1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Well, from one turn bag to another. It's a new boss, 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: same as the old boss. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: That race is already heating up. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Huh uh vop os osly osly mm hmm. Former president 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: of the Indianapolis City County Council. Yeah, comes out yesterday 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: with a big announcement that he's running for mayor. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's running for mayor and the new mayor will 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 4: be chosen in twenty twenty seven. Right, So Joe Hawks 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: got a long way to go in a short time 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 4: to get there. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be interesting because Joe Hawk said 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: is in his third term. He had said this was 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: going to be it for him. There's a lot of 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: people who believe he's going to run again because the 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: guy is a complete dumpster fire as a human being, 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: and it's totally unhiable for any sort of any decent 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: reputable place. Why would they want him and. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: What else is he going to do? 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of people that believe that 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: he will indeed seek a fourth term. And Osley is 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: throwing the first salvo out there saying I'm going to 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: run now. Look, nothing's going to change if this guy 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: becomes the mayor because he's been in charge of the 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: city government as the president for all the things that 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: are doing have been done. And so you're just looking 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: at this and going, well, whether it's this guy or 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: it's hog set again, where is the change necessary in 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: vision and strategy and whatever? 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Where is that at that the city so desperately needs. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. He 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: says he wants Indianapolis to be a world class and 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 4: globally recognized city and that he wants a skyline that 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 4: is recognizable. 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: That's the vision. 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: And here we go. 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: And this is where we get back into we call 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: him Bso's Bright Shiny Objects, in which the obsession becomes 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: about the bright shiny object because that gets the headlines 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 3: and that's the ribbon cutting rather than doing the nuts 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: and bolts basics of government. Well in this city doesn't 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: really do any of them. Well, obviously crime is totally 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: out of control, and you know, you can hang your 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: hat on well, it's not as bad as it was 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: the year before. The numbers are still unacceptable. Any reasonable 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: people would would would think that you've got the roads 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: which are a complete disaster. You've got you know, snow 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: plow every time. There's some sort of snow event. You 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: can speak to this better than I can. You're a resident. 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: The roads are just complete trash. Yeah, and speaking of trash, 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: that's sort of the fourth job of a mayor. I mean, 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's public safety, it's roads, it's snow, 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: and it's trash. 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Those are the four main jobs. I don't know. 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if the trash has done well or not. 55 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm not here dumping trash. But what is that's clearly 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: number four on the list of things you're most most 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: thinking about. And so what gets better, what changes, what's 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: going to be different? How do we get Indianapolis out 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: of this? To steal a phrase from Jimmy Carter, the 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: state of malayase that that it's entered in, you know, 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: one of the things, and this sounds horrible to say, 62 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: but the one of the things I love about our 63 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: new building is one it has saved me about ten 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: minutes because I don't have to drive through downtown anymore. 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 66 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: And two I'm just not subjected to downtown anymore, not 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: even the drive, just the general just stink and depression 68 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: of it. You go out there during a random weekday, 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: and even if there's not nine homeless guys laying on 70 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: the circle. There's just this like dystopian feel about it 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: where it used to be hustling and bustling, and there's 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: not nearly as many people and they don't seem as happy, 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: and it's just it's just so depressing. 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: Osley says that he's gonna put his emphasis on neighborhood 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: neighborhood led development and also the downtown area which you're 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: talking about, and White River revitalization, and that he wants 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: to engage more directly with the General Assembly and do 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: that on infrastructure. 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: Sure, and the city needs. 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Other than. 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: Asking for more money. What does that even mean though, 83 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: because a big part of this is a complete lack 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: of competency from the city government as a whole. And 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: I just come back to this thing. Ryan Hedrick told us, 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: this has been several months ago. 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Now. 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: I can't even remember what the scandal with hog Set 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: was at the time. There's been so many of them. 