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Speaker 1: Live from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: These are the times that try men's souls, wrote Thomas

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Speaker 2: Paine in the American Crisis. The summer soldier and the

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Speaker 2: sunshine patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service

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Speaker 2: of their country. But he that stands it now deserves

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Speaker 2: the love and thanks of man and women.

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Speaker 3: Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.

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Speaker 2: Yet we have this consolation with us, that the heart

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Speaker 2: of the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.

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Speaker 3: What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.

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Speaker 2: It is dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven

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Speaker 2: knows how to put a proper price upon its goods,

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Speaker 2: and it would be strange, indeed, if so celestial an

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Speaker 2: articles freedom should not be highly rated. The words ring

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Speaker 2: true today, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to.

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Speaker 3: Be with you.

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Speaker 2: As we already knew we would be engaging the twenty

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Speaker 2: fourth anniversary of September eleventh, and three thousand of our

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Speaker 2: countrymen killed, and the necessity to remember their names, to

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Speaker 2: remember their lives, and to remember that it is us

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Speaker 2: against the Islamist and we must win because what they

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Speaker 2: want is darkness. Twenty four years later, we're still fighting

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Speaker 2: this fight. This fight is forever.

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Speaker 3: And then.

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Speaker 2: Only to realize that about twenty four hours ago, Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk was assassinated. Thirty one years old, married two very

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Speaker 2: small children. I didn't know Charlie. We were not friends,

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Speaker 2: and we weren't enemies. We followed each other on social media.

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Speaker 2: But I met him once. That that I remember. I

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Speaker 2: met him once. I spoke at one turning point event

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Speaker 2: here in my area of Indianapolis. I didn't agree with

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Speaker 2: everything he said. I didn't agree with the style of

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Speaker 2: everything that he did. To deny his influence would be radical.

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Speaker 2: To say that he wasn't assassinated would be to bed.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't just some murder, the killing, the assassination of

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Speaker 2: a political commentator, everybody you listen to on radio, everybody

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Speaker 2: watch on TV, my gosh, your own commentaries on social media?

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Speaker 3: Does it all fall into the same bucket?

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Speaker 2: Must you have thousands on thousands of people who show

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Speaker 2: up on a college campus.

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Speaker 3: In order for you to be a target. I reject that.

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Speaker 3: What we know.

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Speaker 2: Regarding Charlie Kirk is that the FBI has released.

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Speaker 3: A photo a person of interest.

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Speaker 2: Now, yesterday they had in custody a person of interest.

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Speaker 2: That person was released. They now have released two photos

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Speaker 2: of a man in a black T shirt with a

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Speaker 2: wearing black sunglasses, wearing blue jeans, wearing what looks like

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Speaker 2: they are white sneakers. The FBI had already told us

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Speaker 2: that they were able to track this person going into

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Speaker 2: the stairwells, going up.

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Speaker 3: To the roof.

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Speaker 4: We're able to track the movements.

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that, guys, Let's try this again.

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Speaker 5: We were able to track the movements of the shooter

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Speaker 5: starting at eleven fifty two am. This subject arrived on

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Speaker 5: campus shortly away from campus. We had tracked his movements

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Speaker 5: onto the campus through the stairwells up to the roof,

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Speaker 4: After the shooting, we were.

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Speaker 5: Able to track his movements as he moved to the

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Speaker 5: other side of the building, jumped off of the building,

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Speaker 5: Our investigators have worked through those neighborhoods, contacting anybody they

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Speaker 5: can with doorbell cameras, witnesses, and have thoroughly worked through

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Speaker 5: those communities trying to identify any leads. We do have

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Speaker 5: good video footage of this individual. We are not going

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Speaker 5: to release that at this time. We are working through

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Speaker 5: some technologies and some ways.

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Speaker 4: To identify this individual.

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Speaker 5: If we are unsuccessful, we will reach out to you

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Speaker 5: as the media, and we will push that publicly to

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Speaker 5: help us identify them. But we are confident in our

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Speaker 5: in a manner that keeps everyone safe and moves this

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Speaker 2: In addition, they made a statement about the ammunition.

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Speaker 3: We had a statement about.

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Speaker 2: The rifle, that the rifle, that the ammo which was

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Speaker 2: found single bolt action. The ammunition had scrawlings on it,

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Speaker 2: writings on it about anti fascist and about trance. My gosh,

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Speaker 2: you could have almost predicted that one. We don't play

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Speaker 2: will be coming out. Certainly, information can change. I've had

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Speaker 2: some people say to me, my gosh, Charlie Kirk was

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Speaker 2: people say to me this shot from that far away?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that far away? And in ten minutes I could

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and neither does anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Just yet, that's the kind of speculation that keeps people

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Speaker 3: That isn't what we do here.

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Speaker 2: What we do here is recognize that the objective, no

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Speaker 2: matter what, was to take out somebody who was influential

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Speaker 2: and who was connected with twenty one year olds and

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Speaker 2: twenty year olds and nineteen year olds all across the country,

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Speaker 2: somebody who's group, philosophy message connected, whether that be a

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Speaker 2: message of America is good, whether that be a question

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Speaker 2: faith is good, connected in a way that the political

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Speaker 2: left never could. And movement came to the political right,

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Speaker 2: and certainly came to President Trump, although I cannot tell

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Speaker 2: you if it actually came for Republicans, And when I

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Speaker 2: the presidential election, I say it didn't. It came for Trump.

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Speaker 2: I've made this argument before, but one cannot deny how

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Speaker 2: successful Kirk was in making this happen, and one cannot

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Speaker 2: deny that he was assassinated.

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Speaker 3: In full public view to try and get people not

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Speaker 2: In the history of ever, I only ask if that

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Speaker 3: Has it ever worked.

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Speaker 2: That one could make a move to try and silence

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Speaker 2: a group of people and seen success in it. And

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Speaker 2: we on the political right, they've tried to silence us

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Speaker 2: a lot. No, you're not let's talk about hundred Biden's laptop.

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Speaker 2: We won't allow you to post that. No, you can't

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Speaker 3: We won't allow you to talk about that. We have

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Speaker 3: seen this.

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Speaker 2: In this Idols only went to recent history here, we've

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Speaker 2: also seen the political violence before you see. The left

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Speaker 2: will tell you about January sixth without ever discussing who

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Speaker 2: people weren't violent at all. And the people who engaged

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Speaker 2: about due process. Political violence is Steve Scalice almost dying

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Speaker 2: who hopes that Donald Trump dies. Political violence is Butler Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: We've seen this time and again.

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Speaker 2: Political violence is the United Healthcare CEO being gunned down

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Speaker 2: in the streets, and the recognition that anybody on this

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Speaker 2: side of the microphone could very well be next, whether

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Speaker 2: they have a small audience or a large audience, whether

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Speaker 2: they're local, whether they're national, whether they're regional. That your

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Speaker 2: Facebook post about name the subject could just get someone

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Speaker 2: the idea of people speaking freely and engaging thoughts she

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Speaker 2: has to be met with violence. This is what took place.

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Speaker 2: There can be no question that Charlie Kirk was killed

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Speaker 2: for the expressions of beliefs now, But I cannot tell

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Speaker 3: I am not the guy to engage on the faith front.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever shy away from being Jewish, but I

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Speaker 2: don't often discuss the concepts of faith. I have my reasons,

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Speaker 2: and amongst them is the very concept that my own

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Speaker 2: anything else. And I don't believe that my argument rises

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Speaker 2: base it on a philosophical underpinning. Now there'll be people

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Speaker 2: be like, well, how does that philosophical underpinning exist without God?

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Speaker 2: And then we're going to into a conversation about Christopher Hitchins.

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Speaker 2: And that's not where I want to go, because there

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was a believer and said so clearly and

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Speaker 2: with focus and often and repeatedly, and he stated it.

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Speaker 2: This was his life, this is how he valued himself.

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Speaker 2: This was who he was. His day to his night

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Speaker 2: ended with Jesus. That's who he was. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: I never would have told him.

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Speaker 2: It isn't how I engage. Maybe it's why he got

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Speaker 2: It's okay, it's fine, but it connected with people. Didn't

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Speaker 2: that's pretty messed up. So did they try to take

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Speaker 2: don't know. We know that what was found on the

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Speaker 2: ammunition there from the firearm inside the rifle, writing on

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Speaker 3: We know this. So again, I cannot tell you if

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Speaker 2: What I can tell you is he didn't deserve to die.

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Speaker 3: What happened to Charlie Kirk is horrific.

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Speaker 2: What happened to the people at Utah Valley University who

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Speaker 2: had to watch that is horrific. What happened to all

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Speaker 2: of us who had to say, my god, they are

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Speaker 2: shooting at all of us. They didn't just shoot the candidate,

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Speaker 2: they shot at the people who supported him. And yes,

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Speaker 2: some of the left cheered, and some on the left

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Speaker 2: you see, the issue is guns. That's what they said.

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Speaker 3: This is how they acted.

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Speaker 2: They played the part of Alexandria A Cassio Cortes, pretending

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Speaker 2: that she is righteous.

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Speaker 8: People can fingerpoint all they want, look at the record,

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Speaker 8: look at.

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Speaker 9: The actions of what we are doing.

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Speaker 7: I don't think a single person who has dedicated their

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Speaker 9: To preventing gun safety legislation.

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Speaker 7: From getting passed in this House has any right to

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Speaker 7: blame anybody else but themselves for what is happening.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the gun, it was the gunman.

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Speaker 2: And personally exhausted, I am by the ignorance of Representative

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Speaker 2: Alexandria A. Cassio Cortez and her fake tears. You're angry,

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Speaker 2: you're upset. Let us discuss the ideology at play that

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Speaker 2: his faith, and said we can't have that anymore. Lewis

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Speaker 2: fowercon is a despicable human being, an anti semi anti white,

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Speaker 2: anti women. He's an American, He's allowed to speak. That's

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Speaker 2: the difference between us. A gun didn't do this, A

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Speaker 2: so called man did this. Let's find him. Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: dead at the age of thirty one, to the extent

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Speaker 2: you pray, put him in your prayers, him and his family.

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Speaker 2: So the images are out, the images are out for

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Speaker 2: the twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh. And as I

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Speaker 2: That forgive the way I say it, September eleventh should.

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Speaker 10: An effort up there. Yeah, and now remember, oh my god.

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Speaker 11: That looks like a second planet.

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Speaker 10: A plane go in that just exploded.

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Speaker 11: I just saw another plane coming in from the side

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Speaker 2: This happened live. This happened as people watch it. Twenty

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Speaker 2: four years later. We're talking about people who watch Charlie

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Speaker 2: Just in case what it sounded like across the country

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Speaker 12: A high judge over here to of them you over

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Speaker 4: And I'm looking to how you want to know I

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Speaker 8: And I get totally luck and howling the capture I did.

