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Speaker 1: It is time for our weekly check in with one

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Speaker 1: of the best.

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Speaker 2: She is from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle and it is

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Speaker 2: Nicki Kelly who is joining us.

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Speaker 1: Niki, good morning, morning guys.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this article featuring the Secretary of State of.

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Speaker 1: Indiana, Diego Morales.

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Speaker 2: Confusion over paperwork handling has Indiana candidates scrambling. Now, this

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Speaker 2: is across party lines, and this is about candidates who

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Speaker 2: are filling their nominating paperwork ahead of the May primary,

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Speaker 2: and there are some concerns tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, concerns were raised by Abdul that basically,

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Speaker 3: when you sign up to bron you have to attest

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Speaker 3: that you meet all the rules, and the person who's

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Speaker 3: taking that paperwork has to meet certain definitions in the

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Speaker 3: state law. And there was concern that, like, if you

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Speaker 3: file it the election visions, all of those employees can

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Speaker 3: do that, but many of these people were filing at

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Speaker 3: the Secretary of State's home office in the state House,

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Speaker 3: and there was concern that he hadn't properly deputized them

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Speaker 3: and filed that paperwork so that someone could challenge a

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Speaker 3: filing taken in by those people. And so basically Republicans

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Speaker 3: and Democrats have been getting advice to come in and refile.

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Speaker 3: We spent a few hours, my reporter Tom Davies, spent

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Speaker 3: a few hours at the Election Division yesterday and people

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Speaker 3: were streaming in to refile, some of them having to

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Speaker 3: drive hours to do that. So, yeah, fascinating little rinkle.

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Speaker 1: So what does this imply about the internal process.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. Secretary of State Deasa Moralis says

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Speaker 3: his office did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Of course, everything's fine.

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Speaker 3: However, I'll point out some timy issue. You know, those

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Speaker 3: authorizations for those special deputies weren't filed until after that story,

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Speaker 3: the afternoon after that story came out, and they said,

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Speaker 3: well then we when we asked about it, they told us, well,

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Speaker 3: there's no requirement that they be filed. It's the election division.

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Speaker 3: But you can't have it both ways, right, Like, if

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Speaker 3: you don't need to file them, then why did you

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Speaker 3: suddenly run and file them.

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Speaker 4: And you know they.

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Speaker 3: Said before that they hadn't had any of those filed

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Speaker 3: since the previous Sector of State, Holly Sullivan. So you know,

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Speaker 3: it remains to be seen, I guess, and it's not

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Speaker 3: as clear cut as like if you would just automatically

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Speaker 3: be kicked off the ballot. But you know, if we

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Speaker 3: would start out your campaign in a bit of a

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Speaker 3: of a mess, if someone could contest it based on that.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Nikki, is this has this happened before? I don't

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Speaker 5: recall ever hearing something like this. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you have, and or do you think this is maybe

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Speaker 5: something that has been happening but it was just discovered

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Speaker 5: this election cycle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so I've never heard of it. That

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Speaker 3: could be the thing. Although again under Holly Sullivan, she

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Speaker 3: filed these proper you know, attestations or special deputy documents,

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Speaker 3: so at least one former sector and statement, right, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty weedy, you know, really into the weeds.

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Speaker 3: But you know, in politics, anyone will go after anyone.

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Speaker 3: So it would have been an opportunity for an opponent

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Speaker 3: to file with the election board and try to kick

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Speaker 3: you off. And for those not refiling, I guess that's

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Speaker 3: still an opportunity. I don't think the election board would

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Speaker 3: actually do that, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, you never know how many candidates actually had to

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Speaker 2: refile or plan to do so. And do you know,

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Speaker 2: are there certain offices or regions that have been affected

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Speaker 2: more than others.

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Speaker 3: No, it's really up in the air. It can be hundreds.

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Speaker 3: It just depends where they filed. If they filed at

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Speaker 3: the Election Division office, no questions. If they filed at

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Speaker 3: the Secretary of State's office, those were the questions. So

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Speaker 3: it really just depends where they went to file it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that's funny because I seen a lot

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Speaker 5: of posts on social media from various candidates standing in

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Speaker 5: front of the Secretary of State's office holding up their paperwork.

