Speaker 1: And where we go here?
Speaker 2: Anything you have a chance against us, mister cowboy gay mood?
Speaker 3: What you like to do? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Play chess school.
Speaker 4: When there's play chess.
Speaker 5: They give off that. Jonathan Taylor Chuck cunning its way
Speaker 5: cooking the goal line. He's in there, puts down and dye.
Speaker 5: Why Jonathan Taylor whailer.
Speaker 3: Finds here's haliber into the front board, mishandled it.
Speaker 5: Mcgins ay shot. He forfeits it.
Speaker 6: John, I have never been bedroom to be on the
Speaker 6: air with you here in Indianapolis, a place where so
Speaker 6: many of my dreams have come true.
Speaker 5: The ride with jmv on ninety three five and one
Speaker 5: oh seven five, the fan Alright, he's twenty four years old.
Speaker 6: It was necessary, and you wonder if he stays healthy,
Speaker 6: what he can do. Is it gonna be compromle numbers
Speaker 6: to that of Michael Pittman junior to where you felt compelled.
Speaker 6: A lot of you suggested, Hey, it's okay if this
Speaker 6: guy leaves, it's okay. If we trade him, it's okay
Speaker 6: if he ends up someplace else, because he's not impactful.
Speaker 6: Thirty four years of age, Keenan Allen, I look at
Speaker 6: it this way.
Speaker 5: It was a have to.
Speaker 6: An absolute something that without any other knowledge, without knowing what.
Speaker 5: Is going to be the future.
Speaker 6: You sit here right now and you understand fully that
Speaker 6: they had to get somebody.
Speaker 5: So I view it this way. Keenan Allen.
Speaker 6: By the way, nothing official as of yet, but widely
Speaker 6: reported throughout the course of the morning and then mid
Speaker 6: day and in the afternoon that he is going to
Speaker 6: be a member of the Colts again. Reunited him with
Speaker 6: Shane Steichen so they can bounce offensive philosophies off of
Speaker 6: one another. The guy Keenan Allen, has been really good.
Speaker 6: He has been solid, he has been consistent. Holy hell,
Speaker 6: that's exactly what you would want to be looking for
Speaker 6: around here. The only thing that I can look to
Speaker 6: as problematic is you are forced to do this because
Speaker 6: you're all a lot of options, no other options, and
Speaker 6: because you need it. It's not one of those situations
Speaker 6: where you are playing from in front and you measure
Speaker 6: this out as you know, because you've got so much
Speaker 6: you can count on, you can go ahead and do
Speaker 6: something like this. If it works, great, If it doesn't, hell,
Speaker 6: what ever, Well, in this case, you have to have
Speaker 6: a threat. Keenan Allen has to be a threat, if
Speaker 6: for nothing else. Michael Pittman Jr. Has explained over and
Speaker 6: over again, was a guy that opposing defenses and coordinators
Speaker 6: and coaches would have to like write, Okay, well, we
Speaker 6: got to account for this guy.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: He may not be Jerry Rice anytime soon, but we
Speaker 6: have to account for him. And that's what you get
Speaker 6: with Keenan Allen. I will say this you are going
Speaker 6: to get, hopefully, and we've been down the path to
Speaker 6: where and everybody brings up Andre Johnson. We've been down
Speaker 6: this path before where it hasn't worked out. The only
Speaker 6: drawback to this is the fact that it is a
Speaker 6: have to. It's not like you're working ahead. Your reactionary.
Speaker 6: I hate it when your teams are reactionary because they
Speaker 6: have to. I want teams dictating terms. That's what I
Speaker 6: love about basketball. In the case of the Pacers and
Speaker 6: the Fever by the way which play later off tonight,
Speaker 6: I love it when both dictate the terms. I mean,
Speaker 6: you could tell and I will say this, the Colts
Speaker 6: offensively the first eight weeks or so of the season,
Speaker 6: they did dictate the terms. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what I look for. That's what you should
Speaker 6: look for. We're gonna go out and we're gonna play
Speaker 6: this style, We're gonna play this brand, and it's gonna
Speaker 6: be your ass that has to match up with it.
Speaker 6: We're I worry about matching up with you.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 5: I hate to hear or I would hate to hear.
Speaker 6: My team when the play by play man or the
Speaker 6: color analyst says, well, you can see right now that
Speaker 6: Team X is matching up with Team Y. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: don't like that. I like it when they're matching up
Speaker 6: with it. You're doing something that they have to catch
Speaker 6: up with. And one of my favorite phrases of all time,
Speaker 6: and I'm going to go ahead and take full credit
Speaker 6: for it, dictating terms. You are dictating the terms, and
Speaker 6: the Colts offense did that a variety of times before
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones was injured and then was injured and done
Speaker 6: for the season, and then basically the terms and other
Speaker 6: teams for that matter, dictated them.
Speaker 5: You had to have this.
Speaker 6: So the only drawback, and again it is it is
Speaker 6: a flaw with this team that you're really not going
Speaker 6: to get passed or you're not going to iron out
Speaker 6: until you actually see them play, and that is making up,
Speaker 6: making up for what you feel is necessary.
Speaker 5: This is still not a team that has a lot of.
Speaker 6: For example, built in for me, for you, for others,
Speaker 6: believe things are going to be okay.
Speaker 5: There's so much proven.
Speaker 6: Then you could say, well, you know, that's around the NFL,
Speaker 6: that's in the NBA, that's in the WNBA, that's in
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball. You're always out there to prove it.
Speaker 6: But there are different variations of that too. There are
Speaker 6: teams you look around the NFL landscape, for example, like
Speaker 6: I'll give you a great example, the LA Rams like
Speaker 6: you're hanging on every word of Aaron Donnell. He's working
Speaker 6: out and he's doing all these drills and you're looking great.
Speaker 5: If he comes back, hey all right.
Speaker 6: If he doesn't, who gives a crap whatever, Because you
Speaker 6: feel good about the rest of your team, You feel
Speaker 6: good about those on either side of the football.
Speaker 5: The Colts had to have somebody.
Speaker 6: You jump in here, and that's somebody, and Keenan Allen
Speaker 6: made the most sense. The Coats used to be able
Speaker 6: to play from that particular angle. It's just been a
Speaker 6: while since they have. But it was a must have.
Speaker 6: It was a must recognize and that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 6: Keenan Allen thirty four years of age. How legit of
Speaker 6: an option do you believe he can be? I believe
Speaker 6: the average was in the neighborhood of eighty six catches
Speaker 6: over the past five years and a year ago eighty
Speaker 6: one with the chargers. So the dude falls out of
Speaker 6: bed catching the ball. But Kenny maintain that pace here.
Speaker 6: I saw my chapel sit this out a little bit earlier.
Speaker 6: The most catches by a wide receiver is thirty four
Speaker 6: years of age or older. Caleb Zuber is in the
Speaker 6: next room trying to figure out who I sound like today?
Speaker 6: Do I sound better? Do I sound worse in the
Speaker 6: first five and a half minutes? Do I sound better
Speaker 6: or worse than yesterday? Believe me, if it's critical, I
Speaker 6: can take it.
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 4: No, you sound about the same. So we might need
Speaker 4: to get that Jason Hammer Doctor's order.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I do a little bit of that hour.
Speaker 6: I had Hammers out, so I had to go by myself. Yeah,
Speaker 6: doctor Hammer is.
