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Speaker 1: Good morning, every wanted Welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: We are midweek here getting ready for a Monday night

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Speaker 1: football game with the Colts and forty nine Ers a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on this week. In the meantime, Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: James Boyd, Mark Dyton literally roting. He's just trying to

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Speaker 1: rodeo up wild goats in the back room there. Mark,

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Speaker 1: how things going back there this morning?

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Speaker 2: Oh Dad, no issues at all.

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Speaker 3: It's all good. But we were on the air. We're

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Speaker 3: ready to go.

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Speaker 1: We got Colts, We've got some Butler basketball from last night.

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Speaker 1: NBA Cup has come to a close. And here's the

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Speaker 1: big question I was thinking about all day yesterday.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: So when the Colts went and got and you may

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Speaker 1: have discussed this yesterday, when the Colts went and got

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers off the couch after a five year layoff,

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Speaker 1: we knew that there were questions about the health of

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. They obviously weren't impressed by what they saw

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Speaker 1: with Riley Leonard. They didn't feel comfortable there. But now

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Speaker 1: that you have three potentially healthy quarterbacks, are you gonna

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Speaker 1: tell me Kevin Bowen that we like Philip Rivers off

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Speaker 1: a five year retirement as competent as he looked the

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Speaker 1: other day, over a healthy Anthony Richardson, who by the way,

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Speaker 1: was eight and seven as a starter for you along

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Speaker 1: the way, Is that what.

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Speaker 2: They're telling us? Yeah, well, I would say two things. One,

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Speaker 2: I would say yes. You know, we talked quite often yesterday,

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Speaker 2: James about the quote from Shane Stikeen. You know, we

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Speaker 2: didn't bring him here to sit him on the bench,

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Speaker 2: but also to define healthy for Anthony Richardson. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the unknown. I mean, we were talking two

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Speaker 2: plus months and exactly where is he at from a

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Speaker 2: physicals eight? I think that is a true unknown. Steven

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Speaker 2: Holder will join us later today. We'll certainly tsk some

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Speaker 2: questions his way. The Colts get back to practice tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But that's where I look at it and say that

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Speaker 2: answer might be one thing today on December seventeenth, and

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Speaker 2: then James, if we get to whatever December twenty eighth,

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Speaker 2: it might be a different answer after Anthony Richardson potentially

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Speaker 2: has returned to practic and has actually done some football

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Speaker 4: That's kind of where I'm at with it. I know

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Speaker 4: a lot of the fans are champion at the bit

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Speaker 4: to have a decision made on Anthony Richardson, but we

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Speaker 4: just don't know yet. So without having the clear answer

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Speaker 4: and some of the vagueness around his status right now,

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Speaker 4: it clouds the evaluation of how we shook at the

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Speaker 4: quarterback competition, because yes, he's been clear for physical activities,

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Speaker 4: which means weightlifting, throwing, and running, but he hasn't been

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Speaker 4: cleared for full blown football activities, which would obviously mean practice.

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Speaker 4: And I think that is the distinction that is tripping

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Speaker 4: a lot of people up, even myself when I go

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Speaker 4: to talk about Anthony Richardson, because I'm not sure how

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Speaker 4: much he can do. But then the argument that I

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Speaker 4: hear from the fan base, and trust me, I do

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Speaker 4: hear you all, and it makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 4: They're like, well, if and when he gets cleared, he

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Speaker 4: should automatically play because the other guy you're playing hadn't

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Speaker 4: played in nearly five years. So the doubt that you're

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Speaker 4: casting on what Anthony could do without having played in

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Speaker 4: a couple of months should be casted on the same

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Speaker 4: guy who wasn't played it in a few years. So

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Speaker 4: I get that, but it's certainly an interesting situation, and

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Speaker 4: it adds to another It adds another wrinkle to a

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Speaker 4: very intriguing quarterback decision for this group.

