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But from Locked on Pacers 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Tony East joining us now Tony Last night, I thought 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: a game where Benedict Mathern continued to show that, you know, 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: he is obviously a special player and a guy that 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: has a unique ability to score the basketball. I still 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: wonder and maintain, is Benedict Mathern a guy that is 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: going to be that kind of a player for the 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Pacers beyond this season? 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: That's the question, And like they can't even answer it 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: right now, right because what they've needed him to be 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: right now is not that type of player. Like all 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: the questions we talked aboutout when it comes to his 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: bed and how he'll be used for the Pacers next year, 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, when they're presumably running and gunning again, they 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: can't answer. They can't they haven't been able to play 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: that way, and they've needed Ben Matheren to just be 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: Ben Mathern. Go cook, go be your defender, Go draw 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: falgo score some points. Honestly, and maybe this is just 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: matched by good shot making and like actually winning a game, 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: but last night felt more like a blend. Like it 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: didn't feel I didn't There was no stretch of the 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: game where Ben Matherin was just like in takeover mode 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: and had ten points in forty five seconds or something, 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: and he still finished with twenty four and had the 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: biggest defensive play of the game in a win. So that, 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: like last night's game, is the type of game I 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: think that both parties will hope to see more of 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: where he still leads the team in scoring and has 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: an excellent night, but also does a bunch of other 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: things the team is really proud of. Like after the 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: game where Carlisle obviously talked about the chase down stopped 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: or whatever it was. I don't know if he actually 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: blocked it, but also mentioned that during the game he 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: said to mathering, Hey, like, you're not defending well enough. 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: You to do this and that better, and he thought 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: he did, right. That's that's the kind of stuff that 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: will matter for him beyond scoring twenty four points and 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: will be valuable to the Pacers next season when Haliburn 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: is on the smiling, glistening, earing Haliburn and is back 46 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: on the floor again. 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: You know the Tony watching that game last night, I 48 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: think for the first time really this year, they got 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: out of Jay Huff what they were hoping for. I mean, 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's if you get that right, 51 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: you're you're more than thrilled because he's hitting threes. He 52 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: at one point had i think two blocks that started 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: to transition. And it's been a while since well it's 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: not been since he's been here, that we've seen that 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: level of play. Is that what they truly believe he 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: can be or was that the anomaly and even above 57 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: and beyond what they expected. 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably above and beyond the expectation. Twenty 59 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: That was his career highst twenty two and he had 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: twenty Like that was one of his best scoring games ever. 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Like you were there, Jay Huff took heat check threes, right, Like, 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: how often is that going to happen? And oh, by 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: the way, Jay Huff took he checked threes And I 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: was like, Yep, he should take some heat tectaees right now, 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: he was feeling it to that extent. I think what 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: they hope for more like they thought there'd be more 67 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: consistency with the shot, certainly, and I I mean maybe 68 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: not as much anymore. The season's been going for a month, 69 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: but I still think he's working into shape with how 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: the pacers playing, how much a movement is required of him, 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: which is atypical for basically any system. If you're big 72 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: on the pacers, not only are you moving defensively, but 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: like on offens or at the top of the key, 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: you're getting the ball side to side like you're involved 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: a lot. Your mind is racing, your body's racing. It's tiring, 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: it's exhausting. And I we wrote about it before the season, 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: like that was a thing that they noted about him, 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: was conditioning was a thing that mattered in the negative 79 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: way for him early. And so I think he's getting that, 80 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: like more lyft in his legs. You saw it on 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: the dunk obviously what peaklyft jhunk jay huff excuse me 82 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: could look like and the threes were falling. But the 83 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: thing that I think that also got him closer to 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: the impact they maybe hoped was possible when they traded 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: a pick for him, was they stuck him in the 86 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: around the basket more with that zone defense, and he 87 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: doesn't have to move around as much. Then his natural 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: gifts of being very tall and actually you know, having 89 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: a long wing span of block shots is more useful 90 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: when he's around the basket more often if he's moving, 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: if he's pulled away from the rim, that's not as 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: valuable or something the Pacers can rely on. So I 93 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: think that shift was big for him strategically. We'll see 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: how much they can go to that. But they were 95 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: in zone a lot in Detroit too, and of course 96 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: it's going to help and make you look really good 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: when you make shots. But look, I mean, Isaiah Jackson 98 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: was pretty good against Golden State, they almost beat Minnesota, 99 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: and Tony Bradley's best game of the season, Jay Huff's 100 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: best game. They beat Charlotte, Like it's not a coincidence 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: that the center position when those when they get forty 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: plus good minutes out of those guys they look good 103 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: at on lock Kyle of the whole team. So that 104 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: was I think that the biggest noteworthy part of what 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Jay Huff did. 106 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, there have been some transactions to 107 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: report involving the Pacers within the last hour or so. Correct, Tony, Yes. 108 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: It's been the whole morning. See how fun. Yes, So 109 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Nei Smith mists his third game since his injury 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 2: last night, which means now they're eligible for a hardship again. 111 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: So that the plan right now is for them to 112 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: sign Garrison Matthews. 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: He's a wing. 114 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: Who's played for the Hawks most recently, the Wizards and 115 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: the Rockets. I think good shooter, great shooter. He just 116 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: gets him up. He takes a lot of threes. As 117 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: percentage for his career is like thirty eight thirty nine ish. 118 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: They need shot making badly. We'll see how much he 119 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: actually figures to play. But any depth on the wing 120 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: with for v Outni Smith out topping out among others 121 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: is valuable for this team right now makes good sense there. 