1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: That is such such a perfect line to come into 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: our show of you saying my government would never lie 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: to me, would they? 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Because I don't know if you noticed. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: KS represent the facts. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: You're back, by the way, I am back, Welcome back 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: to this award winning program. 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: Oh thank you. I know you missed me so much. 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Didn't you. 10 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: I was floored you return. 11 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that Indy Spanglish was here. He did 12 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: such a nice job with you, so thank you Jerry 13 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Lopez for filling in. 14 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: It was the. 15 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Sports betting gods. It was minus one seventy. You wouldn't 16 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: even come back. So for those of you who don't 17 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: know about sports betty, that was a heavy favorite. Casey 18 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: would not return. So anybody who laid coinage on you 19 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: coming back, they were doing a little victory dance here today. 20 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: I noticed that the chairs are still really low and 21 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: broken in here, like I need a booster seat. I 22 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: feel like I'm five. 23 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: But you know what, I want to. 24 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: Tell you something that I saw yesterday as I was 25 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: driving back. Of course most people know I went to 26 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: the East coast and I did the cross country haul 27 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: my butt back to town. 28 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Last night. How are the roads great? 29 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: Until you get to Indiana. Boy, how it's like road 30 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: work ahead as soon as you cross the state line 31 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: and it goes the entire way to Indianapolis. 32 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: And you were giving me regular updates on where you were. 33 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I was like, shouldn't you be telling your husband this? Like, 34 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to make sure you made 35 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: it back, Okay, I don't need to know. 36 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: When you're in. 37 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: You know, he was napping and you were more entertaining, 38 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: like keive me company sending you audio texts. But one 39 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: thing I noticed last night is I was driving into town. 40 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: No it wasn't the potholes, No, it wasn't the construction, 41 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: but I did notice those. There was a deer, a 42 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: dead deer. Oh yeah, on the highway in Marion County 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: on seventy We're sixty five shoots off. Sure, we're talking 44 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: about a four lane highway in a city with an 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: exit ramp and a dead deer. You ever hear how 46 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: did that thing get there? 47 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: You ever? You ever hit a deer before? Yeah? 48 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Like a were you traveling at a relatively high rate 49 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: of speed? 50 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: Yes, And it totally trashed the front end of the 51 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: truck and fur was coming up in the vat. But 52 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: As I was driving by that deer, it was in 53 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: the far left lane. I kept thinking to myself, how 54 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: did that deer get up here? And like out it's 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: like crossing major interstate. I saw the fur blowing, and 56 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: as I drove by, I didn't know if it was 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: twitching or if that was the wind blowing from the 58 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: whiz of the cars making the leg move a little. 59 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is this. 60 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: A recent things? 61 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: What's it? 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: He says in Jurassic Park as a gold Bloom says, 63 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, life, life finds away. It's the way that 64 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: deer was dead set on getting up there, and now 65 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: the deer is. 66 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: Just that dude did not find a way. 67 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was laughing because it's just perfect that on 68 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: our intro to our program, there is an audio clip 69 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: of you saying, my government would never lie to me. 70 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 71 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: I know you've been very busy doing all sorts of 72 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: fun things on the East Coast. But we have some 73 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: lawmakers who are now apparently having a little problem with 74 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: the truth based on what they said right here on 75 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: this radio program. Case people, we have rolled the red 76 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: carpet out for that. We have given a platform. 77 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Two. 78 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm talking about that dirty, rotten, deceitful, no 79 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: good liar Craig Haggard, Indiana State Representative. 80 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I heard that yesterday because I did stream you 81 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: and Jerry Lopez. By the way, you can do that 82 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: as well on the internets. 83 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: You're global. 84 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: By the way, I was listening to you guys as 85 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: I was driving, and I recall it was the last 86 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: a week ago today, right, we had him on. We 87 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: were talking about his campaign announcement. But then at the 88 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: end of the conversation I asked him, I said, okay, 89 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: I want to change directions here. What are your thoughts 90 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: on redistrict that's right? And he seemed to say, I 91 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: think it's okay the way it is. 92 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: Yes, he did. He did. 93 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: He talked about how beautiful the map was that Greg 94 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: Stirwald state represented from Avon can Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely right. 95 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: And then so we thought, okay, this guy's made a 96 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: definitive statement. It's one guy with the with the position. 97 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: And then he came out the other day and was like, oh, 98 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta do the redistrict thing. 99 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: It was like Domino's, wasn't it. Well, it's compathetic, I 100 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: meanber one. 101 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: That's really two. 102 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Actally. 