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Speaker 1: her book The Sacrifices of Superwomen. But to get a

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Speaker 1: But first let's get Kevin opened the classroom door for

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, Carl Nelson.

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Speaker 3: It's a wonderful Tuesday, the twenty fifth of November, and

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin. I don't learn a lot this

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Kevin. Twelve after the topic, Minister Christina Flowers,

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Speaker 4: Oh grand Rising, to you call and all your great listeners.

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Speaker 4: Brand Rising Happy tell the truth to be over here

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Speaker 4: in our neck of the woods. And it's always an honor.

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Speaker 1: Well that thought right there, because we're gonna step aside

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Speaker 1: I guess his minister Christina Flowers, she is from Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: No, And Carl, we just had an eviction last week

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty two half the top that Bill Gooden has

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Speaker 4: You know one thing about still in the fight. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that would have to be something that Brother Goodings would

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Speaker 1: Grassroot gotcha twenty six after the top of the hours

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Speaker 5: Good morning everybody, and Bartimay, wish you hold your listen.

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Speaker 5: Is a meaningful and happy Thanksgiving holiday? Does coming Thursday?

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Speaker 5: Good morning past the Flowers. I'm a part of a

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Speaker 4: You know, an emergency placement. Even if the police officers

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine after the top of our family just waking up,

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Speaker 4: I called this alley is always in existence, and I

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Speaker 1: Wow, family, we got to do better. We must do better.

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Speaker 4: you know a lot of kids is experiencing homelessness as

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Speaker 4: a family with their moms. So you know a lot

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Speaker 4: of kids will trickle off and go into the vacant

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Speaker 4: and abandon houses. You know, we've had some issues with

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Speaker 4: even losing some of the lives of kids that has

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Speaker 4: been found in some of these vacant houses. So every

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Speaker 4: area of homelessness have an increase going on. It is

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Speaker 4: a crisis.

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Speaker 1: Car Wow twenty eight away from the top of our

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Speaker 1: family with Christina Flowers or the homeless African in Baltimore City,

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Speaker 1: and Baltimore has a lot of abandoned buildings, houses that

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Speaker 1: are just boarded up and they're not being used. And

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Speaker 1: I know at one point there was talk about openings

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Speaker 1: of those buildings, rehabbing some of those buildings, and you know,

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Speaker 1: making them available not just as the homeless, but people

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Speaker 1: can combine these these buildings. Has anything changed on that level,

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Speaker 1: Aminist Flowers, Do you know if anything has changed, because

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Speaker 1: we could get some of the folks off the streets,

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Speaker 1: if that is, if that is happening or in progress.

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Speaker 4: Again, carl I got to go back to the statement

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Speaker 4: engagement you're talking about when you're seeing the vacant houses,

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Speaker 4: when you're seeing the spaces that we could be occupying

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Speaker 4: and using. You're talking about, you know, a dollar house

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Speaker 4: that they want you to have one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: in your bank account. For a lot of public information

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Speaker 4: that's put out there as a solution, it has a

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Speaker 4: lot of restrictions to it when the grassroots may choose

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Speaker 4: or desire to access that. You know, we had Alice Kennedy,

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Speaker 4: she was standing there with Secretary Jake day two. And again,

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Speaker 4: when you have these entities that do not engage solutions,

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Speaker 4: they do not engage the grassroots nonprofits to work with,

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Speaker 4: then we have an increase on these issues because no

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Speaker 4: one is enforcing some of the solutions to be used

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Speaker 4: towards the population of homelessness. You know, they got to

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Speaker 4: be generous enough, even behind the walls of city Hall,

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Speaker 4: to allow some of these places to be occupied by

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Speaker 4: the nonprofits that make can't meet their financial requirements.

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Speaker 8: They willing to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a tweet question for you, mister Flowers

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Speaker 1: two and says, are many of the homeless veterans and

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Speaker 1: families or just a paycheck away from and they want

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Speaker 1: to know if the recent shutdown increased the homeless population

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: I think I spoke what I said when I first

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Speaker 4: came on. We are definitely having more engagement of veterans again,

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Speaker 4: these veterans. Speak about one of the veterans I spoke

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Speaker 4: to the other night, he feels like he lost his

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Speaker 4: trucking contract since the bridge fell down. He's he's sleeping

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Speaker 4: up under Saint Paul Street. He said he had a

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Speaker 4: full blown trucking company and when the bridge collapsed, a

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Speaker 4: lot of the consequences fell on a lot of truckers.

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Speaker 4: So that was some information that I felt. You know,

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Speaker 4: everything that's happening right now, people are being affected by

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Speaker 4: and being driven and to some type of poverty situation

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Speaker 4: or homelessness.

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you this because it's just the

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Speaker 1: season of giving, you know, people, there's something about the

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Speaker 1: Christmas time that some people seem to be happy and

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Speaker 1: that they feel like giving and giving presents and then

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Speaker 1: they want to help people in feeling all it's been

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Speaker 1: elving when it comes to helping people. Are you seeing

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Speaker 1: an increase in people want to donate to your carts

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Speaker 1: this time of the year.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yes, yes, we definitely do. Matter of fact, call

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Speaker 4: to give a shout out to Miss P. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: just say Miss P she's one of your listeners and

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Speaker 4: last month she's been reaching out to me and been

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Speaker 4: very helpful with day to day supplies. So yes, people

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Speaker 4: do understand the importance of their generosity and the importance

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Speaker 4: of their giving, especially to organizations you know that may

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Speaker 4: not be caught up in that grant and that funding outlet.

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Speaker 4: You know, we just operate day to day with the

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Speaker 4: sustainable funds that we get from individuals to help us

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Speaker 4: do and some of the projects and consultant. So we

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Speaker 4: definitely is in great need of the support of the people.

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Speaker 4: We are definitely in great need of donations, whether it's blankets.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Brother Joe because they're going to be

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Speaker 4: having a blanket drive for us the winter Coach right now.

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Speaker 4: Everything that's within season we are definitely in need of.

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Speaker 4: So I always encourage individuals to consider us as a

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Speaker 4: recipient to help us do the work that we're doing

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Speaker 4: here in Baltimore City on the grounds all right.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four way from the top of I got to

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Speaker 1: check the news and traffic coming up, and you know,

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Speaker 1: speaking of that clothes, I think we need to drive

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Speaker 1: there at our DC station instead of drive to help

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Speaker 1: the homeless too in the DMV, and also there's a

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Speaker 1: homeless advocate in the DMV that you're working closely with

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Speaker 1: as well. If you can talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: get back family, you two can join this discussion. Reach

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Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six. Our guest minister, Christina Flowers. She's

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Speaker 1: a homeless affricate in the city of Baltimore, trying to

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Speaker 1: help the less fortunate, and you two can help, and

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Speaker 1: if you want to know how, just call us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,

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Speaker 1: and we'll take all your phone calls after the news,

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Speaker 1: traffic and weather. That's next and Grand Rising family. Thanks

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Speaker 1: are waking up with us on this what is it?

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning? Here with our guest mister Christina Flowers from Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: She works with the homeless in that city. Before we

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Speaker 1: go back to it, let me just remind you. Coming

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Speaker 1: up late this morning, we're gonna speak to the co

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Speaker 1: founder of Black Voters Matter, Latasha Brown. She's gonna explain

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Speaker 1: why we should be selective in our purchase of this

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Speaker 1: holiday season. Then we're gonna have a discussion about h

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Speaker 1: RAP Brown And before we had that discussion, the author

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Speaker 1: and sociologist, doctor Andrea Sullivan will join us. And later

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Speaker 1: this week you're gonna hear from multi talented researcher brother

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Speaker 1: Katiah Wadu, also futuristic researcher brother Saideca Bacari and his story,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Limo Tip will be here. So if you're

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, make sure keep your radio locked in tight

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Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB or if you're a DMV around

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifty w o L. All right, mister Flowers, you're

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Speaker 1: working also in conjunction with the homeless advocates in the

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Speaker 1: DMV era, can you share the information with us, we

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Speaker 1: still have missed the flowers with us.

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Speaker 7: Car I read that we have the kings and Queens

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Speaker 7: of homelessness. And when I think of the work that Sister.

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Jalencia does in DC. You know, this is a

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Speaker 4: young lady that went on a tour with me probably

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Speaker 4: about six years ago. I took on a tour of

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Speaker 4: encampments in the woods and she has a strong background

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Speaker 4: and modeling in all types of fashionable things. But when

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Speaker 4: she left that what we did, she went back to

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Speaker 4: d C and she started feeding every Saturday outside of

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Speaker 4: the mid Snider Shelter. So the great part about that

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Speaker 4: is Sister Jennifer will also be visiting and being a

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Speaker 4: part of the Wolb family because I do believe it's

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Speaker 4: on Saturday, she's going to start having a show come on.

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Speaker 4: And now they give an opportunity for people in d

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Speaker 4: C to really connect with some grassroots because she too

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Speaker 4: definitely operates out of ministry. You know, when I think

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Speaker 4: about the work she do, the commitment that she has

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Speaker 4: made to those individuals at the Midnighter shelter. She's definitely

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Speaker 4: someone that DC should be looking forward to, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, because the homeless problem is it's all over this country,

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Speaker 1: not just confined to Baltimore, but the rest of the

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Speaker 1: country needs a minister Christina Flowers to help the homeless

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Speaker 1: or the un housed, if you will. When you the

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Speaker 1: people are looking for places to stay at, Minister Flowers,

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Speaker 1: I got ask you this question. Do they look like us?

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Speaker 1: Most of them look like us?

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Speaker 4: Well, we have a mixed population, a brother, Karl, A

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Speaker 4: lot of them look like us. When it comes to

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Speaker 4: individuals suffering with the substance of suffering with the mental health.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of them do look like us.

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Speaker 4: But we still have a strong mixed population. That is

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Speaker 4: really hard to discern the difference. You know, we can't.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to look at them when they're suffering, you know,

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Speaker 4: living in a tent or sleeping in a inhumane situation.

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Speaker 4: So it's hard to try to determine the difference.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, though, there was a

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Speaker 1: time though we didn't see it homeless people, you know,

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Speaker 1: unless there was some probably junkies or they wanted to

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Speaker 1: be out there. And it depends on where you grew up though. Actually,

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Speaker 1: but there was a time there was more and more

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Speaker 1: compassionate in the black community. If somebody needed something, you

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Speaker 1: could help them out. But somehow this the later generation,

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Speaker 1: seems like all of this has changed. Have you noticed

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Speaker 1: that there's more fear.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of fear has set in when

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Speaker 4: it comes to engage in the homeless community. A lot

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Speaker 4: of people. You know, when you don't have some of

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Speaker 4: the trained skills of engagement and how to see certain times.

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Speaker 4: I believe that's what happens. That's why, you know, being

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Speaker 4: specialists and working at this every day, I know God

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Speaker 4: is open in a way, so we could bring more

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Speaker 4: awareness and give people the tools and the ability to

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Speaker 4: just be able to engage them, engage them safely, because again,

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Speaker 4: when you see them, they could be having a mental issue,

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Speaker 4: they could be dealing with a lot of trauma. So

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Speaker 4: once we get the floodgates open call and have more

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Speaker 4: trainings and have more opportunity to equip and in power

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Speaker 4: not only us, but our churches, our bishops, our ministres,

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Speaker 4: this is an area that we look in to break

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Speaker 4: relationships with because equipping and empowering the saints is a

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Speaker 4: part of the ministry, and we got to be equipped

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Speaker 4: and empowered with dealing with humanity. When we're talking about homelessness,

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Speaker 4: you gotta look at it. You can't discriminate with it.

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Speaker 4: You gotta know how to approach it with loves. I

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Speaker 4: tell people with love is if they're acting up or

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Speaker 4: they in a behavior crisis, you gotta utilize the resources

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Speaker 4: and hold those resources accountable. Someone called me last night

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Speaker 4: and it was late.

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Speaker 8: It was a.

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Speaker 4: Homeless lady outside And the first thing I thought of,

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Speaker 4: call nine eighty eight because I've been utilizing nine a

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Speaker 4: eight call and they've been very resourceful when it comes

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Speaker 4: to listening, talking on the phone and even sending people

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Speaker 4: out to the homeless community. So one of the things

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Speaker 4: is advocates, we really got to be mindful of the

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Speaker 4: public resources and we got to be the one to

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Speaker 4: enforce and make it sure that they come through. Like

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Speaker 4: when I get nine eight eight on the phone, I say, look,

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Speaker 4: the commercials say y'all will show up. I need y'all

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Speaker 4: to show up, you know. So it's really about accountability.

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Speaker 1: Call got you ten away from the top down family.

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Speaker 1: I want to just think about the homeless, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially this time of the year. Many of you are

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Speaker 1: going to engage in this Thanksgiving dinner. The food is

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Speaker 1: wasted because you know this, never everything's eating. There's a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of food that's left over. Now, I've got

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Speaker 1: folks who haven't eaten probably in days who would be

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Speaker 1: grateful for some of that food that you're probably going

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Speaker 1: to throw in the trash. Is a way and I

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Speaker 1: don't want and be kind family, just just don't you know,

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Speaker 1: just you know something that you messed over, maybe a

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Speaker 1: pie that has uncut or something, or some meat that's untouched.

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Speaker 1: If they know that, can can they get that those

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Speaker 1: extra places of food to you? Or flowers?

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Speaker 4: If I may call one of the things we're encouraging

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Speaker 4: people to do, to get some carrying trays, you know,

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Speaker 4: the carrying trays, and you may fix some extra food

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Speaker 4: and the carrying tray. You may sit it in your car,

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Speaker 4: you may put it in your back seat. But when

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Speaker 4: you get these carrying trays and you see all that

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Speaker 4: extra food, the leftovers, it will encourage you to fix

654
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Speaker 4: a plate, fix a plate for someone, give a plate

655
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Speaker 4: to someone they may be leaving and say, hey, take

656
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: this extra plate. You gotta think of things that we

657
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: can operate in when it comes to our generosity, when

658
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: it comes to our urban because it may not be

659
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Speaker 4: you that go out to the encampment. You may not

660
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Speaker 4: do it personally, but you have the opportunity to be

661
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: able to fix a plate, you know, make sure someone's eating,

662
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: get the extra carrying trays for the holidays, because that

663
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Speaker 4: will eliminate all of that extra food that you're talking about.

664
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Speaker 4: Trust me, once you start fixing plates, they will definitely

665
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Speaker 4: leave your house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it because there's so much food and this

667
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Speaker 1: you know, if you've got to these Thanksgiving dinners, there's

668
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: always a lot of food that's wasting stuff always most food, Yeah,

669
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Speaker 1: that ends up in the trash. So, family, if you

670
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Speaker 1: can figure a way wherever you're listening to us today,

671
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: after you've had that Thanksgiving meal, you know, go down,

672
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Speaker 1: if you're in La, go down the sched role down there.

673
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Speaker 1: We used to do that a lot every Thanksgiving Day.

674
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Speaker 1: And just health of folks who don't have you know,

675
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Speaker 1: don't have the ability to have a meal like like

676
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Speaker 1: you have. The sad thing about it, though you can

677
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: go home to your nice, warm house, they have to

678
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: sit there and you know where your next meal is

679
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: come from they don't. So if you can do something

680
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Speaker 1: for the homeless, especially this time of the year, we're

681
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: really really appreciating family because bottom line is where all

682
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Speaker 1: we got. The other folks are not going to help us,

683
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Speaker 1: you know, so we've got to help ourselves. But minister fly,

684
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Speaker 1: how much of the unhoused have emotional problems? And put

685
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Speaker 1: it that way, well, you have you.

686
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Speaker 4: Have a great percentage of our un housed that have

687
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Speaker 4: mental problems, substance abuse problems, and a lot of these

688
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 4: problems call we know will exist. But you know, having

689
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Speaker 4: this opportunity to be able to put this information in

690
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Speaker 4: a conversation again even to you know, some of the

691
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Speaker 4: great folks you're going to have up on here, you know,

692
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Speaker 4: it just give us an opportunity to think about humanity.

693
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Speaker 4: I don't care how successful we are, how brilliant God

694
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Speaker 4: has allowed us to be, we have to always think

695
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: about humanity in a solution because when you think about

696
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Speaker 4: focus giving as well, Carl, a lot of people this

697
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Speaker 4: time of year, like you said, they feel extra generous,

698
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: they feel extra wanting to give. Let's focus giving and

699
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: focus giving for us, especially in the grassroot community. And

700
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Speaker 4: I tell people, you know, reach out. You know, they

701
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: feel free to call me if they call me because

702
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: they know I will be out delivering plates. You got

703
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Speaker 4: some plates for me to come pick up.

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Speaker 9: Let me come pick up your plan.

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Speaker 4: We always trying to create and develop ways to keep

706
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Speaker 4: the general community in, the average individual with the heart

707
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Speaker 4: to give, to want to give. So I always put

708
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: that out there. We always looking for volunteers as well,

709
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Speaker 4: if you want to help us serve, if you want

710
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 4: to serve where you at. You know it doesn't take

711
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: a lot to go and serve our unsheltered poper And

712
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Speaker 4: I know it's different and every community, every district, homelessness

713
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Speaker 4: shows up in different ways. So it's our community and

714
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Speaker 4: that's what we got to think of doing serving.

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Speaker 1: It's so true and as I mentioned, many of us

716
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Speaker 1: are just maybe one paycheck away from joining that crowd.

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Speaker 4: So we can't look down a lot of new comings.

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Speaker 8: A car.

719
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Speaker 4: Homelessness is new to a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but are you seeing an increase on up because

721
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Speaker 1: of the especially with the federal jobs to shut down

722
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Speaker 1: and then even the private companies are laying people off as.

723
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Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people, a lot of people are

724
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Speaker 4: seeking resources called and I'm going to say, I don't

725
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Speaker 4: care if it's the snap benefits. I don't care if

726
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: it's something to help them with some form of their household.

727
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Speaker 4: Every a lot of new people are seeking ways to

728
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Speaker 4: get some financial assistance, to get some help right now.

729
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 4: So again, you know, we we got to think of

730
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Speaker 4: how we can be an impact to those individuals' lives,

731
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Speaker 4: not just homeless. You know, some people are in their

732
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Speaker 4: houses and dealing with eviction for this holiday. You know,

733
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Speaker 4: some people got notices on their door. Some people don't

734
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Speaker 4: know what their Christmas or their Thanksgiven going to be like.

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Speaker 4: So everybody is dealing with this situation in a lot

736
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Speaker 4: of different ways, even if it's in your family. We

737
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Speaker 4: have a tendency of thinking we don't know individuals that's

738
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Speaker 4: dealing with eviction or dealing with homelessness. But some of

739
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: us will be surprised our own family members can be

740
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Speaker 4: dealing with it and not publicly talking about it.

741
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Speaker 1: So true, and some people don't want to talk about

742
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Speaker 1: it because they're embarrassed, you know. Yet, yeah, so how

743
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: do you counsel those folks that though? And mister Flowers,

744
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: they don't obviously they don't want folks to know that

745
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: they're job and that they don't have any savings or

746
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: their savings have been evaporated, trying to stay warming, to

747
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Speaker 1: stay in the building, and now they're on the street.

748
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Speaker 1: How do you help them?

749
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Speaker 7: All we can do, all we can do call is.

750
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Speaker 4: Rely on ministries, rely on the mentors and individuals to

751
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: help us counsel. Like it's not a it's like a battle.

752
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: And when you see people dealing and facing homelessness for

753
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: the first time, it's really like a battle because they

754
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Speaker 4: be the ones that be like.

755
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Speaker 7: But I heard this on the news.

756
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Speaker 4: Can I just go and do this? Like it's so

757
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 4: many restrictions and such a process when you're trying to

758
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Speaker 4: access some of these services, and some people wait to

759
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Speaker 4: the last moment.

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Speaker 8: Call.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I would like to encourage all my

762
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Speaker 4: sisters and brothers, like, don't be embarrassed. Don't wait to

763
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Speaker 4: that last moment if you know you got that eviction

764
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Speaker 4: or you're facing something, because it really takes a village,

765
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Speaker 4: Like it's going to take people to pull together. Like

766
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: I got resources. I feel like I can make things happen,

767
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: but I will be much more powerful if it comes

768
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Speaker 4: in a pace where we all can deal with it together.

769
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Speaker 4: It is bigger than me. You know, Homelessness is bigger

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Speaker 4: than one entity, is even bigger than some of our

771
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: political faces that want to represent it. But you know,

772
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: we got to kind of address this like a strength

773
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Speaker 4: in numbers. And that's where it's leave.

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Speaker 1: Nothing right there, minutes the Flowers. We got to check

775
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: the traffic weather at different cities when we come back, though,

776
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Speaker 1: I want to find it. It says it's bigger than you.

777
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: But what drives you, what keeps you, what compels you

778
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: to be on the streets and helping the homeless, and

779
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Speaker 1: we want to hear your story. Family, YouTube can join

780
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Speaker 1: this conversation with Baltimore's minister Christina Flowers. Are trying to

781
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Speaker 1: help the homeless in that city. Reach out to us

782
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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

783
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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls after the trafficking weather together,

784
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Speaker 1: it's next and grand rising. Family. Thanks are starting your

785
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Tuesday with us. And I guess Baltimore's minister Christina Flowers,

786
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: she's a homeless advocate in the city. She works tirelessly

787
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Speaker 1: to help the homeless and also come up to the momentary.

788
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Speaker 1: We're going to speak with doctor Andrea Sullivan is taught

789
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Speaker 1: by some Bold Sisters with doctor Sullivan. But first it's

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Speaker 1: rapper with Minister Christina Flowers. Before you answer my question, though,

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Speaker 1: Minister Flowers. Gelona is calling from Baltimore online too, Grand Rising, YORLANDA.

792
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Your question or your comment for Minister Flowers is Geelanda

793
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: there online too?

794
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: Hello?

795
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Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

796
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Speaker 1: I can hear you?

797
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 10: Now go ahead, Okay, I just I'm calling from Capitol Heights, Maryland,

798
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Speaker 10: and I want to say thank you so much Christine

799
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Speaker 10: Flowers for what you do. It's people like you who

800
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 10: makes the difference in the world and then it shines

801
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 10: through I was telling them for my sixtieth birthday, which

802
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 10: I've always fed the less fortunate, But for my sixtieth birthday,

803
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 10: I had a fifty five passenger coach bus pull up

804
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 10: at my birthday libration, Me and fifty five of my guests.

805
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 10: We went out and we fed the less fortunate. I

806
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 10: had purchased two hundred meals from Feed the Fridge, and

807
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 10: also we went out on a Good Fas tour after that.

808
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Speaker 10: But on my fiftieth birthday, I went to New Orleans

809
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 10: and did three random acts of kindness. So and you

810
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 10: can look me up on YouTube The Land of Price

811
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Speaker 10: sixtieth birthday.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you for what you're doing.

813
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: All right, Elanda, thank.

814
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 10: Thank Christine Flowers. She is she is out there and

815
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 10: she's just doing it. And I'm just so proud. I

816
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 10: don't know her, but I'm really proud of her. Maybe

817
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 10: her and I get a chance to work together.

818
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Speaker 1: Oh sure, we'll see if we can make that happen.

819
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Speaker 1: Because my question before we left in the traffic and

820
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Speaker 1: weather up there, was from mister Flowers, what makes you

821
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: do it? What? What?

822
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Speaker 8: What?

823
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Speaker 1: Because you know you could be doing other things. You're

824
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: out there helping the homeless, getting having conversations with people

825
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: that want to talk because they look a certain way

826
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: or me smell a certain way. But you're out there

827
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: doing the world and you're doing it tires. How long

828
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: have you been doing it? First? And what makes you do it?

829
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: And what keeps you doing it?

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00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 8: You asking me that question, yes, ma'am.

831
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 10: Oh, yes, Well I grew up in a home, abusive home,

832
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 10: and thank God, when my grandfather took me, I was

833
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 10: in the fourth grade and I prayed to God and said, Lord,

834
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 10: please let he was sixty some years old. I said, Lord,

835
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Speaker 10: please let him be.

836
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Speaker 5: There for me.

837
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Speaker 10: I always be there for him. My grandfather died in

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Speaker 10: two thousand and three. He was ninety eight years old.

839
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Speaker 10: But all my life I have always tried to help

840
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Speaker 10: people who were at a disadvantage. So helping the less

841
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 10: fortunate is what I stand for. I've taught my kids

842
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 10: that too, you know, to stand up for people can't

843
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Speaker 10: stand up for themselves.

844
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Speaker 1: Good for you, Thank you, Elanda, thank you for sharing

845
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: that with us. How about you, minister Flowers. Mister Flowers

846
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: still with us since were lost there again? All right?

847
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Speaker 4: We talk about when we talk about ministry, call thank you, Landa,

848
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: thank you so much, because ministry is what motivates us.

849
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: When we think about the Word of God and some

850
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: of the assignments that he put in our path and

851
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: our destiny. We're going to act on that. We're going

852
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: to act on that level of love. So thank you

853
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: for your ministry. And ministry is what pushes me every day.

854
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: Call because I know the journey since twenty thirteen and

855
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: it's been September since we started this, and it's it's

856
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 4: all about ministry. That's all I can say. Like God, God,

857
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: has to give us the ability to know that this

858
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: is like kingdom building work. We should never forget the

859
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: less fortunate. We should never forget and not have a way.

860
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: We got to create ways to meet their needs withre

861
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: he at. So thank you Yourlanda, because those are special

862
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 4: occasions and you extend it your love and your resources

863
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: of your friends to be able to help them. And

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Speaker 4: that's what is all about, sacrificing our self, our love

865
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Speaker 4: and our times. So I thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, mister Flats, how can people

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Speaker 1: help you? Someone listeners now, if they're not in Baltimore,

868
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Speaker 1: how can they reach you? And if they are in Baltimore,

869
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: how can they get closer to you? If they want

870
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: to have that extra plate? Come Thursday after.

871
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 4: You know, Carl, I always put my number out four

872
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: one zero three six five five five sixty seven. You

873
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: can text me if I don't respond. We have a website.

874
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 4: You could go to Wwwhelp Brought Timorre's homeless dot org.

875
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 4: But I'm definitely engageable. You know, you could pick up

876
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 4: the phone. We can have a conversation. I love to

877
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 4: hear solutions. I love to hear us coming together with

878
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: ideas and no donations are too small. Like we even

879
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: have a day to day cash app that's dollar Sign

880
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: Real Care Network, which is named after my organization, because

881
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: we really care and we put it all out there

882
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: for people to get involved and help me, help you

883
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: help us call and we thank you so much and

884
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: your listeners. I'm so encouraged by the last caller because

885
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: it really takes us know what it means to live

886
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: this life of being anointed and appointed for such a

887
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: time as this. So it's all about ministry and all

888
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: ministries need to come together for humanity.