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Speaker 5: I saw several of those in the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 5: so it looks like those are in question. Now that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: You well, incumbent lawmakers showing back up to refile Republicans,

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Speaker 3: So they're definitely getting the advice by attorneys on both

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Speaker 3: sides to as an abundance of caution, go refile your paper.

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Speaker 2: Does this expose the state to any legal challenges from

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Speaker 1: Can there be lawsuits based from this?

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Speaker 3: I doubt it. I'm not sure what the claim of

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Speaker 3: damage would be. Like I said, you can file it.

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Speaker 3: You can test someone's eligibility to be on the ballot

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Speaker 3: getting three of the four election Commission votes. And I

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Speaker 3: I very much doubt that they'd be kicking people off

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Speaker 2: So obviously the Secretary of State Dioga Morales, he's pushing

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Speaker 2: back on this. It seems like he's using defensive language,

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Speaker 2: you know, calling a misleading reports when in fact they're

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Speaker 2: really not misleading.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. And we wanted to sit down

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Speaker 2: It sounds very much like I pay for India. No

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Speaker 2: problem here yet all of these candidates are refiling. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's move on to the other article that you have

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Speaker 2: in the Indiana Capitol Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: It's Nicki Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Who is joining us, and this one is focusing on

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Speaker 2: the Indiana's Family and Social Services Administration, and they planned

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Speaker 2: a rebid about sixty eight billion.

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Speaker 1: Dollars and they're going to do it all at once.

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Speaker 2: The Mother of all procurements.

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Speaker 3: That's what they called it in a presentation. I gotta

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Speaker 3: love the humor of Secretary matrob But yeah, it's basically

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Speaker 3: for all Medicaid managed care services. So this covers older Hoosiers,

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Speaker 3: it covers all the kids. In fact, that's the largest

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Speaker 3: program is kids who are poor in Indiana needing healthcare.

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Speaker 3: That's the largest amount of enrollment on these programs, Agent age,

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Speaker 3: blind and disabled, and hip which is more the working class,

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Speaker 3: you know, adults. So that every single one of those contracts,

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Speaker 3: some of them may be it for renewals, some of

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Speaker 3: them not because you know, they've been put out in

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Speaker 3: various stages over the years, and so they're just deciding

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Speaker 3: to redo it all all at once. They're going to

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Speaker 3: put out the request for proposal in August of the

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Speaker 3: announcements on Friday, but didn't really explain why. And we

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Speaker 3: asked for, you know, an explanation of why, and they

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Speaker 3: declined to give any more specific.

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Speaker 2: So you don't know what triggered this decision to rebid

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Speaker 2: all these contracts in bulk, and they haven't given you

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Speaker 2: any more details, no internal analysis, no documentation.

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Speaker 3: Correct, I mean looks speculatively, I can guess that none

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Speaker 3: of these contracts were put out under the broad administration, right,

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Speaker 3: so they have not had any way to put the

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Speaker 3: with different care models. So this could be a way

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Speaker 3: of just them wanting to have more control over these

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Speaker 3: existing contracts that are costing Medicaid and therefore state government

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Speaker 3: so much money. That could be the point. Representive Clear

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Speaker 3: who we talked to in the article said, you know,

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Speaker 3: and that's you know, necessarily bad thing that he has

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Speaker 3: a concern with doing this all at once. Anytime you

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Speaker 3: change providers or change the rules of a program, there's

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Speaker 3: disruption for people. So he's very concerned that they're doing

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Speaker 3: this sort of all at once, and it's it's a

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Speaker 3: I think you said, a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 2: Any any indication is this part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: he wants to leave the party?

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Speaker 1: Does this have anything to do with it?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, No, okay, Do you have any idea what the

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Speaker 2: cross projections are going to be, you know, from this

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Speaker 2: rebidding all at once versus doing it incrementally.

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Speaker 3: No idea, Like I said, there, we're just beginning this

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Speaker 3: process and we're not really going to talk anymore about

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Speaker 3: it yet. We'll start to see those proposals, I guess,

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Speaker 3: you know, late summer and see what they might change

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Speaker 3: about the contract. It really depends the wording of how

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Speaker 3: they you know, the requests that they put out, but

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Speaker 3: you know it can affect one in five users. One

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Speaker 3: point four million Hoosiers are on medicaid in some manner.