103 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: The broader thing is that. 104 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: So Charlie Kirk, who lives in Arizona, who other than 105 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: being born in Illinois, knows nothing about the state of Indiana. 106 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Apparently, I don't know. 107 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: He was at Purdue. 108 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: That's right. 109 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: Certain people bailed on their responsibilities to the state of Indiana. 110 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: Three hours, so he knows everything, right, that's right. 111 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: Expert level, our lawmakers are so afraid of some guy 112 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: who lives in Arizona. Who I mean when you I 113 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: mean we have some genuinely just low iq people that 114 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: that represent us in our government, and they're not capable 115 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: of thinking through things logically as it relates to the media. 116 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: And as someone who has been both an elected person 117 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: and in the media, that little threat that Charlie Kirk made, 118 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I would think of it like this, Okay, so what 119 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: a year from now, because I'm not up for reelection 120 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: for if a state house, it's next year at the earliest. 121 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: But you're gonna spring into action, Charlie Kirk, And if 122 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: all hundred of us just hold the line and they're like, yeah, 123 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: you're ridiculous, they're their child, go away. 124 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: What is he gonna do? 125 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Spend tens of millions of dollars to try to prime one. 126 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: He's got to find candidates. They gotta be good candidates. 127 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: And then what he's gonna put tens of millions of 128 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: dollars necessary to run television ads, mailers, campaign apparatus. 129 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: No, of course not. 130 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna go on to his next thing that he 131 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: deems the most effective way to smooch both of Trump's 132 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: butt cheeks, and a week from now he's gonna forget 133 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: about us. But because these guys don't understand how the 134 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: media works, and they don't understand how people in the 135 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: media works, they all got all scared that he was 136 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: gonna do something. And a guy, a fraud like Haggard 137 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: who instead of just going yeah, that's ridiculous, thanks goodbye, now, 138 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: he's made me mad. Case and Charlie Kirk ain't going 139 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: to be here for the next nine months. 140 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: But I sure am. 141 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: And I don't know about Charlie Kirk's level of OCD 142 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: and neuroticism, but as high on those levels. 143 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: For me doesn't hold a candle to years. 144 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: Well, obviously all of these reps were given the stick 145 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: and or the carrot that's right, fall in line or 146 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: else well, and it comes. 147 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: Back to this thing about we've talked about before, that. 148 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: They need the position. 149 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: We've talked about this numerous times in this program that 150 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: one of the reasons I had to get out of 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: elected office was I could not stand to be around 152 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: these people who their whole lives and you see it 153 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: at a local level, you see at the state level, 154 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: you see at the federal level, where the position itself 155 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: what comes. 156 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: To define them. 157 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Because, let's face it, a lot of these people that 158 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: are in politics for people who got stuffed in lockers 159 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: in high school, they were they were outsiders. 160 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: They were not the. 161 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Cool kids, and politics and the power that comes with 162 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: it has been their pathway to getting invited to things 163 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: or being a part of things that they would never 164 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: be invited to otherwise. The chamber events, the ribbon cuttings, 165 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: the dinners, the. 166 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 167 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: And so somebody like a Craig Haggard, who clearly has 168 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: no set of core conviction whatsoever, when it was politically 169 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: expedient for him to say the maps are good, I'm okay, because, 170 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: let's face it, now that we know what we know 171 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: about him, he thought that's what we wanted to hear 172 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: and he's worried about us because he saw us as 173 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: a pathway because we can't look, Jim Baird would drop him, 174 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: drop kick himself in his own testicular area if Trump 175 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: said told him to do it. Jim Baird is worthless. 176 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: He has no core convictions. He stands for nothing. He 177 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: does whatever the party tells him to. So Haggards as well, 178 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: these guys don't like Baird, well you know we'll sidle 179 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: up to them and this will be great publicity for. 180 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Us news flesh. We don't like any of it. Well, 181 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: we don't like any of you people. 182 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: And just because we will point out what a how 183 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous Barrett is, doesn't mean we're on your team either. Look, 184 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: the last team we will ever be on was Micah 185 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: and that's it, and he ruined it for everybody going far. 186 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: We will never ever, ever, never, ever, ever ever never 187 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: make that mistake again, because you can't trust anybody. 188 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: And Haggard proved it. 189 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't even campaigning for a week before he proved 190 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: himself a habitual liar. 191 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: Look, if you're lying on something major a week. 192 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: In, you got a serious issue, like you need to 193 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: check yourself into a facility somewhere to deal with this. 194 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: The problem Haggard has is because everything with a guy 195 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: like that is politically motivated. He made a politically calculated 196 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: risk of well, I don't want to piss Charlie Kirk off. Okay, buddy, 197 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: you've pissed Rob Kendall off. So now you're gonna find 198 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: out in because because Charlie Kirk was going to forget 199 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: your name by the end of August, but I'm going 200 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: to remember in September and October and November and December 201 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and January and February and March and April and May 202 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: all the way until primary day. 203 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Buddy. 