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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today, Friday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Happy Friday. Welcome to Tony Katz Today. As you

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Speaker 2: can tell, Tony is out today, but no worries.

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Speaker 3: I've got you.

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Speaker 2: I am going to get you into this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kia Davis filling in for my good friend Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: right here on Tony Katz Today. Who follow me on

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Speaker 2: Instagram at just Kira Davis, Justkia Davis or I'm x

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Speaker 2: at Real Curate Davis. We have so much news to

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Speaker 2: get to today. It is a the news cycle never rests,

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Speaker 2: but particularly today, particular this whole week, there's a ton

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Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about. Yesterday and earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: there have been debates. We had the Virginia gubernatorial debate.

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Speaker 2: We had the Virginia AG debate. Did you ever think

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Speaker 2: that you would be paying attention to a debate about

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Speaker 2: an AG an attorney general debate in a state you

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Speaker 2: don't live in, But that's been going on in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: And then of course we had the New York City

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Speaker 2: mayoral debate last night.

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Speaker 3: Big deal.

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Speaker 2: We got lots clips loaded up for you We're also

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Speaker 2: going to in the second hour, we're going to welcome

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Speaker 2: Susie Moore from Red State. She's going to talk to

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Speaker 2: us about what's going on with this case THATXCTUS is

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Speaker 2: now adjudicating that could affect the Voter's Rights Act of

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five and really could change the way we

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Speaker 2: do jerrymandering and redistricting and all of that.

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Speaker 3: I have opinions on that.

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Speaker 2: I think I I've never understood jerry manderin I didn't

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Speaker 2: start out my life as an American, as many of

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Speaker 2: you know by now. I'm a Canadian or I was

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Speaker 2: born Canadian. I'm definitely American now. I immigrated at eighteen,

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Speaker 2: But when I was growing up, we didn't have such

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Speaker 2: a thing. I don't know if they do now in Canada,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bet yes, But I had never heard

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Speaker 2: of such a thing. So jerry mandering has always seemed

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Speaker 2: very foreign and strange to me, and I just I

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Speaker 2: do not understand how we have let this go on

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Speaker 2: for so long. But I think that's going to be

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Speaker 2: the theme of the show today, which is we have

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Speaker 2: let too much go on for too long, and so

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Speaker 2: now we need to do some really uncomfortable things. I

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Speaker 2: went to my school board meeting last night or excuse

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Speaker 2: me on Wednesday, and I reamed.

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Speaker 3: Our Republican school board we flipped.

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Speaker 2: You guys probably remember because I was on this show

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Speaker 2: promoting that race when I was running.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, we lost.

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Speaker 2: We didn't put the board, but in twenty four we did,

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Speaker 2: and a lovely woman.

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Speaker 3: Won my seat.

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Speaker 2: And it's a panel of you know, everybody, you know,

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Speaker 2: even the people I don't like.

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Speaker 3: At least they're serving. So I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: Bad, but it's a panel that is that should share

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Speaker 2: our sensibilities as Republicans and conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Is what we worked for as parents.

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Speaker 2: And then this board has come in and they don't

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Speaker 2: to give us the controversial things like a parental notification policy,

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Speaker 2: So I went to the board last night and I.

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Speaker 3: You know, I spoke my mind and I told them

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Speaker 2: I told them they were weak, and then I did

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Speaker 2: in upsetting times. This is why I told just this story.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to care about my school board. We

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Speaker 2: are in upsetting times, and that means that a lot

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Speaker 2: We're going to have to be willing to be insulted.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have to be willing to be told

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Speaker 2: We have to be willing to just this is the

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Speaker 3: And I want to say this.

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Speaker 2: We have to be willing to accept when it looks

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Speaker 2: did look like we were losing.

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Speaker 3: We lost everything, but those of us who are.

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Speaker 2: Patient and steadfast continued to fight for what was right.

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Speaker 2: We eventually got to see that come to fruition. And

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of us thought that maybe we

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Speaker 3: And it's not going to be like that. This is

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Speaker 3: going to take years.

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Speaker 2: This is a year's long process, and take longer than

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Speaker 2: the three years we have left with Trump. That's why

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Speaker 2: everyone where you are locally, you need to get involved

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Speaker 2: and you need to start shaping the future of your community. Right.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to have Donald Trump forever. And not

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump affects your everyday life. I get that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't. No president does, nor should they. But he

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Speaker 2: is a leader, and he's a very effective leader. And

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Speaker 2: you may notice he is making week leaders strong. So

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who are are who

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Speaker 2: feel emboldened by having a man like Trump in front

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Speaker 2: of them to take a lot of the slings and arrows.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's not an insult, that's just human nature,

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Speaker 2: fair enough. That's why you need good leaders. But then

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of other people who are feeling

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Speaker 2: and so I don't have to do anything.

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Speaker 3: And that's not the case.

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Speaker 2: You need to take advantage of this time right now

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Speaker 2: where we have the bully pulpit, we have the culture,

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Speaker 2: we've got the momentum, and we have the leader who's

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Speaker 2: willing to stand in front of us. We need to

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Speaker 2: take advantage of this time and really go just really

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Speaker 2: go for it. It was a message I was getting

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Speaker 2: my school board. I wasn't asking them to step down

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Speaker 2: or anything, but I was just asking them to get aggressive.

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Speaker 2: We really have to go for it. Everybody needs to

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Speaker 3: This is day.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen of the government shutdown. Everybody, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: your life is going on. If you work for the

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Speaker 3: Even I forget. I keep forgetting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm anywhere back from Tony Cass today. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: We had to go to break.

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Speaker 3: We had to cut to a break where we're having

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Speaker 2: We are back. I think everything should be worked out now.

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Speaker 2: My deep apologies and I'm so sorry that you were interrupted,

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Speaker 2: that I had to interrupt my incredibly intelligent and salient

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Speaker 2: we are back anyway. I was talking about that we

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Speaker 2: be aggressive and to be bold. This is day seventeen

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Speaker 2: why that is happening, what they're waiting for, and I

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Speaker 2: break down what this means for the future, the immediate

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Speaker 2: there are a number of miscalculations being made on the

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Speaker 2: to you this clip. This is speaker Johnson. Now before

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Speaker 2: They're strong leaders and they make weak men strong. That's

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Speaker 2: what you see with Trump. So a guy like Mike

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Speaker 2: I was very unsure about him. He seemed very weak

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Speaker 2: because you need to crack some skulls sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, we're still having ties. I'm not sure what's

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe there is a I'll let the producer tell me.

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Speaker 2: not cross. Apologies. But Speaker Johnson has said he has

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Speaker 2: here's Bigger Johnson talking. He does this every day. This

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Speaker 3: And that's what Republicans have needed to do.

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Speaker 2: Forever. They need to be on the offensive with their publicity,

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Speaker 2: basically marketing. They need to be marketing. The Democrats are

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Speaker 2: great at marketing, especially when it comes to shutdowns. We've

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Speaker 3: So it's time for a new playbook. And Johnson is

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Speaker 2: So here is Johnson talking about the town hall with

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Speaker 2: They said the quiet parts out loud at that town

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Speaker 4: CNN hosts the first Socialist town hall where Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 4: and AOC said the quiet parts out loud. They don't

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Speaker 4: are the real leaders of the Democrat Party. We all

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Speaker 4: know it. AOC and Bernie, good luck with that.

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Speaker 3: I love how they are.

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Speaker 2: They keep poking about this Democrat leadership thing. They keep

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Speaker 2: every Republican representative, including Johnson that you just heard just now,

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Speaker 2: every single one has said has ended their statements with, well,

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Speaker 2: AOC and Bernie are the leaders of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: Now you're watching the leaders of the Democrat Party. I'm

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Speaker 2: they do want to prevent it. I don't think we

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Speaker 3: This is a two party system.

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Speaker 2: A two party system does not work without two parties.

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Speaker 2: But everyone has to be held accountable. We need change,

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a holistic effort from top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling it for Tony Cats and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, October seventeenth and this is day seventeen of

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Speaker 2: the government shutdown. How has your life changed? I'm Kia

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Speaker 2: Davis feeling it for my friend Tony Katz on this

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Speaker 2: lovely Friday, coming to you live from southern California, where

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Speaker 2: we have a huge, huge, huge vote coming up in

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Speaker 2: the yes, I'm fifty so Yes, I'm Prop fifty would

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Speaker 2: got to convince some of their voters to vote for

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Speaker 2: no as well. I don't have a lot of expectations

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Speaker 2: for whether for this path. For this failing, it'd be

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Speaker 2: a nice surprise if it fails. That being said, if

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Speaker 2: it passes, that's not the end of this road. And

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Speaker 2: we're going to have Susie Moore in the next hour

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Speaker 2: from Red State. She's a lawyer, and she writes a

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Speaker 2: lot about legal issues, particularly pertaining to the Constitution. She's

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Speaker 2: going to talk to us about what's going on with

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Speaker 2: the Voter's Rights Act and how that could change jerrymanderin

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Speaker 2: if we get a Supreme Court decision that changes federal law,

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Speaker 2: California's up a creek. We're going to have to do

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Speaker 2: this stuff in violation of the Constitution. We already do

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Speaker 2: a lot in violation of the Constitution. Do you all

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Speaker 2: understand what's being set up here? The No King's Rally

453
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Speaker 2: is tomorrow. Do you guys understand what's going on? You

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Speaker 2: need to be a little more concerned. This is not

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Speaker 2: just the Democrats kicking and screaming and throwing a tantrum,

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Speaker 2: and ah, isn't it funny? And they're singing songs and

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Speaker 2: they're dumb rallies. That is funny and it is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But it's deeper than that, and it's more concerning than that.

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Speaker 2: You need to look at the patterns and you need

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Speaker 2: to put it all together. Look at a guy like

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Speaker 2: Gavin Now we're making fun of him here in California

462
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Speaker 2: because he is taking on a Trump like persona. He's

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Speaker 2: even instructed his social media team to make the feed

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Speaker 2: look like Trump's feed looks like and he's doing things

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Speaker 2: like holding press conferences the way Trump would, and he's

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Speaker 2: doing issuing executive orders for California that mirror what Trump's doing.

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Speaker 2: It's very fake and and authentic and silly, but it's

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Speaker 2: a strategy. And then you have Printzburgh and Illinois saying

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Speaker 2: we're going to resist Ice, We're standing up, We're and

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Speaker 2: then you have this whole cabal of Western governors who

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Speaker 2: are meeting to create their own Western not a summit,

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Speaker 2: but a coalition who resist Trump. They are setting up

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Speaker 2: a shadow government. It's treason. They're setting up civil war.

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Speaker 2: So we got to knock it down now means at

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Speaker 2: our local levels, at on the federal levels like Trump

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Speaker 2: is doing it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to a break. When we come back, we'll

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Speaker 3: talk more about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Katz, and you're

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Speaker 2: listening to Tony Kats today. Welcome back everybody to Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. I'm your guest, hos Kia Davis filling in

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Speaker 2: for Tony. It is Friday, October seventeenth, day seventeen of

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Speaker 2: Christmas Land. Okay, we've been talking about government shutdown, how

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Speaker 2: everything is changing and no one likes change, and that

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Speaker 2: means we've got to go out there and do and

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Speaker 2: say the things we don't want to do and say.