889
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you a minister Flowers, and thank you

890
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: for the work that you do and been doing it

891
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: for so long, and thank you for looking at for

892
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: a homeless population.

893
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: Thank you, brother Carling, your listeners, you guys have a

894
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 4: great and a wonderful holiday.

895
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: And remember but just fix those plates.

896
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Guys, fix the plate so before we go, you know,

897
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: because the Holliday's come up to fix that extra plate.

898
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: Can you have have you got people to help you

899
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: go pick up?

900
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do have volunteers if you if you have things,

901
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 7: if you're in a certain area and you want to

902
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 7: fix plates or give out something again, you could give

903
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 7: me a call for one zero three six, five, five,

904
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 7: five sixty seven.

905
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: We do have about three or four volunteers that's going

906
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: to be driving around with us. We have some folks

907
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: that's going to be fixing some plates as well. So

908
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 4: there's no problem to come pick up your plates if

909
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 4: you want to be able to serve the community, because

910
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: we definitely all we got in this situation and God

911
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: is all we need.

912
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: There you go, and no one should go hungry, at

913
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: least not now in this country.

914
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 4: Ready, nobody going hungry this week. I got to finish Balltimore.

915
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's make it happen. Thankive minutester

916
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: Christina Flowers, Thank.

917
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: You, Carl.

918
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: You have a great day and a great holiday as well, you.

919
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: As well a family. Let's move on now to doctor

920
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Andrea Sullivan, Doctor Sullivan, Grand Rising, thank you for being

921
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: so patient with us and welcome to the program.

922
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 11: Thank you so much. I'm so grateful to be here.

923
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 11: And grand Rising to you as well. I was intrigued

924
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 11: by the last by the last comment, especially when she

925
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 11: said that we have to sacrifice ourselves. I'm my most

926
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 11: recent book, The Sacrifices of Superwomen, Natural remedies to restore

927
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 11: balance is what we're here to talk about today. And

928
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 11: I have a little bit of a disagreement about that

929
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 11: word sacrifice. What that means is that's what we've been

930
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 11: doing as African American women for centuries, sacrificing ourselves and

931
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 11: therefore giving from a lack and not an abundance. In

932
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 11: my humble opinion, i've first ministry is to ourselves and

933
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 11: then we can give to others. And so what we've

934
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 11: done as African American women historically is give to others

935
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 11: and not ourselves. Hence we have the health statistic disparities

936
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 11: that we have and the constant sensation of lack and

937
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 11: not good enough in our communities. I didn't intend to

938
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 11: start this conversation with that, but I had to speak

939
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 11: on that word sacrifice, Carls.

940
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: So no problem rolls out on this program. Sometimes, you know, right,

941
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: the energy just takes us in a different direction. But

942
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: if we do all that, though, doctor Sullivan, give us

943
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of your background, because this is sort

944
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: of richer we have here for the first time. Guess

945
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: just around deal.

946
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 11: So, as I said about my book, the sacrifices were superwomen,

947
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 11: natural remedies to restore balance. It's a combination of two degrees,

948
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 11: several degrees that I have. I have a PhD in

949
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 11: criminology and sociology from the Universe Pennsylvania. I'm from Philadelphia originally,

950
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 11: and I have a naturopathic medical degree from Bastia University

951
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 11: in Seattle. The book of a combination of those degrees.

952
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 11: I'm a sociologist. That hurt part, and then I chose

953
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 11: to do something differently called naturopathic medicine. And that's because

954
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 11: I taught at Howard. That's what brought me to DC

955
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 11: where I am now. I taught at Howard for several

956
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 11: years after I got my degree in sociology and criminology,

957
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 11: and then I went to naturopathic school because teaching sociology

958
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 11: and criminology in the seventies, when the system was already

959
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 11: designed to take especially our African American men from high

960
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 11: school to prison was not life giving, and I needed

961
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 11: something that was life giving. I was a special assistant

962
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 11: in the Carter administration under Patricia Roberts Harris, who was

963
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 11: the first African American woman to be a presidential cabinet

964
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 11: memory or at HUD and that didn't satisfy me. Either

965
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 11: because I realized that what I was supposed to tell

966
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 11: a group of protesters outside of HUD that morning that

967
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 11: was awakening for me was something different than I was

968
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 11: to tell the press, and that just didn't sit right

969
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 11: with me. So I realized that my days at HUD

970
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 11: were certainly numbered and I needed to do something else.

971
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 11: And then I was tired all the time. I was

972
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 11: only twenty nine years old. I had a faith full

973
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 11: of acne, I was overweight, and I thought to myself,

974
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 11: when I'm seventy, this is not going to be cute

975
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 11: at all. So now I'm more than seventy, and I'm cute,

976
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 11: and I say that, you know, kind of playfully. But

977
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 11: I looked better than I did when I was twenty nine,

978
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 11: and I know it's because of what I chose to do,

979
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 11: which is, as the term is today, pivot into a

980
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 11: whole new career that is life giving and is life

981
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 11: saving called natural medicine. So that's a brief history of

982
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 11: who I am and what I do and what I've

983
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 11: devoted the last forty forty two years of my life

984
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 11: to is naturopathic medicine. And I believe that.

985
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to jump in and ask you if

986
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: you could define that for us, what is natural?

987
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 11: Nature means nature and past those means suffering. So it's

988
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 11: it's to heal the suffering with something from nature. And

989
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 11: that can be of course food, it can be herbs,

990
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 11: it can be air, it can be water, it can

991
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 11: be light, it can be anything that's from nature, nature paths.

992
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 11: We treat people, not conditions. That's the biggest difference I think.

993
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 11: Can we do it with natural substances. We look at

994
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 11: the whole person, So we're looking at the physical, emotional, mental,

995
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 11: and spiritual state of the person and not just the

996
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 11: physical state. We want to understand the root cause of

997
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 11: the condition. For example, abuse is very popular in our society. Unfortunately,

998
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 11: many women that come to me have been abused physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.

999
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 11: I look at the effect of that abuse on the

1000
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 11: physical body because it does have an effect. Ultimately, could

1001
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 11: be twenty years ago that this abuse happened, but the

1002
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 11: manifestation of hypertension or diabetes is just coming about. So

1003
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 11: we're looking at the whole person and prescribing natural substances

1004
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 11: and lifestyle changes so that we can understand how the

1005
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 11: body can heal. The body can heal itself given the

1006
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 11: proper support, and that's the key. Most of us don't

1007
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 11: give the body the proper support, which is what my

1008
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 11: book delves into in terms of how to do that.

1009
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 11: I always tell my patients that doctor means teacher, it

1010
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 11: doesn't mean God. So we work together as a team.

1011
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 11: You can't just drop your body off and pick it

1012
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 11: up at five o'clock like you would a car. You

1013
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 11: have to get involved in your health. You have to

1014
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 11: get involved in your well being. We don't get I

1015
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 11: always like to say too, we don't get a headache

1016
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 11: from a lack of aspirin. We get a headache for

1017
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 11: many different reasons. To be stressed, worry, constipation, not enough water,

1018
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 11: not enough sleep, an argument with someone. All of these

1019
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 11: things can create this disease. And it's not necessarily that

1020
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 11: you have to take a tile and all. So nature

1021
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 11: paths focus on the whole person and we focus on

1022
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 11: natural substances to heal that person and what the root causes.

1023
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 11: We listen, and that's a big difference between nature apathy

1024
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 11: and allopathy. Allopathy is conventional medicine as you know it.

1025
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 11: But they don't listen because they don't have the time

1026
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 11: to listen, and that's a huge problem. And African American

1027
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 11: women feel that all the time going into an appointmentppointment

1028
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 11: is five minutes after you waited an hour to see

1029
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 11: the doctor. Not all doctors don't misunderstand me, but some

1030
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 11: of them have the very poor time management and also

1031
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 11: don't take the time because they have to get to

1032
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 11: the next person. So that's that's so perfic medicine.

1033
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: All right, Hold that though right there, we got step

1034
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: aside for a few months. We come back. Let's talk

1035
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: about some of the health problems that that you know,

1036
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: some seem to be acutely affecting the sisters or all

1037
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: the black community in general. I'm talking about stuff like hypertension, diabetes,

1038
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: and even now dementia. We've seen that a lot of

1039
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: people coming down with dementia Parkinson's. Before we didn't hear

1040
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: about those diseases. Now it seems more and more prevalent

1041
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: in the black community. So maybe you've got some answers

1042
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: for us. Family, you want to join this conversation. Our

1043
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: guest is doctor Andrea Sullivan. You can speak to her

1044
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

1045
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls next and Grand

1046
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this Tuesday morning.

1047
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: I guess is to Andrea Sullivan. She's written a book

1048
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: called The Sacrifices of Superwomen, Natural Remedies to Restore Balance.

1049
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: You've got a health challenge or a health question, see

1050
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: the lady you need to speak to, and you can

1051
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: reach her at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

1052
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: seventy six. And don't be bashfor you don't have to

1053
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: use your real name, you know, to take advantage of

1054
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: her expertise. I always tell you when it comes to health,

1055
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: health is wealth. This is all you've got. You've got

1056
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: to be proactive when it comes to health. Doctor Sullivan,

1057
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: before we left out, asked you to talk about some

1058
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: of the issues that seem more acute to our community,

1059
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: like diabetes, hypertension, obesity, and now with the different kinds

1060
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: of cancer and also dementia Parkinson. So I'll let you

1061
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: pick up anywhere you want to start on that line

1062
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: and just tell us why you think there's been an

1063
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: increase and what can we do about it. Have we

1064
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: lost a doctor Sullivan? Kevin, all right, we're trying to

1065
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 1: get the doctor Sulvan. But while he's doing that, elementary minds,

1066
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: you come up at eight o'clock, we're gonna have a

1067
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: discussion about uh, the person formerly known as h Rap Brown.

1068
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: That would be Imam Jamie Abdullah l a men. You know,

1069
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: he passed away on Sundays and originally Chairman Frere was

1070
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna joints, but chairm and Fred's plane got directed. So

1071
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of crazy it's going on

1072
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: the airlines these days. So we're just going to open

1073
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: the phone lines and hopefully we get some people call

1074
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: in as well. I want to hear about you what

1075
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: you remember about h Rap Brown and so many people

1076
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: just remember this the saying that he had, and I

1077
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: know some people remember him and if you don't look

1078
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: at look it up. So that's for the younger crowd,

1079
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, remember with him and Stokely at a Snake

1080
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Speaker 1: before Stoker became U kwame Terray. All right, doctor Sullivan.

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Speaker 11: Yes, is it something I said that made you hang up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Probly somebody cut the line. But uh, some of

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Speaker 1: some of the issues that are facing you know, not

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Speaker 1: just the sisters, but but the black community itself. And

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Speaker 1: before you even go down, you know, just pick out anyone.

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Speaker 1: But before you do that, though, why do you think

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Speaker 1: if they affect us more acutely than other races?

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Speaker 11: Why do I think what affects us some.

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Speaker 1: Of these issues pressure, dementia?

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's very clear to me, sexism and racism.

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Speaker 11: I mean, and if you, of course we're including the brothers,

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Speaker 11: then we just have to say racism and the racism

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Speaker 11: certainly is not just something that's obvious. It's insidious and

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Speaker 11: it has its tentacles everywhere. The situations that we're in

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Speaker 11: now especially certainly adds to that with the lack of

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Speaker 11: DEI and anything that even looks like African American, because

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Speaker 11: they don't want us.

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Speaker 8: To know who we are.

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Speaker 11: You don't know who you are, you don't know where

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Speaker 11: you're going. So in this day and age, especially with

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Speaker 11: all African Americans, the system is a sick care system.

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Speaker 11: First of all, it's not a healthcare system. So well,

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Speaker 11: that's another issue, and that we have our own set

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Speaker 11: of issues in terms of lack of self love. And

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Speaker 11: I say that with all due respect. I've certainly experienced

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Speaker 11: it myself. It's not something I'm unfamiliar with. But we

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Speaker 11: don't take the time to care for ourselves as much

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Speaker 11: as we could, and African American women especially are caring

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Speaker 11: for everybody else but ourselves. We're caring for children we

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Speaker 11: didn't know, our husbands had. We're caring for our nieces,

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Speaker 11: our nephews, our sisters, our mothers, our fathers. We're caring

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Speaker 11: for everybody. And again we're giving from a lack as

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Speaker 11: opposed to giving from the fullness of who we could be.

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Speaker 11: And yes, giving is important, giving to others who are

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Speaker 11: less fortunate. When I grew up, my mother always ended

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Speaker 11: our grace with and may we always be mindful of

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Speaker 11: the needs of others, and I hold that to be

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Speaker 11: very sacred in my heart. My great grandmother started the

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Speaker 11: first unwar Mother's Home in Philadelphia, so my family has

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Speaker 11: a history of giving back and being concerned about the

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Speaker 11: needs of others. However, we have to be concerned with

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Speaker 11: our own needs as well so that we can continue

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Speaker 11: to participate. I've been saying this long before. The airlines

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Speaker 11: say that take care of yourself before you can take

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Speaker 11: care of others. Put the mask on yourself before you

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Speaker 11: put the mask on others. When you're in an airplane,

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Speaker 11: it has to happen otherwise resent that happens, and we

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Speaker 11: are not feeling well about ourselves. So, to directly answer

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Speaker 11: your question, again, sexism and racism are the issues that

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Speaker 11: create the problems because the lack of self worth leads

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Speaker 11: to low self esteem. Low self esteem leads to sabotaging

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Speaker 11: oneself in many, many different ways, whether it's sitting on

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Speaker 11: the couch snacking on ice cream and bomb bonds, or

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Speaker 11: whether it's gossiping about another person, or not feeling good

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Speaker 11: about ourselves, talking about ourselves and giving out ourselves words

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Speaker 11: that are not encouraging. So racism sexism are certainly, in

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Speaker 11: my opinion, the cause of our situation, in addition to

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Speaker 11: the health care disparities and the kind of inhumane treatment

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Speaker 11: that African Americans have been getting for centuries. As it

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Speaker 11: relates to quote healthcare, African American women were always used

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 11: as models, as experiments, whether it was gynecological or whether

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Speaker 11: it was something that related to the heart. We've always

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Speaker 11: been experimental people for their different heroic efforts, and now,

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Speaker 11: of course with the studies that they had, they hardly

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Speaker 11: ever do studies on black women because the system generally

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Speaker 11: is a sick care system and doesn't choose to have

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Speaker 11: Black women being healthy. Our whole health system doesn't want

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Speaker 11: us to be healthy. We have big pharm we have

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Speaker 11: big farming that farms corn as opposed to fruits and vegetables.

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 11: Farmers get subsidies for corn, not fruits and vegetables and

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Speaker 11: certain other organic fruits and vegetables. So it's a whole

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Speaker 11: system that has itself against us, and that means we

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Speaker 11: have to create a new paradigm. We have to be

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Speaker 11: proactive for ourselves, and that's what this book is about

1155
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 11: the sacrifices of Superwomen, Natural Remedies to restore balance. We

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 11: have to be proactive and create our own wellness and

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Speaker 11: begin with baby steps. Small steps don't consistently make a difference.

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Speaker 11: I've always said that, so I hope that answers your question.

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Speaker 1: It Shirley does at twenty eight at the top the Family.

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Speaker 1: Just checking in. Our guest's doctor Andrea Sullivan. She's written

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Speaker 1: a book that was a title that she mentioned, The

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Speaker 1: sacrifice is of Superwomen, Natural Remedies to Restore Balance. Joining

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Speaker 1: us right now from Los Angeles, Sister Serrita. She's online

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Speaker 1: one Grand Rising Sisters three with doctor Sullivan.

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Speaker 12: Grand Rising, Carl Ground Rising to the audience and of

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Speaker 12: ground rising to your guests, I'm I'm what would like

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Speaker 12: to I'm dealing with uh some some mild or health issues.

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 12: I have high blood pressure. I am dealing with obesity,

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Speaker 12: I have I'm pre diabetic. I have to tears in

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Speaker 12: both nees and and I'm sorry, I have tears in

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Speaker 12: both monisca and both needs manisca steers and authoritis in

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Speaker 12: both needs.

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Speaker 4: Dealing with.

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Speaker 12: Pyramidal palls and and so I'm dealing with with quite

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Speaker 12: a bit on medications, not a lot, but enough to

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Speaker 12: know that I need to do something. My My first

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Speaker 12: first question is what do you recommend regarding inflammation.

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Speaker 11: Because I deal with a lot of that.

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Speaker 12: I have a edema and the toward toward my ankle

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Speaker 12: and then to my ankles, and then also dealing with

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Speaker 12: menopause and the mind, because you can assume that if

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Speaker 12: you I'm sure you know that you deal with faulk

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Speaker 12: fault mind, you know you can't remember.

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Speaker 11: And things of that yourself.

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Speaker 12: Yes, So if you could just touch on all of

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Speaker 12: that that I put on your plate, and I'll take

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Speaker 12: my comments off the air, but I appreciate you.

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Speaker 11: Just to thank you, thank you so much. So next time,

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Speaker 11: get me something easy to talk about. No, that's a joke.

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Speaker 11: That's a joke anyway. Yeah, that's a lot. You're dealing

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Speaker 11: with a lot, but I hear it all the time. Unfortunately. Again,

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Speaker 11: I bet you have a backstory. Whether or not it's

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Speaker 11: a relationship that went bad, or children that didn't treat

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 11: you right, or a father or mother that didn't treat

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Speaker 11: you right. I'm sure you have a backstory. So and

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Speaker 11: having said that, that means your whole body again physically, mentally, emotionally,

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Speaker 11: and spiritually, has been affected. Specifically, if you're talking about stress,

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Speaker 11: you know chronic stress originates in the digestive system because

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Speaker 11: most of our immune cells are in the digestive system.

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Speaker 11: So I would ask what you're eating. That's number one,

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Speaker 11: and you can get direction in my book The Sacrifices

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Speaker 11: of Superwomen Natural Womens to Restore Balance. I would ask

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Speaker 11: if you're taking a probiotic. I would ask if you're

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 11: taking things like fish oil or Mega three because that's

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Speaker 11: a great anti inflamatin. Now, I don't know anything about

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 11: your healthcare and what medications you're on, so I'm kind

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Speaker 11: of overstepping here, but these are things that you can consider.

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Speaker 11: And again my book has a list of things that

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Speaker 11: you can certainly consider as well. I'm wondering if you

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 11: get enough sleep. Most of us do not get enough sleep,

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Speaker 11: and sleep is important for healing of the body. Sleep

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Speaker 11: is important for healing the digestive system. When we're under stress,

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Speaker 11: we are always the digestive system is always shut down.

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Speaker 11: When we're understressed, that part of the nervous system just

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Speaker 11: shuts down. So the system that is controlling our digestive

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Speaker 11: tract is no longer working. And that means that we're

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Speaker 11: not able to digest our food properly and eliminate our

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Speaker 11: food properly, so we have problems with elimination as in constipation.

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Speaker 11: Chronic stress also reduces blood sugar utilization, so you don't

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Speaker 11: get the blood the sugar taken out of the blood

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 11: and put into the cells as effectively as you might.

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Speaker 11: So dealing with inflammation means you have to deal with stress.

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01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 11: How does one deal with stress? Baby steps, one step

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 11: out of time. Small things done consistently make a difference.

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Speaker 11: So I ask, do you exercise? I heard you talk

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Speaker 11: about the situation with your knees, but there are chair

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Speaker 11: exercises that you can do that are on YouTube, or

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 11: you can walk even if it's ten minutes three times

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Speaker 11: a week. That's why I start people ten minutes three

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 11: times a week, or the chair exercises ten minutes three

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 11: times a week. Watching your diet, what does that mean?

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01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 11: Reduce your fried foods Your sugar. Sugar is a great

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:41,480
Speaker 11: inflammatont Sugar makes the blood increase. Think of the word inflame.

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Speaker 11: It means to set a fire. So you've got heat,

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01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 11: you've got redness, you've got discomfort. There are certain herbs

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Speaker 11: that can help with that, and like I said, not

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 11: that fish oil is an herb, but certainly fish oil

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Speaker 11: is one of them. Flax seed oil is another. Things

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01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 11: like quercitan, things like ashwaganda, ginger, bosuelia, all of those

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01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 11: are good anti inflammatants. Your blood sugar can be assisted

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01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 11: by something called berberine. Again, I don't want you to

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Speaker 11: go run out and take these things because I don't

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01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 11: know what other medications you're on, but I do want

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01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 11: you to look it up and see if that's something

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 11: that would assist you. Turmeric is another great anti inflammatant,

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Speaker 11: but also meditation, and I say that with great earnest

1247
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 11: because meditation allows one to not only talk to God,

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Speaker 11: but listen to God.

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Speaker 4: We all have God.

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Speaker 11: Inside of us. That's where God resides. God doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 11: reside in heaven with a white beard, and there is

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 11: a white man. No God resides in us. We each

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 11: have a spark of that thing called all that is,

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Speaker 11: so when you go inside, you can listen to God.

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 11: Prayer is talking to God. It's very different. So even

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 11: if you meditate ten times a day for a minute,

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01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 11: that's better than not meditating at all. Listen to your

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01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 11: inner voice. Whatever gossip or negativity you're involved in, whether

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01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 11: it's a family. Sometimes we have to separate from our

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 11: families because they're too toxic. The other thing I want

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Speaker 11: to encourage you to do is drink water. How much

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 11: water do you drink? Probably not enough, that's the answer

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 11: for most people. Again, how much sleep.

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Speaker 1: Do you get?

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 11: Probably not enough, that's the answer for most people. So

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 11: these are things. Again, small things done consistently make a difference.

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01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 11: And these are all things that are highlighted in my

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01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 11: book The Sacrifices of Superwomen. Natural remedies to restore balance.

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Speaker 11: So I hope that answers some of your questions.

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Speaker 8: Right, and that's what answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah with doctor Andrew Sullivan's the author of the book

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Speaker 1: and the Sacrifices of Superwomen, Natural Remedies to Restore Balance.

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Speaker 1: I got to tweets for your from two sisters. Let's

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Speaker 1: take the first one. Caroline says, it only gets five

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Speaker 1: hours sleep a night, wakes up every morning at two am?

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Speaker 1: Is this enough?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 11: That's the short answer no. So the question is why

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01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 11: are you only getting five hours sleep? Well, the first

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01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 11: of all, the question is are you rested when you

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 11: wake up? And is that five hours? What are the

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 11: hours of that five hours? You say you wake up

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 11: at two am every morning? Is there something that wakes

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 11: you up? Is there snoring going on? Is there noise

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01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 11: going on? Is it your mind just won't shut down?

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 11: What is it that is creating the two am wake up?

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Speaker 11: Sometimes people have so much on their minds that they

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 11: can't get to sleep or it wakes them up. I

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Speaker 11: encourage you to write down and do a brain dump

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Speaker 11: before bid. Just write down all the things that you're thinking.

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Speaker 11: You don't have to have a period, and a question

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Speaker 11: mark in a commet does not have to be grammatically correct.

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Speaker 11: It just has to be you dumping your thoughts and

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Speaker 11: giving your thoughts onto the paper, tearing it up and

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Speaker 11: burning it. Now, if you have a list of things

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Speaker 11: you have to do and you don't want to destroy

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Speaker 11: the list, that's fine, but still write down the list

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Speaker 11: and go to bed. The other thing is about sleep again,

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Speaker 11: this is all in my book. Your room temperature needs

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Speaker 11: to be somewhere around sixty two to sixty four. People

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Speaker 11: tell me, oh, I go to bed with my temperature

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Speaker 11: on seventy five. That is too warm. The body does

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Speaker 11: not rest well in that kind of heat. And you

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Speaker 11: need to have a sleep pattern, so you need to

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Speaker 11: have sleep habits. Take a shower, go to bed. Don't

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Speaker 11: take a shower and then clean. Take a shower and

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Speaker 11: then read. Take a shower and then watch TV. No,

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 11: take a shower, go to bed. Don't do anything else

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Speaker 11: between the bed and the shower. Be mindful of your

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Speaker 11: sleep patterns. People get on the phone, they take a shower,

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Speaker 11: they get in the bed and get on the phone. No,

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Speaker 11: move the phone to another room. All those electromagnetic ways

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Speaker 11: from the phone will be in your body. So move

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Speaker 11: the phone to the bathroom. Move the phone to a

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Speaker 11: whole other room. Now, if you have an aging parent

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Speaker 11: as I did once I did have the phone closer

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Speaker 11: to me, but that's no longer the case unfortunately, So

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Speaker 11: the phone now is no longer in the bedroom. No

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Speaker 11: TV in the bedroom again, all those electromagnetic ways are

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Speaker 11: going towards you. And then you've got the stuff that's

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Speaker 11: on the TV. The bang, bang, shoot them up. Whoever's

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Speaker 11: getting locked in the trunk of the car. No, those

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Speaker 11: are not things that your immune system, that your nervous

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Speaker 11: system can survive, and they do not do well for

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Speaker 11: your overall sleep health.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold up, thought right there, doctor, Check the news,

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Speaker 1: traffic and where they're our different cities twenty three minutes

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Speaker 1: away from the top they A family just joined us.

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Speaker 1: I guess she's doctor Andrea Sullivan. She's written a book

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Speaker 1: called The Sacrifices of Superwomen. Natural Remedies to Restore Balance.

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Speaker 1: You want to join this conversation, reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls after the news.

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Speaker 1: That's next and Grand Rising Family, thanks to staying with

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Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning. I guess this doctor Andrea Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: She's written a book called The sacrifices of superwomen, natural

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Speaker 1: remedies to restore balance. Got some tweet questions for her

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Speaker 1: before we go back to her. Thet'll it just remind

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Speaker 1: you coming up after the first we finished with doctor Salvin,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a discussion about h Rob Brown or

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Speaker 1: some of you know him as a mom Jamil Abdullah

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Speaker 1: al Men, we're gonna talk about him. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. We're gonna op the phone line and

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Speaker 1: you can reach us at eight hundred four to five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six. And later this week you're

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Speaker 1: going to hear from multi talented researcher brother Kitty Awadu,

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01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: also futuristic researcher brother Sadika Baccari, also a historian. Michael

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Speaker 1: m o Tip will be here. So if you are

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, make sure you keep that radio locked in

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: tight on ten ten WLB or if you're in the

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Speaker 1: dmv 'or on fourteen fifty WL. All right, Doctor Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: This tweet from Danis has seven to year old mother

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: has all time is related to dementia. Any help? That's

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Speaker 1: all the words she shared.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well that's a tough one, and I mean I

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Speaker 11: don't know to what degree she has it or what

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Speaker 11: her behavior is like. Again, we treat people not just conditions,

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Speaker 11: but certainly her, We want to make sure her immune

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Speaker 11: system is functioning properly, eating things like fish to get

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Speaker 11: Omega three oils and not eating saturated fats and fried foods.