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: But Ryan Hedrick, who always saw the construction, was that 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: what it was. I can't remember what it was. There's 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: been so many of them, it doesn't matter. Ryan Hedrick 93 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: was in with us from the WBC newsroom and of 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: course Ryan has been very candid. Him and Matt Bear 95 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: have this fabulous supporting Sobriety podcast that they talk about 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: their trials and tribulations with struggles with addiction. And Ryan 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: was telling us Joe hog Set runs his city, the 98 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: city that he's in charge of, the same way he 99 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 3: ran his life when he was in the throes of addiction. 100 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: And what he was saying about that is things get started, 101 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: they never get finished. Everything's a mess, everything's on organized, 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: everything's a dumpster fire. 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: You travel around this city, that's it. That's the city. 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: And again, I don't have to tell how long has 105 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Washington Street been closed? 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: Still still under construction. 107 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: They built the World Trade Centers. 108 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: In a shorter amount of time than that bridge. 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: And I assume it still is under construction. 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: Part of it, part of it's open. 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: It's utterly ridiculous. You're years on this now, and it 112 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: is whether it's Illinois Street or whatever, it's all the 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: things start, they don't get finished. It's all going at 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: the same time. There's nothing about this city right now 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: where you say that's the city on the move, that's 116 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: the city on the sin. That's a place people want 117 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: to be and I don't know how this guy who 118 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: has been while he's not been the mayor, he's been 119 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: the council president is the dude who's going to get 120 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: it back on track. 121 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: He has been criticized for having that former hog Set 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: campaign staffer, Lauren Roberts removed from that council meeting. He 123 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: later apologized for it, but some people are saying the 124 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 4: criticisms of him are that he is visibly emotional at times. 125 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: So you have to ask yourself, does that visible emotion 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: and occasional pause is that a weakness or is that 127 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: authenticity and heartfelt leadership. 128 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: Well, you don't rise to that level with authenticity and 129 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: heartfelt leadership. The establishment, the power brokers, they don't allow that. 130 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Right. This is where, well, this is what we are 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: in our country. 132 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: I was having this conversation yesterday with somebody and I said, 133 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: we just oh, I know what it was when the 134 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: mayor of Carmel was there advocating for another tax increase. 135 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: They want this innkeeper's tax thing to go up so 136 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: they can build a convention center. And I was telling 137 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: this person we were talking about it, and I said, 138 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: we just we're a socialist country. 139 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Now, we just don't admit it. 140 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: We're basically socialism without the routine violence and the gulags. 141 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, essentially, you have a tippy top group of 142 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: people who make all them money. They utilize and weaponize 143 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: the government to help them make more money, and we 144 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: the peasants, are essentially the people who scrap to put 145 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: together some sort of middle class existence to do the 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: bidding of these people. I mean, that's just basically the 147 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: way it works now, and so you don't get outsiders 148 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: to rise to levels of power anymore. Just like they'll 149 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: cut you off, they will stop it. So I am 150 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: hoping here's what I'm hoping for next year, Casey, and 151 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: we'll see if I get this. I'm hoping for two 152 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: things as it relates to Indianapolis elections. Number One, we 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: need Jesse Brown to run for mayor in the Democrat primary. 154 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: I think that would be fascinating. Given the traction that 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: socialist candidates have had in major metropolitan cities, I think 156 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: he would do quite well. Could he win, I don't know, 157 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: but he is honest and at least in his view 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: of things. You ask him a question, he gives you 159 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: an answer. He cuts the bs. Now, some of his 160 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: answers are insane. But if you have to tell me, 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: I have to deal between a guy who I think 162 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: is kind of wacky and out there and a little 163 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: insane on some of his answers and policies and naive, 164 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: but he's honest and he's a decent human. Right like 165 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: his views, He'll tell you you sit down and talk 166 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: to him, or I got to deal with four more 167 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: years of a continuation of Joe hog Set, which, whether 168 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: it is hogg seat or oestly, I'm gonna take the 169 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: honest guy who's got some views that are out there, 170 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it every time. 171 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, is Jesse Brown going to start 172 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: promising things like mom Donnie does in New York City. 173 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: But the difference is he would try to do them. 174 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Like who has been the most forceful voice against the 175 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: hog Set administration. 176 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: It's been Jesse Brown. 177 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: Sure, who has been the most forcefull voice on the 178 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: Thomas Carl Cook Socket's been. 179 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: Just would say it's Jason Hammer. 