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Speaker 2: And the Democrats are on the ropes and they're having

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Speaker 2: this No King's rally on Saturday. That's why we're in

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Speaker 2: day seventeen of the shutdown. By the way, everybody that's it,

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Speaker 2: that's the only reason they needed two weeks, two plus

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Speaker 2: weeks to plan a rally. And I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: you why they think this rally is going to be

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Speaker 2: their Charlie Kirk moment.

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Speaker 3: They saw think about it.

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Speaker 2: You can go to my Instagram and I did a

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Speaker 2: little commentary about this as well.

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Speaker 3: But they saw.

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Speaker 2: Think about what happened after in the wake of Charlie's

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Speaker 2: assassination and then told Jimmy Kimmel's stuff, and how hard

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Speaker 2: they rode for Jimmy Kimmel. They're righting hard for that dude,

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Speaker 2: acting like he was the one that got shot in

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Speaker 2: front of his family, acting like he was the victim,

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Speaker 2: like he was the one who died. They marched, they protested.

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Speaker 2: It was incredible, It was incredible to witness. They made

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Speaker 2: him their Charlie Kirk. And that is what they made

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimball a martyr. And you might be saying that's ridiculous, Kiera,

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Speaker 2: but yes, they are ridiculous. Do you understand that that's

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Speaker 2: how ridiculous. They are. They literally wanted Jimmy Kimmel to

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Speaker 2: be their martyr, and that's what they made him, because

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Speaker 2: they are fake and they don't have the stones to

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Speaker 2: lay their own lives on the line for truth, so

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Speaker 2: the best they can do is make a martyr of

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Speaker 2: a millionaire who lost his job for five days. So

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel was their murdyr. And now they need a

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk memorial because what happened at the Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: Memorial was the whole country came together and we praised

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Speaker 2: and worshiped for eight hours, and that changed America.

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Speaker 3: And we're not even.

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Speaker 2: Close to beginning to feel the ripples of that day

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Speaker 2: in this country. And they knew it because I watched

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Speaker 2: CNN that day. I didn't watch Fox. I watched the

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Speaker 2: CNN coverage of Charlie's memorial and the MSNBC. I flipped

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Speaker 2: back and forth. I wanted to see what they saw.

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Speaker 2: And the Democrats at home, sure, they turned it off,

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Speaker 2: but the people that were in the room watching that memorial,

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Speaker 2: they understood what was happening and they were moved by it,

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Speaker 2: and I dare say a little frightened. They were deeply

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Speaker 2: respectful by the way that day. I know they went

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Speaker 2: back to business as usual, but that day, fair enough,

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Speaker 2: they were very respectful to the entire thing because they

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Speaker 2: were there, right, they had a cover, so they were there.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't be present and not feel what was going on,

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Speaker 2: so they couldn't ignore what was happening. And they went

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Speaker 2: back to their friends and they said, we need it,

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Speaker 2: we got to have this. Well, they're not brave enough

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Speaker 2: to go out there and lose their own lives for

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Speaker 2: the truth, so they've got to manufacture something. Well, we

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Speaker 2: did the No Kings rally. Let's do that again. That's

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Speaker 2: what the government shutdown is about. They're moving towards the

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Speaker 2: No King's rally, and what they're hoping is that on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have their own Charlie Kirk memorial moment

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Speaker 2: and it's going to galvanize the country. That's what they're

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Speaker 2: hoping for. You you take it to the bank and yeah,

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Speaker 2: you should be disgusted that they're keeping the government closed

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Speaker 2: so that they can go have a protest.

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Speaker 3: All right, I think I had. Did I upload that?

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Speaker 3: I didn't write it in my notes?

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Speaker 2: Did I upload that clip where they were talking about

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Speaker 2: the No Kings rally at CNN. Yeah, okay, let's play

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Speaker 2: this clip. This is the CNN anchors and I can't

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Speaker 2: recall they're talking to some of their analysts. They're talking

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Speaker 2: about rally. I want you to pay attention to what

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Speaker 2: they're saying and the way they are framing this, what

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Speaker 2: they are begging the attendees to do and not do.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and play this clip.

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Speaker 5: You know he called these rallies hate America rallies.

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Speaker 2: What do you think this is coming to represent.

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Speaker 5: I think they are desperate and I mean desperate to

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Speaker 5: evoke the Insurrection Act and they're going to look for

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Speaker 5: any excuse tomorrow to try to do that. So to

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Speaker 5: anybody who's marching, I would say, treat Donald Trump as

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Speaker 5: a joke. As the protesters in Portland did. Be peaceful.

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Speaker 5: If somebody tries to provoke, you do not get provoked

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Speaker 5: to not engage because they want one little shread of violence,

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Speaker 5: anything to be able to say, look, the country's out

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Speaker 5: of control. We're going to evoke the Insurrection Act. Jd

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Speaker 5: Vance said it. I mean, this is not something that's

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Speaker 5: just theoretical. It's going to happen. If there's an excuse.

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Speaker 5: So I would just say to anybody who's marching, please

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Speaker 5: do whatever you can to be as peaceful as possible,

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Speaker 5: to not give them that expension.

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Speaker 2: It's hilarious that they're after four five years of screeching

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Speaker 2: about insurrection, how all of a sudden they're nervous about

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Speaker 2: the insurrection act. I mean, it's just hilarious. But listen

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Speaker 2: to what they were saying. When you guys planned your

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk memorial, and I know a lot of you did,

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Speaker 2: or you planned to attend one, and you went to one,

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Speaker 2: what were you being told about it? What were you

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Speaker 2: telling other people about it? Were you bagging people? Please?

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Speaker 2: No violence when you come to Charlie Kirk's memorial. Please

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Speaker 2: just I know you're angry, but try not to be violent.

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Speaker 2: The Left is looking for any excuse to blame us.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear any of No, of course not, of

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Speaker 2: course not. It's not even in our DNA. We were

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Speaker 2: going to pray it's in their DNA. That's who they are.

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Speaker 2: So she had to warn them. Now I think that

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Speaker 2: she was sincere in her warning because I think she

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Speaker 2: thinks they're the peaceful side. You heard her say, do

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Speaker 2: what the protesters in Portland did treat it like silly.

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Speaker 2: What she's referring to is that the protesters in Portland

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Speaker 2: showed up in furry costumes or inflatable Halloween costumes after

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Speaker 2: a few nights. But if you follow Dave Marcus, and

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Speaker 2: you should on AX, he's a writer for Fox Digital,

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Speaker 2: he was on the ground there and he'll tell you

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Speaker 2: in every reporter who's been on the ground there. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, no CNN reporters have been on the

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Speaker 2: ground in Portland, not one, not one. They report from

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Speaker 2: the comfort of their studios. If you talk, if you

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Speaker 2: listen to a reporter who's been on the ground there,

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Speaker 2: you're going to hear them say that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: They wear the costumes and all of the silly stuff

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Speaker 2: for social media. They do it so that everyone will

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Speaker 2: look and go, oh, look, they're just being cute and funny.

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Speaker 2: But they come with bricks and knives and pepper spray.

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Speaker 2: They're vicious, cruel, evil people who are paid to insurrect.

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Speaker 2: So they don't even know that. They don't even know

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Speaker 2: enough to know that those people in the funny costumes

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Speaker 2: are the violent people.

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Speaker 3: They are being violent.

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Speaker 2: They just have funny costumes on and you're so stupid

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Speaker 2: you fall for it. So she does think that. But

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Speaker 2: I think two things are happening here. I think that

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Speaker 2: one part of their party is afraid. They're afraid of

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Speaker 2: the Insurrection Act. They're afraid of the people in their

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Speaker 2: own party who are violent. And the other party, the

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Speaker 2: excuse me, the other part of their party is hopeful.

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Speaker 2: They're wish casting. They want insurrection, they want the Insurrection Act.

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Speaker 2: They want our cities to be militarized, right. They want this.

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Speaker 2: They think it's to their advantage. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I know a number of you are nervous out there

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Speaker 2: about that. I'm here to tell you everybody's going to

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Speaker 2: have to just fuck get up. It is gonna get rough,

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Speaker 2: it is gonna get uncomfortable. It's what we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to do to fix things. It's a strap in. I'm

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Speaker 2: Cia Davis. You're listening to Tony Kats Today see any

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Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to hour two of Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: Tony is out.

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Speaker 2: I am your guest host, your guide, your travel guide.

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Speaker 2: We push you into the weekend, we don't. I'm not

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Speaker 2: are not annoyed by my voice at all. I think

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Speaker 2: they find it soothing. They love it when I'm talking

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Speaker 2: at them. But I'm going to talk at you today

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Speaker 2: as we move into the weekend. I'm Kira Davis. You

656
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Speaker 2: can find me on x at Real Kia Davis, or

657
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Speaker 2: go buy my book Drawing Lines Why Conservatives must be

658
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: in a battle fiercely in the arena of ideas. You

659
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Speaker 2: have to go to Amazon for that. I'm sold out.

660
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Speaker 2: I sold out all my books. I went to an

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Speaker 2: event last week. I was the invited speaker to a

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Speaker 2: Ladies Republican.

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Speaker 3: Club in Torrance, in LA.

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Speaker 2: And they were so what a wonderful crowd. They were

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Speaker 2: the South Bay Republican women. They were a wonderful crowd,

666
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Speaker 2: and they bought all my books. I'm out. So I

667
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Speaker 2: think that's a great advertisement. You should go out there

668
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Speaker 2: and buy that book too, But you'll have to order online,

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Speaker 2: all right, I want to talk about jerrymandering, Voters Rights Act,

670
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Speaker 2: and just what the heck is going on at the

671
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court and what this might mean for California Prop.

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Speaker 3: Fifty. I was talking about that last hour, so I asked.

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Speaker 2: My good friend to come in and break this all

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Speaker 2: down with us and for us. She's a lot smarter

675
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: than me, so I think this would be good for

676
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Speaker 2: the show. Please welcome to the show, Susie Moore. She's

677
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Speaker 2: the deputy managing editor of RedState dot com. You can

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Speaker 2: find her at at Smoothie Q S M s I

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Speaker 2: E Q on X and Susie is a lawyer out

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Speaker 2: of Saint Louis and she's also a dog lover. She

681
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Speaker 2: volunteers at her dog shelter every week. She's awesome. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show, Susie, good to talk to you. I

683
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Speaker 2: almost said good to see you, but I can only.

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Speaker 3: See you in my mind.

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Speaker 6: I just say I can see you, just find Kira.

686
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: It's good to have you back, and it's great to

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Speaker 2: hear your voice.

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Speaker 3: Susie. I know you guys have read say have been.

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Speaker 2: Following along with what's going on here in California with

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Speaker 2: Prop fifty Before before I ask you to break down

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Speaker 2: what's happening at SKOTUS, give me a sense of what

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Speaker 2: this looks like to you outside of California.

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Speaker 3: For me, I was I was telling the listeners earlier.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very bizarre to be in this very

697
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Speaker 2: this is a very localized measure, and yet the whole

698
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Speaker 2: country is arguing about it, and everyone's weighing in, but

699
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Speaker 2: we're the only ones who can vote. What's it looking

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Speaker 2: like to you from your point of view, well.