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Speaker 11: You know, diet is just so very very very important,

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Speaker 11: and I recognize that many times people can't afford to

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Speaker 11: eat well. But if there's just one thing you can

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Speaker 11: do per week, or one thing you can do per

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Speaker 11: month that is good quality food, maybe you can get,

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Speaker 11: you know, one bushel of kale that's organic for example,

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Speaker 11: per week. Do something to you try to move your

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Speaker 11: diet forward in a way that says no chemicals, no

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Speaker 11: food colorings, dies, those kinds of things, because they create

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Speaker 11: havoc in our system. Our bodies are not designed to

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Speaker 11: have those substances in our system. So that's all part

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Speaker 11: of it. That, it's all a part of it. Certainly,

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Speaker 11: exercise and doing mind to mind puzzles in the books,

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Speaker 11: those things are helpful. Again, I don't know the degree

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Speaker 11: to which the mother has this condition.

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Speaker 1: All right, hopefully he's still there. I hopefully we have

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Speaker 1: lost solving you're still here. Have we lost doctor Sullivan again?

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Speaker 1: It's like a line drop. See if we can get

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Speaker 1: it back because another tweet question for her. This tweeter says,

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Speaker 1: Grant Rising, you and your guest please ask about plants

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Speaker 1: for sieties. I hope I'm pronounced that correctly, foot problems

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Speaker 1: and sinus problems. What are the best remedies for these problems?

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01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: So we will get doctor Sullivan backer I get it

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Speaker 1: to respond to those questions. The book, by the way, again,

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Speaker 1: it's titled The Sacrifices of Superwomen Natural Remedies to Restore Balance.

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Speaker 1: In the books she talks about the soul Journi syndrome,

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Speaker 1: the stress of sexism and racism. We wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about that as well, and also food because you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when we speak to natopathic doctors,

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Speaker 1: they always say it's what we eat. It's our diet

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Speaker 1: that causes the problems. Doctor Sullivan, you're back with us,

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Speaker 1: not hearing doctor Sulvin. So anyway, Kevin, see if you

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Speaker 1: can get it back on so we can answer this.

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Speaker 1: Oh ees, all right, there you are, Doctor Selvin tweeted

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Speaker 1: question for you, tweet us is Grand Rising to you

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Speaker 1: and your guest ask the guest about plan tele for sidis,

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Speaker 1: foot problems and sinus problems. What are the best remedies

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Speaker 1: for these these problems? Thanks?

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Speaker 11: Well, those are both inflammatory conditions, of course, but everything

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Speaker 11: is inflammation. Let's start there. The disease is inflammation, and

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Speaker 11: the inflammation, as I purport in my book, is from

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Speaker 11: the sexism and racism and all of the stress that

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Speaker 11: we have, especially now in this country. But sinus problems

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Speaker 11: are from inflammation and from foods that you eat. Things

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Speaker 11: like cheese can create sinus problems. Dairy dairy is for

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Speaker 11: baby cows. Dairy is not for us. Let me make

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Speaker 11: that clear. I believe dairy is for baby cows. Cow's

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Speaker 11: milk is for baby cows, not for us, and sinus

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Speaker 11: infections can come from that unless there's some physical concern

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Speaker 11: with your sinuses, meaning that you have a deviated septum

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Speaker 11: or something like that. Generally speaking, it's about diet and

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Speaker 11: plant on Phasiatis again is inflammation. I would seek an acupuncture.

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Speaker 11: Acupuncture is part of naturopathic medicine. Naturopathic medicine again includes

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Speaker 11: everything from nature, herbs, acupuncture, homeopathy, diet, nutrition, lifestyle changes.

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Speaker 11: We have to include We include all of that in

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Speaker 11: naturopathic medicine. But plantar fasciitis also responds well to anti

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Speaker 11: inflammatants that I told the woman with the knee problems,

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Speaker 11: ginger tumeric, fish oil, Omega three, especially Oswa Ganda. Make

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Speaker 11: sure your digestive system is operating effectively, because that's where

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Speaker 11: chronic inflammation starts in your digestive track. That's where our

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Speaker 11: immune cell. A lot of our immune cells are in

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Speaker 11: the digest in the gastrointestinal track, meaning from our mouth

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Speaker 11: to our anus, and that's where the problems arise in

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Speaker 11: that track, especially high blood pressure, high blood sugar, et cetera.

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Speaker 11: Because the system shuts down under stress. We have to

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Speaker 11: be mindful of the stress.

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Speaker 8: You see.

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Speaker 11: It's not just one thing that helps to cure something.

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Speaker 11: That's what the sick care system has us to believe. Oh,

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Speaker 11: you have a headache, you take a tylenol, like I

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Speaker 11: said at the beginning of the show.

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Speaker 12: No, you don't have a.

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Speaker 11: Headache because of the lack of aspen in your system

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Speaker 11: or a lack of tylenol. You have a headache for many,

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Speaker 11: many reasons. You don't have plantar fasciitis because of the

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Speaker 11: lack of an inflammatory substance in or anti inflammatory substance.

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Speaker 11: You have a fasciitis or sinuciitis because of a lifestyle

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Speaker 11: that you're living because of your diet. So focus on

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Speaker 11: those things and heal yourself with your awareness of what

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Speaker 11: it is that you can do to better serve your

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Speaker 11: body as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, thank you for that. Eight hundred and four or five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy sixth. Doctor Andrea Sullivan's I Guess

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Speaker 1: Family and her book is called The Sacrifices of Superwomen

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Speaker 1: Natural Remedies to Restore Balance and is checking in online too.

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Speaker 1: Calling from Baltimore, Grand Rising, and you're on with doctor Sullivan.

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Speaker 9: Hi, I had about a year ago and they took

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Speaker 9: me off the fish oil and they've said it interfere

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Speaker 9: with my blood dinner.

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Speaker 11: Yes they can. That's why I said to the person.

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Speaker 11: I said to the person earlier, I don't know what

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Speaker 11: medications you're on, so they have to research it. That

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Speaker 11: is actually accurate. If you're on blood centners, you don't

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Speaker 11: want to take things like fish oil or vitamin E.

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Speaker 11: Those both can decrease your can sind your blood. However,

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Speaker 11: I would encourage you to ask your doctor, who may

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Speaker 11: or may not be willing to do it, to see

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Speaker 11: if your blood cinner can be reduced. Again, I don't

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Speaker 11: know your particular situation, so I'm always hesitant to give

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Speaker 11: out this kind of advice, but ask, is there any

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Speaker 11: way that it can be reduced? And or you can

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Speaker 11: certainly eat fish like salmon, halib it, sardines, mackerel, cop

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Speaker 11: that increase your omega three oils so that you don't

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Speaker 11: necessarily have to take a pill. But you're taking some

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Speaker 11: foods that increase your ability to have more omega three.

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Speaker 11: So I would ask if there's any way to decrease it,

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Speaker 11: and I would also take in more of the fish

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Speaker 11: I just mentioned, and all those fish are listed in

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Speaker 11: my book The Sacrifices of Superwomen.

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Speaker 9: Okay, then let me ask you one more quick question. Okay,

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Speaker 9: now I just okay. Now, I went to the doctor

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Speaker 9: about my hip. I thought I would have to have

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Speaker 9: hip replacement, but he told me.

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Speaker 4: I had of writers in my back that.

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Speaker 9: Causing my hip pain. So they wanted to give me

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Speaker 9: a tech in my spine.

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Speaker 11: And sorry, they wanted to give you what.

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Speaker 9: They wanted to give me a serbod shot in my back,

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Speaker 9: and my daughter in law told me not to take it.

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Speaker 11: No, that's right, she's right, because the shots ultimately reduce

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Speaker 11: your bone density. That's number one, and they're simply temporary.

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Speaker 11: What I would do, I would certainly look at my diet.

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Speaker 11: I would cut out all dairy. I would eat again

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Speaker 11: more of the fish I talked about. I don't know

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Speaker 11: what your vegetable intake is or your fried food intake.

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Speaker 11: I would eliminate the fried foods. And you know, as

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Speaker 11: we're moving into this season of the eating marathon from

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Speaker 11: Thanksgiving to Christmas, I would just encourage all of you

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Speaker 11: who hear my voice to just reduce some of the

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Speaker 11: things that you would eat. Push back from the table.

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Speaker 11: You are worth it. You are your greatest asset. You

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Speaker 11: are the one who are taking in these substances. Your

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Speaker 11: body can't handle it. Your body is the kingdom where

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Speaker 11: God resides. So treat it with respect, treat it with dignity,

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Speaker 11: treat it with some sense of reverence, because it's a

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Speaker 11: marvelous machine if it's treated properly, if it has the

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Speaker 11: proper support. So if you're going to have three pieces

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Speaker 11: of pumpkin pie, have one and forget the whipped cream,

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01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 11: so just use your common sense. Those things cannot be

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01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 11: good for you. And sugar, as I said to the

1501
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 11: woman who has knee problems, sugar is the greatest inflammating

1502
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 11: of all sugar and dairy products can inflame the joints.

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01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,440
Speaker 11: So those are things I would encourage you to decrease,

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01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 11: if not eliminate, from your diet to deal with this

1505
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 11: osteoporosis and to your hip pain. They are also exercises

1506
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 11: that you can do to decrease the pain, so I

1507
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 11: would look up those exercises on YouTube again, their chair

1508
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 11: exercises to strengthen the hip muscles so that the pain

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 11: can be decreased. Okay, thank you, appreciate it, and God

1510
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 11: bless you, and God bless you too. Happy Thanksgiving?

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: All right, thank you all of those. I think we

1512
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 1: got to check out. Now check out the trafficking within

1513
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: out different cities. It's forming its away from the top

1514
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: of our family. You want to join this discussion with

1515
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: our guest doctor Andrea Sullivan. She's written a book titled

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01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: The Sacrifices of Superwomen. Natural Remedies to Restore Balance. What

1517
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Reach us at eight hundred four or

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01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six, and well ticket calls

1519
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: after the trafficking weather together that's next, and Grand Rising

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01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: Family thanks to staying with us on this Tuesday morning.

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01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: Our guest is doctor Andrea Sullivan. She's written a book

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01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: called The Sacrifices of Superwomen, Natural Remedies to Restore Balance.

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01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: So Mom and toldy, we're going to talk about h

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01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: Rap Brown is known as h Rap Brown. Some people

1525
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: say you should never call any by his government name.

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01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: Is real respect in Iman Jamil Abdullah l men, because

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01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to talk about. Family, So you

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01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: can call us an eight hundred four five zero seventy

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01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: eight seventy six before we do that, though, I got

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,759
Speaker 1: a question for doctor Sullivan, doctor Salvion in your book,

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01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: which is what I really like. You have a list

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01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: of foods to include in foods to avoid because a

1533
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of people come and tell you should need this,

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01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: you'dn't need that, but they don't tell you what you know,

1535
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 1: give you a substitute. But this is what you've done.

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01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Why'd you put this in the book.

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01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 11: Well, because of just what you said. You know, people

1538
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 11: are saying this is what you need, deep, this is

1539
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 11: what you don't need deep this is what you needed,

1540
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 11: This is what you need to do, and most people

1541
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 11: don't know what to eat. I have been for forty

1542
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 11: years or more than that, actually had to get a

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01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 11: simple water. Excuse me doing diets based on blood type,

1544
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 11: which I learned from my mentor, and based on my

1545
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 11: blood type because I was vegetarian during that time. When

1546
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 11: I said I was tired all the time, I had

1547
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 11: a face full of acting. I was overweight. I was

1548
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 11: only twenty nine years old and I'd been vegetarian for

1549
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 11: seven years, so I'm thinking, well, why am I overweight?

1550
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 11: Act me all this? My blood type is B, and

1551
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 11: indeed I should eat fish and occasionally LAMB, but for

1552
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 11: the most part I should be vegetarian. But I wasn't

1553
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 11: eating any animal protein whatsoever. So I learned through that

1554
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 11: process and through my own work with myself off what

1555
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 11: I should be eating, and that's what I've incorporated with

1556
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 11: my patients. So I do diets based on blood type.

1557
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 11: And I have a full list of things that are

1558
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 11: in my book and some information about blood type diets.

1559
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 11: So that's why I put it in there. Because people say, well,

1560
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 11: I should be vegetarian or I should do this, or

1561
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 11: I shouldn't do that, and we're confused. We're confused about

1562
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 11: what to eat, and we have to understand again, diet

1563
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 11: is critical when you're talking about disease, Diet is critical.

1564
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 11: I just want to go back because I don't think

1565
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 11: I gave enough time to the sister who asked about

1566
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 11: the mother with Alzheimer's. I just want to mention the

1567
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 11: herb ginko by Loba that can produce some effect of

1568
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 11: Alzheimer's and another lion's main mushroom, and certainly most importantly

1569
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 11: staying hydrated. Hydration. The brain is seventy percent water. We

1570
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 11: have to keep ourselves hydrated, and I generally recommend fifty

1571
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 11: percent of your body weight, So I weigh one fifty.

1572
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 11: For example, I'm five ten. I drink seventy five sixty

1573
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 11: to seventy five ounces of water a day. I start

1574
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 11: every morning with a leader of water. So I encourage

1575
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 11: your listeners to stay hydrated. Again, the ginko and the

1576
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 11: Lion's main and the other thing I want to say

1577
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 11: is in your advertising. You know you say information is power.

1578
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 11: Yes it is, but it's not if you don't use it.

1579
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 11: So I'm encouraging your listeners to buy this book and

1580
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 11: use the book. Don't just let it sit. Use it

1581
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 11: holiday time, buy it for yourself as a gift, Buy

1582
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 11: it for all the superwomen in your lives. Buy it

1583
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 11: for the men in your lives. Because everybody gets sick sometimes,

1584
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 11: everybody has chronic stress. We need to know how to

1585
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 11: handle it. So that's what I want to say. Go

1586
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 11: ahead with your next question, Carl.

1587
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: All right, My question is we're just about out of

1588
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: time here, five after the time. How can folks get

1589
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: copies of your book? Though?

1590
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 11: Oh so, I'm sure bookshop dot org, bookshop dot org

1591
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 11: is it's a conglomerate of small bookshops around the country.

1592
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 11: That's one way to get it. Of course, Amazon has

1593
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 11: it if you have an Amazon account and bookshoft dot org.

1594
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 11: I have a button on my website, doctor Andrea Sullivan

1595
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 11: dot com that's d R A N d R E

1596
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 11: A s U L l I v A n dot com.

1597
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 11: That button will take you to Amazon, and those are

1598
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 11: the ways you can get it.

1599
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, thank you, thank you. We've got

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01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: to do a follow up on it with this, doctor Sullivan.

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01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I thank you for rinning agree. Yeah, thank you for

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01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: looking at for our sisters.

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01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 11: Yes, indeed, and I'd appreciate time more time with you, Carl,

1604
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 11: and thank you for all that you do.

1605
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: Before you go, though, before you go. Got a question,

1606
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: the tweets are coming in late. Let's do this before

1607
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: we talk to doctor Campbell. Ha's call from Ghana, Doctor Sullivan,

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01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: where there is concerned, Can you clarify the use of

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01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Greek yogurt as a digestive balancer of good bacteria in

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01:33:58,960 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: the digestive track.

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01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 11: No, don't use it. When I say no like that,

1612
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 11: I really mean no like that. It's a dairy product.

1613
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 11: It's milk. You can get a good probiotic. You go

1614
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 11: to a good health food store. I don't know if

1615
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 11: there's moms near you or something like that. They're very

1616
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 11: helpful to get a good probiotic and leave the milk

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01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 11: products alone. Leave the milk. Milk is for baby cows.

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01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 11: I've said that for forty years. So now people are

1619
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 11: beginning to understand that some of us, especially African Americans,

1620
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 11: think about this. We don't have the enzyme to digest it.

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01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 11: We're lactose intolerance, So what do we do We get lacta? No,

1622
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 11: you don't take a lactase till. Don't take it, don't eat,

1623
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 11: don't drink the milk, do plant based milk and take

1624
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 11: a probiotic.

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01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: So true. Thank you, doctor Sullivan.

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01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 11: Thank you. Happy holidays to everybody, Eat well, love yourselves,

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01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 11: and God bless us all.

1628
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Alrighty family, let's go to Ghana. Doctor Cambone is joined us.

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01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Doctor Cambone, Grand rising, welcome back to the program.

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01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 8: It's doctor Cambone, the good to be on the program.

1631
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 8: How are you?

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01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: Oh, we're still learning, brother, and thank you for Yes,

1633
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: we can hear you. We can hear you loud and clear.

1634
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: We're in Ghana. Are you out right now?

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01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 8: Proud Ghana? Right now. I live outside of the Eastern

1636
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 8: Region and the craft a mom boone, but I happened

1637
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 8: to be doing quite a few things for an upcoming

1638
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,799
Speaker 8: initiative that we have that's been endorsed by the Office

1639
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 8: of the President, our picture year for Turn Times Keen.

1640
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 8: So just doing a lot of the groundwork prior to

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01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 8: the announcement that's going to happen on December nineteen.

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01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: Oh. Yeah, we want to talk about that, but first

1643
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: we want to talk about h Rap Brown is some

1644
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: people knowing, but his real name he was a mom

1645
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Abdullah l Jamal Abdullah L men what's on him? If

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01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: you if you you're in Gannet, so what if if

1647
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: you would tell the Ghanaians about about him? What would

1648
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 1: you say about him?

1649
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 8: So, you know, just by way of you know, its history,

1650
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 8: I would give people, you know, just a broad sweep

1651
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 8: of his life in terms of going through what are

1652
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:27,480
Speaker 8: often characterized as different eras. So for example, from you know,

1653
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 8: quote unquote civil rights movement era, a student non violent

1654
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 8: Coordinating committee, you know, going into you know, the Black

1655
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 8: Power era, you know, going into you know, his conversion

1656
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 8: to Islam and uh, you know, just a lot of

1657
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 8: things that happen in his life that really defines, you know,

1658
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 8: what a lot of black people were dealing with at

1659
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 8: various points in time, you know, after the assassination of

1660
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 8: uh Alcoex and things along those lines.

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01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 8: And then also couched his life in the common six

1663
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 8: of you know, the context that he was you know,

1664
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 8: born in So he was born in Baton Loup, Baton Rouge, Louisiana,

1665
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 8: nineteen forty three, actually just a month after my father.

1666
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 8: And you know how even that type of context shape

1667
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 8: them was known as you know, one of the quote

1668
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 8: unquote for militants. Uh, you know, leaders coming out of

1669
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 8: the era, especially after non aquirements Ray formerly on the

1670
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 8: Stokely Carmichael handed over you know, student non volcab committee

1671
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 8: to have and for him, he was like, Yo, we're

1672
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 8: taking the no think the non b out of there.

1673
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 8: You know, if a new dog, it's a new Dave

1674
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 8: is American is terry pie and uh, you know we

1675
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 8: need to go ahead and get down and this America

1676
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 8: isn't got to come around, and we need to burn

1677
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 8: America down. So like you know, he was known as

1678
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:52,839
Speaker 8: rap right. Uh, you know his birth name was Hubert

1679
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 8: Jerald Brown. But the age after Hubert is where the

1680
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 8: h rap come then because of you know the Queen.

1681
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 8: That's what I said rap, because he could really rap.

1682
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,799
Speaker 8: So you know, I feel like a lot of people

1683
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 8: wouldn't know the background to him or the contexts in

1684
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 8: what he grew up. And you know that really ships

1685
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 8: as a man, as a person, ships amounts a leader,

1686
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 8: and you know you'll see him on cliffs. He was

1687
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 8: a very opposing thing. You're like six files. Some people

1688
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 8: say he's seven fee tall with afro, and uh he

1689
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 8: became They actually had laws that they passed. You know,

1690
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 8: it was actually reminds me of Proco in South Africa

1691
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 8: that they had like an eight rap brown right, that's

1692
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 8: just for him. You know, you can't cite a riot

1693
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 8: if you go across state line, the riot happens, then

1694
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 8: you're inside. And that was really because him that they

1695
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 8: said he was so powerful and eloquent speaker that he'll

1696
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 8: go somewhere and speak. And he was you know in

1697
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 8: sight at quote unquote riot. Now not a riot, this pavilion.

1698
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 8: It's a rocheous revolution, you know of black people. But

1699
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 8: that's what I would do. I just let people know

1700
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 8: about him. Wouldn't so that people would know him or

1701
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 8: you know, even about any of these eras I'm talking about,

1702
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 8: because well those of us who are in the US,

1703
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,919
Speaker 8: a lot of this would just be elementary. Not everybody,

1704
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 8: because you know, the best education system, but you know,

1705
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,759
Speaker 8: people have gotten you know, their their's gonna involved around

1706
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 8: what may or may not have happened in the US.

1707
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 8: I wouldness that people would know about Eras or know

1708
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 8: about him, but you know, just kind of do a

1709
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 8: needs assessment about all that and then you know, just

1710
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 8: let people know about him, who he was and what

1711
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 8: he meant to us as a past as a people.

1712
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: All right, hold, I felt right there doctor Campbo and

1713
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 1: and the state because we want to hear more about

1714
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 1: the eventual having coming up later this year in Ghana.

1715
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: It's called us from an outside of crowd family have

1716
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: twelve minutes after the top there, I was speaking about

1717
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 1: uh the band as you mentioned these forming known his

1718
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: h Rap Brown. He was in prison, became a name

1719
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: Mom jamil Men and Ron's joined us online six or Washington.

1720
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: You see Ron Molton, Ronnie, your thoughts on aka FKA

1721
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: if you will rap Brown, h Rap Brown? Your thoughts Ron, Well, I.

1722
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 13: Just first of all, I like to pay my respect

1723
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 13: to him and all my ancestors who sacrifice so much

1724
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 13: for us. And one of the things I learned from

1725
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 13: him and other great leaders who sacrifice the reality basically

1726
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 13: their life for the people, for humanity, is that you

1727
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 13: have to understand that in this country, in the world,

1728
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 13: when it comes to black people, those who sacrifice are punished.

1729
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 13: And if you're going to be a leader. I was

1730
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 13: always taught by even some people work with kings who

1731
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 13: I used to be around, that you are going to

1732
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 13: be attacked and you have to be prepared for it,

1733
01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 13: because that's how they operate. And here you have a

1734
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 13: person like this brother who was going through things in prison,

1735
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 13: and you find all type of criminals pardon, but this

1736
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 13: guy couldn't be pardoned to spend the rest of his

1737
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 13: time and life with his family and his community. And

1738
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 13: this is what we go through. And it just, you know,

1739
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 13: heartens me to see another great leader die in prison.

1740
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, he stood for

1741
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 13: what he stood for and we love him for that

1742
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 13: and we appreciate that all you know, all of his

1743
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 13: sacrifices and many others who have sacrificed that sometimes our

1744
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 13: own people turn our backs on them, you know, and

1745
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 13: we just got to, you know, make sure that this

1746
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 13: is known to our children, the next group of leaders

1747
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 13: that are that are raised in the world, that people

1748
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 13: like him, we stand on their shoulders because they sacrifice

1749
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 13: so much for us, but also to know what comes

1750
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 13: with the territory.

1751
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Ron, thank you for sharing your thoughts for us.

1752
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 1: Moten is an activist in Washington, d C. The Go

1753
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: Go Museum. How's that going? Before we let you go round?

1754
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 1: Its still in operation? An events coming out man.

1755
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 13: We've been we've been raising resources and funds were getting

1756
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 13: We just had the Deltas there, uh, the Federal City Deltas.

1757
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 13: They spend a ton of money in the museum. We

1758
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 13: had the Anarkosta Volunteers event there. The other day. We

1759
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 13: just had young i't know. We saw the article in

1760
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 13: the Washington Post, uh where we bringing back Go Go

1761
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 13: to the young people. So we had middle school students,

1762
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 13: high school students from the region compete against each other.

1763
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 13: And they're going to be competing uh at Sycamore and

1764
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 13: Noke on December the six and then they're going to

1765
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 13: be playing together at the Go Go Wars on January

1766
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 13: the sixth. Uh for the Go Go Wars at the

1767
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 13: Lincoln Theater. Well where a location that was once called

1768
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 13: Black Broadway. So we working man, we educated people. We're

1769
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 13: bringing people together. Uh we we as I told you,

1770
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 13: we brought our brothers and sisters from Brazil Columbia and

1771
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 13: they perform with Go Go bands. Were connecting the world,

1772
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 13: all people together in unity and love with our music

1773
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 13: and our culture. So it's been going well. We can

1774
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 13: get more people come in and support the cafe. They

1775
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 13: once they get in there, they love it. But we

1776
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 13: got a cafe too, so it's going well man, And

1777
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 13: the cafe talks about the diaspora that we created as

1778
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 13: we left Africa, going to Brazil, going to Belize, going

1779
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 13: to Cuba, going to you know, different parts of the world,

1780
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 13: you know. So we're doing well man, you know it's

1781
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,839
Speaker 13: going it's getting better. As far as the resources, yes.

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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 1: All right. So if folks want more information, is there

1783
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: a phone number or a place that they can go.

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Speaker 13: Yes, www, Go Go Museum Cafe dot com. You can

1785
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 13: go there and find out everything about the museum. Once again.

1786
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 13: We have actually have an event coming up this Saturday,

1787
01:43:56,200 --> 01:44:02,839
Speaker 13: the Create Fest that we're doing with the Anacostia Center

1788
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 13: that's in Anacostia. They close down, so they're using our

1789
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 13: space for the Anacosta Our Center for the Create Center,

1790
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 13: the Create the Convention I'm sorry, and that's gonna be

1791
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 13: all day with different companies, different entertainers who sell records,

1792
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 13: but also different entertainers coming through to perform. We had

1793
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 13: the food that's from one o'clock to I believe six

1794
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 13: o'clock this Saturday, so people can come through for that.

1795
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 13: We got black Flat Friday sale twenty percent off of

1796
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 13: all our clothes at the museum this Friday, and once

1797
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 13: again like Anacostia is the next Black Black Wall Street.