Speaker 4: Out, Doctor Hamer, What do.
Speaker 5: You think Nigel was so hell? I had to go
Speaker 5: do it myself.
Speaker 4: What do you think doctor Hammer? Like, what what does
Speaker 4: he oversee?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what that is stars with the G
Speaker 6: sometimes hard to pronounce in southern Indiana they say gene
Speaker 6: instead of guy.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's probably where he is.
Speaker 6: So give me see if you can name any of
Speaker 6: the one, two, three, four, five most catches by wide
Speaker 6: receivers thirty four years of age or older.
Speaker 4: Is this in the last certain amount of years?
Speaker 6: This well, it goes all the way back to nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety five. And this is again credit Mike Chapel for
Speaker 6: this that I saw on the social media platform X
Speaker 6: a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jerry Rice has gotta be.
Speaker 5: One of them. Boom, Jerry Rice is on there. One
Speaker 5: oweight um.
Speaker 6: Um. It was just in the Hall of Fame. Just
Speaker 6: inducted into the Hall of Fame this past weekend.
Speaker 5: There was a ball boy back in the day.
Speaker 6: Became a pass fierce pass catcher who.
Speaker 5: Moe and Curly would have been.
Speaker 6: He makes the trio Larry Larry fitzger Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: Larry Fitz Jerry Rice right a former. Once upon a time,
Speaker 6: his late coach Buddy Ryan said, well, all he does
Speaker 6: is catch touchdown passes.
Speaker 4: So he's a Philadelphia Eagle.
Speaker 6: Former most probably most notably making his mark with the Vikings.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, on the other side of Randy Moss.
Speaker 4: Oh Chris Carter.
Speaker 5: Chris Carter, And this is true too.
Speaker 6: In nineteen eighty seven, I think it was eighty six
Speaker 6: or eighty seven, caught a touchdown pass for Ohio State
Speaker 6: from Jim Carsondos, the quarterback.
Speaker 5: I was in the end.
Speaker 6: Zone at the time at Memorial Stadium in Bloomington. Caught
Speaker 6: a touchdown pass. And that was back when they had
Speaker 6: a chain link fence that separated the crowd in the
Speaker 6: end zone from the end zone and the players itself.
Speaker 6: He did a and I'm assuming it was eighty six
Speaker 6: or eighty seven because this would have been the reason
Speaker 6: why he did it, the peewee Herman dance. After he
Speaker 6: caught the touchdown pass from Jim Carsados and spiked it
Speaker 6: and it came right to me doing wow, and I
Speaker 6: get it. You had to give it back. Came right
Speaker 6: to me. He did the pewee Herman dance, and he
Speaker 6: did that, and Spike did it.
Speaker 5: He came right to me.
Speaker 6: Jim Casado's to Chris Carter. And then you have two
Speaker 6: former Colts also in this category, and again credit Mike
Speaker 6: Chappell for that information.
Speaker 5: One is in the Hall of Fame, the other everybody
Speaker 5: believes should be on the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: It's actually coaching up the group of wide receivers Reggie
Speaker 6: wayns one and Marvin Harrison. Yeah, so that's your group
Speaker 6: right there.
Speaker 5: Seriously, though, you don't have to have that level.
Speaker 6: That'd be great if Keenan Allen supplied that level, but
Speaker 6: you had to have somebody else. You had to have
Speaker 6: somebody else that was fall back, somebody else that wasn't
Speaker 6: DJ Montgomery, somebody else that wasn't you know, Chase Claypool
Speaker 6: or or Josh Reynolds or any of these dudes that
Speaker 6: they brought in. You gotta have somebody else. So somebody
Speaker 6: else that is a well he's on this team because
Speaker 6: he made it on special teams.
Speaker 5: Well, my ass was special teams.
Speaker 6: You got to worry about somebody being a thread out
Speaker 6: there that you can scheme, you can coach up against
Speaker 6: and have a plan because he is good enough that
Speaker 6: you have this person in mind. Again, I'm not suggesting
Speaker 6: he's going to be Jerry Rice, but you had to
Speaker 6: have that. And the best part about it is it
Speaker 6: does fit, the shoe does fit. It's like weird with
Speaker 6: Andre Johnson. He kind of wondered if the shoe fit.
Speaker 6: And there's really no reason as to why I'm making
Speaker 6: the comparison here, but a lot of you have suggested, well.
Speaker 5: Remember when they did that. Well, I've remember when they've.
Speaker 6: Done a lot of things. But the only compelling reason
Speaker 6: as to why I would look at this at all negatively.
Speaker 6: And again, most of it is positive because it was
Speaker 6: a have to, But the only negative is because it's
Speaker 6: a haf to because it's not like the rams. You go, well,
Speaker 6: this guy can play or come back, or unretire or
Speaker 6: stay retired or do whatever. This guy wants to continue
Speaker 6: to run drills and be shown in videos. If he
Speaker 6: comes back, that's great, But if he doesn't, that's also great.
Speaker 5: That's I think what you want.
Speaker 6: Those are the situations where you want to be making
Speaker 6: decisions like this from you know, not decisions as they
Speaker 6: made late in the season to say, well, this guy
Speaker 6: hadn't played in four years and he's a grandpa. Let's
Speaker 6: go ahead and pull him off the couch and then
Speaker 6: he's going to be our starting quarterback. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 6: playing with an advantage. But you're doing something that you
Speaker 6: absolutely positively had to do, no doubt. Elvis says, fire
Speaker 6: Caleb for not figuring out Larry. No, that was tough,
Speaker 6: though he don't know anything about the three stages. I'm
Speaker 6: I agree, that's even out of my rage demographic kinda.
Speaker 4: I deserve to be fired for that.
Speaker 6: There used to be a place now and there still
Speaker 6: are maybe a handful, and mostly you can find them
Speaker 6: in gas stations. Do you ever go to Noble Romans
Speaker 6: pizza place? No, Noble Romans, that's not part of your
Speaker 6: don't like. We grew up a lot of us out there,
Speaker 6: and I think the first one was down in Bloomington
Speaker 6: off of Third Street. But Noble Romans, and there may
Speaker 6: still be one. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 6: over off of tenth Street. Tenth Street over by Ben
Speaker 6: Davis West Side. But a dine in Noble Romans. You
Speaker 6: would go in there, true story, and you would watch
Speaker 6: them throw the dough up, and you know, they'd have
Speaker 6: a little step and you can watch in the window
Speaker 6: and they're making you know, the pizza dough and all that.
Speaker 6: But they would always have on a loop the Three
Speaker 6: Stooges show one, and you'd go in there and you'd
Speaker 6: order whatever your Sicilian pizza was or whatever Noble Romans
Speaker 6: pizza was, and you would have a constant loop of
Speaker 6: the Three Stooges. Yeah, there were Larry Mo and Curly,
Speaker 6: but you also had Shimp that was sometimes in there,
Speaker 6: and then the really bad ones had Joe. Joe looked
Speaker 6: like he was probably doing your taxes back in nineteen
Speaker 6: thirty seven. Yeah, you had like three different ones that
Speaker 6: played or had the substitute for Curly back in the day.
Speaker 4: So why was that the show that they I have
Speaker 4: no idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird. I don't know. It was just kind
Speaker 5: of the thing back back in the eighties. It was.
Speaker 5: It was weird, so kind of the thing.