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Speaker 6: From from where I stand here in the Midwest, it

702
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 6: just looks like, you know, partisan politicking on the part

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Speaker 6: of California and grand standing on the part of Gavin

704
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Speaker 6: Newsom in an attempt to sort of push back on

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Speaker 6: some kind of clever methods that have been employed by

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Speaker 6: Texas and even Missouri other states to try to turn

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Speaker 6: things to, you know, a political advantage for Republicans. I

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Speaker 6: don't know enough about the inner workings there in California

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Speaker 6: to know. I mean, I know that what is being

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Speaker 6: pushed is an effort to kind of get around this

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Speaker 6: sort of neutral bipartisan commission that's supposed to draw the

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Speaker 6: lines the districts there in California for this you know,

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Speaker 6: rare acceptance or exception situation. And I know that there

714
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Speaker 6: has been a concerted effort to push back on that,

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Speaker 6: to vote down Prop fifty, and I'm hoping that California's

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Speaker 6: are successful with that. So we're kind of just watching

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Speaker 6: it with a well, you know, are the common sense

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Speaker 6: folks going to be able to win out against the

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Speaker 6: super duper partisans in California or is it just going

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Speaker 6: to be another episode of the basically the one party

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Speaker 6: rule state getting its way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to bet it's going to be another

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Speaker 2: episode of the one party state getting its way.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling the listeners, look, Democrats cheat here all

726
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Speaker 2: the time and they know they know how to do it.

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Speaker 3: And Gavin Newsom wouldn't have put this.

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Speaker 2: He can't afford to lose it, so he wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: put it on the ballot if he thought there was

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Speaker 2: a chance that it was going to lose. So we

731
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Speaker 2: really are up against it. But that's not the end

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Speaker 2: of it. This is why I want to bring you

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Speaker 2: on because even if we do it, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm fighting tooth and nail.

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Speaker 3: I'm bleeding my feet are sorry, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I am out there every day talk about this measure

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Speaker 2: and really working to defeat it. But that being said,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you because if it passes,

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Speaker 2: there is still this thing that's going on at Skotis

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Speaker 2: where they were reviewing this case. It's Louisiana versus Colias.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's how you say it, and this is

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Speaker 2: the case. It could change the very nature of the

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Speaker 2: Voting Rights Act Now, susy, And if you don't mind,

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Speaker 2: I might need to hold you over the break. Are

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Speaker 2: you willing to stay longer? If you can?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Sure, I can do it, okay, because I think we

748
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Speaker 2: might run up against the break because I need you

749
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Speaker 2: to put on your teacher hat and talk to me

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Speaker 2: like I'm five and explore to me how politicians or

751
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Speaker 2: the courts over the years have have used the Voting

752
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Speaker 2: Rights Act to institute jerrymandering and what this Colia's case

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Speaker 2: would change.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to do my best. I will tell

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Speaker 6: you right now. This is something that I've had to

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Speaker 6: kind of delve into a little bit and reacquaint myself

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Speaker 6: with because it wasn't front and center for me. But basically,

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Speaker 6: if I can nutshell it. You know, years ago, the

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Speaker 6: rule was established that you can't racially jerrymander, you can

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Speaker 6: politically jerrymander. I mean every you know, to the victor

761
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Speaker 6: go the spoil. So whenever you know, whichever political party

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Speaker 6: is in charge of a state and redrawing the districts,

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Speaker 6: which comes up every so often, obviously they are able

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Speaker 6: to try and do that to their advantage from a

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Speaker 6: political standpoint, but they can't do it from a racial standpoint,

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Speaker 6: in the sense that you can't exclude people that are

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Speaker 6: from a protected minority class and basically strip them of

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Speaker 6: their rights to have a voice in the voting process

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Speaker 6: by districting them in such a way that that basically

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Speaker 6: dilutes their vote and their voice. So the whole idea

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Speaker 6: was to prevent that from happening, and the Voting Rights

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Speaker 6: Act is part and parcel of that. But what's ended

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Speaker 6: up happening from a practical standpoint is that kind of

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Speaker 6: the reverse has happened. So in an effort to prevent

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Speaker 6: racial discrimination from suppressing the voices of protected classes, the

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Speaker 6: reverse has happen. And there's been this push to try

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Speaker 6: and draw districts that essentially make sure that there's a

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Speaker 6: minority majority districts, and some push to make those in

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Speaker 6: proportion to the actual population in a given state. Well,

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Speaker 6: the Voting Rights Act itself specifically says that nothing in

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Speaker 6: this section establishes a right to have members of a

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Speaker 6: protected class elected in numbers equal to the proportion of

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Speaker 6: the population. So there's this tension that's a risen between

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Speaker 6: trying to avoid vote suppression based on race and then

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Speaker 6: trying not to overcompensate for it. And I'm oversimplifying it

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Speaker 6: by saying it that way, but that's kind of what's

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Speaker 6: a tension here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think the idea that I was reading

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Speaker 2: a great post from Mark Moser yesterday. He's a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: He works for Harmony Hartmeey Dylan Dylan Law, and he's

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Speaker 2: here in California. He's also running for Congress locally. But

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Speaker 2: he had a great low breakdown. But one of the

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Speaker 2: things he says it is like it's almost like the

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Speaker 2: abortion It sounds almost like the abortion rule right where

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Speaker 2: they have created this right out of whole cloth. It

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Speaker 2: was a right, it was the voter. Just make sure

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Speaker 2: I'm understanding this, Susy. The Voter Rights Act was to

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Speaker 2: make sure that we weren't excluding a Mayora consitizens by

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Speaker 2: you know, maliciously redistricting.

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Speaker 3: But then the.

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Speaker 2: Court, a court found that it sort of it also

802
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Speaker 2: intimated that you can't that you have to aid in

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Speaker 2: making sure minority districts are healthy and thriving and carved

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Speaker 2: out properly. And he had a really great way of

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Speaker 2: putting it. But the idea is that it was just

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Speaker 2: to make sure that everyone was protected equally, and suddenly

807
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Speaker 2: they invented this whole other right that certain minority groups

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Speaker 2: are entitled to equal numbers.

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Speaker 6: Right, and so it's like a well intended measure that

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Speaker 6: then got taken too far, and so now you have it,

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Speaker 6: and now it is actually running up against the equal

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Speaker 6: protection clause in the opposite direction. And then you know,

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Speaker 6: it also assumes and you know, I'm going to understand

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Speaker 6: there may be some justification for this, but it is

815
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Speaker 6: just that if you belong to whatever group, that's who

816
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 6: you want to vote for and who you want representing you,

817
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Speaker 6: regardless of policy, party, whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad you said that, because this is

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Speaker 2: the other part of the Prop fifty conversation that we

820
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Speaker 2: don't really have here or the redistrict being in general,

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Speaker 2: which is that we're talking about carving up all these maps,

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Speaker 2: but that still doesn't predict.

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Speaker 3: How the people are going to vote.

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Speaker 2: You're making assumptions, and a lot of people are voting

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Speaker 2: very differently these days.

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Speaker 6: They are absolutely so I told you, oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to stop right here, Susan, because I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Hold you over the break actually before you get going.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, I do want to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about this particular case Louisiana versus clients. If

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Speaker 2: you could Bill listen on that and expectations. I have

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Speaker 2: some questions for you, So stick around, Susie if you

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Speaker 2: don't mind, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, we're going to break. Don't go anywhere.

835
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Speaker 2: You're going to want to hear Susie's breakdown after the break.

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Speaker 2: She is one of the smartest people met my life,

837
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Speaker 2: and you'll be dumber if you don't hear her. All right,

838
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Speaker 2: I'm here Davis filling it for Tony Kats and you're

839
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Speaker 2: listening to Tony Katz today. Welcome back everybody to Tony

840
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Speaker 2: Katz Today. I'm your guest host, Kira Davis filling in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Katz on this Friday, October seventeenth, day seventeen

842
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Speaker 2: of the government shut down. Children are starving in the

843
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Speaker 2: streets and dogs have no one to walk them. It's miserable,

844
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: it's misery, but we're enjoying ourselves anyway. On Tony Kats today,

845
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Speaker 2: I'm here with my good friends Susie Moore. She's the

846
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Speaker 2: deputy managing editor at redstatedeck dot com. You confinder at

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Speaker 2: smoozieq on X Susie, we want to move to this case,

848
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Speaker 2: Louisiana Versus Clias. I want to talk. I want to

849
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Speaker 2: tell the listeners a little bit about this. But first

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Speaker 2: I'm going to read just this little paragraph breakdown from

851
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Speaker 2: Jennifer oliverall O'Connell over at Red State, your fine publication.

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Speaker 3: On Wednesday, the.

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the Louisiana versus Calias case,

854
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Speaker 2: a challenged to the twenty twenty four Louisiana Congressional map

855
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Speaker 2: that brings into conflict the Voting Rights Act and the

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00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. And this I

857
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: did not know that this is the second time that

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Speaker 2: this case has come before Cookscotis. The judges heard the

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00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: original argument in March, but didn't render a decision for

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Speaker 2: the first time. Talk to us a little bit about

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Speaker 2: this case. Why didn't they render the decision the first

862
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Speaker 2: time and how did it end up back at the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. So they have the oral

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Speaker 6: argument back in March, and this was one of the

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Speaker 6: highly anticipated decisions as we got to that June crunch.

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Speaker 6: You know how at the end of June all the

868
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Speaker 6: big decisions come out, and this was one on the

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Speaker 6: last day. As you may recall, our other Red Steak colleague,

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Speaker 6: Joe Cunningham, who is a Louisiana resident, was anxiously awaiting

871
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Speaker 6: that decision. And then they said, you know what, we

872
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 6: want more from the parties on this issue. So they

873
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 6: sent them back to the drawing board and basically said,

874
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Speaker 6: we want you to hone in on these particular issues

875
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Speaker 6: and come back in our you it again in the fall.

876
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Speaker 3: So that's why they had.

877
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Speaker 6: Basically Argument Part two on Wednesday. And really what they're

878
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Speaker 6: what they're trying to do, because some in some publications

879
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: is being portrayed as, oh, the Supreme Court is going

880
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Speaker 6: to gut the Section two of the Voting Rights Act.

881
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 6: Know what they're trying to do is save it. It's

882
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Speaker 6: one of those things that started out well intentioned, but

883
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Speaker 6: it's kind of, you know, started to swallow itself whole,

884
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Speaker 6: and you do have this tension. We Basically, in this

885
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Speaker 6: particular case, you had a federal court that told the

886
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Speaker 6: Louisiana legislature that they needed to create a second majority

887
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Speaker 6: black district pursue it to the Voting Rights Act in

888
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Speaker 6: the state of Louisiana. So the legislature went back to

889
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Speaker 6: the drawing board and did that. But then a different

890
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 6: group of citizens of the Louisiana sued under the equal

891
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Speaker 6: protection clause and said, now wait a second, Now we're

892
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 6: being deprived of our right. So you have this push

893
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Speaker 6: pull going on, and it's going to be interesting to

894
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Speaker 6: see how they navigate this because it's there's competing interests

895
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 6: intention and as I said, I think it's something that

896
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Speaker 6: was well intentioned when it was initially put into put

897
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Speaker 6: it into law by Congress, but now there's all they

898
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 6: added questions that come with it.

899
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Speaker 3: Do we need this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're not in you're not in Congress,

901
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: and you didn't do all this, but I mean, just Susie,

902
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: your opinion, do we need Jerry mannering.

903
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: I have never understood it.

904
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Speaker 2: I don't understand why a district can't just be within

905
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Speaker 2: geographical lines and then whoever lives in there you vote,

906
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: and then if you don't like the way those people vote,

907
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 2: you move to where other people vote. Like you, Am

908
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 2: I crazy?

