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Speaker 1: I come up at nine o'clock. Doug Bowls will join

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Speaker 1: us hundred days out from the Indianapolis five hundred. He's

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Speaker 1: a man that sits courtside quite a few Butler games.

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Speaker 1: Butler Seaton Hall coming up Sunday evening inside of Hinkle

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Speaker 1: Butler trying to go for the season sweep there over

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Speaker 1: the Pirates, talk more about the Bulldogs. He is the

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Speaker 1: head coach. He is stad Mada, and he joins us

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Speaker 1: here on the Payless Liquors hotline. Coach, Good morning, how

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Speaker 1: are we.

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Speaker 2: Doing doing all right? How are you guys?

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Speaker 1: Not too bad? Any update on Finley biz Jack? I

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Speaker 1: know that didn't look great the other night, him bracing

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Speaker 1: the fall at the left wrist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still waiting.

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Speaker 3: There was nothing like broken, but he just he's in

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Speaker 3: a lot of pain right now. So I would say

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Speaker 3: over the next couple of days, we got to gauge

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Speaker 3: see how he is and hope for the best.

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Speaker 1: I know the answer to this is probably no. But

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Speaker 1: like I'm looking at your bench the other night, I'm like, gosh,

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Speaker 1: you got more guys wearing the Project forty four shirt

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Speaker 1: than you do wearing a Butler uniform. It I mean

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Speaker 1: there's no way you you like, take what Brian Cardinals

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Speaker 1: kid's red shirt off. Is there anything you can do

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Speaker 1: roster wise this late in the season.

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Speaker 2: No, not really.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, we'll be go with what we got

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Speaker 3: and which is nine guys right now. And you know

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Speaker 3: it's funny that, uh, the other night against Yukon, I

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Speaker 3: think we use six different guys at the point guard

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Speaker 3: position throughout the game. And uh so you're just trying

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Speaker 3: to find ways to get us in our offense and

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Speaker 3: and uh, we've got to be creative throughout through foul trouble.

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Speaker 3: And you know, sometimes you get some dishovel lineups out there,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you got to got.

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Speaker 2: To figure it out. It's it is. It's an amazing

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Speaker 2: thing this year.

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Speaker 4: Coach, when you look around the locker room and you

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Speaker 4: know you have kind of a depleted team to a

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Speaker 4: degree due to injury. What are you saying to the

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Speaker 4: guys who are available about the fight, the grit you

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Speaker 4: need to finish the season in a manner in which

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Speaker 4: you can be proud of.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know it's just an old concept,

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Speaker 3: man down, man up, And you know we, uh I

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Speaker 3: thought the other night, our guys competed their tails off

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Speaker 3: and and uh, you know it's a we've got to

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Speaker 3: guys got to play when you go in the game,

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Speaker 3: you've you've got to make contributions. And it starts with

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Speaker 3: just the effort and the concentration and the focus of

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Speaker 3: what we're trying to do at that particular point. And

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Speaker 3: you know, like I said, I thought the guys did

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Speaker 3: a pretty decent job of that. Uh, you know, even

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Speaker 3: at the Marquette game last week without as Davivier and

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Speaker 3: Jamie Kaiser because Jamie was sick. You know, we just

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Speaker 3: it sort of was what it was and and uh,

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Speaker 3: trying to figure it out again.

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Speaker 1: Butler Seaton Hall coming up on Sunday, can hear that

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Speaker 1: right here on the fan pregave Cumber pregame coverage will

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Speaker 1: begin at five thirty. Coach, Obviously, we saw the Dan

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Speaker 1: Hurley comments, uh, you know, not only to you on

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Speaker 1: the court post game, but then in the press conference

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Speaker 1: the other nights. I guess from a resource standpoint, do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you guys are at the level you

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Speaker 1: want to be when you try to compare that to

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Speaker 1: other teams in the Big East?

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Speaker 2: No, not yet.

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Speaker 3: And but but like I said, this all long. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Grant's doing an unbelievable job of trying to get us where.

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Speaker 2: We need to be to be competitive.

