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Speaker 2: Oh and James Boyd, Mark Dyton right here ninety three

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Speaker 2: five on a seven five the Fan, Rick Carlisle at

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock. We'll get to Miami side of it. That

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Speaker 2: would be the hurricane side of it, Taylor Tannebaum in

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Speaker 2: an hour we'd host on ACC Network. Are we to

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Speaker 2: the point, James?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe January twelfth as a hare early.

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Speaker 2: Are we to the point where Pacers fans wanted that

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Speaker 2: ball to bank in and out last night and maybe

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Speaker 2: one of the Derek White three to go in on

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Speaker 3: Are we there yet?

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Speaker 4: We probably should have been there, But it's a long season,

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Speaker 4: so I don't know if.

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Speaker 3: Long season could mean more wins.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like this might be a little bit of

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Speaker 4: an anomaly having a three game winning streak, but I

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Speaker 4: don't expect to turn to our thirteen game winning streak.

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Speaker 3: That is three and.

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Speaker 2: Row for the first time all season for the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam with that bank in there. One thing I

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Speaker 2: was really impressed by Andrew Nemhard didn't score or didn't

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a flurry.

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Speaker 2: There, and I think now Jarris Walker strung a couple together.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we're kind of waiting for Benedict Matheren

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Speaker 2: to get back in the lineup. You know, Rick said

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Speaker 2: to us last Tuesday, b at least a week So

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Speaker 2: here we are a week out, but that trade deadline

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Speaker 2: inching closer. And I think, no matter how you slice it,

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Speaker 2: since January one, even in some of the losses, I

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Speaker 2: do think the Pacers have played a little bit better here.

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Speaker 2: So Rick gonna join us coming up at eight. One

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Speaker 2: storyline for Monday Night. I don't know how much play

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Speaker 3: James. One thing we've talked a lot about it.

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Speaker 2: It's probably something I've harped maybe too much on, but

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Speaker 2: it's been the staff continuity for Kurtz Signetti. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think Brian Haynes is starting to become a little

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Speaker 2: bit more of a you know, front facing name voice.

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Speaker 2: ESPN singled him out a lot, I thought on the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: He tweets on Friday night, he tweets, and he's very

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Speaker 2: candid frankly over on Twitter. But he actually was not

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Speaker 2: the initial defensive coordinator at James Madison with Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 2: The initial defensive coordinator there was Corey Heatherman. For those

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Speaker 2: that have watched Miami this season, that is the Hurricane

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. Got a great looking beard, Corey Heatherman, and

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Speaker 2: that Miami defense. It's well documented the level of play

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Speaker 2: that they have been at this season. So the first

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Speaker 2: three years at JMU, Heatherman was there under Kurt Signetti,

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Speaker 2: great defenses at James Madison. He left there to go

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Speaker 2: to I think it was a position coach at Rutgers

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Speaker 2: before becoming the defensive coordinator at Minnesota. He's only this

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Speaker 2: is only his first year at Miami and then Bryant

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Speaker 2: Haynes took over for him at James Madison. So again,

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Speaker 2: I guess you can look at it one of two ways,

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Speaker 2: and Kurt Signetti definitely spoke to both of this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Of certainly, Corey knows a little bit of what we

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Speaker 2: want to do offensively, but we also know a little

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Speaker 2: bit of what he wants to do defensively. And of

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Speaker 2: course we're talking what I think it was twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: coaching staffs have evolved, but I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 2: probably not a huge, huge storyline, but that Miami defense

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Speaker 2: man and that d line specifically, they have wrecked some games,

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Speaker 2: and you know, if they are able to for any

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Speaker 2: his impact on this game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He scares me. That dude can play, and he'll play

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Speaker 4: on Sundays for sure. Offensively Malachai Tony game breaking type

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Speaker 4: of player, game breaking type of speed. It blows my mind.

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Speaker 4: He's supposed to be a senior in high school. Could

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Speaker 4: you imagine him in a high school setting?

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Speaker 3: No? Boy?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm like, how many touchdowns is he going to

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Speaker 5: score a game? Eight?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He was seventeen years I think he was seventeen in

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Speaker 4: And it's so impressive because you see the one and

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Speaker 4: dones in basketball, but just the physicality of football, you

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Speaker 2: Like Cooper Flag right, wasn't he early enroly or have

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Speaker 4: Even Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State was pretty young. I

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Speaker 4: want to say he was seventeen when he started his

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Speaker 4: so big, but Malachy Tony's he's not that big from

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Speaker 4: it comes to game days. So he's somebody else that

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Speaker 4: carries me. But even then, Kevin, when I look at

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Speaker 4: the matchup, I feel like Miami has to play darn

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Speaker 4: near perfect to beat Indiana, and it still might not

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Speaker 4: be enough because I believe Indiana is just that much

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Speaker 4: more talented overall and also that much more disciplined overall.

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Speaker 4: If you remember that Oh Miss game, were a couple

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Speaker 2: If that didn't happen with IU, if Miami has the

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Speaker 2: same discipline they had in the Festa Bowl, Indiana's winning

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Speaker 2: by three scores exactly.

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Speaker 3: And one thing to note.

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Speaker 2: They had a targeting one of their starting safeties targeting

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Speaker 2: the first half. So if you are Mike Shanahan, Fernanda

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Speaker 2: assume you try to test them vertically on multiple occasions

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Speaker 2: I saw the stat going around a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 2: This is probably the third year of kind of the

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Speaker 2: And someone threw this out. If you look at the

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Speaker 2: twelve semi final teams that we have had here, and

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Speaker 2: you look at the twelve quarterbacks on those semi final teams,

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Speaker 3: Or out of the transfer portal, Wow, are we done

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Speaker 3: with the homegrown quarterback? Like?

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Speaker 7: Is it over?

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Speaker 2: The five star, four star QB sitting waiting developing?

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Speaker 3: Is that over?