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Speaker 13: Hello Christ the city just north of Chrystal City.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, stop all the parkers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the sounds of what our law

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Speaker 13: For five six eighty six, five times we have I

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Speaker 13: up there, sir, that's Cookerk. It looks like it's rockets.

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Speaker 13: Wake brother, Rocky brack a Ford for five six eighty six,

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Speaker 10: Have you got information on that yet?

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Speaker 14: Honestly, I just you know, I love you.

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Speaker 2: In New York.

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Speaker 12: I want to smoke, and you.

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Speaker 10: Right wanted to die.

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Speaker 2: Neither one of those things is true. And commemoration and

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Speaker 2: remembrance is important, but we cannot allow that. And as

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Speaker 2: working on September eleventh, I first of all, how life

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Speaker 2: now it's not a time to be talking about fighting

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Speaker 3: This from Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Will the death of Charlie Kirk impact the midterm elections?

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Speaker 3: So I think that there is going to be a

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Speaker 2: So yes, I do think it has an impact on

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Speaker 2: So that that's that I'm happy to answer that question. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: So this is a part two. I think that at

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Speaker 3: I think this is all going to be elevated.

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Speaker 2: I think that if you're going, I won't be surprised

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Speaker 2: be concerned, and I'm not going to tell them not

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Speaker 2: to be. We've had these these false flags, these these

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Speaker 2: we thought that somebody was shooting up a.

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Speaker 3: Campus and then it was a false alarm, was a hoax,

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Speaker 3: whatever it is. I think campus security has got to

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Speaker 3: be worried right now as well.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is indeed part of the problem. And when you

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Speaker 2: see what I'm when you go over what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 2: these people have to increase their security. O. This group

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Speaker 2: has increased their security. Oh it's gonna be this, Oh

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be that. Everybody who is now on a

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Speaker 2: level of concern. That is how the terrorist wins. And

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Speaker 2: you say to me, wait, are these people terrorists? Allow me, yes,

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Speaker 2: they are those engaged in murdering, supporting the murder of

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, the assassinated Charlie Kirk, or if Steve Scalice

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Speaker 2: or others, the United Healthcare CEO. That's terrorism. We want

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Speaker 2: to call it domestic terrorism. Feel free knock yourself out,

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Speaker 2: but it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Do someone want to deny that it's terrorism?

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Speaker 2: Eight three three got tony eight three three four six

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Speaker 2: eight eight six six'. Nine let's let's hear the. Argument

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Speaker 2: keep it. Here I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony kats.

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Speaker 2: Today there are other things going on in the, world

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Speaker 2: like the price of chocolate going. Up Tony, Katz Tony kats,

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Speaker 2: Today good to be with. You also A poland Invoking

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Speaker 2: article four As russia is trying to pressure.

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Speaker 2: Here the question is it's going to backfire On russia

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Speaker 2: and where does the response come?

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Speaker 3: From and it comes From.

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Speaker 2: Europe how Does china engage Because india is going to

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Speaker 2: stay out of.

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Speaker 3: It they are.

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Speaker 6: The group.

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Speaker 2: SHEETS i don't know if you've ever heard of sheets

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Speaker 3: A weird name for a convenience.

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Speaker 4: STORE i.

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Speaker 2: Agree the only weirder name is there was a chain In.

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Speaker 2: Iowa it might be in other. Places it was filled

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Speaker 2: with a. K it was called The Coming.

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Speaker 3: GO i, like that's just that is not the everyday.

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Speaker 2: Kids sheets are, Saying, Hey hershey's, chocolate that price is

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Speaker 2: going up twenty six percent increase Because hershey's instituted the

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Speaker 2: price increase Because coco is more, Expensive reese's Kit, Kat

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Speaker 2: payday candy, bars everything that is hershey other items Unaffected cocoa,

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Speaker 2: prices according To, hershey is costing them an additional.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen to twenty million dollars due to. Tariffs so you mean.

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Speaker 2: They're not eating the, tariff they're passing the tariff.

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Speaker 3: Along.

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Speaker 2: Huh somebody get Me secretary. Besonce we must discuss this

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Speaker 2: new development about how companies deal with prices to ensure their.

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Speaker 2: Profits he will be shocked to find this. OUT i

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Speaker 2: don't know, how but he. Will and then There's apple

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Speaker 2: with the iPhone. Seventeen it's going to start at seven

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Speaker 2: hundred ninety nine dollars for two hundred and fifty six

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Speaker 2: gigs of. Storage then there's the iPhone Seventeen, pro which

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Speaker 2: is going to start one thousand ninety, nine not nine

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Speaker 2: is the iPhone, air the iPhone, air that bloody heck

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Speaker 2: is an iPhone? Air is the iPhone so heavy that

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Speaker 2: we can't keep? Up that's? Insane we this is. Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: the thinnest iPhone. Ever they're also doing a foldable.

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Speaker 3: iPhone it.

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Speaker 2: Is it thinner so when you put the case on,

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Speaker 2: it it's actually normal size as opposed to the. iPhone

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Speaker 2: when you put a case on, it it is like

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Speaker 2: you are holding a. Brick if you've got like an

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Speaker 2: auto box or something and your phone is barely fits

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Speaker 2: in your. Pocket eighteen megapixel front. Camera so for all

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Speaker 2: you selfie, FOLK i don't know what is it going

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Speaker 2: for nine and ninety nine, Dollars i'm going to keep my.

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Speaker 2: Phone that's, okay keep it. Here It's Tony katz.

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Speaker 1: Today why From, Ball heartliner and The crossroads Of. America

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Speaker 1: It's Tony katz. Today before we, begin.

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Speaker 16: Let me express the horror and grief so Many americans

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Speaker 16: that the heinous assassination Of Charlie kirker Felt charlie was

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Speaker 16: a giant of his, generation a champion of, liberty and

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Speaker 16: an inspiration to millions and millions of. People our prayers

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00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 16: are with his wonderful, Wife eric and his beautiful.

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00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: Children fantastic people they. Are we miss him.

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Speaker 16: Greatly YET i have no doubt That charlie's voice and

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Speaker 16: the courage he put into the hearts of countless, people

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Speaker 16: especially young, people will live. On i'm pleased to announce

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Speaker 16: THAT i will soon be Awarding charlie kirk posthumously The

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Speaker 16: Presidential medal Of. Freedom the date of the ceremony will be,

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Speaker 16: announced AND i can only guarantee you.

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Speaker 4: One thing that we will have a very big, crowd

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Speaker 4: very very big of, THAT.

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Speaker 17: I have no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt Tony, Katz Tony katz, today good to be with.

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Speaker 2: You find everything At Tony katz dot com That President

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Speaker 2: trump talking about The medal Of freedom.

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Speaker 15: The.

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Speaker 2: ASSASSINATION i guess you. Right in tragedy you learn about.

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Speaker 2: People you also learn how devoid of humanity some people.

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Speaker 2: Are and one of the things that we saw with

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Speaker 2: the assassination Was matthew Dowd.

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Speaker 3: Over AT. Msnbc, now we.

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Speaker 2: Should be clear that the commentary About Matthew dowd goes

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Speaker 2: along a careless. Streak now With Matthew, dawd it was

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Speaker 2: he could care. Less but how about, this just a

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Speaker 2: couple of days ago from the senator From, Connecticut Chris.

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Speaker 18: Murphy we're not going to Convince Donald trump to stand

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Speaker 18: down in his attempts to destroy our democracy.

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Speaker 10: Through de escalatory.

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Speaker 18: Politics like that's just not. Happening so our only, opportunity

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Speaker 18: our only chance to save our, democracy is to fight

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Speaker 18: fire with.

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Speaker 3: Fire right, now let's, stop let's stop for a.

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Speaker 2: Moment we have to save our democracy fighting fire with.

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Speaker 3: Fire violent.

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Speaker 2: Rhetoric we were, told we were told When Donald trump

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Speaker 2: used this kind of recor, rhetoric you gotta fight. This

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Speaker 2: we've gotta fight. This we're gonna fight like. Hell that's

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Speaker 2: what encouraged people to. Violence but When Chuck schumer, said

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Speaker 2: you will reap the Whirlwind Supreme court if you do

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Speaker 2: something about, abortion and you will pay the, price you

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Speaker 2: won't know what hit.

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Speaker 3: You that was just, jibber.

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Speaker 2: Jabber this is just days, Ago Senator Chris.

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Speaker 14: Murphy, now so, yeah DO i bemoan the fact that

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Speaker 14: you know we're now blowing up, norms, yes but literally

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Speaker 14: for two, seconds because if you spend any more than

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Speaker 14: that being sorry for the fact that the old world doesn't,

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Speaker 14: exist then your democracy is. Gone like we're we're in

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Speaker 14: a war right now to save this, country and so

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Speaker 14: you have to be willing to do whatever is necessary

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Speaker 14: in order to save the.

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Speaker 2: Country is that what happened in Orim utah yesterday in

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Speaker 2: the assassination Of Charlie. Kirk Senator, murphy do whatever it,

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Speaker 2: takes not a question winning at the ballot, box not

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Speaker 2: a question of winning. Ideas, NOW i want to be

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Speaker 2: clear THAT i do not Blame Senator murphy for the

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Speaker 2: death Of Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Kirk people are responsible for their own.

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Speaker 2: Actions but if we are going to be a society

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Speaker 2: that notes when rhetoric is being ramped up for a particular,

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Speaker 2: purpose well then Put Senator Chris murphy in the box

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Speaker 2: of people ramping up the. Rhetoric like all of those

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Speaker 2: ON msnbc and all those ON. Cnn trump is a

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Speaker 2: threat to. Democracy it's a threat to. Democracy republicans are

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Speaker 2: a threat to. Democracy women's rights will be, gone your

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Speaker 2: rights will be. Gone we have to do something to save,

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Speaker 2: democracy democracy is on the. Ballot it is, indeed whoever

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Speaker 2: this shooter, was whoever this shooter, was this person of

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Speaker 2: interest where the photos have been, released they're the one.

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Speaker 2: Responsible but are we gonna pretend we don't see What

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Speaker 2: Centator Chris murphy is doing? NOW i have argued that

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Speaker 2: we are at. War before you can go back To

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Speaker 2: Andrew breitbart's the late Great Andrew breitbart talking about, war

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Speaker 2: you could go To Joe biden talking about a fight

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Speaker 2: for the soul of the. COUNTRY i don't disagree that

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Speaker 2: that is the, case that that's what we're, doing that

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Speaker 2: that is exactly where we're. AT i GUESS i just

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Speaker 2: didn't understand on the grounds in which we were, fighting

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Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was fighting to change, minds per suade, people

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Speaker 2: and get. Votes what were you, doing? Leftists what were

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Speaker 2: you advocating? For because you, KNOW i always stated that

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Speaker 2: seemed like you were advocating for a lone. WOLF i

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Speaker 2: didn't say SEEMED i said you were advocating for a lone.