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Speaker 1: He's out, But uh, just a thought that was gone

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Speaker 1: through my mind that if you do have healthy quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: is a forty four year old coming off a five

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Speaker 1: year retirement stint your best option moving forward. And I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to anybody talk about how Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: Felt Monday after the game physically? Was he okay?

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Speaker 4: Shane said he felt fine. You know, a little sore,

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Speaker 4: but that's to be expected. But besides the typical bumps

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Speaker 4: and bruises, he was fine. And after the game he

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Speaker 4: said he felt pretty good Sunday night as well. Just

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Speaker 4: the one awkward hit he took on the bat snap,

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Speaker 4: he said he probably feel that one. But yeah, for

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Speaker 4: the most part, made through clean and that of itself

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Speaker 4: is probably a win for the Colts. And I will

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Speaker 4: say lasting on just real quick on the quarterback situation,

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Speaker 4: I think the decision ultimately will come down ar or Philip.

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Speaker 4: I think at this point they've decided already. Howard Philip looked.

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Speaker 4: Whether you want to criticize the arm strength or not,

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Speaker 4: he is a better option than Riley Leonard. I don't

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Speaker 4: necessarily know. If I believe that, I would have to

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Speaker 4: think about it a little bit more. But the team

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Speaker 1: Right, to be interest see how do us all play out?

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Speaker 1: As the Colts get ready to take on a Monday

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Speaker 1: night the contest against the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: and we'll keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 3: The NBA Cup.

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Speaker 1: Has come to a close for twenty twenty five. James

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Speaker 1: Boyd and your New York Knicks are the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five Cup champions, their first banner of any kind that

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Speaker 1: they can raise at Madison Square Garden since the early seventies.

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Speaker 3: How excited are you for the NBA?

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Speaker 4: It was a good game. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 4: what else to say. I feel like you should get

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Speaker 4: on your soapbox and tell us, how about you hate

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Speaker 4: New York again? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I might speaks for Tim.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy he's a Knicks.

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Speaker 4: Fan, But yeah, I guess people around here we ain't

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Speaker 4: really feeling that this morning.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not feeling New York Knicks. But they did

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Speaker 1: win the NBA Cup last night. Oh g Annanobi was terrific,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight points, nine rebounds. So even when that, I'll

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Speaker 1: just point out that even when the Knicks have some success,

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Speaker 1: it's an Indiana dude that helps him out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was really good. I thought I

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Speaker 2: thought Jalen Brunson also. And Mitchell Robinson. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: just hey, we get another look at it. Seemingly they

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Speaker 2: hit big shots after he creates. He's a uniquely flawed

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Speaker 2: obviously overcame that in their series, but you know, you

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Speaker 2: felt that at times in the Pacers series last year,

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Speaker 2: think it was kind of cool that, you know, for

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Speaker 2: And if you're the Pacers, you have to love this

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Speaker 3: Probably not. Hopefully they're out partying right now.

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Speaker 2: And the Pacers play them inside of Gamebridge tomorrow House

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Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow night, so the old Vegas flew could

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Speaker 2: be alive and well as the Pacers. One of the

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Speaker 2: shocking things about the Pacers now two months into the season,

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Speaker 2: they've yet to beat a team over five hundred, Like,

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Speaker 2: they only have six wins and none of them are

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Speaker 2: over teams over five hundred Tomorrow night. Take advantage of

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Speaker 1: You're hoping so because right now I also know it's

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Speaker 1: a team that, even though I've had a couple of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this past week was awful. I think Rick Carlisle

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Speaker 2: said that to us yesterday and Pacers to get back

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Speaker 2: Ben Shephard don't appear to be imminent at all, so

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Speaker 2: like Nicks, Bucks, Celtics. I mean, you don't definitely have

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Speaker 3: Right, so we got that going on. Butler played last night.