909
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 6: You're not crazy at all. I think exactly the same

910
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 6: way I think it. Just put it on a grid,

911
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: you know, just for population density, and just do it. Yes,

912
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Speaker 6: I would be perfectly fine with that. The problem is,

913
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Speaker 6: of course, the special interests that aren't perfectly fine with

914
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Speaker 6: that and want to try and gain their advantage, and

915
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Speaker 6: so they work the state legislatures is you know, however

916
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Speaker 6: they can. But anytime you look at a state, whether

917
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Speaker 6: it is a red state or a blue state, and

918
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Speaker 6: you can look at the district's the way they're drawn

919
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 6: and realize that something is terribly amiss, because there's like

920
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Speaker 6: a snake running through the middle of the state that

921
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 6: tells you something is not right. And whether it's being

922
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Speaker 6: done for purely partisan purposes, which I think is really

923
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 6: the issue anymore, or for more sinister you know, because

924
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Speaker 6: of racial issues or wanting to oppress people. Either way,

925
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 6: it shouldn't look like that. It should just be simple,

926
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Speaker 6: shouldn't it.

927
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Speaker 3: That's how I feel.

928
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Speaker 2: I feel like that about most things in government, right,

929
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: Like I look at something, I thank.

930
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: You, and I should be in charge.

931
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Speaker 3: They don't want that. They don't want that.

932
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are gonna get their feelings hurt

933
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Speaker 2: if I'm in charge of anything.

934
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Speaker 3: Nobody wants that. But I know it's true though. There's

935
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Speaker 3: so much stuff that.

936
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Speaker 2: I look at and I think this is unnecessarily complicated, uh,

937
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: and we don't need it. But to the other part

938
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Speaker 2: of your point, this is sort of of righting the wrong,

939
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: sort of gutting out the sickness that has infected this.

940
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Speaker 3: Area of the Constitution.

941
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Speaker 2: And I was talking earlier, Susie, just about the massive

942
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: change that has to happen in America. And it's got

943
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 2: to happen at every level, and a lot of uncomfortable

944
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: things are going to have to happen, and we are

945
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: going to have to look at things like the bra

946
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: and height.

947
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: Say, you guys, Civil Rights Act.

948
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: We're going to take a look at the end. Gay

949
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: rights is going to be up for debate here pretty soon.

950
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: A lot of change has to happen. I think, and

951
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: it's going to be really uncomfortable. What are your thoughts

952
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: on that, Sussie, Yeah.

953
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 6: I think so. It's one of those things where you know,

954
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 6: there was maybe course correction, but then there was over

955
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 6: correction and then just like the pendulum swings and so

956
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: many different issues, we've got that where it's like, Okay,

957
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 6: in an effort to make things quote unquote right, we've

958
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 6: overadjusted and now it's totally imbalanced and it's not working

959
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 6: right either. And you know that's competing against people who

960
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 6: do have agendas and people who do want things to

961
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 6: just go their way and not be equitable. I mean

962
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: that in the best way or just for everyone, And

963
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 6: it's just I mean, I guess that's politics in a nutshell,

964
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 6: isn't it.

965
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: I guess you're right. It's kind of a bummer, I guess.

966
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 6: I mean, this is something to talk and write about.

967
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, No, you're absolutely right.

968
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: Keeps me employed, for sure, but it does also keep

969
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: me frustrated.

970
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: But this is the way it goes.

971
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Everyone needs to put on their big boy underwear and

972
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 2: get in the game, Susie. Before I let you go,

973
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: tell everybody where they can find you online, where they

974
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: can find your work and tell us a little bit

975
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: about the Morning Minute.

976
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the easiest place to find me if you're

977
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 6: looking for my work is at Red State, because I'm

978
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 6: there all the time. That's what I do every morning,

979
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 6: every weekday morning I put out what we call the

980
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: Morning Minute, which is just a column that kind of

981
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 6: runs down what's going on in our government that day,

982
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 6: what's going on in Congress and with the presidency and

983
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 6: before the courts, and then I usually like to wrap

984
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 6: it up with a little what I call a morning musing,

985
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 6: just a little thought, well thought bubble, whatever's on my

986
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 6: mind that morning, just to kind of wrap it all up.

987
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 6: And today, of course, it was about dogs, which I

988
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 6: know you will appreciate, so I did.

989
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: I saw it today and I did appreciate it. And

990
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: you can find Susie on X at smoozie q and

991
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: definitely go follow her over there.

992
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: She's actually Susie.

993
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: I have to say, I always love your legal breakdowns

994
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: and your leak of your briefings, so to speak. They're

995
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: so valuable to someone like me who's just sort of

996
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: a lay person. So thank you for doing that out fire.

997
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. That is high praise, all right.

998
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: Susie, you go.

999
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: You got to get back to work. You're not allowed

1000
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: to be away from the desk for this long, so

1001
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: go go back to work. Thank you so much, Susie

1002
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: Moore from Red State. Everybody, I want to just piggyback

1003
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: before we go to our next break, and I just

1004
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: want to say that this is politics, right, and this

1005
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: is why you stay in the game even when it

1006
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: feels like you're losing, because you're going to lose and

1007
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: lose and lose and lose and lose, and then sudden, suddenly,

1008
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: one day something gets triggered, something happens, and you see

1009
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: a win. You don't get to see the win if

1010
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: you don't wade through all those loses. And man, I've

1011
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: been doing this fifteen years and I can count the

1012
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: political wins that I have had on one hand and

1013
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: use three fingers. All right, don't go anywhere. We'll be

1014
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: back with much more. I'm Kia Davis filling in for

1015
00:54:41,040 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats Today.

1016
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 3: Welcome back.

1017
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: It's Friday, everybody, Welcome back to Tony Kats today. I'm

1018
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 2: filling in for Tony. I'm Kira Davis. Thanks so much

1019
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: for spending a little time with me today. I was

1020
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: just trolling, patrolling or trolling X and I came across

1021
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Speaker 2: this story. Do you guys watch the Victoria Secret Show?

1022
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: Remember the run you know the runway model show. Oh,

1023
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: here we go. I also wanted to say I did

1024
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: get a nice message from Big John, Big John nineteen

1025
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Speaker 2: thirty three on X. He said, Kira, it's good to

1026
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: hear you on TK today. Driving back to Indianapolis, listening

1027
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: to you all the way back. Have a great day. God,

1028
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: bless You've got bless.

1029
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 3: You too, Big John.

1030
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1031
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: Jive safely out there.

1032
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, as I was saying, the Victoria Secret Passion Show,

1033
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got a million pictures in your mind

1034
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: right now. What it is?

1035
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: It's come back. They me too. Tried to push it

1036
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: away for.

1037
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: A while, and then we got the body positive Victoria's

1038
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: Secret Show, which listen, I've been up, I've been fat,

1039
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: I've been.

1040
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: Skinny, somewhere in between.

1041
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: Right now. I get it. I'm not into body shaming,

1042
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: but I am into marketing. And I know as a woman,

1043
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to see a woman on the runway

1044
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: who looks like me in her lingerie. I want to

1045
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: see a woman on the runway who looks like I

1046
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: want to look in lingerie. Right, that's the lie you're

1047
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: selling me that if I buy this product, I'll look

1048
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: like Heidi Gloom walking down the runway. So I'll have

1049
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: to say. Victoria's Secret had their fashion show and they

1050
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: put a transgender model on there. It's a transgender quote woman,

1051
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 2: it's a guy. His name is Alex Consani. I just

1052
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: retweeted this into my timeline if you want to go

1053
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: check it out on exits at Curate Davis.

1054
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: Alex Casani.

1055
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at a picture of him and he's

1056
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: got a red bra on this this is the runway,

1057
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: and he's got long blonde hair, and he's got red

1058
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: angel wings because you know how they do the show.

1059
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: And then he's got low cut pants on these satin pants.

1060
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: They're not it's not a bikini bottom, it's pants, and

1061
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: then sort of pulled down underneath his hip bone to

1062
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 2: reveal a g string sort of thing. Right, Obviously, that's

1063
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: how you dress a trans model for a lingerie show.

1064
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Because he's a man, you got to put pants on, right,

1065
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking for lingerie and not to get too blue

1066
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: because this is a radio show, But I'm looking for

1067
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: lingerie that fits me as a woman, right understands the

1068
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: angles and the cuts of my body. I don't need

1069
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: to be too graphic about it, but you all get it.

1070
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: We're all working with different equipment and so our undergarments

1071
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: feel and fit differently. No matter what weight you are,

1072
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: it just depends on your gender. So now I don't

1073
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: want to see a guy walking down the runway modeling

1074
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: my lingerie. But more than that, this is sick.

1075
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Speaker 5: This.

1076
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: I feel like this fits into what I've been talking

1077
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: about this whole episode, which is that we're going to

1078
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: have to have some uncomfortable conversations where we got to

1079
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: reset the culture here. We've gone way too far and

1080
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: is dangerous. It's very dangerous to have this gentleman. You

1081
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: can't see him, but if you look him up, it's

1082
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: very dangerous to be putting this gentleman out there as

1083
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: a model. How many years did we go through liberal

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Speaker 2: feminist friends at your behest? How many years did we

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00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: go through of pushing this body positivity movement because the

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00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: girls are too skinny? It's wrong that we we make

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 2: girls look at these models and they're so skinny because

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: they never eat and they live on cigarettes and vodka.

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Speaker 2: And then we put that up as a standard of

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Speaker 2: beauty and we're making them you know, bleem ink and anorexic,

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Speaker 2: and it's bad for the girls. That's how we got

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00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: the body positivity movement brought to you by the liberals.

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00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: And now the liberals want to put one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ten pound male who has no curves, like he literally

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00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: is built without curves. Right, he doesn't have hips, he

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00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: doesn't have breasts, he doesn't have a weight, a defined waist,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have the things that make a woman attractive,

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Speaker 2: particularly in lingerie. And he's the only This is difficult

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Speaker 2: for trans quote models quote trans models as well. The

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00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: only way for them to look particularly feminine is to

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Speaker 2: be super super skinny, so that they can mock the

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Speaker 2: look of a super skinny woman. Right, We'll look at

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: a super skinny woman and we'll be like, oh, okay,

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: she doesn't have like, you know, very healthy chest or

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Speaker 2: whatever by chest, but she's skiddy, so we would expect that,

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Speaker 2: and so you have to get the super skinny. So anyways,

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Speaker 2: not only am I now you Victoria's secret.

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Speaker 3: Now you're putting up a skinny model that my.

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Speaker 2: Daughter most certainly can never emulate and is giving her

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Speaker 2: mixed signals about what her body's supposed to look like

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: as a young woman. You're literally giving her an impossible standard.

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Speaker 2: She can never look like that, the same way this

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01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: man can never look like her because she's a woman

1114
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: and he's a man.

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01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: And we have to call it out.

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01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: We do. We need to talk about it. We have

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01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: to call it out. We have to shame these people

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01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: for this. It's not okay, and it's not a little

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01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: one off, and it's not like, oh well, we're just listen.

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Speaker 2: Somebody posted this in response, Margaret Mary Margaret Olahan. She says,

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Speaker 2: this is a twenty two year old guy whose parents

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01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: have been encouraging him to identify as trans since four

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Speaker 2: and sending him to a trans summer camp, putting him

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: through trans hormones, and signing him with a transmodeling agency

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Speaker 2: at thirteen.

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Speaker 3: They've been grooming this boy since he US four.

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Speaker 2: At thirteen, and now they have him in front of

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Speaker 2: the world to influence.

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Speaker 3: To recruit your kids, that's what this is.

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Speaker 2: It's recruitment. The enemy cannot create. They can only recruit.