1798
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 13: We have over one hundred businesses in Anacossia and many

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01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 13: other are stores and restaurants.

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Speaker 1: Oh good deal. I thank you Ron. That's Ron Moting

1801
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: from washingt D. Thank you for sharing that information.

1802
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 2: Sam. We discussing appreciation.

1803
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: We're discussing discussing Jamal Abdulla our men forming known asation

1804
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Rob Brown, I guess it is doctor Cambone. He's called

1805
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 1: us from a crowd GNA doctor Combod. We got to

1806
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: take a short break so we come back. I want

1807
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: you to give the folks a little bit of your

1808
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: history so people know they know your name and know

1809
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,799
Speaker 1: about your dad. Now you use to live in the States,

1810
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: but they don't know what you've accomplished while you've been

1811
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: on the continent. And of course we want to talk

1812
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 1: more about our fearless leader who left us that would

1813
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: beat your meal abdul out Man family. You want to

1814
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: get in on this discussion, you can reach us at

1815
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six

1816
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next and grant Rising

1817
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: family thanks to staying with us on this Tuesday morning

1818
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: speaking with doctor Cambon and he's call us from a

1819
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: crowd Ghana. Also brother Sidiki Camboon. He's going to join

1820
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: us Momentelli. First, we've got the conversation of about the

1821
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: man who said America is as violence is as American

1822
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: as cherry pie. People say it was an applifibers, it

1823
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: was cherry pie back then he was another h Rap

1824
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Brown that was back in the sixties and the mid sixties

1825
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: when he said that, he went on to because doctor

1826
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Combo mentioned he went on to join your steak with

1827
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 1: a Sneak and he was there with Stoke with then

1828
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: stocom Michael went on to be from me Teray. But

1829
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 1: that's a combo for the folks who are having you

1830
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: for the first time because you moved to your entire

1831
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: family to Ghana. Before we talk more about h Rap Brown,

1832
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 1: what made you want to move to Ghana.

1833
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 8: Well, I can't say exactly similar to Hrap Brown, ok Jamil.

1834
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,480
Speaker 8: I mean, but I my self experienced you know, racism

1835
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 8: and you know, so forth up the hands of the

1836
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 8: polite and I made a decision that you know, never

1837
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 8: again will I be in a jurisdiction where you know,

1838
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 8: some white judge, so called white judge can this said,

1839
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 8: I'm not going to see my family for ten years

1840
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 8: that you know, they're going to lock me up on

1841
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 8: some Trump up charges. And really, anyone who's in the

1842
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 8: US knows that at any point in time, it doesn't

1843
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 8: matter if you're a billionaire or a CEO or professor

1844
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 8: of twenty PhDs. You know, if you're black and on

1845
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 8: a whim, they can shoot you on a whim. You know,

1846
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 8: even post racial scholars like Skip Gates, they'll kick in

1847
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 8: the door and knock him up. So you know, for me,

1848
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 8: you know, I just decided, let me go to a

1849
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 8: place where you know, people, especially in the US, grew

1850
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 8: up in the USC quote unquote white people as having

1851
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 8: almost unlimited power. You know, you'll see the stopping frisk

1852
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 8: and all the type of thing. Well, guess what, in Ghana,

1853
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 8: they can't do stopping frisks. They just don't have the

1854
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 8: manpower on the ground to do stopping friss They can't

1855
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 8: do driving while black. I'm sure they wish they had

1856
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 8: the power to do that, but they just don't have

1857
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 8: the officers on the ground to be able to do

1858
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 8: driving while black. And plood. Everybody here is black, so

1859
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 8: they wouldn't get very far with that. So, you know,

1860
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 8: because I did a year study, I brought my mother

1861
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 8: brought me here in nineteen ninety eight, I got a

1862
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 8: sense that there are other opportunities in the world beyond

1863
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 8: you know, this tango dance that we're doing with these

1864
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 8: non blacks in the United States of a murderer. And

1865
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 8: you know, I actually thought of it when I saw

1866
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 8: that Baba Jamel Alamin had is that, you know, because

1867
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 8: he was still you know in the US. You know,

1868
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 8: they said, oh, you know, after I think it was

1869
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 8: something like after twenty eight years, we finally got him.

1870
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 8: And you know, basically what they were saying is that

1871
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 8: what he did in his youth, they never and it's

1872
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 8: like Haiti, they never forgive black people for beating them

1873
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 8: or defeating them or making them look bad. So they

1874
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 8: have a grudge against ip to have a grudge. They

1875
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 8: had a grudge against man outside a Shakur million dollar bounty.

1876
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 8: They basically are dedicated to make sure that there is

1877
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 8: no example of successfully speaking up against them, fighting back

1878
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 8: against them, defeating them in war, or anything else. So

1879
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 8: you know, for me, once I'm clear on that, then

1880
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 8: I know that I am not intending on living in

1881
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,640
Speaker 8: a land where they have the power to do all

1882
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 8: the things that they do, Like I'm just gonna you know,

1883
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 8: they'll be like, I'm just gonna lock this guy up

1884
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 8: because I don't like what he said back in you know,

1885
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 8: nineteen seventies. Oh, I'm gonna lock this guy up because

1886
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 8: you said burn America down. I'm gonna lock this guy

1887
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 8: up because he fought back against the police. Right the

1888
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 8: police are shooting at him, He's gonna shoot right back,

1889
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 8: you know, I'm talking about back in the seventies. But

1890
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,839
Speaker 8: then you know, they're gonna just trump up some charges

1891
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 8: where you had another guy, Otis Jackson, who actually admitted

1892
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 8: to you know, shooting these police officers. But they don't

1893
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 8: want to hear that. They're like, yo, we got the

1894
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 8: one who we want. So you know, for me, I

1895
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 8: moved my entire family here, both of my parents, my

1896
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 8: wife is here. I have five children here. I'm a

1897
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 8: professor at the University of Ghana, both the award winning scholar.

1898
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 8: As I mentioned earlier, we have an initiative that's been

1899
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 8: endorsed by the Officer of the President called Decade of

1900
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 8: our Repatriation. Dr so if you look at the year

1901
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 8: of returning, it was basically like a year to return

1902
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 8: and come and party or whatever people were doing. This

1903
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 8: isn't about just return and then go back and get

1904
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 8: a knee on your neck, go back and get I

1905
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 8: can't breathe, go back and get hands up, don't shoot,

1906
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 8: and being Filando, ca stealed and Sandra blanded. This isn't

1907
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 8: about any of those. This is where people can actually

1908
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 8: come and get their citizenship. They can actually come and relocate.

1909
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 8: So this is an initiative that's been put forth by

1910
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 8: Repatriot Toghana dot com. Again, that's Repatriotsaghana dot com. We

1911
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 8: have those who are our clients who were already submitting

1912
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 8: their names for the next list of citizenship. And you know,

1913
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 8: it's a beautiful thing when people can come back home

1914
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 8: and be accepted, be respected, and they don't have to

1915
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Speaker 8: deal with all of the shenanigans of you know, Donald

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Speaker 8: Chump or anybody else that you can actually live and

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Speaker 8: you're not worried. And you know, for me, it actually

1918
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Speaker 8: dawned on me when I was driving in hot chose

1919
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Speaker 8: a neighborhood and a crop and a police car. You know,

1920
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Speaker 8: pulled up behind me with sirens going and lights flashing

1921
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Speaker 8: and just went around me. And I realized. I was like,

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Speaker 8: I think this is the first time in my life

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Speaker 8: and I was driving since I was sixteen. I was

1924
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Speaker 8: I think that's the first time in my life that

1925
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Speaker 8: a police car came behind me in my heart didn't

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Speaker 8: jump like literally a physiological reaction. Quarters are you know,

1927
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Speaker 8: popping off for fight or flight type of response, and

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Speaker 8: you know, people just think those things are normal. But

1929
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Speaker 8: I said, this is the first time that I think

1930
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Speaker 8: in my life that I didn't have that type of situation.

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Speaker 8: And I think people don't realize the stress, the you know,

1932
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Speaker 8: impact on the heart and so forth, that those type

1933
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Speaker 8: of things happen until they're out of that situation and

1934
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Speaker 8: they realize that, you know what, that's not normal, right,

1935
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Speaker 8: We get used to it, but it's quite abnormal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, I can convare to that I've experienced

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Speaker 1: that myself. Family. Twenty eight minutes off the top of

1938
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: the hour, you heard doctor from uh Ghana. He's speaking

1939
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: doctor Obadelli Akadi come bone. He's speaking to us from Ghana,

1940
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 1: just sing about brother a, mom and Jamil abdulah l

1941
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: I men formerly known as h Rav Brown. So let's

1942
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: go stateside from home and speak to brother Sidigi Comba

1943
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the man formerly known as h Rap Brown.

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Speaker 14: Well, uh, let me just say this, brother Kyle, that uh,

1945
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 14: physically we've lost brother Alavan Viasily h Rap Brown, but

1946
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Speaker 14: in terms of his spirit that's still among us. Look,

1947
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:32,560
Speaker 14: I'm a grandfather and uh, you know comes through the

1948
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 14: many years and you know, being a black man, you

1949
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 14: understand if you're out here advocating for our people, then

1950
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 14: you're going to be under attacker. I've lost jobs, things

1951
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 14: of that nature, the whole thing based on what I do.

1952
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 14: But for me, uh, the spirit of that brother still exists,

1953
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 14: and I believe in some respects it's gonna have an

1954
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Speaker 14: impact or already is having any impact on our younger

1955
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 14: folks out here. Give an example recently, I was in

1956
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 14: a meeting and so one of the young men in

1957
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 14: the meeting, it was brother's ancestors, and they said, you

1958
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 14: know the brother said, you know, he said, Brother Sadiki.

1959
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 14: He said, you know, there aren't many folks like yourself

1960
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 14: left out here, but we really appreciate you in terms

1961
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:32,599
Speaker 14: of who you are and have been and have inspired us.

1962
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Speaker 14: And so I just give that an example of brother

1963
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 14: Ellman in terms of the impact that he's out. You know,

1964
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 14: he might have been imprisoned. These are the physically, but

1965
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Speaker 14: as it pertains to his impact and his belief and

1966
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 14: what weird black people have to do, it was alive

1967
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 14: in a well outside of that cell wall. And so

1968
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Speaker 14: he's a brother that we need to look at, as

1969
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Speaker 14: you know, as an inspiration and it's important to carry

1970
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Speaker 14: on the work that he has. You know, Beene isuelved

1971
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 14: with and many of us are involved with. So he's

1972
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 14: an inspiration inspiration.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, brother brother, see you with the

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Speaker 1: newbie and leadership circle. We'll talk to you guys next week.

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Speaker 1: Brother Sidiki, thank you for joining us this morning. Yes,

1976
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's go back and let's go back

1977
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: across the ocean to doctor Cumbo and doctor Pane. You

1978
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: have a conference on Black liberation coming up?

1979
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Speaker 8: Yes, we do. Actually, so we have three events and

1980
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 8: these are part of the pre announcement events for a

1981
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 8: decade of our repatriation. So the first is actually coming

1982
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Speaker 8: up this Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and that's the b

1983
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Speaker 8: b to me, a Bibi fan Judier Film Festival a

1984
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 8: f f b b too me translates to black power

1985
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Speaker 8: and the tree language of Ghana and abba jodi translates

1986
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 8: to black liberation again in the tree language of Ghana.

1987
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Speaker 8: So see I bib to me a bib Fajudia Film Festival.

1988
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Speaker 8: For those who are interested, they can check out film

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Speaker 8: Fest adults a Bibefajodier dot org. And I'll spell ajdier.

1990
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 8: I think everybody else knows how to spell film festival

1991
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 8: and the dot org. But bbfijdier is a b i

1992
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Speaker 8: b i f a h oo d i e so

1993
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Speaker 8: film Festival a bbfajodier dot org. And we have you know,

1994
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Speaker 8: quite a few, you know, notable you know actors and

1995
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 8: you know people major in the film industry who are

1996
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 8: going to be a part of this event. And what

1997
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 8: we're doing is we're highlighting you know, long form documentaries, films,

1998
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Speaker 8: you know, student films, animations and so forth that are

1999
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 8: all touching on the theme of what black power is,

2000
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Speaker 8: demonstration over conversation or be about what you said that

2001
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 8: you're about. You got so many people who just grab

2002
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 8: a mic and you don't know, all right, does this

2003
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 8: guy even have a black wife. You know, where's this

2004
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 8: person's children? You know, is this person taking care of

2005
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 8: their parents?

2006
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 2: Like what?

2007
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Speaker 8: They're just kind of free radicals. They just hop up.

2008
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 8: Your might say some cute stuff, but you don't know

2009
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 8: if the actually about anything that they say that they're about.

2010
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Speaker 8: One day you may see them and a donhiki. The

2011
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 8: next day you may see them and the tuxedo is like,

2012
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 8: you know, where is this person? So this is really

2013
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 8: about those who have demonstrated what black power is. And

2014
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 8: we have people who are doing amazing things here in

2015
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Speaker 8: Ghana and beyond. But you know, here in Ghana, those

2016
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 8: who are dealing with agriculture. We have a brother who

2017
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Speaker 8: has this huge Maringa farm that is open for investments.

2018
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Speaker 8: We have another brother who's doing a multimillion dollar development

2019
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Speaker 8: you know, actually a couple of towns away from where

2020
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 8: I'm located in the Eastern Region. We have all these

2021
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 8: people who are doing just such amazing work. And these

2022
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 8: aren't the people who are just trying to grab the

2023
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 8: next microphone. And oh, I'm the you know, speaker of

2024
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 8: the year. I'm the keynote speaker for life. Right, I've

2025
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 8: declared myself like a dictator keynote speaker for life. These

2026
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 8: are some of the unsung heroes but who are doing

2027
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 8: amazing work that's transforming the lots of people by like

2028
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 8: I said, dealing with agriculture, with housing, with building, in

2029
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Speaker 8: the film industry, and every single aspect of life that

2030
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,839
Speaker 8: you can think of, from psychology to culture and slash

2031
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 8: history to you know, environment, to education, to spirituality, to politics,

2032
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 8: to social all of it, to health, all of these

2033
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 8: different components. So that's for the film festival that's coming

2034
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 8: up November twenty eight through thirtieth. It's going to be

2035
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 8: on the ground in Ghana and also virtual, so we're

2036
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 8: taking away excuses from people. They'll be like, well, I

2037
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 8: can't come to Ghana, so I can't participate. Wrong, you

2038
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 8: can't participate. We have a virtual component. You can see

2039
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 8: all of these films. You know, these are films some

2040
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 8: of which have never been seen before, never been screened before.

2041
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 8: And there's going to be award ceremony component and we

2042
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 8: actually named the Legacy Award after my father, Nanakamal Combund

2043
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 8: Legacy Award and that's going to be given to Niquaiti

2044
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 8: Awol who had groundbreaking films back in the early seventies.

2045
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 8: One was called you had Me where he was able

2046
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 8: to actually get into the basement of the British Museum

2047
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 8: I call it the British Museum and take of these

2048
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 8: artifacts that hadn't been seen by anybody Black for sometimes

2049
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 8: one hundred, two hundred and three hundred years, and he

2050
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 8: actually uncovered that under the British Museum actually had a

2051
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 8: railway system to go from one city block to another

2052
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 8: city block worth of stolen artifacts. They were like, oh,

2053
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 8: this is the Beneth Section of stolen artifacts, this is

2054
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 8: the Assisia Section of stolen artifacts. And it was just

2055
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 8: mind blowing. So a lot of what you see now

2056
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 8: that's kind of topical in terms of the repatriation of

2057
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 8: artifacts back to the continent. He was, you know, one

2058
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 8: of the pioneers for that. So he is the recipient

2059
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 8: of the Legacy Award. We have others who you know,

2060
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 8: have played in major films like be Some Nonation and

2061
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 8: so forth. I'm a kase A Jay nine who's probably

2062
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 8: the biggest actor in Ghana right now. Kafee Day very

2063
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 8: well known here in the Ghana space, you know, dealing

2064
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 8: with the media and so forth. So just so many

2065
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 8: you know, major names and my creative director is on

2066
01:58:56,080 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 8: a multi award winning director uh and he's actually lying

2067
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 8: in from Nigeria tomorrow and then myself hosting. So that's

2068
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 8: the first of the events. Then we have the virtual conference.

2069
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 8: That one is happening December fifth, the seventh, and that

2070
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 8: one is on bbtwo me dot com. Again that's Black

2071
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 8: Power A b I b I t U m I

2072
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 8: dot com. And then finally we have the grand one

2073
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 8: which is December twelfth through the fourteenth, and that's part

2074
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 8: of the Sancophi Journey s A n K O F

2075
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 8: A j O U r n e Y Sancophi Journey

2076
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 8: dot com. And that, like I said, it includes the conference.

2077
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 8: We have you know, some of the government endorsements from

2078
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 8: the Office of the President, GNA, Tourism Development Company, Ministry

2079
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 8: of Tourism, all of them will be you know represented

2080
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 8: well there at the conference. On the first day, some

2081
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 8: of these people will have multi million sometimes multi billion

2082
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 8: dollar project that are all under the umbrella a decade

2083
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 8: of our repatriation. They'll be speaking. On the second day,

2084
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 8: we have another award ceremony, this time not for film

2085
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 8: but for those who are dealing with demonstration over conversations.

2086
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 8: So Chairman Fred Hampton Junior will becoming live in the

2087
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 8: flesh all the way here to Ghana to receive an

2088
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 8: award for his own work, but then also a posthumous

2089
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 8: award for his father's work. We have others, you know,

2090
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 8: President Ibrahim Tarred were presenting an award to him. President Muhamma,

2091
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 8: the President of Ghana, who actually spearheaded what we now

2092
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 8: know as a citizenship initiative that's now been you know,

2093
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 8: copied by Sierra Leone and Benin and getting Bisal and

2094
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 8: so forth and so on, that he was dealing with

2095
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,320
Speaker 8: that back in twenty sixteen, and I was one of

2096
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 8: those who got citizenship back there way before the year

2097
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 8: of Returner all of these other you know, initiatives even

2098
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 8: came up. So you know, we have quite a lot

2099
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 8: going on, and anybody who's interested you can download our apps.

2100
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 8: Just do a search on the app store or the

2101
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 8: place store for a bbtwo me and you'll find out more. Also,

2102
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:56,360
Speaker 8: you can go to a bbtwo me dot com and

2103
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 8: find out more about all of the events that are happening.

2104
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 8: But basically what this is is the solution to the

2105
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Speaker 8: problems that we talk about. You know, sometimes people will

2106
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 8: come to Ghana and they'll see, you know, white imaginary

2107
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 8: white boy and a sticky I call him a BRONICKI

2108
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 8: bob right. Uh, this this white guy who everybody prays

2109
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Speaker 8: to every Sunday And they're like, well, why is that

2110
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 8: happening in Ghana? Well, where are you in order to

2111
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 8: change the narrative, because the so called white missionaries are

2112
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 8: here twenty four to seven coming that into people's heads. Well,

2113
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 8: where are you to do something like a film festival

2114
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 8: to get the idea of black power out there, to

2115
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 8: get the ideas that we're championed by those like Dona

2116
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 8: Jamil Alamin? Where are those who are you know, coming

2117
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Speaker 8: with the idea that we don't have the.

2118
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Speaker 1: Doctor Kimbo, we take a short, I'll let you finish,

2119
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, well please tell us. You know, when you

2120
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Speaker 1: get people here, you're having a black liberation conferencing Ghana.

2121
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 1: We figured that if you're Ghanna, you're already liberated, So

2122
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: explain it that for us when we get back as well.

2123
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 1: It's twenty three note's away from the top of a family.

2124
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 1: Were speaking with doctor Combo and call this from Ghana

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Speaker 1: outside of a craw You want to join this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to us right here at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

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Speaker 1: your phone calls next and Grand Rising Family, thanks for

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Speaker 1: staying with us on this Tuesday morning. Our guest is

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Speaker 1: doctor Abbadelli Comebone. He's moved to Ghana. He's a Ghanaian

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Speaker 1: citizen and he's a professor at the college at one

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Speaker 1: of the universities there and he teaches Ghanaians how to

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Speaker 1: speak their language, tweet and the other languages as well.

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Speaker 1: He'll tell us about that. But he's having a conference

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Speaker 1: on black liberation in Ghana. And before we go back

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Speaker 1: to I'm just remind you comp late this morning Black

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Speaker 1: voters matters. Latasha Brown, will Joe Much. She's gonna explain

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Speaker 1: why we should be more selective in our purchases this

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Speaker 1: holiday season. And come up in the next few days,

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Speaker 1: you're going to hear from multi talented researcher brother katy Awadu,

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Speaker 1: also futuristic reacher brother Sidikia Bakari, and historian Michael Michael

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Speaker 1: Mtip all going to be here. So if you're in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: keep you radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB

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Speaker 1: or if you're in the DMV around fourteen fifty WL.

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Speaker 1: So let's go back to to come home there in Ghana.

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Speaker 1: So my question before before left for the break, you're

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Speaker 1: having a black liberation conference in Ghana. People were wondering, well,

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Speaker 1: I am the black. Aren't we free in Africa? What's

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Speaker 1: the need to have a black liberation conference in Ghana?

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Speaker 1: What say you?

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Speaker 8: That's a great question as I so, I'm here at

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Speaker 8: the University of Media, Arts and Communication. We have an

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Speaker 8: MoU and they are the number one university in Ghana

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Speaker 8: for film and so forth to the last in relation

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Speaker 8: to the film festival we have coming up this weekend. Now.

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Speaker 8: On my way here, I passed by a billboard called

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Speaker 8: Mego White, and that was for skin bleaching. Right, so

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Speaker 8: if you are really free, then you won't see As

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Speaker 8: matter of fact, as I passed by it, I said,

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Speaker 8: if I was president, and this is probably while not president,

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Speaker 8: I would ban every single aspect of the self hatred industry.

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Speaker 8: And that's from the skin bleaching to the perming, to

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Speaker 8: the whigs, to all of these nasty things that people

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Speaker 8: go to the ugly parlor for to try to look

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Speaker 8: like these non black pigs and you know, dog like fur.

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Speaker 8: I would ban all of that, and I in addition

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Speaker 8: to that, I would probably cane the owners of those

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Speaker 8: companies publicly. You know, places like I think Philippines and

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Speaker 8: the Nis. They'll catch you for something, they'll cane you publicly.

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Speaker 8: I think everybody who's making money off of the self

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Speaker 8: hatred industry should be kane publicly. But that's my own

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Speaker 8: personal opinion. This is not reflective views or opinion of

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Speaker 8: the host or the stations. But you know, when we

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Speaker 8: talk about black liberation, I think that sometimes you know,

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Speaker 8: it's it's people think about it like liberation and the

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Speaker 8: sense of hedonism H E, D O N I S M,

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Speaker 8: which is, you know, I do whatever I want to do,

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Speaker 8: whatever makes me feel good. I'm liberated. Oh let me

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Speaker 8: go feel good and so forth. So you know, people

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Speaker 8: can get in the drugs and sec that's not what

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Speaker 8: liberation is. Liberation means that you're taking up more responsibility.

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Speaker 8: This means that instead of buying cars from our enemies,

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Speaker 8: that we manufacture our own cars. And I'm sitting in

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Speaker 8: a contong.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we haven't lost the doctor Cambone sounds like his

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Speaker 1: phone dropped there for a second, fifteen minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top they are. So it happens on the international calls.

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Speaker 1: He's calling us from across Ghana and so hopefully he'll

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Speaker 1: call back. Sometimes figures while you're still talking, you figure

2190
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Speaker 1: out that the line has dropped. You know that happens.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, he's having a conference on black liberation and

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Speaker 1: Ghana coming up, as he'd mentioned, also having the film festival.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be interesting because if I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if many of you have seen any African films, sure

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Speaker 1: to sell them. A lot is swap meets, especially Nigerian films.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge industry in Nigeria make these films. And

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Speaker 1: now I see online where somebody's come up with the

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Speaker 1: I T to make these short films. Yeah, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be broadcast and you can broadcast them online. All right,

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Speaker 1: we have the doctor Cambone back from across so doctor,

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Speaker 1: come on, I'll let you finish your thought.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no problem. I didn't know if it was maybe

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Speaker 8: the CIA cutting my line because I don't like what

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Speaker 8: I'm saying. But I'm back all this saying. You know,

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Speaker 8: I got something to say, like Nana h Rap Brown

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Speaker 8: aka Bubba Jamil Men as well. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 8: this is the thing, is that some people think about

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Speaker 8: liberation as doing whatever they want to do. And as

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Speaker 8: Nana m as Wilson said, how come every single time

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Speaker 8: the black man quote unquote does whatever he wants to do,

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Speaker 8: it just so happens to enrich you know, these non

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Speaker 8: blacks here. And you know, this is what we're seeing

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Speaker 8: in Ghana. Like I'm saying, skin and bleaching cream, billboards,

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Speaker 8: perm billboards, you know, with billboards and all these types

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Speaker 8: of things. It's rare to be in Ghana and see

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Speaker 8: anyone wearing clothes made by black people. I can be

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Speaker 8: on campus and out of every thousand students, you may

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Speaker 8: get one who's wearing anything made by black people. And

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Speaker 8: that may even be too high of a ratio. So

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Speaker 8: when we talk about liberation is it isn't just oh,

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Speaker 8: let me go and do whatever quote unquote white stuff

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Speaker 8: I want to do. It means that you've taken up

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Speaker 8: responsibility for manufacturing your own cars. Actually did a study

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Speaker 8: a couple of years back, and I was looking at

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Speaker 8: the heads of state of you know, any country that's

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Speaker 8: actually free and the type of cars that they drive.

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Speaker 8: So the impest of Japan at that time was driving

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Speaker 8: a one off Toyota Century that was worth half a

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Speaker 8: million dollars. The head of China was driving a hong Key,

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Speaker 8: which is a you know brand I don't even know

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Speaker 8: up right. The head of Korea, head of State of

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Speaker 8: Korea was driving a Hondai Equus. The head of State

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Speaker 8: of the US was driving a Cadillac. The head of

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Speaker 8: State of Germany had BMW Mercedes Benz. I can go

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Speaker 8: on down the line Bentley for UK, Lapsia, Thesis for Italy,

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Speaker 8: Poujo and Cicro and for France. But then when you

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Speaker 8: come to the continent, the head of state are driving

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Speaker 8: wet Toyota land Cruisers and so forth. Meanwhile you have

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Speaker 8: a car company that's made here in Ghana. But you know, again,

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Speaker 8: this is the brain damage that many of us suffer

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Speaker 8: from that you know, if it's quote unquote white, then

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Speaker 8: it's all right. The white man's ice is colder. So

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Speaker 8: you know, these are reasons why we need a Black

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Speaker 8: Liberation Conference because you have too many people who are enslaved,

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Speaker 8: not just mentally, but you know, in terms of their behavior.