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Speaker 2: Wolf that was very clear that you were looking for

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Speaker 2: somebody to try and Kill Donald. Trump you, tried and you,

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Speaker 2: tried you, tried and you found the guy In butler

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Speaker 2: and oh he, Missed thank.

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Speaker 3: God BUT i think you're.

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Speaker 2: TRYING i don't even think you're playing pretend on. THAT

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Speaker 2: i think you know you are. Trying BUT i always

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Speaker 2: thought we. Were the objective was to win the ballot.

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Speaker 2: BOX i said so on this show on numerous. Occasions

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Speaker 2: seems That Senator murphy is playing a much different game

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Speaker 2: and is desirous of a much different. Result as for

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Speaker 2: the idea of, rhetoric this brings us To Matthew, dowd

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Speaker 2: who decided on MS nbc in quite literally the first

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Speaker 2: hour After Charlie kirk was, shot unknown if he was

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Speaker 2: alive or, dead he decided to engage in some really ugly. Speculation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again emphasize what you just.

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Speaker 7: Emphasized we don't know any the full details of this

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Speaker 7: that we don't know if this was a supporter shooting

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Speaker 7: their gun off in celebration or.

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Speaker 3: So we have no idea about.

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Speaker 2: It Charlie kirk got, shot and you have the audacity

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Speaker 2: to say to an, audience we don't know if this

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Speaker 2: was A Charlie kirk supporter shooting off their firearm in.

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Speaker 3: Celebration when you heard.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 3: Were you just disgusted or did you know that he

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Speaker 3: was just, criminal, INSANE i, mean out of his. Mind

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Speaker 3: and if that wasn't, enough there was.

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Speaker 7: This he's been one of the most, divisive especially divisive

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Speaker 7: younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing

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Speaker 7: this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain.

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Speaker 7: Groups AND i always go back to hateful thoughts lead

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Speaker 7: to hateful, words which then lead to hateful. Actions AND

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Speaker 7: i think that's the environment we're in that people just

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Speaker 7: you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you

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Speaker 7: have and then saying these awful words and not expect

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Speaker 7: awful actions to take. Place and that's the unfortunate environment we're.

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Speaker 2: In IF i were to translate For Matthew dowd OF,

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Speaker 2: msnbc what he said Of Charlie kirk is your skirt's

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Speaker 2: too short and you deserve to be.

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Speaker 3: Raped that's what he.

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Speaker 2: Said it's what he, said and it's what he got fired.

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Speaker 2: For the statement From Rebecca, cutler the president OF, msnbc

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Speaker 2: came out on THE Msnbcpr twitter, handle not the REGULAR msnbc.

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00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: ONE msnbc has five million, FOLLOWERS msnbcpr has about twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand, followers and the statement is during our breaking

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Speaker 2: news coverage of the shooting Of Charlie, Kirk Matthew dowd

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00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: made comments that were inappropriate and. Insensitive, inappropriate, insensitive and.

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Speaker 2: Unacceptable we apologize for his, statements as has He there's

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Speaker 2: no place for violence In, america political or.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise, okay he has now been. Fired they fired, him

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Speaker 3: and that was, absolutely in every.

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Speaker 4: Way the right.

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Speaker 2: Move BUT i think we have to take a moment

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Speaker 2: to go back and.

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Speaker 3: Hear what he, said.

660
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: That What Charlie kirk was discussing was.

661
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 7: Hateful he's been one of the most, divisive especially divisive

662
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing

663
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 7: this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain.

664
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 7: Groups AND i always go back to hateful thoughts lead

665
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 7: to hateful, words which then lead to hateful.

666
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: Actions you understand That Matthew dad considers himself an intellectual

667
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: and breaking down his pseudo intellectual thought, process what he

668
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: said Is Charlie kirk's skirt was too short and he

669
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: deserved it because it was. Hateful now the question is

670
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: to whom it wasn't. Hateful Because i've Heard Charlie kirk,

671
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: speaking there are THINGS i disagreed with. THINGS i thought

672
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: he was wrong on what the angels walk amongst. Us

673
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: i'm a real person who looks at people and say

674
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: they're not always, perfect and it's all right we agree

675
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: on more when we disagree On i'm not down with that.

676
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Thing what did he say that was hateful and deserving of?

677
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: Death what did he say that was so, awful so,

678
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: horrific so, shameful so terrible that he deserved to be

679
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: shot in the neck in front of a crowd of

680
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: thousands so they could watch him tense up and bleed?

681
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: Out who are, You Matthew, dad to decide what is?

682
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Hateful you know what's, Hateful Matthew. Dad men can be,

683
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: women and women can be, men and boys can be

684
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: girls and girls can be.

685
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: Boys that is.

686
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Hateful that is, Vitriolic that is wanting to abuse children

687
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: and leading children down a road.

688
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: Of, abuse chemical.

689
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: Castration it is horrifying anybody could say such evil? Words

690
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: or is that not what you? Meant what were his evil?

691
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: Words men are not, Women women are not. Men Jesus',

692
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: lord tell me what his evil words. Were because thousands

693
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: and thousands and thousands of people showed up on college

694
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: campuses because they agreed with. Him, NOW i will argue

695
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: some also showed up to watch him bat around. Liberals

696
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: oh stop. It of course that was a huge part of.

697
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: It but what did he say that was.

698
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: Hateful he might have been hated for the way he

699
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: was able to dismantle, arguments and he had a rhetorical

700
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: flourish THAT i never even, liked but that's not a

701
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: reason to go about killing. Him, well you, see he

702
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: was saying things people don't.

703
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: Like so what do you?

704
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 7: Expect AND i think that's the environment we're in that

705
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 7: people just you can't stop with these sort of awful

706
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 7: thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and

707
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 7: not expect awful actions to take.

708
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 2: Place so his thoughts were. Awful so he was guilty

709
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: of thought. Crime NOW i ask you he got fired

710
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: because we took notice how many people watching ON msnbc

711
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: shoot there and, said, yup, yup. Yup you can't be.

712
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: Hateful you can't think hateful. THINGS i don't think hateful.

713
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: Things i'm really. Good please don't shoot. Me i'll be.

714
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: Good i'll think whatever it is you want me to.

715
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: THINK i just want to be someone who's. Good my,

716
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: gosh what side do you want to be on once

717
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: you hear that that not only is excusing the murder

718
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: Of Charlie, kirk that's a freaking mouse struggle session right.

719
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: There do you have the right? Thoughts do you share

720
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: the right, thoughts the right? Sentiments you don't want to

721
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: share the wrong thoughts to. You you don't want to

722
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: to think you have wrong thoughts to. You you know

723
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: what happens if you have wrong.

724
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: Thoughts that's what he just.

725
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: Did that's what he just. Said my, GOSH i have

726
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: never been more. THANKFUL i am not a. Progressive that is.

727
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: Cruel and he said, that and you know he left, Thinking,

728
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: MAN i really said something super smart. There i'm the

729
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: smartest guy in the. Room i'm so. Bright THE msnbc

730
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: brass saw, that heard from us and, said we are

731
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: not going to win this. One easier to bring Back

732
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: Jeffrey tubin from a little bit of caught on video

733
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: self pleasure that it is to bring Back Matthew.

734
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: Dowd, oh don't, worry he'll have another.

735
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: Job but what THAT'S i, mean you've seen the social media,

736
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: reactions people Cheering Charlie kirk's. Death but this is where

737
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: the intellectual, went promise you're too. Hateful what Did Matthew

738
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: dawd do accept echo the thoughts of every single college

739
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: professor out, there all, right most college professors out, There

740
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: AND i would answer very. Little AND i would answer

741
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: if you were wondering whether or not more violence was

742
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: going to, come just look at the thought process Of

743
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: Matthew dowd.

744
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: And you have your.

745
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: Answer I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz today dealing

746
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 2: with somebody in the chat. Room were talking About Charlie.

747
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: Kirk there's a video.

748
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: Of him saying that school shootings is what we have

749
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: to deal with in order to protect The Second. Amendment Tony,

750
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: Katz Tony katz. Today there's been a lot of. This, hey,

751
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: Listen Charlie, kirk he's for The Second?

752
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: Amendment what else did what did you?

753
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: Expect what else DID i? EXPECT i expected them not

754
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: to be? Murdered The Second amendment. REMAINS i don't want school.

755
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: SHOOTINGS i want children to be protected from the monsters

756
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: who want to tell them that they could be.

757
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: Girls of they're boys and boys if they could be.

758
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: Girls AND i want them protected from monsters, outside AND

759
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: i want them protected by people who are the good

760
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: guys with. Guns you keep thinking this is A Second amendment.

761
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: Story it's not millions of lawful gun owners and nobody's

762
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: Shot Charlie.

763
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: Kirk this guy Murdered Charlie kirk and it had nothing

764
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: to do with the.

765
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: Gun it's not the. Gun it was representative Of Costio

766
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: cortez who tried to make this, argument and it's wrong

767
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: and we've had. It the gun, stay end of. Discussion

768
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: the gun. Stay this is about. People you're after the

769
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: gun as the, excuse as if somehow that's going to

770
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: cure the issue that people have in engaging in, violence

771
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: when the, issues of course the. Issue they haven't engaging

772
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: in violence thinking they could silence others because they disagree with.

773
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 2: Them it's not The Second. Amendment and to be, clear

774
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: it remains there is not a Leftist you can end.

775
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: It you're not going to grab every. Gun you're not

776
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: going to go door to. Door Eric swawell can't do.

777
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: This you're not tough, enough you're not strong. Enough americans

778
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: won't put up with.

779
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: It so we're done with this. Conversation done kit and.

780
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Booboo THE fbi is now offering one hundred thousand dollars

781
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: for information leading to the arrest Of Charlie kirk's, assassin

782
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: offering a ward of up to one hundred thousand dollars

783
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: for information leading to the identification and arrest of the

784
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: individual or individuals responsible for the murder Of Charlie kirk

785
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: On september, ten twenty twenty, five At Utah Valley university

786
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: in Orm utah one eight hundred CALL fbi is the Tip,

787
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: line and The Carolina panthers firing one of their social

788
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: media guys for putting out on the socials that why

789
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: y'all said your man said it was worth? It and

790
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: it was a slide on the social media post with

791
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: a song By Wu tang Called Protection.

792
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: Neck that's who they.

793
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: Are people who have lost the, arguments people have never

794
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: had the, Argument people who do not engage in a rational.

795
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: Way if you are still talking about The Second amendment

796
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: is the issue, Here.

797
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: You're just.

