1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: The Pentagon is now threatening to court martial Senator Mark 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Kelly good Now, I don't know if they actually can. 5 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 6 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: You could recall into active duty service and make this happen. 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: Why is this happening? 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's a bigger story. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Great to be here, Good to be with you. Live 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: streaming YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz. Don't forget to subscribe, right, 11 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: make that happen. Let me let me bring this to you. 12 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: This started with a video of such disgusting proportion from 13 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, Senator Alissa Slopkin of Michigan, 14 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: Congressman Jason Crowe, and a host of others, including a 15 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: congresswoman by the name. 16 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: Of Maggie Goodlander. 17 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Maggie Goodlander, who was a foreign policy advisor to Joe 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: Lieberman and John McCain, a law clerk to Merrick Garland 19 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: and Justice Bryer, served on the House Judiciary Committee during 20 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: the first impeachment of Trump. 21 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: And she is a member of Congress. 22 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: You know she's married to Jake Sullivan, the former National 23 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: Security advisor under Biden. You want to talk about somebody 24 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: who knows how to be subversive, it's Maggie Goodlander. Maggie 25 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Goodlander was amongst those who made this video that said, hey, 26 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: active service military, the Trump administration is bad and they're 27 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: putting you in a bad spot, and you do not 28 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: have to follow illegal orders. 29 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 3: You must disobey illegal orders. 30 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: This was, of course, these Democrats pushing the idea that 31 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: Trump should not be able to be in charge of 32 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: the military's commander in chief and you shouldn't listen to him. 33 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: It was undermining the presidency. It was undermining the executive branch. 34 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: It was trying to usurp the duly elected presidents. It 35 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: is obscene. 36 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: A lot of. 37 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: People on your social media feeds and my social media 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: feed have decided that the correct response is what's wrong 39 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: with letting them active military. 40 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: Know what their duty is and know what their rules are. 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: I can't stop people from saying something that ignorantly stupid, 42 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: and I say it exactly that way, because everybody who 43 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: is rational knows what these senators and these members of 44 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: Congress were doing. Everybody the sophistry of they were. 45 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: Just saying, what's the law. 46 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: What's the law, and you don't follow illegal orders. That 47 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: isn't what they were doing. That's what they said. That's 48 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: not what they were saying. Rational people understand what is 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: being what they were saying. People who think that everything 50 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: is a court of law want to go into. 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: What was said. We know better, and so does America. 52 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: And what we saw on Sunday Show after Sunday Show 53 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: after Sunday Show was the ignorance of people like Representative Goodlander, who, 54 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: when asked about this, sounded like a child. 55 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: Take away from your message, make away from. 56 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: You, Alex. 57 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: We love country, we love our constitution. It is our 58 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: job as lawmakers, and especially in this moment, to be 59 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: clear morally, to be clear legally, and simply and clearly 60 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 5: stating what the law says, what the Uniform Code of 61 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: Military Justice says. It's not a crime, it is not treason, 62 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 5: it is not sedition. It is our job, and I 63 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: think it's really important that we do our jobs. 64 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: In this I did not know she also did voiceover 65 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: for Cartoon Network. Now there's nothing I can do about 66 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: her voice, nothing she can do about her voice. She 67 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: certainly does not sound in any way authoritative it happens. 68 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: But does that sound like somebody who's convinced of her position, 69 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: who believes in the strength of her position, or is 70 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: she being a meally mouthed whatever you want to do, 71 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: then say next by trying to skate around what it 72 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: is that she thinks her job is and what she 73 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: says she was saying, when of course that isn't the 74 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: thing that was being said. But she is not the 75 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: only one who was doing this. This is representative Jason Crowe. 76 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 6: Let's get to the content of what you had in 77 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 6: that video you released, because there are also fifteen House 78 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 6: Republicans who are also veterans who released a video, including 79 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 6: a retired three star Marine Corps General Jack Bergman. 80 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Take a listen to this, troops, listen up. Any service member. 81 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Who refuses a lawful order is subject to court martial 82 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: for violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice. 83 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 7: We study what's lawful and what's not lawful, and the 84 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 7: Democrats stunt insinuating that their illegal or unconstitutional orders. 85 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: It's downright dangerous, it is corrosive. 86 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: It is meant to weaken our country and weaken the military. 87 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 6: How do you respond to these allegations from your colleagues 88 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 6: fellow veterans that what you have put out there is 89 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: weakening and corrosive to the military. 90 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 8: Well, these, unfortunately, are some of Trump's core supporters that 91 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 8: are rallying behind the president. 