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Speaker 8: And that's why our theme for this year is what

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Speaker 8: black power is demonstration over conversation, be about what you

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Speaker 8: say you're about. You can have every leader on the

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Speaker 8: continent that talk about, oh, this is what we need

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Speaker 8: to do as a people. Oh, we want quote unquote

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Speaker 8: Africa to be free and we want Africa and then

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Speaker 8: you go and say, okay, well what car do you

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Speaker 8: drop right now? Speaking to you on a phone that's

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Speaker 8: made in Burkina Fasso by Horizon Industries. The model I'm

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Speaker 8: using it is called Hope. Actually have two of those phones.

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Speaker 8: Why am I doing that? Because I'm actually serious about

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Speaker 8: what I say that I'm about. If I'm saying, oh,

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Speaker 8: what we all need to do, I need to be

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Speaker 8: the first one, you know, at the front of the

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Speaker 8: line actually doing it. What's the point of me getting

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Speaker 8: up on your radio show and talking about, oh, all

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Speaker 8: black people need to support black businesses and then I'm

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Speaker 8: you know, using the iPhone or a Samsung when there

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Speaker 8: are black phone companies that are out here in the

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Speaker 8: world that I can support. Why would I be driving

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Speaker 8: around in any of those non black vehicles when I

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Speaker 8: know that not only does Ghana have a car company,

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Speaker 8: but bi Quina Fosso that I just came from, has

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Speaker 8: an electric vehicle company called Etahwa. I got a chance

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Speaker 8: to go to the showroom and to the factory that

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Speaker 8: they're building under construction right now. So you know, these

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Speaker 8: are the things that make it very practical. Right in

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Speaker 8: terms of the clothes that we wear. What's the point

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Speaker 8: of me coming out and giving a lecture and then

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Speaker 8: put it on a white website get a million views,

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Speaker 8: and you know, I'm talking about what all black people

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Speaker 8: need to do and I'm wearing a suit and tie

2278
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,240
Speaker 8: not you know, I don't want anybody feel personally like

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Speaker 8: I don't even know what anybody's wearing. This is radio,

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Speaker 8: So I don't want anybody to feel like I'm attacking

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Speaker 8: them personally. But I'm like, at a certain point in time,

2282
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Speaker 8: the rubber has to hit the road and we actually

2283
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 8: have to be about what we say that we're about,

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Speaker 8: not just in the areas that I'm talking about a

2285
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Speaker 8: vehicle or a phone or clothes, but in every single area.

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Speaker 8: I've never spoken a word of English to my children.

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Speaker 8: I speak to them in Pi, the major language of Ghana.

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Speaker 8: I speak to them in Yoruba, I speak to them

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Speaker 8: in wellof I speak to them in Ki Swahili. I

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Speaker 8: speak to the Mi in Kikongo. And these are for

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Speaker 8: me again actually being about what I said that I'm about,

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02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 8: and that's what these events are all about. When we

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Speaker 8: talk about the BB to me a Bbfajudia festival. People

2294
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Speaker 8: will come here on lament.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 8: When I get into a taxi, I see an American

2297
02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 8: flag or an Israeli flag or a white Jesus. But

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Speaker 8: I'm like, well, what are you doing here? In order

2299
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 8: to change the narrative, to shift people's focus away from

2300
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 8: praying to imaginary white people to now actually understanding who

2301
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 8: they are and what they need to do in terms

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02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 8: of black power and black liberation. You know, people can

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02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 8: come to Ghana and they're like, oh, in Ghana, you

2304
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 8: know this is a problem or that's a problem. Well

2305
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,560
Speaker 8: what are you doing? What I always say is just

2306
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:45,600
Speaker 8: like people are, you know, on the East Coad somewhere

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Speaker 8: with binoculars and then they're looking at the continent and

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Speaker 8: they're like, oh, is it perfect yet? Is it perfect yet?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 8: No, Okay, Well call me back when it's perfect. No,

2311
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 8: we're supposed to be here building the land of black people.

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Speaker 8: Just again my own opinion on this, because so many

2313
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 8: of our answerts, but not just my opinion, because again,

2314
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Speaker 8: so many of our grandcesters and elders have said that

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Speaker 8: until this land is a world power, no black person

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Speaker 8: will be respected anywhere on the planet Earth. Isn't that

2317
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Speaker 8: what we're seeing. Isn't that what we're seeing when a

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Speaker 8: mad Aubrey is going out the jog and he can

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Speaker 8: be shot down. Why because they know that there are

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Speaker 8: no rewards, you know, from black people, and then there

2321
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 8: are also no publishments for black people for doing anything

2322
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 8: other than whatever they want to do. How do they

2323
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Speaker 8: know that you know they can do an Oscar Grant?

2324
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 8: How do they know that they can do an Ayana Jones?

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Speaker 8: How do they know that they can do it to

2326
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 8: mere rights? How do they know that they can do it?

2327
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do jallo? How do they know because they say, oh,

2328
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Speaker 8: the place where these people come from is not a

2329
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Speaker 8: world power. I guess what. They're not doing that to

2330
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Speaker 8: the Chinese because they know the Chinese got news. They're

2331
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 8: not doing that to the Indians. They're not doing that

2332
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Speaker 8: to the Israelis. They're not doing that to anybody who's

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Speaker 8: coming from a place that can bring you know, substantive

2334
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Speaker 8: power to bear, and you know that's what's going on.

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02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,920
Speaker 8: So for some of us, we want to be spending

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Speaker 8: our productive lives. I'm forty six years old and I've

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02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:06,800
Speaker 8: been living in Ghana since i was twenty eight. This

2338
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 8: is seventeen going on eighteen years now in Ghana. Why

2339
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 8: because the things that I'm doing, I know that these

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02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:16,640
Speaker 8: students who I'm teaching at the university are gonna be

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02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 8: the future presidents. They're gonna be the future ministers, They're

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02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 8: gonna be the future decision makers. And it's gonna be

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02:12:22,120 --> 02:12:24,680
Speaker 8: the first time in a long time that you're gonna

2344
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:27,720
Speaker 8: have decision makers who aren't spending all their time praying

2345
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 8: to imagine their white people. It's gonna be the first

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02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 8: time in a long time that they're going to be like,

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02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 8: you know what, I'm not wearing white people clothes anymore,

2348
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 8: or white people's draws. I'm gonna make my own draws.

2349
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,160
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have a seamstress come through. I'm gonna have

2350
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 8: a tailor come through. I'm gonna make my own. And

2351
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 8: these are the impacts. I have so many students who

2352
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:48,360
Speaker 8: went from calling themselves Noah and Eric and Roland and

2353
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 8: all these white names to saying, you know what, I

2354
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,840
Speaker 8: don't want to use I'm not a white person. I

2355
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:55,040
Speaker 8: don't want to use a white name. These are people

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02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:57,840
Speaker 8: I can name, people who I've impacted over the years,

2357
02:12:58,200 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 8: who have changed their entire life jectory off of what

2358
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 8: I've taught them. But again, you got to be in

2359
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 8: it to winn and you can't come for a vacation

2360
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 8: complain about what's going on in Ghana unless you want

2361
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 8: to be a part of changing what's going on in

2362
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:14,280
Speaker 8: Ghana and Nigeria. And you know, I'm not into these

2363
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:16,480
Speaker 8: Berlin Conference borders, so you don't have to come to

2364
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 8: this neo colonial fragment that they call Ghana anywhere on

2365
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Speaker 8: the continent. We need to make Kimmit black again. Kimm

2366
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:25,960
Speaker 8: It means the land of black people, so we need

2367
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 8: to stop calling it Africa and start calling the whole

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Speaker 8: continent Kimmit because as long as this is the land

2369
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:34,320
Speaker 8: of black people, it's our duty, it's our job, it's

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02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 8: our mission to make Kimmit black again. So that's what

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02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 8: I have to say. So check out I bib you

2372
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 8: to me dot com, download the apps. Just download the apps.

2373
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 8: You know you got people who say there you know

2374
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 8: for black people, and they spend all the time on

2375
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:49,760
Speaker 8: white websites and white apps. Well, the first thing you

2376
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:53,680
Speaker 8: can do on demonstration over conversation is just clicking a

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02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 8: button downloading an app. And that shows me that you're

2378
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 8: really about what you say about but not even me,

2379
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,640
Speaker 8: It shows your own own children. That shows you yourself

2380
02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:04,360
Speaker 8: and your children that oh, when my father talks about

2381
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:06,840
Speaker 8: that black stuff, he's really doing it, and I'm seeing

2382
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 8: him doing it in this area and that area. So

2383
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 8: you know, that's what it's all about. And you know,

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Speaker 8: I'd like to invite everybody. All three of these events

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02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:18,440
Speaker 8: have virtual components. So the Film Festival this Friday, Saturday

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02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:21,640
Speaker 8: and Sunday has a virtual component. You can find that

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02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:26,800
Speaker 8: on film festival dot org. The virtual conference is of

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02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:29,640
Speaker 8: course all virtual, and then of course we have coming

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02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:32,720
Speaker 8: up the main hybrid conference, which is on the ground

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02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:36,120
Speaker 8: here in Acreftim Mompo in the Eastern Region at a

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02:14:36,160 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 8: BB to me headquarters. If you put B between me

2392
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:41,760
Speaker 8: on the map, then you'll see exactly where we're located.

2393
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 8: You'll see the beautiful event, you know, facilities that we have.

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02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 8: Some people call it the most beautiful on the entire continent.

2395
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:51,120
Speaker 8: So if you look up b between me, you can

2396
02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 8: see that we have architecture based on the worldview of

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02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:57,800
Speaker 8: black people. Even the painting is coming from the upper

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02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 8: East of Ghana and Burkina Fasso. You know, the cars

2399
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 8: we drive are contentas we're entirely running on our own

2400
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:07,240
Speaker 8: solar system. We have our own water catchment to some

2401
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 8: why because this is demonstration over conversation. We can't say, oh,

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02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:15,240
Speaker 8: black people should do for self and then we're dependent

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02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:18,440
Speaker 8: on you know, the non black electricity company. We can't

2404
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:21,160
Speaker 8: say we should be self sufficient and independent. But guess

2405
02:15:21,160 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 8: what if the quote unquote white man shuts off the water,

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02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 8: then what are we doing? And you know I got

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02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 8: that from my parents. They moved away from Brooklyn at

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02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 8: the height of you had all these things. You know,

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02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 8: you could go to the lecture series. Everybody's talking about

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02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:37,240
Speaker 8: black liberation and let's get free and O who's outside

2411
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:39,960
Speaker 8: freedom now? But nobody in New York can do any

2412
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 8: of those things because they know that they depend on

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02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 8: the subway, they depend on the you know, white company,

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02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 8: they depend on the water company. Every single person there

2415
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 8: is one hundred percent dependent on their you know, health care.

2416
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:54,680
Speaker 8: I should call it the sick care that they do.

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02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:57,080
Speaker 8: So if you actually want to be about what you

2418
02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:59,440
Speaker 8: say about, then you do what my parents did, which

2419
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:01,920
Speaker 8: is moved to the South. They built their own log

2420
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:04,680
Speaker 8: cabin in the woods, they dug their own well, they

2421
02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 8: grew their own food. And that's what I grew up with.

2422
02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 8: That's normal for me. So people look at me like, oh,

2423
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:10,480
Speaker 8: you know you're doing this.

2424
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:11,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I'm.

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02:16:11,560 --> 02:16:13,839
Speaker 8: Used to this. This is what black people are supposed

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02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:16,680
Speaker 8: to do. I shouldn't get a standing ovation for driving

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02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,120
Speaker 8: a car made by black people, or wearing clothes made

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02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 8: by black people, speaking languages.

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Speaker 1: And dout to came a hole that thought right there.

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02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:24,480
Speaker 1: If you can stay with a few more minutes, stay

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02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:28,400
Speaker 1: with us, take a short break so folks in the

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02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 1: stations can identify themselves down the line. Family. Just hearing

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Speaker 1: our guests right now. That's doctor Oberdelli and Cambon and

2434
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:37,800
Speaker 1: calling us from Ghana. He's having a black powered conference there,

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02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 1: a Black liberation conference and they also a movie conference

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02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:42,480
Speaker 1: as well. What are your thoughts? You want? You want

2437
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:44,240
Speaker 1: to join this conversation with him and speak to him

2438
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:46,360
Speaker 1: in Ghana and it's just outside of a crowd reach

2439
02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:49,199
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

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02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:52,039
Speaker 1: eight seventy six Gon take your phone calls next and

2441
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:54,360
Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks to staying with us on this

2442
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning with our guests. Come all the way from Ghana.

2443
02:16:56,920 --> 02:17:01,680
Speaker 1: Doctor Obadelli Campon. He moved to Ghana. He speaks tweet.

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02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:05,119
Speaker 1: He's a Ganaian citizen and one of the Oh. First

2445
02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:07,320
Speaker 1: of all, not to come on. They asking me if

2446
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:10,400
Speaker 1: you can mention the website and please repeat and do

2447
02:17:10,480 --> 02:17:14,959
Speaker 1: it slowly. I've got a four or five requests for you. Well, yeah,

2448
02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:17,200
Speaker 1: just do it slowly. If folks are driving, they want

2449
02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:18,720
Speaker 1: to get a pen, so you go get your pen

2450
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:21,800
Speaker 1: and paper red or you get a copy of the podcast.

2451
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:24,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, first do that. Then I'll ask you the

2452
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 1: question if you can repeat that?

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02:17:27,720 --> 02:17:31,440
Speaker 8: Absolutely. So the website, the main website is at bbtwo

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02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 8: me dot com and I'll spell that A B I

2455
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:40,160
Speaker 8: B I t U M I dot com at bbtwo

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02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:43,720
Speaker 8: me dot com. And I'd encourage everybody who's listening right

2457
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:47,000
Speaker 8: now to purchase a ticket for the film festival, for

2458
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:50,560
Speaker 8: the virtual conference and for the main conference, because we

2459
02:17:50,600 --> 02:17:53,680
Speaker 8: are having an impact here on the continent. We are

2460
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 8: what The work that we're doing is what's going to

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02:17:56,320 --> 02:17:58,920
Speaker 8: ensure that when you come here, you're gonna see what

2462
02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:02,480
Speaker 8: you want to see and set us you know, mega

2463
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:05,879
Speaker 8: white billboard about how to leash your skin. That again,

2464
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:07,640
Speaker 8: it has to start with those of us who have

2465
02:18:07,760 --> 02:18:11,880
Speaker 8: since being here and teaching and educating and having an

2466
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:14,800
Speaker 8: impact apart from the mis education that's been going on.

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02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 8: You know, for those who benefit from that miseducation happening

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02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:20,920
Speaker 8: in the first place, there's no surprise that those who

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02:18:21,360 --> 02:18:24,879
Speaker 8: are enriched economically from skin bleaching are the ones who

2470
02:18:24,879 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 8: are gonna, you know, sell those chemicals to you and

2471
02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 8: see that your own skin is bad. Like this isn't

2472
02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:34,200
Speaker 8: rocket science. So again bbtwen me dot com. You can

2473
02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:38,200
Speaker 8: go there a b I b I t u m

2474
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:41,879
Speaker 8: I and again I'll b betwo me translates to black

2475
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:45,280
Speaker 8: power and the tre language of Ghana. And then we

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02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 8: also have the film Festival. That one is coming up

2477
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:50,640
Speaker 8: first this weekend from the twenty eighth to the thirtieth,

2478
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:54,119
Speaker 8: and you can go to film Festival all written together,

2479
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 8: all one where Film Festival dots I'd be befader and

2480
02:18:58,080 --> 02:19:02,840
Speaker 8: I'll sell that out. Ab I b I f A

2481
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:08,520
Speaker 8: h O d I E again A b I b

2482
02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:14,160
Speaker 8: I f A h O d I E dot org.

2483
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 8: So Film Festival dot org. You can check that out.

2484
02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:21,120
Speaker 8: And then also I mentioned that all of these events

2485
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 8: are part of a larger initiative called a Decade of

2486
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:28,240
Speaker 8: Our Repatriations. So if you if you've heard of the

2487
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:30,640
Speaker 8: Year of Return, and some of your listeners may have

2488
02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:33,120
Speaker 8: heard of that. It was an initiative launch out of

2489
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,879
Speaker 8: Ghana for a year. But basically people just took it

2490
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:38,480
Speaker 8: to be here's a year to come and party. Come,

2491
02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 8: I'll come for a week, I'll party. I'll come for

2492
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:44,560
Speaker 8: you know, dirty December and get dirty, and then I'll

2493
02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:46,800
Speaker 8: go back, you know, to the US. So it's just

2494
02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:48,600
Speaker 8: kind of like people saw it just like as a

2495
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:51,879
Speaker 8: tour thing, not a thing that is, Oh, you know what,

2496
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,119
Speaker 8: let me relocate, you know what, Let me get citizenships

2497
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:57,240
Speaker 8: and you know, let me move my family here and

2498
02:19:57,320 --> 02:19:59,560
Speaker 8: let me get married here, let me have children here,

2499
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:02,360
Speaker 8: let me find a job or create a job here.

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02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:04,520
Speaker 8: They just looked at it as you know, a gague

2501
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:07,040
Speaker 8: idea of oh, let me return. Okay, I'm done with

2502
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 8: my return. Now I'm back, you know. In the United

2503
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 8: States of a motor that this is now decade of

2504
02:20:12,879 --> 02:20:17,040
Speaker 8: our repatriation, as I mentioned, has already been endorsed by

2505
02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:19,440
Speaker 8: the Office of the President, the highest office of the

2506
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:22,600
Speaker 8: land through Dash for Affair shout out to Brother kod.

2507
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:27,080
Speaker 8: Has been endorsed by Ghana Tourism Development Company g T

2508
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 8: d C. Shout out to A Benfo Kobe. Men's actually

2509
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:33,280
Speaker 8: the colleagues of NON there at the University of Ghana.

2510
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:36,959
Speaker 8: It has you know, been given a letter of support

2511
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:40,360
Speaker 8: from the Association of Black Psychologists which is based there

2512
02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:44,080
Speaker 8: in the US. Because there's also a psychological healing component

2513
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:49,280
Speaker 8: t repatriation. It's also we have a standing MoU with

2514
02:20:49,440 --> 02:20:53,600
Speaker 8: the u NIA NON of Marcus Garvey's organization, so you

2515
02:20:53,640 --> 02:20:56,280
Speaker 8: know that one is also there. And all of these

2516
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,439
Speaker 8: just go to show that as people come to understand

2517
02:20:59,800 --> 02:21:04,080
Speaker 8: the magnitude that shear magnitude of what this decade means

2518
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:06,760
Speaker 8: is that as people are running away from Trump, they're

2519
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:10,560
Speaker 8: not just running from danger, they're running too safety. You

2520
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,119
Speaker 8: understand that there's a major difference. So you can picture

2521
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:15,320
Speaker 8: an active shooter who's out there and you just run

2522
02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:18,080
Speaker 8: out into an open field with what did you really do? Yeah,

2523
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,480
Speaker 8: you were running from major, but you certainly weren't running

2524
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 8: to safety. So what you can do is now understand

2525
02:21:23,720 --> 02:21:27,640
Speaker 8: that through services like what I survived through repatriate Theighana

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02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:31,240
Speaker 8: dot com. The short URL is the letter are the

2527
02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 8: number two and then GHR twogh dot com, or you

2528
02:21:36,120 --> 02:21:38,000
Speaker 8: can get to it the same way by spelling it

2529
02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:42,240
Speaker 8: all out repatriate too Ghana dot com. That you know,

2530
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:45,040
Speaker 8: this is a service where we've actually and i'd encourage

2531
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:48,200
Speaker 8: everybody on the line now to go and check out

2532
02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:51,320
Speaker 8: the testimonial. These are real life people who we helped

2533
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:54,760
Speaker 8: get their citizenship, help them to purchase vehicles, help them

2534
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:58,560
Speaker 8: to purchase land, help them to buy houses, help them

2535
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:02,280
Speaker 8: to do all of these things in Ghana. And you know,

2536
02:22:02,360 --> 02:22:05,560
Speaker 8: this is going back to the citizenship initiative that actually

2537
02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:08,480
Speaker 8: started out of my office at the Institute of African

2538
02:22:08,480 --> 02:22:11,520
Speaker 8: Studies back in twenty sixteen. We happened to have the

2539
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:15,400
Speaker 8: Executive Secretary to the President who was President Mohammad right

2540
02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:19,039
Speaker 8: at that time, Honorable Inequacy Qussi, who came to the

2541
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:22,800
Speaker 8: meetings that we hosted at African Studies, and from that meeting,

2542
02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:25,680
Speaker 8: we said, you know what, as diasporus, we contribute a

2543
02:22:25,680 --> 02:22:27,800
Speaker 8: lot to Ghana, but we don't have much to show

2544
02:22:27,879 --> 02:22:30,960
Speaker 8: for it what we wanted citizenship. So he went back

2545
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:34,920
Speaker 8: to President Mohamma another sister who's passed away since Macy

2546
02:22:34,959 --> 02:22:38,720
Speaker 8: Howell also wrote a letter and from those major things

2547
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:41,640
Speaker 8: that happened. That's when President Mohammad when he was voted

2548
02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:45,520
Speaker 8: out of office on December seventh of twenty sixteen. By

2549
02:22:45,560 --> 02:22:49,160
Speaker 8: the twenty eighth they had organized a ceremony for us

2550
02:22:49,200 --> 02:22:54,360
Speaker 8: to get our citizenship by presidential mandate through naturalization. Now

2551
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:56,680
Speaker 8: before that you would have you know, one one, you know,

2552
02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:59,600
Speaker 8: this person he gets to hear or that celebrity gets

2553
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:02,440
Speaker 8: it there. But it wasn't what you saw in terms

2554
02:23:02,440 --> 02:23:06,480
Speaker 8: of a presidential mandate for naturalization for a huge group

2555
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:10,039
Speaker 8: like that. From there, Ghana again in twenty nineteen, again

2556
02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:12,720
Speaker 8: in the year of Return, again in twenty twenty two,

2557
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:16,520
Speaker 8: again in twenty twenty four. You know, that was five

2558
02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:18,920
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty four who got it. You know then

2559
02:23:19,360 --> 02:23:22,240
Speaker 8: many of them were repatriot the Ghana class. Matter of fact,

2560
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:25,280
Speaker 8: the oldest person to get citizenship and the youngest person

2561
02:23:25,320 --> 02:23:28,280
Speaker 8: to get citizenship were part of my you know, repatriots

2562
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:31,119
Speaker 8: at Ghana Cohort so these are the things that we're doing.

2563
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:35,320
Speaker 8: And again just the contrast, you know, uh Non of

2564
02:23:35,440 --> 02:23:39,119
Speaker 8: Jamil Alamein, he decided to you know, build community there

2565
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:41,119
Speaker 8: in the West End and Atlanta. I was actually there

2566
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:43,600
Speaker 8: in Atlanta at Moor House at the time that he

2567
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:46,200
Speaker 8: was there, and you know, we were I think I'd

2568
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:49,320
Speaker 8: actually come for a study abroad in Ghana when you know,

2569
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:52,240
Speaker 8: all the things went down for his wrongful arrest and

2570
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:56,680
Speaker 8: so forth. But you know, he was there in their

2571
02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:59,360
Speaker 8: jurisdiction where they can say, you know what, we're gonna

2572
02:23:59,360 --> 02:24:01,520
Speaker 8: send some depth to your house and you know what,

2573
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:03,560
Speaker 8: if things don't go right, we're gonna shoot you. We're

2574
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:06,160
Speaker 8: gonna wound you, we're gonna arrescue, we're gonna trump up

2575
02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:08,640
Speaker 8: some charges on you. That those type of things. Those

2576
02:24:08,680 --> 02:24:11,480
Speaker 8: aren't regular occurrences here Ghana. You don't get, you know,

2577
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:14,200
Speaker 8: so called white deputies come into your house, it's gonna

2578
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:16,320
Speaker 8: serve you with a warrant. You don't get you know,

2579
02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:19,200
Speaker 8: them saying oh, because you said this against us in

2580
02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:22,000
Speaker 8: the sixties and seventies, now we're gonna come and you know,

2581
02:24:22,080 --> 02:24:24,840
Speaker 8: come after you. That's not a regular occurse. And Ghana,

2582
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:26,560
Speaker 8: I'm sure, they would love for it to be, but

2583
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:28,480
Speaker 8: they just don't have the power for that to be

2584
02:24:28,560 --> 02:24:31,240
Speaker 8: the case. You know, hearing Ghana on a regular basis,

2585
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:33,680
Speaker 8: like I'm saying, you know, they could do stopping frisk

2586
02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:36,680
Speaker 8: of thousands of people in New York in any given year,

2587
02:24:37,160 --> 02:24:39,320
Speaker 8: but guess what, they don't have enough so called white

2588
02:24:39,320 --> 02:24:42,600
Speaker 8: police officers to do that here in Ghana. Whacku. Ghana

2589
02:24:42,680 --> 02:24:45,640
Speaker 8: is a black nation, even though some of the inhabitants

2590
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:47,959
Speaker 8: aren't aware of it, as they try to, you know,

2591
02:24:48,040 --> 02:24:51,240
Speaker 8: put on perms and wigs and whatever, and we're closed

2592
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:54,160
Speaker 8: by you know, dead white people. Well, guess what, there

2593
02:24:54,200 --> 02:24:56,760
Speaker 8: are some of us who are actually making in roads,

2594
02:24:56,959 --> 02:25:00,280
Speaker 8: for making waves and are making changes, and we can

2595
02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:03,640
Speaker 8: see the tangible results. The citizenship program that you see

2596
02:25:03,640 --> 02:25:06,959
Speaker 8: in Ghana is a result directly of me being a

2597
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:09,920
Speaker 8: professor at the Institute of African Studies. If not for

2598
02:25:10,040 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 8: having that space and having the Executive secretary come to

2599
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:16,640
Speaker 8: that space, you wouldn't see citizenship in twenty sixteen, or

2600
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:19,080
Speaker 8: in twenty nineteen, or in twenty twenty two, or in

2601
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,920
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four or anything else that's happening. And then

2602
02:25:21,959 --> 02:25:25,080
Speaker 8: you wouldn't see the other states around, like Sierra Leone

2603
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 8: and Benin and Guinea Bisal, they wouldn't be doing it either.