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Speaker 4: It probably is in my opinion with respect to just

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Speaker 4: And I probably shouldn't say easy, because there are some

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Speaker 4: season like Fanana Mendoza is having with Indiana. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: you see the same thing in college basketball. If I

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Speaker 4: And he's twenty two versus being seventeen eighteen. I understand it.

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Speaker 2: So the new method for quarterback is you find team

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Speaker 2: ranked twenty to forty yep in college football, you let

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Speaker 5: The risk you're Richard.

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Speaker 4: I mean, unless you're like Bryce Underwood at Michigan where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you come out.

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Speaker 3: Got a little bit of that another damge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're just the guy. But yeah, that's the

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Speaker 4: reality of it. And I want to say it might

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Speaker 4: very well recognizes that we're going to be a Tweiner

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Speaker 4: program where we're going to get the guy, develop the guy,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to have aspirations of going to be

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Speaker 4: for a national championship or somewhere bigger than us, and

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Speaker 4: that becomes our selling point. Come to us, We'll develop you,

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Speaker 4: to the ius in Miami's of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So last year, you know, of course, in the semi final, round.

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Speaker 2: You had Will Howard and Riley Leonard in the National

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Speaker 3: What was that?

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Speaker 2: Kansas State and Duke I believe their expective transfers there.

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Speaker 2: the lone one. Obviously this year you will have what

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Speaker 2: That story pretty well documented from Farris State, Rick Carlisle

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Speaker 2: coming up at eight o'clock again, we'll get the Miami

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Speaker 2: side of it with Taylor Tannembaum at eight thirty.

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Speaker 3: I guess I'll leave it pretty open ended for you,

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Speaker 3: James anything.

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Speaker 2: If I'd say, you like the thing that jumped out

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Speaker 5: Did Juju and Shimmer comment?

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Speaker 4: The owner had to ask you, are you still confident

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 5: That is pretty sad. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 4: That was never gonna go over well, granted nothing he said,

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Speaker 5: Are you still confident.

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Speaker 2: When he said Juju, I thought he met Juju Brents

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know where he was going with that.

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Speaker 7: I thought Juju Smith Schuster was an option as well.

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Speaker 3: The hell that desire Franklin.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, imagine those guys being Locker neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Only those two I I.

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Speaker 2: I thought the Juju and Shimmer comment was one of

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Speaker 2: the more ridiculous things I've heard in a cold Spress conference.

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Speaker 4: So I was waiting for mart I was waiting for

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Speaker 4: the disco ball to drop out of the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: I am, yeah, I guess Mark, do we have that audio?

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Speaker 2: This was carl Er said Gordon's top question?

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: That's how I was phrased it.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: He said they met before the Houston game several times,

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Speaker 4: and he said they had a couple of hours long meetings.

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Speaker 2: And the top question from Carli Er, say Gordon to

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard was this.

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Speaker 1: The number one question? She asked me?

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Speaker 3: Do you still have your juju or share to do?

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Speaker 3: This is a fair question.

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Speaker 2: Do you still have your juju or shimmer to do this.

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Speaker 2: It took me a while to kind of process that,

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Speaker 2: but I was stunned that. I guess, in Carly's eyes,

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Speaker 2: the most important question to ask a GM with a

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Speaker 2: failing resume now nine years into it is do you

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Speaker 2: still have and can you maybe synonym dot com TheSource

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Speaker 2: dot com that Mark dyked in for juju and shimmer,

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Speaker 2: get some other similar words here for that. But I

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Speaker 2: believe Chris reference, you know again, confidence, belief, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera.

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Speaker 7: Still sparkle.

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Speaker 3: Well, is that what the dot com says?

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Speaker 7: That's what Mark Dyton says?

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Speaker 3: Words Juju was a bad thing that matched that well?

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Speaker 3: Do you still have it? Do you still?

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Speaker 2: And Tomlin's a little unfair because he's still young, that's

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Speaker 2: It was really a question that I just walked away

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Speaker 5: Job for life.

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Speaker 7: Some synonyms by the way, for shimmer, shine, sparkle, glitter,

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Speaker 4: Here's another synonym I've seeing for juju, mojo? Fuck you

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Speaker 2: To me, it's more of a okay, why if we

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Speaker 1: The number one question she asked me, do you still

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Speaker 7: I don't know if that's the top question. Like a

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Speaker 4: Want both of you to go home to your wives

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Speaker 2: We might have might have some commercials on these airways

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on the Richardson front, I don't know if we've

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Speaker 2: I know it's a quarterback, but I don't think you

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Speaker 2: You've already benched on multiple occasions and have shown no

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Speaker 5: Of richards I can't thought about it, honestly.

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Speaker 2: But if you are trying to improve your roster, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's how it's gonna work.

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Speaker 7: He'll make just a little over a million next year

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Speaker 5: I hope I can say that.

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Speaker 7: I don't see that in front of me. But he

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Speaker 2: So you're talking about Richardson making ten times or having

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Speaker 3: Amount of Leonard. You know, if you want to look

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Speaker 4: Mark point, his cap hit is just over a million,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so again times and change. Obviously that is

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Speaker 4: My only thing with this is how confident would a

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Speaker 5: Be I need you, yeah, I need you to be

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Speaker 4: That's one of those ones where you know you have

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't you have to do something.

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Speaker 4: To figure out how well he can see or can't see.

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Speaker 2: Who starts more games in their NFL career or the

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Speaker 5: For Aaron Rodgers.

447
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Speaker 7: Mark I mean long gem I'll say Anthony Richardson just

448
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 7: because boy Rogers is at the tail end. So if

449
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson can get on the field more than Aaron

450
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 7: Rodgerson in twenty twenty six and beyond too. Boy, Yeah,

451
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 7: that's rough.

452
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: Be honest, Mark, were you rooting for a Rogers injury

453
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 3: last night?

454
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 7: No, but I was very happy with the pick six.

455
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 7: I'm happy he got brutalized.

456
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Speaker 3: Should we lie detecting him?