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Speaker 2: Any idea if this is going to align with the

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Speaker 2: federal guideline guidelines.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean has to align, like we can't go

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Speaker 3: against federal worlds. But you know in terms of who

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Speaker 3: offers it, what insurance providers, and you know, that's all

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Speaker 3: up to the state and the effective date they're targeting

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Speaker 3: for like all of the new ones to go into

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Speaker 3: is January one, twenty twenty nine. So that's that's quite

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Speaker 3: a bit of way. I have some time to work

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what are you working on this week or

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Speaker 2: what are you looking forward to for next week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We're seeing a lot of bills move in the Senate,

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Speaker 3: lots of hearings, no votes really yet. They seem as

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Speaker 3: like most of the committees are holding off. They're hearing

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Speaker 3: in with big amendments and change it and vote it out.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to see that. Seeing the hearing scheduled

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Speaker 3: for the Casino bill next week. We've got the Electric

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Speaker 3: Utility Affordability Bill and committee this morning, so just really

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Speaker 3: lots of committee work in the next week.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to ask you about the electric

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Speaker 2: utility bill, So WIBC just put out this morning, Who's

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Speaker 2: Your's Face Surging utility costs, and we've been.

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Speaker 1: Saying that bill.

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Speaker 2: Is it really going to move the needle at all

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Speaker 2: for the ratepayers?

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Speaker 3: No, most of it is kind of how you handle

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Speaker 3: the high prices, not necessarily reducing them. There is a

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Speaker 3: section that would provide a different way of doing performance

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Speaker 3: little in the future, but we're talking a couple of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Hoosiers aren't going to see any relief immediately

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Speaker 5: Hey, Nikki, I got one last question for you, because

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Speaker 5: because we were in session in December and then we

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Speaker 5: came back in January, remind me again how much longer

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Speaker 5: did the lawmakers suppose expect to be in session before

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Speaker 5: they wrap things up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Usually the fat story deadline is to be done

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Speaker 3: by March fourteenth. Because of that December couple weeks they've spent,

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Speaker 3: they are targeting to be out the end of February,

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Speaker 3: which is I think February twenty seventh, is that Friday.

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Speaker 3: So that's their goal and as far as I know,

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Speaker 3: they're on schedule for that. That's why there have not

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Speaker 3: been a lot of breathing room this session is it's

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Speaker 3: very compressed into an even shorter, you know, time frame

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Speaker 1: Just puts a little bit more pressure on you, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, everyone, I always feel for the you know, the lawyers,

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Speaker 3: the staff members. You know, they're still trying to basically

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Speaker 3: do the same amount of work in two weeks plus time.

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Speaker 2: She's one of the best. From the Indiana Capitol Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: It is Niki Kelly. Thank you for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Have a good one.

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Speaker 2: It is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Now, we have to be on the lookout for Chinese vapes.

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Speaker 2: This message coming from the Senate GOP.

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Speaker 1: They're warning against these things.

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Speaker 2: So there's a group of Senate Republicans they sent a

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Speaker 2: letter to the Treasury Secretary of Scott Passent and US

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Speaker 4: But this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even know that there were a type of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently Trump's DOJ has seized about ninety million dollars

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Speaker 2: Indiana Senator Todd Young put a message out. He said,

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Speaker 5: You know what, And this could all just be part

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Speaker 2: There was an article in the Washington Street Journal and

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Speaker 5: Whatever practical Can you imagine you're an executive at Cracker Barrel,

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Speaker 5: You know, Logo redesigned disaster that blew up in our face,

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Speaker 5: Look, this is as somebody who traveled for a living

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Speaker 2: But if you work at a restaurant, do you want

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Speaker 4: Sure, you can eat whatever you want, but you come

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Speaker 5: A bean counter or accountant at Cracker Barrel Corporate and

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Speaker 5: People that are on the road to maybe every once

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Speaker 2: Right instead, don't compete against it exactly, it's given working

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Speaker 2: They do have alcohol reimbursement limits. The company they had

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Speaker 1: And don't have too many cocktails while you're out.

