1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: You got to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein's unit. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: There's an article that came out that said it was 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: shaped like a fruit. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: You have been on this now hour? No, you're like 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: showing it. She brings her phone over here, and it's like, 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: look at this. Did you see this? Why would I 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: want to see that? Lady? 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: Why why would anybody want to see that? 9 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: Well? Why are you showing post is reporting on it? 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I thought you needed to have the in. 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: You needn't know what Jeffrey Epstein's unit was shaped line? 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: No, thank you, No, you needed to know what the 13 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: report was. Oh, that's what it is. 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: What was it? 15 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm not talking. 16 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: About it any pumpkin. That's what you said. 17 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: A lemon? 18 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: A lemon? Why was that a story? I don't know. 19 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: That's why I was like, look at this. 20 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: This is where maybe if you didn't even read the story, 21 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: you just the headline? 22 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: Correct? 23 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, how does that even work? 24 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: How does what even work? 25 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: Like if you're unit were shaped like a lemon, I 26 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: don't know. 27 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: You're the one with the equipment, not me. 28 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, you've been married for twenty seven years. You all 29 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: said you have a child. You know how it works? 30 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: By the way, it's twenty eight years. 31 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank thank you, You're welcome. 32 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: This past weekend. 33 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh did you do anything fun? 34 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? 35 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: What'd you do? 36 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: I'm not telling you. 37 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh didn't involve a lemon? No? What is what is 38 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: going on with Jeffrey Epstein? 39 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: Well, Congress passed the bill compelling the public release of 40 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: all the unclassified DOJ records the House. Yes, the House 41 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: approved the bill four hundred and twenty seven to one. 42 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: And the one guy, Representative. 43 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: Clay Higgins from Louisiana. 44 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: He's getting crushed. I have no idea why he voted 45 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: against it, but he is just getting just slaughtered, you 46 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: know on social media. What possible reason could there have 47 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: been to vote against releasing that information? 48 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he voted. No, he had 49 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: his reason, but you're right now people are picking on him. 50 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: It does, really, though, give you some insight into how 51 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: rotten Washington, DC is. Okay, so everybody but one guy 52 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: votes to do this, and yet when it came to 53 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: the now, this is not the discharge petition, right, This 54 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: is not this is not the dist because that's not 55 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: come until December. 56 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: Correct. These are the unclassified DOJ records. 57 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Right now think about this though, the discharged petition, they 58 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: only got four Republicans to vote four or to sign 59 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: off on that, so they'll have to address that in 60 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. But like, why are we not allowed 61 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: to know this guy's been dead? What has he been dead? 62 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Six years? Five years? 63 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? 64 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: I saw somebody on social media just having a complete meltdown. 65 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: Why do they have to vote on this? Why do 66 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: they have to vote at all? 67 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: Just do it? Yeah, And it's very Why does it 68 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: have to be a law? I think it's the game 69 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: that appears to be being played with this. We talked 70 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: about this a little bit yesterday, where whether you're a 71 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Democrat or Republican or libertarian, apathetic to politics, whatever, every 72 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: single one of us, I think, would say we all 73 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: have a vested interest in standing on human sex trafficking, pedophilia. 74 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, children being exploited, young women being exploited, whether 75 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: they're adults or not, and all of this is sort 76 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: of in play or alleged to be in play in 77 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: some kind of capacity here, and it's just this game 78 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: of hey, you can't release it this way, you got 79 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: to do it that way. Don't vote for this, you 80 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: got to vote for that, And It's like, why, that's 81 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: very bizarre, and it's a really horrible look for all 82 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: the parties because they keep seemingly positive. It seems like 83 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: they're posturing for what's the best spin that I can 84 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: put on this? How does this help me the best? 85 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: The only the only thing that I could come up 86 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: with is why they had to vote on it, Why 87 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: it has to be a law that is to protect 88 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: the victims. Well, okay, many of them have already come out. 89 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Yet they're not saying any of their abusers' names. 90 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Well, and this is what, like, other than the one 91 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: woman who was abused who wrote the tell all and 92 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: then tragically committed suicide. Yeah, who are these people? Did 93 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: you they not know them? Did they not? Are they obscure? 