34.890 look like prophets. Because if you send, like you said 0:15:34.930 --> 0:15:38.320 at Bone, you send that dude out there against Green 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.520 Bay's passing attack and Green Bay's wide receivers, Watson and. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.860 Golden, Like, you've got to be insane. It'll be 7-0, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.710 or depending who gets the ball. But Green Bay scores 0:15:49.770 --> 0:15:52.090 on their first drive. They throw a 50-yard touchdown right 0:15:52.110 --> 0:15:54.430 to them. Because that's kind of how they go about things. 0:15:54.610 --> 0:15:56.690 And we don't think Green Bay, Mac, as you said, 0:15:56.710 --> 0:15:58.950 might be a little bit desperate in their division for 0:15:58.970 --> 0:16:02.530 this win on a short week. What's the status of 0:16:02.550 --> 0:16:04.930 Micah Parsons also, by the way? Yeah, I don't know 0:16:04.950 --> 0:16:06.050 what's going on with that one. 0:16:06.170 --> 0:16:10.520 Are you insinuating, Bone, that our tackles could have trouble, 0:16:10.700 --> 0:16:13.860 like Rasheed Walker could have trouble blocking him? Yeah. 0:16:14.620 --> 0:16:16.700 They could wheel out Micah Parson and then he'll get 0:16:16.740 --> 0:16:20.100 by Walker. 704 number. Now we see why Rasheed Walker 0:16:20.140 --> 0:16:22.750 came so cheap. Yeah, would the rest of the league 0:16:22.770 --> 0:16:25.190 get on it? We're the only ones that didn't know? 0:16:25.250 --> 0:16:26.500 No wonder Green Bay was laughing at us. 0:16:27.110 --> 0:16:27.810 Oh, man. 0:16:29.610 --> 0:16:31.130 All right. We come back. 0:16:31.170 --> 0:16:33.130 Jim Zoki, Panther Radio Network. More bitching. 0:16:33.150 --> 0:16:36.500 The one employee that did a nice job yesterday. And 0:16:36.540 --> 0:16:39.359 a new Shroff did, too. Jim Zoki, Panther Radio Network. Next, 0:16:39.380 --> 0:16:40.060 Sports Radio. 0:16:40.060 --> 0:16:40.580 92.7 WFNZ. 0:17:04.190 --> 0:17:06.909 All right, let's keep talking Panthers, trying to figure out 0:17:06.950 --> 0:17:11.030 what the heck happened yesterday. 43-13, loss to the Bucs, 0:17:11.150 --> 0:17:13.810 Mack and Bone with you. The Texters are fired up 0:17:13.970 --> 0:17:17.080 as you freaking should be. I feel like everybody's got 0:17:17.100 --> 0:17:19.980 to get a shot with the whooping stick. 0:17:20.300 --> 0:17:24.460 We haven't even talked about the most comically awful part 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.139 of a very comically awful day. When the Panthers finally scored, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.600 you thought, oh, wow, they're doing something here. Good morning, 0:17:30.619 --> 0:17:31.139 Jim Zoki. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.380 This is great. They scored. Maybe they can chip away here. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.960 Like the Dolphins game last year, they got down early 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.900 and they came back and they won the game. Maybe 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.379 this is this year's. Then the extra point gets blocked 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.250 and all of a sudden we're down 19 to 6. 0:17:44.250 --> 0:17:45.710 Unbelievable. That's what I was saying earlier. 0:17:45.830 --> 0:17:49.250 Every time Jim Zoki's with us, every time they did 0:17:49.310 --> 0:17:51.450 do something good, they undid it. 0:17:51.630 --> 0:17:54.210 The defense on the second drive got to stop. I 0:17:54.250 --> 0:17:55.850 know it's hard. It's easy to forget now. 0:17:56.390 --> 0:17:59.330 That's when David Moore immediately dropped the football. And then 0:17:59.430 --> 0:18:03.550 after that, the defense then held him to a field goal. 0:18:03.750 --> 0:18:07.050 Pretty good job. And then Bryce turns it over for if, 0:18:07.490 --> 0:18:11.480 you know, gets a hunt beat. Sacked, forced fumble, touchdown. 0:18:11.180 --> 0:18:13.840 The other way. It's like every time they did something good, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:15.770 they followed it up with something horrendous. 0:18:15.810 --> 0:18:18.449 To Bone's particular point, we scored a touchdown and then 0:18:18.470 --> 0:18:20.740 gave up a field goal. Because we lost a point, 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.450 and then we gave up two more. So we gave 0:18:22.490 --> 0:18:23.870 up three while scoring a touchdown. 0:18:23.890 --> 0:18:25.869 So a touchdown was worth four freaking points. 0:18:25.970 --> 0:18:27.869 And then we had to kick the ball off to them. 0:18:27.930 --> 0:18:29.609 You said Carboni was trying to calculate. 0:18:29.650 --> 0:18:31.390 He walked by. He was trying to do the net 0:18:31.450 --> 0:18:32.770 of like, so what did we just lose? 0:18:32.810 --> 0:18:32.929 Two. 0:18:32.990 --> 0:18:35.030 I go, actually three, because we should make an extra point. 0:18:35.050 --> 0:18:35.889 That's a hell of a point. 0:18:36.109 --> 0:18:38.869 So the touchdown, that beautiful pass by Bryce, which is 0:18:38.890 --> 0:18:41.689 about the only one he threw all day, that was 0:18:41.710 --> 0:18:42.450 worth four points. 0:18:42.790 --> 0:18:42.930 Yep. 0:18:43.580 --> 0:18:46.379 It was every, you know, it was, like you said, 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.179 it was like comically bad. It was just like, the 0:18:49.230 --> 0:18:52.090 game was ridiculous. At some point it was just, you know, 0:18:52.109 --> 0:18:53.850 people were kind of like trying to stick around for 0:18:53.910 --> 0:18:55.990 halftime for the Luke Kuechly part of the thing because 0:18:56.010 --> 0:18:58.570 you're down 27 at halftime. And then we come out 0:18:58.590 --> 0:19:00.730 to start the second half and it just kept on 0:19:00.790 --> 0:19:03.570 going from there because you keep thinking eventually it's going 0:19:03.590 --> 0:19:06.889 to turn. Maybe we'll get within, you know, where it 0:19:06.970 --> 0:19:08.670 seems like we might have a chance here. But it 0:19:08.690 --> 0:19:10.670 was just one of those horrific games to the point 0:19:10.690 --> 0:19:12.510 where I'm sure you played it sound by Dave Canale. 0:19:12.530 --> 0:19:13.850 He says, I've never been a part of a first 0:19:13.890 --> 0:19:17.510 half like that. We had the Chicago game this year 0:19:17.830 --> 0:19:19.500 where he gave up 59, but if you think about it, 0:19:19.510 --> 0:19:21.190 we were tied in the third quarter of that game. 0:19:21.230 --> 0:19:23.280 This game was just like nothing from the beginning. 