1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. 3 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: It was nice to see that I wasn't the only 4 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: person who noticed that nothing burned to the ground. 5 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: I was. 6 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Discussing how the assassination of Charlie Kirk has a lot 7 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: of offshoot stories that we've now seen about how people respond, both. 8 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: Good and bad. How people who are so filled. 9 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: With their own venom, how they respond by cheering. 10 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: Death, cheering it they not like us. Kendrick was very right, 11 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. 12 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com, the live stream 13 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: over there on YouTube, YouTube dot com, slash Tony Katz. 14 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: That's how you get to be a part of it. 15 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: Twitter x Tony Kats, Facebook, Tony Kats Radio and listen 16 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: all across your radio dot great affiliates and thrilled to 17 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: be here and can't thank you guys enough. 18 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: It needs to be noted. 19 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: That amongst all the responses that we've seen, we've seen 20 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: the left cheering this. We've seen the left mocking this. 21 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: We have seen people like like Ilhan Omar engage in 22 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: some very very ugly talking and real pseudo intellectualism that 23 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: is excused by her compatriots and fellow hater like Meddi Hassan. 24 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: We're running out of time. 25 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: Michael Harnandez asked a good question on YouTube. He says, 26 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: in this environment, why would you take away secret service 27 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: protection from the former vice president? Trump happily pulled protection 28 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 4: from Harris and I believe from people like John Bolton, 29 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: who I'm not a fan of, but I don't want 30 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: to see John Bolton killed. He pulled protection from a 31 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: lot of people he doesn't like. Doesn't sound like someone 32 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: taking political violence that seriously when it's people he doesn't like. 33 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: No, I mean, And that's the thing, it's they are 34 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: never willing or care to worry about. When you know, 35 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 5: it's it's those of us on the other side of 36 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: the aisle that are getting death threads that have had 37 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 5: their house to shut up, that have had you know, 38 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 5: people show up to their homes. 39 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: Stop it, Representative Omar, just stop it. You said that 40 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: members of Congress were paid off by the Jews. You 41 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: may very well have married your own brother to say 42 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: in the country something I'd like to see at least 43 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: investigated so we could either determine its a veracity or 44 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: put that rumor to rest. You came into Congress with nothing, 45 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: and you not thirty million dollars, And when Supreme Court 46 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: justices were being threatened, there was nothing to say. No 47 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: one should be coming to your home, no one should 48 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: be threatening you. 49 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: They just shouldn't vote for you. 50 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: But when it comes to Kamala Harris, the former vice 51 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: president of the United States Secret Service, protection ends it 52 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: wasn't polled, it ended. 53 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Same thing was true for Vice President Mike Pence. It ended. 54 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: That's it. 55 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: But if you want to pay for her security, you're 56 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: more than welcome to. This was a lie amongst a 57 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: series of lies that Ilkhanimar told regarding basically, well Charlie Kirkin, 58 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: he's bored the Second Amendment. 59 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, well, these things happen, obscene stuff. But something happened 60 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: over the last. 61 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: Two days that no one noticed, because well, the thing 62 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: that happens is actually the thing that didn't happen. 63 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: And the thing that didn't happen. 64 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Is not a single city, nor building, nor business was 65 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: burned to the ground. The people who followed Charlie Kirker 66 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: white supremacist. That's what we got told. The people who 67 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: follow Charlie Kirker fascists. The people who listened, participated in 68 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: went to his events of that of Charlie kirk on 69 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: an American. 70 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: Ideologues. 71 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: Yet not a single business burned to the ground, not 72 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: a single window was broken. 73 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: We would have heard it right. 74 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: You want to do me a favor of their petitioner 75 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: land into a quick check of the reporting, just to 76 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: make sure I'm not wrong. A guy with five million 77 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: followers on social media who built an organization amazingly, so, 78 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: may I add aground the globe. 79 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: No one got. 80 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: Hurt, no one got attacked, and I was very happy 81 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: to see that. 82 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: The governor of Utah made mention of this. 83 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 6: I want you to look at how Utahan's reacted the 84 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 6: last two nights. There was no rioting, there's no looting, 85 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 6: there were no cars set on fire, there's no violence. 