204 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. The big difference is Charlie Kirk is in it 205 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: for views and likes and clicks, right, Rob Kendall is 206 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: in it for better governance of Indiana. And speaking of that, 207 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: here's my question. Yes, with the redistricting, Okay, we want 208 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: to stay in power. That's the mantra. Democrats do it. 209 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: We have to do it. Let's make it an even 210 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: playing field, right, Okay, if we do redistrict and spend 211 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: tax paramney calling a special session, which we couldn't do 212 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: for property taxes. But anyway, that's right. If we do 213 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: end up redistricting. How does that help me? Is that 214 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: going to lower my property taxes? Is it going to 215 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: lower the price of groceries? Is it going to remove 216 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: income tax? Is it going to lower the gas tax? 217 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: We have to have Republicans in power, rob, But why 218 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: what are they doing for me? 219 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great question. 220 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, this is the thing we've bondered, right, I mean, 221 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: this is and this is the thing I keep asking. 222 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who I used to believe 223 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: until very recently were thoughtful, independent, mind they were conservative, 224 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: but they saw through the BS And this is the 225 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: question I keep asking them. You're willing to twist yourself 226 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: into this mental pretzel that you have to do in 227 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: order to be okay with manipulating the election, which is 228 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: what they're doing for What what have the Republicans done 229 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: for you at a local, state, or federal level that 230 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: you're okay with just giving away all of your previously 231 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: espoused convictions. 232 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: When what is this one or two seats going to 233 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: do for your life? 234 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? And even if they say, well, you know everything's 235 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: going to be better, okay, until you what go back 236 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: on your word? 237 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, let's take a break. 238 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: Todd Young has spoken, and you can always count on 239 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: the Duke of Spendingberg when the going gets tough to 240 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: say to not saying. 241 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: They never give you a coherence so much. 242 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll discuss what he had to say coming 243 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: up from ninety three WIBC. 244 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: I have to we have to get to spending Bird's 245 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: ridiculous non statement. But before we do that, can I 246 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: read you this tweet somebody sent to me. Sure, I 247 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it's real or not. I want it 248 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: to be real. It's Kennelly Casey Jong Rob, that's Casey, 249 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: somebody on Twitter said at Robin Kendall. By the way, 250 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: at Casey Daniels three one seven, if you'd like to 251 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: play along on the internet with us, Rob, can you 252 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: look into why Noblesville Schools has decided to start charging 253 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: for extra ketchup and ranch packets without letting parents know. 254 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Twenty five cents for extra condiment after the one they 255 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: get with lunch. This is insane. Yeah, so there's a 256 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: limit to the ketchup now. 257 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: I guess, Hey, the price of everything is going out. 258 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: So you only get a ketchup? 259 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 3: Wait? 260 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, like if you have a thing of there's 261 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: no way a ketchup is gonna sustain a whole thing 262 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: to rise. 263 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: I need to know, like, is it a ketchup? 264 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: Per Like if you said I have a burger, okay, 265 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: a ketchup would probably suffice you. But if you got 266 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: a whole thing of fries, there's no way a ketchup 267 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: is going to is going. 268 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to need two or three? Right, so 269 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: we're talking an extra two fifty to five bucks a week. 270 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Can someone clarify if you have a kid that goes 271 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: to noblesle schools and this is accurate, let us know 272 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: what's going on with the ketchup and the ranch because 273 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I will die on the A kid needs more than 274 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: a ketchup for a thing of fries. 275 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: I wonder are they the same price? Did that tweet 276 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: say they're the same price? 277 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: They're charging two? I guess you get one, but I 278 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: don't know do you get one with one of each? 279 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: Or I don't know. 280 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: That's why I need more information. I'm not going to 281 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: go off the handle here until I know. 282 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: Which one would you choose if you only get one? 283 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: Ketchup? 284 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Ranch is weird things that are like the mayonnaise Ranch 285 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: all that stuff like it freaks me out. 286 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I don't do anything with that. 287 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: You've ever seen somebody take a whole piece of pizza 288 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: and dip it in ranch? 289 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: That's disgusting. That's that just sounds file. 290 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: How about ketchup on eggs? 291 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Can I tell you what I do with my pizza? 292 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: Eat it? 293 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: What? 294 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: Well? I pick all the toppings off because I feel 295 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: like I'm getting more that way. Ever to eat the 296 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: thing two meals. 