0:19:23.540 --> 0:19:26.580 Fitty said, Dave, how bad were you losing at halftime 0:19:26.619 --> 0:19:28.980 against the Saints in your first year? 0:19:31.060 --> 0:19:34.080 Does that performance make you worry about Bryce at all, 0:19:34.100 --> 0:19:36.899 or do you think that this version of Bryce, he's 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.409 still going to have some bad gains, but This is 0:19:39.450 --> 0:19:41.560 not going to be something that continues on week after 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:41.960 week now. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.200 I think, you know, you have to throw it into, 0:19:45.460 --> 0:19:47.650 you know, you're going to have ups and downs in 0:19:47.650 --> 0:19:50.130 17 games. And this was a down. I think so 0:19:50.190 --> 0:19:52.750 much of it was generated by we've been saying like, 0:19:52.910 --> 0:19:56.370 go ahead, Blitz. He loves, he thrives in chaos. Well, gosh, 0:19:56.410 --> 0:19:58.619 I mean, there's chaos and then there's an avalanche because 0:19:58.670 --> 0:20:02.170 I just felt like the protection was so bad yesterday. 0:20:02.740 --> 0:20:05.659 It was a really difficult situation to operate under. There's 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.939 only so much you can do. And so when you 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.840 get sacked five times and there could have been more 0:20:10.970 --> 0:20:13.159 I mean, just under constant duress, it's hard to operate 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.000 the offense out there. So I think it begins with that. 0:20:16.020 --> 0:20:17.899 I think Bryce has shown over the first part of 0:20:17.940 --> 0:20:20.360 the season he can perform very well. But you have 0:20:20.380 --> 0:20:22.439 to have some amount of operation space and time out 0:20:22.460 --> 0:20:25.290 there to run the plays. So I do. His part 0:20:25.330 --> 0:20:27.770 of it, too. No question, his part of it, too. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.030 I think it begins up front with the lack of 0:20:30.070 --> 0:20:33.149 protection and now losing Taylor Moten for who knows for 0:20:33.190 --> 0:20:35.150 how long is difficult. 0:20:35.230 --> 0:20:35.530 Killer. 0:20:35.890 --> 0:20:39.690 It was the fastest time to pressure of the season, 0:20:39.690 --> 0:20:43.180 2.4 seconds. It was getting there quick. Here's the most 0:20:43.260 --> 0:20:44.000 alarming stat. 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.220 Bowles' M.O. is the blitz, right? 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:46.440 Yeah. 0:20:46.780 --> 0:20:49.400 Every one of the five sacks was without a blitz. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:50.640 That's what hurts. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.980 It was just a four-man rush. Regular pass protection. Yeah. 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.110 I think they had Rasheed Walker for giving up three 0:20:55.130 --> 0:20:58.150 of the sacks, six quarterback pressures and It wasn't just him, 0:20:58.190 --> 0:21:00.040 but that was the most of it, at least half 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.480 of it. And then, again, you can only do so 0:21:03.540 --> 0:21:05.859 much operating of the offense, and everyone's always going to 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.919 look at the quarterback first. I mean, I guess, you know, 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.119 you always have to say, all right, we have to 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.800 max protect now. Now it's taking you out of what 0:21:11.820 --> 0:21:13.520 you game-planned all week for as far as how you're 0:21:13.540 --> 0:21:15.490 going to operate the offense. You look at it, we 0:21:15.510 --> 0:21:17.510 didn't run enough to make a difference in the game, 0:21:17.550 --> 0:21:18.950 but we ran it five yards a carry. 0:21:18.970 --> 0:21:21.170 They ran it efficiently. It's just when you get down 0:21:21.170 --> 0:21:23.710 78 to nothing. What are we going to do? 0:21:23.730 --> 0:21:25.750 Run the clock out? What are we going to do 0:21:25.790 --> 0:21:27.530 at that point? Ty's got a touchdown at the end. 0:21:27.570 --> 0:21:29.990 So to me, it's like, yeah, it's a bad game 0:21:30.030 --> 0:21:31.760 all the way around. And I know they always say, 0:21:31.790 --> 0:21:33.470 you'll flush it, move on. And you have to because 0:21:33.490 --> 0:21:35.389 they already had their Monday meeting on Sunday to get 0:21:35.430 --> 0:21:38.060 ready for a short work week. Thursday, go into Green Bay. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:39.670 So you do have to turn quickly in this case 0:21:39.730 --> 0:21:44.010 because you legitimately legitimately time-wise have to turn quickly to 0:21:44.030 --> 0:21:46.010 get into the next game and maybe that's the best 0:21:46.050 --> 0:21:49.369 thing and this is uh it's just an interesting coincidence 0:21:49.390 --> 0:21:51.510 but last year our worst game of the year was 0:21:51.650 --> 0:21:54.550 at home against buffalo we lost 40 to 9 and 0:21:54.590 --> 0:21:57.609 went to lambo beat the packers as heavy underdogs there 0:21:57.630 --> 0:22:00.870 so it again can't predict exactly what's going to happen 0:22:00.890 --> 0:22:02.669 but it shows how quickly things can turn in the 0:22:02.730 --> 0:22:03.290 nfl the. 0:22:03.190 --> 0:22:06.330 Trans bone with this team would indicate a bounce back 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:08.200 They would. 0:22:08.780 --> 0:22:09.200 Right, Bone? 0:22:11.820 --> 0:22:14.340 I've never heard him not respond. I thought he was 0:22:14.380 --> 0:22:17.100 still saying it. I thought he was still talking. I'm 0:22:17.140 --> 0:22:18.220 not used to Matt stopping. 0:22:18.300 --> 0:22:20.970 Bone, help me out here. Who's with me? Help me out. 0:22:21.190 --> 0:22:21.650 Anybody? 0:22:22.109 --> 0:22:25.250 Now bounce back and win? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, 0:22:25.270 --> 0:22:25.650 you're right. 0:22:26.150 --> 0:22:29.550 This good, bad, good, bad, good, bad situation here would 0:22:29.590 --> 0:22:32.030 lead to, although the short week you never quite know, 0:22:32.090 --> 0:22:33.550 maybe that plays a factor either way. 0:22:33.950 --> 0:22:35.909 I don't know. What do you think's been wrong with 0:22:35.970 --> 0:22:36.830 Robert Hunt this. 0:22:36.690 --> 0:22:40.260 Year and why he has not been anywhere near as 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.260 effective as he was when he was healthy a couple. 