Speaker 6: It's funny back when I started going to back, you know,
Speaker 6: with the fake and then started really going to the bars.
Speaker 6: In those situations, they would put in on different televisions
Speaker 6: I'm assuming at the time have different VCRs where you
Speaker 6: would plug in great eighties movies and it would roll
Speaker 6: around the bar. It'd be a different eighties movie, a
Speaker 6: different you know, fun loving.
Speaker 5: Movie of some sort. Everywhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and now obviously all this is piped in you
Speaker 6: can do whatever you want a.
Speaker 5: Lot different.
Speaker 6: Meantime of the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. You guys
Speaker 6: ask for it every single year, and we deliver from
Speaker 6: both the Colts Radio network and of course the preseason
Speaker 6: television broadcast. It's the former NFL coach and most notably,
Speaker 6: our good friend Rick Venturi joins us.
Speaker 5: Hello, Rick, how are you?
Speaker 3: What do you say? Good friend? How you doing? You
Speaker 3: are the busiest man in show business, I'll tell you
Speaker 3: that and the best. So good to be on with you. Man.
Speaker 6: Well, people ask me wherever I go. You got to
Speaker 6: get Rick on? When's Rick coming on? What's the story on?
Speaker 5: Rick?
Speaker 6: And you know what, We've decided to put you on
Speaker 6: here today with a good one in mind. Let's say,
Speaker 6: for example, yesterday we would have this news today had
Speaker 6: you been on with me.
Speaker 5: But today we could implement.
Speaker 6: A little dialogue regarding Keenan Allen, the veteran thirty four
Speaker 6: year old wide receiver with the Colts allegen reportedly being
Speaker 6: signed today. What does he bring to the table, at
Speaker 6: least from your angle for this Colts offense moving forward
Speaker 6: this season?
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, I think we all kind
Speaker 3: of felt this was an inevitability that it was just
Speaker 3: a matter of when it was really going to happen.
Speaker 3: I think he's a really good fit for two reasons,
Speaker 3: I think, and I'll get into it here when I
Speaker 3: get into the evaluation, but I think that he fits
Speaker 3: and he kind of fills the bill for what for
Speaker 3: the things that Pittman did. He they're not exactly the same,
Speaker 3: but they function in very much the same way. You know,
Speaker 3: he's he's got a back relationship with Steichens, so he's
Speaker 3: going to be an immediate fit and he'll be up
Speaker 3: to speed in no time. I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: question about that. What he brings to you, First of all,
Speaker 3: he brings reputation, and he's a big body. Received reputation
Speaker 3: means a lot, believe it or not, because even when
Speaker 3: you're slipping a little, and even when you're up in age,
Speaker 3: teams tend to respect you, tend to commit people to you,
Speaker 3: and tend to play you like you did as a rookie.
Speaker 3: Ted Marchibrod he used to say, if you get a
Speaker 3: reputation in the NFL to be an early riser, damn,
Speaker 3: you can sleep till noon. And there's there's something to that,
Speaker 3: and so I think he brings kind of a respect
Speaker 3: to your offense and a respect to the position. You know,
Speaker 3: when you when you really look at him, you know, he's,
Speaker 3: like I said, big body. He's always been a big, high,
Speaker 3: high volume catcher. You know, he's got you know, a
Speaker 3: way all over a thousand catches in the league, and
Speaker 3: he's got seventy touchdowns. So he's been really effective around
Speaker 3: the around the red zone. He's not a fast guy,
Speaker 3: you know. He does it more with size, range and smarts. Okay,
Speaker 3: very much like Mike. Mike wasn't a Mike wasn't a
Speaker 3: real you know, real fast guy either. He you know,
Speaker 3: he's never been fast, so it's really not a big
Speaker 3: big factor. He's been good in situations where size and
Speaker 3: experience matter more than speed. Been really good on third down,
Speaker 3: particularly on those third and money downs that four to seven,
Speaker 3: you know, which is kind of fifty to fifty who
Speaker 3: has the advantage. He's been good in those situations. Been
Speaker 3: really good in the red zone again, those areas where
Speaker 3: speed and twitch aren't really that important, where you're looking
Speaker 3: for for the size in the in the big body range. Again,
Speaker 3: he's going to catch a lot of balls, not going
Speaker 3: to have not going to have a lot of yak or.
Speaker 3: He's not a creative guy again, very much like Mike. Mike,
Speaker 3: you know, caught a bunch of volume and wasn't in
Speaker 3: the top one hundred in terms of yards per catch.
Speaker 3: I mean, people don't realize that, but he doesn't. He's
Speaker 3: not gonna he's not going to stretch the feel. But
Speaker 3: even at thirty four, he's gonna give us, I think
Speaker 3: situational play that you need opposite Pierce. I do think
Speaker 3: we still have to mix doing in there on the
Speaker 3: outside because I think we need to be able to
Speaker 3: stretch the field away from Pierce and not to say
Speaker 3: how important Pierce is. My goodness, we got to have
Speaker 3: him back because if you don't have him back, then
Speaker 3: they're gonna sit on you. They're gonna sit on War
Speaker 3: and they're gonna sit on Allen, and they'll sit on
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor. So you know, I'll be really happy when
Speaker 3: I see him. I know the reports are good, but
Speaker 3: I'll be happy when I see him working out.
Speaker 5: With my own eyes.
Speaker 6: Well is Ray Venturi of course from the preseason TV
Speaker 6: and with us on the Colt pre game huddle and
Speaker 6: on the Postgame Show now too, which is absolutely incredible stuff.
Speaker 6: He joins us on the Eddy Moore Automotive Group potline.
Speaker 5: I mentioned this this way.
Speaker 6: There's no negativity surrounding the signing of Keenan Allen at all.
Speaker 5: The only thing that I.
Speaker 6: Can view is I would rather, and I think everybody
Speaker 6: would rather the Colts one of these days again be
Speaker 6: like the Rams. I'll give you a great example, like
Speaker 6: Aaron Donald. This guy can jack around, I can retire,
Speaker 6: I can come back. I'm working out, I can come back,
Speaker 6: And it really doesn't make any difference to them. They'll
Speaker 6: be better with them, I'm sure, but they'll be just
Speaker 6: fine without him. But this was a have to situation
Speaker 6: for the Colts and a position where you would rather
Speaker 6: not find yourself in if you were them, right.
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. I mean, and you know
Speaker 3: it isn't that, you know, it isn't the dueling and
Speaker 3: Akina haven't you know, haven't done a decent job. I mean,
Speaker 3: they've they've been solid, they haven't you know, they haven't
Speaker 3: done anything to just absolutely disappoint. But you know, when
Speaker 3: you really look at it, most of Jones's completions in
Speaker 3: training camp really have been inside out. I mean they've
Speaker 3: really been inside out. They've been to Warren, they've been
Speaker 3: to Downs, a lot of throws to the backs, very
Speaker 3: very little production on the outside. And of course, you know,
Speaker 3: without Pierce, you've lost your deep threat, you know, and
Speaker 3: then you've lost your really number two outside and so yeah,
Speaker 3: to put it mildly, you know, it can only make
Speaker 3: us better.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rick Venturia with us, Daniel Jones. So there is
Speaker 6: so much that has been mentioned about the progress and
Speaker 6: being in a position that not a lot of people
Speaker 6: felt other than Daniel Jones, I guess and the Colts
Speaker 6: moving forward here to be ready for the start of
Speaker 6: the season. But really, the proof is going to be
Speaker 6: when guys are really coming after you with a reason
Speaker 6: and a focus. How do you feel about that? For example,
Speaker 6: let's fast forward to week number one. Do you feel
Speaker 6: that everything is going to be back to what we
Speaker 6: witness basically through the first eight weeks of the season.