297 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm getting more for my money. 298 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting the same amount of thing for my money, 299 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: but in my mind, because it takes longer to eat 300 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: it that way, I feel like I'm getting more. And 301 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: I've done that since I was a little kid. 302 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: Is that weird? 303 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little weird. 304 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: Is that strange? 305 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: I think that's borderline eating disorder? 306 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Actually, really why I'm eating it, It's like I'm afraid 307 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: to eat it. 308 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: Well, it's like somebody who separates all their food on 309 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: their plate based on color. 310 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: Like, well, when I was a kid, can't touch it? Well, okay, 311 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I do all those things when I was a kid. 312 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: Do you do that? 313 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: Well? 314 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, no, I eat the meat like like I eat 315 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: the I eat in order of I think the value 316 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: of the value, So like the protein first, no last, 317 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: the thing I like the least, I eat first, and 318 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: then I work my way around the plate and I 319 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: eat everything in one sitting. So like let's say I 320 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: had carrots, mashed potatoes, mac and cheese, and chicken. I 321 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: would eat the carrots, the mashed. 322 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: Potatoes, the mac and cheese, and the chicken, because that's 323 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: in the order of the value of what it is, 324 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: like that main thing is that. Then I would also 325 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed this when I was 326 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: a kid. I don't get these anymore, but like if 327 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: you got the little Debbie cakes and there were two 328 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: of them, like the zebra stripe cakes or whatever, one 329 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: was always slightly bigger than the other. Because it's not 330 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: an exact science, I would put them next to each other, 331 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: and then whichever one was smaller I would eat first. 332 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: So it's like I would have something more to look 333 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: forward to, you know, throughout the process of eating the thing. 334 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I just take a little bite of each, 335 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: you know, go round the plate. 336 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: So you you don't eat everything in one one thing 337 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: at a time, one category. You don't say no, yes, 338 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: I do say is that I think maybe really I 339 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: think maybe. 340 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: To eat to eat things and it's like I'm checking 341 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: box order. 342 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that's true. 343 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Todd Young has waited on the redistricting stuff, and 344 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: he said absolutely nothing. This is according to Indiana Capital Chronicles. 345 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly, are you ready for this quote? Yeah, quote, 346 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: Senator Young supports our state legislators and trust their judgment 347 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: on redistricting. 348 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that's the dance of I don't care, 349 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: zum zum zoom. I don't care, zing zing zing. But 350 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: that doesn't affect him. 351 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: That was his entire quote. 352 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, whatever, do what you're gonna do. I'm 353 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: over here doing this. 354 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: No wait, wait, now do you support them? Is the 355 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: right thing to not redistrict? Or is the is the 356 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: right thing to redistrict? Like, I feel like he left 357 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: that quote, left a key part of the equation out 358 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: of the quote. 359 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: I think. I think the scariest part of the entire 360 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: quote is that he says he trusts their judgment. 361 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Yikes. 362 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: Yes, well, have you seen how Spendingberg governs. He probably 363 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: does trust their their their doa. He's probably all in 364 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: on the on the judgment of the Indiana General Assembly. 365 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break, merit is gonna be 366 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: with us next. He's got well, he was through with 367 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: through three of these, and he is not happy with 368 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: the uh, the current UH, the current MO of the 369 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: Indiana General Assembly. He's not happy with the cowardly people 370 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: changing their minds. He's not happy with the whole thing. 371 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, hear from Jim Merrit next on ninety three WIBC the. 372 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Radio. 373 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Insanity is raining at the State House and we need 374 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: what's new? Steady hand walk us through what's going on. 375 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's here. Look who 376 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: it is. He's our old pal thirty years in the 377 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Indiana Senate, the Great Jim Merritt, Hello, Robert. All right, 378 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: So everything is just devolving into chaos, mass chaos as 379 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: it relates to this redistricting. We spent our entire State 380 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: House Happening show recording this morning talking about this. This 381 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: is a horribly ridiculous idea. The public at large, I'm 382 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: not talking about maybe the base of the Republican Party, 383 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: but the public at large is going to be very 384 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: upset about this. And yet the republic picks as of 385 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: right now, seem dead set on charging forward. 