2604
02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:30,960
Speaker 8: But again they saw, oh, you know what, looks like

2605
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:34,080
Speaker 8: Ghana was successful with that. Let's try to do something similar.

2606
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:37,560
Speaker 8: So again, by us being here on the ground, by

2607
02:25:37,640 --> 02:25:42,160
Speaker 8: us repatriating, we can actually create situations where somebody who

2608
02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:45,439
Speaker 8: is like amount of Jamil Alamin doesn't have to languish

2609
02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:48,240
Speaker 8: in prison. In his last days. You know, he ended

2610
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:51,840
Speaker 8: up suffering from maalumma, a very aggressive form of cancer.

2611
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 8: And you know this, this is horrible, you understand, and

2612
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:58,520
Speaker 8: that need not be the case. But again, through the

2613
02:25:58,600 --> 02:26:01,760
Speaker 8: pathways that we open, you know, some people aren't aware

2614
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:04,280
Speaker 8: that they can live in other places. Some people haven't

2615
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:06,840
Speaker 8: experienced anything other than living in the United next of

2616
02:26:06,920 --> 02:26:09,120
Speaker 8: a murderer. They think it's normal for their heart to

2617
02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:11,840
Speaker 8: jump when a police car goes behind them. They think

2618
02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:14,480
Speaker 8: it's normal to go around in a store and look

2619
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:17,400
Speaker 8: over their shoulder to see if somebody is following behind them. No,

2620
02:26:17,560 --> 02:26:20,160
Speaker 8: those things are not normal. Those are the most abnormal

2621
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:22,520
Speaker 8: things that you can imagine. You're just used to her.

2622
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:27,160
Speaker 8: So guess what, because we are carving out those pathways that,

2623
02:26:27,320 --> 02:26:30,520
Speaker 8: you know, the next generations and even this generation can

2624
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 8: come here and have a different light. You can come here.

2625
02:26:33,440 --> 02:26:35,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell me for a second, doctor Campbell, let

2626
02:26:35,440 --> 02:26:36,879
Speaker 1: me jump me here for a second. And ten to

2627
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:40,400
Speaker 1: our family just joining us. That's that doctor, doctor Olberdally

2628
02:26:40,480 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 1: and Camba and he's calling us from Ghana. They're having

2629
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:46,280
Speaker 1: a Black Black Liberation conference coming up later. Also, they're

2630
02:26:46,320 --> 02:26:51,160
Speaker 1: having a movie screening, a filmingro fessional. If you will,

2631
02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:52,920
Speaker 1: let me get that's straight. But I gotta ask you

2632
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:56,000
Speaker 1: this question, dont comba. What is the nature mistake you

2633
02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:59,640
Speaker 1: think that the Americans may make when they move to Ghana?

2634
02:26:59,720 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 1: What are some of the footsteps? So what are some

2635
02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:03,160
Speaker 1: of the things they should not do?

2636
02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:07,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, the biggest mistake that they make, and I'll say

2637
02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:11,120
Speaker 8: I'm reservedly without question, is trying to do it without

2638
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:14,920
Speaker 8: repatriot to Ghana. Like I've been here for seventeen years.

2639
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:18,120
Speaker 8: I'm probably one of the most successful repatriots that you

2640
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:20,720
Speaker 8: can imagine in terms of you know, being a professor

2641
02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:22,880
Speaker 8: at the university, of being in school as a traditional

2642
02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:25,200
Speaker 8: rule and so forth. You know, you've got people who

2643
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:26,920
Speaker 8: are like, you know what, let me just figure it out.

2644
02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:30,040
Speaker 8: And the analogy I give is, let's picture somebody from

2645
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:33,800
Speaker 8: backwaters Mississippi somewhere it's like the Mississippi. But let's say

2646
02:27:34,040 --> 02:27:36,400
Speaker 8: he goes up to the big city, you know, New York,

2647
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:39,959
Speaker 8: wearing his suspenders and overalls and you know, with a

2648
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 8: straw hat. Somebody's gonna be like, hey, this guy looks

2649
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:45,600
Speaker 8: like a mark to me. But you know, people come

2650
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:47,800
Speaker 8: to Ghana and they don't know the language, they don't

2651
02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:50,880
Speaker 8: know the culture, they don't know directions that they don't

2652
02:27:50,920 --> 02:27:52,920
Speaker 8: know anything about it, and they're like, you know what,

2653
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:55,320
Speaker 8: let me figure this out. Or they'll be like, Hey,

2654
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:58,320
Speaker 8: this guy who's driving uber, I'm gonna make him be

2655
02:27:58,440 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 8: my lawyer, my accounted, he's gonna be my best friend,

2656
02:28:02,840 --> 02:28:04,920
Speaker 8: he's gonna be my hook up for a wife. And

2657
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:06,840
Speaker 8: it's like, you know what, this guy has no idea

2658
02:28:06,959 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 8: what he's doing, but he's just gonna, you know, see

2659
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,120
Speaker 8: what he can get and then you know, turn around

2660
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:15,800
Speaker 8: and you know, move in another direction. So again, the

2661
02:28:15,879 --> 02:28:18,800
Speaker 8: biggest mistake that people make is like, look at this,

2662
02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:21,520
Speaker 8: We've been endorsed by the Office of the President, Like

2663
02:28:21,560 --> 02:28:24,600
Speaker 8: how much more legitimacy can you get? And you know,

2664
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:26,840
Speaker 8: I see other people like we started this back in

2665
02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:29,640
Speaker 8: twenty sixteen, and I see people in the last year

2666
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:32,280
Speaker 8: or two. They get online, they start a YouTube channel

2667
02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:35,920
Speaker 8: and say, hey, I'm helping with repatriation. I'll tell you

2668
02:28:35,959 --> 02:28:38,040
Speaker 8: anybody who tells you that, ask them when did you

2669
02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:40,560
Speaker 8: yourself repatriot? If they tell you I've been here for

2670
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:43,960
Speaker 8: a year, we'll keep keep it moving, right. If they

2671
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:47,240
Speaker 8: tell you I've been here for two years, three years, Hey, man,

2672
02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:49,119
Speaker 8: keep it moving. You got people who you know, they

2673
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:52,760
Speaker 8: themselves don't have any firm you know, footing and Ghana,

2674
02:28:53,080 --> 02:28:55,840
Speaker 8: and they themselves don't have any kind of success. So

2675
02:28:56,040 --> 02:28:59,200
Speaker 8: you know, there's a proverb in p and that says

2676
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,800
Speaker 8: open my on to my and it translates to if

2677
02:29:02,879 --> 02:29:05,040
Speaker 8: naked man said that he's going to give you a claw,

2678
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:08,560
Speaker 8: listen to his name. That means that this person themselves

2679
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:11,480
Speaker 8: are not successful. They're not going to help you be successful.

2680
02:29:11,560 --> 02:29:14,600
Speaker 8: So you know, again, I'm doing pretty well for myself

2681
02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:15,320
Speaker 8: here in Ghana.

2682
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:16,480
Speaker 11: And yeah, let.

2683
02:29:16,360 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 8: Me another question too, well in Ghana.

2684
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me jump me again here, doc, how long

2685
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 1: did it take you to assimilate when you moved to Ghana.

2686
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 1: How long did it take for you to like, this

2687
02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:29,240
Speaker 1: is it. This is where I'm going to stay, this

2688
02:29:29,680 --> 02:29:32,840
Speaker 1: plant my flags, to raise my family, and I'm moving

2689
02:29:32,920 --> 02:29:35,119
Speaker 1: coming back to the States. How long did you when

2690
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:38,000
Speaker 1: did you come to that realization once you moved to.

2691
02:29:37,959 --> 02:29:42,320
Speaker 8: Ghan That came to that realization before I moved to Kinda.

2692
02:29:42,800 --> 02:29:45,480
Speaker 8: So you know, my mother brought me on the Sankofi journey.

2693
02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:47,840
Speaker 8: I meted that earlier in nineteen ninety eight, and I

2694
02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:50,520
Speaker 8: stayed for two weeks. She brought me again in nineteen

2695
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:54,000
Speaker 8: ninety nine. By that time, I was her code, you know, God,

2696
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:57,600
Speaker 8: and I was teaching she and so forth, and again

2697
02:29:57,640 --> 02:29:59,240
Speaker 8: I stayed for two weeks. Then I did a year

2698
02:29:59,360 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 8: study of broad at the University of Ghana, and that

2699
02:30:02,720 --> 02:30:06,280
Speaker 8: was something that actually charted a course for me that

2700
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:08,760
Speaker 8: I would come back to because I decided to do

2701
02:30:08,879 --> 02:30:12,280
Speaker 8: my PhD in linguistics on the basis of having you know,

2702
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:16,200
Speaker 8: done study abroad, been part of the linguistics department, you know,

2703
02:30:16,320 --> 02:30:19,920
Speaker 8: taking class with native speakers, going into poetry and the

2704
02:30:19,959 --> 02:30:24,160
Speaker 8: Acan language, pros in the Acan language novel, you know,

2705
02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:26,959
Speaker 8: writing essays, all these types of things. So you know,

2706
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:28,960
Speaker 8: that was two thousand. I was here for an entire

2707
02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:31,640
Speaker 8: academic year, and in that year, my mother was a

2708
02:30:31,760 --> 02:30:34,840
Speaker 8: president of the Association of Black Psychologists and she brought

2709
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:37,880
Speaker 8: over five hundred psychologists when they went back. I stayed

2710
02:30:37,879 --> 02:30:40,360
Speaker 8: for that academic year when I was on a full

2711
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:43,840
Speaker 8: scholarship at Morehouse right, that was my junior year. From there,

2712
02:30:43,879 --> 02:30:45,600
Speaker 8: when I went back for a senior year, I was

2713
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:48,440
Speaker 8: still doing my meda Neta and my medio metural teacher

2714
02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:52,080
Speaker 8: Professor Mario Batti, the head of AZKAC, the Association for

2715
02:30:52,120 --> 02:30:56,000
Speaker 8: the Study of Classical accent Civilizations. She saw all these

2716
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:58,920
Speaker 8: connections I was making between Meta Netcha and accoonty and said, no, what,

2717
02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:01,360
Speaker 8: you got to go to grad school for this. So

2718
02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:04,519
Speaker 8: I went on to get two master's degrees, one in linguistics,

2719
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:07,560
Speaker 8: one in African Languages in literature, and then I came

2720
02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:10,640
Speaker 8: to the University of Ghana to do my PhD. When

2721
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:13,560
Speaker 8: I completed, I won the Vice Chancellors Award for the

2722
02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:17,360
Speaker 8: Best PhD Thesis in the Humanities for my research on

2723
02:31:17,440 --> 02:31:21,080
Speaker 8: the Acon language, three major dialects of the Acon language.

2724
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:23,959
Speaker 8: Since then, I've won two out of the three Provost

2725
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:27,800
Speaker 8: Publications Award for the Best Publication in the Humanities. The

2726
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:31,960
Speaker 8: pan African Leadership Award through Polly. That's the Non Equiment

2727
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:36,080
Speaker 8: Trouma Pan African Leadership Award that was presented actually by

2728
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:40,039
Speaker 8: Sambia and Kruma his daughter in the Marcus mozaah Garviy

2729
02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:43,440
Speaker 8: Foundation Award. So again, if somebody says, oh, I'm going

2730
02:31:43,480 --> 02:31:46,080
Speaker 8: to help you repatriate, you need to see how successful

2731
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:49,240
Speaker 8: that person is in their own repatriation before you take

2732
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:51,600
Speaker 8: it up, because again, you know, the proof is in

2733
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 8: the pudding. Right, I'm here, you know, I have my houses,

2734
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,640
Speaker 8: fourteen bedrooms. My entire family is here. My mother is here,

2735
02:32:00,080 --> 02:32:04,080
Speaker 8: my father repatriot before he transitioned. My wife is here.

2736
02:32:04,520 --> 02:32:07,160
Speaker 8: You know, I have five children. And we use it

2737
02:32:07,280 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 8: not just as a personal home but as a conference

2738
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:14,440
Speaker 8: facility and festival grounds every year. And this is our

2739
02:32:14,480 --> 02:32:16,640
Speaker 8: third year from the f BB to Me Conference and

2740
02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:20,320
Speaker 8: the FBB Fier Festival. So that's for black power, for

2741
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:25,279
Speaker 8: Black liberation. Our theme is what black power is, demonstration

2742
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:29,039
Speaker 8: over conversation, be about what you say that you're about,

2743
02:32:29,360 --> 02:32:31,480
Speaker 8: and that's what we need. More like, this is a

2744
02:32:31,560 --> 02:32:34,120
Speaker 8: it's a change, it's a it's a ship. It's a

2745
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,560
Speaker 8: change in errors from oh let me go out and

2746
02:32:36,560 --> 02:32:38,600
Speaker 8: give a lecture about what everybody else needs to be

2747
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:41,080
Speaker 8: doing to know. No, no, let me not even give

2748
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:43,920
Speaker 8: a lection. Let me just do it. Right after I

2749
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:45,880
Speaker 8: do it and I have proof of concept, I may

2750
02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:48,680
Speaker 8: tell you about it, but you know the only person

2751
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:51,480
Speaker 8: who needs to be speaking is the one who has

2752
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:54,640
Speaker 8: actually done it, who is actually living it. And we

2753
02:32:54,760 --> 02:32:56,680
Speaker 8: have to get away from what my father would call

2754
02:32:57,120 --> 02:33:01,680
Speaker 8: contrary diiction. In call a contradiction contrary addiction, your ad diction,

2755
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:05,480
Speaker 8: what you say runs contrary to your behavior, and there's

2756
02:33:05,600 --> 02:33:08,360
Speaker 8: enough of that. We're not moving anywhere with that. The

2757
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:10,560
Speaker 8: only way we're going to get liberated, and as my

2758
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:13,560
Speaker 8: father's non a come out combound would say, is on

2759
02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:22,520
Speaker 8: our own terms. And terms is a acronym for time, energy, resources, money, slash, materials,

2760
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 8: and spirit. So if we want black liberation, which is

2761
02:33:25,480 --> 02:33:28,080
Speaker 8: more responsibility, it's not just go out and do whatever

2762
02:33:28,120 --> 02:33:30,879
Speaker 8: I want. It means more responsibility. If we actually want

2763
02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:34,760
Speaker 8: bier black liberation, we're only going to get it on

2764
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 8: our own terms, and that means more of our time

2765
02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:40,480
Speaker 8: is going towards black liberation than our time is going

2766
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:42,920
Speaker 8: to working a nine to five job. That means more

2767
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:45,879
Speaker 8: of our energy is going towards black liberation than it

2768
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:48,840
Speaker 8: is going for working for whatever cracker on Wall Street.

2769
02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:51,720
Speaker 8: That means more of our resources, more of our money,

2770
02:33:51,959 --> 02:33:54,600
Speaker 8: and more of our spirit is going to build the

2771
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:58,160
Speaker 8: land of black people rather than right.

2772
02:33:58,040 --> 02:34:00,040
Speaker 1: Then, we're got to take another short break here, I

2773
02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:02,080
Speaker 1: let you finish up and when we get back seventeen

2774
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:04,240
Speaker 1: minutes af the top of our family. Just checking in

2775
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:07,240
Speaker 1: with us. Doctor OBERDEALI Comebone is joining us from a Crow,

2776
02:34:07,360 --> 02:34:09,840
Speaker 1: Ghana this morning giving us an update on his Black

2777
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Bahoa Conference. Black Liberation Conference is taking place next month

2778
02:34:13,840 --> 02:34:15,560
Speaker 1: in Ghana. What are your thoughts? You can join us

2779
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

2780
02:34:18,160 --> 02:34:20,520
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your calls next and Grant

2781
02:34:20,600 --> 02:34:22,720
Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this Tuesday,

2782
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:24,920
Speaker 1: money of our guest all the way from Acrow, Ghana.

2783
02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:28,720
Speaker 1: Speaking with doctor Obadelli Cambon. You've heard his sister in

2784
02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:30,800
Speaker 1: the TAKEI when she was in the States a few

2785
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:33,240
Speaker 1: a few, I guess a few months now and she

2786
02:34:33,320 --> 02:34:35,240
Speaker 1: stopped by it before she went back to Ghana. His

2787
02:34:35,320 --> 02:34:39,200
Speaker 1: ain't Ghana. He teaches the Ghanaians their language fast. The

2788
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:42,000
Speaker 1: question that's fascinating to me. You're teaching you as an

2789
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:46,040
Speaker 1: American teaching the Ghanaians had their language. How did that

2790
02:34:46,120 --> 02:34:48,480
Speaker 1: go over? Do they know but you're so you so

2791
02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:52,000
Speaker 1: you know Ghanaian yourself. Do they know that you're you're

2792
02:34:52,280 --> 02:34:55,080
Speaker 1: you're an American or I can say you're an Americans,

2793
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:58,120
Speaker 1: you're a Ghanaian, But do they know the American roots?

2794
02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:01,200
Speaker 1: And when you teaching them their language? How does that go? Uh?

2795
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:02,240
Speaker 13: Yeah?

2796
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:05,600
Speaker 8: So definitely not an American an anti American ever since birth,

2797
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:07,720
Speaker 8: Like I've never stood up for a pledge of allegiance

2798
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:11,440
Speaker 8: or saying the national anthem. That was long before Colin Kipernick.

2799
02:35:11,520 --> 02:35:14,720
Speaker 8: That was in elementary school. But yeah, so you know,

2800
02:35:14,840 --> 02:35:17,320
Speaker 8: sometimes they'll ask me, you know, whether I you know,

2801
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:20,000
Speaker 8: whether I'm born in Ghana or you know, so forth,

2802
02:35:21,280 --> 02:35:24,480
Speaker 8: and you know, it's kind of a trip because you know,

2803
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:27,040
Speaker 8: here in Ghana there's an English department at the University

2804
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:30,360
Speaker 8: of Ghana. You have Ghanan's for teaching English, and you

2805
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:33,119
Speaker 8: know it quit that you know, if Ghanams can teach English,

2806
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:36,199
Speaker 8: definitely somebody born in the United States or a murder

2807
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:39,120
Speaker 8: can teach t especially you know when I've learned it

2808
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:41,720
Speaker 8: up to the point where I am like, this is

2809
02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:46,360
Speaker 8: a good what twenty seven years in countings that I've

2810
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:51,039
Speaker 8: been immersed in the language, and you know, if there

2811
02:35:51,040 --> 02:35:53,760
Speaker 8: are a lot of things that the average Ghanan doesn't know.

2812
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:58,040
Speaker 8: And I just had a conversation. We had International Mother

2813
02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:01,160
Speaker 8: Tongue Day, not this past not just Monday, but the

2814
02:36:01,200 --> 02:36:04,680
Speaker 8: Monday before, and I was asked to speak on a panel.

2815
02:36:05,000 --> 02:36:07,880
Speaker 8: And I'll say, you know, for me, when I started

2816
02:36:07,959 --> 02:36:10,760
Speaker 8: learning the language, I was like, you know, any child

2817
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:14,360
Speaker 8: should learn some you know, certain things like shapes, like numbers,

2818
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:17,680
Speaker 8: like colors and so forth, because most people just get it,

2819
02:36:17,800 --> 02:36:21,080
Speaker 8: you know, by you know, being out in society and

2820
02:36:21,080 --> 02:36:23,760
Speaker 8: so forth. You have native speakers of you know, the

2821
02:36:23,840 --> 02:36:26,000
Speaker 8: languages who don't even know how to count to ten

2822
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:28,600
Speaker 8: in their own language. And now they could do other things,

2823
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:31,680
Speaker 8: but because they're so used to switching to English when

2824
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:36,039
Speaker 8: they're doing their monetary transactions and when they're doing their calculations,

2825
02:36:36,480 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 8: that when you get past five, people start struggling, right,

2826
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:42,600
Speaker 8: you know, in terms of colors. I remember I was

2827
02:36:42,600 --> 02:36:44,640
Speaker 8: in a room for it was actually at a conference

2828
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:47,680
Speaker 8: School of languages conference, and I was in a room

2829
02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:50,080
Speaker 8: with no less than like a good four hundred people,

2830
02:36:50,440 --> 02:36:54,440
Speaker 8: most of them were language professors, wizards, profectors, and they asked,

2831
02:36:54,480 --> 02:36:56,080
Speaker 8: you know, how many of you even know the word

2832
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:58,440
Speaker 8: for brown? And I was the only one who raised

2833
02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:01,760
Speaker 8: my hand, like everybody in the auditor miss brown, but

2834
02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:04,040
Speaker 8: they didn't know the word for brown. So like I

2835
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:07,240
Speaker 8: was learning it comprehensively in terms of I need to

2836
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:09,840
Speaker 8: know every single thing. And one thing that helped is

2837
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:14,160
Speaker 8: my PhD supervisor asked me to read the entire dictionary

2838
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:17,000
Speaker 8: from cover to cover, page for page, and actually took

2839
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:19,880
Speaker 8: up that challenge. So there, you know, terms like matter

2840
02:37:19,879 --> 02:37:23,320
Speaker 8: of fact. About a week ago, I was in the

2841
02:37:23,360 --> 02:37:26,320
Speaker 8: office of a CEO of one of the major radio

2842
02:37:26,360 --> 02:37:29,480
Speaker 8: and television firms here in Ghana and he asked, you know,

2843
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:34,920
Speaker 8: what's the word for cell phone? A mobile phonephone? And

2844
02:37:34,959 --> 02:37:38,720
Speaker 8: he was just dumb struck, like and I'm like, you know,

2845
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:42,279
Speaker 8: this is easy, especially if you come to archaic terms,

2846
02:37:42,320 --> 02:37:46,039
Speaker 8: the technical terms, the scientific terms, because I hate the

2847
02:37:46,080 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 8: English language, those are the main things that I will

2848
02:37:48,320 --> 02:37:50,200
Speaker 8: come across and I'll be like, I don't want to

2849
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:53,560
Speaker 8: say this, So that means I'm, you know, going directly

2850
02:37:53,600 --> 02:37:55,880
Speaker 8: for the words that exist in our own languages. So

2851
02:37:55,920 --> 02:38:00,440
Speaker 8: that's across p your I.

2852
02:38:00,440 --> 02:38:02,600
Speaker 1: Just got a tweetter wanted to know that there's a

2853
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:06,879
Speaker 1: rumors making the rounds that Ghana is leaving echo Osh

2854
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,360
Speaker 1: and joining up with the Bikino Folesi and the rest

2855
02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:12,160
Speaker 1: of the Sahale nations. He says, that's on the internet.

2856
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:13,320
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to that?

2857
02:38:14,959 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 8: So I haven't gotten any official notice. So there are

2858
02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:20,199
Speaker 8: a lot of urban legends in Ghana. Me as a professor,

2859
02:38:20,280 --> 02:38:23,120
Speaker 8: I can't just go and start saying stuff on the

2860
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:27,199
Speaker 8: airways that may just be a rumor. So if, if,

2861
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:30,160
Speaker 8: and when the government makes any type of official announcement,

2862
02:38:30,560 --> 02:38:33,520
Speaker 8: it will be known. You know, we get direct announcements

2863
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:36,760
Speaker 8: from gasper affairs officers, the president and some of the

2864
02:38:36,800 --> 02:38:40,200
Speaker 8: other agencies. So I haven't seen anything official on that.

2865
02:38:40,760 --> 02:38:43,920
Speaker 8: Until the government issue is just such a directive, I

2866
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:47,160
Speaker 8: would treat any and all, you know, rumors like that

2867
02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:49,520
Speaker 8: as just that, nothing but rumors.

2868
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:52,720
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for clearing that up for us.

2869
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:55,200
Speaker 1: But but yeah, we've got about a couple of minutes more.

2870
02:38:55,280 --> 02:38:57,959
Speaker 1: But you went to Bikino Fossil, What was that? Like?

2871
02:38:58,400 --> 02:39:01,880
Speaker 8: I did, So my first time going to Burkina Faso

2872
02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:03,879
Speaker 8: was twenty five years ago, I wanted to go to

2873
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:06,959
Speaker 8: meet the Dogun people in Mali, so we went to

2874
02:39:08,200 --> 02:39:12,240
Speaker 8: you know Waka Do Google but Jlaso Bamfara. But more

2875
02:39:12,320 --> 02:39:15,360
Speaker 8: recently so that was under blaze of power, so as

2876
02:39:15,440 --> 02:39:18,200
Speaker 8: in the year two thousand, going to two thousand and one.

2877
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:21,520
Speaker 8: More recently, I got a chance to you know, be

2878
02:39:21,640 --> 02:39:25,440
Speaker 8: part of a speech that was given by President Ibrahim Chare.

2879
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:29,480
Speaker 8: I got a chance to, like I said, get a

2880
02:39:29,480 --> 02:39:32,840
Speaker 8: actually two phones that are made in Burkina Faso. I

2881
02:39:32,879 --> 02:39:35,920
Speaker 8: got a chance to go to the Etahwa Electric Vehicle factory.

2882
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:40,840
Speaker 8: There's also etah Wah that does solar panels and solar

2883
02:39:40,920 --> 02:39:43,640
Speaker 8: lights that are street lights. So you know, I got

2884
02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:45,400
Speaker 8: a chance to do that. And then there's also an

2885
02:39:45,480 --> 02:39:50,480
Speaker 8: organization there called two Hours for Us two Hours for Kimmt,

2886
02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:55,120
Speaker 8: and you know, they're educating people about classical Kimmicks. You'll

2887
02:39:55,160 --> 02:39:57,520
Speaker 8: find that a lot of the Francophone countries, because of

2888
02:39:57,560 --> 02:40:01,560
Speaker 8: the works of the joke, they are light years ahead

2889
02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:04,480
Speaker 8: of some of the so called Anglophone countries in terms

2890
02:40:04,480 --> 02:40:08,160
Speaker 8: of knowing about you know, classical Awe story, in terms

2891
02:40:08,240 --> 02:40:10,720
Speaker 8: of you know, these types of things. So it was

2892
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:12,680
Speaker 8: really nice to get a chance to interact with the

2893
02:40:12,720 --> 02:40:15,880
Speaker 8: people who have you know, social organizations or sister of

2894
02:40:15,959 --> 02:40:19,920
Speaker 8: mine who is actually from the Congo, she was able

2895
02:40:19,959 --> 02:40:24,640
Speaker 8: to link up with a dou Lah organization, midwiffery organization

2896
02:40:25,240 --> 02:40:27,440
Speaker 8: and actually deliver babies while she was there. She said

2897
02:40:27,440 --> 02:40:30,600
Speaker 8: they had delivered so many babies for night that she

2898
02:40:30,760 --> 02:40:34,680
Speaker 8: was just all strong, how prolific the people of Burkina are.