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Speaker 2: These people can't make children. It's physically impossible. They can

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Speaker 2: recruit your kids. So don't think that this, Oh these

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01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: are awful parents. Oh I'm glad. I'm not like that parent. No,

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Speaker 2: they're the soldiers. They're the foot soldiers, and they're doing

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01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: their job and they have put out a soldier on

1136
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: the front line. That's this guy at the Victoria's Secret

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Speaker 2: Fashion show. So you absolutely should where you see it,

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Speaker 2: shame it. Share it to your Facebook, share it to

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: your personal feed. Even if you think it's going to

1140
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: make someone angry, share it and shame it. These people

1141
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: should feel embarrassed, they should feel ashamed, and we should

1142
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: no longer sit back and say, well, I don't want

1143
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: to cause any problems, and I don't want to hurt

1144
01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 2: any feelings. Hurt all the feelings. This is dangerous and

1145
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: it is killing our country. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: I'm Curre Davis.

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Speaker 2: I'm filling up for Tony Kats and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: It is Friday, October seventeenth, day seventeen of the government shutdown.

1150
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: I was just perusing X in the break and came

1151
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: across this post.

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: So as you guys know.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember now if I mentioned it at the

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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: top of the show, but US Attorney General, he's acting

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01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: Attorney General Bill is Saley, who was in our Assembly

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: here in California until very recently, and then Trump plucked

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01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: him out and made him the USAG for whatever the

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Speaker 2: Western District or wherever we are. I'm bad at this

1159
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: anyway you get it. He's an AG for the doj

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01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: here's all your acronyms here in CAA and he's Bill's

1161
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: been in it right, He's been in the muck and

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: a meyer of He's a Republican of California politics, and

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: he's been one of the lone voices in our legislature forever.

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01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: So he knows exactly where to go. He knows exactly

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: who to go after, which is I think is a

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Speaker 2: reason why Trump is appointing so many people like Bill

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01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 2: to the DOJ. Our Meat Dylan is there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a.

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Speaker 2: Whole California contingent there actually, and they're doing good work.

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Speaker 2: So one of the things that he announced yesterday was

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Speaker 2: that they are launching prosecutions against people who have defrauded

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Speaker 2: the state and the state of California and the federal

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01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: and by extension of the federal government, in homeless fraud,

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Speaker 2: in homeless funding. Okay, So, biggest criticism I get as

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Speaker 2: a Californian from people outside, both on the left and

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Speaker 2: the right, is why can't you guys deal with your

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Speaker 2: homeless problem.

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Speaker 3: You guys are so cruel.

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Speaker 2: You guys just walk by this stuff every day. You

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: see it every day and you look away. You don't

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01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: do anything. Oh that's not true. That's not how we are.

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Speaker 2: Californians are actually extremely generous with their homeless funding. Extremely

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: There isn't a tax or a measure that comes to

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01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: ballot that we don't pass, both locally and statewide. We're

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Speaker 2: in the hundreds of billions. We're in the hundreds of

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: billions in a ten year period, and we have nothing

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01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: to show for it but increased homeless rates and up

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: to twenty deaths a day on the streets of Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles alone.

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Speaker 3: So it's a big mess.

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Speaker 2: And Bill a Sale has said, no, we're coming after

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Speaker 2: these people because it's an industry. We can't fix it.

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Speaker 2: Because it's an industry. All it is is money. It's

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01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: just a money laundering industry. None of the money if

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: you give Think about whatever shelter is in your community

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01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: that you like. It's a shelter, or it's a homeless

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01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: a homeless center, or something that serves the poor people

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Speaker 2: of your community.

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Speaker 3: Think about that right now.

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Speaker 2: Picture it in your mind. Everybody's got something someplace that

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: you really like and you love for them to do

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01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: the good work. Okay, now picture that I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give this organization twenty billion dollars, twenty billion dollars,

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: and they can do whatever they want for the community

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Speaker 2: with this twenty billion dollars. What do you think that

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: organization could do? What would they do? How do you

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01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: think they could change the lives of the people in

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: your community?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: Double it and triple it and quadruple it, and ask yourself,

1211
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: how could you eliminate those problems with that type of money?

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Speaker 3: Right There's no excuse for it.

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: The left keeps telling us we just need more money,

1214
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: and we give them more money and they don't do

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01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: anything with it. And I think it's time that we

1216
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: all just stop pretending that this is how it goes.

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't go this way, and it doesn't have to

1218
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: go this way. But you obviously need leaders who are

1219
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: ready and willing to do the work of holding criminals accountable.

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01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: That's the other piece, right, It's not good enough for

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: me to talk about it.

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: We need leaders.

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Speaker 2: So Bill A Sale is doing that. But this is

1224
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: the reason why I brought this up. So some guy

1225
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: tweeted out his story after he saw that Bill a

1226
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Speaker 2: Sale was prosecuting.

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Speaker 3: He's prosecuting.

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Speaker 2: Cody Holmes. He's an ex CFO of Chankra Law Industries.

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Speaker 2: And when I read this tweets you, you're going to think, oh,

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Speaker 2: what an apropos name Chankra Law Industries for allegedly siphoning

1231
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: millions from the homeless housing funding for personal use. Okay,

1232
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: so this man named jonah is handle on x is

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Speaker 2: JVB underscore x y Z. I think I just retweeted, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just read. We retweeted it into my timeline. He

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Speaker 2: he posted this, He said, this is me. He just

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Speaker 2: went down the laundry list of his experience. Excuse me,

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01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: he says, landlord in La. It's talking about himself. Landlord

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: in La. Rent house in the Hills, Hollywood Hills, which

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01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 2: is a very pricey, exclusive neighborhood to twenty five year

1240
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: old CFO of a quote real estate company. He arrives

1241
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: in a lime green Bentley with influencer girlfriend and emotional support.

1242
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: Micro poodle stops paying rent, emails me a pdf from

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: the county website saying COVID related income loss. Nothing I

1244
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: can do because la No. He says, nothing I can

1245
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: do because LA equals anarchy. NonStop eyes, wide shut parties

1246
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: at my house. Dog melts my hardwood floors with atomic diarrhea,

1247
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: claims poverty on paper while bottle servicing magnums of ace

1248
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: in my pool. Private jets to Paris, to Loom, Miami, Vegas.

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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: Girlfriend showers with diamonds, brick and bags, red carpet chopper,

1250
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: to Tella, everything posted on Instagram, lesser be any doubt.

1251
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 2: Eventually moves out, I celebrate prematurely, sues me for eight

1252
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: figures the next morning, just to f with me. Two

1253
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: year legal war. Then he vanishes. Today the DOJ indicts

1254
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: him for stealing one hundred and thirty million dollars from

1255
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: California's homeless fund. May justice be served. That's what we're

1256
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: up against here, That's what we have to clean out.

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01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: This is the landscape in California. All these politicians talking

1258
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: about housing crisis, housing crisis. Well, the people who have

1259
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: homes to rent don't want to rent them because if

1260
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: you get a bad renter, you're screwed. You're up a creek,

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: you have no protection. So it's better for a lot

1262
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: of cases to keep your house. Either reserve your house

1263
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: for private use, or put it on the airbnb market,

1264
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 2: which comes with its own problems for every given community.

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: We're just against it. And I do think that California

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01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: is at a breaking point. I do, I do, And

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: a lot of you don't listen for California politics, but

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, maybe this is a this a little window

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: for you on this rare day where you get to

1270
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: have a California voice on the air. But I have

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: said it before, and I've been wrong. All Right, let's

1272
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: take it for what it's worth. I do think we're

1273
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: at the breaking point here. I think this is the

1274
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: series of unfortunate events, given what the DOJ is doing now,

1275
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: given that this house of cards is coming down. And

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01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 2: I want you to know, this is why Gavin is

1277
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: fighting so hard. This is why they're fighting so hard.

1278
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: They are losing. This is the last stand. California is

1279
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: the last stand where the jewel and that's why they

1280
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: don't want.

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: This is why they don't want voter id everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is why they're fighting this jerrymandering stuff tooth and nail,

1283
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: and it's why they fought so hard for the Supreme

1284
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: Supreme Court that the Left actually tried to kill a

1285
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: couple of Supreme Court justices. It's their last stand. I

1286
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: need you to know how.

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Speaker 3: Desperate they are.

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: And I think in the clip I played for you

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01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: from CNN, that is a word that one of their

1290
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: analysts used. She said desperate, desperation. Now she was using

1291
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: it in reference to JD. Vance and the Trump administration.

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01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: She said, they're desperate to evoke the insurrection insurrection acts.

1293
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: But you need to know that everything these people say

1294
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: and do is projection. If she's using the word desperate,

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Speaker 2: it's because they are desperate and that makes them dangerous.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We'll talk more about this on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the break, and I'll play you a clip

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Speaker 2: of why AOC things Republicans are winning men. It's a

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Speaker 2: great one. I'm Kia Davis sitting in for Tony Kats

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Speaker 2: and this is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartlier and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Welcome back everybody, two our three of Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Today. I'm your guest host just for today, Kira

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Speaker 2: Davis filling in from a good friend Tony Kats. Go

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Speaker 2: look me up online just Kiadavis dot com.

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Speaker 3: Start there.

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Speaker 2: H So, I'm almost I'm almost overwhelmed with the amount

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Speaker 2: that discussions that we have to get to today. There's

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Speaker 2: definitely a couple of different things that I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about. I want to talk.

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Speaker 3: About, you know what, maybe I'll do this. I'll talk

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Speaker 3: about what.

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Speaker 2: AOC has been saying about young men.

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Speaker 3: She had an interesting comment recently.

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Speaker 2: She was on whatever, MSNBC or whatever are they renaming

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Speaker 2: themselves or what?

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Speaker 3: When is that going to happen? What's happening?

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Speaker 2: You know, we had a lot of fun with all

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Speaker 2: those memes and then they never changed the name. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they got too sensitive about it. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: but she was talking about why, you know, she was asked,

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Speaker 2: why do you think Republicans are winning young men?

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Speaker 3: And the reason why I.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to talk to talk about this is that there

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Speaker 2: is another controversy going on right now and I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Tony has talked about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to bet he has, or at least briefly.

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Speaker 2: But there's another con and I'm using air quotes, controversy

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Speaker 2: going on where this text thread message text thread has

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Speaker 2: been exposed, and it's exposed some young Republicans, some college

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Speaker 2: Republicans from the East Coast, I think, and they were

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Speaker 2: writing racist, anti semitic, just a lot of dumb messages

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Speaker 2: to each other, and someone leaked those. I read a few.

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Speaker 2: I didn't read all of it. I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, I didn't read all of it. I read

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Speaker 2: enough to get the gist of of what they were

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Speaker 2: talking about, and then I've mostly just focused on the

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Speaker 2: responses because honestly, I don't think the.

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Speaker 3: Story is the story.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the story is the story. The story

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Speaker 2: is what we're going to let this do to Republicans,

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: that's the story. Because we're in this new age and

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Speaker 2: everybody's doing things differently, and we have to do things

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: differently too, and typically what we like to do is

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Speaker 2: just throw our people under the bus, do the apology tour,

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Speaker 2: and we just take another hit, we take another cut,

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Speaker 2: and it weakens us even more. And Democrats don't do that.