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Speaker 3: It was a tremendous first four minutes, Kevin. I was

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Speaker 1: They go out to a nine to two lead, and

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, maybe they can. They got a puncher's

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Speaker 1: Yukon Huskies that were playing at that Hartford they used

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Speaker 1: But after those first four minutes, it was all Yukon

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Speaker 1: and they just looked bigger and quicker, and they certainly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yukon was just dominant the rest of the way

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Speaker 2: once they I mean, if you blinked after that start,

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Speaker 2: they had that double digit leading for the most part,

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Speaker 2: is definitely a class of one in the Big East

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Speaker 2: Northwestern six point thirty perdueing all Burn. Not that Northwestern

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Speaker 2: See if you can find a couple others there to

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Speaker 2: help out a resume that's so far has had some

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Speaker 1: KB like Peacock's got to be one of your favorite

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Speaker 1: networks now between Notre Dame and Butler's going to be

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Speaker 1: to be there all the time. They actually I've had

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Speaker 2: Let me dig through the archives a minute. We used

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Speaker 2: to peacock it up quite a lot on the old

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Speaker 2: Indie Classic. Both of those games Butler Northwestern produing Auburn,

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Speaker 2: both on the cock.

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Speaker 1: I can't say it any better than that James Saturday,

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Speaker 1: by the way, speaking on the clock, so that those

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Notre Dame, I had a dream last night.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, do you want to save it or do

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Speaker 3: you want to go?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: There we go? It made and made the move with us.

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Speaker 3: It was on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Also a beautiful Mark, unbelievable pitch, that peacock.

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to know that all the animal sounds

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Speaker 1: have apparently made it over to the new studios with Mark, you.

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Speaker 2: Can maybe says the only thing that's made it over here,

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Speaker 2: We'll know if that's the most healthy thing for my life.

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Speaker 4: Right now with one month, so you have some deep love.

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Speaker 3: There's one McDonald's that we go to all the time.

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Speaker 3: What do we have coming up today?

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Speaker 1: Mark, I know that you've got some things playing today

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up all within the next two hours

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Speaker 1: We're recruising through the middle of the week, still trying

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Speaker 3: It sure feels James Boyd like it's still.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not surprised by that at all. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Moving forward? Kevin Boone, what's the story there?

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Speaker 1: All right, the Colts practice again later on today and

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Speaker 2: I go tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Is everything back?

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Speaker 7: You're right?

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that clarification.

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Speaker 1: Also, I know you guys probably talked about yesterday, but

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Speaker 7: That at all.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we did good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Basketball, last night we had Yukon defeating Butler seventy nine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, over at or excuse me over at gamebridge Field House,

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Speaker 1: And Indiana will play Saturday at home against Chicago State.

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Speaker 1: There's your college basketball right now. As far as the

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Speaker 3: Kevin, the New York Knicks take the title.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Spurs one twenty four to one thirteen

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Speaker 2: And hopefully they are very hungover when they play the

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's help them.

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Speaker 1: James, you're the young single guy, get those knicks together.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, James, boy, the known drinker, We'll get them drunk.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 3: I give one of those jugsp beers you talk about

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Speaker 2: let's just take it a step further. Sure, yeah, all

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Speaker 1: That would be really cool to see that Pacers back

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Speaker 1: And you outlined the story a moment ago, Kevin. Maybe

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Speaker 2: It sounds like for the rest of the month. So

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Speaker 2: right now it's looking like it has been four weeks.

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Speaker 2: these injuries go, you just start to ask those questions

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Speaker 1: One other thing in college football, Jeremiah Love has declared

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Speaker 3: So we all expected that though.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you know, b all accounts. I think we

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love could definitely be a top ten pick, even

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Speaker 2: though he plays the position that you know, seemingly is

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Speaker 3: Whatever at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Ever, Wow, that's high praise?

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Speaker 2: Or should I anybody else I need to throw in there? Mantitao,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't go back to Tim Brown and Rocket

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: As my kids like to remind me, I was watching

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Speaker 2: Should send Max Bowen over to your house.

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Speaker 5: Boy.

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Speaker 3: We got dinosaurs there.