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Speaker 5: And the big thing about this is these were just

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Speaker 2: So Kennedy's message is to break down stigma, acknowledge addiction realities,

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Speaker 6: bought it, would you buy it? If you go to

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Speaker 6: a restaurant and look at the menu and the prices

446
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Speaker 6: are there. Healthcare is the only place where you can't

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Speaker 6: see your prices. If you're pregnant in this country, you

448
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Speaker 6: can go nine months just trying to figure out what

449
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Speaker 6: how much is going to cause you to have that baby,

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Speaker 6: and you will not be able to do it, and

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Speaker 6: many many hospital systems, and so now you're gonna be

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Speaker 6: able to do it.

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Speaker 4: We already have.

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Speaker 6: I looked at the mock up of the web page

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Speaker 6: yesterday and it was extraordinary. It showed I asked the question,

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Speaker 6: how much does it cost of a baby, and was

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Speaker 6: in a mile of Manhattan there with thirty hospitals and

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Speaker 6: they all have different prices. The lowest price was thirteen hundred,

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Speaker 6: highest price was twenty two thousand.

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Speaker 2: So this is a staff towards transparency, But are you

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Speaker 2: really gonna do that research.

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Speaker 1: If you're having an emergency, you're gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: closest place, not the least expensive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you've got a gunshot, wound, whatever, you know,

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Speaker 5: closest emergency room is where you're going to go. I mean,

466
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Speaker 5: this is a nice step, but it's clear that this

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Speaker 5: really isn't going to move the needle a whole lot

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Speaker 5: and solving the healthcare cost problem that we've got going

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Speaker 5: on in this country. And the problem is the insurance companies.

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Speaker 5: Because we hear about this. We hear about how certain

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Speaker 5: hospital systems are struggling, especially rural hospital systems, a lot

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Speaker 5: of them are closing. We hear about the consumers they're

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Speaker 5: struggling to afford healthcare. Never hear about the insurance companies.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that you ever. I've never heard a

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Speaker 5: story about a health insurance company that's going out of

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Speaker 5: business or declaring bankruptcy. They're the ones making all the

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Speaker 5: money in the current health structure in our country. And

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Speaker 5: until that is addressed, I think this is all just

479
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Speaker 5: putting lipstick on a pig at this point. And what's

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Speaker 5: interesting about this is you can look at the difference

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Speaker 5: between the way our normal health industry has progressed the

482
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Speaker 5: last ten or twenty years and the plastic surgery industry

483
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Speaker 5: has progressed because plastic surgery, the vast majority of time,

484
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Speaker 5: is not covered by health insurance.

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Speaker 4: It is a cash option only.

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Speaker 5: And what we've seen the last twenty years in plastic

487
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Speaker 5: surgery is prices have come down, Prices in some areas

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Speaker 5: have come down dramatically, and the quality of care has

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Speaker 5: come up. Because it's a true free and open market

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Speaker 5: to provide that. It's not a free and open market

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Speaker 5: in healthcare. And this is why, you know, people always

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Speaker 5: make the joke, Hey, we got you know, eleven aircraft carriers,

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Speaker 5: but no free healthcare. We've got the world's biggest military,

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Speaker 5: but no free healthcare, you know, and they and they

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Speaker 5: blame it on capitalism. Capitalism is not happening in healthcare

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Speaker 5: right now. What's happening in healthcare has nothing to do

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Speaker 5: with capitalism, and that's the reason why prices have gone

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Speaker 5: out of control, and it's been such a drag and

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Speaker 5: a burden on both the consumer paying for health insurance

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Speaker 5: and then paying the actual bills. But it's also been

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Speaker 5: a burden on a lot of these hospital systems, especially

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Speaker 5: in these rural areas.

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Speaker 1: The prices also depend on the customer.

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Speaker 2: They change depending on who you are and what your

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Speaker 2: insurance offers, and that does include your prescription prices for example.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that you have to consider.

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Speaker 2: He says that the hospitals are going to have to

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Speaker 2: publish their prices. Are they going to say zero dollars

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Speaker 2: for illegals.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's a whole other issue here too that we

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Speaker 5: can talk about is that you know, you know, the

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Speaker 5: tax dollars being used to pay for illegals healthcare, and

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Speaker 5: and that is that is that that's a huge problem

514
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Speaker 5: of it too. And look, I'm not you know, bashing

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Speaker 5: what RFK Junior is doing on this. I think if

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Speaker 5: we have the opportunity to take these steps, that's great.