0:22:42.100 --> 0:22:43.060 Of years ago? 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.480 That's an interesting question. I think there's a great answer 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.040 for it because this is a guy that was obviously well-paid, 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.760 brought in, who played very well when he arrived and 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.440 before arriving here. And it's not been up to, I'm sure, 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.340 his standard as far as overall and some of the 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.119 penalties that have happened beyond what's happened with the blocking 0:22:59.180 --> 0:23:02.209 out there, too. So It's difficult. I think the offensive line, 0:23:03.390 --> 0:23:05.520 it's been a difficulty this year that, again, we talk 0:23:05.540 --> 0:23:08.120 about Bryce having to perform under chaos because he has to. 0:23:08.500 --> 0:23:10.300 You'd like for him not to have to perform under chaos. 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.200 What would it look like if he had, most times, 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.350 pass protection and so forth? And there's been a lot 0:23:15.380 --> 0:23:18.130 of talk about people going, Baker Mayfield, he's 7-1 against 0:23:18.170 --> 0:23:21.230 the Panthers. It's like, he did his part. I think 0:23:21.250 --> 0:23:23.880 that position is more than stats. It is a presence. 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.500 There is a culture. There's a mindset. I'm sure they 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.460 had a sense of, hey, we've got to protect Baker today. 0:23:28.740 --> 0:23:31.449 Let's run the ball really well. That was inspired by 0:23:31.470 --> 0:23:33.669 the fact that. But he threw for 64 yards. He 0:23:33.690 --> 0:23:36.030 threw the ball 11 times. They ran 49 times to 0:23:36.030 --> 0:23:37.390 11 pass attempts in the game. 0:23:37.390 --> 0:23:39.109 30 runs in the first half. 0:23:39.130 --> 0:23:42.700 So Baker's not 7-1. The Bucs are 7-1 because it's 0:23:42.740 --> 0:23:45.290 a collective effort because. I mean, if there was ever 0:23:45.330 --> 0:23:46.930 a game where it was, you could say, all three 0:23:46.970 --> 0:23:49.600 phases that you got beat in, this was it. 0:23:49.660 --> 0:23:51.340 Special teams was brutal, too. 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.020 Special teams, muffed punt, and then also the extra point, 0:23:54.060 --> 0:23:55.980 as we mentioned, getting blocked for two points the other way. 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.350 I mean, does that happen like once in the year 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.150 of the NFL football, of all the games of the league? 0:24:01.210 --> 0:24:03.659 Like about once a year, someone might return one? for 0:24:03.700 --> 0:24:04.540 two points, if that. 0:24:04.740 --> 0:24:05.000 Yeah. 0:24:05.220 --> 0:24:06.280 Once every several years. 0:24:06.380 --> 0:24:08.300 And the luck they had on that one, the way 0:24:08.340 --> 0:24:10.500 it got blocked and drops right in the guy's arms, 0:24:10.900 --> 0:24:14.580 kind of like the fumble of Bryce bounces perfectly for 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.340 Kalijah Cansey. Like, again, and I'm not on here saying 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.650 we lost because of bad luck, but it didn't help. 0:24:19.810 --> 0:24:22.609 It wasn't our day. By the way, you have triggered 0:24:22.790 --> 0:24:25.430 walk them down on the text line. You, along with 0:24:25.550 --> 0:24:29.230 every Panther yesterday after the game, He says, I swear 0:24:29.250 --> 0:24:31.469 to God, if I hear flush it one more time. 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.520 It's like me after Thanksgiving. 0:24:35.580 --> 0:24:38.300 Bone said what they're trying to flush is definitely going 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:39.180 to clog the toilet. 0:24:39.369 --> 0:24:42.250 By the way, it is like a league-wide freeze now. 0:24:42.270 --> 0:24:43.679 It's just because, oh, I just got to flush it. 0:24:43.690 --> 0:24:44.169 Well, there you go. 0:24:44.230 --> 0:24:44.570 It's over. 0:24:44.609 --> 0:24:45.030 It's gone. 0:24:45.070 --> 0:24:45.370 It's down. 0:24:45.590 --> 0:24:49.130 It's that simple. Now, can the fans bone flush all 0:24:49.150 --> 0:24:51.129 the money? I bet they feel like they flushed all 0:24:51.150 --> 0:24:53.670 the money they spent. See, that's the thing. The tone 0:24:53.690 --> 0:24:55.859 coming out of that locker room after the game was, oh, 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:56.780 we moved on already. 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:57.700 We just had our meeting. 0:24:57.740 --> 0:25:00.399 And it's like, go tell the fans who two out 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:04.700 of three games have seen this defense completely get annihilated. Like, 0:25:04.740 --> 0:25:07.000 that's the thing is, I get it to flush a thing. 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.300 It's one thing to lose at home in some dramatic 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:12.040 fashion or something. They've just completely wasted money from the onset. 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:12.530 Exactly. 0:25:12.550 --> 0:25:14.570 Can somebody stand up, and I thought Derrick Brown would 0:25:14.609 --> 0:25:16.590 do it, and say what we did today is unacceptable. 0:25:16.790 --> 0:25:17.910 That's embarrassing. 0:25:18.170 --> 0:25:20.170 And that tone was not, I don't know if Dave, like, 0:25:20.530 --> 0:25:22.890 just set the tone in the speech and they all 0:25:22.970 --> 0:25:26.460 followed it, but it was like, does nobody here feel 0:25:26.740 --> 0:25:28.200 absolutely humiliated? 0:25:28.900 --> 0:25:31.619 No, I think they do. And they just, you know, again, 0:25:31.820 --> 0:25:33.960 it's probably some media training that goes into that, like 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:34.340 you said. 0:25:34.540 --> 0:25:36.179 Give me real, man. Not to be so quotable. 