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Speaker 2: They just let their people go right, and we shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying we should put up with

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Speaker 2: corruption and terrible stuff, But what I'm saying is this

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Speaker 2: is sort of a bell Weather. This is a bit

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Speaker 2: of a test for the right because these messages were

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Speaker 2: you know, these are definitely things that if they get out,

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Speaker 2: they should affect you in some way. It's very distasteful

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Speaker 2: the way that Jay Jones's awful texts in Virginia should

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Speaker 2: have affected him, or should affect him in his ag race.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about assassinating Republicans. That should affect him. So

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Speaker 2: I get that, but I'm not saying this is nothing

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 2: to be concerned over. But I kind of am saying

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is anything to be concerned over.

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Speaker 2: Not the texts, it's the reaction that we should be

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Speaker 2: paying attention to. So I gotta tell you, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about I don't care about that. You

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Speaker 2: can go go to my Instagram, I cut a video

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Speaker 2: on I go to my Instagram. But just carea Davis

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Speaker 2: Jost Care Davis. I don't care what these boys were

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Speaker 2: saying to each other back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, looks bad.

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Speaker 2: Don't hire them from you for your campaign. Moving on, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's it's funny or even fun but

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Speaker 2: what I am saying is this, we've gone way too

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Speaker 2: far with this text message thing. Yeah, you got to

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Speaker 2: be careful what you text people because you think you're

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Speaker 2: just doing a one off, or it's just a poorly

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Speaker 2: expressed spot, or you're making a joke. But everything your

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Speaker 2: texts are always going to be taken out of context.

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Speaker 2: No one will ever have the context for what you

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Speaker 2: are texting because it involves a lot of prior conversations

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Speaker 2: and prior inside jokes and prior inside information that all

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Speaker 2: goes into this little communication. So I do think we

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: should be wary of even making a big deal out

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Speaker 2: of something like this, which was it was a as

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Speaker 2: far as I can tell, it was in a private chat.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't just a regular taxch back and forth.

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Speaker 3: It's a private chat.

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Speaker 2: So regardless of how you feel about why they have

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Speaker 2: feelings like this or not, and I'm not even sure

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Speaker 2: they do have feelings like that. This is what I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to say, we've gotten into this weird time where

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Speaker 2: of these weird expectations of young men and young women,

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Speaker 2: the left, the progressives. When I was coming up, the

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Speaker 2: progressives were like, hey, stop being so stuck up and

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Speaker 2: stodgy and buttoned up, and you know, come it's casual.

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Speaker 2: Come as you are. It's come as you are. On

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Speaker 2: this side, we're casual. We're not perfectionists like the right.

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Speaker 3: But they are.

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Speaker 2: They're are the perfectionists.

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Speaker 3: It's just, it's so.

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Speaker 2: It just it blows your mind that they are the perfectionists.

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01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: They want you to live a perfect life from the

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Speaker 2: moment you get online to the moment you die. They

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: need your life to be perfect. Otherwise you can't achieve anything.

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Speaker 2: You can't run a company, you can't run for office

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Speaker 2: because you made a bad text one time or told

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Speaker 2: a bad joke on Twitter. They are they are the

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Speaker 2: culture of perfection. So again, I'm not this isn't a

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Speaker 2: commentary about those boys are what they wrote actually, because

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Speaker 2: because I truly don't care, I truly do not care.

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Speaker 2: They have absolutely no impact on me. And I also

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Speaker 2: tell people all the time, I also never need to

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: defend any Conservatives. I don't need to defend other Republicans

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Speaker 2: when they behave badly. I'm not a conservative because of

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01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: other conservatives, right, I didn't. I didn't come over to

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01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: this side because I want a community that's It's not

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Speaker 2: what made me a conservative. Community's nice. That's nice when

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: I find it. My live in California, it's not much

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01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: of it. I've always lived in unfriendly areas to conservatives.

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01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 2: I came from Gary, Indiana before we moved here, so

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Speaker 2: I I forget what I was where I was going

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01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: with that point. Wow, I got brain bog today so much.

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Speaker 2: But I guess the larger point is this that that

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Speaker 2: I don't really care because they don't affect me. Right,

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't need. My conservatism doesn't depend on how these

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Speaker 2: people behave or anyone behaves. My conservativeism is rooted in

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: my ideology. I believe in limited government, lower taxes, a

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01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: secure order. I believe that God is above everything and

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01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 2: family above everything else. I believe in a government that

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01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: is for the people by the people, run for the

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Speaker 2: people by the people. I believe in the values of

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Speaker 2: faith and patriotism. I believe in school choice. I'm pro life.

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Speaker 2: This is why I'm a conservative. You could put those

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Speaker 2: text messages on a billboard in New York City and

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01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: blast them for forty eight hours straight, and it wouldn't

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: change anything about what I think about conservatives, conservatives or

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: conservatism right. My point of view, my ideas, my rationale

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01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: and reasoning do not depend on other people. So in

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Speaker 2: that respect, no, I'm not worried about them, and I

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01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: will never worry about anything like that. I have no

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01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: one to defend. It's not my job. But in the

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: other respect, I also think that this is we're going

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01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: to forget about this. A lot of you have probably

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01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: already forgotten about it. It's going to go away. And

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 2: that is why Republicans have always failed in situations like this.

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01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: They take everything so seriously and then they think, oh,

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: I need to respond to what I need to do something,

1447
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, you can actually do nothing and

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 2: just let it go away. But they make the little

1449
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: stuff big stuff, and then when we need to deal

1450
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: with the big stuff, we can't because we've allowed the

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: left to make the big stuff a thing. I'm going

1452
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: to give you an example. I'm going to bust out

1453
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 2: my school board here, Capistranto Unified in southern California. One

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01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: of our Republican school board members made the mistake. I'm laughing,

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01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 2: but it wasn't funny, But it was funny how the

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: left reacted. But she nice lady. She made a mistake

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: of reading from a book. We were debating whether or

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: not to include a book in the curriculum.

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Speaker 3: And it was a some kind of woke book.

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01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: And it had the N word in it, right, And

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01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: she was reading a passage from the book to as

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Speaker 2: an example of why we shouldn't have this book in

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Speaker 2: the schools, and she read the N word out loud.

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01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: Turned into a complete circus.

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01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: The left jumped on it.

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Speaker 2: They brought in the N double ACP to our lily

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Speaker 2: white school district. They brought in the N double ACP,

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Speaker 2: of which I am a member. They didn't know, like

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: you had a representative there. They brought in the NAACP.

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01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: It was crazy. They made her apologize. It's a Republican

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: led board, they have the majority, and they still made

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: her apologize. So she gave some kind of weak apology

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01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 2: that I didn't think was owed to anyone. But she

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01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: got herself into the mess, so she had to get

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 2: herself out well. I went to the meeting on Wednesday.

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01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: This was months ago. Everyone was six months ago. I

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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: went to the meeting yesterday and she apologized again. Now

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 2: this for the rest of us, this topic has come

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01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: and gone. I'm almost always the only black person at

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01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: that meeting. I was the only black person at that

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01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: meeting on Wednesday night. For me, this episode has come

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01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: and gone. It's absolutely meaningless. And somehow they managed to

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01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: keep the board worrying about it and thinking about it.

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01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: So this rep had to give another apology, and you

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: know what happened. The dogs came out.

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 3: It didn't play Kate anyone.

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01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: Then the very liberal, lunatic school board member Gary Pritchard,

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01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: who says he's a union stooge who led his way

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01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: back on to the school board after we got rid

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 2: of him. He's a horrible person who hates the job

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01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: and hates kids. And every time he's up there, he's like,

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't even look up. You know, I think he's

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: just playing on his phone. He's that guy. He never

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01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 2: says anything. But she gave him the opening to say something, right,

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01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 2: and so they, oh, I'm so disappointed, and you, miss Trustee,

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm devastating. We need a workshop so this never happens again.

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01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: His suggestion was a workshop. Yeah, we need to hire

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01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: some people for a workshop. And the whole thing started

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01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: over again. I bring it up to say that that

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Speaker 2: was weakness on the part of the Republican led board.

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01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: They should have squashed that from the start. You just

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: don't let it go. You just don't let it bubble up.

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01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: You do. You either put it She never should have

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: given the apology. But you either put the apology away

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01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: and then say we're moving on, or you get rid

1506
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: of he or you do something. But you have to

1507
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: take action. And this is my whole point. You got

1508
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: to set the tone. These people are coming for us,

1509
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: so you have to be willing. You have to be

1510
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: willing to tell the truth and hold people accountable, and

1511
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: then also not get so freaked out every time some

1512
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 2: idiot college kid or idiot candidate says something that looks

1513
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 2: bad in the national press. We don't have to claim

1514
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: those guys or what they said as any part of us.

1515
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: But the other part is their guys. They're guys being guys.

1516
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: And this is the thing that also makes an incident

1517
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: like this feel like it's a really big deal, and

1518
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: it's not. It's because we have not allowed boys to

1519
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,919
Speaker 2: be boys and men to be men in this country.

1520
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 2: We haven't allowed for it. So when we see boys

1521
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: being boys and men being men.

1522
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 3: We don't know how to react.

1523
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: So we were told forever by the feminists, boys will

1524
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: be boys. That's violence, that's that's a dangerous thing to say.

1525
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: That's mean, you shouldn't let boys be boys. Well, yeah,

1526
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: you know what they're that's a cliche for a reason.

1527
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes boys do need to be boys, not girls, and

1528
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: they don't need to settle things like girls. They need

1529
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: to settle things away that boys settle them, and they

1530
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 2: need to talk the way that boys talk. This is

1531
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: an interesting side note. So most of you, I'm going

1532
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: to bat out you're not gamers. I'm not a gamer either,

1533
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: but I.

1534
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: Watch a lot. Don't ask me why I'm a nerd.

1535
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 3: I watch a lot of gamer podcasts.

1536
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that's been going on

1537
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: in the gamer universe is this thing called gamer gate.

1538
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 2: You may have heard that, but really what it's their

1539
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: own version of cancel culture, woke cancel culture. A lot

1540
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: of feminists gamers came into the space, pushed out the bros,

1541
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 2: the gamer bros, and said it's too toxic here. You

1542
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: guys are too toxic. We need to change the space,

1543
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 2: and they canceled people and it was a big scandal

1544
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: and it's only now sort of shaking out. Along with

1545
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: all the other things that are going on, they're actually

1546
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 2: also having their own sort of correction in the gaming industry.

1547
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: It's slower than the rest of the culture, but it's happening.

1548
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: But here's why it happened. It happened because women, as

1549
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: women got into the gaming space, right, lots of you

1550
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 2: have daughters or wives that play too, and all kinds

1551
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: of fun things. There's nothing wrong with it if it's

1552
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: for entertainment. More women got into the space is what

1553
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: the gaming industry wanted. But when they got into the space,

1554
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: you're still a minority there. You're playing with men. Well,

1555
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 2: when men play games, I don't know if you guys

1556
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 2: have ever watched men play a game, maybe it's sports

1557
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: ball or something like that, but they tend to get

1558
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,919
Speaker 2: a bit aggressive and a bit salty and saucy. Sometimes

1559
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 2: they jostle, they fight, they push, they shove.

1560
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 3: But the way men do.

1561
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 2: It is and they do all that and then they

1562
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: go back to the locker room and it's done like

1563
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: it's on the field, you know what I'm saying. And

1564
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: that's how it is for most men. It's just on

1565
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: the field, it's at work, it's at the party they

1566
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 2: were at, it's at the bar they were at. They

1567
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: leave it there. They might get out of hand there,

1568
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 2: but they leave it there. That's how they settle things. Women.

