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Speaker 1: We are back on Tony Katz today. I am Mike

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Speaker 1: Coolidge filling in for Tony Coolidge is spelled with a K.

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Speaker 1: Find me on x kub l I dge. And we

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Speaker 1: talked before the break about illegal immigration and about how

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Speaker 1: Ellis Island ushered in for decades legal immigration nearly two

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand per year. Between eighteen ninety two and nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty four, twelve million legal immigrants came in. My ancestors

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Speaker 1: my mother's side from Scotland. My father's side was from

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Speaker 1: during those years.

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Speaker 2: And it's part of what made our.

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Speaker 1: Country, especially in the twentieth and twenty first century, and

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Speaker 1: the generations that came after, and even those who legally

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Speaker 1: emigrated to the United States after Ellis Island closed, the

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Speaker 1: legal immigrants here become part of the melting pot of

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Speaker 1: that of course has been thrown out the window in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, particularly during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a tragedy, or I should say it's

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Speaker 1: bad when bad policy leads to people losing their jobs

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Speaker 1: or them not be able to afford groceries. But it

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Speaker 1: gets truly evil when bad policies result in people's debts.

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Speaker 1: And our next guest, I had the honor of meeting

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Speaker 1: earlier this week in Illinois, where I make my home,

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Speaker 1: and he went through something that none of us should

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Speaker 1: tell the story. Joe Abraham joins us now from from Illinois,

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Speaker 1: where where I happen to live as well. Joe, Welcome

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Speaker 1: on to Tony Katz today with Mike Coolidge.

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Speaker 3: I might it was a pleasure meeting you the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, tell us first about your daughter, Katie, and then

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners what exactly happened.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Katie's my youngest she's twenty years old. She was

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Speaker 3: such a spirit, Honestly, she was great sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: She loved music. She loved the water Water polo player.

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Speaker 3: She did so well at it. She was going in

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Speaker 3: her third year at Ohio University. They went down with

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Speaker 3: some friends to University of Illinois, so Urbana, Illinois, to

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Speaker 3: visit some friends at UFI, and she was killed on

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Speaker 3: rear of their car at eighty miles an hour, a

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Speaker 3: drunk driver turned out to be a drunk illegal alien driver.

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Speaker 3: So after we struck the car and devastated lies, five lives,

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Speaker 3: it that have to live without their children. He didn't

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Speaker 3: you know, the tragedy of it. To me, obviously, if

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Speaker 3: Illinois with these extreme, just utterly thoughtless and misguided sanctuary policies,

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Speaker 3: it's really devastating. It just sort of put salt in

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Speaker 3: that wound, you know, because it was preventable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that's the worst part about it is

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Speaker 1: that it was preventable had Illinois been a law or

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Speaker 3: I'll say his name. I'll say his name absolutely, Julio

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Speaker 2: And after you.

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Speaker 1: Buried your daughter, after you grieved for her, and I

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Speaker 3: Sure, So initially we thought we would be able to

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Speaker 3: Someone please talk to me. I lost the daughter. I

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Speaker 3: the folks like JB. Pritsgourd and his, the folks running Illinois.

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Speaker 3: They want this chaos in the streets. They need this

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Speaker 3: so mismanaged. This is the perfect deflection for these guys.

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Speaker 3: They wind up saying, oh, look at Ice, it's Gestapo

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Speaker 3: In the Illinois it's contrasts its prohibited. It's so beyond extreme.

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Speaker 3: When I learned more, Mike, I was just forored. How

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Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah, I mean, I know this show is broadcast

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Speaker 3: Is that right? In June? We were so the Trump

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's insane, and I'm thankful that the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration is doing something about it. Uhrible, horrible, horrible politicians

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Speaker 1: like Jamie Pritsker and his ilk are are doing the opposite.

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Speaker 2: And again, we're just so sorry.

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Speaker 1: That you had to go through what you had to

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Speaker 1: go through with losing your your precious daughter, Katie.

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Speaker 2: But it sounds like you are not letting her death

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Speaker 1: And I and I salute you, and I honor you,

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Speaker 1: or and I and I just am so thankful for

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Speaker 1: everything you're doing and you're you are literally saving lives.

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Speaker 1: Uh in the mission You're on, Joe, And thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on to Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. No one should ever have

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Speaker 3: to do that. And if we can, Katie and I

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Speaker 3: can help any parent not go through this. We're we're

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Speaker 3: all in. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back