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Speaker 3: And you saw the I'm sure you guys saw the

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Speaker 3: Rick Patino comments the other day kind of saying the

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Speaker 3: same thing, like the Big East has got to get back,

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Speaker 3: and you know, resource wise we had to do that.

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Speaker 3: But I got I got great confidence in Butler and

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Speaker 3: Grant of getting us where we need to be.

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Speaker 1: Would you I guess when you say the word resource

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Speaker 1: is it simply just saying we need more money? Is

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Speaker 1: mean Dan throughout the number of whatever, eight nine million?

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Speaker 1: Is that strictly what you mean when you say resource wise?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's just it's become such a and

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Speaker 3: it's so hard for people to understand this and unless

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Speaker 3: you're living in it every day, it's just such a

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Speaker 2: And you know, just go down the top.

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Speaker 3: Ten teams in the country right now and say, well, well,

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Speaker 3: I wonder what they've got, and uh, I think you'd.

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Speaker 4: Be shocked that you're a part of sort of that

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Speaker 4: older guard. Where again, when you started coaching, it was

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Speaker 4: so different. So I believe you might have ask you

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Speaker 4: this question before. But as you get further and further

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Speaker 4: into this new era of college basketball, how have you

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Speaker 4: personally perhaps had to adapt how you approach, whether it's

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Speaker 4: roster construction, how you talk to recruits, the possibility of

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Speaker 4: a recruit leaving for what they believe is a better

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Speaker 4: program or a bigger check. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 4: square all of that away with coaching the game that

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Speaker 4: you love, knowing that it probably wasn't what you expected

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Speaker 4: when you got into it.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure. You know, what we have to do

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Speaker 2: is is number one.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I know we talked about this earlier in the.

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Speaker 3: Year, but like, hey, we got to do a certain

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Speaker 3: about the university and what it stands for, you know,

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Speaker 3: but but you you've you've got to get players.

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Speaker 2: As well, and and we've got to develop our guys.

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Speaker 3: And you know, in a year like this year, uh,

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Speaker 3: terms of you know, not having injuries and and uh,

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Speaker 3: I went into the season with with some very very

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Speaker 2: And you know, even even.

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Speaker 3: If folks, it was out for five or six weeks

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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season this year, which which

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Speaker 3: kind of set him back, you know, because now he's

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Speaker 3: those those development games, if you will, in November and

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Speaker 3: the guys that that we need here, that that want

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Speaker 3: to be here, and that that we can develop get.

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Speaker 1: That moda with us here. It's Butler Seaton all coming

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Speaker 1: up Sunday at six o'clock. Coach. The other night, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get to whatever seven eight minutes left in the game, Finley, Bizjack,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jaia hadn't really been your typical scores. I thought

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Speaker 1: best I've seen them play in quite some time. What

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Speaker 1: did you think of Drayton Jones and Johanna Trore the

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Speaker 3: I thought they were really good, and we had challenged

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Speaker 3: them going into the game of you know, we needed

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Speaker 3: we knew we needed that position and obviously they locked

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Speaker 3: down on Finn and Michael and you know those guys

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Speaker 3: combining for eleven assist I mean, I thought offensively in

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Speaker 3: that game. I think we had twenty five field goals,

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Speaker 3: twenty one of them were assisted, and that's kind of

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Speaker 3: like a coach's dream, if you will. And and you know,

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Speaker 3: those guys were a big key to it because they were,

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Speaker 3: you know, not letting.

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Speaker 2: Them get shots off.

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Speaker 3: So but Michael and you know, I'm sorry Drayton and

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Speaker 3: you were were as solid as they were. And that's

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Speaker 3: that's the type of performance we need there.

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Speaker 1: And Butler beat Seat Haul on the road earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: They'll try to get the sweep over the Pirates coming up.

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Speaker 1: Reminder Sunday six o'clock, our coverage right here in the

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Speaker 1: fan at five thirty. Coaches always thank you, sir, all

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Speaker 1: right

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Speaker 2: Gay thanks every weekend