1569
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 2: We hold a grudge, right, We're not going to settle anything.

1570
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: We're going to hang on to it and use it

1571
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 2: as a weapon for the next thirty years we do things.

1572
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 3: It has its advantages, trust me.

1573
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: So when we see boys being boys in public, we

1574
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: don't know how to react, and it does feel alarming

1575
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: to the majority of people. So we've seen these boys

1576
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 2: being boys in public, and then the complaining brigade on

1577
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: the left don't know what to do with it, and

1578
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 2: so they panic, and typically Republicans panic with them. But

1579
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: these are different times, and we have different leaders, and

1580
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: we're a different population right now, and I just don't

1581
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: think we're in the mood to tolerate it. So feel

1582
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 2: free to ignore this scandal if you want to. I'm

1583
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: giving you permission. Just move on and go register someone

1584
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: to vote or something, you know what I mean. Like,

1585
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: we have a lot of really important things to get

1586
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: done in this country, and nothing of what those guys

1587
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: said is going to affect it. They're not going to

1588
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 2: bring down any votes full of fentanyl coming into our country.

1589
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 2: They're not going to patrol one into the border. They're

1590
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: not going to register one voter. So just ignore it

1591
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 2: and go on. All right, when I promise I've been

1592
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: teasing it, I'm going to do it aoc when we

1593
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: come back. I'm Kieran Davis filling it for Tony Katz,

1594
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: and this is Tony Kats. Welcome back to Tony Katz today.

1595
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: I'm your host kie Davis filling in for my good

1596
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: friend Tony. I know I've told this story on the

1597
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: show before, but I actually saw Rick Springfield perform this

1598
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: song at a Christmas party many years ago. He clearly

1599
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: he did some other things. He clearly was dreading getting

1600
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: to that one. And finally the last song is like

1601
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: he takes it deep ride and goes, okay, let's get

1602
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: this over with. So I can appreciate that he's had

1603
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: to play this song a million times in his career,

1604
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, Rex Springfield, but it slaps you know,

1605
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: it's still rock.

1606
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 3: So it's it's your curse. It's the curse. And then

1607
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 3: the blessing of writing an incredible song.

1608
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, I've been promising you AOC because I want you

1609
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: to hear this clip of First, somebody asks her, why

1610
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: do you think Republicans are winning young men? And you

1611
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: might think, well, perhaps she's learned something about how we

1612
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: can go get young men too, but you would be

1613
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: thinking wrong. Let's play this clip from AOC, and.

1614
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 7: They are able to radicalize and target and exploit a

1615
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 7: generation of young boys, in particular, away from healthy masculinity

1616
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 7: and into an insecure masculinity that requires the domination of

1617
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 7: others who are poorer, browner, darker, or a different gender

1618
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 7: than them. And that is why they are resonating online,

1619
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 7: because they are appealing to the most basist and worst

1620
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 7: parts of human nature to divide again.

1621
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: It helps if you just look at everything they say

1622
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: as projection. Right, They're just saying how they reach out

1623
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 2: to men and how they recruit men. But isn't it

1624
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: incredible to hear a sitting congresswoman say that she needs

1625
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: men to vote for her And I.

1626
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: Love how we're doing. Let's not do this anymore.

1627
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Actually, let me challenge you listening audience, and I'm going

1628
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: to challenge myself to do this as well. The next

1629
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: time you're in a personal conversation, like a real live

1630
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: conversation with somebody and they bring up, for whatever reason,

1631
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: this idea of.

1632
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 3: These men are toxic.

1633
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 2: They hate black people, they hate brown people, they hate

1634
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: this is a.

1635
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: Program for.

1636
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 2: Black and brown oppressed LGBTQ and women. What they're saying

1637
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: is this applies to everyone but white men. You need

1638
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: to make them start saying it that way, because that's

1639
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: what they're saying. It's exactly what they're saying. Why can't they,

1640
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we know why they can't say it that way.

1641
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: Why shouldn't they Why shouldn't we make them say it

1642
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: that way. Let's see, you've listed all these groups of

1643
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: which AOC helpfully did, and blacker, and she's saying so

1644
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: angry about it, like it's bad that we're brown.

1645
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 3: Right, blacker, browner, darker.

1646
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: She sounds so harsh. You know, she's listening all these

1647
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: groups and you know, but really what she's saying is, look,

1648
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 2: everyone at all. White males are racist and they're recruiting

1649
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: white males. That's what she's saying. And whenever some Democrats

1650
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: stands up and talks about the bill that they're passing

1651
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 2: for single moms and LGBTQ and the black and brown

1652
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 2: people of the city.

1653
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Or when they stand up.

1654
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 2: And they say, this bill will hurt single moms worse,

1655
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: this bill will hurt women first and then black and

1656
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: brown people. What does that mean. There's only one single

1657
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: group of people then who are excluded from that group,

1658
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: and that is white straight males. Make them say it.

1659
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Tell us the group of people who are responsible for

1660
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: this AOC, tell us the group of people who are

1661
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: the bad voters. It's not black and brown, it's not LGBTQ,

1662
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 2: and it's not women. So who are the bad people?

1663
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 2: Say it? Say it with your whole chest and let

1664
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: the voters decide. All right, let's take a break. Oh

1665
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: we are coming to the end of the show, but

1666
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: we still got lots more. I'm Kia Davis spilling it

1667
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 2: for Tony Kats and this is Tony Katz today. Oh hey, oh, sorry,

1668
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 2: I didn't see you guys standing there. Get ready for

1669
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 2: the weekend. I'm getting my hot pants on, I got

1670
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: my headband, I'm gonna get my knee on out We're

1671
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 2: gonna go rock and roll. All right, everybody, Welcome back

1672
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 2: to the Tony Kats Show. I'm Kia Davis filling in

1673
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: for my good friend Tony Katz. I wanted to tell

1674
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 2: you this. I forgot actually tell you this, but TPSA

1675
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 2: is holding their own alternative super Bowl halftime show. Great idea.

1676
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: It TV USA is now I think the most powerful

1677
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 2: lobbying group in the in the nation. That's what Charlie's

1678
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 2: sacrifice has done for them, and I think we're going

1679
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: to be seeing a lot from them. They're going to

1680
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 2: be setting the standard for activism and governance. I believe

1681
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 2: for decades to come. They're going to be the new NRA.

1682
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 2: They're going to pull down a billion dollars this year.

1683
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: I mean they're they're going to be wildly powerful. So

1684
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: I think that this is like, this is perfect, this

1685
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: is what they should be doing. This is going to

1686
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: affect the culture. I'm sure you've heard bad Bunny. You

1687
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 2: may have never heard of him before they announced he

1688
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 2: was going to be at the halftime show. Now, I

1689
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 2: want to say this, I normally don't care about the

1690
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 2: halftime show because everybody's always upset about who performs right.

1691
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 2: It's never the right person. They're either too you know,

1692
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 2: too loose or too stiff for too rock and roll

1693
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,679
Speaker 2: or too country or too modern or too old. They

1694
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: hate America too much, or they love America too much.

1695
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 2: It's always we're always arguing over it, so I don't

1696
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: get too wrapped up in it, and then always a

1697
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 2: contingent doesn't like it. I loved Kendrick Lamar last year,

1698
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: and as a matter of fact, it still sits with me.

1699
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:15,440
Speaker 3: His performance.

1700
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of little nuggets and Easter eggs in

1701
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 2: there that were brilliant. His choreographer one an Emmy for that.

1702
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 3: Basically, if you watch the view from above, it's pretty genius.

1703
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Anyway. All that to say, well, like we differ, right,

1704
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 2: we all have differing opinions on it, fair enough, but

1705
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 2: I do share the concern over Bad Bunny, and I'll

1706
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 2: tell you why, because he is very vocally anti American,

1707
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: and this is the Golden Age. We're no longer into it,

1708
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: and this is the super Bowl. And so no, I'm

1709
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 2: not going to scold anyone for being upset that Bad

1710
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Bunny is going to play there. Why shouldn't you be upset?

1711
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: You're an American and the super Bowl is one of

1712
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 2: the most American things we do every year. It is

1713
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: literally a symbol of this country and who watches the

1714
01:32:56,360 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: super Bowl? Good old boy's Americans, women too, but we

1715
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 2: know we're there because the men are there, right like,

1716
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: it's a good old boys and they don't want bad

1717
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: but they don't want somebody who hates America. If you're

1718
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:17,719
Speaker 2: paying the NFL is asking people to sit down, take

1719
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: their time out of their day, pay money for whatever.

1720
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: Maybe they're paying for streaming, or you're just getting the

1721
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 2: money just through the whole advertising stuff, whatever, you're participating

1722
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 2: in this economic offering. You're asking people to sit down

1723
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 2: and watch your show because this is what Americans watch,

1724
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 2: and this is what Americans should watch. And you bring

1725
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: in a guy like bad Bunny. Yeah, I absolutely believe

1726
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Americans have every right to be upset by it.

1727
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 3: I suggest this.

1728
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 2: I suggest you turn off your TV for the halftime

1729
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 2: show or streaming or whatever. You can turn it back on,

1730
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: but what it does is it the algorithms will read that, right,

1731
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 2: they'll read that, and all those numbers will go into

1732
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: the data. So either don't watch at all or the

1733
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 2: super Bowl, or just turn I mean, I don't expect

1734
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 2: you to not watch the super Bowl. You should watch it.

1735
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 2: It's always fun. But then turn off the halftime show.

1736
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 2: Just see what that does to the numbers. But for TPUSA,

1737
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: they're going to hold a whole event. They're going to

1738
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: rent stadium out in Arizona. I think they're going to

1739
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 2: do it at Cardinal Stadium. I think Adam Sandler has

1740
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: already signed on. Guys, what I tell you at the

1741
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: top of the show, I said, do not think for

1742
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: one second that Charlie Kirks Memorial is not going to

1743
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 2: have deep, deep ripples in the decades to come. I

1744
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: know we left the memorial and then we all went

1745
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: our separate ways and we kind of had to get

1746
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,839
Speaker 2: back to life, unfortunately, because that's just how that goes.

1747
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 2: But don't think for one second that what happened that

1748
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 2: day at Charlie's Memorial did not have a profound spiritual.

1749
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 3: Effect on the entire country.

1750
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 2: So and pray for TPUSA, by the way, you guys,

1751
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 2: pray for the leaders, Pray for those people there. If

1752
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,799
Speaker 2: you're the praying kind, or think or send good thoughts.

1753
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't tend to think that's useful in any way,

1754
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 2: but if that works for you, do it. But listen,

1755
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 2: I do think that it's important that you keep in

1756
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: mind that these are very young people. For the most part,

1757
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 2: they have mentors, they have lots of experience people over there,

1758
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 2: but the people in leadership are very young. And while

1759
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 2: they have great experience, they still have youth. You can't

1760
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 2: buy years, right, you can't buy experience. And there's a

1761
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: lot of money suddenly, more than they've ever been used to,

1762
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 2: is suddenly floating around. And that's when people get caught up.

1763
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: They get corrupt, they get corrupted. I'm not saying that

1764
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm seeing that happen, not at all, not in any way.

1765
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is please pray for them that it doesn't.