86 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: There were visuals and prayers and people coming together to 87 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 6: share the humanity. And that, as and gentlemen, I believe 88 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 6: is the answer to this. We can return violence with 89 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: vio violence. We can return hate with hate. And that's 90 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 6: the problem with political violence is it metastasizes. 91 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: It does that is true. 92 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: So first to the observation, to the observation that no 93 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: one said anything on fire. And it's more than just 94 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: Utah Governor Cox. Charlie Kirk was known coast to coast. 95 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: No one anywhere. Can't say that about the political left, 96 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: can't say that about Black Lives Matter, can't say that 97 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: about George Floyd riots, where the violence was condoned and 98 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: was actually lauded and glorified, it was lifted up. 99 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: No one did anything like that. 100 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: And that's the point that I only wish that the 101 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: governor had gotten to. That's the difference the argument they 102 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: make about January sixth, and look at how the president 103 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: and cited these people to violence and positioned them to violence. 104 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: I have made the argument that the president should have 105 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: been much more aggressive to the a protection of then 106 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Vice President Mike Penn's I've made this argument a million 107 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: times and saying everybody go home. 108 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: It should have happened faster. 109 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: But the argument that somehow he brought those people to 110 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: the Capitol to wage. 111 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: War is a lie, and it's. 112 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: Always been a lie, And no matter how much bluster 113 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: the left puts on it, no matter what kind of 114 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: television show they produced, which they mean they brought in 115 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: a showrunner from ABC for the love of the Lord 116 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: to do those prime time J six kind of specials 117 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: where there was no rebuttal it was beyond Kangaroo with 118 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: the Veneer that somehow this had legitimacy. I mean, Adam 119 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: Kiddinger and Liz Cheney should still be embarrassed. So, by 120 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: the way, should the Democrats with that one involve shame? 121 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: And that's not gonna happen. 122 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: There was no violence, And you know how amazing it 123 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: is that after the assassination no one had to put 124 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: out a statement, Hey, no violence tonight. Hey hey, hey 125 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: be cool, let's not hurt anybody tonight. No one's gonna 126 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: hurt anybody. Not too far from me is a college campus, 127 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: and they held a vigil. They woke up the next morning, 128 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: September eleventh, and they gathered on the quad and they 129 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: prayed and they talked. 130 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: By the way, for. 131 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: Any college campus out there, anyone out there, you should 132 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: keep doing the events. Certainly, I'm going to make the 133 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: assumption of the Turning Points going to do exactly that. 134 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody at Turning Point. I have no 135 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: connection to Turning Point. I'm assuming they're gonna do exactly that. 136 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: But others should as well, keep talking, keep sharing, and 137 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: to any extent I can help, whether it's me or 138 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: somebody I know that you want to get access to 139 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: reach out. 140 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: Absolutely, keep doing it. 141 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: Do not stop, Do not stop engaging and sharing and talking. 142 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: But they didn't riot on their college campuses. They held 143 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: prayer vigils. We're different. Our methodology, our philosophy, our basis 144 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: is different. Is it the faith component? Charlie Kirk born again, 145 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: an evangelical, a believer in his faith, a guy who 146 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: would express his faith. Were these people like minded and 147 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: therefore this is. 148 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: The way you act? 149 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: Was it because the conservative mind does not think of destruction. 150 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: They think about how to engage a better tomorrow, how 151 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: to come together, as opposed to how to tear down? 152 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: Is it because as a matter of just sheer ideology, 153 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: we don't believe that destruction is the way to get to. 154 00:10:49,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: Things, but Antifa does and black lives matter? Does? I mean, 155 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: we have the data, we saw, what happened. What are 156 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: we talking about? I think it is important to note that. 157 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: This horror happened and not a single bit of damage 158 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: was done. 159 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: I think that's something you should share with your kids, share. 