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Speaker 2: You guys have a three or four dinosaurs all right,

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Speaker 2: coming up at as you're a diplodocus?

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Speaker 3: What are you got them?

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Speaker 7: All?

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Speaker 1: Two kids got them. I got to bring you some

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Speaker 1: some dinosaurs you probably we need.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing we have in our house more than dinosaurs,

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Speaker 2: all right, So it's like the one thing you need less.

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Speaker 2: Same here we have nine thousand. We have more dinosaurs

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Speaker 2: than we have newborn diapers.

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Speaker 1: That would have been the business to go into, is

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Speaker 1: to create those little plant We've got those.

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Speaker 2: Small big plastic foam make sounds. Don't make sounds? Wait, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got them all.

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Speaker 7: I like it all right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we'll talk more about the

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Speaker 1: cults and their situation, their situations.

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Speaker 3: They need to win football games.

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Speaker 1: They'll get their first crack at that, probably again with

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers Monday night against San Francisco. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: it next. We'll take some of your texts at two

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Speaker 1: three nine ten seven. You can even call it us,

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Speaker 1: call us up. Phone lines are working this morning, right Mark,

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Speaker 1: Maybe we think sure?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's assume they are two three.

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Speaker 3: Nine ten seventy.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it all next ninety three five and one

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Speaker 1: o seven to five of the fan starting to get

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Speaker 1: into the Christmas spirit, James, you feeling a little bit

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Speaker 1: walking around town seeing it, talking to your friends family.

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Speaker 4: You there, I think I always pretty much am around

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Speaker 4: this time of the year. But yeah, my entire family

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Speaker 4: is adults, so we don't really get into the whole

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Speaker 4: elf on the shelf. And no one has a surprise gift.

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Speaker 4: You just asked you what they want.

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Speaker 3: They don't have you looking around for it.

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Speaker 4: Nah, And then I don't even worry about like getting

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Speaker 4: gifts there on time, Like when I see you next time,

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Speaker 4: we'll go do something. That's kind of how it is.

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Speaker 4: So I look forward to seeing the reaction when I

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Speaker 4: get to FaceTime my guy kids, and the reaction getting

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Speaker 4: the PlayStation or the new shoes or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 6: Oh, mister boyd, I'm just getting the place PlayStation.

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Speaker 4: No, no, to be clear, yeah, I'm not buying anything,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if Santa is getting that. My

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Speaker 4: whole point is I'd like see the reaction when they

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Speaker 4: get all the stuff that they want.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I I the Elf and the

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Speaker 2: bowing household is probably quickly realizing we don't have maybe

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Speaker 2: the biggest home.

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Speaker 3: But he's flying in and out though every day.

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Speaker 2: Well she she she is Emily the Elf. Emily isn't

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Speaker 2: you know, little nervous Emily might be back to some

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Speaker 2: spots she might have been at earlier in the month.

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Speaker 2: You know, we just don't have Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but do you can't remember that In the same

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Speaker 6: issue in our household, she's in the kitchen already.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's there again. Yeah, And I can't help her,

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Speaker 2: you know. I try not to coax Embly in too

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Speaker 2: many different directions, but I'm afraid you might have to

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Speaker 2: reappear in a fuse.

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Speaker 4: When did the elf become a thing? We were I

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Speaker 4: was asking Joel and Nathan this was Is this like

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Speaker 4: a ten year thing?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 4: Has this been around for a decade?

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Speaker 1: My kids are sixteen and seventeen, and the elf started showing.

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Speaker 3: Up at our house.

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Speaker 1: Uh, probably about a decade ago. Probably maybe me eleven

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Speaker 1: years ago.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, it was around in the eighties. I

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Speaker 2: can tell you that much. I really, I'm just as

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Speaker 2: call it a Philip Rivers NFL career. James, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I was just asking because, like I told you, I

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Speaker 4: have to give my parents feedback on their you know, parenting,

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Speaker 4: and I want to tell them, hey, you should have

514
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Speaker 4: been doing this. You don't give enough effort.