798
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: Wrong the issue is the person who SAID i can't

799
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: Allow Charlie kirk to, speak and tomorrow it is. You,

800
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: wait tomorrow it might be, me but then the next

801
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: day it's. You it eventually becomes. You in the world

802
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: where they utilize violence to solve the problem and not

803
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: civility to solve issues and engage debate and come to

804
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: consensus where someone wins and someone loses and we all

805
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: move on. Together eventually you, Lose eventually you. Die that's.

806
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: History anybody who doubts that simply has never read a.

807
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: Book that's all there is to. It Senator Jim banks joins. Me,

808
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: Next Senator Jim banks Of, indiana keep it. Here this

809
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: Is Tony kats.

810
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 4: Today so as THE fbi.

811
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: Told, us in law enforcement In utah told us they

812
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: know how the killer Of Charlie kirk got Into, utah

813
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: to the university, There Tony, Katz Tony kas, today good

814
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: to be with, you A Utah Valley. University they were

815
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: able to track this killer through the stairwells up to

816
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: the roof and then off the roof and through neighborhoods

817
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: where the killer discarded the weapon as they describe. It

818
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: at least that may have changed by the time you

819
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: hear this a bolt action. RIFLE i have nothing more

820
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: than That Charlie kirk, assassinated. MURDERED i think the correct

821
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: term is assassinated at the age of thirty. One Senator

822
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Jim banks joins us right, Now senator From, Indiana, republican my,

823
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: senator And, SIR i did not have interactions.

824
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 3: With, charlie not on a bad note of any. Kind

825
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: just we met.

826
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: ONCE i spoken at a turning point event before here In.

827
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: Indiana but we did not have daily. Interactions you had

828
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: more interactions THAN i, did. Sir so let's start with

829
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: where you are less than twenty four hours after the

830
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: assassination Of Charlie kirk Well.

831
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 10: Tony i'm still processing. It obviously a shocking. Moment. YESTERDAY

832
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 10: i Knew charlie pretty. Well he was a he was

833
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 10: a supporter of. Mine we communicated often about big votes

834
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 10: and big issues In. CONGRESS i JUST i. CAN'T i

835
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 10: think about my my, wife my, daughters AND i THEN

836
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 10: i think about his wife and his young kids and

837
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 10: what they're going. THROUGH i, mean there's there's there's nothing

838
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 10: more important than that to, pray pray for his. Family

839
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 10: but the, whole the whole country is processing. This Charlie

840
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 10: kirk was very close To President, trump very very close

841
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 10: to The trump, family and a lot of people are

842
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 10: affective By it's a lot of, young a lot of

843
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 10: young people who have been involved in my, campaigns a

844
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 10: lot of young who's your conservatives and college kids who

845
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 10: have been impacted By Turning point And. CHARLIE i, Mean

846
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 10: i've talked to so many people that listened to him

847
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 10: every single day and that are very impacted by. This

848
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 10: so my heart goes out to his family all who

849
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 10: are impacted by. It charlie was a great. Guy he

850
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 10: was a, warrior but he had a great. STYLE i,

851
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 10: mean he was a happy, warrior a great communicator of our.

852
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 10: Time And i'm going to miss him and miss the

853
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 10: impact that he that he's. Had but we're gonna we're

854
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 10: going to remember, him and we're gonna we're going to

855
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 10: emulate him and do our best to carry on the

856
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 10: important work that he's.

857
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: Done you know the concept of, impact and certainly you

858
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: saw the crowds that would show up when he would

859
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: go to. Universities you, know the whole proved me wrong

860
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: concept and very often people showed up just to see

861
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: whatever leftist of the day was going to get smacked

862
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: around with, fact logic and. Reason but, you as somebody

863
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: who has run for, office you certainly were there As

864
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: President trump running for The White house, again what did

865
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: you see as the?

866
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 3: Impact what is the.

867
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: Tangible you can connect us to regarding, uh the impact

868
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: Of Turning POINT usa And charlie more.

869
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 10: Specifically, YEAH i went back and read some of my

870
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 10: text messages With charlie late last, night and it just

871
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 10: reminded me that he at Times tony he. Was he

872
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 10: would push. ME i mean he would he would make

873
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 10: me think about a big, vote and sometimes sometimes we

874
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 10: would we would disagree on an issue he didn't THINK i.

875
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 10: WAS i was fighting hard. Enough and you know that

876
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 10: that's the that's the personal. Impact he he endorsed me

877
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 10: the very day THAT i got into My senate, race

878
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 10: AND i remember the young people that reacted to, that

879
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 10: who got him involved in my campaign because they followed

880
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 10: him and the important work that he. Did BUT i

881
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 10: think it's it's it's it's bigger than. That that's the

882
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 10: personal part of. It the bigger part of it is

883
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 10: the many young PEOPLE i think, about even family members

884
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 10: of my, own who, aren't who, aren't who, aren't who

885
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 10: weren't politically, active but they were inspired by him to

886
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 10: get active and to get, involved and they would go

887
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 10: they would go to one of These Turning point. Conferences

888
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 10: and this was what was the incredible part About Turning,

889
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 10: point that these massive conferences of speakers That charlie would put,

890
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 10: together and that the young people who would fly to

891
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 10: From indiana To florida to go to a conference and

892
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 10: they came back fired up to do something about, it

893
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 10: fired up and. Inspired and that's What charlie did every single.

894
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 10: Days he he motivated and built a movement of young.

895
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 10: People there's there's there's a reason why Young americans are

896
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 10: turning to our side more than ever before in my

897
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 10: lifetime is because of the important work to turning point

898
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 10: And Charlie kirk has done to inspire that. Generation they're thinking,

899
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 10: Right they're they're becoming, Conservative they're Supporting President trump and

900
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 10: The trump policies because of the important work That charlie.

901
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: Did talking To Senator Jim banks Of, indiana certainly we

902
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: Saw President trump be shot In, Butler. Pennsylvania we see

903
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: this and there is this conversation about political rhetoric and

904
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: ginning people.

905
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: UP i argue that it indeed.

906
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: HAPPENS i have argued that the political left has been

907
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: searching for a lone wolf for a long. Time when

908
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: they Say trump is a threat to, Democracy republican's a

909
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: threat to, democracy a threat to, women a threat to

910
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: this they're gonna take your, Rights they're gonna put you

911
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: on back in, chains those kinds of. Commentaries but in the,

912
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: end it is the individual who is responsible for their own.

913
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 2: Actions should we as a society be looking at those

914
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: people who have been screaming and? Yelling trump is a,

915
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: Threat republicans are a. Threat Charlie kirk is a. Threat

916
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: your local radio host is a. Threat are they responsible for?

917
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: This or is the individual who engages the act responsible for?

918
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 15: This?

919
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 10: YEAH i, mean at the end of the, day it's

920
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 10: the these crazy, people and they're you, Know I've I've

921
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 10: i've seen. It i've seen, It TONY I i've met these.

922
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 10: People these people GET i my, my my family has

923
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 10: had these, threats and it's you, know, you're, you're, you're

924
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 10: you're tackling a, larger a larger issue. HERE i, MEAN

925
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 10: I the only thought THAT i have, though is the,

926
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 10: day the day before, yesterday a video goes viral on

927
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 10: x of a woman brutally murdered on a on a,

928
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 10: bus on a public on a public bus In North.

929
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 10: Carolina and then and then, yesterday my Friend Charlie kirk

930
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 10: assassinated for what he, believed for what he believed in

931
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 10: because he's, effective and because he's close to To Donald,

932
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 10: trump that's why he was. Assassinated and then you watch

933
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 10: it play out. Online and how can a healthy how

934
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 10: can any healthy society watch these these brutal murders play

935
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 10: out on x? Online and how can we be a

936
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 10: healthy society when that continues to? Happen and then we

937
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 10: then we want we all watch. IT i mean there's

938
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 10: something there's a part of that that that that grieves me,

939
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 10: too that there's something very very wrong going on, here

940
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 10: AND i don't know how to stop. IT i don't

941
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 10: know how to fix. IT i, mean this is the

942
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 10: health of our country and our and our society as.

943
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 10: People and we got we got to be. Better we

944
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 10: got to do, something we got to do we got

945
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 10: to do something different to stop something like.

946
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: That, Okay talking With Senator Jim banks Of, INDIANA I

947
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: i have, argued, sir AND i think you may have

948
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: heard me discuss this, before that the only way out

949
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: is through that there is no way to flip the

950
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: switch and make people stop being horrific hateful. Violence but

951
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: rather we have to see our way through and the

952
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: concepts and the philosophies have to be defeated that this

953
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: is a ballot box. Conversation it'd see things obvious that

954
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: for some the idea of this attack is to stop

955
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: the speech from. Happening but as we heard From President

956
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: trump in his office address, yesterday as we have heard from,

957
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: others these things don't work that. Way you see the

958
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: assassination Of Charlie, kirk and whether it's a radio host

959
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: like myself on a local or national, level or you

960
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: in your work and people are, television video other, things

961
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: they're not going to. Stop is there an effect that

962
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: we see coming into the elections where maybe that will

963
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: teach some of these violent people you can't actually stop.

964
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 3: This it only inspires people to be more.

965
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 10: Active, YEAH i. Hope. SO i mean the day THAT

966
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 10: i Knew Donald trump was going to be at the

967
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 10: president again was the day that he was shot In.

968
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 10: PENNSYLVANIA i, mean that was the day THAT i knew.

969
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 10: IT i THINK i think it's the day that he knew,

970
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 10: it and and that became true in the country bolted

971
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 10: against that despicable. Act and and uh In. Pennsylvania now

972
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 10: now you have have have this. INCIDENT i think about you,

973
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 10: know my first year In congress back in twenty. Seventeen

974
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 10: i'll never forget you, know WHERE i was and WHAT

975
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 10: i was doing WHEN i found out That Steve scalise

976
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 10: was shot on the baseball diamond outside Of, washington d C,

977
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 10: uh practicing with The congressional baseball. Team so my hope

978
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 10: is that the country will will reject to your, point reject,

979
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 10: it go to the ballot, box reject these, tactics and

980
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 10: and then we can move on and restore this great.

981
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 10: Country and remember that what what makes it great is

982
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 10: that we can civilly. Disagree and it's the greatest country

983
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 10: in the history of the world because we we have

984
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 10: these rights to think differently and and uh and and

985
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 10: and act act out on the differences of opinion and

986
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 10: a peaceful and civil way through our through the civic

987
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 10: process that we. Have and and that's what all. About

988
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 10: so to your, POINT i, HOPE i hope that would

989
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 10: be the.

990
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: Case before BEFORE i let you, go does anything that

991
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: you witnessed In, utah does it change the way you?

992
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: Operate does it change the way your office is operating

993
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: or any fellow? Senators, YEAH i think.