94 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what the America public is look at this, going, Okay, 95 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: we know this guy did something right because he had 96 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: this island and he was shipping these girls, and we 97 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: know these girls existed, and so we know he was 98 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: doing something. We also know he was hyper connected into 99 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: very powerful circles. See, he clearly had a relationship with 100 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, he had a relationship with Donald Trump in 101 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: some capacity, the former Prince Andrew like so we know 102 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: something was going on, we know it wasn't good. We 103 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: deserve to know the answers, but nobody, including it seems 104 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: like the victims themselves or the alleged victims themselves, can 105 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: provide a clear cut here's who it was, here's who 106 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: was doing it, here's what was and then people are 107 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: just going. 108 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to mister forced. 109 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, the mystery that surrounds all this is part of 110 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: the like lure is not the right word, but the intrigue, 111 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I guess is people saying what actually took place here 112 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and who did it take place with? 113 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: It's it's obvious clearly Epstein he was running a sex 114 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: trafficking operation, right. 115 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's somebody. 116 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: But as this information comes out, though it's on he 117 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: had a pipeline to the White House, to rich powerful people, 118 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: Wall Street, Silicon Valley, professors at Harvard, the Royals, So 119 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: there's much more than just sex trafficking that's going on there. 120 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean he was clearly, you're right, you're right, 121 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: and this is but I think this is We're focus 122 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: on Jeffrey Epstein because it was so high profile, and 123 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: then obviously it took on a new life of its 124 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: own when he allegedly committed suicide and all of that 125 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: other stuff, but the idea that really gross, disgusting people 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: have access to people of power and influence. Harvey Weinstein 127 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: has entered the chat Hello, like this happens all the time. 128 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: These politicians are in large part surrounded by Oh I 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: can't say that we're crap bags. They're surrounded by really 130 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: horrible people. They're surrounded by wealthy individuals, many of them 131 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: highly flawed individuals in their personal lives. And that's the 132 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: cesspool that is Washington. It's like, I think Jeffrey Epstein 133 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: is probably I'm not gonna say pales in comparison does 134 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: some of the other people they associate with. But I 135 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: think if you knew the full stories of some of 136 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the people that they accept money from and go to 137 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: parties with and hang around with, Epstein would probably just 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: be another guy in many cases, another guy in the line. 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: One of the many How did the story go from 140 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: it's on Pambondi's desk to releasing that tranche with the influencers, 141 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: to it's a hoax, to it could be national security? 142 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: Like which one is it? What's the story? 143 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Well? And that is a part of the intrigue, right, 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: That's what the public wants to know is how could 145 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: you make in the case of Donald Trump, how could 146 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: you make something an issue for years and say I'm 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: going to definitively fill in the blank, and then you 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: get in there and you don't do it. That's part 149 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: of what's been working against Donald Trump, as he was 150 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: so adamant about it. Look, should Joe Biden have released Absolutely? 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Should the Democrats have released it when they had full 152 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: power of the federal government. Absolutely, And this is in 153 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: no way in their defense, because there's no defense for 154 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: not doing it, But they didn't make it a campaign issue. 155 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Trump made it for years, a front and center campaign issue. 156 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: And so you do wonder did they not release this 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: stuff because they got in there and realized we don't 158 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: have it, and now it's going to look like we 159 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: over promised and under delivered. Or are they not releasing 160 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: it because there's stuff in there that is national from 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: a national security standpoint that people think, you know, he 162 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: was Masad or whatever. Is that part of it, or 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: is that that the names would be so damaging to 164 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: both sides that both sort of share in this sort 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: of conviction to not let it out there because it'll 166 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: make everybody look bad. I don't know what it is, 167 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: and that's why people want to get to the bottom 168 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: of it. 169 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: I do want to make a correction. You had mentioned 170 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: that it was the House that passed. Both chambers passed it. 171 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: So it's now past the Senate. It has passed the. 172 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Senate as well, so now it's going to land on 173 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's desk, and he has said that he's, you know, 174 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: he's going to sign it. The exact timing that's uncertain 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 2: because under the Constitution, the president now has ten days 176 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: excluding Sundays, to sign or veto a bill after it 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: passes the Congress. 