122 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: And then before that in the morning, we learned that 123 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, they have this hardship deal. That's what Jeremiah 124 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: Robinson role has been on. But he can't sign another 125 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: ten day. You can only sign two ten days with 126 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: a team in a season. So if they wanted to 127 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: keep him, which they should have, right. I mean, everybody 128 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: who's watched him understands exactly why the Pacers like him. 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: He guards a little bit, he's got size, he moves well, 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: and he's been awesome on the glass. Him and Bed 131 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: Matheren are their best two rebounding non centers. He's averaged 132 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: over six the game. He had fifteen in one game. 133 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Like that's been very valuable. 134 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's played well. 135 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, they keep He's playing sixteen to twenty 136 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: minutes every game right now, and like even if Nei 137 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: Smith comes back, you can foresee him being their tenth 138 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: guy and he's only twenty five. Like that, that's the 139 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: kind of age player that if they're any good this 140 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: year's Pacers should win. 141 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Is on right. 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: And so because they couldn't sign him to that hardship 143 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: that they're presumably giving to Garrison Matthews, they had to 144 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: find another way to keep him. So the player there 145 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: is to wave Monte Morris, who they've had for two weeks. 146 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm over explaining all this, but you know when they 147 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: signed him, McConnell and themhard were injured. They needed a 148 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: point guard. He played fifteen minutes his first game twenty 149 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: minutes a second game. Then McConnell came back and his 150 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: minutes have gone away that he's only playing garbage time. 151 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Last night, the game you were at for the first time, 152 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: he didn't play at all, So his role is way 153 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: less needed than it was where they signed him. Jeremia 154 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: robinsonerroals needed way more than when they additionally signed him, 155 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: so that makes good. This all makes good sense for 156 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: their current needs and injuries. It's just crazy how many 157 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: times they've had to make a transaction within still the 158 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: first month of their season, given how hurt they've been. 159 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: But this all makes good sense to me. Their team 160 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: is at least a team. They had a real rotation 161 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: last night that like made good sense forty eight minutes over. 162 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Explain is my middle name? You know that? Right? 163 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: I never know what like what detailed people do want? 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Do they just want hear the names they're signing? Do 165 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: they want the why what am I doing? But I 166 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: if you explain it, I think people East are like, 167 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: oh okay, they're not just trying to guess who's good 168 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: and who's not, like they actually there's always good reasons. 169 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Well, it's so usunny rules, it's so funny Tony, because 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: one thing that we'll never know in sport, you know, 171 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: there are guys that, like I look back to the 172 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: post brawl era or the transitioning from one coach to 173 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the next era. You know that the the Pacers are 174 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: a unique franchise because they had this this level of 175 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: consistency and the Reggie Davis brothers, Rick Smith's era, and 176 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: they pretty seamlessly transitioned that by mixing in young talent 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: with Al Harrington and Bender and then our test and 178 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of shifting it with Reggie Miller being the transitional 179 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: piece right from one era of player into the next. 180 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: And so we were unaccustomed to with the exception of 181 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: the brawl years, ten day contracts and you know, exemption 182 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: rules and guys that you look at and you go, wow, 183 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: I really like this piece, and then you look back 184 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: later and you go, yeah, I mean he was only 185 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: there because they had to have a body on the roster. 186 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: So figuring out which the reason I think it's the 187 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: explanation is necessary is because at times you do wonder, Okay, 188 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: is this a guy they're signing because they believe in 189 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: what he can do and they're willing to kick the 190 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: tires on it, or is this a guy they're signing 191 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: because they need a guy? You know what I mean? 192 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: There is a. 193 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: Difference, and we've seen so bisically. Yes, they've been so 194 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: hurt this year that it's like, you have a poll straight, 195 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: you can come to Dallas tonight. Great, You're like, it's 196 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: not that's a level of injury that they've needed a 197 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: level avenger replacement. Excuse me, that they've needed to like 198 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: field a team that makes sense. And like the Minnesota game, 199 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: they started two centers right, like, and it was a 200 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: two centers who didn't start like the game before and 201 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Emphis that guy got cut the next game, like it's 202 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: just been chasing a circle of who's heard at this spot, 203 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: who's heard at this spot, and all this stuff, and 204 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: you know, you got to feel the team that makes sense. 205 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: They're doing their best because even if it's not necessarily 206 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: for like a try to win reason, and they are 207 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: trying to win, you still need players playing in a 208 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: role that makes sense to like look good. If you're 209 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: playing a wing at point guard or a huge guy 210 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: at the four. Sure, maybe it's scraped you buy for 211 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: five minutes successfully, but the rest of the players around 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: that guy look worse. They're making their mistakes or they 213 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: just it doesn't you know. They just that's why they're 214 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 2: trying to make a team that makes sense, even with 215 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: their injuries, even if it's guys that might be around 216 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: beyond this season. So it's all made good sense to me. 217 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: Every time. It's just like, I mean, every time I 218 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: touch my computer this month, it's like, okay, right about 219 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: an injury or a transaction because of injury. But they 220 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: have to do it. 221 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: They just have to, Okay. Lastly, Tony, I came back. 222 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: Today's is today Thursday? Eddie, Yes, Today's Thursday. So late 223 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: on Tuesday night I come back. I'm walking through the 224 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: airport and I look around and I'm like, oh wait 225 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: a minute, and I figured it out, and the Noblesville 226 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Boom is walking through the airport. Clearly they had flown 227 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: commercially back from I believe Iowa. Now, they're not exactly 228 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: racking up wins, don't get me wrong. However, they've got 229 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: two guys on the roster to me that are very intriguing, 230 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: and one of them is R. J. Felton and the 231 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: other is Kyle Guy. And Kyle Guy has played well 232 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: for them. You and I talked about this when I 233 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: saw you at the Noblesville Boom game. But I think 234 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: he's maintained it to the point where he's he's got 235 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: to bounce about him. The former Laurence Central and Virginia star, 236 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: who of course played the NBA, played for Sacramento notably 237 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: in most is he somebody that eventually could get opportunity 238 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: with the Pacers? 