92 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: And they these are fellow members of the military who 93 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: have served with distinction. 94 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden, they're just Trump supporters. I 95 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: did not know we were allowed. 96 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: To dismiss members of the military because they're on one 97 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: side of the aisle or the other. I thought these 98 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: were people who sacrificed everything in service of their country, 99 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: just like you. 100 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: Guess not guess that's not the case. 101 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: I guess when when you're a Republican your service for 102 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: the nation doesn't matter, or you can be as absolutely 103 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: ignorant as Senator Alyssa Slotkin, who when asked about this 104 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: by Martha Roddicks. Oh, I should give the warning right 105 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: now if you're driving hands on ten and two. I know, 106 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: I know the kids say you're supposed to have your 107 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: hands on nine and three because of airbags or something else. 108 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: I'm an old schooler. 109 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: It's ten and two a ride or die. At ten 110 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: and two. That's where the hands go right there until 111 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: you get me. The Jetsons and the truly self flying cars. 112 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: My hands are on ten and two center or LISSI sluckin. 113 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: You've been warned. 114 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 9: Is very clear that no one should follow an illegal order, 115 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 9: But it's very murky when you look at what is 116 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 9: an illegal order, and if you go into morally ethically, 117 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 9: that's a pretty tough thing to look at and say, 118 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 9: how do I navigate this? 119 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: I don't. 120 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 8: I mean, look you going back to Nuremberg right that, Well, 121 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 8: they told me to do it. 122 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: That's why I'm murdered people. Is not an excuse. 123 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 8: If you look at popular culture, there's like you watch 124 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 8: you know a few good men like We have plenty 125 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 8: of examples since World War Two in Vietnam where people 126 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 8: were told to follow illegal orders and they did it 127 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 8: and they were prosecuted for it. 128 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: Your argument, let's just slock. 129 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: Him for making a video usurping the duly elected president 130 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: of the United States, for putting the idea out there 131 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: that the commander in chief should not be listened to 132 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: that he's engaging illegal orders. Is a code read from 133 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Colonel Jessup. Kevin Pollack wouldn't have needed Tom Cruise. He 134 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: could have found you guilty. He could have found you 135 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: guilty and had time to have done grumpy old men three. 136 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't think there was a grumpy old men three. 137 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: There was a grumpy old men and a grumpy old men. 138 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: I don't think there was a third one. The best 139 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: you could do is a few good men. 140 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: You said that Trump was issuing illegal orders. 141 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: Well, tony, they didn't say that. 142 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: What you were saying is Trump issues illegal orders and 143 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: everybody in America saw it, and everybody in America heard it, 144 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: and no one, no one should think that this is okay. 145 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: This brings us to the statement from the Secretary of 146 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: War Pete Hegseth. 147 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: This statement reads. 148 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: That the video made by the seditious six was despicable, reckless, 149 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: and false. Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of 150 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: their commanders undermines every aspect of good order and discipline 151 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: that's accurate. He goes on to state their fullish screeds 152 00:09:54,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: sows doubt and confusion, which only puts our warriors in danger. 153 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: Five of the six individuals in that video do not 154 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: fall under the Department of War jurisdiction. One is CIA, 155 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: and four are former military but not retired, so they 156 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: are no longer subject to the UCMJ. However, Mark Kelly, 157 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: retired Navy commander, is still subject to the Uniform Code of. 158 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: Military Justice, and he knows that. Which brings us. 159 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: To the story about the Pentagon, which is now threatening 160 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: to court martial Senator Mark Kelly. They may call on 161 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Mark Kelly, They may call him back to active duty 162 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: and therefore face court martial proceedings or other administrative actions 163 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The Department saying, quote, 164 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: this matter will be handled in compliance with military law, 165 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: ensuring due process and impartiality. Good good, in every single way. Good. 166 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: I did not serve. I did not serve in the military. 167 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: Someone on social media was saying, you were too afraid, 168 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: and I said, what kind of stupid nonsense is that? 169 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: It is of disappointment in my life, not that I 170 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: didn't serve. 171 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: That my earlier days, my younger. 172 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: Days, were engaged in depression and confusion and sadness kept 173 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: me from a whole bunch of things, and a whole 174 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: bunch of opportunities, and a whole bunch of thoughts of 175 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: what could have been opportunities. Military was never ever in 176 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: the cards for me. Ever, back then, there would have 177 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: been no way to see that one through. There would 178 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: be no capacity for me to handle that. 179 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: That is to. 180 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: Not to my shame, just the reality of what it 181 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: was for me. I know that people joined the military. 