386 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: Yes, they do, and this whole redraw, this redistricting idea 387 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: that came out really out of Washington to gather more 388 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: seats for the Republican cause a lot like with Texas, 389 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: but Texas doesn't have a supermajority has grown, it's bubbling up, 390 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: and we see things with California Governor Gavin and we're 391 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: trying to compete over probably one congressional district, one vote. 392 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: So what's fascinating to me? 393 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: And we spent much of our show yesterday on the 394 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: just disgusting dishonesty of someone like a Craig Haggard who 395 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: comes on this show last week and I listen, I 396 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: heard this interview, gave a very measured response about why 397 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: he was against redistricting. Craig Haggard, of course represents parts 398 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: of Morgan County, Johnson County, Hendricks County's running for Congress. Said, Hey, 399 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: Greg Serl drew great map, so a few years ago, 400 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: I think we're good here in Indiana. And then like 401 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: acting like he never said that, and he said it 402 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: in other places. Do it wasn't just to us, other 403 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: publications have printed this is something similar. He just comes 404 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: out and goes, oh, I'm for redistricting, and it's like, 405 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: you disgusting, dishonest, deceitful human being. 406 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: Are you that afraid of Charlie Kirk? That's kind of pathetic. 407 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 4: And this is the same state representative that left a 408 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: budget session when you're supposed to be there from January 409 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: to April and he ends up in Israel. 410 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh yes, and we're gonna be talking a lot about 411 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: that and other stuff going forward, because well, you may 412 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: have spared yourself from the wrath of Charlie Kirk for 413 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: one day, you now have gained the wrath of me 414 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: for nine months. So that little trip to Israel, we're 415 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: gonna be talking all about that, because Diego ain't the 416 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: only person who abandoned his constituents during the legislative session. 417 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: So Craig, get ready for the next nine months. Pal, 418 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to get elected dog catcher 419 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: by the time I get. 420 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: Done with. 421 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: For the fans, the rob fans that probably listened to 422 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: that interview, he said, call me out. 423 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. Gary Hart followed me. Yeah, 424 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: he said a little. Gary Hart references that's very good, Yeah, 425 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: very good. 426 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so you touched on this and say, how's happening. 427 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: If a guy like that is so weak that he 428 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: knows he's not gonna be able to stand pressure, why 429 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: would he have said anything? 430 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean he doesn't have to. It's up 431 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: to the it's up to the governor to call special session. 432 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: It's up to Rod Bray, the President of the Senate, 433 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: and the Speaker House Todd Houston, to make that decision 434 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: of what actually is going to go on. 435 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: And a lot of these people. 436 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: Who put out who put out statements about they were 437 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: against the special session and all that, they really didn't 438 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: need to do that because it wasn't their decision. 439 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had said walk us through because you obviously 440 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: have been through this. You were the number two guy 441 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: in the Senate. What you used to tell lawmakers when 442 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: stuff like this was on the horizon. 443 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 4: Well, what I would say is, I don't know. 444 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: You may be right because nobody knows. Yeah you know, 445 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: And and what what will be? Just what you used 446 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: to but you used to say it what happenings? 447 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: I used to tell them, don't say anything until you 448 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: figure out what we're even doing. 449 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: That's exactly right, and you go forward with a team 450 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: as a team, and what will be? So rich Is 451 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: and for our listeners of we have many Uh, what 452 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: they're going to try to do is they're going to 453 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: try to carve up the first district, which kind of 454 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: hovers around Chicago the northwest part of Indiana. There are 455 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 4: too many Democrat voters, so they're going to try to 456 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: weaken that make it a Republican district. And then maybe 457 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: they'll try the grand slam of trying to weaken Marion County, 458 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: which is a Congressman Carson's district. 459 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: How are they going to do that? Though? 460 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: This is what I can't figure out. You have drawn maps, 461 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: so you understand this maybe better than anybody. 462 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: You do three maps. You were there certain long. 463 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: You do three sets of nineteen ninety one, two thousand 464 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 4: and one, two thousand and eleven, your oldest birth staid 465 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. 466 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you your oldest dirt though. 467 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 468 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: But also you go from the census. 469 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: You have data that is fresh. 470 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: How are they going to This is the one I 471 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: cannot figure out because just take the political side out 472 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: of it. There are many things that legally have to 473 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: be considered when you draw congressional maps, and one of 474 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the ones that this current Supreme Court, or even the 475 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: current Conservative Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled against states on 476 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: is this idea of messing with the Voting Rights Act 477 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: primarily around racial fairness, which means you have to draw districts. 478 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: You cannot draw districts that dilute the voting power of 479 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: minority groups. 480 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: Well, obviously, the. 481 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Minority groups have a massive amount of voting power in 482 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: the seventh Congressional district. And if you just go chopping 483 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: those people up in the various you know, suburban districts, 484 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: how is that going. 