Speaker 6: But are you still kind of sitting back and just
Speaker 6: waiting to see how he responds when things do get
Speaker 6: real in week one?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, I would say that he is the you know,
Speaker 3: and this is with my own eyes, I would say
Speaker 3: that he has been the most encouraging part of this
Speaker 3: first three weeks in training camp, without question, because if
Speaker 3: you didn't know he ever had an injury, okay, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't know it by watching him out there today. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, his throwing is as good as it's ever been.
Speaker 3: I would say, even better than it was a year ago,
Speaker 3: more accurate, more confident, and you know he hasn't he
Speaker 3: hasn't lost much moving. I mean, Shane runs those bootlegs
Speaker 3: all day. He does that all day. He's had two
Speaker 3: or three occasions where he's had to add lib and
Speaker 3: get out of the pocket, and you know he's busted
Speaker 3: out of there, and I mean he's very close. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he's exactly where he was, but there's
Speaker 3: not much of a drop off when you watch these practices. Now,
Speaker 3: obviously you made it. You're making a good point, John.
Speaker 3: He you know these are measured. Practices are measured. You
Speaker 3: kind of are always a little bit under control. And
Speaker 3: so we won't the only caveat right now. He looks good,
Speaker 3: he's very encouraging to me. I'm ready to go with him,
Speaker 3: but we will not know. We will not know. Just
Speaker 3: like Buckner, you don't know until the first flying. You know,
Speaker 3: you get jacked up a little bit, you get compressed
Speaker 3: in there sometimes a big hit where you're stretching, so
Speaker 3: that that's still to be determined. We won't know till
Speaker 3: the thirteenth.
Speaker 6: Would you expect him to be utilized because it looked
Speaker 6: as if that they found something before he was compromised
Speaker 6: with injury between he and Shaneestyke, and they had found
Speaker 6: something that clearly he had not had.
Speaker 5: Over the course of his career with the Giants.
Speaker 6: Maybe there was a point in time, a couple of
Speaker 6: moments when he had something, but for the most part
Speaker 6: he did not. Did they find something and would you
Speaker 6: expect some similarities to the high volume of offense we
Speaker 6: saw with him to start the season basically the first
Speaker 6: eight weeks of the season this year, compared to a
Speaker 6: lot of people suggesting, well maybe this was a flash
Speaker 6: in the pan. Is this something between coach and quarterback
Speaker 6: that you believe actually will work again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely symbiotic. I mean, they definitely on the
Speaker 3: same page. He's very cerebral, you know, Stiching demands that
Speaker 3: both pre snap post snap. He demands you getting out
Speaker 3: of bad place. Into good plays, making decisions, and they're
Speaker 3: on the same page. I mean they're on the same
Speaker 3: wavelength every bit. From a mental standpoint, I think the
Speaker 3: other thing that Shane did a good job with him
Speaker 3: is moving him, not predetermined runs or or even calls
Speaker 3: that are runs to be runs. Where where he did
Speaker 3: a good job with him is moving that pocket, moving it,
Speaker 3: moving him around, getting him outside where he's got good vision,
Speaker 3: where you can get that ball off quick, get a
Speaker 3: lot of easy completions into the flat on those bootlegs
Speaker 3: and those crossing patterns. And what he what he was
Speaker 3: able to do constantly is getting him off to a
Speaker 3: good start. And there isn't a quarterback alive that doesn't
Speaker 3: thrive and gain momentum by what you do early. So
Speaker 3: I think that's there. He's thrown extremely well out of
Speaker 3: the pocket because our receiver core is not where, you know,
Speaker 3: where it really needs to be. There's not a lot
Speaker 3: of separation on the outside, so he's done a lot
Speaker 3: of tight window throwing inside. You know, they figured every
Speaker 3: which way to get the ball to warn, which they should,
Speaker 3: you know, downs in possession in the slot, so you know,
Speaker 3: I would say that you know, you have every reason
Speaker 3: to believe that they should get off to a good
Speaker 3: start and he should be fine. I would say this
Speaker 3: you and I've said this will be the second time
Speaker 3: I say it. In order for them to function at
Speaker 3: the speed and at the level of it they did
Speaker 3: early last year, Pierce has to be there. Pierce has
Speaker 3: to be there. He is a huge part of the
Speaker 3: overall picture. If you don't stretch the field with speed
Speaker 3: and the ability to get deep and get on top
Speaker 3: of people, and we all know Pierce has led the
Speaker 3: league the last two years and yards per catch, But
Speaker 3: if you don't have that, you will have what you
Speaker 3: have in the last seven weeks of the season when
Speaker 3: the defense collapsed. Jt went from the eighth tenth game
Speaker 3: of the season where he led the league in rushing
Speaker 3: by two hundred yards, let it in scoring, did not
Speaker 3: gain one hundred yards in the last seven and it
Speaker 3: was no fault of his own. It's just that when
Speaker 3: the defense do not respect you wide and deep and
Speaker 3: you can't push the ball down there, then they're gonna squash.
Speaker 3: They're gonna play nine guys inside the numbers, and they're
Speaker 3: gonna stop both Warren and Taylor because the same defenses
Speaker 3: stop both of those guys. The guys you got to
Speaker 3: be able to get to the ball to So I'm
Speaker 3: putting the caveat as far as the overall start, Pierce
Speaker 3: better be there and be there full killed.
Speaker 6: Are you confident that he will be in week number
Speaker 6: one or are you a bit skeptical about that?
Speaker 3: You know what, I just see what I see today.
Speaker 3: When he's out there, I'll be really thrilled. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen him out there yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's how a lot of people feel right there.
Speaker 6: It's just like Greg and I were talking about this
Speaker 6: a little bit earlier, the Keenan Allen was inevitable and
Speaker 6: I don't think that was impactful regarding their thought at
Speaker 6: all regarding Alec Pierce. That was just something they made
Speaker 6: that move today just because regardless, you needed to make
Speaker 6: that move.
Speaker 3: Oh, I believe that totally. I like I said, I
Speaker 3: said that, I use the same term. I thought there
Speaker 3: was an inevitability to Alan. I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: question about it. And you know, one of the main
Speaker 3: reasons on that is the familiarity with stychen coaches are
Speaker 3: like that they want when they bring somebody in, they
Speaker 3: want want somebody that's in their comfort zone. They want
Speaker 3: somebody that they believe in know how to use. And
Speaker 3: you know that's why I said that was a good fit.
Speaker 3: Now it's even more important. I mean, it's even more important,
Speaker 3: although it doesn't solve the issue I talked about because
Speaker 3: he Alan doesn't stretch the field. You got to remember, now,
Speaker 3: Allen is a possession receiver. Okay, he's not. He's not
Speaker 3: a guy that stretches the field. And really, other than Doling,
Speaker 3: we don't have anybody that does that except except Alan.
Speaker 6: Rick Van Jerry's on the anymore automatic group potline. You
Speaker 6: mentioned comfort zone, and you and I kind of discussed this.