2899
02:40:35,040 --> 02:40:36,560
Speaker 8: And I was like, there we go where some of

2900
02:40:36,600 --> 02:40:40,640
Speaker 8: these you know, non black countries have declining birth rate.

2901
02:40:41,040 --> 02:40:43,800
Speaker 8: Burkina Fasso does not have that problem. There's a boom

2902
02:40:44,200 --> 02:40:46,640
Speaker 8: in babies. It was something like, you know, sixteen babies

2903
02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:49,520
Speaker 8: came through within thirty minutes. It was just like amazing.

2904
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:52,960
Speaker 8: So you know, when I'm in Burkina Faso. Another thing

2905
02:40:53,200 --> 02:40:56,080
Speaker 8: that President Trowi said in his speech is that Burkina

2906
02:40:56,120 --> 02:40:59,240
Speaker 8: Fosso is under construction. Now I want everyone to do

2907
02:40:59,320 --> 02:41:04,720
Speaker 8: a search for Ibrahim Trarey Mural m u r Al.

2908
02:41:05,320 --> 02:41:08,320
Speaker 8: This is a piece of artwork in so far, you know,

2909
02:41:08,600 --> 02:41:11,840
Speaker 8: Decade of our Repatriation has a utet centel and it's

2910
02:41:11,879 --> 02:41:14,520
Speaker 8: put out a couple of videos. One has something around

2911
02:41:14,840 --> 02:41:17,640
Speaker 8: eighty thousand views. Another one is around I think sixty

2912
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:21,279
Speaker 8: thousand views the short version and the long version respectively.

2913
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:24,920
Speaker 8: But what we're doing is that we are presenting a

2914
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:29,039
Speaker 8: huge mural fifteen feet by eight feet to President Ibrahim

2915
02:41:29,080 --> 02:41:32,160
Speaker 8: Trarey as part of our delegation that's going to be

2916
02:41:32,200 --> 02:41:35,520
Speaker 8: going from December fifteenth of the eighteenth and that's again

2917
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:39,760
Speaker 8: part of the Sanko far journey going between Ghana and

2918
02:41:39,800 --> 02:41:43,039
Speaker 8: Burkina Faso this year. Most years we do Ghana, Togo

2919
02:41:43,080 --> 02:41:46,199
Speaker 8: and Benin this year we're doing Ghana and Burkina Faso.

2920
02:41:46,879 --> 02:41:50,080
Speaker 8: And you know, we're actually in conversation with the Ministry

2921
02:41:50,120 --> 02:41:55,040
Speaker 8: of Foreign Affairs there with the Special advasa on that

2922
02:41:55,240 --> 02:41:58,000
Speaker 8: for a mobilization there. In order to make that happen.

2923
02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:01,959
Speaker 8: We're presenting him with an award dfbbtween the conference and Ghana,

2924
02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:04,920
Speaker 8: and then we're transporting this huge mural and you can

2925
02:42:04,959 --> 02:42:08,400
Speaker 8: actually see not just the mock up that we did

2926
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:11,280
Speaker 8: of it, so you can actually see the work that's

2927
02:42:11,320 --> 02:42:14,640
Speaker 8: already commenced on the mural. And again this is life size,

2928
02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:18,000
Speaker 8: you know, fifteen feet wide, about eight feet tall, so

2929
02:42:18,040 --> 02:42:22,400
Speaker 8: it shows President Ibrahim Tarre at about six feet or so,

2930
02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:25,200
Speaker 8: and then it shows all of the grand sisters who

2931
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:27,560
Speaker 8: are armed. Who happens back. So if you get a

2932
02:42:27,640 --> 02:42:30,960
Speaker 8: chance to see that animation, it was done. The mock

2933
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:33,640
Speaker 8: up was done with Ai and it shows you know,

2934
02:42:33,760 --> 02:42:37,600
Speaker 8: Nana Harriet Tubman who's armed and has President Ibrahim tari

2935
02:42:37,720 --> 02:42:41,080
Speaker 8: Is back. It shows Nana Queen and Zinga, Nna Jean

2936
02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:44,640
Speaker 8: Jacques Dessaline, It shows Nona Marcus Garvey. It shows not

2937
02:42:44,760 --> 02:42:47,400
Speaker 8: a Di don Key Mati, it shows not a milk

2938
02:42:47,480 --> 02:42:51,320
Speaker 8: Awker brawl. It shows Baba Omal Malcolm X. It shows

2939
02:42:51,400 --> 02:42:54,080
Speaker 8: you know, all of these grand ssters who are all

2940
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:57,600
Speaker 8: armed and who have President Abraham tari Is back. So

2941
02:42:57,879 --> 02:43:01,640
Speaker 8: this is a bbtween me initiative that we're doing, and

2942
02:43:01,800 --> 02:43:04,560
Speaker 8: really it's gonna be I've never heard of anybody doing

2943
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:07,560
Speaker 8: anything like this for any sitting president you know, of

2944
02:43:07,560 --> 02:43:10,680
Speaker 8: a black Land or anywhere else. But we were inspired

2945
02:43:10,720 --> 02:43:14,240
Speaker 8: by our own Grandcester to do something like this. And

2946
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:17,120
Speaker 8: what we're doing is anybody who makes our contribution to

2947
02:43:17,160 --> 02:43:20,240
Speaker 8: the Mural Project will use that to cover We'll cause

2948
02:43:20,360 --> 02:43:23,240
Speaker 8: the Muro project and the transport, but anything that goes

2949
02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:26,080
Speaker 8: beyond that. What we're gonna do is we're gonna contribute

2950
02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:29,680
Speaker 8: that we're gonna donate that directly into the Patriotic Fund

2951
02:43:29,720 --> 02:43:32,039
Speaker 8: of Working off oself. This is what they're using to

2952
02:43:32,040 --> 02:43:35,879
Speaker 8: build the sidewalk. This is what they're doing for the roads.

2953
02:43:35,879 --> 02:43:38,200
Speaker 8: This is what they're putting together for all of these

2954
02:43:38,200 --> 02:43:41,880
Speaker 8: public work that you see twenty four seven. If you're walking,

2955
02:43:41,879 --> 02:43:45,440
Speaker 8: you'll see people who are putting down blocks for the sidewalks, right,

2956
02:43:45,520 --> 02:43:48,080
Speaker 8: You'll see people who are just doing all types of

2957
02:43:48,200 --> 02:43:50,879
Speaker 8: you know, tree planting initiatives and all of that is

2958
02:43:50,920 --> 02:43:55,200
Speaker 8: coming from the Patriotic Fund. And then also they have

2959
02:43:55,240 --> 02:43:58,640
Speaker 8: an initiative they are called spossor Mabu, which is you know,

2960
02:43:58,720 --> 02:44:02,360
Speaker 8: to construct the build the homeland. So you know, these

2961
02:44:02,360 --> 02:44:04,720
Speaker 8: are the things that we're doing. It's not enough for

2962
02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:06,600
Speaker 8: us to you know, class and say, oh we love

2963
02:44:06,680 --> 02:44:09,160
Speaker 8: President Ibrahim Tarre. Oh let me go look at it

2964
02:44:09,160 --> 02:44:12,680
Speaker 8: another YouTube video. Hey, if you're about it, be about it.

2965
02:44:12,760 --> 02:44:15,240
Speaker 8: You know, put your money where your mouth is. Support

2966
02:44:15,280 --> 02:44:19,080
Speaker 8: the MUA project, support for Keina Fassul, to the Patriotic Fund.

2967
02:44:19,520 --> 02:44:22,360
Speaker 8: We got you know the details for that fund when

2968
02:44:22,400 --> 02:44:26,360
Speaker 8: we were there. Another brother when I was there in August, uh,

2969
02:44:26,480 --> 02:44:29,840
Speaker 8: you know, facilitated some of the meetings. That's our African

2970
02:44:29,920 --> 02:44:34,160
Speaker 8: dashtball one twenty six plus. Brother y'all facilitated the meetings

2971
02:44:34,160 --> 02:44:37,080
Speaker 8: with the Special Advisor to the President, with the Minister

2972
02:44:37,240 --> 02:44:41,560
Speaker 8: of Foreign Affairs, and just more recently being there and

2973
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:45,000
Speaker 8: getting a chance to actually be in the audience with

2974
02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:48,720
Speaker 8: President Ibrahim Tahre himself, to hear him speak, to be

2975
02:44:48,840 --> 02:44:51,320
Speaker 8: there with my mother, to be there with my wife

2976
02:44:51,400 --> 02:44:54,280
Speaker 8: and friends of the family. My oldest daughter said, you know,

2977
02:44:54,280 --> 02:44:57,199
Speaker 8: it's very profound because you'll be put into the mind

2978
02:44:57,200 --> 02:44:59,440
Speaker 8: of what it meant, what it may have been like.

2979
02:45:00,080 --> 02:45:04,040
Speaker 8: You see President Thomas van Kara, right, Imagine being there

2980
02:45:04,080 --> 02:45:06,200
Speaker 8: and some people don't have to imagine because he came

2981
02:45:06,240 --> 02:45:08,840
Speaker 8: to Harlem. Some people were there, you know, in person.

2982
02:45:09,320 --> 02:45:13,199
Speaker 8: But imagine being part of the revolution. Imagine being there

2983
02:45:13,240 --> 02:45:16,240
Speaker 8: and you're buying whatever it is, mango slices or you're

2984
02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:19,000
Speaker 8: buying a phone or whatever you're doing that you're actually

2985
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:22,680
Speaker 8: supporting this revolution or putting your money where your mouth

2986
02:45:22,800 --> 02:45:24,840
Speaker 8: is and what I say, put your money where your

2987
02:45:24,840 --> 02:45:27,680
Speaker 8: liberation is right, and that's what it's all about. So

2988
02:45:28,280 --> 02:45:30,520
Speaker 8: I've dropped quite a lot on you. You have the

2989
02:45:30,520 --> 02:45:32,640
Speaker 8: a B B two ME conference coming up at bbtwo

2990
02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:34,920
Speaker 8: ME dot com. You can download the apps for that.

2991
02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:37,080
Speaker 8: Do a search for a bb to me A b

2992
02:45:37,320 --> 02:45:40,720
Speaker 8: I b I t u m I in the app

2993
02:45:40,760 --> 02:45:42,760
Speaker 8: store and the place store. We also have a messenger

2994
02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:46,080
Speaker 8: app available for Android, I call a b being crap

2995
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:49,720
Speaker 8: A b I b I n k r A. That

2996
02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:52,520
Speaker 8: one is available. We got the film festival and that

2997
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:54,640
Speaker 8: one is coming up this weekend, the twenty eighth of

2998
02:45:54,720 --> 02:45:59,879
Speaker 8: the thirtieth Film Festival dot Bbfadya dot org at bbfadi

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02:46:00,040 --> 02:46:03,400
Speaker 8: as A b I b I f A h O

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02:46:03,640 --> 02:46:07,039
Speaker 8: d i e dot org. We have the son Journey

3001
02:46:07,120 --> 02:46:10,520
Speaker 8: that's gonna go. It's gonna include the conference that I

3002
02:46:10,600 --> 02:46:13,600
Speaker 8: already mentioned at no additional costs, but it also includes

3003
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:17,160
Speaker 8: going to President Ibrahim Trara to make the presentation of

3004
02:46:17,280 --> 02:46:21,840
Speaker 8: the award and of the mural that's happening SANCOPHI journey

3005
02:46:21,879 --> 02:46:24,800
Speaker 8: dot com s A n k O f A j

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02:46:25,040 --> 02:46:28,640
Speaker 8: O U r n e y dot com. We have

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02:46:28,879 --> 02:46:30,880
Speaker 8: again the main conference. You can get that on a

3008
02:46:30,920 --> 02:46:33,640
Speaker 8: bbt me dot com and then again for those who

3009
02:46:33,720 --> 02:46:37,200
Speaker 8: want to just go direct to support the mural, go

3010
02:46:37,360 --> 02:46:39,840
Speaker 8: to the same site of bbt me dot com slash

3011
02:46:39,920 --> 02:46:43,840
Speaker 8: trray Erry easy A b I b I t U

3012
02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:48,000
Speaker 8: m I dot com slash Trray. When you see the video,

3013
02:46:48,120 --> 02:46:52,240
Speaker 8: you will be blown away by this demonstration of the

3014
02:46:52,360 --> 02:46:57,920
Speaker 8: ancestors who are protecting and guiding President Ibrahim Tray and

3015
02:46:58,040 --> 02:47:02,560
Speaker 8: all the black, deficent, black plastic, black, horrific, inspect blackular

3016
02:47:02,640 --> 02:47:05,720
Speaker 8: work that he's doing there in Brookina Faso on behalf

3017
02:47:05,800 --> 02:47:09,240
Speaker 8: of the black race. And once again, our work, our mission,

3018
02:47:09,360 --> 02:47:12,879
Speaker 8: our vision is to make Kimmitt black again. Not Kimmitt

3019
02:47:12,959 --> 02:47:15,080
Speaker 8: in the sense of when people think about ancient Egypt,

3020
02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:18,240
Speaker 8: but every because Kimmet means the land of black people.

3021
02:47:18,680 --> 02:47:22,080
Speaker 8: Wherever you see black people have Kimmitt and it's on

3022
02:47:22,280 --> 02:47:25,000
Speaker 8: all of us to make Kimmitt black again. The Lebanese

3023
02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:28,400
Speaker 8: are here, the Chinese are here, everybody's here except for

3024
02:47:28,440 --> 02:47:30,840
Speaker 8: the Pan africanis So we're changing all of that to

3025
02:47:30,959 --> 02:47:33,800
Speaker 8: the film festival, to the virtual conference, to the in

3026
02:47:33,959 --> 02:47:37,080
Speaker 8: person conference, to the Sunkophar journey where some of the

3027
02:47:37,160 --> 02:47:39,680
Speaker 8: hardest working Black people on the continent. But I can

3028
02:47:39,720 --> 02:47:42,120
Speaker 8: say that without a doubt. So this is the work

3029
02:47:42,160 --> 02:47:44,120
Speaker 8: that needs to be done. This is the work that

3030
02:47:44,320 --> 02:47:46,760
Speaker 8: is being done, and again you can be part of

3031
02:47:46,800 --> 02:47:49,280
Speaker 8: it by putting your money where your liberation is. But

3032
02:47:49,400 --> 02:47:51,400
Speaker 8: you can sider on the sidelines and then one day

3033
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:53,880
Speaker 8: you'll be in your rock and chair and your grandchild

3034
02:47:53,959 --> 02:47:56,720
Speaker 8: ask you, what were you doing when President Ibernian Fire's

3035
02:47:56,760 --> 02:47:59,320
Speaker 8: mural was delivered. You're gonna say I was buying you know,

3036
02:47:59,320 --> 02:48:03,200
Speaker 8: I don't even know with big back and some pride. No, Grandpa, No,

3037
02:48:03,320 --> 02:48:06,120
Speaker 8: you was a sellout man. You were you were square.

3038
02:48:06,280 --> 02:48:08,760
Speaker 8: You went off my grandfather. You don't want to be

3039
02:48:08,840 --> 02:48:10,680
Speaker 8: on the wrong side of history. You want to be

3040
02:48:10,720 --> 02:48:12,400
Speaker 8: on the right side of history. And we're giving you

3041
02:48:12,440 --> 02:48:13,160
Speaker 8: the opportunity.

3042
02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:17,960
Speaker 1: And we thank you doctor Cumbum for join us from

3043
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:21,160
Speaker 1: a crow this morning. And you laid a lot on them. Folks.

3044
02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:23,600
Speaker 1: People are asking me about Duddy December and all that

3045
02:48:23,840 --> 02:48:26,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff we just found right out of time,

3046
02:48:26,760 --> 02:48:28,720
Speaker 1: but but real quickly because that person want to know

3047
02:48:28,879 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 1: if if because they're going to Ghana and I want

3048
02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:35,320
Speaker 1: to know for Duddy December is it going to conflict

3049
02:48:35,400 --> 02:48:36,600
Speaker 1: with with your conference?

3050
02:48:38,480 --> 02:48:41,440
Speaker 8: So Duddy December is something where people come, they party,

3051
02:48:41,520 --> 02:48:43,760
Speaker 8: they get raunchy, and they drink and smoke and do

3052
02:48:43,920 --> 02:48:46,840
Speaker 8: whatever they want to do. The Minister of Foreign Affairs

3053
02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:48,760
Speaker 8: after dash for a summit and that's one of the

3054
02:48:48,840 --> 02:48:52,240
Speaker 8: major things was also happening. And I actually had input

3055
02:48:52,520 --> 02:48:54,840
Speaker 8: the president's speech that he's going to give where he's

3056
02:48:54,879 --> 02:48:57,959
Speaker 8: going to announce the decade of our repatriation. I got

3057
02:48:58,040 --> 02:49:00,840
Speaker 8: that verification by the head of daspar Fast Now. He

3058
02:49:00,920 --> 02:49:03,480
Speaker 8: said that the President tends to go off scrip, but

3059
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:06,720
Speaker 8: he has the speech in front of him that has

3060
02:49:06,760 --> 02:49:09,280
Speaker 8: all the information about decade of our repatriation and we're

3061
02:49:09,320 --> 02:49:12,080
Speaker 8: waiting for that. So Dirty December. If people want to come,

3062
02:49:12,120 --> 02:49:14,640
Speaker 8: they want to get raunchy, they want to get crusty,

3063
02:49:14,720 --> 02:49:17,800
Speaker 8: they want to get dirty and you know, dusty, and

3064
02:49:17,879 --> 02:49:20,040
Speaker 8: however they want to do, they can do that. But

3065
02:49:20,160 --> 02:49:22,840
Speaker 8: these are the serious programs that once you get done,

3066
02:49:23,600 --> 02:49:26,480
Speaker 8: once you get over your hangover, well guess what, there's

3067
02:49:26,560 --> 02:49:30,000
Speaker 8: some serious programs that are happening. And the programs are

3068
02:49:30,040 --> 02:49:31,840
Speaker 8: gonna be fun as well. We're gonna have you know,

3069
02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:34,880
Speaker 8: the festival. There's gonna be music. Everything is gonna be

3070
02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:37,760
Speaker 8: on the theme of what black power is, demonstration over conversation,

3071
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:40,680
Speaker 8: but we're gonna have some fun as well, and we

3072
02:49:40,760 --> 02:49:42,840
Speaker 8: want people to be part of the film festival. You're

3073
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:44,920
Speaker 8: gonna have fun at the film Festival. But guess what

3074
02:49:45,280 --> 02:49:47,600
Speaker 8: you're gonna be supporting black power and black liberation while

3075
02:49:47,600 --> 02:49:50,280
Speaker 8: you're having fun. You're gonna have fun. At the virtual conference.

3076
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:52,880
Speaker 8: Last year we had Baba Anthony Browner. The last time

3077
02:49:52,959 --> 02:49:54,400
Speaker 8: I was on, he was speaking. I think it was

3078
02:49:54,440 --> 02:49:56,280
Speaker 8: either right before me or after me.

3079
02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:56,840
Speaker 4: We had him.

3080
02:49:56,920 --> 02:49:59,680
Speaker 8: Last year, we had Mama Biden, a bellow who was

3081
02:49:59,760 --> 02:50:02,600
Speaker 8: on last year. So many luminaries, and then this year

3082
02:50:02,640 --> 02:50:06,040
Speaker 8: we have doctor kemm At Shockley who is an educator

3083
02:50:06,120 --> 02:50:08,840
Speaker 8: also a filmmaker as well. We have just so many

3084
02:50:08,920 --> 02:50:11,600
Speaker 8: who are going to be a part of this decade

3085
02:50:11,640 --> 02:50:13,400
Speaker 8: of our repatriation. And one of the things I'm most

3086
02:50:13,480 --> 02:50:17,039
Speaker 8: excited about is the University of Ghana has come on board.

3087
02:50:17,120 --> 02:50:20,600
Speaker 8: College of Humanities is on board for a series of

3088
02:50:20,720 --> 02:50:24,640
Speaker 8: dialogues between those on the continent, those of the diaspora

3089
02:50:24,680 --> 02:50:27,920
Speaker 8: who repatriate, so those who are here can see why

3090
02:50:28,000 --> 02:50:31,280
Speaker 8: we're repatriating and those who are repatrioting and see why

3091
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:33,600
Speaker 8: Some of these people some of it, especially the students,

3092
02:50:33,879 --> 02:50:35,440
Speaker 8: are like, hey, get me out of here, put me

3093
02:50:35,480 --> 02:50:38,680
Speaker 8: on the first thing smoking and how we can actually dot.

3094
02:50:38,560 --> 02:50:39,879
Speaker 1: To come on. We got to cut it again because

3095
02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:42,640
Speaker 1: we cut up on the break but I want to

3096
02:50:42,680 --> 02:50:45,040
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing all that information, especially the last

3097
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:47,320
Speaker 1: moment with us this morning. But thank you again. And

3098
02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:49,760
Speaker 1: we're running late. It's twenty three minutes away from the

3099
02:50:49,840 --> 02:50:52,000
Speaker 1: top of our family. Come back with well the co

3100
02:50:52,200 --> 02:50:54,720
Speaker 1: founder of Black Voters Matter, Latasha Brown, she's going to

3101
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:56,760
Speaker 1: join us. You can speak to her an eight hundred

3102
02:50:56,800 --> 02:50:59,160
Speaker 1: and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

3103
02:50:59,200 --> 02:51:01,880
Speaker 1: well take your phone call next and Grand Rising family,

3104
02:51:02,040 --> 02:51:04,680
Speaker 1: thanks for just rolling with us on this Tuesday morning.

3105
02:51:04,760 --> 02:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Interesting morning as usual here eighteen minutes away from the

3106
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:09,560
Speaker 1: top there. Before we go to our next guest, let

3107
02:51:09,600 --> 02:51:11,800
Speaker 1: me just remind you. Coming up later this week, you're

3108
02:51:11,840 --> 02:51:14,640
Speaker 1: going to hear from the multitalented researcher brother Katy Owadu,

3109
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:19,560
Speaker 1: futuristic researcher brother Sideka Kari, and also a historian Michael

3110
02:51:19,640 --> 02:51:21,560
Speaker 1: Motep will be here. So if you are in Baltimore,

3111
02:51:21,640 --> 02:51:24,080
Speaker 1: keep your radio locked in Tight on ten ten WLB,

3112
02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:28,520
Speaker 1: the DMV on fourteen fifteen WL. Natasha Brown has joined us.

3113
02:51:28,920 --> 02:51:31,000
Speaker 1: This is one of the co founders of Black Voters Matter,

3114
02:51:31,120 --> 02:51:33,080
Speaker 1: Grand Rising. Latasha, welcome to the program.

3115
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:35,520
Speaker 11: Good morning, good morning.

3116
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:36,200
Speaker 10: I'm happy to be here.

3117
02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us. Now, you guys are saying that we

3118
02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:41,720
Speaker 1: should be more selective this holiday season.

3119
02:51:42,080 --> 02:51:45,080
Speaker 10: Why and how that's right? We're saying, we've launched a

3120
02:51:45,160 --> 02:51:48,320
Speaker 10: campaign saying we ain't buying it. That part of what

3121
02:51:48,520 --> 02:51:52,680
Speaker 10: we want, particularly black consumers to understand and recognize is

3122
02:51:52,760 --> 02:51:56,199
Speaker 10: how much power we have that black people in this country.

3123
02:51:56,320 --> 02:51:59,960
Speaker 10: We have all one point seven trillion dollars in consumer

3124
02:52:00,200 --> 02:52:03,920
Speaker 10: spending resources, and so we have to be more country

3125
02:52:04,000 --> 02:52:07,200
Speaker 10: incious of how we use our resources. And in a

3126
02:52:07,280 --> 02:52:11,000
Speaker 10: moment that we're seeing the rollback of rights, we're seeing

3127
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:15,720
Speaker 10: an act on our voting rights, We're seeing cuts them

3128
02:52:15,800 --> 02:52:20,240
Speaker 10: social safety programs. We're seeing women being pushed out of

3129
02:52:20,240 --> 02:52:24,520
Speaker 10: the job market. Almost eight hundred thousand Black women have

3130
02:52:24,879 --> 02:52:27,640
Speaker 10: been pushed out of the job market, and our undeplayed

3131
02:52:27,680 --> 02:52:30,960
Speaker 10: employment rate is essentially double what the national rate is.

3132
02:52:31,320 --> 02:52:34,240
Speaker 10: We're actually seeing black businesses that have been doing federal business,

3133
02:52:34,280 --> 02:52:36,840
Speaker 10: that have federal contracts that many of those contracts have

3134
02:52:36,879 --> 02:52:40,840
Speaker 10: been counseled or their certifications of which they've actually done

3135
02:52:40,920 --> 02:52:43,640
Speaker 10: the work to get these certifications. Now they've become null

3136
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:45,960
Speaker 10: and void, and the federal government is telling them, oh,

3137
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:48,240
Speaker 10: you got to go through a whole nother process and

3138
02:52:48,360 --> 02:52:51,160
Speaker 10: create hurdles. The bottom line is, I think that we

3139
02:52:51,320 --> 02:52:54,800
Speaker 10: know as a community that there is seriously something going

3140
02:52:54,920 --> 02:52:57,800
Speaker 10: on in this country that is impacting us. That we

3141
02:52:57,879 --> 02:53:01,800
Speaker 10: are seeing an administration that has has weaponized race and racism.