182 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: I knew there was a military, Certainly I had parents 183 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: who had no interest in me going down that road 184 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: and never entertained it with me. 185 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: I will tell you exactly what I told my children. 186 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: If you told me you want to join the Navy, 187 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: we'd have a conversation about it. If you told me 188 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: you wanted to join the Army, we'd have a different 189 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: conversation about it. If you told me you wanted to 190 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: join the Marines, we'd have a really different conversation about it. 191 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: These are different worlds than I come from, and you've 192 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: got to understand what it is you're getting into and 193 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: how these things are different, and what it is you're 194 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: signing up for because there is no out, there is 195 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: only through. But I would not have objected. I still 196 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: would not object. The military is better off that they 197 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: didn't have to deal with me. 198 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: I would have been better. 199 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: Off not having such a level of depression in my 200 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: childhood into my early adulthood and having figured it out 201 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: later and found a better way later in life. I 202 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: am just thankful I found a better way. You want 203 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: to call it an excuse, I'm giving you reality. You 204 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: don't want to buy it. I can't do anything about that. 205 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: There were people at a younger age far more equipped 206 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: for what this nation needed than I did. And good 207 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: on them. Good on them for answering the call. Mark 208 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: Kelly deserves no love now, no harm should come to 209 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: him from any citizen. All that stuff is madness and nonsense, 210 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: and the swatting and everything else. It's ridiculous, it's disgusting. 211 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: It isn't how we do things. I have a ballot. 212 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: I can do this without all the things that disastrous 213 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: nations have to go through. 214 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: But being charged. Hell yes, hell yes, I favor it. 215 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: I favor Mark Kelly having to deal with the consequences 216 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: of his actions. He wants to lecture to us about 217 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: how he upholds a code and then does not uphold 218 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: the code. 219 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: He should have to live by it. 220 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: Someone in the chat says, but you're advocating for regular 221 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: Americans to go to war while you sit at home 222 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: telling us propaganda. First of all, nothing I have said 223 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: is propaganda. It is a point of view. If you 224 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: don't like it, you don't have to listen. Secondly, advocating 225 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: for regular Americans to go to war you mean soldiers 226 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: when the moment does call for it, And the answer 227 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: is yes. I advocate, when the moment calls for it, 228 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: for us to engage a fighting force of full and 229 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: outright lethality to destroy the enemy until the enemy is 230 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: quite literally dead. Can I ask what's wrong with you 231 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: that you don't I did not say that we should 232 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: go to war for as the Constitution would describe with 233 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: the Constitutions declaration sorry, light and transient causes. I don't 234 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: believe in that. But when the moment comes, the answer 235 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: is we send other people's children to fight. That's the 236 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: way it goes. You don't understand that you would not 237 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: have won World War two, You would not have won anything. 238 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: You would still be a subject of the king. It's 239 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: time for grown ups, and time for Senator Mark Kelly, 240 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: and I believe all the rest who should resign in 241 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: shame to have to deal with the consequences of their 242 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: despicable actions. 243 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: Let's see what the Pentagon does. 244 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today, So what in the world 245 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: just happened to James Comy case. 246 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what needs to happen. I'll say 247 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: it again. 248 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: I put everything on Pam BONDI really disappointed Tony Katz. 249 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, Great to be here, Great to be 250 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: with you. A judge by the name of Cameron Curry, 251 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed the cases not 252 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: only against James Comy, but against Letitia James, the Attorney 253 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: General of New York. 254 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: They were. 255 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: Dismissed without prejudice. They can be refiled. These people can 256 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: be reindicted, and that's going to happen. Komy indicted for 257 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: lying right saying he never things to the press when 258 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: he did. Latitia James for lying about how she got mortgages, 259 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: this fraud. 260 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: That's my take. 261 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: The argument is about the US attorney in question, Lindsay Halligan, 262 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: and the argument is that she was appointed improperly. That 263 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: she was appointed improperly meant that when these indictments took place, 264 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: she was not actually the attorney in charge for the 265 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: Eastern District of Virginia, and therefore the indictments themselves are invalid. 