Speaker 6: You just, oh, by the way, mentioned it on the
Speaker 6: coach pregame huddle on Thursday Anthony Richardson Senior before that
Speaker 6: New England game.
Speaker 5: You know, at some.
Speaker 6: Point you kind of wonder why he wouldn't be utilized
Speaker 6: in kind of a gadgetary Taysom Hill type of format.
Speaker 6: And I think we both understand the reason why because
Speaker 6: this is with the head coach. But is that something
Speaker 6: you still question, especially when he shows signs as he
Speaker 6: did on Thursday in that preseason game number one of
Speaker 6: hit or miss being able to add a little bit
Speaker 6: of something that otherwise you would not get simply because
Speaker 6: you don't try to utilize him in that capacity.
Speaker 3: I'll never understand it, be honest with you. If you're
Speaker 3: asking me personally, I'll never understand it. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think I said the most encouraging thing in training camp
Speaker 3: has been Danny Jones. The most encouraging thing on last
Speaker 3: Thursday night was AAR five. There isn't any question about it.
Speaker 3: After the first miss layup, you know, the ball kareemed
Speaker 3: off the guy's hands on interception. I'll put it on
Speaker 3: him better ball security, obviously, but he hit ten of eleven.
Speaker 3: It is about the best I've ever seen him. Once
Speaker 3: he got going, once he settled down, it was about
Speaker 3: the best I've ever seen him with points in the pocket.
Speaker 3: I mean he read it. He stood in there and
Speaker 3: he was not like he was protected that well. He
Speaker 3: compact delivery was accurate, the ball spunk coming out of there,
Speaker 3: I mean, he was on it in that two minute drill,
Speaker 3: and you know, and he flashed the runs. I mean,
Speaker 3: we know when he comes around in that sweep, he
Speaker 3: looks like a tailback. He ran that zone read he
Speaker 3: was out the gate so fast, your head will swim.
Speaker 3: And he's a much better athlete than Taysom Hill. I
Speaker 3: just I think that there's a spot for him. I
Speaker 3: never wanted to get rid of him ever, ever on
Speaker 3: this rookie contract, and you know, he's been a victim
Speaker 3: of circumstances. He didn't play. I mean, when you drafted
Speaker 3: him fourth okay, with only thirteen starts, you had to
Speaker 3: know that you weren't going to get a polished guy
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage with experience like a Peyton
Speaker 3: Manning or Drew Brees. That stuff only comes in time.
Speaker 3: He's a very capable gun. Then he gets hurt. He
Speaker 3: only plays fifteen games, but he's eight and seven and
Speaker 3: in those fifteen games, so it's not like he can't
Speaker 3: help you win. And to me, you know, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I just believe if he would have been
Speaker 3: around the last seven games after the freak accident, we
Speaker 3: would have come out of it better. I really believe that.
Speaker 3: I'm still a little bit of a believer. I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people aren't, but I am. And I
Speaker 3: would definitely, I would definitely have packages for him because
Speaker 3: he you know, he runs like a running back. He
Speaker 3: is special and you know, and the threat of the
Speaker 3: pass is there. And then if in fact, if in
Speaker 3: fact something happened to Danny, you go back and you
Speaker 3: play college football with him. I mean, a coach has
Speaker 3: to take the offense to the kid. You can't. You
Speaker 3: can't ask somebody to do something that they're not capable
Speaker 3: of doing. That. That's part of coaching X and O's
Speaker 3: is one thing. But you have to be able to
Speaker 3: coach to your talent, maximize your strengths, and minimize your liabilities.
Speaker 3: And you know, I just think that really impressed. I
Speaker 3: hope he can stack I think I hope he can
Speaker 3: stack performances. What do he look to me?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: John? He just played relaxed in that pocket, which I
Speaker 3: haven't seen him. It's it's like the old Joplin line
Speaker 3: in me and Bobby McGee. You know, freedom's just another
Speaker 3: word for nothing left to lose, and he he kind
Speaker 3: of played like, I've got nothing to lose. I'm going
Speaker 3: to come out here and play my game. And he
Speaker 3: did good at it.
Speaker 6: That's what I was going to mention. So what does
Speaker 6: this coaching staff have to lose? And I gather that
Speaker 6: to me, the coach in Shane Styke and just does
Speaker 6: not trust him.
Speaker 5: What the football Okay, but what.
Speaker 6: Would this staff, what would this team have to lose
Speaker 6: considering the circumstances of you know what the hell in
Speaker 6: some moments might as well because the one thing that
Speaker 6: Shane stike In does he lives in a world of
Speaker 6: gamesmanship and gadgetry. And you know that tug on you
Speaker 6: lot gadgetary with Tyler Warree, So why not with Richardson?
Speaker 5: I mean, hell, if he's on the team, why.
Speaker 3: Not Well, I don't understand it. And to me, there
Speaker 3: isn't any question that he should be the backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean in my book. And you know, it'll be
Speaker 3: a little bit different this week. I think Riley'll rally
Speaker 3: and he'll have the first half of the game, and
Speaker 3: the first half of the game he'll be playing with
Speaker 3: better players, and then ar will be holding on to
Speaker 3: his hold on to his button the fourth quarter. But
Speaker 3: I'm totally with you. I mean, you know, first of all,
Speaker 3: or Sean Payton, who probably is the best offensive mind
Speaker 3: in football, he was willing to do it with Taysoon
Speaker 3: Hill and he had a Hall of Fame quarterback and
Speaker 3: Drew Brees. I mean don't give me the argument like
Speaker 3: we don't want to take Danny off the field. You
Speaker 3: only do it in specialized situations. You do it as
Speaker 3: a changeup. And the other thing that it does han't
Speaker 3: been a defensive quarter for twenty seven years. You have
Speaker 3: to work on that stuff. It splits your practice time,
Speaker 3: you know, and that in itself is an advantage. So
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, they got to do what they
Speaker 3: got to do, and they got to do what they
Speaker 3: believe in. But at the same time, I do think
Speaker 3: that you really, in my world, you don't just judge
Speaker 3: coaches on x's and no's. You judge them on the
Speaker 3: development of players, the adaptations in games and how you
Speaker 3: maximize your talent.
Speaker 6: Well, and I just mentioned with the staff and this season,
Speaker 6: you know, I know that the common term nationally is
Speaker 6: used is well the cults are all in because they
Speaker 6: have to be all in. It doesn't really feel financially
Speaker 6: nor just in terms of trying absolutely everything that this
Speaker 6: team is all in. I mean, sure, if you bring
Speaker 6: Grandpa off the couch in December, then I guess you're
Speaker 6: trying a little bit of everything. But that was circumstance
Speaker 6: more than anything else. So I would just think, especially
Speaker 6: with a very inventive guy like Steichen, that that ploys
Speaker 6: like this would not completely be off the table, but
Speaker 6: evidently with Richardson it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we'll see.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a there's a lot of time left.
Speaker 3: I don't think in my book that that. I don't
Speaker 3: think they saw that performance from Richardson coming. I I
Speaker 3: kind of think in a way, Uh, you know, Richardson's
Speaker 3: becoming afterthought, he is that uh, and he won't be
Speaker 3: here and this and that and and all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: Now with a performance like that, I think you have
Speaker 3: to recalibrate.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just to me, what's again, other than the
Speaker 6: lack of trust, which I'm just going to gather that's
Speaker 6: that's what all this is.
Speaker 5: And I get it. I get it.