239 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: Man? 240 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean every year they've done almost every year, I guess. 241 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: I think every season since this installment of the two 242 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: way contract, the Pacers have called up somebody. I think 243 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to list every single one year because 244 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: I'd be a giant waste to everybody's time. But they 245 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: have either you know, provided that carrot or used the 246 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: G League as a legitimate resource for team building, like 247 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: every year, whether that is what you said, Like last 248 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: year was Julia Locofork got that ten day and you know, 249 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: right after the All Star break like he was playing 250 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: good center minutes for them. And this kind of season 251 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: where things are really sideways, is a good chance to 252 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: look at someone who's in that situation, and Kyle Guy 253 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: has been I think their second leading scored Jalen's loss 254 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: and scoring like a billion points a game right now 255 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: for the Boom, even though they can't win a game. 256 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, certainly if he keeps playing well, I don't 257 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 2: think he's too way eligible, which hurts, uh, these pursuits 258 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: of you know, getting a guy a call up from 259 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: through the league to the NBA. But yeah, he's he's 260 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: playing really well, over twenty two points a game. And 261 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this when you got back. 262 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: He got invited to the Musa's World Cup qualifying roster 263 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: for so they do like a different team every month 264 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: for like these sessions of when the qualifying games are. 265 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: So that's a huge ass for the Boom, right they 266 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: can't win a game and they're one of their best 267 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: players has gone for now I think three games in 268 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: a week of practices and such. But he's playing that 269 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: well that you got that kind of opportunity, So yeah, 270 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: certainly worth keeping an eye on the yeah, ur J Felton, 271 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he's played yet. I think 272 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: he's injured so far like they've been. They too have 273 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,239 Speaker 2: been working that game. 274 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: In their opener, their home opener for certain. 275 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think he's played 276 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: in every game for them, they've been they've been like 277 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: signing guys so they can feel the roster level avert. 278 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: So it's been it's been a challenge for them, and 279 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: they already had to sign somebody because they were losing 280 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Kyle guy. But you know, presumably he'll be in the 281 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: mix for that could get a call up. Situation that 282 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: the facers always find themselves in, and that's why watching 283 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: the boom was fun. You never know which one of 284 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: these guys one day is going to be What of 285 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: those facers are helpful? They just had a I think 286 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: they I don't know if CBA is the right word, 287 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: but the G League Players Association finally agreed to like 288 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: a real term of you know, labor laws with the 289 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: G League, and so I think the minimum is forty 290 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: five to fifty thousand, and if you're a two A guy, 291 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: you're making like five hundred something, and usually it's somewhere 292 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: in between where it's a little more than forty five. 293 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: But you're also getting like a bonus from your NBA team, 294 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: and there's travel for DMS and all that kind of stuff. 295 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's getting more and more every year. 296 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: By the way, this weekend, two opportunities to see the 297 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Boom up at the arena Innovation Mile. And the fun 298 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: thing about that is the Innovation Mile. You get to 299 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: see all of it because it takes twenty five minutes 300 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: to drive that mile to get into the arena. 301 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: As Tony, park at the hotel across the highway and 302 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: walk and you'll make it a little faster. 303 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the only thing. Because the arena is 304 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: all awesome, the seats, it's very affordable. It's a great 305 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: chance to come out and watch. Saturday and Sunday. Sunday 306 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: is a three o'clock game. Saturday night seven o'clock, the 307 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Boom are in action at home. Tony appreciate the time 308 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: as always. 309 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: You got it. 310 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 311 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Thank you, Tony East joining us on the program. 312 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's get right to it here on our 313 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: Thursday road trip. One of the great cities that you 314 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: can visit. It is very similar to Indianapolis in many areas. 315 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: The plaza is a fabulous shopping and dining area and 316 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: it goes without saying. Tons of barbecue to enjoy in 317 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City and tailgating galore. If you're going to Arrowhead 318 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: to watch the Colts and the Chiefs. Jesse Newell joining 319 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: us from the Athletic in Kansas City to discuss exactly 320 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: that on the Java House Peel and Port guest line 321 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: and Jesse, I'll get right to it. The Chiefs have 322 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: dropped two in a row. But there's not a huge 323 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: sin in losing to Buffalo and to Denver. But what 324 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: can be learned for Indianapolis from those games that maybe 325 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a bluep on what exactly 326 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: you need to do against the Chiefs. 327 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, a few things I would say, probably separately 328 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: from each of those matchups. But number one, I would 329 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: just say that you're probably getting the Chiefs a little 330 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 4: bit of a vulnerable time when it comes to just 331 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: clutch plays. You know, we know the Chief's history last 332 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: year twelve to zero one score games, and this year 333 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: they're own five. And for whatever reason right now, they 334 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: have performed, as I wrote it the Athletics this week 335 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: as one of the most unclutched teams in NFL history 336 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: so far. I mean, you look at these situations like 337 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: within one score late, so I've start in the final 338 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: five minutes and third downs for the defense and the 339 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: Chiefs had seven scenarios, they get up six first downs 340 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: and thirteen yards per play. So those type of moments. 