485 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: To pass a legal task? 486 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be really difficult and possibly not 487 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: or probably not. And you know when you look at 488 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, of which I wasn't there, but there 489 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: were no lawsuits against that, and there usually are lawsuits 490 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: against these redraws. And what's going to be really rich 491 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: And you really can't take politics out of this, but 492 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: it should. They figured and what they're gonna have to 493 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: do is take pieces of different districts and water finds 494 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 4: his level. But you're gonna have to just think about this. 495 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 4: Craig Haggard is a state representative. He announces what for 496 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: the fourth district, which is Congressman Baird, who is a 497 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: war hero, has one arm, and then all of a 498 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: sudden represented Haggard is redistrict into Jefferson Shreve's district. 499 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, and I think that's why it was against it. 500 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: To being Congressman Jefferson Shrieve. 501 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: By the way, I want to clarify on Baird, right, 502 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: he is indeed a war hero, and God bless him 503 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: that he gave and sacrificed the first country. But I 504 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: say the same thing about a dude like Baird that 505 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: I did John McCain. I don't surrender my right to 506 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: criticize you as an elected person who gets the Lord 507 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: over me, just because you sacrificed your country. I salute 508 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: that sacrifice and thankful for it. But when it comes 509 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: to Jim Baird, just because Craig Haggard is a dishonest, deceitful, dirty, rotten, weak, 510 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: pathetic dude. 511 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: By the way, he's afraid of Charlie Kirk. Jim, the 512 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 2: guy lives in Arizona. 513 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been able to find Haggard's district on 514 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: a map if his life depended on it. And you 515 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: are scared of that guy. Oh, I thought you were 516 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: some big tough military guy thought. 517 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: We were some tough yeah yeah. 518 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: And by the way, thank you Representive Haggard for your 519 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: your service to our country. But there are so many 520 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: political ends to this, and the whole idea. 521 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Is just one thing real quick before I get off 522 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: of this, Jim Baird is rotten as a representative. 523 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: He is. 524 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: He has no independence whatsoever, He has no voice of 525 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: his own. He would drop kick himself in his own 526 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: junk if Trump ordered him to do it. So just 527 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: because we're talking about what a rotten dude Haggard is, 528 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: don't mean Jim Baird gets the free passing either. 529 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jim Well also comment over. 530 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: He's probably hoping that Haggard isn't in this district and 531 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: and uh, what they're going to try to do is 532 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 4: push Haggard or excuse me, Barrett, all the way up 533 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: to near Chicago to grab some of those Democrat votes 534 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 4: from the district. For it's it's it's a gamble. The 535 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: Republican Party is taking here for one Congression district. They're 536 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: not going to get the second one in the way 537 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: of Congressman Carson's because it's so compact, and uh, it's 538 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 4: just gonna be a really interesting September. And I go 539 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 4: back to the fact that that first of all, this 540 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 4: is going to take time, this is going to take money, 541 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: and and the results are no one knows what the 542 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: results are going to be because the data is not 543 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: strong right now, because the data is four years. 544 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Old and real quick. 545 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to read this because I know what we 546 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. But you how many Secretaries of 547 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: State did you work with? 548 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: Two or three? 549 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 550 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean when Connie Lawson was there, I had, well, 551 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: very briefly, Charlie White. There is more than that one there. 552 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean you somebody was there before Raket I mean 553 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying the time you were in the like what 554 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: five to six? 555 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: Yes, Hueah, Okay. 556 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: So you understand how the secretary of State's office is 557 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: supposed to work. I'm gonna read you this quote from 558 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Diego Morales. The trust includes the responsibility to draw congressional 559 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: maps that reflect the will of the voters, maps that 560 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: will send a delegation to Washington. 561 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: Committed to advance. 562 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: And this is all in bold, advancing President Trump's America 563 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: First Agenda. As the Secretary of State, whose whole job 564 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: is to call balls and strikes and administer free and 565 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: fair elections. That is disgustingly gross. And I am even 566 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: someone as dumb as Diego. I am blown away that 567 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: he would put that in print. 568 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: Well, he could have been just silent on it because 569 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: he has no power here. Once again, he is way 570 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: out of his lane here. And also because of being 571 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: the election officer. It would have been really really a 572 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: wise idea just to stay quiet on this. 573 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: And he can't stay quiet on anything. I know, I know, 574 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe a tip potentially foreign trip to be had out 575 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: of this. He's not gonna just sit there silently. Yeah, 576 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: Robert car dealer donation that could be on the line. 577 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: He's not gonna just this is. 578 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: This is going to the Republican Party and may rue 579 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: this day because it's kind of completely upset the apple 580 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 4: card of our party and and I think abduall talking 581 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: on State House happenings. It's gonna light some uh some 582 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 4: fires in the Democrat Party and uh and it may 583 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: wake some people up and and uh it we may 584 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: rue the day that we did this. 585 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully we will live in a world where next 586 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: November this will piss enough people off that bo Bye 587 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: will run for Secretary of State, which is the big rumor, 588 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: and he will be able to defeat Diego Morales. And 589 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: if out of the Republicans greed and self indulgence and 590 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: total disdain for fairness and accuracy in our elections, if 591 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: that puts Diego out of office and a Democrat in 592 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: that position, then maybe they'll teach the Republicans a lesson. 