457
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Speaker 7: You can?

458
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 5: I think you can.

459
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 4: I feel like a true hater doesn't want your opponent

460
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: to get injured, that you want them to get embarrassed.

461
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 7: I want him, Mark, I want him to consider retirement.

462
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 7: Be like, Wow, I got my ass kicked last night.

463
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Speaker 7: I don't know if I can do this anymorem seeing

464
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 7: Will Anderson in my nightmares. So no, if he wants

465
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Speaker 7: to do it one more time, that's fine. I want

466
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Speaker 7: him to get absolutely pummeled, though.

467
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Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans and c J.

468
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: Stroud the same cycle as Shane Syke and Anthony Richardson.

469
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Speaker 3: That is their third playoff.

470
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: Win obviously two division titles. There their first playoff win

471
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: in franchise history, Houston, New England. That will be boy,

472
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know about that coming up on Sunday.

473
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 5: Again.

474
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: This is why I love NFLD on that New England.

475
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Speaker 5: Either way, you can talk me into either person.

476
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Speaker 4: I will say this, the Houston Texans will lose if

477
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: c J Strole plays like he did last night.

478
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 3: Well, his balls, the ball security was horrific.

479
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: Look what are you doing?

480
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Speaker 2: He did have a few big time throws though, he did,

481
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 2: but that's what I'm saying. There was one right after

482
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Speaker 2: the muff fumble or the errant snap where then he

483
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Speaker 2: found Kirk down the sideline there what a pickup. I'll

484
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: tell you what again, I said it earlier. I forgot

485
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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk was in the NFL.

486
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Speaker 5: The that was the last night.

487
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Speaker 2: The other guy that I forgot was playing in the

488
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Speaker 2: league this weekend was Brandon Cooks.

489
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Speaker 4: Yes, he made every big catch in that game. They

490
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: were talking about he still Astredlmose Tires. I'm like, boy

491
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: does he He's still a burner.

492
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Speaker 3: Gosh, I mean these are a couple of whiteouts.

493
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Speaker 4: I'm like, but yeah, Christian Kirk turning back the clock here,

494
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: he finished with I believe one hundred and forty four

495
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Speaker 4: yards last night, franchise record in the playoffs for Houston.

496
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Speaker 5: And that was after Nico Collins went down.

497
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Speaker 4: So you're getting more of the attention from the defense

498
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: and you're still going out there putting up some big

499
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: time numbers and so a lot of factors to consider

500
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Speaker 4: for that matchup. But I will say the Nico Collins absence,

501
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: most likely due to him getting concussed last night, is

502
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Speaker 4: a big one for Houston try to overcome.

503
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Speaker 2: So I will say, before we get to Rick Carlisle

504
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Speaker 2: here in a few Ben Johnson is quickly becoming a

505
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Speaker 2: coach I love Mark.

506
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Speaker 3: Do you have this audio from yesterday? Yep? So my

507
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Speaker 3: goat of the weekend was Ben Johnson's handshake with Matt Lafleur.

508
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Speaker 3: Is he coming back?

509
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Speaker 2: By the way, did we get the report yesterday?

510
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Speaker 8: Don't know.

511
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Speaker 3: I thought I saw Schefter say something along those lines.

512
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Speaker 2: This was Ben Johnson yesterday, Marcus the question included on this,

513
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Speaker 2: I think the question kind of sets it up. Okay,

514
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: this is Ben Johnson yesterday. Further question about you know

515
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Speaker 2: Green Bay, the rivalry, et cetera.

516
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Speaker 9: Between you and before you know, the two wins, things,

517
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 9: the handshakes beyond you know, getting this important playoff? When

518
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 9: why is this important to you or is there something

519
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Speaker 9: personal beyond that?

520
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: This is a rivalry and city of Chicago green Bay.

521
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Speaker 3: It needs to be a rivalry.

522
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Speaker 8: Me like me, like.

523
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Glorious that the postgame locker room correct right if right?

524
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Speaker 7: If the team prayer too, Yeah, dropping the F bomb.

525
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Speaker 2: Hey father, exit stage left. I got a few things

526
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Speaker 2: to say by the Green Bay Packers. This is healthy, Like,

527
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Speaker 2: I don't want to turn this into like the NBA

528
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: bro culture everybody hugs after the game debate.

529
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: But I.

530
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: Sports hate is great and it's healthy and.

531
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Speaker 2: It's I would argue it's necessary. I'd argue it's really fun.

532
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: And more than anything, I appreciate his honesty. Like can

533
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Speaker 2: you imagine Shane Steichen saying something along those lines about

534
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Speaker 2: Damiko Ryans or Liam Cohen.

535
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Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say, Kevin, he has to beat

536
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 5: him a few more times.

537
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Speaker 3: I yes, I.

538
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 5: Was about to say, he don't get up there and

539
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 5: talk trash to him. He's doing ten against them.

540
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: To your point, be like bury oed, I'm trying to

541
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Speaker 3: talk trash.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah, urt right now, But no, Shane Styching would never

543
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 4: And again it I guess it doesn't really matter in

544
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things, because I guarantee you, if

545
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: the Bears had not had this much success this season,

546
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 4: people will be saying what Ben Johnson is doing is corny.

547
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: But I will say this, he is himself through and through,

548
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: and the fact that he said I talked to the

549
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Speaker 4: owner about this.

550
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Speaker 5: And we were on the same page.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, Mark, I love great. I love

552
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Speaker 3: your coach.

553
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Speaker 7: I love him too. He's awesome.

554
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell he was doing going

555
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: for the fourth down early in that game from like

556
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: the thirty yard line, but.

557
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Speaker 3: I like him.

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00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 5: He coaches football like he's playing Madden.

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00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

560
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 5: I love it.

561
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely got that element too. It's speaking of coaches.

562
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle, he joins us on the other side.

563
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: They seized a fan morning show with kb hab and Jeff.