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.540 But it was an interesting weekend because, you know, the 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.399 Hornets bounced back, obviously, quickly after their 47-point loss. But 0:25:41.420 --> 0:25:44.379 what a weekend of booing we had here. And I 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.720 said it last week on another show. I said, I 0:25:46.770 --> 0:25:51.470 am never upset about fans booing at home because of 0:25:51.510 --> 0:25:54.689 their financial and time investment. I mean, especially if you're 0:25:54.710 --> 0:25:57.919 a season ticket holder. You show up early. You tailgate 0:25:58.060 --> 0:26:01.760 the expense, the anticipation. You're spending, if you're a season 0:26:01.780 --> 0:26:04.760 ticket holder, thousands and thousands of dollars. And if you're 0:26:04.780 --> 0:26:07.550 not happy, I mean, it's a natural human reaction. I mean, 0:26:07.609 --> 0:26:09.690 you want to be supportive to your team, but I 0:26:09.690 --> 0:26:10.970 think you are. But I think there are some times 0:26:10.990 --> 0:26:13.070 you're just kind of like, you know, it just is 0:26:13.109 --> 0:26:15.490 what it is. It's a bad performance. And so I 0:26:15.530 --> 0:26:17.390 don't ever get upset with fans that boo. I think 0:26:17.410 --> 0:26:20.290 people take that the wrong way because I think they're just, 0:26:20.310 --> 0:26:22.139 you know, hoping you'll turn it around and turn it 0:26:22.180 --> 0:26:24.600 into a cheer because they want you to win as 0:26:24.660 --> 0:26:26.859 much as the players work and try to get it 0:26:26.900 --> 0:26:29.460 to get done. But it's human nature to be upset. 0:26:29.700 --> 0:26:32.200 I mean, you can't expect, oh, it's okay, guys. You'll 0:26:32.420 --> 0:26:32.939 get them next time. 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.859 Is it wrong, Bone, that I am proud of us 0:26:35.980 --> 0:26:38.679 as a sports city that we booed? Because when I 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.220 got here— We did a lot of that this weekend. 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.220 When I got here— I was awful proud then. They gave 0:26:43.260 --> 0:26:45.020 me a lot of examples. But in 2004, when I 0:26:45.020 --> 0:26:50.879 got here— and you know it, Zogh. And you know it too, Bone. 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.399 It was a different feel of a sports town. It 0:26:53.460 --> 0:26:56.119 was a little bit more of a, oh, you'll get 0:26:56.140 --> 0:26:57.179 them next time, guys. 0:26:57.609 --> 0:26:58.270 And I don't know. 0:26:58.330 --> 0:27:00.570 Some people might disagree with me. Some people might think 0:27:00.609 --> 0:27:03.370 we've grown as a sports city for the worse. But 0:27:03.510 --> 0:27:05.930 I think they're pros. They're getting paid big money. They 0:27:05.970 --> 0:27:06.550 can take it. 0:27:07.190 --> 0:27:10.170 I think this is the way passionate sports towns act. 0:27:10.250 --> 0:27:12.649 I think it's fair and it's normal. The Charlotte Hornets 0:27:12.670 --> 0:27:16.460 are famously known. for playing their first game ever in 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.940 the late 80s, losing to the Cavaliers by 40 and 0:27:18.980 --> 0:27:21.480 getting a standing ovation. That's how we began as a 0:27:21.500 --> 0:27:24.580 professional sports team. I think we're pretty kind overall, like 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.639 you said, compared to Philadelphia and some other places. 0:27:26.940 --> 0:27:29.100 I have a stat here to back up what Mac 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:33.940 was saying about the trend of the performing better after 0:27:34.010 --> 0:27:38.230 losses like this. In the Dave Canales two-year and now 0:27:38.330 --> 0:27:43.690 change tenure as Panther head coach, He's 12-10 after losses. 0:27:43.750 --> 0:27:47.369 The game immediately following a loss, he's 12-10 for a 0:27:47.350 --> 0:27:51.050 545 win percentage. They did it six times last year 0:27:51.470 --> 0:27:52.590 and twice this year already. 0:27:52.609 --> 0:27:53.070 So you're right. 0:27:53.090 --> 0:27:55.230 There is a trend there where he's got a winning 0:27:55.310 --> 0:27:58.410 record after losses. And Zoe gave up. The Buffalo brought 0:27:58.470 --> 0:28:00.700 us the Packer one after the Buffalo blowout. 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.120 How about the Bears? Hang 59 on us. We go 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:03.900 and win 34-3. 0:28:04.060 --> 0:28:04.320 Yeah. 0:28:04.900 --> 0:28:09.340 Albeit against the law firm of Russian Strand. Yeah. What 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.619 do you think about this? That's it, Matt. We're winning 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:12.100 34-3 Thursday. 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.119 What do you think about the run defense, Oak? I 0:28:14.140 --> 0:28:18.160 know Jalen Phillips was out, but you said it. They 0:28:18.220 --> 0:28:21.450 looked like they wanted to protect Baker and get through 0:28:21.470 --> 0:28:24.409 a game without him really having to do much, and 0:28:24.470 --> 0:28:29.490 we acquiesced and allowed that. 258 yards, just what, five 0:28:29.530 --> 0:28:30.439 games after giving up 291? 0:28:30.430 --> 0:28:33.330 How do you— How do you explain that? 0:28:33.369 --> 0:28:35.890 It's awful. No, it's awful because you had to think 0:28:35.990 --> 0:28:38.860 with Baker's injury that that was going to be their mindset. 0:28:39.020 --> 0:28:40.740 So it's kind of that you know what they're going 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.800 to do and you still can't stop it. And there 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.900 is a cumulative because we think of just defensive lines sometimes. 