266 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: She has been unlawfully serving in a role since September 267 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, So therefore she could not have 268 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: moved forward to engage the indictments against either one. Now 269 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: there's a conversation about whether or not what is the 270 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 2: proper terminology here the statute of limitations with James Comy 271 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: is involved that you won't be able to reindict. The 272 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: question will be, and this will be for lawyers who 273 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: have an understanding of these things. If an indictment came 274 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: through but there was some kind of technical issue, does that. 275 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: Indictment date? 276 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: Can another indictment be brought with a fixing of the 277 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: snapoo and fits into that timeframe? 278 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: Or is it's over? It's over, It's over, that's it. 279 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: That's question. James Comy is what you never want your 280 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: sons to become. 281 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: You don't ever want your sons to grow up to 282 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: be like James Comy. 283 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: This abuse no moral compass individual. 284 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: Daughters, letitia James, you don't want to be that, not 285 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: interested in doing a job, interested in engaging in vengeance 286 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: to win the favor of your. 287 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: Party or some other dollar. But all this makes me 288 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: say the buck stops somewhere. Pam Bondy's got to go. 289 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: It's embarrassing already, can't do the job. 290 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: Let's find somebody who can. I'm Tony Katz. 291 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So the Trump administration is 292 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: denying reports of the demise of DOGE. Is that what 293 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: they're doing. They're saying, Oh, no, no, no, everything's fine. 294 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 2: What are you talking about. Everything's super groovy. 295 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Efficiency, otherwise known as DOGE is dead. Darren Botello's got 296 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: the story Capitol Hill working that what you find out, Darren, 297 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: Good morning. 298 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: Good morning, Bill. 299 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 10: As you pointed out, the administration is saying that DOGE 300 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 10: is not dead, instead saying it's decentralized and every agency 301 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 10: is working on cost cutting measures. This whole controversy started 302 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 10: with a Reuter's article that was posted just about twenty 303 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 10: four hours ago. 304 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: Here's what he was talking about. 305 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 10: It was saying that DOGE is disbanded, eight months ahead 306 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 10: of schedule. Of course, by the way, it's set to 307 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 10: come to an end in July twenty twenty six. Also 308 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 10: in the article, Bill, it says that former DOGE employees 309 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 10: have taken new roles in the administration. Scott Kapor, director 310 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 10: of the Office of Personnel Management, hitting back with this tweet, saying, 311 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 10: in part, the truth is DOGE may not have centralized 312 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 10: leadership under USDs, but the principles of DOZE remain alive 313 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 10: and well. Deregulation, eliminating fraud, waste and abuse, reshaping the 314 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 10: federal workforce, making efficiency a first class citizen Doche. 315 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: Good, excellent? Am I concerned? Well, sure, absolutely concerned. You 316 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: know you need to be focused on this. I don't 317 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: need a big government agency to do it. I need 318 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: the work to be done, but don't I don't know 319 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: if putting it in these separate places it all just 320 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: Michael falls by the wayside. This brings us to MSNBC. 321 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: I'm sorry ms NOW talking about Marjorie Taylor Green And 322 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: if you want to understand the Republican from Georgia who 323 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: is resigning from Congress, well you need ms NOW to 324 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: explain it to you. 325 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: Michael, So, which is it? 326 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: What does her split from Trump tell us about the 327 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 6: future of MEGA. 328 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 7: It tells us the MAGA coalition is collapsing. Was one 329 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 7: of the most powerful and influential voices he had in Congress. 330 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 7: She was with him since the beginning in twenty fifteen, 331 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 7: and now she has chosen to move on. 332 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: And it's not just her. Even outside of Congress. 333 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 7: You have some of the most powerful media voices on 334 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 7: the right who have moved on from Trump, people like 335 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 7: Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon and the racist white supremacist 336 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: Nick fint Has. Those people have all moved on because 337 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 7: they have said they feel betrayed. And so if I'm 338 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 7: Donald Trump, I'm wondering what this means for me and 339 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 7: my ability to get anything done next. 340 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: What you need is the former spokesperson of Rakim Jefferies 341 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: to explain it to you. That's Marjorie Taylor Green to 342 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: the ideas she was influential. 343 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: Is silly. 344 00:22:53,960 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan influential and a really acceptable, worthy conversation it 345 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: exists regarding why did you lose these people, these players 346 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: who were certainly helpful and influential in helping you winning reelection. 347 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: It could be because you now say, hey, it's okay 348 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: if six hundred thousand. 349 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: Chinese nationals clearly connected to the Chinese Communist Party are 350 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: in our universities. What what are you possibly talking about 351 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: when you tell us that the Jeffrey Epstein files don't matter. 352 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: I wonder if Trump has had a little bit of 353 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: understanding of what it must have been like for the 354 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: so called conservatives, some of whom are friends, who have 355 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: come around and all signed on to that letter over 356 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: at National Review saying you can't vote for Trump. 