564
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 6: Listen, guys, listen, when we first got here a coupley

565
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: five years ago, coach sing, we celebrate every win, but

566
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Speaker 6: tonight's no regular win. Eleven coaches in the NBA, I've

567
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Speaker 6: reached a thousand career wins. Never tonight we're celebrating you.

568
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Speaker 6: We're not watching that playing.

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Speaker 3: Did you want to keep coming?

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Speaker 1: Coach?

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Speaker 9: Congratulations man, one thousand wins.

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00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: Congratulations Rick on your one thousand twins. Can't wait to

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00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: see the next thousand.

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Speaker 7: Good luck this year, Coach Richard Kristen Carlisle.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say congratulations on a thousand wins, Hirigon.

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 8: This is Luca and I just want to congratulate you

577
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 8: one thousand wins.

578
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Speaker 2: Some pretty iconic voices there, and it's now win one

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Speaker 2: thousand and two, three in a row for the Indiana

580
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Pacers as they take care of the Boston Celtics last night.

581
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: A little bit of a throwback score ninety eight ninety

582
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Speaker 2: six inside a game, Bridgefield House. It is a Tuesday,

583
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Speaker 2: it is eight o'clock. We headed the payloss lickers hotline

584
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Speaker 2: right now. And he is the head coach of the

585
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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers.

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00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: He is Rick Carlisle coach. Good morning to you. How

587
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: are you?

588
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm okay, you guys must be awfully bored.

589
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: If you need Mark to send that to you, we

590
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: can certainly send that your way. I'm sure would love

591
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: to play that over and over again. In all seriousness.

592
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: Congrats on getting to the thousand total. We might double

593
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: back on that at some point here, but let's go

594
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: back to last night. And you know you've made the

595
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: analogy before late game situations kind of like the red

596
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: zone of the NFL. What did you like about how

597
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: your team executed, not just the siakam floater, but in

598
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: the final few minutes.

599
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: We scored and they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Pretty simple, easy enough.

601
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: The final play was that simply just let's get in

602
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: the middle of the floor to our best player and

603
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: let him operate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two best players really just involved both Andrew and

605
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Speaker 1: and Pascal and look wherever the best opportunity presents itself,

606
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Speaker 1: attack it.

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Speaker 4: Rick, What do you think Jay Huff has giving you

608
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: all from a versatility standpoint, the ability to obviously finishing

609
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: unique ways around the rim, but also knock it down

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Speaker 4: from range.

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Speaker 1: Well, those two things, you know, the rim protections the

612
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: other thing that is really evident. And I don't I

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00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: assume he's still leading the league in blocks or he's

614
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: certainly up there somewhere. But look, he's he's he's growing

615
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: through this whole thing. New team, new situation, new system. Uh,

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00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, new new scenery for him and the family.

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00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, just a lot of things to adjust to,

618
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Speaker 1: and you know, a different style of defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: a myriad of things, and sometimes things take time. But

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Speaker 1: he's gotten more and more momentum in certainly recent weeks.

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Speaker 1: And uh, he played big in the Charlotte game five

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Speaker 1: days ago and last night, you know he was. He

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Speaker 1: was terrific.

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Speaker 3: Again, Rick, I don't.

625
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Speaker 4: Know how much you all rank the level of dogs

626
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: on your team, DAWG, but Quentin Jackson seems like he's

627
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Speaker 4: in that category. What is it about that guy that

628
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: allows him to just be fearless in big moments, regardless

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Speaker 4: of if he's even been in those moments before.

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Speaker 1: Well, I used the word fearless on occasion. I wouldn't

631
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Speaker 1: say he's all the time, but you know, we want

632
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: our guys to be fearless within their skill set, within

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Speaker 1: their strengths. And you know, Quinn's the guy, you know

634
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: from from his background and and everything else who went

635
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: through a lot, had to uh had to go through

636
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things, a lot of challenges in his life,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's he's a survivor and he'll tell

638
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: you that. And so you know, when when we use

639
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: the word fearless, you know with him, it doesn't take much.

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: And I thought, I thought his contribution last night, UH

641
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: was was very very important. You know. The I think

642
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: he went in the beginning of the fourth quarter. I

643
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Speaker 1: haven't watched the game that I'm about to watch it,

644
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: but he went in there and and things were things

645
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: were you know, you know, they were fragile and they

646
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: were tipping, and he was decisive, he was aggressive. He

647
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: made a difficult, you know, little step back two point shot,

648
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: then he hit a big three, and then he was

649
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: on the floor a couple of times making plays and

650
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: deflecting balls, and it just you know, his aggression kept

651
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: the uh, kept the crowd into it, and it kept

652
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: our team aggressive and confident as well.

653
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Speaker 2: That's Rick Carlisle Pacers three in a row and coming

654
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: up tomorrow night they got the Raptors Pelicans Friday as

655
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: they conclude this four game homestand want to go back

656
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: to Pascal Siaka his All Star candidacy. I think despite

657
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, maybe whatever the wind total is and how

658
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: people individuals can get criticized for that, I think it's

659
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: very deserving. Is that something that you and your history

660
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Speaker 2: have you gone about the way of contacting other coaches

661
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Speaker 2: to try and pitch All Stars?

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Speaker 3: Is that something that even happens?

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Speaker 2: How does that process, you know, work from a behind

664
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Speaker 2: the scenes standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it too much, but

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Speaker 1: the answer is yes, And you know, but it's to me,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not just something that you do on a

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Speaker 1: commonplace place basis. It has to be a special situation

669
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: to really go to bat. To me, this is one

670
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: of those situations. And so you know, I'm trying to

671
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: talk to as many coaches as possible and and really

672
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I believe he's going to get strong consideration. I don't

673
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: know all the numbers in terms of guys that qualify

674
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: and don't qualify. I know there's a minimum number of

675
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: games and things like that. So but he's been great,

676
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, and this is the third game winner and

677
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: he may have he may even have more than three

678
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: game winners. He may have. Well, he had the decisive

679
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: shot in the early game in our first win of

680
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: the year against gold In State to give us the lead,

681
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: and then I think I think Quinton Jackson got the

682
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: got got the shot to put us up five or

683
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: something like that. So this may be his fourth game

684
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: winner out of you know, nine wins or whatever it is,

685
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: and there may even be another one in there. You know,

686
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and analyze it, but he's

687
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: certainly deserving.