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.020 At some point, I think you can get by in 0:28:49.100 --> 0:28:52.980 times without your two starting corners, but add Jalen Phillips 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.320 into that. I mean, next man up is great, but 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.980 those are all three well-paid players. So it's like they're 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.420 well-paid for a reason. At some point, you want to 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.440 have your best players out there And it's just sometimes 0:29:03.460 --> 0:29:05.600 it gets you against certain matchups. I think some teams 0:29:05.660 --> 0:29:08.380 are tough matchups. And I think Bucky Irving doesn't get 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.060 enough credit for being one of the best running backs 0:29:10.100 --> 0:29:11.880 in the league. Granted, it was him and Gainwell, so 0:29:11.900 --> 0:29:13.900 it was a cumulative thing that it wasn't just one 0:29:13.940 --> 0:29:17.460 player yesterday in this case here. But, yeah, it's this constant, like, 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.510 you know, lack of tackling. So sometimes they get by 0:29:19.550 --> 0:29:21.870 that first layer, like you need your corner to come 0:29:21.930 --> 0:29:24.050 up or your safety to make a tackle, and they're 0:29:24.070 --> 0:29:26.220 missing two. and all of a sudden it's a touchdown 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.360 or a 30-yard run on something that looks pretty simple 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:28.700 out there. 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.300 Do they even want to tackle that at Caleb Evans? 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.550 Just when I thought a Caleb Evans covering was the 0:29:32.590 --> 0:29:36.290 worst part of his game, he got stiff-armed so easily, 0:29:36.340 --> 0:29:38.160 so it was like a toddler it was like they 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.040 were stiff-arming a toddler yeah. 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.620 And the one touchdown pass it's like we were as 0:29:42.660 --> 0:29:45.480 close to the receiver as he was it was just 0:29:45.550 --> 0:29:48.090 so much space there so again they're gonna have to 0:29:48.230 --> 0:29:50.730 adjust things and maybe make some you know shuffling of 0:29:50.750 --> 0:29:54.730 the lineup with some situation but secondary help along you 0:29:54.750 --> 0:29:56.910 know we talk about the linebackers and the defensive front 0:29:57.260 --> 0:29:59.120 It's a collective effort out there in terms of being 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.790 able to tackle that. You rely on the secondary, that 0:30:01.830 --> 0:30:02.690 last line of defense. 0:30:03.130 --> 0:30:03.310 Yeah. 0:30:03.610 --> 0:30:07.050 God dang. This texter would like Zoki to start at 0:30:07.150 --> 0:30:08.090 corner this week. 0:30:10.170 --> 0:30:12.490 Same result would happen, I would tell you that. It 0:30:12.510 --> 0:30:13.490 would not be a better result. 0:30:13.510 --> 0:30:14.950 Did you lose any speed off the torn Achilles, or 0:30:14.990 --> 0:30:15.830 are you still okay? 0:30:16.390 --> 0:30:19.170 Yeah, it's the same lack of speed that was there 0:30:19.260 --> 0:30:19.880 in high school. 0:30:20.150 --> 0:30:23.180 Imagine the cushion. People don't like cushions. Imagine the cushion 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.820 Zoki would give on those Packers receivers. 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.300 Zoki, what sports did you play? Keep it in front 0:30:26.340 --> 0:30:28.700 of you. What sports did you play in high school? 0:30:28.740 --> 0:30:31.240 I played football, but I mostly played baseball and basketball 0:30:31.270 --> 0:30:32.120 all the way through high school. 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.130 That's nice. Look at that, baby. You would do Jim Thorpe. Oh, 0:30:35.150 --> 0:30:37.630 they're going to say the same thing. Jim Thorpe Zoki. 0:30:37.650 --> 0:30:37.950 Yeah. 0:30:39.530 --> 0:30:42.610 Well, I should mention, not well. I played several sports, 0:30:42.650 --> 0:30:45.170 but none of them particularly well, unlike Jim Thorpe. 0:30:45.430 --> 0:30:48.720 We've got a great question here, 704 number. Does Zoki 0:30:48.780 --> 0:30:51.420 hate these segments after losses? Yes. I feel like you 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.860 guys interrogate him like he was responsible, not to mention 0:30:54.900 --> 0:30:57.940 the texters that for some reason seem to blame him. 0:30:58.940 --> 0:31:01.700 Zoki, we want the truth! Come on, Zoki, tell us! 0:31:01.780 --> 0:31:04.260 I'm only the conduit to the information that is there 0:31:04.460 --> 0:31:05.220 with the team itself. 0:31:06.230 --> 0:31:08.070 But yes, I think the answer is I think he 0:31:08.110 --> 0:31:08.630 doesn't like these. 0:31:08.650 --> 0:31:09.230 They're not as fun. 0:31:09.250 --> 0:31:09.930 But he's a professional. 0:31:09.950 --> 0:31:10.690 They're not as fun. 0:31:10.750 --> 0:31:11.090 Definitely. 0:31:11.130 --> 0:31:13.550 I was hoping to do a Packers preview edition of 0:31:13.570 --> 0:31:15.150 this one, but we'll save that for another time. 0:31:15.170 --> 0:31:17.450 That's what you should have done. Imagine how mad that. 0:31:17.350 --> 0:31:18.070 Texter would have been. 0:31:18.110 --> 0:31:19.510 I'm here for the Green Bay preview. What are you 0:31:19.530 --> 0:31:20.170 guys talking about? 0:31:20.310 --> 0:31:22.270 If you said, I'm flushing it. I refuse to talk 0:31:22.290 --> 0:31:23.410 about it. I'm here for Green Bay. 0:31:23.430 --> 0:31:25.670 I said before, I'd like to move my segment, not 0:31:25.710 --> 0:31:27.580 this week at Winter Work, but to Fridays, because Friday 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.920 would be another— recap day it's a happy friday while 0:31:30.940 --> 0:31:32.520 we're here we need a flush sound effect for the 0:31:32.540 --> 0:31:36.420 rest of the show there is no doubt about it 0:31:36.460 --> 0:31:39.470 this dude says when you hire an nfl coach that 0:31:39.550 --> 0:31:41.710 should be a a youth. 0:31:41.530 --> 0:31:44.850 Camp counselor this is what you get boy they turned 0:31:44.910 --> 0:31:47.840 quickly i know that's the thing too i will say 0:31:47.900 --> 0:31:51.080 so We were, as a fan base, pretty high going 0:31:51.100 --> 0:31:51.520 into that game. 0:31:51.540 --> 0:31:53.280 We're still in first place. We're still in first place. 0:31:53.300 --> 0:31:54.940 I know it doesn't feel good, but we're still in 0:31:54.980 --> 0:31:55.460 first place. 0:31:55.540 --> 0:31:58.010 Like, we can vent, but do we need to, like... 0:31:58.090 --> 0:32:01.090 Somebody said, if we lose this week, is Canales getting fired? 