160 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: With your friends, share with your spouses, because in that 161 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: there is a story, there is a story about the 162 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: fact that not only did nothing happen, we didn't even 163 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: think to think that something could it. Never you look 164 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: at what look in the mirror. It never came to 165 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: your mind. You never once said, man, I really hope 166 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: nobody said anything on fire tonight. Never never happened. Now, 167 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: Clay in the chat room said that historically black colleges 168 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: and universities had bomb threats. I heard about that, but 169 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: I haven't seen a story about a producier land and 170 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: see if you can find it. Have we found out 171 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: who who did the threatening? Okay, I wasn't talking to 172 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: you about that land. I was asking a question. You 173 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: tell me that there was a bump, and I won't 174 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: say no to that. My question is who did the threatening? 175 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: Because I've been told very often look at the racism 176 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: on college campuses. My gosh, a noose was left in 177 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: this professor's office, and it turns out the professor made 178 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: the noose. That story has happened repeatedly. Oh look, this 179 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: person who is black got attacked. It turns out they're 180 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: just smollett. So with all due respect, Clay and I 181 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: appreciate you coming to the chat room. Man, You're always welcome. 182 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: Don't tell me that the threat took place. 183 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: Tell me who was doing the threatening, because until you 184 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: can tell me who you got nothing. I can tell 185 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: you that anybody who had a car yesterday, unless they 186 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: live in San Francisco, had a car today. And everybody 187 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: who had a house yesterday had a house today. And 188 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: every Democrat slept easy knowing that. 189 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: It wouldn't come. 190 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: Because the people, not even just on the political right, 191 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: the rational people, they're moderates, they're independence, they may be religious, 192 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: maybe not, I don't know, but they're here. They're a 193 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: part of this show. They are a part of our lives. 194 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: They are our friends. They should see that nothing of 195 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: a violent nature took place. And that's a real story 196 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: about a difference in these two Americas we seem to have. 197 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: And I think that story is worthy of mentioning to 198 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: your kids, to your friends on. 199 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: The barstool at happy hour a little bit later today 200 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: over the world. 201 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Weekend, while you grill of steak, and oh you should 202 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: grill a steak, I have some prime rabbis. No, you're 203 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: not invited. They're all from me. They I know, very 204 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: selfish with a steak. It's worth noting, and I'm glad 205 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: that Governor Cox did just that. I'm Tony Katz smoking 206 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: the Arturo foonte Hemingway. It's a great, great cigar for 207 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: the price point. My advice, get one immediately, Tony Katz, 208 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. I often 209 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: discuss how the border is the biggest story in America. 210 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: Bill mallugit Over at Fox News has a has a 211 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: story about a guy who was released from ICE custody 212 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: by the Biden administration in January of twenty twenty five, 213 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: January thirteenth, one week before Donald Trump took office. Why 214 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: was he released? No significant likelihood of removal in the 215 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: foreseeable future. They could not enforce the deportation because he's Cuba, 216 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: and Cuba want to cooperate. We have airplanes, we have parachutes. 217 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: I don't need Cuba's cooperation at all in the slightest. 218 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: Send more cigars. That's all I've got for you. 219 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: And you don't even need a Cuban cigar today. 220 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: The seed is everywhere. There's so much good stuff happening 221 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: in so many parts. In Nicaragua, Honduras, the Dominican it's spectacular. 222 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: I'll talk cigars later. 223 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: This guy's criminal history was involving false imprisonment in decency 224 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: with a child in Texas, grand theft of a vehicle 225 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: in Florida, carjacking, and false imprisonment. He was acquitted on 226 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: the carjacking in California, convicted of false imprisonment. And this 227 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: guy took a machete and beheaded a hotel manager a 228 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: motel manager in Dallas, Texas. 229 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: It was a argument with the motel manager. 230 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: The manager was beheaded in front of his wife and son, 231 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: to which this illegal immigrant kicked the head, picked it up. 232 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: And threw it in a dumpster. 233 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: The border continues to be the biggest story in America, 234 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: and every single move made to engage the deportations of 235 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants is the right move. The argument often made 236 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: is hard working people trying to lead a better life. 237 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: I don't disagree that that exists. I don't disagree that 238 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: that exists. 239 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: The problem is if the argument comes from people who 240 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: will not accept the fact there's a difference between legal 241 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: and illegal immigration. They purposefully will never say the words 242 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: they want to say immigrants, as if somehow we're going 243 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: after people who are here legally somehow we are the violators. 244 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: It's a lie, it's a manipulation, it's a fraud, and 245 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: sadly there are some people who refuse to accept reality. 