688
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, I thought that block he had too there late

689
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: was it was a key key play when it was

690
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: all said and done again, Rick call out with the

691
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: sea on the Payless Lickers hotline. Probably one of the

692
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: wilder stats from last night, seven fouls apiece.

693
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: Did you did you feel.

694
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: That like as the game was moving along Mike Rady

695
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: said on the broadcast, there are no fouls in the

696
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: third quarter. Did you like view it as a I

697
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: don't know, a less physical game or just more of

698
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: a officiating We're kind of going to swallow the whistle

699
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: a little bit tonight.

700
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Good question, I you know, I you know, to the

701
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: emphasis of not fouling is such a big thing with

702
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: every team. I guess I would have to believe that

703
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: every once in a while you get some kind of

704
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: a perfect storm where you know, the game is physical,

705
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: but people are playing on both sides of the ball

706
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: with their feet and their bodies and keeping their hands

707
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: out of it, and so you know, maybe that's maybe

708
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: that's a contributors. Well, I mean I looked up there

709
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: as well, and I saw it, and I saw the

710
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: whole thing and it was just like whoa, you know,

711
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: and fouling has been one of our one of our challenges,

712
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: and so we're doing better there. It shows growth on

713
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: our part. I do think Boston is a team that

714
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: does not file a whole lot. You know, if you

715
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: look at their stats.

716
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: Rick, I know you don't like talking about yourself, but

717
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: a thousand wins is pretty significant in the NBA.

718
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: So here's how I'll spin it.

719
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: Who throughout this whole journey did you think of when

720
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: you crossed that threshold? Who helped you get to where

721
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 4: you are, Whether it was from your playing days, obviously

722
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: early coaching days, but just people along the way that

723
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: helped you get to this milestone.

724
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Well, the number one thing that I thought of was

725
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: our players, and you know, we had been through a

726
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: difficult month and so that was that was the most

727
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: important thing. But my family has been, you know, absolutely supportive,

728
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: Like you know, Donna and Abbey have been just phenomenal

729
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: inspirations for me for many, many years. And and look,

730
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if I go back and think of people

731
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: that have been really, really instrumental, certainly Larry Bird has

732
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: been one. You know, playing with him for three years

733
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: in Boston when he was the best player in the

734
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: world really for all three years was was was an

735
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: illuminating revelation for me, just to see what real greatness

736
00:35:53,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: looked like. And then you know, moving on from there,

737
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, when I was in I was able to

738
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: get my last shot to stay in the NBA with

739
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: with new Jersey nets and Bill Fitch had just taken

740
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: a job, but he only had one assistant, and so

741
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I made the team for a month. And when he

742
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: was when he called me to cut me on the

743
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: on the on the phone, he offered me a coaching

744
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: job in the same uh, during the same conversation, which

745
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: was uh, you know, life changing, absolutely life changing. Sided

746
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: with him for three years. You know, he's in the

747
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And then Chuck Daily came in there

748
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: for two years, and Chuck became a great trusted friend

749
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: as well, great mentor like like Fitch was. And uh,

750
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: you know those guys, those guys taught me so much

751
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: about everything from the x's and o'sa the game, to

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: the building of relationships and then you know, on on

753
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: from there. You know, I was fortunate worked with PJ.

754
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: Carlossimo for three years in Portland. He was the head

755
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: coach back here. Larry Bird takes the head coaching job

756
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: in Indiana, which you know was a shocker to me

757
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: at the time, but it gave me the opportunity to

758
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: really elevate my level of responsibility and and really began

759
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: to start thinking about head coaching and so you know,

760
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: on and on from there. But Indiana has been extremely

761
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: important to me. Uh you know, as I mentioned, my

762
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: first assistant job here kind of got me in the

763
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: conversation for head coaching jobs because you know, we came

764
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: in and and and that team was a team that

765
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: most people thought had run its course, you know, Reggie

766
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: and Mark Jackson, Rick Smith's, the Davis Brothers. You know,

767
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: it had kind of a down year the year before

768
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: and Larry Bird came in and rejuvenated it. And you know,

769
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: I had a lot of responsibility on that staff, and

770
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: and that that got me into some of those convers stations.

771
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: They were asking on the pregame crew last night Coach

772
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: that they had Derek Fisher and Austin Rivers in studio

773
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: and the host it's also on Derek Fisher about you know,

774
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: why do you think Rick Karl has been able to

775
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: reach you know, such a rare number. And he threw

776
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: out two words of consistency and authenticity. I'm curious, do

777
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: you have you know, kind of core coaching principles that

778
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you walked into it with two decades ago,

779
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: and if so, have those evolved.

780
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, those two things are very important, and

781
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you know he mentioned that and you

782
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: mentioned it. You know, Derek Fisher was with us in

783
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Dallas for a relatively short time. It was the year

784
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: after the championship. He came to us early in the year.

785
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't in training camp, and you know, he to me,

786
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: he's a what I would consider a Hall of Fame

787
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: system player. You know, you look at everything he did

788
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: with the Lakers and all that. But ever saying, yesterday,

789
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: there was a group of young corporate presidents that get together.

790
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: It's like ten guys led by Asif Badet, who is

791
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: one of our court side patrons at the Pacers. And

792
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: those guys came came in early and I had him

793
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: in the locker room. I showed him around the locker room.

794
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: They were in my office and one guy asked about

795
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: my leadership style, and you know, he used those two words.