0:32:01.130 --> 0:32:02.850 And it's like, I don't feel like we need to 0:32:02.950 --> 0:32:05.390 turn that dramatically that fast. 0:32:05.430 --> 0:32:06.850 I can promise that will not be the case. Okay, 0:32:06.870 --> 0:32:08.670 thank you for that. That one we can predict will 0:32:08.690 --> 0:32:09.000 not be the case. 0:32:09.020 --> 0:32:10.880 Thank you for that. All right, Zoke, you're the man, baby. Hey, guys, 0:32:10.900 --> 0:32:12.520 flush it, right? You're the man. That's right. 0:32:12.540 --> 0:32:12.900 Flush it. 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.120 I wish I was ever in the lobby bathroom earlier 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.800 today would have done the same courtesy. 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.960 That's my bad, Joe. I don't know. Is it the 0:32:23.010 --> 0:32:24.630 weekend crew? What's going on here? 0:32:24.690 --> 0:32:27.370 There's like paper towels rolling out of the bathroom into 0:32:27.390 --> 0:32:27.830 the lobby. 0:32:29.150 --> 0:32:31.010 What was going on here this weekend? I know. What 0:32:31.190 --> 0:32:32.190 do these people eat? 0:32:32.330 --> 0:32:35.190 What kind of food were y'all ordering while working weekends? 0:32:35.250 --> 0:32:38.910 Tampa Tammy's trash in the bathroom. Oh, God. Tampa Tammy. 0:32:39.030 --> 0:32:41.950 I guess doesn't work till Wednesday, but is that going 0:32:41.970 --> 0:32:43.580 to be a miserable experience, Bone? 0:32:43.690 --> 0:32:46.680 We're already talking about making sure we have security. 0:32:46.260 --> 0:32:47.200 At the window. 0:32:47.260 --> 0:32:50.160 You should hide the security. This woman is in our heads. 0:32:50.180 --> 0:32:51.520 We are terrified for Wednesday morning. 0:32:51.540 --> 0:32:53.520 Can we dress up louder as a security guard and say, 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.060 please don't approach this window? 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:55.860 Okay, okay. 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.800 At minimum, we're at orange security for this one. 0:32:57.860 --> 0:32:58.520 Come on. 0:32:58.620 --> 0:32:59.050 Oh, my God. 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.090 All right, Jim Soke, you may step down. You may 0:33:01.190 --> 0:33:01.770 step down here. 0:33:01.790 --> 0:33:02.270 See you next week. 0:33:02.430 --> 0:33:02.950 All right, Soke. 0:33:03.830 --> 0:33:05.450 When we come back here on the, I was going 0:33:05.470 --> 0:33:07.550 to say the Panther Radio Network. That's what Jim's on. 0:33:07.930 --> 0:33:10.030 We're the Mac and Bone Radio Network. It was a 0:33:10.070 --> 0:33:13.229 rough day for Bryce. Is it time to change the 0:33:13.290 --> 0:33:17.520 narrative again? We'll ask the audience, courtesy of QC Mechanical, 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.100 your local HVAC experts on the Mac and Bone Show, 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:34.410 Sports Radio 92.7. Thank you. 0:33:48.220 --> 0:33:49.840 I'm not going to sit here and blame that loss 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.219 on Bryce Young. By no means was that on him. Now, 0:33:53.260 --> 0:33:56.350 he turned the ball over, fumbled, returned for a touchdown, 0:33:56.370 --> 0:33:59.310 but Kalijah Canty was a great play. And he didn't 0:33:59.330 --> 0:34:01.850 play well. He threw interceptions, too. But the bottom line 0:34:01.890 --> 0:34:05.530 is that was a team loss. They got run on 0:34:05.990 --> 0:34:09.510 all day long to the tune of over 250 yards. 0:34:09.550 --> 0:34:10.990 I mean, you can't play. 0:34:11.830 --> 0:34:14.380 and win playing that style of football. They remember in 0:34:14.420 --> 0:34:17.920 week one, the Bears ran for over 250 yards against them. 0:34:17.940 --> 0:34:19.839 So that's two games teams have. 0:34:19.780 --> 0:34:21.759 Run for over 250 yards against you. 0:34:21.780 --> 0:34:22.990 So that's a problem for them. 0:34:23.340 --> 0:34:26.630 Offensively, they never got into a rhythm, and they got 0:34:26.670 --> 0:34:30.149 pushed around. So you combine that with Bryce Young not 0:34:30.210 --> 0:34:33.430 playing great football, and that's why the Carolina Panthers got 0:34:33.450 --> 0:34:34.050 blown out today. 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:35.580 There you go. 0:34:35.620 --> 0:34:39.160 Pete Prisco, a man who has not been shy about 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.520 his criticism of Bryce over the years. And I thought 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:43.960 he was going to go back in. I thought he 0:34:43.980 --> 0:34:47.050 was going to go full bop there, Boney. Pete Prisco, 0:34:47.070 --> 0:34:50.530 big on opinions, short in stature. It should be a T-shirt. 0:34:51.310 --> 0:34:54.950 But that is Pete on CBS yesterday saying Bryce Young 0:34:54.989 --> 0:34:56.150 did not lose this football game. 0:34:56.170 --> 0:34:57.189 Now, granted, he didn't help. 0:34:57.690 --> 0:35:01.360 They got short fields after every one of Bryce's turnovers. 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.620 No pun intended. I know I said short. but they 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.100 got short fields, Bo, after all three of the turnovers. 0:35:07.340 --> 0:35:08.719 One of them, the field was so short, they ended 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.980 up in the end zone with a touchdown. But again, 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.560 and I will say this, the one thing about Bryce's 0:35:14.620 --> 0:35:18.259 performance that is alarming, both of his interceptions, at least 0:35:18.300 --> 0:35:21.520 according to PFF, were clean pockets. So as much as 0:35:21.580 --> 0:35:24.660 the pressure led to the fumble for a touchdown and 0:35:25.100 --> 0:35:27.520 the pressure led, you know, obviously the five sacks killed 0:35:27.540 --> 0:35:30.520 this offense, but Bryce Young had time. 0:35:30.860 --> 0:35:31.540 It feels like it. 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.549 Was a game like early in Bryce's career, Bone, where 0:35:34.570 --> 0:35:37.090 the pressure he's getting not only affects him on the 0:35:37.130 --> 0:35:39.630 downs where he's pressured, but affects him on the downs 0:35:39.650 --> 0:35:40.670 where he's not pressured. 0:35:41.230 --> 0:35:42.609 You know what I mean? Like it's in his head. 0:35:42.930 --> 0:35:43.790 It's sped him up. 0:35:44.010 --> 0:35:48.239 He's avoided the really bad turnovers all year. He did 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.720 not do that yesterday. So, you know, it's still there. 0:35:52.580 --> 0:35:56.400 He's not a finished product still. And we saw that yesterday. 