Speaker 6: If you're the coach and you know, you saw you
Speaker 6: were doing the TV, you saw the head go down
Speaker 6: when he fumbled, and it was, you know, kind of
Speaker 6: a product of the situation that he'd been through before.
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's it.
Speaker 6: But when you're supposed to be all in, I guess,
Speaker 6: if he's going to be on this team, why not
Speaker 6: in this case be all in? It is our next
Speaker 6: guest of the Andy Moro aut a motive croup pole line,
Speaker 6: the color analyst. The former Coats tight end Charles R.
Speaker 6: Buckle is a part of that bad boy and he
Speaker 6: is with us now. Good afternoon, Charles. How are you hey, Jamb?
Speaker 1: How you doing that?
Speaker 6: We just went all in for an hour with Rick Venturry.
Speaker 6: Now we'll work with you a little bit on it too.
Speaker 6: And obviously you played on the offensive side of the
Speaker 6: football while in the NFL. What does the guy like
Speaker 6: Keenan Allen bring to the table for a team that
Speaker 6: certainly has a quality need in that wide receiving category
Speaker 6: is upart of training camp and going into the reg
Speaker 6: of the season here.
Speaker 2: He is a productive guy who has just been Jamb.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can remember him coming out of Cow
Speaker 2: you know, just the big the ability to make plays. It's,
Speaker 2: you know, Michael Pittman junior, only older, you know, and
Speaker 2: with more fetches. You look at what he's been able
Speaker 2: to do over the course of.
Speaker 1: His career is just phenomenal.
Speaker 2: When you look he basically he gets up out of
Speaker 2: bed and he's eighty and open nine hundred yards almost.
Speaker 2: So I think when you have a guy like that
Speaker 2: that can make place for you, that's what you want
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 6: And that was necessary even even with let's just believe
Speaker 6: that Alean Pearce will make it back in week number one.
Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure if he will.
Speaker 6: But even if everything is as going according to plan,
Speaker 6: you had to have this guy, and a lot of
Speaker 6: people suggest to me, well you lose Michael Pittman Jr.
Speaker 6: He goes to Pittsburgh now and really he didn't put
Speaker 6: up a lot of big numbers and heavy results, but
Speaker 6: he was still a guy that you had to when
Speaker 6: you're a game plan and you had to say, well,
Speaker 6: this guy can do this, this guy can do that,
Speaker 6: and this adds to a room of guys that certainly
Speaker 6: solidifies that. With Keenan Allen, I don't know what he's
Speaker 6: going to be able to deliver, but he certainly solidifies
Speaker 6: and covers a need that the Colts had to ultimately address.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the other thing is look, I kind
Speaker 2: of felt like people were looking at it, and I
Speaker 2: still think it's important. If you think about Nick Westbrook Akine,
Speaker 2: I think he still plays a role. I think people
Speaker 2: can't forget about him. But LaQuan trailwell, you kind of
Speaker 2: know what you're getting out of la Quan and he
Speaker 2: hasn't had anything over the last few seasons other than
Speaker 2: great special teams for the Colts. So I think this
Speaker 2: makes sense from that perspective of bringing a guy like
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen on board. Who hey man, last year, he
Speaker 2: still was playing at a high level, and that's what
Speaker 2: you want. And I think it helps your room when
Speaker 2: you have a guy like Josh Downs, who's now in
Speaker 2: this fourth year, you've got, you know, other young guys.
Speaker 2: Ashton Dolan, you have him as well, and you know
Speaker 2: he's a great special teams player, but you could also
Speaker 2: give you some things on the offensive end. So I
Speaker 2: think this is a good move for the Colts, and
Speaker 2: I'm surprised it's taking this long.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I'm going to get back to the Colts in just
Speaker 6: a second. Charles Arbuckle from the Radio Network. The former
Speaker 6: Coats side ends on the Andy Mora at Amni Group
Speaker 6: pod line at least sitting here right now, and we'll
Speaker 6: find out once the season officially gets underway.
Speaker 5: But how are you sizing up?
Speaker 6: You think it's going to be a lot of what
Speaker 6: we witnessed a year ago with the Jaguars stepping up
Speaker 6: and then obviously the Texans. Texans had great moments but
Speaker 6: didn't live up to the expectations that you thought. And
Speaker 6: then cam Ward and the Titans and year number two.
Speaker 6: How do you size up the AFC South from your
Speaker 6: vantage point right now?
Speaker 2: Charles Well, I mean, I saw those Texans live and
Speaker 2: they're legit on defense. If they can get anything from C. J. Stroud,
Speaker 2: that offense gets better. We didn't see them with Nicocollins,
Speaker 2: so that's another thing. You know, you just look at
Speaker 2: the explosiveness that they have on that team from the
Speaker 2: Texans perspective, and that defense man, interior, lineman, exterior, their secondary.
Speaker 2: They are just really gonna be hard. And then I
Speaker 2: think Jacksonville is after them just because of the maturation
Speaker 2: of Trevor Lawrence. And then the Colts fall in there
Speaker 2: at third. Right now, I'm just on paper Colts could
Speaker 2: make that move. But think about how long it's taking
Speaker 2: the Colts to beat Jacksonville down at.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville right when's the last time that happened. I was
Speaker 1: in high school.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, I'm just I'm exaggerating, but it's been
Speaker 2: a tough, tough matchup with them, So you know, you
Speaker 2: go one in one generally every year, and you get
Speaker 2: the oh you get the Titans, and you can win
Speaker 2: both of those. But you're gonna They're gonna be in
Speaker 2: a dog fight now because you've got a better quarterback.
Speaker 2: And I think they're gonna be much better on defense
Speaker 2: this year. And I'm hearing some great things out of
Speaker 2: their young receiver out of Ohio State, Carnell Tate. So
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna battle you, and I think cam
Speaker 2: Ward's gonna get better.
Speaker 1: So right now, you got to look at the Texans.
Speaker 2: You gotta anoint them. Jacksonville has to be second, in
Speaker 2: the Colts third. Now that's just on paper, and I
Speaker 2: hope my paper is wrong, so I can throw it
Speaker 2: away and say the Colts are better than the Jaguars,
Speaker 2: or maybe over extend and over index and be better
Speaker 2: than the Texans.
Speaker 6: Well in charge, you brought up the Texans before anybody
Speaker 6: else within this division. And he brought the d with
Speaker 6: good reason because it is loaded and Demiko Ryans is
Speaker 6: always going to be a defensive lean With that in mind,
Speaker 6: But did CJ. Stroud like evidently he did with some
Speaker 6: fans and some of the NFL crowd out there did
Speaker 6: he lose a little confidence in you as that season
Speaker 6: went along last year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: He lost his fastball, man. I mean, look at Schmes
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh right now, lost two or three miles per
Speaker 2: hour and they're hammering them, right, that's what batters to.
Speaker 2: They adjust, and so he has to now get better
Speaker 2: as a pitcher.
Speaker 1: CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud has to understand of the twenty five year old guy,
Speaker 2: he's still young, that you got to make the plays
Speaker 2: when they're there. And andre Ware, who I know, is
Speaker 2: their their their radio analyst, talks about what he sees
Speaker 2: out of CJ from a quarterback side and he thinks
Speaker 2: he has a lot of potential. He just has to
Speaker 2: reach it and be consistent. And I think so too
Speaker 2: jamb and I think that's going to be interesting this
Speaker 2: year to watch them see how he is early in
Speaker 2: the year and how his makeup is because you think
Speaker 2: about it last year, the Texans started off at three
Speaker 2: and think about how they went on a tear.