341 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: If the Chiefs get into that this week, I think 342 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: Guy's gonna be kind of looking around, going are they 343 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: going to make this play in a touch moment like 344 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: they have in so many past years. I'd say, going 345 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: back to the Buffalo game too, the Chiefs are vulnerable 346 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to running the football if you say 347 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: committed to it and you keep the game close. James 348 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: Cook had a big game against them, and the chief 349 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: defensive line is not great at holding up agin it's 350 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: the run of their Winemackers flow downhill, their safeties and 351 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: corners do a good job of playing physically and flowing downhill. 352 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: But that s that's up. The other part, which I 353 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: know Indianapolis fans are very aware of and very familiar 354 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: with with the shangsike in offense, which is play action 355 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: and the Chiefs have been worse in the NFL when 356 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: it comes to defending play action passes. So there's definitely 357 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: a path there, a vision there. I'm sure for the 358 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: Colts offense to say they can have some success against 359 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, but they're gonna have to avoid that knockout blow, 360 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: and obviously the chef's gonna be hungry at five and 361 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: five playing another game here at the Rois Stadium. 362 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: An area of vulnerability for Indianapolis Jesse, truth be told, 363 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones and his inability to protect the football 364 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: if he's getting rushed. That looks like Pittsburgh kind of 365 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: exposed that blueprint and Atlanta tried to take advantage as well. 366 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: How is Kansas City at getting to the quarterback. 367 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: For the course of the season not that great. I 368 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: think they had a pretty good game last week against Denver, 369 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: which Denver, similarly to Indianapolis, is a very good offensive line, 370 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: and the Chiefs did get some pressure early. I just 371 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: think you know how these things work at mile high 372 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: and in power field, which is, if you get a 373 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: bunch of plays stacked together in the second half, they 374 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: altitude gets to you and you get tired. And the 375 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: Chief's offense didn't help with two straight free announced in 376 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, and the chief surelook gas there at 377 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: the end of the game, and again they didn't come 378 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 4: through on the big plays a third and fifteen, they 379 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 4: gave up the conversion at third and five, they gave 380 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: up a conversion and did not get there at the 381 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: right moment. But you know, Chris Jones has been a 382 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: very down year for him. He showed up and flashes 383 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: against Denver last week, but it's been inconsistent and the 384 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 4: effort hasn't always been there late games, especially when you 385 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 4: get stuble teams. I think George Carloftsis is having a 386 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 4: better year than people think on the edge, but he's 387 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: more of a pressure guy than a stack guy, and 388 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: sometimes it take him a little bit to get there, 389 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: but still I think a little bit underrated nationally. And 390 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: Charles the man who's one guy to watch number ninety 391 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: for the Chiefs. He's been kind of a no show 392 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: most of the season, but he had a pretty good 393 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 4: game against Denver last week when it came to pressures. 394 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: But those are the main guys they have. And we 395 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: know seeesig No he love to blitz, but they haven't 396 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: blitzed as much lately. So it'll be something to watch 397 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: in this game to see if the Chiefs can't get 398 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: some heat on Daniel Jones, but that might have to 399 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: be manufactured from Sea Stagnolo. In a week after letting 400 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: bo Nicks pick them apart in the final couple drives. 401 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 4: I would think the Chiefs might be more aggressive this. 402 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: Week, Jesse Nuwell, my guest, he's with the Athletic in 403 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City covering the Chiefs. He's on the Java House 404 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line, Jesse. Yesterday I was having 405 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: the discussion about the Chiefs on the offensive side of 406 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: the ball, and my first thought was, yeah, listen, Travis 407 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: Kelsey's been a huge part of their offense, but he's 408 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: an older player now and perhaps his slow down has 409 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: slowed down their offense. And then you know, I was 410 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of corrected of hey, man, he's their leading receiver. 411 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: It's the fact perhaps that Mahomes is not spreading the 412 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: ball around in space the way that we are typically 413 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: used to seeing. Is that latter part a safe or 414 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: a fair assessment? 415 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: So I think this Chiefs offense is like one of 416 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: the weirdest things you'll ever see, just based off of 417 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 4: you look at the underlying production compared to the record. 418 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: And like I said, I wrote a story this week 419 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: about how unsluched the Chiefs have been that applied to 420 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: the offense as well. We talked about that three and 421 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: out the Chiefs had at the end of last game. 422 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: I mean, how many times to the Chiefs you give 423 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: the all back in the high game to Patrick Mahomes 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: with four minutes last You don't expect the three and 425 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: out and you expect them to march down the fields, 426 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 4: get down to the five yard line, kick the field 427 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: roal and win the game. And it didn't happen last week. 428 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm searching through some true media sports numbers. 429 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: You guys will appreciate these numbers because you can look 430 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 4: at the percentage of drive that the team scores on. Okay, 431 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: I was going to the last decade, right, So there's 432 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: three one hundred and twenty seasons, so thirty two teams, 433 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: ten seasons. Each of teams, you're looking at, how often 434 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: have they scored on possession? Number one on that list 435 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: in the last decade is this year's Indianapolis Colts. They're right, 436 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: I think at fifty eight percent this year. So great offense. 437 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 4: We know Syde can do some great things with them. 438 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 4: This Chief offense has scored on forty nine percent of 439 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: its possession. That ranks thirteenth out of three hundred and 440 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 4: twenty teams in the last decade. So there's just this 441 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: weird disconnect based off of the Chiefs. They're touch down 442 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: percentage on drive this year is twentieth out of the 443 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: last three in or twenty teams over the past decades. 