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Speaker 5: If we have the opportunity to make sure that you

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Speaker 5: aren't tax dollars being paid for illegals health care, that's great.

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Speaker 5: We should be doing those things too, but none of

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Speaker 5: this is really going to fix the core of the

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Speaker 5: problem until they addressed the insurance companies and them being

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Speaker 5: the intermediary between the consumer and the hospital.

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Speaker 2: A new voice in the conservative movement has been Nicki Minaj.

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Speaker 2: She was recently on a Kittie Miller podcast and she

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Speaker 2: was asked why she decided to stand up for Trump,

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Speaker 2: and here's what she had to say.

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Speaker 7: Definitely, religous freedom is something that's very important to me.

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Speaker 7: But if I'm being honest, President Trump, yes, because when

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Speaker 7: I saw how he was being treated over and over

530
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Speaker 7: and over, I just couldn't handle it, Like because I

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Speaker 7: felt that that same you know, a lot of that

532
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Speaker 7: bullying and the sman campaigns and all of the lying.

533
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Speaker 7: I felt that that had been done to me for

534
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Speaker 7: so many years, and I was watching it in real

535
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Speaker 7: time hoppen to someone else, and I didn't think he

536
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Speaker 7: deserved it, And it made me think I can't do

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Speaker 7: this anymore.

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Speaker 2: She has something to say, so she's going to speak out.

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Speaker 2: She was getting railed against on it at the Grammys.

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Speaker 2: They were picking on her left and right. She put

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Speaker 2: a post out just last week, well over twenty million views,

542
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Speaker 2: as she has now decided to take on the music industry.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what fascinates me about this budding friendship between Nicki

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Speaker 5: Minaj and the Trump administration is that for decades we

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Speaker 5: heard the Democrats and the Liberals tell us that they

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Speaker 5: were the party of tolerance and acceptance and they were

547
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Speaker 5: the big tent party and everybody come in and everybody

548
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Speaker 5: here is welcome. But that is clearly and it may

549
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Speaker 5: have been true at one point in time, but it's

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Speaker 5: clearly no longer the case here because with what you've

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Speaker 5: gotten the Trump administration is you've got people that maybe

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Speaker 5: don't agree with Trump on the vast majority of his positions,

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Speaker 5: but they find one or two or three positions that

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Speaker 5: they do agree on, and Trump says, Okay, come on in.

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Speaker 5: Look back to we just talked about RFK Junior. Look

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Speaker 5: back to when he was brought in and endorsed Donald Trump,

557
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Speaker 5: and Donald Trump told him, great, you know what, We're

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Speaker 5: going to work on healthcare together. That's a passion of yours.

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Speaker 5: It's an area of strength.

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Speaker 4: Don't talk to me about the environment, nothing else.

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Speaker 5: Don't talk to me about anything else other than that,

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Speaker 5: and certainly not the environment, because RFK Junior is a

563
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Speaker 5: total whack job on the environment, and he's done that.

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard him say a peep about the environment.

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Speaker 5: And there's certainly plenty of things that Nicki Minaj and

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump disagree on, but there's those one, two or

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Speaker 5: three things that they agree on.

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Speaker 4: And so the Republicans say, yeah, come on here, and.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about these things, and we'll fight about the others,

570
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Speaker 5: but let's talk and work toward some success on what

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Speaker 5: we do agree on. And then you look at the

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Speaker 5: liberals and the Democrats, and if you try to be

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Speaker 5: part of that group right now, there is a checklist

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Speaker 5: of probably fifteen or twenty different litmus tests that you

575
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Speaker 5: must agree one hundred percent with the liberal side of

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Speaker 5: the of the Democrat party on or else you are

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Speaker 5: not accepted. In fact, not only you're not accepted, you're

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Speaker 5: not invited to come join our party.

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Speaker 4: And we're not coming to your house for Thanksgiving anymore.

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Speaker 2: There. Speaking of music and musicians, the lineup for the

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Speaker 2: All American halftime show has been announced. This is the

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Speaker 2: Turning Point USA halftime Show. They they have said that

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Speaker 2: it's going to be Kid Rock, Brantley, Gilbert Lee, Brice

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Speaker 2: and Gabby Barrett and that's going to take place on

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Speaker 2: Sunday and they're going to have it on Rumble and

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Speaker 2: X and on YouTube as well.