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Speaker 2: So they're holding their breath to hear James Boyce.

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Speaker 4: I'm still asking for a basketball hoop my dad, She says,

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Speaker 4: mister boy you still he used to hold me a

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Speaker 4: basketball hoop. I'm thirty years old, man, I need that hoop.

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Speaker 2: I did love this from Max Bell and last night

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Speaker 2: he has one of his you know, Fisher Price hoops

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Speaker 2: that we moved outside when it was moremern And he

522
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Speaker 2: says to me last night, as he's attempting to dribble

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Speaker 2: the basketball in the living room, he goes, can we

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Speaker 2: bring the basketball hoop back indoors?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, let's go, let's hoop.

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Speaker 3: That's how every kid should Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, forty nine Saints is just basketball? This is Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Is there a like a nerf hoop mounted somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the bowing household that everybody.

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Speaker 2: Can play and not? You know, we had one of

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Speaker 2: those nerf I don't even know if you call it nerve.

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Speaker 2: We had one of those hoops in the bath and

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Speaker 2: that that sounded a little better than it actually turned

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Speaker 2: out to me. It quickly got a little too.

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Speaker 1: I can remember my younger brother and I we had

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Speaker 1: ferocious hallway battles with the nerve hoop that would go

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Speaker 1: over the door like at the end of the hallway,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we were admonished many many times for

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Speaker 1: bumping into things going down. So finally my stepfather helped

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Speaker 1: us put up a hoop in the basement and didn't

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Speaker 1: have the highest arc. You couldn't put a lot of

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Speaker 1: arc on the shot, but at least they didn't have

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Speaker 1: to hear is jumping up.

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Speaker 3: And down in the hallway and banging into the doors

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Speaker 3: all the time.

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Speaker 1: But that's how it works, Kevin. At some point, you

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Speaker 1: gotta put up a court somewhere.

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Speaker 2: At some point, right, especially in this state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how that goes.

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Speaker 1: So SAPAN Morning Show ninety three five one or seven

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Speaker 1: five the Fan Getting back to the business of football.

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Speaker 1: Here's where we are for the Indianapolis Colts. They are

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Speaker 1: eight and six on the year. They had a narrow

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Speaker 1: loss with Philip Rivers, the forty four year old off

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Speaker 1: the couch quarterback in Seattle on Sunday. They are one

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Speaker 1: game behind the Texans, who currently have the head to

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Speaker 1: head tie break over them. But they'll play the Texans again,

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Speaker 1: and that's really their best hope because they're two full

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Speaker 1: games behind the Bills, and you know, it's tough to

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Speaker 1: imagine that the Bills are going to get that. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are also two full games above the Colts, and

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Speaker 1: they currently.

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Speaker 3: Lead in the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty simple math, guys, Colts need to win all

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Speaker 1: three of these games. They could win two and get

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Speaker 1: some help, but if they win three, then I think

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Speaker 1: that might do it.

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they win three, I think it's almost

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Speaker 2: a lock that they make to play. And honestly, I've

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Speaker 2: crunched a few of the numbers here over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of days. There are a lot more scenarios in

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Speaker 2: just winning two where they get in, particularly the last

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Speaker 2: two Jacksonville and Houston. It's vital that those are the two,

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Speaker 2: which it just sounds wild. I mean, they could lose

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Speaker 2: Monday night, that'd be what a five game losing streak,

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Speaker 2: and yet they're still not eliminated and actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: could have a decent shot, you know. I think we

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Speaker 2: started talking about this maybe a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 2: when the playoff situation became a little bit more front

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Speaker 2: and center. I think the biggest question isn't necessarily will

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Speaker 2: the Colts get enough help, it's well they do their part.

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Speaker 9: M h.

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Speaker 2: Like, Jeff, you just said win three in a row.