444 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: Their EPA per play is the second highest of the 445 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes era, only you know, second place is the 446 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: rookie year when he came out. It's not his rookie year, 447 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: it's his first year as a starter when he was 448 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: setting all sorts of records in the league. So on 449 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: a down by down basis, the chief offense to look 450 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 4: pretty good and the gut roch Rice back and they're 451 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: getting pretty healthy, and left tackle Josh Simmons is back 452 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: and started last week. So it's weird, guys. I mean, 453 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: it's weird that this team hasn't produced wins and again 454 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: just hasn't come through in the clutch because they still 455 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: are very difficult to deal with. But as far as 456 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: spreading it around, you know, Mahomes have missed on some 457 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: deep shots. They've missed on some crucial settings, and right 458 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 4: now the intermedia has kind of gone away. They either 459 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: throw short and they throw deep, and they haven't hit 460 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: on enough of those deep shots down the field. So 461 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 4: it's been kind of weird. It's been weird to watch, 462 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: but I guess that efficiency wise, there's no way that 463 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: rivals this year's Colts when it comes to scoring and 464 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: scoring on each one of their possessions. But the Chiefs 465 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: are up there as well, and kind of unexpectedly up 466 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: there as well. So someone to watch this game. This 467 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 4: should be two really good offenses going at it, and 468 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: if they get rolling the way I think they can 469 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: get rolling, there is might be a shootout. 470 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: In the end. 471 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Jesse Daniel Jones and Shane Stike, and you touched on 472 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Jesse Noll of the Athletic. You touched on the Colts 473 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: offense and their efficiency, and I think part of that 474 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: is because Daniel Jones is and Shane Stiken have suddenly 475 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: become like the married couple that can finish each other's sentences, Right, 476 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid have had that forever? Do 477 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: they still? 478 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 479 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: I mean I do think they do. I think they 480 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: have that. It's like I said, or. 481 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: Is that is that a dumb Is that a dumb question? 482 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: Or does it? Is that something that's come up? 483 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: It's I don't think it's a dumb question. So three 484 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: weeks ago, Patrick Mahomes was the leader in MVP odds, 485 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: so I saw the sports and now he's down to 486 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: like plus two thousands. And again, there's just some things 487 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: we're not used to seeing from the Chiefs, which is 488 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 4: they're on nationality, they're on prime time, everybody's watching, and 489 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: they haven't come through in the situations that matter the most. 490 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at the Denver game, for 491 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: the chief first possession, Mahomes has two guys wide open 492 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: down the field for touchdowns and misses both of them. 493 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 4: And if you hit on that and get up step 494 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: nothing on Denver, that game could play out differently. Once again, 495 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 4: you go back to the last two possessions, the defense 496 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 4: desperately needs for the Chiefs to get off the field 497 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: and to give them a little bit breather or to 498 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 4: stay on the field, give them a little breather, and 499 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: she just goes three and out and three and out 500 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: and go backwards on their final possession. So it's about 501 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: matching up those things in the right moments and being 502 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: very detail oriented and those sorts of things. But I 503 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: think Mahomes is having a good year. I think he's 504 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: been better than a year ago. I know Travis Kelsey 505 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 4: said on his podcast this week he thinks this year's 506 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: version of the chief would beat last year's version of 507 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, who ended up in the Super Bowl and 508 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 4: ended up fifteen and two. So I don't think I 509 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: disagree with him. I think Vegas Markets would agree with 510 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: him that this year's scene would be favorite over last 511 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: year's team. But like I said, they've got to come 512 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 4: through with it, and you hear in this building go 513 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 4: often this week is like they've got to go to it. 514 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't just talk about it and talk 515 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: about how you're efficient and talk about how you feel 516 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 4: good about your offense and the good things happening. At 517 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: some point, you got to go out and make a 518 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: play on a first and tent when the game's on 519 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 4: the line, or a third and fifteen defensively when the 520 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: game's on the line. And that's where the team has 521 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: been lacking. But it seems pretty looky to be honest, 522 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: I just don't think they forgot how to do this 523 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 4: in the span of one year. So the sample size 524 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: is not on the side. Right now, they have seven 525 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: games to turn it around. But I don't think there's 526 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: something fatally flawed about the Chiefs offense. If you're asking that, 527 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: I think Mahomes is good. I think Andy Reid is good. 528 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: I just think they got to put it together in 529 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: the right moments, and if they do that, then I 530 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 4: think it'll make a playoffs and they'll be a tough 531 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: out for any team out there that they potentially face 532 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: in the AFC. 533 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, and most importantly, for Colts fans that are 534 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: going to head to Kansas City after they get done 535 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: reading Jesse Newell in the Athletic to get ready for 536 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: the game, they want to make sure that they do 537 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: what to soak in the atmosphere of Arrowhead or to 538 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: enjoy the best restaurant in the Kansas City area. 539 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: Ah, good one. You guys talked about the Plaza. I 540 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: actually went with my wife on my so some good 541 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: spots down there. I say, if you're going barbecue, can't 542 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: meet Casey Joe's or Q thirty nine. Of the two 543 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: top ones there, I Q thirty nine burn in. I 544 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 4: can't do much better than that. And then Jill getting 545 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: just get here early. And one of the best parts 546 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 4: and actually the worst parts about my job is that 547 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: when I pull on the lot, I have to go 548 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: straight to the press box and avoid all the great 549 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: smells and the people around me having excessive time. So 550 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: get here early and be sure to enjoy the sites 551 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: and sounds and smells of the scenery and enjoy the 552 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: experience the Arrow and somehow, some way has become like 553 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: the third or fourth oldest stadium in the NFL. So 554 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: it's historic because of the people around it and because 555 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: of the big deal it is around here. So yeah, 556 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: take that all in and we'll see, I think it. 557 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 4: We'll see two offenses on Sunday that could happen success. 