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Speaker 1: The Hammer Nigel Show. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer

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Speaker 1: right over there with a very special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 2: He is an investigative reporter for the Daily Signal, the

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Speaker 2: host of the Tony Kennett Cast seven o'clock right after

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Speaker 2: our program here at WIBC, and a man that just

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Speaker 2: loves spending a spare time at the Indianapolis International Airport.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kennett, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm being mobbed by all of the numerous

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Speaker 4: fans coming up to me and asking why I haven't

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Speaker 4: grabbed my luggage from the carouself.

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Speaker 5: So what's a wonderful time here?

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of stuff to get to. Big

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Speaker 2: shooting down in Dallas. We will touch on that here

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Speaker 2: in just a moment. An ice facility was attacked.

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Speaker 3: Earlier this morning.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, I think the water cooler discussion is Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Kimmel going back to do his program on ABC. A

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Speaker 2: lot of different layers to this, Tony. You've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of local affiliates saying no, we're good here. You've

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Speaker 2: got people like Jake Tapper saying free please, speech is saved.

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Speaker 3: Where are you at here?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 4: I even realized when he came on the air. I'm

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Speaker 4: serious with you guys. I actually asked on the show yesterday.

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Speaker 5: What does he come on like nine?

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Speaker 4: And my producer each out and said he comes on

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Speaker 4: to like eleven thirty, And I said, oh, youre god?

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Speaker 5: First of all? Who is up washing that?

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Speaker 4: And how drunk or stoned do you have to be

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Speaker 4: to suffer through Jimmy Kimmel putting that aside though, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, if your programming's bad, usually you get in trouble,

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Speaker 4: whether it's your boss or the government, or it's WYBC

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Speaker 4: station manager Matt Hibblin texting me at three in the morning,

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Speaker 4: and it's one of those things you gotta follow rules.

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Speaker 5: Kimmel sucks.

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Speaker 4: And I've seen the emails, including from individuals inside of Nextstar.

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Speaker 4: Brendan Carr did not force anyone to do anything. Kimmel

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Speaker 4: was stupid, and then they suspended him for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, THETCC, their sole function is to

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Speaker 1: regulate speed. I mean, not for nothing. But Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 1: told a flat out lie misinformation when he was talking

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Speaker 1: about how Charlie Kirk's killer was actually Maga.

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Speaker 4: So there are two things not allowed to do is

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Speaker 4: you guys know, for FCC regulations, you cannot lie about

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Speaker 4: a crime that takes place. You cannot lie about a

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Speaker 4: natural disaster that takes place.

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Speaker 5: Those are two.

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Speaker 4: Things the SCC really doesn't like. So I can, for example,

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Speaker 4: say Jasmine Crockett is a very intelligent person.

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Speaker 5: That's a lie.

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Speaker 4: But that's you know, the SCC doesn't care, and on

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Speaker 4: and come on. But in this case, if I lie

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Speaker 4: about a crime, then say, well, actually the shooter did

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Speaker 4: it because of this other reason. That is an FCC violation.

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Speaker 4: On public airwaves, and if you're ABC, you're passing yourself

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Speaker 4: off his news. Even an entertainment program, let's say like

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Speaker 4: Hammer and Nigel that does entertainment and news and is

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Speaker 4: enjoyable to listen to and doesn't make you want to

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Speaker 4: slit your wrists.

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Speaker 5: Well, you guys have to follow the rules. Jimmy Kimmel two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what's funny to me is it's almost the Bruce

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Speaker 2: willis Welcome to the party pal moment here because watching

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Speaker 2: Jake Tapper sit down and do an interview I think

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Speaker 2: it was with Seth Myers basically saying, oh, this is

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Speaker 2: such a big deal for free speech when he was

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Speaker 2: completely silent when people were being deplatformed for COVID, when

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden laptop story broke, he was the first

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Speaker 2: one giving you a lecture, and now all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden he's a champion for free speech.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, it's even worse though, because it was with Jake

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Speaker 4: Tapper of CNN that Seth Myers down with and he's

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Speaker 4: even worse about those lectures. So as soon as the

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Speaker 4: COVID stuff, as soon as the twenty twenty election stuff.

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Speaker 4: Tapper is like the little media stooge that they bring

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of like when they put diet on

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Speaker 4: him on camera for a few seconds, then asks, oh,

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Speaker 4: how terrible is all of this? And Jake Tapper puts

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Speaker 5: Impression, Well that's very bad, and the cloud crack clapped.

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Speaker 5: You are brave, and it's just embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: I want to send their parents a sympathy card.

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you think anything with Jimmy Kimmel's going to change.

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Speaker 1: He was very, very heartfelt. His voice was starting to crack,

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Speaker 1: starting to cry. I had no intention of making light

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Speaker 1: the end of the monologue he brought up Erica Kirk

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Speaker 1: forgave the killer and that's what we all need to do.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've been down this road before with

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Speaker 3: Tone down the rhetoric.