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Speaker 2: They haven't won two games in a row in December

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Speaker 2: or January under Shane Stiken. So I mean that's that's

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Speaker 2: the biggest question, is like, can the Colts do their

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Speaker 2: own part that they're gonna have to win two games

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Speaker 2: of these three, That to me is the bigger question

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Speaker 2: than Hey, is Houston gonna lose?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 2: Could the Chargers lose? Like if you look at the

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Speaker 2: Texans schedule, you look at the Chargers schedule, they actually

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Speaker 2: play each other in week seventeen. I think they will

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Speaker 2: definitely lose, particularly the Chargers. It's more of will the

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Speaker 2: Colts be able to do their own part in this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're looking at conference records, which ultimately

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Speaker 1: that could could matter. If the Colts won those final

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Speaker 1: two divisional games, obviously that adds to their conference record.

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Speaker 3: That would put them at eight and four currently.

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Speaker 1: The other wildcard teams Chargers are eight and two in

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Speaker 1: the conference right now, but.

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Speaker 3: The Colts hold the head to head there.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are seven and three in the conference, and

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Speaker 1: the Texans are seven and two in the conference.

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Speaker 3: So it's all up. It's all there to be played

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Speaker 3: for Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Whether you win two or three, three, I think probably

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Speaker 1: gets it done too, Like you say, puts it into

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Speaker 1: the mix for you. But it's a good thing they

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Speaker 1: racked up those early wins and a lot of those

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Speaker 1: those first eight games were conference games, James, because that

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Speaker 1: may come back to help them quite a bit if

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Speaker 1: they can just get a win or two here.

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Speaker 4: So according to our playoff predictor at the Athletic which

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Speaker 4: runs through the season, I think like a thousand times

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Speaker 4: to a simulator. No, I did not shout out to

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Speaker 4: my guy Austin Mock. I also thought it's funny because

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Speaker 4: the guy's name is Austin Mock and he is in

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Speaker 4: charge of a lot of our mock simulators.

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Speaker 6: But it's not a NIX like Carol Weathers or something,

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Speaker 6: and as a weather lady exactly.

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Speaker 4: But his last name really is a monk. Shout out

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Speaker 4: to my guy Austin mon was all over that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's a he's a pro, And I feel like whenever

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Speaker 4: I hear him it's like the voice of God because

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Speaker 4: I can't see him anymore, just hearing somebody.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, he's kind of out of your view there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like for whatsoever?

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Speaker 4: Well, if a lot of people say on the YouTube

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Speaker 4: stream say the same thing, you know, a little dark

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Speaker 4: in here. But as far as the playoff odds go,

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Speaker 4: if they went out, they have a ninety eight percent

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Speaker 4: chance to make the playoffs. If they only win their

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Speaker 4: last two and they lose against the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 4: they still have a forty one percent chance to get

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Speaker 4: into the playoffs. So it's not the end all, bey all,

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Speaker 4: but they pretty much have to win their division games

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Speaker 4: to have any semblance of a chance to win. If

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Speaker 4: you lose your next two, that percent drops to less

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Speaker 4: than one percent. And James, you, guys, you have to win.

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Speaker 2: Factor in the Colts current.

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Speaker 4: State, yes, and with Philip Rivers with the injuries, and

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Speaker 4: then also you factor in the other teams and who

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Speaker 4: they have to play and how those scenarios will likely go.

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Speaker 2: And so if you want to be eternal optimists, the

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Speaker 2: numbers are actually higher right now, yes, that the Colts

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, and those numbers of James doo out there.

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Speaker 2: I saw Vegas had it at plus nine hundred. So

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Speaker 2: if you want to bet on the Colts to make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, ten bucks to win ninety would be what

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Speaker 2: you're looking at right now here. So again it just

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Speaker 2: comes back to you've got to do your part. And

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Speaker 2: the one thing about San Francisco you look a little

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Speaker 2: closer at the forty nine ers. Again, they are the

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Speaker 2: poster child of don't tell me injuries are an excuse.