246 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: And buy into it. 247 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: The move that must come, that must continue to take place, 248 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: is the deportation of these people at breakneck speed. 249 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: Do I believe in speedy trials? 250 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: No, which is to say I don't believe that a 251 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: trial should be. 252 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: Done with speed as opposed to done accurately. 253 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: Do I believe in speedy deportations for illegal immigrants? 254 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: Yes? Do I believe in due process? Yes? 255 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Illegal immigrants don't have the due process of citizens, and 256 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: I want it remembered and kill Bregio Garcia is not 257 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: a Maryland man, and I don't care if he's in 258 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Uganda or anywhere else, as long as he's not here. 259 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: He cannot walk free in the United States, connected to 260 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: MS thirteen, connected to human trafficking. 261 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: Who would want this guy? 262 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: No wonder El Salvador doesn't want to back and they 263 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: took him. 264 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: There is very clearly an argument to be made. 265 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: That when they say, you know, illegal immigrants or immigrants 266 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: commit less crimes and American citizens. 267 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: First of all, we're talking about legal immigrants. 268 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: Of course, and secondly, there are less illegal immigrants than 269 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: there are American citizens, so by percentage, of course that's true. 270 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: But I can reduce the amount of a legal immigrant 271 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: crime to zero if we didn't have illegal immigrants in 272 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: the country. 273 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just true. Those are the facts. 274 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 2: The border remains the biggest story in America, and the 275 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: first towards our safety and security is removing the people 276 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: from the country who are a criminal element who came 277 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: to the country illegally. And yes, I'm sure there are 278 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: people who came to the country illegally who want to 279 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: lead a good life. They should come legally and we 280 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: should say welcome with open arms. But the criminal element, 281 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: they got to go or they have to be imprisoned. 282 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: And that's that. 283 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: That motel manager should be alive. Today, I'm Tony kat. 284 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: I share with you now some of my commentary from 285 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: last night. If you subscribe on YouTube, you saw the 286 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: video or follow on Twitter x you saw it as well. 287 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 288 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: Having had a day to take in the assassination of 289 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, where people are engaging in responses where my 290 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: own head was outside of just the disgust, in the shock, 291 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: what is the central thesis that I wanted to get 292 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: across to you? 293 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: So I shared this last night and now I share this. 294 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: With you, that what we saw was the efforts and 295 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: the desire to silence, and that is of course the 296 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: goal of terrorism. This was political terrorism. 297 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: Listen. 298 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: So, having had now a chance to process the assassination 299 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk, first assassination seems to fit what it 300 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: is we saw there in Utah or in Utah at 301 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: Utah Valley University. Yeah, Charlie Kirk wasn't a politician, but 302 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: certainly political. And certainly one can argue, even though we 303 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: don't have a shooter in custody yet, absolutely we've got 304 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: ourselves somebody who was killed because of their political belief, 305 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: because of their political affiliation, because their political connections, because 306 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: of what they said. And I think that the term 307 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: assassination fits. And a lot of people, a lot of 308 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: radio hosts, a lot of TV people who had connection 309 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: to him, have all had their commentaries and they've ranged 310 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: from angry and rage filled to sad and introspective. I 311 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't actually expect anything else. And certainly I think for 312 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people, they saw for the first time 313 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: exactly the kind of reach Charlie Kirk had. I didn't 314 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: know Charlie. I met him once at a sea pack 315 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: event years ago. I spoke at one turning point event 316 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: chapter event here in Indianapolis. That's my total amounts of connection. 317 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: A lot of people will tell you about all the 318 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: connections they had. I don't question those. I do ask 319 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: what our plan is, because one thing that is clear 320 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: is that the rubicon has been crossed. If indeed we're 321 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: shooting at people for their political beliefs, We're not talking 322 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: about candidates, We're not talking about politicians. If we go 323 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: through history, we will see example after example after example 324 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: of politicians being attacked, being killed for political beliefs by 325 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: radicals and others. We've seen this in the United States, 326 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: We've seen this in other countries. The assassination of Charlie 327 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: Kirk is different. This is crossing the rubicon. Some people 328 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: on the left want to say, well, how come you're 329 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: not talking about. 