994
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 10: It you, know it reminds us in the in the

995
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 10: public eye and when we're out in the public and you,

996
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 10: know going to events to be. CAREFUL i, MEAN i

997
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 10: think in MY i think of my, KIDS i think

998
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 10: of my, WIFE i think of my staff and keeping

999
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 10: them safe and. Protected of, COURSE i mean. It it

1000
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 10: crosses my, mind AND i, KNOW i know it crosses

1001
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 10: the mind of every single one of my colleagues in

1002
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 10: The senate as they as they think about this. Too

1003
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 10: On Capitol, hill we have The Capitol police who are

1004
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 10: the heroes that protect me and my staff every single.

1005
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 10: Day and When i'm When i'm back In indiana and

1006
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 10: traveling around the, state you, know we take precautions. Too so.

1007
01:05:59,640 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: BUT i.

1008
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 10: Would be lying if we you, know myself and my

1009
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 10: colleagues that we don't talk about, that we don't think about,

1010
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 10: it And i'm sure that it will lead to more

1011
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 10: measures that we'll all take to stay safe when we're

1012
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 10: in the.

1013
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: Public Senator Jim, BANKS i appreciate you taking the time

1014
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: to be with us more to get To I'm Tony.

1015
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: Katz this Is Tony Katz.

1016
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 19: Today if you look at our table of contents and

1017
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 19: we've just passed out the report to many of, you

1018
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 19: we break the prestrictions on food into gaza into a

1019
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 19: number of. Parts i'm just going to read them and

1020
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 19: not go into great, detail BUT i think it's important

1021
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 19: to understand the level of specifics in this. Report we

1022
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 19: start with the seventy eight day total blockade of food

1023
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 19: and humanitarian assistance To gaza that ran From march second

1024
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 19: To may, nineteenth and as a result of, that you

1025
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 19: had a huge amount of people starving to death In.

1026
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: Gaza That's Senator chris Van.

1027
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: Holland AND i must tell you THAT i wouldn't trust

1028
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: a single number that guy gave you went to have

1029
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: margaritas with Kilmar Abrego. Garcia we already know that you're

1030
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: an Anti israel. Guy i'm now going to listen to

1031
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: you regarding deaths In gaza when everything is the fault Of,

1032
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: hamas a terrorist. Organization THE un told, Us now do

1033
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: you trust THE? Un but THE un told us that

1034
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 2: it Was hamas that was stealing the food and keeping

1035
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: it from the.

1036
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 3: People israel is responsible for feeding the people that attack.

1037
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: THEM a maddening. Proposition DID i, say, Hello Tony, Katz

1038
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: Tony katz, today good to be with. You But Senator

1039
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: Van holland And Senator merkley of Both democrats held this

1040
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: press conference about the humanitarian situation In gaza.

1041
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 19: Today one of the things we heard in loud and

1042
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 19: clear is in order to address that problem right now

1043
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 19: is to open more crossings in To. Gaza there are

1044
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 19: two that are regularly, Open, karamshalom which we visited And.

1045
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 19: Zekeem there are two others that the international organizations have

1046
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 19: pushed to have open as regular, crossings not sporadic, crossings

1047
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 19: in order to get more food into A gaza that

1048
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 19: has not happened. Yet there, are in, addition the advent

1049
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 19: of this so Called Gazi Humanitarian Initiative.

1050
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: Center merkley will speak more to.

1051
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 19: This this is when after that total total siege on,

1052
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 19: food the blockade on, food instead of reopening the NORMAL

1053
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 19: un delivery, system they move toward this system with private,

1054
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 19: contractors private security, folks open just for sites for two million,

1055
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 19: people three of them in Southern, gaza none of them

1056
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 19: in the. North clearly designed to use food as a

1057
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 19: method of population control as they try to push The

1058
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 19: palestinian pop out of the Northern. Gods and of course

1059
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,919
Speaker 19: we're witnessing right now the military operation.

1060
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: There you can't trust The United nations because after all

1061
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: THE un was there in preparation For october seventh and

1062
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: help participate in. It we already know this for, fact

1063
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: that the idea that is real still let's in food

1064
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: to a an area that has tried to kill them

1065
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: and is killing.

1066
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 3: THEM i, mean that's just still.

1067
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: Unprecedented and most, Importantly Senator Chris Van hollands still cannot

1068
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: accept the fact that this is a nation at war

1069
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: with a terrorist organization and a population that supports. It

1070
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: we don't have to somehow disagree with rational thought that

1071
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: there are definitely people who are there In gadz who

1072
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:49,480
Speaker 2: don't support anything that's going, on and they're, suffering absolutely positively,

1073
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: true without question. True all of that suffering is at

1074
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 2: the fault Of, hamas is on the feet Of, Hamas

1075
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: it's on the hands Of. Hamas and here's Van i'm,

1076
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 2: Saying israel this And israel that it's just. WEIRD i

1077
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: don't care what your thoughts are About. Israel that is

1078
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: near and consequential to the larger scale subject here in

1079
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: what other, situation on what other planet could one engage this.

1080
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: Conversation israel gets, attacked how Dare israel not feed the?

1081
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: Attacker it is a surreal thought. Process But israel does

1082
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: allow in. Food it's not enough according To center Of

1083
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 2: Van holland who cares what he. Thinks it's not more,

1084
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: checkpoints more of. This what if you open up more

1085
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 2: checkpoints and it allows more tax possibly Than, israel they

1086
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: should still allow it because you decided that's the right, kind,

1087
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: normal nice decent thing to. Do, no wanting the terrorists

1088
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: destroyed and wanting the hostages returned is the, nice, normal

1089
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: decent thing to. Do wanting the terrorists destroyed and people

1090
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: being able to live safe, lives that's the.

1091
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: Nice, normal decent thing to.

1092
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: Do keep it.

1093
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: Here I'm Tony.

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: Katz this Is Tony Katz, Today live from The heartland

1095
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:23,480
Speaker 1: and The crossroads Of. America It's Tony Katz, Today.

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01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 17: Boy Allan, Baton Donald Richard Gabagan, Junior Peter Alan, Yay TERRENCE. D,

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 17: Gazini Gary paul Guidell Paul Hamilton.

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: Guyer and this is how it will go on for

1099
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: another few. Hours Tony, Katz Tony Kats, Today good to

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: be with. You that is the reading of the names

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01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: of those lost On september, eleventh two thousand and one

1102
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: In New. York so this part of it came from

1103
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: a little after ten Am eastern and that will continue for.

1104
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: Still hours to come as they are on the.

1105
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: G's it's, horrifying and YET i consider this to be

1106
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: one of the greater things we, do.

1107
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 14: This.

1108
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 3: Recital it's.

1109
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: Funny the idea of, names while certainly mentioned throughout, history

1110
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: the idea of that as, memorial it didn't really come,

1111
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: up really didn't change until The Vietnam memorial changed everything because, now.

1112
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: When a memorial was, CREATED i remember. That so The

1113
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: Korean War memorial was created and you didn't have.

1114
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: Names on, it people were infuriated by the way you

1115
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,839
Speaker 2: hear the. Bell that's because at the time this, played

1116
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: it was ten oh three and that's When United Airlines

1117
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: flight ninety three Crashed, Shanksville. Pennsylvania now that's going to

1118
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: bring about its own story about How i'm still.

1119
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: Alive i'm going to get there and they will continue reading.

1120
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: Names people were when they see now a memorial without,

1121
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: names are, like, wait, wait what About and so when

1122
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: you take a look at the memorial For september, eleventh

1123
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: the names are there all. Around and there's been a

1124
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 2: lot of controversy because there it came out the amount

1125
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 2: of salaries these executives.

1126
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: With the nine Eleven memorial making and people are.

1127
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: Like what in the world is. This so now there's

1128
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 2: a theory that the entire nine Eleven memorial might be

1129
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: taken over by the federal government in order to kind

1130
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: of eliminate that level of, abuse which it certainly looks

1131
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: like to. Me but the, commemoration the reading of the,

1132
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 2: names this isn't something that just. Happens september eleventh should

1133
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: never be seen is something that just. Happened i'm not

1134
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: saying you take it that, way but it should be

1135
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: seen as something that happened to people.

1136
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: Who who suffered through, this who was killed for no.

1137
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: Reason it's one of the REASONS i, believe.

1138
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,919
Speaker 2: Very very, strongly As i've discussed in that On september,

1139
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: eleventh you need to watch the. Videos they're. Awful you

1140
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: need to watch the planes strike the. Towers you need

1141
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: to watch people. Jump AND i know it's, Like, tony

1142
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: what do you what are you possibly kind of putting

1143
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: out there or inferring there or preaching. There the heat

1144
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: was so intense there was no, escape and some people

1145
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: thought that this was an.

1146
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: Option they.

1147
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: Jumped they had to know they were going to. Die

1148
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: they had to know the minute their feet left the

1149
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: ground it was. Over but they already believe they were,

1150
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: dead and this was somehow in their minds as why

1151
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: they were going to live through. It somehow it was

1152
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: going to be.

1153
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: Okay somehow it was going to. WORK i can't.

1154
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: Imagine and it is to that THAT i commend you

1155
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: to watching the videos la the, firefighters the first, responders

1156
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: The americans covered in. Dust Eric swan over there At

1157
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: fox just announced that he has cancer from his coverage

1158
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: Of september, Eleventh the struggles that beyond, sacrifice of those

1159
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: who did everything they could to try and rescue, people

1160
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: the people who were killed for no, reason and the

1161
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: people who are still dying From september eleventh because of what.

1162
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 2: Happened it's imperative to watch these. Things it's imperative to

1163
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: go over these things again and again and again because

1164
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: do not see them and to simply, say, Oh september

1165
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: eleventh is to be desensitized to.

1166
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 7: It.

1167
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: Alexander it's the same way when we discuss the very

1168
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: concept of we don't use The holocaust as a political Prop, edmund.

1169
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: We don't talk about The?

1170
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: Holocaust is, oh this is A holocaust That's Allocaust, nazi That's,

1171
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: nazi That nazi the. Other we do not do that

1172
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: because in doing so we are denigrating, it we're diminishing,

1173
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: it as if somehow it is something to be passed.

1174
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: Over it should not be nine to, eleven should not

1175
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 2: be passed over by any stretch of the. Imagination robert, none.

1176
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 3: Zero less than.

1177
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: Zero it should be.

1178
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 9: This BRIAN. F, Goldenberg JEFFREY.

1179
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 4: G Gold, Slam.

1180
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 9: Stephen Oh, Wait Michelle, Goldstein.

1181
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: Monica, goldstein.

1182
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 9: Stephen Ian. Goldstein they have.

1183
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: People reading, it and they make mistakes and they flub

1184
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: and they're. Human but it's. Important it's unbelievably. Important. NOW

1185
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: i have shared the story, before and there's not a

1186
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: day that goes by THAT i don't think about.

1187
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 15: It.