558 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: We have seen games in the past where the punter 559 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: didn't even have to show up between the Colts and 560 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, So we'll see if that happens on Sunday. Jesse 561 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Newle and the Athletic will have it all cover. Jesse 562 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Hey, thanks guys, Jesse Newle joining us on 563 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and poor guest line again Java 564 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: house dot com the website enter in my name, Jake Jkae. 565 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Just simply that will work, and that will get you 566 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: the bundle right there in front of you. In terms 567 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: of the peel and poor pods, you will get Columbian Coffee, 568 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: which is my favorite of them than the Liquid Science 569 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: Hydration perfect for any workout, especially after soccer practice or 570 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: whatever it might be for the kids. And then also 571 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: the Wrangler Energy Pod. You can use Jake twenty five 572 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: for twenty five percent off. Matt Taylor is the voice 573 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: of the Colts. Joins us now in the Java House 574 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: Peel and Poor Guest Line Colts and Chiefs coming up 575 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday at Arrowhead and Matt, I realized that you 576 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: talk to the guys when I was gone. But I'm 577 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: curious of this, strictly curious because I went through it yesterday. 578 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: When you came back from Germany. You were jet lagged 579 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: for how long? 580 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: Not too bad, to be honest with you. To me, 581 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: the experience is way tougher going there than it is 582 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: coming back. 583 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: For sure, There's no question about that. 584 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. So like when we landed, it was hard. 585 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: So you know, from my an itinerary standpoint, we got 586 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: there at I think we landed Friday, German time at 587 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: ten thirty, and then got to the hotel, settled in 588 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: about one and then had to be on a bus 589 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: by three and go to practice and then you know, 590 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: do media availability and some stuff after that. So, like 591 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: Thursday back in the States and then Friday in Germany 592 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: was like one big day, like one big time work. 593 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: I think I was awake like I don't know, like 594 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: forty four out of the forty eight hours in that 595 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: time span. It felt like so to me, you just 596 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: had to grind through, you know, Friday in Germany to 597 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: then go to bed at a normal time, German time. 598 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: That's always the key to success. So it was painful 599 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: on Friday, but once I woke up Saturday German time, 600 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 3: I was pretty much okay, I felt normal. 601 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. The thing here's what 602 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: happened to me, though, And I don't know what time 603 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: you guys back, but I flew back, and I guess 604 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying this just if anybody's gonna, you know, is 605 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: planning a trip. The strategy of it. When we came back, 606 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: we flew back in daylight hours, which is pretty cool 607 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: because you get back and it's like seven o'clock in 608 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: the evening here in Indie, and so you're like, okay, 609 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'll stay up for two hours and then 610 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: go to bed. The problem is I went to bed 611 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and was dog tired. But then my body woke up 612 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: at like four o'clock in the morning because I thought 613 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: it was ten in the morning over there, and it 614 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: took me yesterday then, so it took me a day basically. 615 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think what had I think what went 616 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: in our favor was we left after the game, and 617 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: so about midway through the flight coming home from Germany, 618 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: like in the middle of the night German time, I 619 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: was pretty wipe. That was pretty pooked. I started to 620 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: get real tired, and I don't sleep very well on planes, 621 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: so if I was in and out of sleep, you know, 622 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 3: it wasn't good sleep, you know what I mean, Like 623 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: it was totally yeah, solid. And so by the time 624 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: I got home, which we landed I think like a 625 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: twelve thirty and then had to you know, bust to 626 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 3: the back of the complex and get back in the 627 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: car something. I got back to the driveway my house 628 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: at two am, and so by that time, like I 629 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: was ready to go to bed, and I was tired anyway, 630 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: So like I felt like I was pretty pretty close 631 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 3: to like getting back on the normal Eastern time body 632 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: clock by like a half day or a full day 633 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: after that. 634 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is it's it is wild man. The time 635 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: change is a thing right now, and obviously for the 636 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Colts they're back at it now for the first time 637 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: since taking on Kansas City. We just talked with Jesse 638 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: Newell from the Athletic in Kansas City. From the Chiefs 639 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: side of things, let's begin from the Colt side of 640 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: things with this Matt from a health standpoint, they had 641 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: the time away to try to get healthy. Here. Where 642 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: do things stand in terms of who may be in 643 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: who has recently been out. 644 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest one is Charvarius Sward and another good 645 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: sign today he was out there at least in the 646 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: media portion of practice today, you know the portion where 647 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: you know, reporters can see he was out there and 648 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: yesterday was full go and then was out there today. 649 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: We'll see what the designation is later on today. Hopefully 650 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: it's another full ghost status and trending in the right 651 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: direction to maybe tomorrow or at the very latest Saturday, 652 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: being cleared to come off of injured reserve with that concussion. 653 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: But he's got to, you know, clear all the necessary 654 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: steps and things like that, so you know that's always 655 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: kind of finicky, but but he's the big one. Jake. 656 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: You know, Taekwon Lewis is still dealing with an injury, 657 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: and he's been kind of a guy that would kind 658 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: of you know, based on the injury reports and the designations, 659 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: and he's had like a little bit of a start stop, 660 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: you know, where he'd practice in full the next day, 661 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: would not practice or be limited in practice. It's kind 662 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: of been fluid on his return. Samson Abacom has a 663 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: decent chance in coming back this week. He's missed the 664 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: last three games with the knee injury. So those are 665 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: the big ones, But I think the biggest one is Ward, 666 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: just because of the potential and the excitement on what 667 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: that secondary could be with Gardner and Traverius Ward and 668 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: Kenny Moore playing the slot, especially in the last seven games, 669 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: and then you started this Sunday against the premier quarterback 670 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes and what you would need to be 671 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: able to slow down a guy like that and that offense. 