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: It is also sort of a if you're a you know, 179 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: a high profile person or a person of trust, or 180 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: or you know, certainly a public officeholder, or like I said, 181 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: just somebody of trust, that if you are hit with 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: an allegation, then of all something like this, because there 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: are various levels of scandal or allegation or whatever, this 184 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: is about as bad as something can get. But if 185 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: you're someone who's is somehow connected to an allegation of 186 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: scandal involving something like this, and you didn't do anything wrong, 187 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: the best thing is just put it all out there, 188 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: even if it makes you look bad. When you're dealing 189 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: with human sex trafficking or petifically things like you know, 190 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: child pornography or pedophilia or whatever. If you're connected to 191 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: somebody who did something but you didn't do anything wrong, 192 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: you just got to take the momentary hit on something 193 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: like that and wait it out because that'll r story. 194 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: It may look bad for your day. Hey, I was 195 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: a hyper connected or in the case of Trump, but 196 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: you know I was around this guy, right, I had 197 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: a business relationship with him or whatever. Yeah, okay, it's 198 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: a news cycle for a day. But then here's the 199 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: whole truth. I did have anything to do with any 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: of this. I saw the guy, you know, I got 201 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: rid of him, what he was doing or a legship done, 202 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: I got rid of him. Blah blah blah. And then it, 203 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, like it runs its course, right because there's 204 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: no evidence you did anything wrong, because you didn't do 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: anything wrong. And then you just go about your and go. 206 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: I made a bad decision being connected to a creep, 207 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: who amongst us in our lives hadn't made a bad 208 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: decision around somebody. We've had a friendship or a relationship 209 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: with her, you know, whatever right that runs its course. 210 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: The problem is so many people have deflected and denied 211 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: and stymiat on this that now the American public keeps 212 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: saying there has to be more, There has to be more, 213 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: there has to be people that are protecting and it's 214 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: just like fed itself, and it may be far bigger 215 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: than it actually is because of the way it's been handled. 216 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: So the Speaker of the House came out and he 217 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: said that he was disappointed that the Senate approved the 218 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: bill without making any changes, like he he. 219 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: Wants to redact things. 220 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: And now they're saying it's national security, but I thought 221 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: it was a hoax just a few days ago. 222 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. Nobody can keep their story straight. 223 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: And the other problem is when you get something like 224 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: this and it gets so big, it starts gets confusing 225 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: to people. That we kind of reached a point where 226 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: it's almost Kennedy assassination level. Think about all the documents 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: that they've released now about Kennedy that basically everything's out there. 228 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: There's nothing that proves anything other than Lee Harvey Oswald 229 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: that sorry refutes the story, like there's no concrete anything 230 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: that's been released that refutes the prevailing official story, which 231 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: is Lee Harvey Oswald was the gunman who assassinated John F. Kennedy. 232 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter at this point because it's been 233 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: so long and that it was so much was deflected 234 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: and denied and pushed back on that it doesn't even 235 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: It takes on a life of its own where people 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: just formed their own opinion. And I sort of think 237 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: that's where Epstein is that you may not get some 238 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: smoking gun of Hey, Bill Clinton was on this flight 239 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and this happened, or this guy was on this flight 240 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: and this happened. But because it's been in such a 241 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: shadow of secrecy for so long, people think they think 242 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: something happened, and you're not going to convince him of others. 243 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well, Donald Trump, he was in the Oval Office 244 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: and he did mention Bill Clinton and also Larry Summers. 245 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: As far as the Epstein file says, I have nothing 246 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of 247 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: my club many years ago because I thought he was 248 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: a sick perverb. But I guess I would turn out 249 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: to be right. But you know who does have Bill Clinton? 250 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: Larry Summers, who ran Harvard was with him every single night, 251 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his 252 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: island many times. I never did Andrew Weissman here. All 253 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk 254 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: about those people. 255 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: So Larry Summers, by the way, addressed it in one 256 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: of his classes. He's a teacher at Harvard, professor at Harvard, 257 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: and he has said he's going to step back now, 258 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: but he also resigned from his board of director's position 259 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: at open AI. 260 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well'll be faster to see what comes out of it.