357 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: Do you remember this? 358 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: They put out a whole issue of National Review about this, 359 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: and I talked to National Review guys today. There's some 360 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: smart guys over there. This was an unbelievably bad move. 361 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: Unbelievably bad move. The worst move was never Trump. The 362 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: people who are never Trump are the most ridiculous people 363 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: out there. Never Trump is a pathetic and embarrassing movement. 364 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: Guys like David French who were writing things I agreed 365 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: with and disagreed with the National Review who decided to 366 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: go never Trump and now want to play the game 367 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: of I don't know what these democrats said wrong. You 368 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: shouldn't follow illegal orders. They didn't say anything wrong. Oh 369 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: dear lord, what's the line? 370 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: It was a billing ball. 371 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: Here's your sign, like it's just that that clear. But 372 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: those guys got a very rude awakening when they realized 373 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: they didn't have any. 374 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: Control over voters. 375 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: They didn't get to decide what conservatism was or what 376 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: they wanted for the nation. 377 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: They could only put out an idea. 378 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: It was up to people to decide what to do 379 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: with that idea, and what they decided to say, and 380 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: they did. What they decided to say is we know best, 381 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: and that's not reality. Here's what I think, and here 382 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: is why. Here's why I think it's a good idea. 383 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: Here's why I think it's a bad idea. You've heard 384 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: me talk about Tyris. I know seb of you disagree 385 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: with me. 386 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: We're still friends, dear lord. 387 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: And what these radio people and bloggers and television people 388 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: and others learned is that you don't get to decide. 389 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: You don't understand what's happening. You don't know it's like 390 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: to have somebody finally listen and understand us. We've been 391 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 2: having these conversations for years. I don't know if Trump 392 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 2: has begun to understand that when you said something, we 393 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: took you at your word, and we're gonna hold you 394 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: aggressively to your word. 395 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: I don't care what name you call us. 396 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: Why something we understood from the beginning, we said, from 397 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: the beginning, Oh, we got a whole bunch of heat 398 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: for it. From the beginning. I do not You do 399 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: not have to be loyal to Donald Trump. He has 400 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: to be loyal to us. We do not work for him, 401 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: He works for us. 402 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: When you know your place at the table, when you 403 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: know who you are man, the whole thing is a 404 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: lot easier. 405 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: And when you're not engaged in some Magaville insanity idol worship, 406 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: but rather recognize the guy who can do good and 407 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: has issues. 408 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 3: And Trump is a guy who can do good and 409 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: has issues. 410 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: And Marjorie Taylor Green could not have done anything if 411 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 2: she wasn't all Trump all the time. 412 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: She chose idol worship. 413 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: And the idea that this proves that the mega coalition 414 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: is collapsing, What does that even mean? It means that 415 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: a group of Democrats on MSNBC finally have something to 416 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: sexually excite them. 417 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: So it means there's no value in this. None. 418 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 2: Going back to Marjorie Taylor Green, though, she of course resigning, 419 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: and it is noted by a whole bunch of people 420 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: that her resignation comes on January fifth, twenty twenty six. 421 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: Why January fifth, It could be could be because the 422 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Congress will be sworn in on January third, she will 423 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: well at that time, will have served five years. Five 424 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: years guarantees you a full lifetime pension. You know, the 425 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: rumor is that Marjorie Taylor Green is worth twenty five 426 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: million dollars, And do you know how much that makes 427 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 2: me crazy? 428 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: How have I not figured this out yet? What's wrong 429 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: with me? I mean, dear lord, but. 430 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: She's going to stick around to get the full pension. Okay, 431 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: thank goodness, you're so convicted. But in her nine minute 432 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: plus screed, her nine minutes plus of announcing that she 433 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: was leaving. 434 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: What she stated deserves. 435 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: It's a serious amount of questioning, Like, for example, this 436 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: right here. 437 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: Standing up for American women who were raped at fourteen 438 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: years old, trafficked in use by rich, powerful men should 439 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 4: not result in me being called a trader and threatened 440 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: by the President of the United States, whom I fought for. 441 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: I have too much self respect and dignity. I love 442 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: my family way too much, and I do not want 443 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and 444 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: hateful primary against me by the president that we all 445 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: fought for only to fight and win my election. While 446 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn be 447 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: expected to defend the President against impeachment after he hatefully 448 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: dumped tens of millions of dollars against me and tried 449 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: to destroy me. 450 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: Now I think we would agree that's a worthy argument. 