672 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: It's exciting. I think we're starting to I think we're 673 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: getting the previews, you know what I mean, Like if 674 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: this was a movie trailer, this would be the trailer 675 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: of the feature film here on what the secondary could 676 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: be after the Colts have wanted it to be like 677 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: this the entire season. 678 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Which to you, Matt, do you believe is a bigger 679 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: area of I'm going to use the word concern kind 680 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: of an air quotes here, Okay, intrigue maybe is a 681 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: better word. The Colts ability to protect Daniel Jones or 682 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: the Colt's ability to try to get to Patrick Mahomes. 683 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: I think, wow, that's a great question. I think as 684 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: it relates to this game, it's getting after Patrick Mahomes 685 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: and they have done that. You know, I know this 686 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: is a different regime and a different defensive coordinator and 687 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: lou An Rumo, who by the way, has had great 688 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: individual success in his own right against Patrick Mahomes. He's 689 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: faced him six times. He's three and three, including an 690 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: AFC Championship victory in that in that sample size, but 691 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: the Colts have done a really good job when they 692 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: play a quarterback like this, they have really good lane rush, 693 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: lane integrity, and the key when you when you face 694 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is don't let him out of the pocket. 695 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: Right He's the He's got the fifth most scrambles in 696 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: the NFL this year, and he we we we watch 697 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 3: him every Sunday because they're always in prime time. They 698 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: always have the Marquee game, whether it's Sunday or Monday. 699 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: He's always out of the pocket, and he turns everything 700 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: in the backyard football and he's slinging you know, uh 701 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: passes underhand and side arm and from different you know, 702 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: arm locations and things like that. He's just a really good, savvy, 703 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: off schedule type of a quarterback. So don't give him 704 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: those opportunities. Get after him. And it's not you don't 705 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: have to sack them five times. You just can't. You 706 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: can't let them outside the pocket. That's the biggest thing. 707 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: But I think to answer your question, for the entirety 708 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: of the season, it's protecting Daniel Jones. And I looked 709 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: it up today because I was really curious about, you 710 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: know that, that same line of thinking you're on right now. 711 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: The Colts have faced so far this year. They face 712 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: the fifth most blitzes against them, And I think that's 713 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: what teams have figured out, Right, if we're gonna play 714 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: the Colts, we can't just sit back and play coverage 715 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: and only rush four because Jonathan Taylor's gonna do what 716 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: he's gonna do and Daniel Jones has shown that he's 717 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: really accurate this year, and the Colts have a diverse 718 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: set of skilled players and wide receivers and tight ends. 719 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: They're just gonna kill us if we don't just bring 720 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: pressure and try to dictate dictate terms to the Colts. 721 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: So I think that's what life is going to be 722 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: like now going forward, especially after the last two games 723 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: against Pittsburgh and Atlanta where both of those teams, primarily 724 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: the Steelers had good success getting after the Colts, creating 725 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: some turnovers, getting sacks and making it tough for the 726 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: Colts to be efficient on their drives and finishing drives 727 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: into plus territory. 728 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Who success season has been more reliant on the other, 729 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: Shane Stike in having to rely on Daniel Jones or 730 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones having to rely on Shane Steiken. 731 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: Man, I give you know, it's obviously splitting hairs right there, Jake, 732 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: but I give so much of this season in terms 733 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: of credit. I give it to Daniel Jones because we've 734 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: talked about this before. You know, this offense last year, 735 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: outside of Tyler Warren pretty much the same guys, you 736 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I just think quarterback consistency instability 737 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: means so much, and I think Johnathan Taylor's success are 738 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: a large part of it is because the Colts now 739 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: have the threat of the passing game and teams can't 740 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: load up the box and they have to spread out 741 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: the defense sideline the sidelines, So the Coults are seeing 742 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: more wits, you know, from the front seven. So I 743 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: just give so much credit to Daniel Jones with his 744 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: production on the field, but maybe even more than that, 745 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: he just his his in tangibles, his character, his work ethic, 746 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: the way that he's been able to provide leadership for 747 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: the locker room and has done it in a short 748 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: amount of time. And we've we've talked about this before. 749 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 3: I mean, he's the new guy in a locker room 750 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: that's seen a ton of new guys, right since twenty 751 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: nineteen when Andrew Luck retired. You know, he's come in 752 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: and built up a lot of trust and respect. And 753 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: I mean the guy just freaking lives here. He lives 754 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: at the complex, and he and Shane Stike and are 755 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 3: sort of cut from the same cloth when it comes 756 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: to loving football and scheming things up up and trying 757 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: to gain that those those small little edges that you 758 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: have to have throughout the course of the season. You know, 759 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 3: that leads to an eight and two record so far 760 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: to the first ten games. So I'm gonna go with 761 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones right there. I just think, all of a sudden, 762 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: everybody thinks Shane Stichen's a great play caller and a 763 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: great alfense of mine. I think he always has been. 764 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: But he's got the quarterback that sees the game the 765 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 3: same way as he does in Daniel Jones. 766 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, Matt, when you look at Pittsburgh 767 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: and you look at Atlanta, you know, you're up there, 768 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: as Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts, who's on 769 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: the Java House Peeling Port guest line here, You're up 770 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: there calling the game, and you're calling a lack of 771 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: holding onto the football for the first time in those 772 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: last two games. Right. I mean, all of a sudden, 773 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: some of those turnover issues or challenges are creeping up, 774 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: but they're getting to Daniel Jones more than what we 775 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: saw previously. Is that because Pittsburgh came up with and 776 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: they've got some talent up front, don't get me wrong, 777 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: but Witsburgh come up with some sort of a blueprint 778 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: that previously was unseen that Atlanta then replicated that the 779 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Colts need to be aware of or did the offensive 780 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: line go into a two game step back. 781 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 3: I think it's more you got to give credit to 782 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 3: those two teams on defense. I mean, specifically the Pittsburgh Steelers. 