796
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, those are the core things, is being authentic,

797
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: truthful and consistent, and so that's kind of how I've

798
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: built it. You know, relationships with players are interesting because

799
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: everyone is different, and there's a great saying that you know, players,

800
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: you can't treat every player the same, but you can

801
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: give them the same attention, and I think that's a

802
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: very important element as well. So you know, I've tried

803
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: to do those things and been very fortunate with great

804
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: owners and you know, great management team. You know, Kevin

805
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Pritchard's been a you know, it's become a great trusted friend,

806
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: and he's been phenomenal to work with, as as Chad

807
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: and Ted and and so you know, we got we

808
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: got a long way to go here.

809
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: And that's where Carlisle Pass have won three in a

810
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: row here. It'll be the Raptors tomorrow night, Pelicans coming

811
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: up on Friday as they conclude this home stand. I

812
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: realize he's only been in the state for hell less

813
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: than two years, so I don't know if the interaction

814
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: has even occurred. But have you come across Kurt Signetti

815
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: at all in his brief time here in the state.

816
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I haven't, but I'm, you know, like like everyone in Indiana,

817
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm an enormous admirer of of what

818
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: he's doing. And uh, you know, there's there's a guy

819
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: that has a basic, pretty simple plan and I love

820
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: I love his his saying production over potential. I just

821
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, to me that to me that that speaks

822
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: so many volumes, and uh, not only it's it's clear

823
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: that not only is he a great football coach, but

824
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: he's also a great relationship builder, and he's also a

825
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: great businessman. You look at what they're doing in the

826
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: portal and certainly the support that they're getting they must

827
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: be getting for n I l right now and I

828
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: saw where you know, Mark Cuban was was at the

829
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: most recent game, and and you know he's he's obviously

830
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: a huge supporter, and so you know this thing, this

831
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: thing looks like it's you know, being built to last

832
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: a very long time, and it's it's pretty awesome to see.

833
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: But I would I look forward to meeting him some

834
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: sometime and I can't say enough things about what he's done.

835
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: But they got one more game.

836
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: And then to that last last one.

837
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 2: Did you happen to catch the opposing head coach press

838
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 2: conference from last night, Joe Missoula by any chance?

839
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh, why you.

840
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Brought up the screen Pascal Siakam set there at the

841
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: end of the game there and maybe the legality of

842
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: that screen.

843
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: He'll get over it.

844
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: Facers ninety eight, Celtics ninety six last night, Coach, congrats

845
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: on a thousand. We'll have Mark send that your way

846
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: if you or Donna want to have that for the

847
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: archives there. In all seriousness, hell of an accomplishment. Congrats

848
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: on the win last night, and we'll talk to you

849
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: next Tuesday.

850
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to say one thing. If I had a

851
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: dollar for every call I disagreed with this year, I

852
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: don't know if i'd still be doing this.

853
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 7: Enough.

854
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: You might have the Cuban money right, Thank you, coach.

855
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: I'm just checking here.

856
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: The line's climbing eight and a half now for Indiana

857
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: as they are favored over the Miami Hurricanes on Monday.

858
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Someone that will certainly be there and has been front

859
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: and center for this hurricane run.

860
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: She does outstanding.

861
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: Work over at the Worldwide Leader and the lead host

862
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: for ACC Network, the Great Taylor Tannebaum joins us.

863
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: Taylor, good morning to you. How are you?

864
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 8: I'm great? Good morning friends.

865
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 11: It's great to talk to you, and I'm so.

866
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 8: Excited personally for this game coming up, but also just

867
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 8: for the matchup itself. But I'm happy to be with

868
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 8: you guys this morning.

869
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: Imagine three years ago, one of us saying to you,

870
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: not only are you going to have a job at

871
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: ESPN covering a team in the National Championship, but the

872
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: opponent is going to be the Indiana football program.

873
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 8: I would have lapped in your face, KB, I would

874
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 8: have lapped in your face.

875
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: You covered Indiana. I'm gonna guess sparingly, right. I mean,

876
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: like not to get in the weeds of like sports

877
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: media coverage, but I'm gonna guess like it wasn't maybe

878
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: top of mind make the truck down a Bloomington on

879
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: a weekly basis back in your day at WTHR.

880
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 8: I'm not so sure it even cracked like the top

881
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 8: ten of things that were priority to cover in terms

882
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 8: of sports in Indianapolis. And that's not necessarily a slight

883
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 8: on Indiana football. It's just like what the reality was.

884
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 8: And look, when I was there, it was during you know,

885
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 8: Tom Allen trying to turn this thing around, so there

886
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 8: was some buzz, but you know, COVID happened, and then it.

887
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 11: Was just kind of like, well, it's business as usual

888
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 11: when it came to Indiana football. And you know, I

889
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 11: went to a couple of Oaken Bucket games and you

890
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 11: were lucky if half the stadium was full in Bloomington.

891
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 11: So to see the transformation, I just I think it

892
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 11: tells you in this day and age in college football,

893
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 11: the word investment is everything, and they invested in football

894
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 11: and you have results on the football field. And investing

895
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 11: also means not just monetarily, but you know, finding the

896
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 11: right person to lead your football program, and they certainly

897
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 11: found that in Kurt Signetti.

898
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: Taylor, I must say, was pretty not shocking to me,

899
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: but just funny to me to see you standing on

900
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 4: the sidelines of the Miami Ohio state game and I'm

901
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: looking at you next to Ray Lewis, I'm like, what

902
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: is this like? That's such a crazy rise. And obviously

903
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: I'm very had for all your success. But getting back

904
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 4: to the Miami team, I know the talk here is

905
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: all about IU and the remarkable run they've been on,

906
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: but can you kind of give us the I guess

907
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: quick soliloquy on the remarkable run that Miami's been on,

908
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: because it has not always been great vibes for that team,

909
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: especially earlier in the year.

910
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 8: No, for sure. Well, first of all, congratulations to you,

911
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 8: my friend, on your award, well deserved. And yeah, when

912
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 8: you're on the Miami sideline. Trust me, I didn't ever

913
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 8: have doing television with ray Lewis on my bingo card.