330 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: This murder or that murder. We're talking about a lot 331 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: of murders. We're talking about a lot of horror that's 332 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: going on. 333 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: We talked about Arena Zarutzka in Charlotte. We were told 334 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: that we were just inventing that story, making it more 335 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: than it was. This woman who was stabbed to death 336 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: on the light rail and no one came to her aid. 337 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: They ran from trying to help her. This is about 338 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: a broken society that we're witnessing and we're seeing, and 339 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: some people want immediately say, well, it's because you won't 340 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: get rid of guns. And if you got rid of guns, 341 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have these problems millions and millions and millions 342 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: of law abiding gun owners. The gun is not the issue. 343 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: It is the people firing the gun that is the issue. 344 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: And while the left may think that. 345 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: That's somehow avoiding the bigger story where you're gonna have 346 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: more of these problems, not if we engage culturally about 347 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: what it is that we're seeing. That is a hard subject. 348 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: I don't claim to have every answer. What I bring, 349 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: hopefully is the reminder that a day was taken to process, 350 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: which I think makes sense. And tomorrow, just like every 351 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: radio host I know is on the air today, they'll 352 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: be on the air tomorrow. Just like everybody who does 353 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: commentary was speaking today, They're gonna speak tomorrow, and that 354 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: is the only answer. Our answers have to come in 355 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: a ballot box. They cannot come via the barrel of 356 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: the gun. But that doesn't mean we're supposed to be 357 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: people who await bad things to happen to us, as 358 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: if somehow martyrdom is valuable. Let's be clear, it's not. 359 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was better for the conversation alive than as 360 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: a martyr. And while people may want to make him one, 361 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: and he may very well end up being one, and 362 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: there's a legacy that clearly can grow from here and 363 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: most probably will, we're not better off because he's gone. 364 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: There's no win. 365 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: In this, no, no, What is best is that all 366 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: issues get settled at the ballot box and we keep speaking. 367 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: Now, in order to keep speaking, you. 368 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: Have to accept the fact that there is a violent 369 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: element out there, radicalized for a whole series of reasons, 370 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: and that isn't going to go away overnight. There is 371 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: no switch that changes this that all of a sudden 372 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: gets people to say, oh, oh okay, we'll just agree 373 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: to disagree, or we'll go vote and sometimes we'll win 374 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: and sometimes we'll lose. 375 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: No, that's not it. 376 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: The only way out is through, and that means that 377 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: you still have to do your events, you still have 378 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: to go meet people, you still have to walk down 379 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: the street, you still. 380 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: Have to go out to dinner. 381 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: There are violent people out there who have gotten themselves 382 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: totally into the idea that somehow the people on the 383 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: political right have to be destroyed. 384 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: You know. 385 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: It's the Charles Croudhammer line, Rest his soul. The right 386 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: things the left is wrong, and the left thinks the 387 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: right is evil. Now there's a lot of truth to that, 388 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: and there will be people on the left to say, well, 389 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: there's plenty of violence from the political right. The argument 390 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: before us is who is killing whom? 391 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: And the recent history, even if we only go back. 392 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: To the shooting of Congressman Steve Scalise, is that the 393 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: left is killing the right. We want to talk about 394 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: what happened in Minnesota where lawmakers are killed. We still 395 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: don't have the full story there, and we should. But 396 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: we are living in a moment that this cannot be 397 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: denied and it shouldn't be mean it's everybody on the left, 398 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: absolutely not. Does this mean that there are people who 399 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: are political leaders on the left who are absolutely excusing 400 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: this behavior. 401 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: Yes, it does all of them know too many. 402 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: Yes, certainly, if you were to watch the TikTok crowd, 403 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: you'd be sickened by the people who are cheering the 404 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: death of Charlie Kirk, cheering the killing of people on 405 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: the political right, going down that Matthew Dowd line of 406 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: reasoning that he said on MSNBC just an hour after 407 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: the shooting took. 408 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: Place, Well, you know, you say hateful things. 