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Speaker 5: I recognized one of those names the artists, I recognize,

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Speaker 5: Kid Rock.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting because we ever since Bad Bundy was announced

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Speaker 5: as the super Bowl halftime show, we heard people and

592
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Speaker 5: heard people from Turning Point USA that said, hey, you know,

593
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Speaker 5: we should put together a one of our own counter

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Speaker 5: show that people can tune into. And that was months

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Speaker 5: and months ago, and then you really didn't hear anything

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Speaker 5: much about it. I don't know if this is indicative

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Speaker 5: of it just them throwing together to you know, getting

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Speaker 5: the details finalized at the last minute. But we're only

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Speaker 5: a couple of days away here from the super Bowl

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Speaker 5: and we just finally got this announcement. And this isn't

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Speaker 5: new either. I remember years ago MTV would run a

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Speaker 5: counter performance to the super Bowl halftime show. You got

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Speaker 5: the Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet. That's been going on

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Speaker 5: for a long time. So there's been a lot of

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Speaker 5: networks that have always said, hey, if you don't like

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Speaker 5: what's going on with the super Bowl halftime show, we

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Speaker 5: got something different. For you come on over here. And

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Speaker 5: so it's interesting that Turning Point USA is doing this.

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Speaker 5: It'll be really interesting to see what kind of an

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Speaker 5: audience they get for this way.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Super Bowl, so there's going to be

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Speaker 2: four US Navy tactical squadrons and Air Force aircraft performing

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Speaker 2: a unified eight aircraft flyover. They're going to have Stingers,

614
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Speaker 2: Bounty Hunters, Golden Dragons, Warhawks, and all of these things

615
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Speaker 2: are also going to be marking the Navy's two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fiftieth anniversary of American Independence as well as they

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Speaker 2: fly over.

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Speaker 5: Is there anything better at a sporting event than a

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Speaker 5: flyover happening during the national anthem? It is just the

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Speaker 5: absolute best that I love how we've done so many

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Speaker 5: different ones, and I can remember one specifically. We were

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Speaker 5: up at a Notre Dame game in South Bend and

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Speaker 5: we actually got a B two, a B two stealth

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Speaker 5: bomber flyover at Notre Dame and you just you hear

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Speaker 5: the national anthem playing, You're with the crowd of eighty

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Speaker 5: thousand people and everybody's cheering and screaming, and you get

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Speaker 5: that flyover and it's just you get that swell of

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Speaker 5: patriotic feeling and I just love it. And it'll be

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Speaker 5: interesting to see this flyover at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 5: Good thing is they're playing at an open air stadium.

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Speaker 5: Most NFL stadiums, especially the new ones, are all being

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Speaker 5: built with domes on them, which kind of lessens the

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Speaker 5: impact of a flyover. But Levi Stadium in San Francisco

635
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Speaker 5: is an open air stadium, so everybody at the at

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Speaker 5: the game this weekend will be actually see that flyover.

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Speaker 2: And when you watch that, keep in mind it's Commander

638
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Speaker 2: Mike Jennings, who is a Moorsville Natum, who's native, who's

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Speaker 2: going to be leading the Navy contingent.

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Speaker 5: So we've got an Indiana connection all the way out

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Speaker 5: in San Francisco, California. We've got our Indiana connection for

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Love everything about it.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WYBC. Lots of layoffs at

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Speaker 2: the Washington Post, as reported by The New York Times.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's interesting. Other media outlets want to.

646
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Speaker 2: Report on the demise of their competitors. So about thirty

647
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Speaker 2: percent of all employees over three hundred or roughly eight

648
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Speaker 2: hundred journalists were laid off. The business side was especially

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Speaker 2: affected as well as the sports section, which has completely closed.

650
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Speaker 2: Now they've got the metro section which has been reduced,

651
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Speaker 2: the books section has closed, and all of the photographers

652
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Speaker 2: were laid off, and their international coverage was reduced as well.

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Speaker 2: They say this is because of declining revenue, falling online traffic.

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Speaker 2: It's nearly been cut in half over the past three years.