914
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 8: Kind of like if you would have asked me three

915
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 8: years ago if this were the championship matchup, I would

916
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 8: have told you you were crazy. But as for Miami,

917
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 8: look it's in start contrast to Indiana historically in terms

918
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 8: of football, because like this right now is where Miami

919
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 8: expects to be every single year. And it's funny because

920
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 8: when they joined the ACC in two thousand and four,

921
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 8: the expectation was this to be competing for conference championships,

922
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 8: to be competing for national championships. But that's when they

923
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 8: started to go the other direction after winning five national championships,

924
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 8: and then they lost in that two thousand and three

925
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 8: Fiesta Bowl to Ohio State and it kind of just

926
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 8: sent them on this this decline. So for years and

927
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 8: years and years, Miami's just been riding on the brand

928
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 8: and hoping the brand can get back to being what

929
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 8: it is. And four years ago they made the decision

930
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 8: down there in Coral Gables to again hire a head

931
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 8: coach that they felt like best suited the program, and

932
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 8: that was their love and Mario christophal who left an

933
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 8: Oregon team that was coming off of a ten win season,

934
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 8: you know, and and it was a slow burn. It

935
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 8: wasn't necessarily instant success like when five and seven in

936
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 8: his first season and then the next year there was

937
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 8: a winning record. But there were some mistakes made, I e.

938
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 8: The Georgia Tech game most specifically, which I sidelined where

939
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 8: they didn't just take a knee late and turn the

940
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 8: ball over, and Georgia Tech wins, and you know, you're

941
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 8: questioning if this is going in the right direction. But

942
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 8: Patients was key when it came to Miami. And the

943
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 8: biggest thing about Miami is, to me, the balance of

944
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 8: their roster is, you know, just north of fifty percent

945
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 8: of their starts this season come from transfers, and they're

946
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 8: important guys, guys like Carson Beck and CJ. Daniels Junior

947
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 8: and Keelan Merry, and they're on the offensive side, their receivers,

948
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 8: and then you know defensively like Keyante Scott and Jacobe Thomas,

949
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 8: like their secondary those have been key components. But a

950
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 8: lot of this is homegrown talent, right and guys that

951
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 8: they recruited from one of the hottest beds in all

952
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 8: the country in South Florida and Miami and who leaved

953
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 8: in Mario Christovaal's vision back four years ago and said,

954
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 8: you know, I want to be a part of something

955
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 8: bigger than myself, kind of like these IU players are

956
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 8: and did with sig And here they are in the

957
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 8: National Championship. So it's been a great run to get

958
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 8: back to here, like twenty three years since they've played

959
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 8: in the National Championship and lost that one to Ohio State,

960
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 8: and this year started in November, people really counted them out,

961
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 8: started as national Championship contenders. A bit of a lull,

962
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 8: but that's what the CFP is all about. It gives

963
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 8: people chances even if you lose a few.

964
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: So looking at this matchup, it's definitely fair to say

965
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: that Miami is the underdog, not historically but in this game.

966
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 4: So how much do you think they are embracing that

967
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: part of it and trying to obviously capture a national

968
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: championship and spoil sort of the ride that we've been

969
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: on here in Indianapolis.

970
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 8: Well, I want to preface this by saying I am

971
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 8: a Flora State grad. So covering Miami is definitely and

972
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 8: being so invested is definitely different. But I'm also from

973
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 8: South Florida, so it's cool to see, you know, people

974
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 8: I care about be so hyped up about this. I

975
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 8: think they embraced the underdog role. I kind of hated

976
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 8: the fact that they were favored against Ole Myth because

977
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 8: they were underdogs when they went to A and M.

978
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 8: They were underdogs, certainly against the defending national champ in

979
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 8: Ohio State. I personally think, what KB, I think you said,

980
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 8: eight is now the line coming in.

981
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's I think that's crazy, just based

982
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 10: on what we have seen in the last seven games

983
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 10: for that to be, you know, the difference.

984
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 8: But that's just me. I think they're okay being counted out.

985
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 8: They have been all season. They were after they lost

986
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 8: November first to FMU. They were counted out against A

987
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 8: and M, counting out against Ohio, even against Ole Myths.

988
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 8: You know, if you're a college football fan and you'll

989
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 8: love a good story like Ole miss great story, losing

990
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 8: their head coach Indiana, incredible story, greatest turnaround ever in

991
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 8: college football history. Like you know, no one, no one's

992
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 8: rooting for little old Miami if you're you're not a

993
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 8: Miami fan, really because You know, people like to hate

994
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 8: on the U, so I think they're okay with it.

995
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 8: I think they're cool being in this position. I personally

996
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 8: think eight and a half is crazy work. But but

997
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 8: then again, spot the ball and see what happens. There's

998
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 8: a reason Indiana has been so dominant this season.

999
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 5: A little old Miami boy have changed. They got Scott

1000
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 5: Scarvers in Bloomington.

1001
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: Now seven fifty.

1002
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: On Monday night, it will be Miami in Indiana for

1003
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: a national championship.

1004
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: That's a voice of Taylor.

1005
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: Tannebomb, of course, used to work here in indian is

1006
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: a megastar over at ESPN and is the lead voice

1007
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: on the ACC Network.

1008
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Taylor, I've got buddy Mine that.

1009
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: I used to work with, works now in the Miami

1010
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: Athletic Department US text me over the weekend. He's like, hey,

1011
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: let's look at the Ohio State games. You know, we

1012
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: played better against Ohio State than Indiana did. If you

1013
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: really want to, you know, splice things out. You brought

1014
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: up those receivers Marion Daniels obviously, Malachai Tony and then

1015
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: those defensive ends you know from mckeim Mesidor and Ruben Bain,

1016
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: which do you think, you know, maybe should fear Indiana

1017
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: more what that defensive line has done, or maybe just

1018
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: the unique skill sets of those wide outs, particularly Tony

1019
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: who just amazing what he's doing as a whatever eighteen

1020
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: year old.