0:35:56.460 --> 0:35:59.670 Per Sean Syedmak, Yeah, he didn't escape it like usual, 0:35:59.710 --> 0:36:00.009 did he? 0:36:00.070 --> 0:36:00.130 No. 0:36:00.530 --> 0:36:03.330 It's like, now part of that is, Bone, Sumer Sports 0:36:03.350 --> 0:36:06.450 also said it was the fastest time to pressure. 0:36:16.780 --> 0:36:17.400 Him all season. 0:36:17.739 --> 0:36:19.920 So it's like the pressure got on him so quick. 0:36:20.340 --> 0:36:22.819 And because they only blitz, they only pressure with four 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.580 on all the sacks. They didn't blitz on any of 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.200 the sacks, believe it or not. It's almost like bone, 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.989 the extra guy in coverage, maybe there was, you know 0:36:31.010 --> 0:36:32.850 what I mean? They had seven in coverage as opposed 0:36:32.870 --> 0:36:35.730 to six, if they send five and maybe that just 0:36:35.770 --> 0:36:38.009 made it harder for him to find guys quick, but 0:36:38.070 --> 0:36:40.810 he didn't hit the escape hatch as quick as he 0:36:40.850 --> 0:36:44.130 needed to. Usually bone is He he's been so in control. 0:36:44.590 --> 0:36:46.930 He was the fourth most pressure quarterback in the league 0:36:46.989 --> 0:36:50.040 coming in, coming into today's game. And what he had 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.180 done so well is just having that extra sense of like, 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:54.380 here comes the rush. 0:36:54.420 --> 0:36:55.180 I'm going to get over there. 0:36:55.500 --> 0:36:58.319 And it didn't feel like he was quick enough to 0:36:58.380 --> 0:37:00.750 respond to the pressure, but it was on him as 0:37:00.830 --> 0:37:02.590 quick as it's been. 0:37:02.630 --> 0:37:06.870 What's his name? Your guy, Scooby-Doo. What's his name yesterday? Yeah, yeah, Diaby. Yeah, 0:37:06.890 --> 0:37:08.410 him too, yeah. 0:37:08.830 --> 0:37:11.050 And we would have gotten away with it if it 0:37:11.090 --> 0:37:12.050 wasn't for Rasheed Walker. 0:37:12.430 --> 0:37:14.910 You know what I mean? That meddling left tackle. You're 0:37:14.969 --> 0:37:15.609 so right, though. 0:37:15.630 --> 0:37:18.280 Do you know how hard it is, Mac, for the 0:37:18.410 --> 0:37:21.540 left tackle to end up in a play that gets 0:37:21.580 --> 0:37:22.540 the right tackle hurt? 0:37:22.700 --> 0:37:24.219 How badly did you have to get shoved? He was 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.560 getting shoved around constantly, Rasheed Walker, on the bull rush. 0:37:28.540 --> 0:37:31.280 But anyway, back to Bryce. So are we supposed to 0:37:31.460 --> 0:37:36.200 change the narrative about Bryce Boney? This dude says, I 0:37:36.260 --> 0:37:38.560 know you're going to criticize me and call me a hater, 0:37:39.020 --> 0:37:41.840 but now I'm afraid to face the Green Bay and 0:37:41.900 --> 0:37:45.719 Denver defense. It's not just Bryce. But can this combination 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.950 of Bryce and the offensive line handle good defenses? 0:37:49.969 --> 0:37:52.290 What do you think about that? I'm not ready to 0:37:52.330 --> 0:37:53.210 do all that yet. 0:37:53.250 --> 0:37:55.520 He's still been really good this year, but he's not– 0:37:55.870 --> 0:37:59.300 opposed to an off game. But that was a team-wide 0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.920 systematic failure yesterday where everybody was involved, from offense, defense, coaching. 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.640 Everybody had a horrible game yesterday. It was going to 0:38:07.660 --> 0:38:10.380 be hard for Bryce Mack to have a great day 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.030 when everything else around him was horrible yesterday, Bryce included. 0:38:14.489 --> 0:38:17.509 Bryce is not above the criticism from yesterday, but go 0:38:17.530 --> 0:38:20.250 ahead and show me something yesterday that was actually good. 0:38:20.610 --> 0:38:22.989 Nothing worked yesterday. Nothing at all was good yesterday. No, 0:38:22.989 --> 0:38:24.690 it was terrible. It was collective terrible. 0:38:24.730 --> 0:38:27.740 It's not like the defense played great and Bryce threw 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:29.540 horrible picks and let the team down. 0:38:30.140 --> 0:38:31.340 Everybody was bad yesterday. 0:38:31.340 --> 0:38:34.980 704 says, unfortunately, this game, Bryce could not hide the 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:36.980 offensive line mistakes. Yeah, he's been doing a pretty good 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.879 job of that. I guess this is proof you can't 0:38:39.940 --> 0:38:43.860 do that every night. 704 number says, isn't this proof 0:38:43.900 --> 0:38:47.049 that we got too high on Bryce? The MVP chance, 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:53.009 the top five quarterback discussions. Yeah, I mean, we can 0:38:53.050 --> 0:38:55.410 only talk about the games that are played. And through 0:38:55.450 --> 0:38:58.750 last week's game, I feel like all that stuff was relevant. 0:38:59.610 --> 0:39:02.969 But you got to do it week in and week out. 0:39:03.190 --> 0:39:06.680 And we'll see. If he rattles off-bone another five-game stretch 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.140 like he just had, we're going to forget this one. 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:10.880 I have a question. 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.660 We deal with this a lot. I know you just 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:17.640 challenged him there, but why— Why are there so many 0:39:17.739 --> 0:39:20.759 people that take glee in the fact that Bryce had 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.280 a bad game yesterday? They're texting Charlotte Sports Radio. I'm 0:39:24.300 --> 0:39:26.509 not even just talking about the the normal people but 0:39:26.989 --> 0:39:30.379 there's people that are panda fans mocking the quarterback having 0:39:30.420 --> 0:39:32.879 a bad game yesterday i don't i never understand that 0:39:33.140 --> 0:39:33.640 i don't i. 0:39:33.620 --> 0:39:35.720 Don't are they panther fans i guess. 