593 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully. 594 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: I think it will take several years, but hopefully they'll 595 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: lose three or four of these donut districts after the 596 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: way they've redrawn them, and hopefully that will be a 597 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: punishment unfortun I think it'll take some time to play out. 598 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 4: Well, and just maybe, just maybe Representative Haggard will have 599 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: to run against Jefferson Trieve in the primary for the 600 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: congressional district instead of. 601 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: Jeffers Greg Haggard will not be able to be elected 602 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: dog catcher by the time I'm done with you, Craig, Yeah, 603 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: you got the reprieve from Charlie Kirk for one day. 604 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: You got nine months of meame big boy, and boy, 605 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: there's some politicians out there that they'll tell you don't 606 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: want any part of that. Jim Merritt find him on 607 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jim Underscore Merit All Score, also the Great 608 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: Merit in the morning podcast Thank You Kettle Casey Show 609 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC. Seeing how much of our money Braun 610 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: has wasted flying on his little helicopter. 611 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: Remember the movie Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and it's like 612 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: nine times nine times and Ferris goes into the system 613 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: and starts changing it. This is eleven times eleven times. 614 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: So the Indiana Capitol Chronicles. God bless those those people. 615 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: You know, the two most important people right now in 616 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: Indiana politics and government are the Indiana Capitol Chronicle and 617 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: our old pals over at the Indian Reporter account. 618 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: They disseminate. 619 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Between those two groups, they disseminate more information than basically 620 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the media combined. 621 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: We might not even have. 622 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: A show without those people, but they've got a big 623 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: expos on so Braun got this was Remember during the session, 624 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: it came out that Braun had spent I think it 625 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: was hundreds of thousands of dollars on like fortifying his 626 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: house down in Jasper. 627 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: And one of the things they. 628 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: Threw out there was a hellapad for his helicopter to 629 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: go fly down to right. 630 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: And then when you mentioned the Hella pad. You were 631 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: correct the quickly, Yes, yes, so, uh yes, I forgot 632 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: about this. So this was in the throes of the 633 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: property tax thing. But I think we said this on 634 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: the air. Josh Kelly, who is Bronze chief of staff, 635 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: got very angry that we read the exact amount. I 636 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: forget what the exact amount was for some reason. I 637 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: think it was like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 638 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: I could be off on that, but something like that. 639 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: There was just this exorbit amount of money they spent 640 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: fortifying Bronze compound down there in Jasper, and we read 641 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: the amount from the story, which he didn't dispute, but 642 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: he was angry at us because the helipad only costs 643 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like five thousand dollars or something. 644 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Was the portion of it that was the actual helpad? 645 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: He was and I was like, but the total that 646 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: you guys spent was accurate, Yes, but only. 647 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: A certain was for the helephts like, what difference does 648 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: it make? He has a taxpayer footed house in Indianapolis. 649 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: The state capital is Indianapolis. 650 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: Why are we spending any money on his house in Jasper? 651 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: He his job is to be here. 652 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: It was one hundred and eighteen thousand. 653 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want it. We don't want it in 654 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: any way estimate. 655 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: But he was very angry at me, not that I 656 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: got the amount wrong, but because only a certain portion 657 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: of it was for the helipad. Anyway, it has now 658 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: come out that between March thirteenth and August first, so April, May, June, July, 659 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: so it's four and a half months. 660 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 2: In four and a half months, Braun went by flight 661 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: to his. 662 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Jumbo home, as he would describe it, down there in Jasper. 663 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: Is it a jumbo home? 664 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: I guessing Braun doesn't live in a sixteen hundred square 665 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: foot ranch like I do. 666 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: Case, what do you want to bet? 667 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've never been invited? 668 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: Bright No, Okay. He might have one of those houses 669 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: that goes straight up in the air like you do. Yeah, 670 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: the just sky just you know. 671 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: I'm guessing he has a lot of land. It's probably 672 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: spread out. 673 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: Planes have to fly around anyway, that in four and 674 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: a half months he flew there eleven times. 675 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: Case, would you like to guess what that costs the taxpayers? 676 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: Let's play high or low? Twenty thousand? 677 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: Okay, keV cases on twenty thousand keb prices right. Rules, 678 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: you go over, you lose. How much do you think 679 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: Bron's eleven flights cost us as taxpayers? 680 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say seventeen thousand. 