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01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: ENRIQUE i was a restaurant Manager gomez On september. ELEVENTH

1189
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: i worked at The Hard Rock cafe In, washington D.

1190
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 2: C i don't THINK i was a good. Manager AS

1191
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: i look back on, IT i don't THINK i was bad,

1192
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: junior BUT i was at the time a depressed, guy

1193
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: a miserable, guy you, know having nothing to do with,

1194
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: anybody just just, myself AND i could not have been

1195
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: fun or enjoyable to be around as a. Manager, AGAIN

1196
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 2: i don't THINK i was the worst person in the,

1197
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: world but AS i look back on, it my, gosh

1198
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: what WAS I what WAS i? DOING i needed Help

1199
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: AND i don't THINK i Handled september eleventh.

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01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: Perfectly And i'll get into that as. Well And.

1201
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 4: GRANDMA i was doing a.

1202
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: Training we had a new. EMPLOYEE i can kind of

1203
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,560
Speaker 2: picture him by FOR i forget his.

1204
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 4: Name.

1205
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 2: Uh AND i was doing a training AS i was a,

1206
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: manager and some of the staff came in and, said

1207
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 2: you got to see, this, right we have these TVs.

1208
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: Up it was a hard rock cafe in D c

1209
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: and this was, happening and we're hearing About New. York

1210
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: and then you saw the second plane.

1211
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 9: Hit THAT i WISH i could share with.

1212
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 3: You and then around D c it was it was

1213
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 3: kind of, bedlam right The pentagon got.

1214
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 10: Hit.

1215
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 3: Uh the the Hard Rock cafe is at.

1216
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: Ninth AND e LETTER e you and it's right next

1217
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: To Ford's theater Where Abraham lincoln was. Killed and then

1218
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 2: across the street line is THE fbi, building The Jaeger Hoover,

1219
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: building AND i watched people run out of that building

1220
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: like ants out of an anhill Bless. America that is

1221
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: a strange and surreal, experience, stranging surreal thing to.

1222
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 3: WITNESS i.

1223
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: Called some, people right managers and other general manager of what?

1224
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: Else all, right we're not gonna be.

1225
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: Open everyone go.

1226
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 3: Home AND i lived IN dc at the.

1227
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: TIME i lived at Van, Ness so my fifteen minute

1228
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: twenty minute depending on traffic commute BECAUSE i didn't drive

1229
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: the rush hour.

1230
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: Times that took three.

1231
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: Hours AND i put forth to you that the people

1232
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 2: on flight ninety three who stormed the cockpit to try

1233
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: to take back control of the plane before the plane

1234
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: crashed In, Shangso, pennsylvania that plane was heading back To,

1235
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 2: washington D. C that, Plane, michael multiple, sources heading to

1236
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: see if it can crash.

1237
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 3: At The White.

1238
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: House we already had things going on in The, pentagon

1239
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: and there was also a lot of reports IN dc

1240
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: about car bombs all.

1241
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: AROUND i remember that very very.

1242
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: Clearly now it didn't happen to be, true but there

1243
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: was constant reporting of that Third and if it wasn't

1244
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: for those on flight ninety three trying to take back

1245
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: the cockpit and that plane crashing In, shanksville if that

1246
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 2: plane had not, crashed that plane was.

1247
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: Heading for The White.

1248
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: House now The White House james sixteen, Hundred Pennsylvania avenue

1249
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: has got THE OEO b on one, side got another

1250
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 2: building on the other.

1251
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 3: Side so it's a little bit. Tuckdown it's a little

1252
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 3: hard to get, To.

1253
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: Timothy so what if they didn't get to? It what

1254
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 2: if they missed and they aimed just Down Pennsylvania, avenue,

1255
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: which of course is The, capital The capitol. Rotunda you've

1256
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: seen it in every picture Ever Donald and what if

1257
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: they were aimed for, That and what if they missed

1258
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: in between The capitol and The White? House is, well,

1259
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,440
Speaker 2: me Father, steven a couple of blocks up In, pennsylvania

1260
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 2: but still. THERE i am it is, Easy it is,

1261
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: plausible and has always been in my mind, that, yes,

1262
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: indeed that plane could have missed The White, house tried

1263
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: that The capitol crashed in, between AND i wouldn't be.

1264
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 4: Alive.

1265
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: TODAY i am.

1266
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: CONVINCED i cannot be told otherwise that those people saved my.

1267
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: LIFE i believe it in every single. Way the light,

1268
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: shines and those people should not be.

1269
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 6: Forgotten has not overcome it like these, people this ceremony

1270
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 6: should not be. Forgotten here today we are the, light

1271
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 6: the legacy is are loved ones left for us to carry.

1272
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 9: Forward that is the.

1273
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 15: Light And, america the land of the, free home of the,

1274
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 15: brave is the. Light the darkness of terrorism will never

1275
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 15: overcome the strength of. That May god bless my, Cousin

1276
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 15: Make god bless you and your loved, Ones and Make

1277
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 15: god bless the greatest country on, earth The United states Of.

1278
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: AMERICA i don't know who that guy, is but he

1279
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 2: could run for.

1280
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 3: Office that's why these things are so.

1281
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Imperative that's why it's so imperative to go through, it

1282
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: to remember every single year and every single.

1283
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: Day it's WHY i talk about watching these horrifying.

1284
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: Videos that's WHY i discuss the importance of sharing and

1285
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: sharing with your kids and your, grandkids and your aunts and,

1286
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: uncles and your, friends and with each, other with your.

1287
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: Spouse just taking a moment to yourself and engage in

1288
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 2: that level of.

1289
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 3: Reflection it matters. Greatly we got.

1290
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 2: Attacked we got attacked because others thought that we should

1291
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: not exist our way because somehow we were interfering with

1292
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 2: the way they.

1293
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 3: Exist and if you want to argue That osama Bin

1294
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: laden somehow.

1295
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: Had a noble, cause.

1296
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 4: Feel.

1297
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: Free there is no noble cause in this. Destruction there

1298
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: is no noble cause in this attack on. Innocence. Peter

1299
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: the people on flight ninety three saved my, life and

1300
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 2: they were, innocent and they still gave themselves freely knowing

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: that even if they didn't save, themselves they were going

1302
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: to save. Others did they think?

1303
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 19: It?

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01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: GOSH i hope, SO i truly truly hope.

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 16: So.

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: Talent Every september, Eleventh i'm reminded of how LUCKY i,

1307
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: am AND i believe that to my soul to this,

1308
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: day twenty four years. Later, NOW i SAID i would

1309
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: share HOW I i don't THINK i Handled september. Eleventh,

1310
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: well we. WILL i don't THINK i understood the gravity

1311
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 2: of the, situation because WHILE i was always a politically aware, GUY.

1312
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: I was not a politically active.

1313
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 12: Guy Tails RICHARD. B, Hall STANLEY. R, Hall Bisbel George,

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01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 12: Hall ROBERT. J, Halligan Vincent gerard pollerin.

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01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 3: The names, CONTINUED i mean we just got into the h,

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01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: as we were just in the.

1317
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: G's this is going to go, On Salmon.

1318
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 12: Hamdani WHEN i.

1319
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 3: Tell you THAT i was not aware of this was,

1320
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 3: terrorism that's true, Story.

1321
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: CARL i didn't even THINK i didn't know what had,

1322
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: happened and even if the concept had hit, me it

1323
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 2: didn't hit me until later as other people were discussing.

1324
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 2: It AS i was always on the political, RIGHT i

1325
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: was never not a, conservative BUT i certainly did not

1326
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,959
Speaker 2: put some things together into. Practice it was it Was september.

1327
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: Eleventh it's not, that you, know some people just refer

1328
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: to themselves As september Twelve, conservatives nine twelve.

1329
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: Conservatives that was not.

1330
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: Me that was not, me but rather it was the

1331
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: thing that guy me INTO i want to start talking about.

1332
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: THIS i want to start discussing. THIS i want to

1333
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: start sharing. This and started me, studying started me, learning

1334
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 2: started me putting things out into the public square and

1335
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: getting my butt handed to. Me well you didn't think.

1336
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: About, this and what about? That oh that's a terrible. Idea, no, no,

1337
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 3: no this was tried over heretie.

1338
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: Learning all the way.

1339
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 3: Around.

1340
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: Daniel WHEN i SAY i don't THINK i handled it,

1341
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: WELL i think THAT i kind of at the time

1342
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: didn't have an understanding of what resolved. Was you, know

1343
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people could posture on social, media but

1344
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: you ask yourself what it. Means AND i WAS i

1345
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: was never a touchy feely. Guy but that was kind

1346
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 2: of the DIRECTION i, went and, hey is how is everybody?

1347
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: Doing and has everybody handling? This you want to you,

1348
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: know are you having a you know what's on your?

1349
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: Head you got to be able to work that stuff.

1350
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: THROUGH i don't. KNOW i was a guy who wasn't

1351
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: mentally all right trying to think out how other people

1352
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: could be mentally all. Right WHEN i look back on,

1353
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: it that was kind of. Ridiculous i've heard so many amazing.

1354
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 3: STORIES i don't THINK i became.

1355
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: ANGRIER i THINK i just simply, said wait a, second

1356
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: what is the value of any, Statement what.

1357
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 3: Is the value of any? Thoughts and what is the

1358
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 3: value of any?

1359
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: Action what are my, statements what are my? Thoughts what

1360
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: are my? Actions and they are? Mine and let other

1361
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: people engage by example if they, choose not by some

1362
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of stroking of the hair and, saying oh poor,

1363
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: baby but, rather, hey here's what.

1364
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 3: Happened are we all talking about the same?

1365
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 2: Thing you, know to What Dennis prager has often talked

1366
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 2: about in his illustrious radio. CAREER i don't know IF

1367
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: i want, agreements BUT i certainly want. CLARITY i learned

1368
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: that later that all came. Later maybe for some people it,

1369
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 2: didn't but it did for. ME i never looked. Back

1370
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: that much is. True AS i started to get my

1371
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: head on, straight realize what was wrong with, me confront those,

1372
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: demons work these things, through everything became. CLEARER i became,

1373
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: happy AND i became more aware of HOW i can

1374
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: engage a conversation, better. SMARTER i learned along the. WAY

1375
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: i learned that there are things THAT i did not

1376
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: know and things THAT i were not, thinking was not

1377
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: thinking about THAT i needed. TO i learned that THERE

1378
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: i can't tell people how to. FEEL i can only

1379
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: engage a way of HOW i am handling, something and

1380
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: engage the very concept of utilizing examples. Especially BUT i

1381
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: could share a story AND i wanted, to AND i

1382
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: could share a thought AND i wanted to historic, day

1383
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: and from, that thank you kind of led me here.

1384
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 3: And i'm Glad i'm here with, You.