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Speaker 1: Is anything going to change in terms of Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Sinclair is still not letting Kimmel

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Speaker 4: back on air, at least as far as I'm obviously

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Speaker 4: can change. That could change by the time that you

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Speaker 4: know this is you know, reaches at second or third hour.

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Speaker 4: But what's important here to remember is number one, No,

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Speaker 4: it's not going to change the left. As we saw

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Speaker 4: in Dallas this morning, the violent rhetoric continues. However, there's

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Speaker 4: a bigger lesson to learn here. A broadcaster is not

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Speaker 4: judged on what they say under pressure. A broadcaster is

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Speaker 4: judged upon what they say when everyone is cheering.

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Speaker 5: Because when you think you have the open.

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Speaker 4: Runway and you can say whatever you want, that is

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Speaker 4: when what is inside of you comes out, not under pressure,

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Speaker 4: then you say what you know you're supposed to say.

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Speaker 4: When Kimmel was threatened by the network, he then said

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Speaker 4: the right thing. But when everyone was cheering him, what

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Speaker 4: did he say? Filthy, disgusting, inhuman garbage. And again, I've

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Speaker 4: never been fined by the FCC. I've never been criticized

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Speaker 4: for them a human rhetoric or whatever. So you know,

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Speaker 4: we may also get more viewers than Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I know we do. It sucks to suck jotty.

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Speaker 3: With Tony Kennet here on the hammer.

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Speaker 1: It's the next Tony Kenned T shirt. It sucks to suck.

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Speaker 2: Hey one more thing on the whole censorship thing, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll move on to some other stuff. It feels

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Speaker 2: ordering them to suppress people should be a much bigger deal,

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Speaker 2: But I don't feel like it's getting the attention It

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Speaker 4: I have heard from someone on the inside of alphabet

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Speaker 4: Google itself that they were planning on releasing this about

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Speaker 4: a week and a half away. But they're a Google

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Speaker 4: kind of a junior executive at Alphabet who made the

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Speaker 4: decision to air this letter with the Oversight Committee like

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Speaker 4: you guys think your free speech advocates well your administration

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Speaker 4: that you supported that Colebert and Kimmel and Jake Tapper

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Speaker 4: and Seth Meyers supported you directly yelled us, screamed at us.

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Speaker 4: According to Mark Zuckerberg over it, and made up from

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Speaker 4: his emails he aired out on Joe Rogan, told us

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Speaker 4: I'll say, it feels really nice to have a couple

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Speaker 4: of episodes that doesn't have that Wikipedia notice underneath that

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Speaker 4: says actually Tony was supposed to be wearing three masks

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Speaker 4: over his butt or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, right, So let's go down to Dallas. Now,

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Speaker 2: there was a shooting at an ice facility this morning.

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Speaker 2: The gunman, twenty nine year old Joshua John and I

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Speaker 2: hate even saying his name, but for the sake of

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Speaker 2: and I tend to do this Tony. But last night

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Speaker 2: on Jimmy Kimmel's show, Gavin Newsom was his first guest.

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Speaker 2: Spends a majority of his time just crapping all over Ice,

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Speaker 2: basically saying, if somebody comes out of an unmarked van,

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Speaker 2: you got to push back on him. Maybe it's a coincidence,

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Speaker 2: but you know, six to twelve hours later, there's a

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Speaker 2: shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas. Again, maybe it's

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Speaker 2: a coincidence, but damn, that's a hell of a one.

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Speaker 4: It is a general rhetoric thing. I had a lot

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Speaker 4: out that in Dallas from Dallas Representative Jasmine Crockett has

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Speaker 4: consistently called immigration Customs enforcement agents and facilities fascist, Nazi, Gestapo,

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Speaker 4: slave patrol, fight it, kill, whatever you have to do,

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Speaker 4: more than any other person in Congress. The rhetoric is

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Speaker 4: inciting direct open terrorism, actual like in the legal text terrorism.

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Speaker 4: And so because of this what we have, By the way,

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Speaker 4: I was criticized for pointing this out immediately.

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Speaker 6: When we don't know the motive yet. You need to

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Speaker 6: wait until we have I'll have the information. No, I

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Speaker 6: don't need to, because the idea that this was just

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Speaker 6: It was an ice facility. The shooter had stuff written

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Speaker 6: to stop. It has to stop now.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I just saw the cry on on

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Speaker 1: Fox News that gavinor Newsom signed a new bill into

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Speaker 1: law that forbids law enforcement from wearing masks. How ironic

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Speaker 1: is that?

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Speaker 5: So you could still be.

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Speaker 2: Antifa and wear masks till the cows come home. Sure,

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Speaker 2: but you can't show up to a riot covering your face.

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Speaker 2: Do I understand this correctly?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I sort of.