451 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: What am I sticking around for? When you tell me 452 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: about how much you love your family and you love this, 453 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: you love the country, and you love your constituents, and 454 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: you did it all for the people. You're sticking around 455 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: for the money. So that's a that's a hard one 456 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, do a math on. 457 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: But this idea that you were betrayed. 458 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: I if you want to play the part of useful 459 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: idiot representative Green, you can, But I don't think anybody 460 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: should play that part. 461 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: And you did, And don't worry, You're not alone. 462 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: There are others, whether they're in Congress or they're influencers 463 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: or whatever they are, they play the. 464 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: Part of useful idiot. 465 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: There are only two people you agree with one hundred percent. 466 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: There are only two peoples whose opinions you think are perfect, 467 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: and that is your own and Jesus. 468 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: And everybody else is fallible. That's reality. The man never 469 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: said anything wrong a day in his life. Do you 470 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 3: know how insane that is? 471 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: I agree with everything he says all the time, really, 472 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: because I think that's crazy, And you sound ridiculous, and 473 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: we should be clear. Marjorie Taylor Green, you sounded ridiculous. 474 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: If you had been someone who had at least openly 475 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: said I'm not in favor of that right there, there 476 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: would be more credibility to it. 477 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: But when you are shocked to learn that. 478 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: You disagree with the president and the president has choice 479 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: things to say about you, you've never seen Donald Trump before, 480 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: You never once, I don't know, saw a video clip. 481 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of crocodile tears here. I 482 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: think you're allowed to resign. I think you have an 483 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: interesting thing to say about how Congress works and how 484 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: nothing ever gets better and the real issues there, and 485 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: I think that's valuable. 486 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: I think you make a point about why should I run. 487 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna win. I don't know if you will. 488 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 2: Trump's has spent all this money against me, then I'm 489 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: gonna be expected to back them up. 490 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to be around that. 491 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: I think that's an argument people can actually connect with 492 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: and to prove how gross it all is. I'm going 493 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: to stay so I get my pension. I will say clearly, 494 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you'll be missed. I'll be curious to 495 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: see what you do on the outside, I'm turning. 496 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: Cats enter of debate for us. We know it. 497 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: Somoli community is an integral part of our state, our culture, 498 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: and our neighborhoods. Like so many immigrant communities before them, 499 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: many Somolies came to Minnesota. 500 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: Fleeing conflict, instability, the famine, just looking to build better 501 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: lives for. 502 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: Themselves and their families, like everybody else. But that's not 503 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: what happened seemingly in Minneapolis. There Keith Ellison, the guy 504 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: who claimed he didn't know what Antifa was, but there's 505 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: pictures of him years ago holding the Antifa handbook. Yeah 506 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: that Keith Ellison. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. Great to 507 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: be with you. He's the Attorney General of Minnesota. And 508 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: the story here is that it was learned through reporting 509 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: from the Manhattan Institute that Somali nationals in Minneapolis is 510 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: a very large smally population are applying for all types 511 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: of funds that were available through things via COVID nineteen, 512 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Medicaid housing stabilization, a service, something called feeding 513 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: our Future, and they made claims of kids being autistic. 514 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: They make claims of this, that and the other, and 515 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: to get funding dollars and then what they did is 516 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: they sent that money back to Somalia and Al Shahab. 517 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry all Shabab, I gotta pronounce correctly. The terrorist 518 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 2: organization ended up with the money. They funneled money back 519 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: to a terrorist organization. And now Trump is saying, you 520 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: lose your temporary protected status. 521 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: This is ending. 522 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: Temporary protected status is what we found in Actually we're 523 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: heading back in the spring Springfield, Ohio. The Haitians are 524 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: eating the dogs, eating the cats. That wasn't happening, but 525 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: they are eating geese, and they are terrible drivers, and 526 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: the housing problem is massive. Temporary protective status is what 527 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: allowed the Haitians to stay. And it seemed to me 528 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: like it was a jobs programs for factories out there 529 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: in Springfield, Ohio, because now they got these workers. Temper 530 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: protect and status is what the Biden administration utilized for 531 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 2: specific groups, for specific purposes, to keep them from being removed. Somehow, 532 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: they deserved extra protection. All the animals are equal, with 533 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: some more equal than others. Trump is removing that and 534 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: it shouldn't just be for those in Minnesota, it should 535 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: be for the nation. 536 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: I will dig more into that. Keep it here. 537 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today,