1766
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 2: You know, they're very vulnerable right now, not to mention,

1767
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 2: they're mourning their brother and husband and friend, and that's

1768
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 2: making everyone extremely vulnerable. And then look, we saw what

1769
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 2: happened with President Trump first term. You get a bad

1770
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: team in and they can advise you poorly, and before

1771
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,759
Speaker 2: you even know it, you're making bad decisions. So pray

1772
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 2: for the TPUSA team, keep them in mind as they

1773
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: continue this incredible journey, that they will stay true to

1774
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: their mission into the gospel. But I'm really looking forward

1775
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl halftime. I'm going to be watching

1776
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 2: that Oh, I'm not gonna lie. I got to have

1777
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: to watch I'm going to have to watch the regular

1778
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl halftime because I'm going to have to report

1779
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 2: on it. This is like the trap of this job.

1780
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: You never get to just be enormy. You have to

1781
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: watch all the crap you don't want to watch. Every

1782
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 2: time I tell people like oh, I was watching CNN today,

1783
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I just get a hundred messages, Oh, why would you

1784
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 2: do that?

1785
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 3: Do you hate yourself? Well, no, I don't hate myself.

1786
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate myself when I'm watching CNN, but

1787
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't hate myself. This is literally my job. I've

1788
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 2: somehow trapped myself into a career in which I have

1789
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 2: to look at democrats every day, so some of us

1790
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 2: have to do it for a living. You know. They

1791
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 2: say debt is slavery, and I guess this is the

1792
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: kind of debt.

1793
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,520
Speaker 3: This is my debt to society.

1794
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm paying it to you. This is what I get

1795
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 2: for being a Democrat in the first place.

1796
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 3: Like all those years ago.

1797
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 2: This is what I get for being a liberal and voting,

1798
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 2: you know, voting Democrat when I was young and dumb.

1799
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 3: I'm paying the price now, I guess.

1800
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 2: Sorry, about that.

1801
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 3: I repent. I repent.

1802
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, let's take a break. Let's take

1803
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: one last break. We'll come out to close out the show.

1804
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 2: I got a couple more clips to play for you

1805
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. I'm Cure Davis filling in for Tony

1806
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: Katz and this is Tony Katz Today. Welcome back everybody too,

1807
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today, I implies, when you're having fun, we're

1808
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: at the end of this show. You know, we were chatting,

1809
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 2: chatting with our producer, our esteemed producer in the break,

1810
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 2: and he pointed out to me. Landon pointed out to

1811
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: me that it's going to be very ironic if indeed

1812
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: this is true that I I'm say, IM's going to

1813
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 2: show up the TPUSA event and Bad Bunny performs at

1814
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl halftime because Bad Bunny did a cameo

1815
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 2: in Happy Gilmore Too, Adam Sandler's most recent Netflix movie,

1816
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 2: So this will be a battle of the Happy Gilmore stars.

1817
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 3: You can't set this up.

1818
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: It's like Charlie's birthday is on the same day it's

1819
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: George Floyd's birthday, and now Adam Sandler and Bad Bunny

1820
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 2: going head to head. Not quite the same level of insanity.

1821
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: But it does feel like we're living in the matrix.

1822
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 2: It does feel like we're living in I feel like

1823
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 2: we're living in the craziest of timelines. You just can't

1824
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 2: make any of this stuff up. But you know what,

1825
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: good on TPUSA and Frankly, I mean, you know, I'm

1826
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: not one to suggest people reinvent the wheel.

1827
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 3: You don't have to go out there and have your

1828
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 3: own thing.

1829
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: But I really do hope that this is the beginning

1830
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 2: of more Americans and groups taking control and saying we're

1831
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 2: not putting up with letting the left give us this

1832
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 2: and call it entertainment. I will never forget I was

1833
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 2: sitting in a bar with my two girlfriends the Super

1834
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 2: Bowl performance where Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake performed, y'all

1835
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 2: know which one, I mean, the wardrobe malfunction, And I

1836
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: was in a bar in Chicago. I got the day

1837
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 2: off from mommy, right, my husband was like, you go

1838
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: out with the girls, go to the bar.

1839
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 3: I'll keep the kids.

1840
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'll keep the kids with me and

1841
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 2: we'll watch the game together.

1842
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: It was great.

1843
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 2: I was out, I was drinking, I'm free, having a

1844
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 2: good time watching the Super Bowl halftime show and watch

1845
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Justin Timberlake rip off the breast cover of Janet Jackson,

1846
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: knowing that my husband is at home with our seven

1847
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 2: or eight year old son watching this, knowing that my

1848
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: son has now just seen Janet Jackson's bear booth. I

1849
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 2: will never forget that moment, and that was that was.

1850
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 2: I think if we go back to when I got radicalized,

1851
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 2: I say now, I often say, oh, when I got

1852
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 2: radicalized the day that Charlie died. But maybe if I

1853
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: think a little further back, I think maybe I did

1854
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 2: get radicalized back then. I think maybe I think maybe

1855
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 2: that's when that was it, because that was the day

1856
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: when I was like, Okay, now I'm a mom and

1857
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 2: this is supposed to be for families, and don't tell

1858
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 2: me that this is just.

1859
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 3: How it is. I shouldn't have to.

1860
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to except that that that's just how

1861
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 2: it is. It's actually not how it is. That's why

1862
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,919
Speaker 2: we have the FCC, which we've let skate on all kinds.

1863
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 3: Of things because people just say, well, it's just how

1864
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 3: it is.

1865
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 2: Well, you know, yeah, we know that Congress does a

1866
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 2: lot of insight training.

1867
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 3: It's just how it is just how it is.

1868
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: We know. Yeah, sure, it's strange if you go into

1869
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 2: a job in the government and you have forty thousand

1870
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: dollars in your bank account. You work for the government,

1871
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: which supposedly it's like those poor government workers. You work

1872
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: for the government, and then you leave ten years later

1873
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 2: and you've got eighty million dollars in your bank account. No,

1874
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 2: it's not that's Oh, that's just how it is. No,

1875
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 2: it's not just how it is. We need to stop

1876
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 2: doing it to ourselves. Let's stop it. We don't have

1877
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 2: to decide that this is just how things are. We

1878
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 2: can admit that this is how things are. We can

1879
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: lament that these are this is how things are. But

1880
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 2: we don't get to just let it go. Everything needs

1881
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 2: your response these days, everything, because we're in this mess

1882
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: because we've let ourselves be bullied out of the responses

1883
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 2: because it's too much effort, it's too much work, it

1884
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 2: brings too much blowback. You know, I'm this Prop fifty

1885
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: here in California. We're running out of signs on the

1886
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 2: no side because so many people want signs for the

1887
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 2: rs and our cars. And so I was on a

1888
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 2: VD the other night and this lady said, look, don't

1889
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 2: wait for a properly printed no on Prop fifty signing.

1890
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 2: We need to get the word out. Go get a

1891
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 2: post reward from the dollar store and make a sign

1892
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 2: and put it in your window at home. No One

1893
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 2: Prop fifty.

1894
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 3: And I said, that's a great idea.

1895
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Maybe do it for your car too, And immediately, everyone,

1896
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 2: including myself because I realized my mistake right away, everyone

1897
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 2: said no, don't.

1898
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 6: Do that.

1899
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 2: Because why you know why, because they'll break they'll break

1900
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 2: into your car, They'll they'll smash up your car.

1901
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 3: That's what we have to worry about on the right.

1902
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 2: The left wing doesn't ever worry about the right wing

1903
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: protesters coming into their neighborhoods and smashing up stuff.

1904
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 3: They never have to worry about that.

1905
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 2: They're the ones that have to warn their protesters not

1906
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 2: to create violence. We're the ones that have to go.

1907
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 2: I can't put a simple political statement in my private

1908
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 2: vehicle without fear of being harassed or attacked physically.

1909
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 3: That's where we are.

1910
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 2: So the reason we're there is because we weren't giving

1911
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 2: our responses publicly. We were allowing ourselves to be pushed

1912
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 2: out just in the name of piece.

1913
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 3: We just wanted to be left alone. I get it.

1914
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not scolding you. I was there with you,

1915
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 2: like I get it. But we allowed ourselves to be

1916
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 2: pushed out, and then they didn't hear the responses.

1917
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 3: And then what happened was when they got to.

1918
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:16,839
Speaker 2: Hear a few responses here and there, like Tom Cotton

1919
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 2: writing in op ed in the New York Times, they

1920
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 2: freak out. They lose their minds because they've never heard

1921
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 2: a response and they don't know and it sounds like

1922
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 2: violence to them. So we need to keep giving our responses.

1923
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 2: We need to keep asking the uncomfortable questions, and we

1924
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 2: need to keep pointing out when they're wrong. Don't let

1925
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 2: them get away with this. I want to play let's

1926
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 2: see how much time you know what, Let's play this

1927
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 2: liberal clips a bit longer. I think we just clipped

1928
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 2: a short amount of it.

1929
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 3: But this liberal woman, she moved to the.

1930
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 2: Third world country.

1931
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 3: I had been wanting to talk about this, and maybe

1932
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 3: it's a good way to end.

1933
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 2: So this is liberal woman, And kudos to her for

1934
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,839
Speaker 2: being honest, getting in front of the camp and recording

1935
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: why she's trying to move back to the United States.

1936
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 2: She moved to Africa, a third world country, and you

1937
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,719
Speaker 2: know she's saying she's being honest, and she's just saying, Look,

1938
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't I moved here because of Trump, and it

1939
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 2: wasn't how I thought it was going to be.

1940
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 3: So let's just play what we have.

1941
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 8: You're an American who is considering leaving the country to

1942
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 8: move somewhere else, make sure that the location you choose

1943
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 8: isn't based base me. I regret moving to Costa Rica.

1944
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 8: It's a beautiful country. I love the nature and wildlife.

1945
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 8: But moving to a third world country where I don't

1946
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 8: know the language, I don't have any connections, resources, or

1947
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 8: opportunities that didn't make my life any easier by any means.

1948
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 8: I was just so scared of what's going on in

1949
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 8: America politically that I was in fight or flight. I

1950
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 8: was like, how am I going to afford to survive?

1951
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 8: Like how am I going to find a place to live?

1952
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 8: Like I was freaking out, And then I came here

1953
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 8: and made my life so much harder and now I'm

1954
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 8: trying to go back and I just like wish I

1955
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 8: didn't leave in the first place. And it's so weird

1956
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 8: to like want to move to America right now with

1957
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 8: everything that's going on.

1958
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 3: But I uh okay, kudos to Yuhan for making the vick.

1959
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 2: Can you imagine being an American citizen and being so

1960
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 2: scared of the duly elected president that you move to

1961
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: a third world country voluntarily and with no plan and like,

1962
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 2: this is how delusional liberals are. This is how delusional

1963
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: they are. Costa Rica, she said, I thought it was

1964
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 2: afric cost Rica. It's nice.

1965
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 3: Was once looking at buying property there myself many years ago.

1966
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't, But you know, this is this

1967
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 2: is who they are, right. They don't care about anybody else.

1968
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: They care so little about the rest of the world

1969
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: that they don't know how the rest of the world lives.

1970
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 2: They don't know. They think the.

1971
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 3: Rest of the world is like us, and they just

1972
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 3: some of.

1973
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 2: Them are living under an They got some bad cards,

1974
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 2: they're living under bad dictatorships. But once we show them

1975
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 2: all the love and acceptance, they'll be just like us.

1976
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 3: Liberty. You're not born into liberty.

1977
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 2: It's a mindset. You got to earn it, all right.

1978
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me, everybody. I'm Kia Davis. Join me

1979
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 2: over on ex at Real Kia Davis. Happy Friday. This

1980
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: has been Tony Kats today. Catch you on the foot

1981
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:21,520
Speaker 2: side