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Speaker 2: They are. They have been decimated with injuries this season.

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Speaker 2: Parties missed eight games, Kittles missed five. Nick Bosa tears

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Speaker 2: ACL in Week three. Fred Warner arguably the best defensive

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Speaker 2: player in the league. You know whatever, that was a

661
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: gruesome looking injury. He's done for the season.

662
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: Best defensive guy not named Miles Garrett.

663
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Both there, Yes, that's probably the best way to put it.

664
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Both their first round picks the last two years have

665
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: missed ample time. I mean, they have been so hurt here.

666
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: They are at ten wins. You look closer at it, though,

667
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: and it's shocking that they are at that number. They

668
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: are the worst sack team in the NFL. They struggle

669
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: to stop the run. Tennessee just average nearly. I think

670
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: it was over six yards per carry on them last week.

671
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: And maybe the oddest thing that San Francisco is going

672
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: for them this season, they have been like the elitist

673
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: special teams unit. You can imagine. They have yet to

674
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: miss a field goal and their opponents have missed nine.

675
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: You want to talk about great field goal luck, I

676
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: mean that's just luck. I mean like it's not like

677
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 2: you're necessarily, you know, having these unbelievable rushes causing all

678
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: these missed field goals here. So I think you could

679
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: make a case if you look at the final three teams,

680
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: this might be particularly on defense, the least talented team

681
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: that you're going to face of the final three again

682
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Jacksonville and Houston. Offensively, again, Party's back Christian

683
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: McCaffrey obviously is still him, even though his numbers lately

684
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: maybe not have been as eye popping and running it.

685
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: And then Kittle is one of the best tight ends

686
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: in the league.

687
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's they just they're a team though, and they've

688
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: traditionally been this team, even over the last even under

689
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan.

690
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: They're a team.

691
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: They just generally, you think about the forty nine ers,

692
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: they find ways to win. Now they haven't had the

693
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl lately, but regular season, early round playoffs, they

694
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: just seem, to your point, Kevin, to find ways to win.

695
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's I mean again, I just went

696
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: over their injury situation. I mean, that's absurd that they

697
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: lost that many guys, that many guys early in the season.

698
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: You know, both again Week three, Warner was in the

699
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: first half of the year. Party goes down early in

700
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: the season. They haven't had a UK all year long, right, AYU,

701
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: because is a whole different story. That's kind of a

702
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: soap opera for them, So very impressive by the way,

703
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: Gus Bradley on their defensive staff of course, most recently

704
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: here Robert Salah, their defensive coordinator. So those are a

705
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: couple of the minds that Philip Rivers will face. I

706
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: think Philip mentioned that he actually called Gus when he

707
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: was coming back and Kyle Shanahan. Gus walked down to

708
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan's offense office and told him that Philip was

709
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: coming back, and Kyle Shanahan said, first split second he

710
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: forgot that the Colts were on the schedule upcoming. Hes like, oh,

711
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: this is awesome, man, I have so much respect for you,

712
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and then he quickly realized, oh wait,

713
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: we play you in about ten days, so he said

714
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: he stopped giving pleasantries after that, But Kyle Shanahan a

715
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: lot of respect I think for Philip Rivers. And a

716
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, when San Francisco was dealing with

717
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: all their quarterback injuries, they explored the idea of Uncle

718
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: Phil during that playoff Super Bowl run.

719
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: So here's the question, and I've thought about this a lot.

720
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Yesterday there is no denying, and again we almost have

721
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: to compartmentalize these things, or at least I do. There's

722
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: no denying that what happened on Sunday in Seattle was inspiring, amazing,

723
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: took it right to the brink. What was going on

724
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: in the press box, James when they took the lead

725
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: at sixteen fifteen, with time starting to run out.

726
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: Nobody even thought it would get to that point, did they.

727
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 7: Yeah?

728
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to like poop poo on it too much,

729
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: but there wasn't much of a reaction because we're not

730
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: allowed to have one.