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Speaker 2: Also the rise of AI and the desire to focus

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Speaker 2: on national news, politics, business and health, and that's why

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Speaker 2: they're scaling back their local, their sports, their books, and

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Speaker 2: their international coverage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they completely eliminated the entire sports department. It's completely gone.

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Speaker 5: And you will hear a lot of journalists on social

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Speaker 5: media and on television and there will be an incredible

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Speaker 5: amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth and this awful

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Speaker 5: thing that just happened and how this is a threat

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Speaker 5: to our democracy. Here is the bottom line on this,

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Speaker 5: and this has been true for a long time now,

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Speaker 5: and as time goes by, it just keeps getting more

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Speaker 5: and more true. And that is the fact that the

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Speaker 5: business of journalism, and I don't care what you're doing,

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Speaker 5: everything is a business somebody. If you're doing work, somebody's

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Speaker 5: got to pay you to do that work or else

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Speaker 5: it's never gonna happen. But the business of journalism, the

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Speaker 5: business model associated with journalism is broken and it does

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Speaker 5: not work. And what these people at the Washington Post

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Speaker 5: were producing was a product that the public was not

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Speaker 5: willing to pay for, either by subscribing to the paper

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Speaker 5: or subscribing to them on their website, or by you know,

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Speaker 5: going to the advertisers that are that are part of

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Speaker 5: this newspaper.

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Speaker 4: This is not that big of a surprise.

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Speaker 5: If you work for a newspaper, you know, chances are

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Speaker 5: you've been through layoffs and probably more layoffs are coming

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Speaker 5: in your future because it is just a flat out

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Speaker 5: broken business model.

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Speaker 2: So Jeff Bezos owns the Post, and the Post has

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Speaker 2: had declining subscribers and readerships before Bezos tried to save

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Speaker 2: it once again. But it looks like it's not working.

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Speaker 2: The Washington Post represents one of the largest newsroom reductions

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Speaker 2: in recent US media history, and it does mark a

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Speaker 2: pivot towards what readers want out of their newspaper. They

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Speaker 2: want to be more focused on national and business rather

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Speaker 2: than sports.

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what I was talking about about how

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Speaker 5: the business model of journalism has been broken, and you

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Speaker 5: have got to produce something that people are willing to

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Speaker 5: pay for. And you can wrap yourself in the American

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Speaker 5: flag and democracy and the First Amendment and the wailing

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Speaker 5: and gnashing of teeth and talk about the decline of

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Speaker 5: Western civilization and the you know, the American culture. But

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's true for every

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Speaker 5: single business. And I'm sorry, but new His papers aren't special.

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Speaker 4: You're just not.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you were at one time, but you're not anymore.

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Speaker 5: You're a product like everything else. And if this if

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Speaker 5: the company, If I work for a company that produced

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Speaker 5: brake pads and we produce brake pads that nobody wanted

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Speaker 5: to pay for, guess what the employees would be laid off.

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Speaker 5: So the fact of the matter is the Washington Post

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Speaker 5: is continuing to produce a product that consumers don't want

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Speaker 5: to pay for. So guess what they're gonna have to do?

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Speaker 4: Layoffs. There's nothing else to do that.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to hear people blaming this on

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Speaker 5: billionaire Jeff Bezos. Billion Jeff Bezos has done everything he

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Speaker 5: can to save that paper. It was losing tens of

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Speaker 5: millions of dollars a year when he bought it at

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Speaker 5: a fire sale price over ten years ago. Only paid

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Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty billion dollars for that paper. It

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Speaker 5: was worth billions of dollars ten years before that, and

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Speaker 5: he's never been able to turn a profit for it.

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Speaker 5: He sank additionally tens and tens of millions of dollars

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Speaker 5: into this newspaper. At the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 5: a business and it's got a function with a profit

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Speaker 5: and loss that looks like any other business.

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Speaker 1: Well, you hit it right there.

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Speaker 2: It's a business and it's ratings and revenue. Ratings don't

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Speaker 2: always mean revenue, and revenue does not always equal ratings.

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Speaker 5: And readership does not always equal revenue in the newspaper business.

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Speaker 4: That's well the goal.

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Speaker 2: It's both ratings and revenue and if they don't come

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Speaker 2: hand in hand, ownership has to do something.

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