1021
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 8: For me, certainly in that respect, the matchup lies with

1022
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 8: Fernandom and those and that really incredible IU offensive line

1023
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 8: who should have won the Joe Moore Award. Eric mclan

1024
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 8: my analyst Sonny Cgiettle talks about it all the time.

1025
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 8: He's like, it's ridiculous that they didn't win that award.

1026
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 8: Looks Miami is a great old line too, but Indiana's

1027
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 8: is really really good. It's Fernando Mendoza against the pressure

1028
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 8: in that front of the Miami Hurricanes, and the numbers

1029
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 8: maybe don't speak in the last game because it's what

1030
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 8: have you done for me lately? Against Ole Miss? With

1031
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 8: what that d line for Miami can do, because Trinidad

1032
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 8: Chambliss is that special. They only racked up one sack,

1033
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 8: but Ruben Bain and Miami native and a key messagor

1034
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 8: Will Hunt and a mod Moten in the middle. He

1035
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 8: kind of anchors that defensive line. He's been banged up

1036
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 8: a little bit apparently he's been a full go at

1037
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 8: practice this week. I dug up some numbers with my

1038
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 8: researcher drew yesterday at ESPN, and in the four games

1039
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 8: in Big Ten play that IU had where they scored

1040
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 8: thirty points or less, that's where Fernando Mendoza was pressured.

1041
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 8: Ghost it was Iowa, it was ten State, it was

1042
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 8: the regular season Oregon game, and it was the Indiana,

1043
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 8: Ohio State game, and the Big Ten Championship and the

1044
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 8: Big Ten Championship. He was pressured just north of fifty

1045
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 8: eight percent of the time, and that's when they scored

1046
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 8: thirty points or less. And Miami brings the most pressure

1047
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 8: of any team that they faced this season Indiana. So

1048
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 8: those are some of the numbers that we kind of,

1049
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 8: you know, worked up yesterday. So that's something I'm watching

1050
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 8: because Franta Mendoza is special, but so is that Miami

1051
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 8: defensive line and those two guys. This means something to them,

1052
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 8: just like it does for a lot of these players.

1053
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna I'm gonna be watching that matchup very

1054
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 8: very closely on Monday night.

1055
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: So the last one I'll have for you, Taylor, and

1056
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: it's not that serious, maybe kind of serious. How aware

1057
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: do you have to be of Michael Irvin on the sidelines,

1058
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 4: because I feel like it can be a great moment

1059
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: but also a dangerous moment depending on his reaction to

1060
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 4: any play.

1061
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, He's all over the place, that's for sure. And

1062
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 8: I was kind of laughing about it. I have a

1063
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 8: show today and it's like, you know, which has the

1064
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 8: better if you were to compete with the lums in

1065
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 8: terms of not just in totality football, but just you

1066
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 8: have Mark Cuban on IU side and you have Michael

1067
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 8: Irvin on the Miami side. And I was like, you know,

1068
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 8: Mark Cuban puts his money where his mouth is and

1069
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 8: that's his support. And he's obviously shows up, you know,

1070
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 8: in person too. But Irv, I don't know what his

1071
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 8: pockets look like when it comes to you, but he

1072
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 8: pays in passion.

1073
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: That man.

1074
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 8: And I'm sure he'll have a belt in hand. We'll

1075
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 8: see if she's able to use it at the end

1076
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 8: of the game. But it's it's really remarkable when you

1077
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 8: look down the Miami sideline at some of these games,

1078
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 8: and you know, edge was very joint. Our alternate broadcast

1079
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 8: last week, Reggie Wayne's been there so I know those

1080
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 8: are guys who are probably getting smacked from the Indiana

1081
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 8: side of things, and yeah, is a different breed. I'll

1082
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 8: say that.

1083
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the inside Michael Irvin celebrations with

1084
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: Taylor Tannebaum.

1085
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 5: It's gonna be great, great television.

1086
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: It's so good Taylor will send you off on this.

1087
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: Certainly the weather is not something you missed by any means.

1088
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: Is there one Indianapolis establishment that maybe you have missed in.

1089
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: Your couple of years away from the nap.

1090
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 8: Well, I miss my people and you guys in the

1091
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 8: family that you create in the media world. I don't

1092
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 8: think people realize how how great it really is in Indiana.

1093
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 8: But the other day I was at home and it

1094
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 8: was kind of gross out and I was like, man,

1095
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 8: I wish I had cluster truck right now.

1096
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 3: Look at that you listen, I was.

1097
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 8: I was like, I'm thinking about that business plan and

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Speaker 8: should I try to implement it because I live in

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Speaker 8: Connecticut now. I moved about a year ago to Connecticut.

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Speaker 8: So I was like, I need some cluster truck like

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Speaker 8: Matt and.

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Speaker 3: She's a case adea and a.

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Speaker 8: Salad like I would love just the schmorgasboard that you

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Speaker 8: can get from Cluster Truck.

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Speaker 3: James Boyd hat Cluster Truck. Hat On, Taylor, you want

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Speaker 3: to be a little more jealous.

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Speaker 2: Every Tuesday and at about thirty minutes, the Great Evan

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Speaker 2: Cheryl will be out front of our building giving us

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Speaker 2: Cluster Truck. We are partners with them. They do great,

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Speaker 2: great work. The food is amazing. So how about that

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Speaker 2: right there, Taylor Tannembaum.

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Speaker 8: Listen that that was an unpaid program, perfect time.

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Speaker 2: How about that big time well Cluster Shruck cut that

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Speaker 2: that'll be on their marketing right here for the year

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six. You're a star. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: making time for us this week. Have a blast. I

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Speaker 2: think this is a really really cool just whatever sports

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Speaker 2: job moment for you.

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Speaker 3: So have a great, great time and we'll certainly be watching.

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Speaker 10: You.

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Speaker 3: Guys are the best.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.