Speaker 1: They were the opposite of what the Coats did.
Speaker 2: All those wins late in the year, right in November
Speaker 2: through December, and then they get to the playoffs against
Speaker 2: the Pats and you know, didn't play very well, So
Speaker 2: I think CJ has has an opportunity. When you have
Speaker 2: a defense of a forty six sacks, I'm gonna give him
Speaker 2: fifty rolling out of bed. With the guys they got
Speaker 2: on the outside, with the Neil Hunter and Anderson, They're
Speaker 2: gonna get after quarterbacks. I think they really solid interior
Speaker 2: with their linebackers, but their safeties and cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Man, they play some really good.
Speaker 2: Football, and I think that's what gives you as a
Speaker 2: quarterback the chance to say, Okay, let me not make mistakes,
Speaker 2: let me play consistent ball, be better than fifty seven.
Speaker 2: He has to be better than fifty seven percent passer,
Speaker 2: and he has to protect the football. I'm if I'm
Speaker 2: a coach for them, That's what I'm preaching to him
Speaker 2: all this season. You've got to be better than that,
Speaker 2: and we need you at like five interceptions instead of
Speaker 2: eight late in the year, and then really have a
Speaker 2: horrific game in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: How do you come back from that?
Speaker 2: And that's going to be interesting, and I think everything
Speaker 2: that plays them early is going to challenge him to
Speaker 2: see if he has his mental makeup in the rights
Speaker 2: frame of mind.
Speaker 6: This is Charles Arbuckle, the Culture Radio Network, the former
Speaker 6: Coats tight ends on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
Speaker 6: It seems like we question whether or not we're going
Speaker 6: to see with a healthy Daniel Jones, this connection between
Speaker 6: coach and quarterback as we witness before his injury a
Speaker 6: year ago, which was certainly high level. You saw that
Speaker 6: connection with Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen that went on
Speaker 6: down in Jacksonville. Are we going to see that similar
Speaker 6: connection and formula work offensively for the Jaguars in year
Speaker 6: number two?
Speaker 5: Loaded and they're.
Speaker 6: Going to have a healthy now Travis Hunter. We'll find
Speaker 6: out a little bit more about Brian Thomas Junior being
Speaker 6: for real Parker Washington with somebody that stepped up, But
Speaker 6: is it going to be a next step in what
Speaker 6: we saw in that so called magic formula between quarterback
Speaker 6: and head coach in Jacksonville a year ago.
Speaker 2: I just think Liam Cohen is one of those guys
Speaker 2: like the mcvays of the world, and like you know, Shanahan,
Speaker 2: there's not anybody in the NFL circles that don't talk
Speaker 2: about how well Liam Cohen is. And you know it
Speaker 2: came out of that Viking system. I think and just
Speaker 2: understanding of how to get into a quarterback's head and
Speaker 2: make him play better.
Speaker 1: And I saw man.
Speaker 2: I thought Trevor Lawrence was going to be the next
Speaker 2: coming when I saw him a college I really did.
Speaker 2: I thought Clemson's offense wasn't perfectly suited to you know,
Speaker 2: pro football style, but his ability some of the things
Speaker 2: that he could do, and to see it take this long,
Speaker 2: I think Liam Cohen in year two with Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: only gets better. And I think that's the one thing
Speaker 2: that the Jaguars have to be excited about is having
Speaker 2: a guy that now can help my quarterback become better,
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. We can still sprinkle him in and you
Speaker 2: know he can you know, he can add a little spice.
Speaker 1: Every now and then. I don't want him playing every.
Speaker 2: Down if I'm if I'm a fan of theirs, because
Speaker 2: I think it's just you can't do that.
Speaker 1: But defensively, let's think about this Jaguars defense. We talk
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: About how strong the defense was with the Texans. I
Speaker 2: think we a lot of people sleep on how good
Speaker 2: Jacksonville's defense is, and especially when they play the Colts.
Speaker 1: It's just something about those those horseshoes. Man.
Speaker 2: That gets the Jaguars going, and it seems like, you know,
Speaker 2: they find ways not only against the Colts, but if
Speaker 2: they can do that this year outside of you know,
Speaker 2: the AC South, I think you have another team that's
Speaker 2: going to be if when the Colts win those games
Speaker 2: against the Texans and the Jaguars, which they will do,
Speaker 2: you hope that that that's this year. If you're a
Speaker 2: Colts fan, you're gonna have You're gonna earn that win, right.
Speaker 2: You ain't getting a beginmmy, and it ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: a layup that if you come to the whole, you
Speaker 2: better come hard because that's how the those teams play
Speaker 2: on defense, and that's how they play on offense. And
Speaker 2: I think the pressure that they're putting on Trevor to
Speaker 2: learn and be a better steward of the ball and
Speaker 2: the game is what's going to make that team better
Speaker 2: and we're going to see it in year two.
Speaker 6: So, Charles, coming off the preseason game one, I mentioned
Speaker 6: preseason game two. After the two joint practices with the
Speaker 6: Falcons this week up at drop light of Grant Park
Speaker 6: in Westfield, you got coming up on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 5: Against the Falcons.
Speaker 6: Give me some solid, strong takeaways from that preseason game
Speaker 6: in Foxborough, and then some things that you have to
Speaker 6: tighten up some things that disappointed you a bit about
Speaker 6: this team.
Speaker 2: The turnovers right away disappointed me. Right that was the
Speaker 2: one thing that stood out. You can't play that kind
Speaker 2: of football and not expect to even.
Speaker 1: Be in the game.
Speaker 2: And that's why I flip it to the other side.
Speaker 2: They were fortunate to be in the game. But I
Speaker 2: think the defense played a lot better than we thought.
Speaker 2: I thought the lineback and crew jamb I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be a work in progress.
Speaker 1: And though CJ.
Speaker 2: Allen is healthy this week, so I don't think lou
Speaker 2: is all that upset about not upset about having four
Speaker 2: or five guys that he can rotate and play with
Speaker 2: and use them in situational football. Even if you look
Speaker 2: at Wes Weeks, who's you know, the third teamer right now,
Speaker 2: I thought he played pretty well. I got to give,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of credit to Kate kayten Curry,
Speaker 2: and I think everyone around the organization the program was
Speaker 2: waiting to see how he was going to play. And
Speaker 2: when they put him in that NASCAR package on the inside,
Speaker 2: he was beating guards like they stole something and then
Speaker 2: still taking their lunch money after he beat him at
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. It was just that was good
Speaker 2: to see in the first preseason game. I think the
Speaker 2: other thing is the biggest takeaway for me was Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson flipped it in an end game. He was able
Speaker 2: to play make the first interception wasn't on him, but
Speaker 2: the fumble was him. You slide or you moved them
Speaker 2: off to the left hand. So if he gets knocked
Speaker 2: out to go out about to protect the football. But
Speaker 2: think about how well he played when they win those
Speaker 2: two minute situations both times and still being able to
Speaker 2: calmly get the ball down the field. And I think
Speaker 2: Seth McGowan showed us who he was. That wasn't a fumble.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the officials should have looked at that.
Speaker 2: They weren't pre season form, so they were hot garbage.