180 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: Well, but I'm saying in terms of the actual the structure, 181 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: it's not the Republicans. It's not the been, the six 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: or whatever. It is Republicans who have been leading against 183 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: Joe Hogshead. It's been Jesse Brown. The biggest pain of 184 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: the ass to Joe hogg Set has been the Democrat 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: socialist on the Indianapolis City County Council. The other thing 186 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: we need, and I don't know if we're going to 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: get this or not, because we need our old PALINDI 188 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: reporter Steven Whimmer to run for mayor two in a 189 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: general election. 190 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: And would he run as a republican libertarian Democrat. 191 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm kind of hoping for. And I 192 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: don't know, and I don't know what he's going to do, 193 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: but I feel like if he runs as a libertarian, 194 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: then he would be on the stage with whoever the 195 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: Democrat pick is for the general election debates. 196 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I just need. 197 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: I need Indie reporter on stage with the Democrat candidate 198 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: for mayor in Indianapolis. 199 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Not necessarily to win, but just to stir things up. 200 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: Oh, he'd have no chance of winning, but that's not 201 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: what this is about. 202 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Audio for days on this program. 203 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: So those are the two things. The city is not 204 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: getting fixed. You're not going to see any changes. These 205 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: are all the same people, just under different names. And 206 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: so if it's going to be. If the city's going 207 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: to go to hell, we might as well get some 208 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: entertainment out of it. 209 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: Right, how expensive do you think this race will be? 210 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't it what? Fifteen million? 211 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: Well that's what Shreeves spent his own money. That's not 212 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: even include hog set. I mean, you're not who do 213 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: the Republicans even have? 214 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: Who? 215 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: Would you look at? 216 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: Many people are calling for Andrew Ireland to run state rep. 217 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: He would get destroyed, you think so? He would get 218 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: destroyed because he doesn't connect with people. 219 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: He does not. Look, I go back to that interview, 220 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: you and Jim. 221 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: You want somebody who connects? Or do you want somebody 222 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: who's smart? 223 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Well? Do I have to choose? 224 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Apparently a million people in this city and I got 225 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: to choose? Do I have to choose in alof weirdo 226 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: who's smart or somebody who connects? 227 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: That's a moron? Do I have to I can't in 228 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: a million. 229 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: People, you'd have somebody who's smart and connected. 230 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: I can't find one person out of a million people running. 231 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Look here, I don't live here. 232 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm an eligis and Hammer running Well, Hammer's the sort 233 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: of guy who could do it. 234 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: But why would anybody decent want to do it? 235 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: Give him the dumpster fire of what the Marion County 236 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: Republican Party is and their inability to be competitive on anything. 237 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: I would any decent person want to run for the 238 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: mayor of Indianapolis unless you're like Jefferson and you're using, 239 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: well shre was using. 240 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: As a stepping stone if you didn't win, you knew 241 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: what was going to happen, and it did. 242 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: It played out exactly like we said it would. 243 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: Good people do not run for public office because it 244 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: ain't worth the hassle. And I and when you don't, 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: when you have a party, in this case, the Marion 246 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: County Republican Party, who is totally inept who is totally ineffective. 247 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: It's not just that they don't raise moneyor put good 248 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: candidates for it. They don't even fight on most things. 249 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: They agree with hog Set on most things. WIBC is 250 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: the opposition to Joe hogg Set, because the Republican Party 251 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: on the City County Council just goes along with whatever 252 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: he says. 253 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: Well, they're like the Democrat Party in the General Assembly. 254 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: It's over. 255 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: They can win that fight, Okay, So mostly may have 256 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: some competition there's rumors that Andrea Hunley could be running 257 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: as well. 258 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're going to see several people get in, 259 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: especially if Hogseet decides not to run for another term. 260 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: You know, I definitely wouldn't rule out Ryan Meher's running. 261 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: And look, I think the move of Chris Bailey, the 262 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: IMPD chief who took this job as the chief of 263 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: staff for hog Set, tells you that he's reading the 264 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: tea leaves that it's going to be somebody there in 265 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: twenty eight that he's going to be working with you. 266 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: Don't leave the job as chief of police for some 267 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: I mean mostly political position, right if you don't think 268 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: that job is going to be there in a couple 269 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: of years. 270 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: So he's telling you. 271 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: By that that nothing is going to change. Just look, 272 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: don't look at the words, look at the actions of 273 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: these people. And he's telling you that he thinks it's 274 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: going to be the status quo.