681 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: Twenty three, eight hundred and eighty dollars. Casey, you are 682 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: the winner on the showcase. 683 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: So hey, am I a winner? 684 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: Well? 685 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: It makes me feel like a winner. 686 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: You're a loser is a taxpayer? 687 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 688 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: But you you were, You were closest to the actual numbers. 689 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: So let me do this here real quick. Public school math, 690 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: remember when they told you wonet always have a calculator 691 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: in your pocket? 692 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: Boy? 693 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: Do I bet my math teachers feel silly now? 694 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Twenty three thousand, eight hundred and eighty dollars divided by 695 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: elevenn that is two one hundred and seventy dollars per flight. Case, 696 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what gas costs to get from Indianapolis 697 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: to Jasper. 698 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: Well, thanks to Governor Braun, it's tax twice right. 699 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: But I bet I bet the trip the cost of 700 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: a trip from Indianapolis to Jasper wasn't two thousand, one 701 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy dollars if he'd have gone by a 702 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: motorized vehicle. 703 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's like his daily uber right, only chopper style. 704 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: See, these are the things, and it's sort of one 705 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: of the things we're going through right now as well. 706 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Bron's laying out his ass. If he's telling you one 707 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a special session on redistricting, 708 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: there's no way they're doing it for one hundred and 709 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. But it's all these little things that 710 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: add up. Right, Hey, it's a couple thousand dollars here, 711 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: it's a one hundreds of thousand dollars over here. And 712 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: Braun was like totally dismissive of the cost of that 713 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: special session, by the way, in his press gaggle. And 714 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: it's like you add all of these things up and 715 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you start getting real money. And on one hand, there's 716 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: no money to fund the budget without tax increases, there's 717 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: no money to fund the roads without the gas tax 718 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: going up, there's no money to help you with property taxes. 719 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: But we always have money. 720 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: For these pockets of something they want. 721 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: Right. So when when you're telling. 722 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Me there's no money to help me for the roads 723 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: without raising the gas tax, I'm going to be very 724 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: critical that you spent twenty three, eight hundred and eighty 725 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: dollars to fly back to your jumbo home there in 726 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: Jasper when you have a perfectly nice mansion here in 727 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: the city of Indianapolis. 728 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: Maybe he just really really loves home cooked meal. Yeah, 729 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: where he can rank his food. 730 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, then drive yourself. 731 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't want to drive on the indian roads. 732 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: And here's what he knows. Here's an idea. 733 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: If you want to go to your second house, nothing 734 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: says one of you like my second house that I 735 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: need a hellapad to get to. Why don't you pay 736 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: to go yourself? 737 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: Right? 738 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: Why don't you pay your Mike Bron was one of 739 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: the richest. What was his net worth? It was like 740 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: there was a there was an actual total on his 741 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: net worth, and I forget what it was, but I 742 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: mean it was a staggering amount of money, you know, 743 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: in the millions upon millions of dollars. 744 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: He was one of the richest members. Can you look 745 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: up Mike Bron's net worth? I am right, now, what's 746 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: it say? 747 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: Let's see here. According to Braun's twenty three financial disclosures, 748 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: his net worth falls within an estimated range of nine 749 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: million to thirty one million dollars. 750 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: There's no way Mike bron is only worth thirty one 751 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: million dollars. There's no way. 752 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: Any Ralier estimates back in twenty eighteen have it between 753 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: thirty five and ninety six million. 754 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what I was going on that I 755 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: would believe that. I would. 756 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he ow's that company, he has that Meyer 757 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Distributing or distribution or whatever it is. Right, he didn't 758 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: sell that. He didn't, I mean, no way anyway. But 759 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: the point is, let's just go on the low end. 760 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: What was it something to ninety six? 761 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: What was the numbers it was? 762 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: Where to go thirty five to ninety se. 763 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: Let's say he's worth thirty five mil. You're worth thirty 764 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: five mill and you can't pay for your own flights 765 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: to go back to your jumbo home, Like we got 766 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: to pay for that. What work was he doing at 767 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: the jumbo home that couldn't have been done in the 768 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: governor's mansion. 769 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: Each flight costs about twelve hundred dollars and the trip 770 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 3: what it takes forty five minutes I. 771 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Don't know, by helipad, helicopter, I mean it's a couple 772 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: hours by car. 773 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, which you would have to do. 774 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: And so would you. 775 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: What are we doing next? What do you want to do? 776 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: We're talking about the IEDC, aren't we. 777 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah. 778 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: There was a big expenise in the Capitol Chronicle about 779 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: the IDC, and it's it's that good. 780 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: It's never good with the IDC. 781 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three w 782 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: I B C M