409 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: You should expect hateful things to happen, which is a 410 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: different way of saying, well, Charlie Kirk's skirt was too 411 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: short and that's why he was raped. 412 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: That is the exact same disgusting argument. 413 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: And to the credit of MSNBC, they fired Matthew, Dad 414 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: and good. The only thing we can do is tomorrow, 415 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: wake up, drink our coffee, brush our teeth, and go 416 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: about our lives, continuing these conversations, our conversations of what 417 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: is right and what is wrong, on our conversations of 418 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: how you create a better society and the things that 419 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: are doing great damage to society, and convincing people that 420 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: we are right and they are wrong and they should 421 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: vote in a certain direction so we can engage the 422 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: policies that create the more perfect union that get us 423 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 2: to the better place. I am no fool gosh, I 424 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: hope not. Is there going to be more violence? Why 425 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: would I believe there wouldn't be. Do I believe that 426 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: any radio hosts or television commentator is totally safe? Absolutely not, 427 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, And that's because for us. 428 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: We're more in the public eye. 429 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: Do I believe that anybody is safe because of their 430 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: Facebook post, or because of their ex post, because of 431 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: their Instagram posts or their TikTok No. I don't believe 432 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: there's actually any difference at this moment between what you're 433 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: writing about, what you're sharing, and what I'm sharing. Maybe 434 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: a different platform. I may have a bigger platform than you, 435 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: and there are other people who absolutely have a bigger 436 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: platform than I do. 437 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: But we are all in the same. 438 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: Boat, which is there are people out there who believe 439 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be allowed to speak. They have been told 440 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: so often that we are evil and a threat to 441 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: democracy that they have internalized it and they believe that 442 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: they have to do something about it. 443 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: I do believe this is the case. 444 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: When you take a look at the shooting of President 445 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: Trump Butler Pennsylvania. 446 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: This was absolutely the. 447 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: Case that was a lone wolf, someone who felt compelled 448 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: to do something because they've been told he is a. 449 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: Threat when he is not a threat. 450 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: A guy who listens to judges, appeals decisions, sure, utilizing 451 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: the justice system is not a dictator. As a matter 452 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: of a sheer definition. There is no debate that I 453 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: am right about this, that the facts are on my 454 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: side and on the side of rational thoughts. The idea 455 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: that Trump is a dictator is madness. But this is 456 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: bigger than Donald Trump. This is about people who believe 457 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: that anybody who disagrees with them is that same threat 458 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: and has to be taken out. Anybody who doesn't say 459 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: what they believe is somehow an aggressor, is somehow attacking, 460 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: somehow vilifying. 461 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: Is somehow demeaning. 462 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: My disagreement with policy, my disagreements with actions, is more 463 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: than acceptable, and so is yours. And because we might 464 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: disagree with others, sadly and sickeningly, we are the ones 465 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: being threatened. And the only way out is through the 466 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: only way out of this is to continue to be 467 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: people who speak about what it is we believe. 468 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: Utilizing facts, logic, and reason at all times. 469 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: What's least my way of doing it and engaging, trying 470 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: to persuade and not being deterred. 471 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I do believe other violent. 472 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: Acts will happen, and yes I think it's horrific and 473 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: gross and disgusting and evil, absolutely in every single way. 474 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: But I'm going to keep showing up to places. 475 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: Am I going to be aware and when I do 476 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 2: events as I do about security even more so? 477 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: And I already have security at my events? 478 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: Am I going to be aware of the security at 479 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: events I attend and ensure that it is proper? 480 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 481 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: But all the security in the world sometimes doesn't stop 482 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: the madman, doesn't stop the person who has been so 483 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: brainwashed and so utterly mentally destroyed, filled with such hate 484 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: that it rots the brain and leads them to horrific 485 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: action like we saw with Charlie Kirk. I have not 486 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: seen an incident that has moved so many people in 487 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: so many ways. And I didn't know Charlie, and I 488 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: know a lot of people who didn't know Charlie. 489 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: Who are just in a daze, like, my gosh, what 490 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: has happened here? What is happening here? Well, what is 491 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: happening here is that years. 