3142
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:04,800
Speaker 10: We're seeing administration that has cut us, trying to roll

3143
02:53:04,879 --> 02:53:07,720
Speaker 10: back all of the all of the advances that we've

3144
02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:11,200
Speaker 10: made in terms of policy, and to actually render our

3145
02:53:11,320 --> 02:53:16,840
Speaker 10: communities economically unstable. And so as a result, what we're

3146
02:53:16,840 --> 02:53:20,280
Speaker 10: seeing is we are doing three things with this campaign. One,

3147
02:53:20,680 --> 02:53:23,959
Speaker 10: we're reclaiming our power. We're acknowledging that we have complete

3148
02:53:24,080 --> 02:53:26,640
Speaker 10: choice on how we spend our money. The second thing

3149
02:53:26,840 --> 02:53:29,960
Speaker 10: is we're going to redirect our resources that in this moment,

3150
02:53:30,040 --> 02:53:32,760
Speaker 10: because of some of the economic instability and some of

3151
02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:36,840
Speaker 10: fallout even from the tariff, that many of our small

3152
02:53:36,959 --> 02:53:39,920
Speaker 10: businesses and local businesses have been struggling. So we think

3153
02:53:39,959 --> 02:53:42,440
Speaker 10: that this is a moment in this season of which

3154
02:53:42,520 --> 02:53:45,840
Speaker 10: we shop for us to redirect our resources and to

3155
02:53:45,959 --> 02:53:49,720
Speaker 10: buy some local community black owned businesses. And the third

3156
02:53:49,800 --> 02:53:52,560
Speaker 10: thing is we've got to resist. We have to spend

3157
02:53:52,600 --> 02:53:54,920
Speaker 10: a message loud and clear that we will not connect,

3158
02:53:55,160 --> 02:53:57,720
Speaker 10: we will not spend our money on our own oppression.

3159
02:53:57,760 --> 02:54:00,680
Speaker 10: We will not spend our money in investing coi that

3160
02:54:00,800 --> 02:54:03,400
Speaker 10: are literally standing with an administration that has hurtful and

3161
02:54:03,480 --> 02:54:05,240
Speaker 10: harmful policies for our community.

3162
02:54:06,080 --> 02:54:08,120
Speaker 1: All right, and fifteen away from the top, let's tell

3163
02:54:08,120 --> 02:54:09,640
Speaker 1: you so how do we get this information?

3164
02:54:09,720 --> 02:54:09,879
Speaker 6: Though?

3165
02:54:09,920 --> 02:54:11,840
Speaker 1: How do we know what companies to spend our money

3166
02:54:11,920 --> 02:54:13,760
Speaker 1: with and who not to spend our money with?

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02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:17,240
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think part of this we are focusing

3168
02:54:17,360 --> 02:54:19,920
Speaker 10: in highlighting three companies in particular, but that's not all

3169
02:54:19,959 --> 02:54:22,080
Speaker 10: the bad players. I think we have to be a

3170
02:54:22,240 --> 02:54:26,240
Speaker 10: little more conscientious around our consumer choices. And I think

3171
02:54:26,320 --> 02:54:28,680
Speaker 10: we have to do some research now that the three

3172
02:54:28,760 --> 02:54:32,360
Speaker 10: companies that we're highlighting, our home Depot part of home

3173
02:54:32,440 --> 02:54:35,000
Speaker 10: Depot has been giving information the ice. They've been letting

3174
02:54:35,080 --> 02:54:38,000
Speaker 10: ice the same people who actually helped build their business.

3175
02:54:38,320 --> 02:54:42,240
Speaker 10: You know, what we're seeing is they're allowed and capitulating

3176
02:54:42,280 --> 02:54:47,960
Speaker 10: with US administration. And also we said Home Depot, Amazon

3177
02:54:48,240 --> 02:54:50,440
Speaker 10: and Target. Many may know that there has been a

3178
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:53,320
Speaker 10: Target fad that has turned into a Target boydcot that's

3179
02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:56,680
Speaker 10: been going on since January, currently being led by doctor

3180
02:54:56,760 --> 02:55:01,680
Speaker 10: Jamal Bryant, Nina Turner and to Mika Mallory and so

3181
02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:03,800
Speaker 10: at the end of the day, part of what we're

3182
02:55:03,800 --> 02:55:07,160
Speaker 10: saying is those businesses in particular over this weekend, and

3183
02:55:07,280 --> 02:55:09,760
Speaker 10: we ain't buying it. But we also want people to

3184
02:55:09,879 --> 02:55:12,920
Speaker 10: even go deeper than that to make choices. Find out

3185
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:16,560
Speaker 10: what companies are actually not supporting the policies that you believe,

3186
02:55:16,600 --> 02:55:19,600
Speaker 10: and find out what companies that really have capitulated to

3187
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:22,400
Speaker 10: this administration and been doing hr find harmful things. And

3188
02:55:22,480 --> 02:55:25,360
Speaker 10: if you don't have time to do that, particularly in

3189
02:55:25,400 --> 02:55:28,240
Speaker 10: this space, what we're saying in general that we've got

3190
02:55:28,280 --> 02:55:31,119
Speaker 10: to build a muscle that we are redirecting our dollars

3191
02:55:31,480 --> 02:55:34,680
Speaker 10: of regardless that we've got to redirect our dollars to

3192
02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:39,120
Speaker 10: support black institutions, black businesses, and black effort. So this

3193
02:55:39,280 --> 02:55:41,040
Speaker 10: is a moment for us to do a hard reset

3194
02:55:41,480 --> 02:55:44,480
Speaker 10: to say we ain't buying it as an opportunity for

3195
02:55:44,680 --> 02:55:47,160
Speaker 10: us to really think about how do we invest in

3196
02:55:47,240 --> 02:55:51,000
Speaker 10: our community and build out the ecosystem and support where

3197
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:54,360
Speaker 10: our people are safe, where our people are building wealth,

3198
02:55:54,800 --> 02:55:57,080
Speaker 10: where our people are doing work. To put food on

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Speaker 10: the tape.

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Speaker 1: Hundred and four five zero seventy eight seven speak sixth

3201
02:56:02,840 --> 02:56:05,480
Speaker 1: to speak to Latasha Brown, money Mice calling in from Baltimore.

3202
02:56:05,520 --> 02:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Has a question for you, Latasha grand Rise and Mike.

3203
02:56:08,280 --> 02:56:09,800
Speaker 1: You'allna Latasha Brown.

3204
02:56:11,959 --> 02:56:13,840
Speaker 15: More than miss Brown. How a y'all doing this morning?

3205
02:56:14,959 --> 02:56:18,840
Speaker 8: We are wonderful brother, great to hear from here, ma'am.

3206
02:56:19,640 --> 02:56:22,200
Speaker 15: I want you to tell me and tell us listening audience,

3207
02:56:22,280 --> 02:56:25,360
Speaker 15: how you plan to communicate and get this out. I

3208
02:56:25,560 --> 02:56:29,920
Speaker 15: understand that we in the Washington, DC metro we have

3209
02:56:30,280 --> 02:56:36,280
Speaker 15: w AL and w LB, but our communication network has

3210
02:56:36,320 --> 02:56:40,680
Speaker 15: been broken. We've lost Ebony Jet essence, We've lost our

3211
02:56:40,760 --> 02:56:42,840
Speaker 15: local our newspapers.

3212
02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:45,360
Speaker 8: How are you gonna get this out to the masses? Man?

3213
02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:50,080
Speaker 10: Wonderful question, Thank you for asking me this. I am

3214
02:56:50,160 --> 02:56:53,280
Speaker 10: a long term organizer, so I understand exactly what you're saying.

3215
02:56:53,640 --> 02:56:55,040
Speaker 10: But one of the things that we've been doing for

3216
02:56:55,040 --> 02:56:57,560
Speaker 10: the last two weeks that as an organization, part of

3217
02:56:57,600 --> 02:57:00,440
Speaker 10: the way that you helped get information out is you

3218
02:57:00,480 --> 02:57:05,080
Speaker 10: go to credible sources and credible institutions. And so now

3219
02:57:05,160 --> 02:57:09,240
Speaker 10: we have one hundred and eighty national organizations that are

3220
02:57:09,320 --> 02:57:12,640
Speaker 10: signed on to this campaign that actually helping lead There

3221
02:57:12,680 --> 02:57:15,880
Speaker 10: are millions of people who have been informed through these

3222
02:57:17,120 --> 02:57:19,440
Speaker 10: One of our partners is SCIU, which is a Labor

3223
02:57:19,520 --> 02:57:22,120
Speaker 10: Union that has over two millions. We have the No

3224
02:57:22,320 --> 02:57:25,080
Speaker 10: Kings Alliance which have made up They were able to

3225
02:57:25,160 --> 02:57:28,440
Speaker 10: mobilize the seven million people that came out in terms

3226
02:57:28,480 --> 02:57:32,640
Speaker 10: of doing the protests. We're really grateful and honored that

3227
02:57:32,879 --> 02:57:36,520
Speaker 10: NAACP has just joined as part of this effort. So

3228
02:57:36,600 --> 02:57:39,840
Speaker 10: we have one hundred and eighty one hundred and eighty

3229
02:57:39,879 --> 02:57:44,160
Speaker 10: plus national organizations that we're reaching out to our network

3230
02:57:44,440 --> 02:57:48,160
Speaker 10: and we're doing basic grass food organizing. If you go

3231
02:57:48,360 --> 02:57:50,640
Speaker 10: on social media, a lot of people know about it.

3232
02:57:50,760 --> 02:57:53,280
Speaker 10: We need more people to know about it, but a

3233
02:57:53,360 --> 02:57:55,080
Speaker 10: lot of people know about it because we didn't just

3234
02:57:55,160 --> 02:57:58,600
Speaker 10: depend on, to your point, traditional media, because sometimes what

3235
02:57:58,720 --> 02:58:01,360
Speaker 10: we're seeing is that they capitulated. But what we have

3236
02:58:01,480 --> 02:58:04,160
Speaker 10: been doing is getting this information out to black media.

3237
02:58:04,400 --> 02:58:07,080
Speaker 10: That's why it's so important that you all support programs

3238
02:58:07,200 --> 02:58:09,640
Speaker 10: like this and stations that we can get the information

3239
02:58:09,760 --> 02:58:12,360
Speaker 10: directly to our people. We have been doing a radio,

3240
02:58:12,640 --> 02:58:16,440
Speaker 10: We've done so much media, particularly we started with black media.

3241
02:58:16,480 --> 02:58:18,200
Speaker 10: We've done a lot of work with black media with

3242
02:58:18,320 --> 02:58:22,800
Speaker 10: print media. We've done announced it from CNN and from

3243
02:58:22,840 --> 02:58:25,120
Speaker 10: the traditional but we then lead it on that what

3244
02:58:25,280 --> 02:58:30,640
Speaker 10: we're doing is basic grassroots organizing where we are absolutely

3245
02:58:30,760 --> 02:58:34,400
Speaker 10: happenent networks of millions of people who are already members

3246
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:38,560
Speaker 10: of labor unions, of social justice organizations and using our

3247
02:58:38,640 --> 02:58:41,320
Speaker 10: networks and our skills as organizers to get the word out.

3248
02:58:41,360 --> 02:58:45,360
Speaker 10: But we certainly need more information that's out there. We've

3249
02:58:45,400 --> 02:58:49,320
Speaker 10: been using social media, we have content creators. You know,

3250
02:58:49,400 --> 02:58:51,720
Speaker 10: there's some really cool things that are happening that people

3251
02:58:51,800 --> 02:58:54,400
Speaker 10: doing actions that have already been doing the work that

3252
02:58:54,440 --> 02:58:56,400
Speaker 10: are signed on. So that's the way that we've been

3253
02:58:56,400 --> 02:58:58,800
Speaker 10: approaching to help get the information out. But we will

3254
02:58:58,959 --> 02:59:01,720
Speaker 10: certainly need you all telp as you all are listened.

3255
02:59:01,840 --> 02:59:03,760
Speaker 10: If you haven't heard about it, please tell a friend,

3256
02:59:04,080 --> 02:59:06,720
Speaker 10: Tell ten folks that you know about this efter that

3257
02:59:06,879 --> 02:59:08,240
Speaker 10: is happening, all right.

3258
02:59:08,360 --> 02:59:09,920
Speaker 1: Ten away from the top of that was that Tasha

3259
02:59:09,959 --> 02:59:12,560
Speaker 1: Brown with Black Voters Matter. And if we say we

3260
02:59:12,640 --> 02:59:15,400
Speaker 1: should be selective in our purchases of this holiday season,

3261
02:59:16,280 --> 02:59:19,160
Speaker 1: letts what if some people say that the boycotts and

3262
02:59:19,520 --> 02:59:21,640
Speaker 1: that's what they are just going straight up to the boycotts.

3263
02:59:22,320 --> 02:59:24,000
Speaker 1: What are the people who work for these companies, the

3264
02:59:24,040 --> 02:59:26,400
Speaker 1: black people who work for these companies. Aren't they going

3265
02:59:26,480 --> 02:59:28,200
Speaker 1: to be impacted? I don't thinking we're the ones, the

3266
02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:29,520
Speaker 1: first ones to lose their jobs.

3267
02:59:30,959 --> 02:59:34,800
Speaker 10: Well, we're saying this that they're being impacted just overall

3268
02:59:34,959 --> 02:59:37,680
Speaker 10: that part of what we're seeing is that we're seeing

3269
02:59:37,920 --> 02:59:41,959
Speaker 10: the erosion and the abandonment of DEI policies, the very

3270
02:59:42,080 --> 02:59:44,600
Speaker 10: pathways that open up the space for many of our

3271
02:59:44,680 --> 02:59:48,760
Speaker 10: people to actually get jobs for many of our people,

3272
02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:52,640
Speaker 10: and not just on the princes. They're not just HOLIDAYI.

3273
02:59:52,760 --> 02:59:54,640
Speaker 10: You got to show up and have the same kind

3274
02:59:54,680 --> 02:59:58,160
Speaker 10: of credentials and oftentimes even more so than your white

3275
02:59:58,240 --> 03:00:00,800
Speaker 10: counter parts. But oftentimes there was and a policy in

3276
03:00:00,879 --> 03:00:03,080
Speaker 10: place to make sure that we at least had a

3277
03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:06,400
Speaker 10: fair hand. And so many of these companies are rolling back,

3278
03:00:07,480 --> 03:00:10,680
Speaker 10: and what we're seeing, they're rolling back these policies that

3279
03:00:10,879 --> 03:00:14,200
Speaker 10: have been a pathway to helping our people at least

3280
03:00:14,240 --> 03:00:16,560
Speaker 10: get a fair shot. So what we're saying is this

3281
03:00:16,760 --> 03:00:19,680
Speaker 10: is about the collective. Yet this is about how do

3282
03:00:19,840 --> 03:00:22,160
Speaker 10: we use our power in such a way that we

3283
03:00:22,360 --> 03:00:24,840
Speaker 10: push back and say that we're not going to use

3284
03:00:24,920 --> 03:00:29,640
Speaker 10: our intellectual capacity, we're not going to use our resources,

3285
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:32,240
Speaker 10: we're not going to use our dollars to continue to

3286
03:00:32,280 --> 03:00:35,240
Speaker 10: support companies that don't stand with us. So I think

3287
03:00:35,280 --> 03:00:38,160
Speaker 10: that there's a greater lesson in this is around how

3288
03:00:38,240 --> 03:00:43,080
Speaker 10: do we secure an economy, how do we secure ourselves

3289
03:00:43,200 --> 03:00:46,040
Speaker 10: in a way that we're very conscious around the policies

3290
03:00:46,280 --> 03:00:49,000
Speaker 10: that are hurting and harming us what we want. It

3291
03:00:49,120 --> 03:00:53,080
Speaker 10: is unacceptable for us to see black women have a

3292
03:00:53,360 --> 03:00:57,000
Speaker 10: higher unemployment rate that's almost double the national rate. That

3293
03:00:57,200 --> 03:00:59,080
Speaker 10: something has to be said and something has.

3294
03:00:59,000 --> 03:00:59,480
Speaker 8: To be done.

3295
03:01:00,120 --> 03:01:02,640
Speaker 10: We have power, not just political power, but we have

3296
03:01:02,800 --> 03:01:06,199
Speaker 10: economic power. So this is about something greater and longer

3297
03:01:06,480 --> 03:01:09,520
Speaker 10: that ultimately we all see the trends, we all see

3298
03:01:09,560 --> 03:01:12,240
Speaker 10: what is happening in this country. We all see what

3299
03:01:12,400 --> 03:01:15,120
Speaker 10: communities are under tacked. So this is one way for

3300
03:01:15,280 --> 03:01:18,000
Speaker 10: us to actually create a response of how do we

3301
03:01:18,160 --> 03:01:20,560
Speaker 10: use our power in such a way that we ain't

3302
03:01:20,600 --> 03:01:23,240
Speaker 10: buying it, that we are not going to participate in

3303
03:01:23,440 --> 03:01:26,760
Speaker 10: systems that constantly hurt and harm us. And in fact,

3304
03:01:27,040 --> 03:01:30,119
Speaker 10: not only were we claiming our power, but we're redirecting

3305
03:01:30,200 --> 03:01:32,640
Speaker 10: our dollars and we're resistant.

3306
03:01:33,680 --> 03:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Ate away from the Tampa Alatasha Brown with Black Voters

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Speaker 1: Matter Family, another question for you. You talked about Target,

3308
03:01:39,760 --> 03:01:43,200
Speaker 1: and Target obviously has impacted Target. They've had to lay

3309
03:01:43,240 --> 03:01:46,080
Speaker 1: off a lot of people at some of the top staffers,

3310
03:01:46,160 --> 03:01:50,080
Speaker 1: and they themselves admitted that it has been impactful. But

3311
03:01:50,320 --> 03:01:53,160
Speaker 1: that's started, as you mentioned in January, are you are

3312
03:01:53,200 --> 03:01:58,760
Speaker 1: you prepared to continue a similar timeline with these stores

3313
03:01:58,800 --> 03:01:59,440
Speaker 1: that you mentioned.

3314
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Speaker 10: So let me say this because I want people to understand,

3315
03:02:03,360 --> 03:02:06,920
Speaker 10: you know, Target, we ate buying it is.

3316
03:02:06,920 --> 03:02:07,640
Speaker 11: Not a boycott.

3317
03:02:07,959 --> 03:02:09,400
Speaker 10: So I want people to hear me loud and clear,

3318
03:02:09,640 --> 03:02:12,400
Speaker 10: we eate buying it dot com. We're not a boycott.

3319
03:02:12,520 --> 03:02:15,480
Speaker 10: What we are we ate buying it is an economic action.

3320
03:02:16,040 --> 03:02:19,200
Speaker 10: And within the economic actions, there are people that have

3321
03:02:19,320 --> 03:02:21,720
Speaker 10: a spectrum of actions that they're doing. There are some

3322
03:02:21,920 --> 03:02:24,320
Speaker 10: that are leading boycott, there are some that are actually

3323
03:02:24,360 --> 03:02:27,480
Speaker 10: leading protests at stores. There are some that are just

3324
03:02:27,560 --> 03:02:30,000
Speaker 10: refusing to spend their money. There are some that are

3325
03:02:30,040 --> 03:02:35,840
Speaker 10: canceling their canceling their memberships. This campaign in particular was

3326
03:02:35,920 --> 03:02:40,480
Speaker 10: designed for us to actually to increase our consumer consciousness.

3327
03:02:40,760 --> 03:02:43,600
Speaker 10: That is important for us to really recognize that over

3328
03:02:43,720 --> 03:02:46,520
Speaker 10: the years that we have gotten so caught up into

3329
03:02:46,600 --> 03:02:50,760
Speaker 10: this commercialism and this consumerism all of us. I'm myself

3330
03:02:51,000 --> 03:02:53,840
Speaker 10: will admit that I've gotten caught up protecting during the holidays.

3331
03:02:54,080 --> 03:02:56,720
Speaker 10: I remember at one point in Thanksgiving that you couldn't

3332
03:02:56,720 --> 03:02:58,879
Speaker 10: find a store open. And I talked about this often

3333
03:02:59,160 --> 03:03:01,280
Speaker 10: that if you want you forgot the crabberry sauce, you

3334
03:03:01,360 --> 03:03:03,119
Speaker 10: had to go down the street and get the can

3335
03:03:03,200 --> 03:03:04,879
Speaker 10: that might have been sitting there for about six months.

3336
03:03:04,920 --> 03:03:06,959
Speaker 10: That was about eight dollars for you to get because

3337
03:03:06,959 --> 03:03:10,000
Speaker 10: you couldn't find anything open. Over the years, we're slowly

3338
03:03:10,080 --> 03:03:13,879
Speaker 10: see how they've crept up this black and moved Black

3339
03:03:13,959 --> 03:03:17,280
Speaker 10: Friday up so now that before people get finished at

3340
03:03:17,280 --> 03:03:19,640
Speaker 10: fool Good, they're ready to run out the door and

3341
03:03:19,720 --> 03:03:23,440
Speaker 10: go find some seale, some Thanksgiving sales, which actually has

3342
03:03:23,520 --> 03:03:26,039
Speaker 10: taken us away from our families, which has made us

3343
03:03:26,200 --> 03:03:29,400
Speaker 10: chasty sales at the expense of really not spending time

3344
03:03:29,480 --> 03:03:32,040
Speaker 10: with our families. And so the way that we've approached

3345
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:34,959
Speaker 10: it is that this is not just about the companies.

3346
03:03:35,040 --> 03:03:37,680
Speaker 10: This is a reset, a hard reset for us to

3347
03:03:37,840 --> 03:03:41,440
Speaker 10: actually really think about rooted is how much community and

3348
03:03:41,560 --> 03:03:45,400
Speaker 10: family matters. How do we really think more consciously about

3349
03:03:45,440 --> 03:03:48,280
Speaker 10: our spending choices, how do we redirect our dollars to

3350
03:03:50,520 --> 03:03:53,480
Speaker 10: black institutions and black businesses, and how in fact are

3351
03:03:53,560 --> 03:03:56,200
Speaker 10: we in tune with all of the politics that are

3352
03:03:56,240 --> 03:03:58,080
Speaker 10: going around that are impacting us.

3353
03:03:58,160 --> 03:03:59,400
Speaker 4: And so on Thursday, we're.

3354
03:03:59,320 --> 03:04:02,680
Speaker 10: Saying, don't spend a dime, spend time, take that time,

3355
03:04:02,760 --> 03:04:05,320
Speaker 10: don't chase a sale, take that time to spend with

3356
03:04:05,440 --> 03:04:07,960
Speaker 10: your family and your friends and your loved ones, and

3357
03:04:08,160 --> 03:04:10,480
Speaker 10: talk about we actually need our safety, that we need

3358
03:04:10,600 --> 03:04:13,360
Speaker 10: our communities to be together. On Friday, which is normally

3359
03:04:13,440 --> 03:04:16,480
Speaker 10: Black Friday, it's called Black Friday because it is actually

3360
03:04:16,560 --> 03:04:19,160
Speaker 10: the day that most of the businesses that have been

3361
03:04:19,240 --> 03:04:21,240
Speaker 10: in the red all year that they get into black

3362
03:04:21,320 --> 03:04:23,760
Speaker 10: that year. And what we're saying is, let's take black

3363
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:26,560
Speaker 10: businesses in the black this year, like, let's use that

3364
03:04:26,680 --> 03:04:29,480
Speaker 10: as a blackout Friday, that if we are spending, we

3365
03:04:29,520 --> 03:04:33,800
Speaker 10: are spending with black women and local community owned businesses.

3366
03:04:34,040 --> 03:04:35,840
Speaker 11: The same with Saturday and Sunday.

3367
03:04:35,560 --> 03:04:38,400
Speaker 10: That is small business Saturday and small Business Sunday. That

3368
03:04:38,520 --> 03:04:41,040
Speaker 10: we will take the three days and discipline ourselves to

3369
03:04:41,200 --> 03:04:44,480
Speaker 10: seek out black businesses that are doing work and provide

3370
03:04:44,560 --> 03:04:47,160
Speaker 10: services and products in our communities. And on Monday, which

3371
03:04:47,200 --> 03:04:49,720
Speaker 10: is Cyber Monday, we're calling this cyber shutdown that we're

3372
03:04:49,800 --> 03:04:51,960
Speaker 10: not going to get caught up and this kind of

3373
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:54,840
Speaker 10: this consumerism that we're just going to spend money with

3374
03:04:55,000 --> 03:04:58,600
Speaker 10: companies with no conscious with no sense of consciousness or

3375
03:04:58,680 --> 03:05:02,240
Speaker 10: even any them take in any corporate responsibility that their

3376
03:05:02,640 --> 03:05:05,360
Speaker 10: bottom line and their profits are driven by their consumers.

3377
03:05:05,560 --> 03:05:07,400
Speaker 10: And if that is the case, then you've got to

3378
03:05:07,440 --> 03:05:10,480
Speaker 10: create policies to make sure that your consumers are not

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Speaker 10: hurt and harmed just because you want a tax break

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Speaker 10: from this administration. So that's how we approach it. This

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Speaker 10: campaign has more to do with us and our behavior,

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Speaker 10: our consciousness, and our collective of our collective responsibility to

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Speaker 10: one another and for the keeper, making sure that we're

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Speaker 10: keeping full of our tables and making sure that we're

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Speaker 10: using our resources in a responsible way to not support

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Speaker 10: companies that hurt and harm us or support policies that

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Speaker 10: hurt and harm us.

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Speaker 1: All right, Feman, that's Atasha Brown from Black Voters Matter.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go. How can folks get more information?

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Speaker 1: And also is there a list of since we're supporting

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Speaker 1: a black business is or a list on the website

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Speaker 1: as well where we can go for alternative shopping.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, so you can check our website out Black

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Speaker 10: votersmatterfund dot org. We have a page, there's some links

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Speaker 10: to black businesses the US Black Chamber of Commerce has

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Speaker 10: an amazing list that when people want to access to

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Speaker 10: an exhausted list, the US Chamber of Commerce has a

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Speaker 10: major list. There's also an app called black v lapp,

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Speaker 10: and in that app you can actually it has geo

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Speaker 10: tracking where you can go in an area and if

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Speaker 10: there are black local businesses around, it will actually pin

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Speaker 10: them for you where you can see where some local

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Speaker 10: businesses are. There are also other resources that you get

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Speaker 10: to if you come to our website, but you can

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Speaker 10: sign it for the campaign at we Ain't Buying It

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Speaker 10: dot com. We ain't buying it dot com. There's some

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Speaker 10: stops that have got a boutique that y'all know. She

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Speaker 10: got some cute stuff. There's some brother out there that's

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Speaker 10: been offering products and oil and other products and tech

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Speaker 10: tech gifts. This is a moment for us to really

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Speaker 10: show some economic discipline. This is a moment we're asking

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Speaker 10: people for five days to lean into an effort that

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Speaker 10: millions of people across this country have leaned into. That

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Speaker 10: we are ultimately saying we ain't behind it, all right,

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Speaker 10: and we.

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Speaker 1: Got cut it there. Latasha, thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 1: sharing that information with us. All right, family, thank you

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Speaker 1: class is dismissed. Done for the day. Stay strong, stay positive,

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Speaker 1: please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock

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Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB. I'm also

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Speaker 1: in the DMV on fourteen fifty WOL