1385
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: Peter and it is a rough day because It's september,

1386
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: eleventh twenty four years, later and it is a rough

1387
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 2: day because we are twenty four hours past the assassination

1388
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: Of CHARLIE kirkt is all.

1389
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 10: Rough the.

1390
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: Only THING i.

1391
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: Still FEEL i can do is say, listen here's How

1392
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: i'm going to deal with. IT i woke up today

1393
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: AND i, said today is going to be, tough BUT

1394
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: i can get through. It And i'm going to wake

1395
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: up tomorrow And i'm Going i'm going to say to, myself.

1396
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: It might be, rough BUT i can get through.

1397
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: It, anthony good, attitude an understanding of the, world a

1398
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: respect for, Rationality James, edwards my values intact and being

1399
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: unrelenting with, Them. Philip, so if there's anything you can

1400
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: take from that by, Example I'm i'm very. HAPPY i

1401
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: think that's. Great maybe you can do even. Better and

1402
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: good on. You september, eleventh twenty four years. Later thank

1403
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 2: you to the people Of flight ninety. Three this Is

1404
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Today JOHN. F.

1405
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:49,919
Speaker 9: Keefer MICHELLE. M, Heidenberger SHEILA. M s Heine, H Joseph,

1406
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 9: heller Jor.

1407
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: SO i have article? Four DO i Hear article? Five Tony,

1408
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Katz Tony Kats, Today good to be with. You this

1409
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 2: Is poland, saying, HEY, nato we just got hit with

1410
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: a lot Of russian drones and they know they did,

1411
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: it and it wasn't an.

1412
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 3: Accident they did it on.

1413
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Purpose they're, escalating so why don't we all just recognize

1414
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: That article five is coming, next which means an attack

1415
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: on one is an attack on. All and if that's the,

1416
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: CASE i expect you here at the house at about

1417
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: five thirty guns, drawn ready to kill Some. Russians you

1418
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: in because you, signed you said you'd be. In so

1419
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: let's just assume you're. In, Okay i'll let you. Know

1420
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: i'll let you know if we're doing. That all, right,

1421
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: THANKS i, mean good, gosh this is, Happening Tony, Katz

1422
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Tony kats.

1423
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: TODAY i forget some times.

1424
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: IF i, say, hello you had these Nineteen russian military,

1425
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: drones some launch From belarus Entering polish. Airspace this during

1426
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,839
Speaker 2: a large scale assault On. Ukraine, yes there's a serious

1427
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: push From russia On ukraine because what they're trying to

1428
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: do is further Degrade. Ukraine So ukraine feels like they

1429
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: have to make a deal by giving up land And

1430
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: russia gets what it's once if it has to come

1431
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: to some level of deal and agree to something that

1432
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: The United states, wants and look at, us, right they're

1433
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 2: just trying to engage the pressure now to get what they.

1434
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 2: Desire there's also a theory That Donald trump is slow

1435
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: rolling aid.

1436
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: To ukraine to Get ukraine to give.

1437
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 2: In and now you're Seeing russia engage in this attack

1438
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: On poland to get everybody to, say, hey, hey, hey,

1439
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 2: hey what are you, doing to Which russia, says, well

1440
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: if we just get some more, land then, oh these

1441
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 2: mistakes will. Stop it's The. Russians the stuff is never

1442
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: gonna stop until they're. Stopped but, YEAH nato is one

1443
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: step closer to a real. Fight europe is in this,

1444
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: fight but The United states is compelled by. Treaty and

1445
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: if anybody thinks that treaty is not gonna hold and

1446
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: we're not gonna come to the aid of our allies AT,

1447
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: nato we don't come to the aid Of, poland we

1448
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: don't live up to our, Word we're gonna lose a

1449
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: lot of.

1450
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 3: Friends and yes it.

1451
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 2: Matters this Is Tony katz. TODAY i have never been

1452
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: one to not speak about my. Judaism BUT i don't

1453
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: Think i've ever discussed the idea of. Faith for, me

1454
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: that's not my conversation AS i approach things here on the,

1455
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: show AS i approach things in my. Life My judaism is,

1456
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 2: There BUT i talk about. Logic they're always about, Reason

1457
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: they're always about what is the principle for which we

1458
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 2: are standing, Engaging and sometimes that principle does have it's faith.

1459
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Components BUT i find myself always on the conversation of

1460
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 2: to each their faith and let them have it and

1461
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: have at. It that is different than you should keep

1462
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: it in the home and quiet and not for the.

1463
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 2: WORLD i don't believe that at. All Tony, Katz Tony kats,

1464
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: today good to be with you into the discussion of

1465
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: the assassination Of Charlie kirk yesterday at the age of

1466
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: thirty one as he was speaking At Utah Valley. University

1467
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 2: he was not one to share that. View we were not,

1468
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 2: Friends we did not know each. Other we met once

1469
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: THAT i, Remember but he was someone who spoke of

1470
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,959
Speaker 2: his faith. Regularly Josh hammer joins me right. Now Newsweek

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01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 2: senior editor at, large host Of The Josh Hammer. Show

1472
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: josh writes. Frequently he has written about Anti, semitism writes

1473
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 2: about our political climate and. Culture and as you had

1474
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 2: posted On twitter x, yesterday you have a book coming

1475
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: out and you were speaking With charlie about, it And

1476
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: charlie was going to be utilizing the book and sharing

1477
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: information about the book on this tour that he was,

1478
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 2: doing The American Comeback, tour and all the colleges that

1479
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 2: he would go.

1480
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 3: TO i did not know you guys were that.

1481
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 2: Close so let's start with your thoughts On Charlie kirk

1482
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 2: and this horrific assassination that took.

1483
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 20: Place Sure tony always been to show it to. You,

1484
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 20: yes my book actually came out earlier this year In,

1485
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 20: March israel And, civilization The fate of The Jewish, nation

1486
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 20: and deathy in The. WEST i went on The Charlie

1487
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 20: Kirk show on the publication day of the book, actually

1488
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 20: AND i signed a copy of the book For charlie

1489
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 20: WHEN i saw him in, PERSON i guess for the last,

1490
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 20: time just over a month ago up In New. York

1491
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 20: so we were in close touch about these issues pertaining to,

1492
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 20: us his, Relations Jewish christian, relations rising Anti. Semitism i've

1493
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 20: Known charlie for. YEARS i first got to know him

1494
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 20: a little bit WHEN i was the opinion editor And

1495
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 20: newsweek NOW i have a different. Title WHEN i was

1496
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 20: running the op ed, Section charlie was actually a regular

1497
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 20: columnist for us for a while, there SO i first

1498
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 20: got to know him through, that and then he first

1499
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 20: invited me to do A Turning points conference event back

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01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 20: in twenty twenty, one and he loved the. Event we

1501
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 20: did so much that we immediately ran then stairs afterwards

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01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 20: do an additional hour Bonus richila for his. Podcast and

1503
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 20: we kind of got closer over the past, year year

1504
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 20: and a half or, so and it got to the

1505
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 20: point where we were essentially daily communication.

1506
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 3: About all these.

1507
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 20: Issues and it's true THAT i spoke with, HIM i

1508
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 20: guess the final time less than twenty four hours before

1509
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 20: a cowardly affects and gunned him. Down we were doing

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01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 20: a little little just little zoom pow out just in

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01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 20: advance of this campus. Tour this is the very first

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Speaker 20: event of what was supposed to be a, prolonged lengthy campus.

1513
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 20: Tours it was the very first, event and we you,

1514
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 20: know he asked for me and a couple others kind

1515
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 20: of try to give, him you, know good talking, points you,

1516
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 20: know good arguments when it comes to the, inevitable inevitable

1517
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 20: Anti semitism and Anti israel sentiments that now kind of

1518
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 20: flows out of a lot of these campus events these.

1519
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 20: Days and he had joked, me he, said you, Know,

1520
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 20: Josh i'm gonna just you, know points to your. Book he, Said,

1521
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 20: Josh i'm going to help you sell so many book

1522
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 20: copies on this book, tour so we had gotten. Close

1523
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 20: he was a, really really remarkable, Person. Tony and you,

1524
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 20: KNOW i think at some point SOON i will be

1525
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 20: able to take some solace in all that he did

1526
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 20: and be able to double down in my motivation to

1527
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 20: do that WHICH i can to further all the causes

1528
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 20: that he held. Here but today is really just a

1529
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 20: day Where i'm still increase in mourning and it's really difficult.

1530
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Time talking To Josh hammer Of. Newsweek now we've talked

1531
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: about the BOOK i had you on to discuss the.

1532
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: BOOK i didn't realize it was the same Book israel And,

1533
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: Civilization The fate of The Jewish nation and The destiny

1534
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 2: of The. West you can get that At amazon dot

1535
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: com wherever fine books are. SOLD i didn't realize it

1536
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 2: was the same book that was being. Referenced my mistake,

1537
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: There but the very conversation of faith which has been

1538
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 2: on the, uptick AND i have heard about more people

1539
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 2: coming To catholicism THAN i ever have, ever And i'm,

1540
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: like you, know The jews are over here and we

1541
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: have great, food but still coming to The, catholicism this

1542
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 2: engagement of faith AND toto and really this public expression of.

1543
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: FAITH i don't ever lie being somebody with a with

1544
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 2: over public expressions of.

1545
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Faith that's not my.

1546
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,879
Speaker 2: WAY i discussed my judaism, here BUT i don't. Engage

1547
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: it's not a daily part of WHAT i do or

1548
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: how people would think of, me my, brand how they know.

1549
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Me but it certainly was For charlie as you See

1550
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 2: american engage. Conversations is it just that part of the

1551
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 2: world that was paying attention To Charlie, kirk paying attention

1552
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 2: to the campus, tours or do you think that there

1553
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 2: is a real faith resurgence going on In?

1554
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 3: America charlie was.

1555
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 20: A particularly important voice from a safe perspective in this

1556
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 20: exact moment that we find ourselves, In. Tony and let

1557
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 20: me let me explain why that is. So first of,

1558
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,719
Speaker 20: all let me just say what ought to be, obvious

1559
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 20: or perhaps isn't for. Everyone he genuinely was a person

1560
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 20: of sincere. Faith there are a lot of people in

1561
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:07,520
Speaker 20: Elected republican politics and conservative media who call Themselves christians

1562
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 20: but don't necessarily walk.

1563
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 10: The walk that is taught the.