492 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: Of cultural rot, years of these horrific claims. Years from 493 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: the time Charles Krauthammer rests his soul said those words. 494 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: The right things the left is wrong, and the left 495 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: thinks the right is evil. It has built itself up. 496 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: It built itself up to the zenith, and it doesn't 497 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: stop overnight. 498 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: There is no switch. The only way out is through where. 499 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: We continue to speak, where we continue to engage, where 500 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: we continue to try and persuade. We protect ourselves to 501 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: the best of our ability. We utilize our Second Amendment 502 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: rights unquestionably, we make sure to the best of our 503 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: ability that the security is there without giving up our liberty, 504 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: without giving up our freedom, and without living in any fear. 505 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: You have to walk down the street, you have to 506 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: go to the store, and you are allowed to speak 507 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: your mind, and you should even if you disagree with me, 508 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: which I think is badness, but you're allowed. 509 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: You shouldn't be afraid to. 510 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: The fear is the desire, because as much as we 511 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: can call what happened to Charlie kirk in assassination, we 512 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: should call it what it is. 513 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: Terrorism. 514 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: This is about trying to terrorize others into silence so 515 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: they don't engage, so they don't persuade, so they don't 516 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: bring it to the ballot box. They should live in 517 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: fear and quiet and submit. It's not the American way, 518 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: it's not your way. And I would only suggest that, 519 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: no matter how hard or how frightening it is. And 520 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: I get you, I hear you. I understand this. I 521 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: don't think we're any different. I think we're in the 522 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: same boat, no matter how frightening. We don't give in 523 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: to terrorists, not now and not ever. All the thoughts 524 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: and prayers in the world for Charlie Kirk's family and 525 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: friends who. 526 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: Are dealing with this and will be for the rest 527 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: of their lives, for all of us, keep talking. I'll 528 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: be listening. Agree or disagree. I'm Tony Katz. 529 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: So the Dow has been down today and the Nasdaq 530 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: has been moving up, and everybody is under the real 531 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: opinion that the interest rates are going to get cut. 532 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good. 533 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: To be with you. 534 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: I would certainly like to see what happens. I don't 535 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: think the inflation shows that number. I don't think that 536 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: it shows that we can. 537 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: Cut rates. 538 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: I get that I'm gonna get yelled at, but inflation 539 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: was up. The numbers came out that came out yesterday 540 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: show the consumer price index up two point nine percent 541 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: from a year earlier. Prices up. Why because tariffs? Thank you, 542 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Swatch. Those are the watch people. 543 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: They're massive watch manufacturer. They have launched a special edition 544 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: watch called the what If Tariffs and the watch face 545 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: switches the position of the three and the nine to 546 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: represent the thirty nine percent tax imposed on Swiss imports. 547 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: It's it's very clever. 548 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: So the nine is not on the nine positions in 549 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: the three position, the three is not in the three 550 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: positions in the nine position. And let me tell you 551 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: guys know, I do work with Fleedeman von Reest von 552 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: reest ri E s t E von Reeste dot com. 553 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: Use promo code cats get your discount. Thrilled to be 554 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: their brand, ambassad love these watches assembled in the United States. 555 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, I've been working on something. 556 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: And I'm watching how tariffs are affecting this plan that 557 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: I have. They are affecting all things, everything everywhere. And yes, 558 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 2: the average rate on the thirty year fixed is down. 559 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: It's at its lowest level in nearly a year, six 560 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: point three five percent from the six and. 561 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 3: A half, which was already lower. 562 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: And I've been talking about the ten year treasury has 563 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 2: been into the four point zero zero world. It's ticked 564 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: up a little bit today. I don't know if this 565 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: is just temporard is gonna come back down. The thirty 566 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: year is based on the ten year treasury, so that 567 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: might be helpful to homeowners. 568 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: But these numbers. 569 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: Don't say that interest rates are coming unless, as we 570 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: agree with doctor Matt Will, we have to cut things 571 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: off of the balance sheet of the FED. 572 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 3: And an audit of the Fed is not the worst 573 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: idea in the world, now, is it. 574 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.