0:39:35.620 --> 0:39:37.819 I guess some of them are but i guess not 0:39:38.460 --> 0:39:40.759 it really is annoying because he's the nicest dude ever 0:39:40.780 --> 0:39:42.940 like if you can't get behind and root for bryce 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.509 like what does that say about you Because there was 0:39:47.550 --> 0:39:50.640 a thing. When you're taking pride in the guy struggling 0:39:50.660 --> 0:39:53.339 for yesterday. Not to mention the Panther fan angle of, 0:39:53.380 --> 0:39:55.660 you seem a little too happy your quarterback, who we 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.080 were chanting MVP to. 0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.279 Two weeks ago, played like that. And some people didn't 0:40:00.310 --> 0:40:02.790 like Cam winning either. It's really against your own guys. 0:40:02.810 --> 0:40:05.270 This dude said, I compare it to Cam. Cam would 0:40:05.450 --> 0:40:08.150 often be able to overcome if there was bad pass protection. 0:40:08.630 --> 0:40:10.870 Sometimes he wouldn't, and it would get ugly, and that's 0:40:10.910 --> 0:40:11.950 what happened yesterday. 0:40:11.969 --> 0:40:15.110 Okay, yeah, Cam's one of the greatest dual-threat quarterbacks the 0:40:15.150 --> 0:40:17.839 history of the NFL has ever seen. Mac, how many 0:40:17.910 --> 0:40:22.879 quarterbacks would have thrived with yesterday? His left tackle was 0:40:23.020 --> 0:40:26.140 so bad, he got his right tackle injured because his 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.660 ass got blocked that far out of the play. 0:40:29.219 --> 0:40:32.060 Put that into perspective, people. 0:40:34.140 --> 0:40:35.480 I know something, we're going to come here and we're 0:40:35.500 --> 0:40:37.020 going to defend and make excuses for him. 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.029 Dude, Bryce was awful. I thought the interception when he 0:40:40.050 --> 0:40:40.509 threw the ball. 0:40:40.430 --> 0:40:43.469 To Coker was bad. You know, the sack fumble. At 0:40:43.510 --> 0:40:44.850 some point, you've got to be able to hit and 0:40:45.070 --> 0:40:48.630 fumble the football. That was rookie Bryce for 2.0. Like, 0:40:48.670 --> 0:40:52.710 he was bad yesterday. But why was he bad? If 0:40:52.750 --> 0:40:55.310 he would have had a clean pocket and made all 0:40:55.350 --> 0:40:59.030 those same mistakes, then guess what? We are ripping QB9 0:40:59.290 --> 0:41:01.210 over and over and over again. 0:41:01.230 --> 0:41:02.770 What do you think about the fact PFF has his 0:41:02.790 --> 0:41:04.299 two interceptions with a clean pocket, though? 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:06.540 Okay. 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:11.410 Again, those go, those plays go against Bryce, but I 0:41:11.430 --> 0:41:15.730 don't know. Mac does my homes, Alan burrow. Do those 0:41:15.790 --> 0:41:18.370 guys thrive with that kind of offensive line play yesterday? 0:41:18.390 --> 0:41:20.279 I do want to point out. 0:41:20.300 --> 0:41:22.279 And if they do, they're at a upper, they're a 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.360 higher echelon of quarterback than what Bryce is. 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:24.940 To your point. 0:41:25.140 --> 0:41:27.580 Pat my homes yesterday in the 20 to three loss 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.860 to Seattle, uh, through 19 of 33 165 five yards 0:41:31.900 --> 0:41:35.270 at attempt no touchdowns one pick in a 58 rating. 0:41:34.870 --> 0:41:36.629 Never ran a play in the red zone the first 0:41:36.650 --> 0:41:37.870 time in his career. 0:41:37.530 --> 0:41:39.170 And he might be the greatest ever and you know 0:41:39.190 --> 0:41:41.630 what happened to him yesterday the run game that had 0:41:41.650 --> 0:41:44.750 been carrying that football team and his best friend was 0:41:44.790 --> 0:41:47.600 not there yesterday seattle shut down walker so Let's not 0:41:47.700 --> 0:41:50.660 act like great quarterbacks don't have rough nights. The thing 0:41:50.739 --> 0:41:53.899 for me is let's not make it a trend. Like 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:57.420 I saw Joe Persons article bone, the athletic.com by the way. 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.250 And he said it looked like 23, 2023, 2024 Bryce. 0:42:01.630 --> 0:42:04.609 And I don't disagree with that. Um, I would say 0:42:04.730 --> 0:42:08.350 early 2024, cause remember bone, the last, um, uh, 10 0:42:08.350 --> 0:42:09.140 games of 2024. 0:42:09.140 --> 0:42:12.420 I just want to point that out there. But anyway, um, 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:14.920 let's just not make it a trend. 0:42:15.380 --> 0:42:19.160 Because in 2023 and early 2024, games like that would 0:42:19.180 --> 0:42:21.810 be a trend. Let's not let it be a trend, 0:42:22.190 --> 0:42:25.310 and then there's no harm done. To Phitty's point, though, yeah, 0:42:25.330 --> 0:42:27.850 you've got to be terrified about the pass protection. On 0:42:27.870 --> 0:42:30.670 the road, fired up Lambeau, a bunch of old Milwaukee's 0:42:30.710 --> 0:42:33.390 and Milwaukee's best and all that damn stuff being drank 0:42:33.430 --> 0:42:34.110 before the game. 0:42:34.140 --> 0:42:37.839 Like, you've got to worry about his pass protection, no 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.140 doubt about it. We still a good football team? I 0:42:41.180 --> 0:42:44.060 don't know if I'm ready to say that. I do 0:42:44.100 --> 0:42:45.500 know this. I just want to say good football team. 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.140 The texters that are saying the season is over, I 0:42:50.100 --> 0:42:52.520 do believe I would disagree with you. But today, I 0:42:52.660 --> 0:42:54.580 just want to vent today. I don't want to have 0:42:54.620 --> 0:42:55.800 many of those conversations. 0:42:55.820 --> 0:42:58.340 We're still the best team in the NFC South. If anything, 0:42:58.390 --> 0:43:02.950 a good football team. I still believe. Oh, my God. 0:43:04.950 --> 0:43:09.080 Say if it. They're an above average football team. That 0:43:09.100 --> 0:43:10.660 doesn't sound as good as good football team. 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.130 When we come back, it's college football pumped or pissed, 0:43:14.450 --> 0:43:18.459 looking for happy South Carolina fans, coping Clemson and North 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:22.350 Carolina fans, and we wonder what are state fans feeling 0:43:22.390 --> 0:43:24.610 today about their coach being fired? 0:43:24.630 --> 0:43:25.810 Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.