1564
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 20: Talk charlie was a genuine sincerely believing, devouts evangelic Christian

1565
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 20: he genuinely Believed scripture to be the to be the

1566
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 20: ineffable word Of. God AND i think even more relevant

1567
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 20: for that for the current moment we find ourselves, in

1568
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,440
Speaker 20: is that his form Of, christianity his form Of, prosentism

1569
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 20: was The prosentism The christianity of The American. FOUNDING i

1570
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 20: actually was just speaking about This tony literally last week

1571
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 20: at The national Consuragi And conference In, WASHINGTON. Dc my

1572
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 20: speech at the conference was titled The Hebrew bible And Western,

1573
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:50,440
Speaker 20: civilization AND i was basically making an appeal To protestants

1574
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 20: And evangelicals to recover The christianity of The American, founding

1575
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 20: which rooted itself in The Hebrew, bible The Old, testament

1576
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 20: as opposed to some of the more fringe stuff that

1577
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 20: we see from the folks Of, Tucker carlston and so.

1578
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 20: Forth charlie had the Same christianity of The American. FOUNDING i,

1579
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 20: mean this is a Man tony who literally observed his

1580
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 20: version Of, shabbat The Jewish, sabbath From friday night To saturday.

1581
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 20: Night Charlie kirk would turn his phone, off you, Know

1582
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 20: tarlie before you AND i came. ON i watched this amazing,

1583
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 20: clip this's two man eclip On. Instagram for the first

1584
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 20: time he and his Wife erica getting asked a question

1585
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 20: about this exact point About huthan The sabbath and the

1586
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 20: way that he was talking about, it about How god

1587
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 20: created the world in sixth days the seventh days for,

1588
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 20: us he literally sounded like An Orthodox. Jew and this

1589
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 20: is someone who has repeatedly said that With, torah The

1590
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 20: Five books Of moses is the underpinning not merely Of,

1591
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 20: judaism but his Own christian. Faith he speaks, movingly or

1592
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 20: he spoke movingly about how you used to Study torah

1593
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 20: With Dennis, kraeger one of his. Mentors another one of

1594
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 20: his mentors was the Great Late David, horowitz who was

1595
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 20: also a profound champion of The Judeo Christian alliance and

1596
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 20: THE Us israel alliance was really really core To charlie's.

1597
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 20: Identity he was a, robust robust member of team civilization

1598
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 20: versus Team. Barbarism and he understood that it's not Merely,

1599
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 20: christendom it's not Merely, christianity that the religion that's Built western.

1600
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 20: Civilization it's not merely The christians who are part of

1601
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 20: This western civilization. Alliance he completely intuited and understood that

1602
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 20: the original people of the, book That jewish, people have

1603
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 20: a very special role to play in this alliance as.

1604
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 20: Well and that's one of the many, reasons many reasons

1605
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 20: why his loss is just so devastating at this, time

1606
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 20: because there are a lot of folks out, there a

1607
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 20: lot of provocateurist propagandists who are trying really hard this

1608
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 20: moment to not merely distant THE Us, israel but trying

1609
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 20: to Distance christians From, jews And charlie was one of

1610
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 20: the most important, voices arguably the most important voice in

1611
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 20: the country trying to keep that alliance, together trying to

1612
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,839
Speaker 20: heal that, gap trying to heal any wound that were festering.

1613
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 20: There and you, KNOW i just Pray tony that his

1614
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 20: version Of christianity ultimately prevailed In america and Not Tucker

1615
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 20: carlson's version Of, christianity because that would look quite a bit,

1616
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 20: different not just for The, jews but For america.

1617
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Itself talking To Josh hammer Of, newsweek that story The

1618
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 2: Hebrew bible And Western, civilization you can find that At

1619
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 2: Newsweek dot com a preview of The Josh Hammer. Report

1620
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 2: you can check that out for. Yourself it'll come straight

1621
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: into your inbox if you, subscribe and you should do so,

1622
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: immediately if not. Sooner we could get into a conversation

1623
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,799
Speaker 2: about the. Provocatories we could talk about what has happened

1624
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: With Tucker carlson and which Is i've, seen and Certainly

1625
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Candice owens which maybe was always, there, certainly but rather

1626
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: sticking with the focus, here sticking With Charlie, kirkin sticking

1627
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: with what has taken place with the crowds that would

1628
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: gather and the impact had you saw that that impact take?

1629
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Place the question THAT i got to not was whether

1630
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 2: or not he was an important, voice WHICH i don't disagree,

1631
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: with but rather have you seen a faith impact on

1632
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: the same student body that would show up to these you,

1633
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 2: know prove me wrong events where really a large amount

1634
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:26,560
Speaker 2: of it was Watching charlie bat around a progressive nonsense

1635
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 2: like a cat with a. Mouse, Well charlie knew what

1636
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 2: he was.

1637
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 20: DOING i, mean he knew what he was doing when

1638
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 20: he was putting himself on these. Canvases Now i'm not

1639
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 20: to say that he knew that he was subjecting himself

1640
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 20: to a two hundred yard sniper assassin's rifle on and

1641
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 20: that's obviously not What i'm. Saying but he knew that

1642
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 20: he was going into the, lines and he was well

1643
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 20: aware of.

1644
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 2: That that was a big part of.

1645
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 20: What he was trying to. Do, ACTUALLY i, mean it

1646
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 20: was not his intent to simply try to just talk

1647
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 20: with those parts of the right wing conservative. Cause, already

1648
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 20: he was not just trying to talk to turning point

1649
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 20: IN usa campus. Activists he was actively trying to elicit

1650
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 20: trying to draw out folks who robustly disagreed with him

1651
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 20: on all drubin, issues, transgenderism, abortion, immigration you name. It

1652
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 20: and those are his most viral eclips over the years

1653
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 20: are the left wing students who profoundly disagreed with. Him

1654
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 20: and he was trying, to among other, things modeling, example

1655
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 20: he was trying to model not merely courage and conviction

1656
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 20: and standing for truth and principle in His christian faith and,

1657
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 20: conservatism but he also was trying to rote to model

1658
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 20: a robust with civil exchange of. IDEAS i, Mean, tony

1659
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 20: he literally died as a martyr for free. Speech that

1660
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 20: is literally what happened yesterday In utah was he's sitting

1661
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 20: under this canopy that, says prove me, wrong because he's

1662
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 20: trying to elicit in a free speech dialogue leftist to

1663
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 20: prove him. Wrong he believed lead and free. Speech it

1664
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 20: is actually one of the, things to be, clear ielp

1665
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 20: for free, speech but sometimes when it commits an any

1666
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 20: semitism on Campus title. Six you, know we had some

1667
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 20: nuanced disagreements over the limits of free speech versus incitement

1668
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 20: and so forth, there but he was a true free speech.

1669
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 20: Absolutist he believed in that with every single fiver of his.

1670
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 20: Being and, LOOK i mean talking, about you, know gutting someone,

1671
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 20: down the crime in his life at age thirty, one

1672
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 20: a young father and, husband it's unconscionably. Horrific it's just absolutely.

1673
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 20: Awful BUT i guess if there's any silver line to this,

1674
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 20: whatsoever it's that he died as a martyr for one

1675
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 20: of the most cherished ideals that he, held which was

1676
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 20: the right to civil exchange and free, speech, which by the,

1677
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 20: way we have a long ways to go really to

1678
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 20: recover that tradition here In, america that is for. Sure

1679
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 20: But charlie's doing more than anyone to make sure that

1680
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 20: that hopefully.

1681
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 10: HAPPENS i don't.

1682
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 2: Want anybody as martyrs to ensure that we have free

1683
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 2: speech and the ability to, engage which leads us to what's.

1684
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 2: Next you, know the amount of people who reach out

1685
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 2: to me to ask me If i'm?

1686
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 3: Okay all?

1687
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: RIGHT i do local, RADIO i do national, radio not

1688
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 2: as big As Charlie kirk by any stretch of the,

1689
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 2: imagination asking If i'm, Okay and the answer, is, Well

1690
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 2: i'm as okay as anybody. Else but, eventually if these

1691
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 2: people feel In, bolden they're going to come after. Everybody

1692
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: And i'm certainly on that list like, You josh would

1693
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 2: be on that. List so as you discussed with, people

1694
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: you talk about this with people while we still have

1695
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 2: about sixty.

1696
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 3: Seconds what's your advice on how to, Proceed?

1697
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 20: TONY i don't have all the. Answers, unfortunately the problem

1698
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 20: that folks like you AND i faith is that a

1699
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 20: lot of this rod is coming from the. Left the

1700
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:52,759
Speaker 20: left had a disproportionately hyperpensity to political violence their account

1701
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 20: with examples now that prove. That and there's only so

1702
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 20: much that folks on the right can do to try

1703
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 20: to get the left house in. Order so that's part

1704
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 20: of the frustrating part is THAT i feel somewhat. HELPLESS

1705
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 20: a lot of it is the ultimately going to be

1706
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 20: democrats and the left kind of policing their own political

1707
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 20: rhetoric and so forth. There but all the folks that

1708
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 20: you AND i can do this moment is, yes grief

1709
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 20: for a, loss but to double down on the mission

1710
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 20: to make sure that none of this, ever, ever, ever,

1711
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 20: ever ever goes to, vane ever goes to, waste and

1712
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 20: that we just fight harder than ever for all the various.

1713
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 20: Ideals But charlie and all of us on the right

1714
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 20: hold to be so. Dear you, know rule of, law one,

1715
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 20: nation Under, god all men are create, equal secure, borders national,

1716
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 20: sovereignty et, cetera et. Cetera these are the ideal of

1717
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 20: that Motivated Charlie, kirk and these are the ideals that

1718
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 20: should motivate you AND i and all of our friends and.

1719
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 2: Allies selling Coach Josh hammer over there at newsweek dot

1720
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: com the Book israel And, Civilization The fate of The

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01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 2: Jewish nation and The destiny of The. West find that

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Speaker 2: i appreciate it more coming. Up I'm Tony. Katz so

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Speaker 2: while we still have the manhunt for a, shooter we

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Speaker 2: did have THE fbi come out to say there was

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Speaker 2: a bolt action. Rifle this, about of, course the assassination

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Speaker 2: Of Charlie. Kirk we know how this shooter got through

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01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 2: the building and up to the, roof and then how

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01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 2: got down and then running through a. Neighborhood and the

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Speaker 2: ammunition in the shooting engraved with, transgender anti fascist.

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Speaker 3: Ideology this is The Wall Street journal.

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Speaker 2: REPORTING i had seen this reporting and wanted to get

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Speaker 2: some confirmation that it was indeed. Accurate, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: yes THE amma was inscribed, THIS i guess now a

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Speaker 2: thing that these violent.

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Speaker 3: People do.

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Speaker 2: Horrifying on every, level but the very idea that it

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Speaker 2: had this kind of of stuff on.

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Speaker 3: It this doesn't surprise.

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Speaker 2: Anybody expressions of gender and anti fascist ideology inside the.

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Speaker 2: Rifle we're used to. This this has become the standard

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Speaker 2: of the. VIOLENCE i appreciate you spending a very difficult

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Speaker 2: day with.

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Speaker 4: Me you're.

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Speaker 2: Loved i've got you. Tomorrow everyone take care