783 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 3: They've got just two studs coming off the edge where 784 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: most of the pressure not all, but most of the 785 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: pressure in that game came off the edges with with 786 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: Watt and high Smith. And then I think Atlanta just 787 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: blitzed their brains out. And I think again, that's what 788 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: most teams have done and will continue to do for 789 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: the Colts because again, I just think most defensive coordinators 790 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 3: say if we and I hate to you know, single 791 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: any sort of of you know, mindset or ideology out, 792 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: but I mean just because it's top of mind, because 793 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: those these two guys have been here in recent pass 794 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: I mean, if it's if it's the Matt Eberflus or 795 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 3: Gus Bradley approach where you just sit back and play 796 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: your scheme and you don't try to be games specific. 797 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: The Colts are just gonna torch you. They will. They're 798 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: just gonna I mean, they're gonna score you. Know, thirty 799 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: points in the first three and a half quarters and 800 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 3: put it on cruise control and you're gonna lose the game, 801 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, thirty eight to whatever. So teams know they've 802 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: got to dictate the terms to the Colts and at 803 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 3: least give themselves a chance to generate some takeaways and 804 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: to you know, kick the Colts out of field goal 805 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: range on a crucial sack on third down or whatever 806 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 3: the case is, by blitzing. And the Colts have to 807 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: do a better job up front of being aware of 808 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: those things and picking up stunts and twist at the 809 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. There's no doubt about that. And I 810 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: think Daniel Jones himself has to do a better job 811 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: because I think it's kind of you know, peaked up 812 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: the last two games to your point of stepping up 813 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 3: in the pocket a little bit quicker, getting the ball 814 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: out just a little bit faster, things like that. I mean, 815 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: I think all of this goes hand in hand with 816 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: the skill players getting open, winning their one on one 817 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: matchups on the outside. Obviously, the offensive line as to 818 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 3: protect Jones, got to get the ball out fast. I 819 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: think I think the Colts spent the last week with 820 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: the buy, recognizing that those all of those things have 821 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 3: been a problem in the last two games, even though 822 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: they've split those two games one win and one loss. 823 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: Matt. Lastly, when I was on my way in today 824 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: and I've seen a fellow that does this in Broader 825 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: Bowl a lot. But he's a guy that doesn't have 826 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: he never wears a shirt. This wasn't that guy. I 827 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: was driving in and I saw a business guy, like 828 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: literally a business guy riding a unicycle, just just cruising 829 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: down Capitol riding a unicycle, you know, like nobody. I mean, 830 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: like had a briefcase in one hand suit riding a unicycle. 831 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: And I thought, now that's a talent. That's a skill, right, 832 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean not not just riding the unicycle, but doing 833 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: it with a suit on. Pretty impressive. Do you have 834 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: a hidden talent like that that we're not aware of? 835 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't have anything like that that extreme. But I 836 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 3: can play the drums, really, you know I can? Yeah, 837 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 3: I can. I can play drums, like like rock and 838 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: roll drums. 839 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: Like did you have drums as a kid? 840 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 3: I did. My My dad came home like it was 841 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: really bizarre in like in a great way. My dad 842 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: came home like when I was in second grade one 843 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: day and he just bought a drum set. Like I 844 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 3: got a brother growing up, neither of us asked for 845 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: a drum set. Neither of us wanted to like learn 846 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: how to play drums. He just came home with a 847 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: drum set and then it was just there. And so 848 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: my brother and I kind of picked it up growing up. 849 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: And he's much better than I am my brother. But 850 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I can. I can hold my own. I can. 851 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: I can. You know, if Jake, if you have a 852 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: band and uh, you know you need a guy to 853 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: fill in and a pinch, I can keep up with you, 854 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 3: you know, I can. I can hold my own keeping 855 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: a beat. 856 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: And that's impressive. 857 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: Maybe not a solo, but I can. I can. I 858 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: can be up on stage. 859 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: Feel like Bobby Brady, you just sat out there? Did 860 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: you like sit out in the garage or like where 861 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: where exactly did you do this? And how long were 862 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: your parents neurotic? 863 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 3: Uh? Well, yeah, I don't know what my dad was thinking. 864 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: He probably didn't ask my mom for permission. I think 865 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: he just did it. But yeah, we definitely drove her 866 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: crazy with uh because when we was in the basement 867 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 3: and so you know, my house growing up was kind 868 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 3: of like the social house. Like everybody just came over 869 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: to my house, you know, before or after stuff. So 870 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: you know, whenever friends would come over, they would just 871 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 3: bang away and wail in the drums, and I'm sure 872 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: it would piss my mom off the high heavens, but 873 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure that went. 874 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: I always felt like the true sign of the social 875 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: house supremacy. And like late in middle school and early 876 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: high school was largely based upon how much junk food 877 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: your mom was willing to put in the pantry. 878 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: Uh, junk food and you know mountain dew like terrible 879 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: things for you, you know what I mean. 880 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 881 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 3: The only thing that my house didn't have that most 882 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: like epically good social houses had growing up were like 883 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: a really good VHS collection, like tape collection of movies. 884 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't do that. My parents didn't buy movies. 885 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 3: We had HBO and then we would tape them off 886 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 3: of HBO. 887 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, listen, I was. I was in early high 888 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: school when win my dad, I mean fortunately made it through, 889 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: but first had a heart episode. And so you came 890 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: over to my house and it was like, oh, can 891 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: I get you some wheat bread or yogurt, you know, 892 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: all right, Matt, Colts and Chiefs coming up on Sunday. 893 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: We'll be listening to the call man. Appreciate the time 894 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: as always. 895 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 3: All right, guys, be well. 896 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor joining us, Java, House Peel and poor guests.