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Speaker 4: Again, Gavin Newsom has no authority over federal officials in

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Speaker 4: the state of California. I mean, it's like Michael Scott

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Speaker 4: that's not my state. And so, unfortunately, Golden Corral is

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Speaker 4: still an endangered species around him.

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Speaker 2: So this quote unquote health director at Ball State lost

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Speaker 2: her job because she wrote something what was deemed inappropriate

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't mean to interrupt. Why did

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Speaker 1: you say quote unquote health director.

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Speaker 2: Because she is a rather large waw and I feel

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Speaker 2: like that's kind of burying the lead, right. The real

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Speaker 2: story is why is the notorious pig in charge of health?

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that later. But Tony kenned I

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Speaker 2: turned to you. The ACLU is now partnered with this

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Speaker 3: What are we looking at here?

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Speaker 4: First of all, it's not going to happen. The ACLU

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Speaker 4: consistently loses in Indiana because they're bad at what they do.

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Speaker 4: They have not been a good organization in a very

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Speaker 4: long time. They don't actually protect civil liberties whatsoever. Despite

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Speaker 4: no longer at the Ball State Preserve, I'll say I.

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Speaker 5: Knew who he was.

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Speaker 4: She was also one of the people who celebrated openly

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Speaker 4: when I was canned from Indianapolis. Told the schools for saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: I know, crazy stuff. So on a personal level, I

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Speaker 4: for what I said when I was at Indianapolis. I

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Speaker 4: acted as a whistleblower. But when I said that Patricia

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Speaker 4: Payne is a nasty, old, bigoted lady who smells like

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Speaker 4: gnarfl lumps, that's something I'm responsible for saying.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, if Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Public Schools doesn't like it, they have the legal right

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Speaker 4: to remove me. I said that then, and I say

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Speaker 4: that now. If you get out there and celebrate the

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Speaker 4: death of a person, and you're in an educational institution

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Speaker 4: and you're celebrating the advocacy of violence against a side

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Speaker 4: of the political aisle, I don't think that you have

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Speaker 4: health students for this country's best interest at heart. Get

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Speaker 4: out of here. It's not my responsibility to give you

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Speaker 4: a job, especially since you have about as much in

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Speaker 4: common with health as Rosy o' donald does with modesty.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's saying that this woman needs to be in jail

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Speaker 2: or she needs to be deplatformed or we need the docs. No,

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Speaker 2: but if I say something stupid on my personal social

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Speaker 2: media about our company, I'm not going to be taken

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Speaker 2: off in a paddy wagon. But I'm probably not coming

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Speaker 2: to work tomorrow too. You could totally be fired for that, correct.

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Speaker 4: Now, if I decided to get out tomorrow and start

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Speaker 4: talking about all of the different racial flours I've learned

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Speaker 4: in my time on this earth, you know, David wouldn't piblet.

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Speaker 4: WYBC would have a problem with that, and rightly so.

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Speaker 4: Even if it's my personal social media that doesn't reflect

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Speaker 4: what WIBC or Radio One believe is good for hosts

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Speaker 4: that they say we like these guys, we have.

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Speaker 5: Them on the air. It's more than just disagreement.

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Speaker 4: If I'm saying egregious things under my full name, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I see why they wouldn't want to employ me for that.

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Speaker 5: This isn't difficult.

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Speaker 2: And listen, Ball State gets state money. Ball State University Muncie,

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Speaker 2: they get some money from the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Now, Mike kill got my money, so screw it. I

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Speaker 4: want that university to be decent.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, brother, you're preaching to the choir.

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Speaker 2: And I know Mike kids are older than yours and nigees,

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Speaker 2: but this is the stuff that I think about. Imagine

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Speaker 2: paying all that money and the schedule comes out for

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Speaker 2: your son or daughter and they've got the notorious Pig

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Speaker 2: and Mike Hicks back to back. Imagine having that class

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Speaker 2: load up at fall State.

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Speaker 4: So first of all, I will again remind the public

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Speaker 4: that Mike Hicks threatened to come beat my ass in

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Speaker 4: a fight and a power sat up in Munty, and

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Speaker 4: I will again the only person whenever you're ready, Chicken boy.

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Speaker 5: Oh AnyWho.

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Speaker 4: Aside from that, if my children end up going to

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Speaker 4: one of these institutions, I.

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Speaker 5: Will have failed as a parent.

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Speaker 3: What's coming up at the Big Show tonight, We're.

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Speaker 4: Going to be airing a couple of things that are

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Speaker 4: really on my nerves about this Dallas shooting, about the

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Speaker 4: prominent left wing terrorism and maybe getting a lawsuit filed

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Speaker 4: on us.

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Speaker 5: It'll be a good time.

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Speaker 2: That's coming up tonight, seven o'clock here on ninety three

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Speaker 2: WIBC tonas Fire as always, we'll talk next week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to you guys and your lawyers.

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Speaker 3: The Hammer and Nigel Show