Speaker 2: Probably like everything else, they'll get better, But Seth McGowan
Speaker 2: was really, really good and I think we're starting to
Speaker 2: see the makeup of that. And I'll tell you one
Speaker 2: guy on offense that you got to keep an eye on,
Speaker 2: and I hope he's healthy this week is Salen Farmer.
Speaker 2: Jalen Farmer is a nasty dude and he'll come and
Speaker 2: hit you in the mouth. And I think that's one
Speaker 2: thing I wanted to see with the Patriots, who had
Speaker 2: a really good defense.
Speaker 6: Well, kind of curious about and Rick and I talked
Speaker 6: about this last hour with an offensive line that I
Speaker 6: think you liked what they start with. But we know
Speaker 6: this team, if there's anything they've been noted for over
Speaker 6: the years, recently has been being injured, so you could
Speaker 6: expect some compromising due to injury at some point. Is
Speaker 6: the depth on that offensive line there that you like?
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll do this when I look at
Speaker 2: how they are made up. Tony Sperano Junior always seems
Speaker 2: to have them in position, and he's tinkering and he's.
Speaker 1: Moving guys around. He's got guys playing multiple positions.
Speaker 2: I think Dalton Tucker is one guy that has to
Speaker 2: be a good backup. Luke Tanuda showed some good things
Speaker 2: the other night. I mean when you watch them, when
Speaker 2: you watch the film, you're going to see some good,
Speaker 2: you're going to see some bad. But you see Blake
Speaker 2: Friedland as another guy that you know you saw making
Speaker 2: some place. I think offensive line was if they can
Speaker 2: settle on where they want, if Jalen Travis is the
Speaker 2: answer there, or if they move you know, I'm just curious,
Speaker 2: is that the right tackle position, because I think there's
Speaker 2: still some.
Speaker 1: Things you can do and maybe move some things around.
Speaker 2: And when you have a Jalen Farmer that played as
Speaker 2: well as he did, even tho that's the first game,
Speaker 2: I know he's a little nicked up this week, that
Speaker 2: gives you some encouragement to say, Okay, maybe we can
Speaker 2: do a little bit different this week, and if we
Speaker 2: have all our guys healthy, you can see different lineups.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm really going to look for, not
Speaker 2: only in the practices, but in the games, what they
Speaker 2: come out with after the first unit. And so that's
Speaker 2: going to be really interesting. I think to your point,
Speaker 2: you always have to have nine or ten guys, and
Speaker 2: you gotta got one or two guys that can move
Speaker 2: anywhere on the line or at least interior of the line.
Speaker 2: And then one guy that can swing from one tackle
Speaker 2: to the other. That's hard to have, but if you
Speaker 2: have it, that's what makes your team pretty good.
Speaker 6: Like anything you're looking for as far as preseason game two,
Speaker 6: a familiar team. You're going to see him obviously at
Speaker 6: draft light with the joint practice situations, but you saw
Speaker 6: him in Germany that's last season as well. Now you
Speaker 6: know you bring in two and you know pittises a
Speaker 6: quarterback then, but how do you size up what you're
Speaker 6: looking for this preseason Game two with the Falcons and
Speaker 6: the Colts coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2: I want to see the Colts rush against two or
Speaker 2: I don't think Pennis, even if he plays, it won't
Speaker 2: be a lot. But Tula seems to be getting most
Speaker 2: of the snaps in the preseason, so.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them get at the two who
Speaker 1: can get a little antsy. And I also want to see.
Speaker 2: You know, what this offense looks like in week two
Speaker 2: with Riley Leonard. He's going to probably get to start
Speaker 2: the way they've been rotating, I don't know for sure,
Speaker 2: but if he starts, how does he play with the
Speaker 2: front line guys, because he did not play as well
Speaker 2: last week and had a tough scrimmage against the Patriots,
Speaker 2: so it's going to be interesting to see that backup
Speaker 2: quarterback battle again for me. And then I want to
Speaker 2: see the secondary. There were a couple of guys that
Speaker 2: didn't play well and they need a chance to come back.
Speaker 2: If Jonathan Edwards didn't play his best game, Mackay Blackman
Speaker 2: also was being picked on a little bit. I want
Speaker 2: to see them come back because I've seen them play
Speaker 2: well at times, but I didn't see it against the Patriots.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's up a lot of things, certainly to size up,
Speaker 6: and a lot of these things, Charles, we're just just
Speaker 6: simply not going to know. Like the news on Daniel
Speaker 6: Jones all seems to be really positive, but you don't
Speaker 6: really know until you see other dudes that are trying
Speaker 6: to do to you what the other dudes aren't gone
Speaker 6: out when is real?
Speaker 2: That's right, Hey, I tell you two guys on the
Speaker 2: defensive line that Atabarre and just seems like he just
Speaker 2: gets better and better on the interior. And George Gombs,
Speaker 2: I was shocked former walk on you know when he
Speaker 2: started a wide receiver and then he's now playing the
Speaker 2: defensive end and.
Speaker 1: Looking pretty good.
Speaker 2: So those are the kind of things you want to
Speaker 2: look and see. Arden Key will be get I don't
Speaker 2: know how much time he'll get in the game, but
Speaker 2: how will he play against the Falcons. And then the Falcons,
Speaker 2: you know, their defense is pretty dog one good, so
Speaker 2: you have to guard against that. And that's the one
Speaker 2: thing I want to see how this offensive line handles
Speaker 2: that rush from the Falcons.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot gonna be weird too, because like
Speaker 6: any season, it's important to get off to a good start,
Speaker 6: but certainly with this cold seam. You look at that
Speaker 6: early season schedule, they weren't done any favors, and you
Speaker 6: don't want to bury yourself. You don't want to bury
Speaker 6: yourself before two weeks prior to Halloween.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that is that is really crazy, and I
Speaker 2: think that's the part of the game that you want
Speaker 2: to see. You can't control what the schedule gives you,
Speaker 2: but most teams that start oh and two, oh and
Speaker 2: three don't generally tend to make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So you got to get a hot start, you gotta
Speaker 2: start fast. And you're right, the schedule makers didn't do
Speaker 2: Colt much many favors in the first couple of weeks
Speaker 2: of the season.
Speaker 6: Hey, I do want to ask you a quick college
Speaker 6: question number six. The defending national champion Indiana Hoosias. I
Speaker 6: know it probably still seems a little bit weird for
Speaker 6: somebody to say, but it is true. Sixth rank to
Speaker 6: start the season. You agree or disagree? Should they be higher?
Speaker 6: Are they where they need to be?
Speaker 1: Well? I think they should be higher.
Speaker 2: But when you give google me man over there an
Speaker 2: opportunity to get spy see with people, I think that
Speaker 2: helps them, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I absolutely agree, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna tell you now, and he can
Speaker 2: say anything he wants to us, but I can assure
Speaker 2: you that team is going to use that to their
Speaker 2: advantage from the very beginning to throughout the season.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna wear that as a badge of.
Speaker 5: Honor with Yeah, I would completely agree with that.
Speaker 6: All right, Well, we'll track you down and Saturday preseason
Speaker 6: game two. You guys sounded fantastic back on Thursday night
Speaker 6: in Foxborough, and we'll do it more than occasionally over
Speaker 6: the course of the season.
Speaker 5: Charles, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: All right, man, y'all have a good one. Looking forward
Speaker 1: to Charles R.
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