731
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: Well I understand that, but you get a feel for

732
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: what ye're saying.

733
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: I guess it was, you know, tense in there, and

734
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: you know, I guess we're all looking around like, well,

735
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: are they going to do this? But yeah, it really

736
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: wasn't enough time to digest it all because we were

737
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: all heads of our laptops trying to write two versions

738
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: of the same story, the one where they win, which

739
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 4: is somewhere in my laptop, and the one where they lose,

740
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: which is the one they got published. So yeah, I

741
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: just remember looking at Joel and maybe Nathan and saying,

742
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: are they really going to do this, and then they

743
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: get a pretty good kickoff return, the defense kind of

744
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: buckles finally and they lose that game. But yeah, there

745
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: wasn't much of a reaction in the press. I did

746
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: talk to our Seahawks writer Michael Shawn Dugger after the game,

747
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: and Michael Shawan was just saying, like, look, man, I

748
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: don't know how for real the Seahawks are, but they

749
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: were pretty relieved to not have Uncle Phil come in

750
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: here and you know, make a Disney move out of

751
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: the game.

752
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: So that was inspiring and that was fun.

753
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: And I think all of us that were not in

754
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: a press box because I've been in that same situation, yeah,

755
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: you can't.

756
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to react, but you're like.

757
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Literally, you have to be kind of an autumant at

758
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: a time. You just you're sitting there doing your thing,

759
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: but at home you're like, oh my god, my wife

760
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: and I are like, is this going to happen?

761
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: Are they going to do this? You know? And then

762
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: the kickoff happened and in unwinds. But now where do

763
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: you go from me?

764
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 9: Here?

765
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: Here's the question.

766
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: And I got you know, a couple of my friends

767
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: admonished me Monday, like, you guys weren't positive enough.

768
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: That was an amazing story, and I know it didn't work.

769
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Out, and I was like, yeah, I get that, that's

770
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: all true.

771
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: But now where do we go from here, Kevin? What's

772
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: the follow up? Now for a forty four year old

773
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: quarterback who.

774
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: They generated a poultry two hundred and fourteen yards of

775
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: total offense, there was this really nothing going on offensively,

776
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: where do they go with an extra week?

777
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: Does it get better? Does he start to push the

778
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: ball down field a little bit more?

779
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: Or does a team like the forty nine ers with

780
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: with Bradley and Sawa and the guys you just talk about,

781
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: say to themselves, Oh, we see a few things, Well

782
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: we're not going to let that happen.

783
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what And going back to Monday,

784
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, I know we talked about it. I think that's

785
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: what made it difficult. It's like, do you talk about

786
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: the movie you know, yesterday we have on Philip Rivers's

787
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: you fellow defensive coordinator at Saint Michael's High, Like that's

788
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: the movie aspect of it. But the reality is, unfortunately,

789
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: given the state of the standings, the loss is brutal.

790
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: When you look at the playoff picture like, you have

791
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: to start winning games and plurally to get into the

792
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: playoffs here. So I think that's what makes the story

793
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: a little bit difficult here of the celebration of the movie,

794
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: or you know, what is this doing to your playoff chances?

795
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: You know, I do find myself the further we get

796
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: removed from Monday and Chane Stikeen's words, and he was

797
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: very bullish, very adamant, there is more there to this offense.

798
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: There will be more there to the phillip Rivers offense.

799
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: There will be more there down the field to this offense.

800
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: The more removed I get from Monday, I find myself

801
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: very curious what that looks like. Because in some of

802
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: these quarterback situations, when the QB's been here for a week,

803
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: you would sit there and your answer to that would be, yeah,

804
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 2: you just didn't tap into that part of the playbook.

805
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: You didn't have a chance to get to the whatever

806
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: exotic downfield passing schemes that you have. It was, you know,

807
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: a bit of a short week and you're facing this

808
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: great defense and you're going into a hostile environment. You're

809
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: gonna keep it condensed, You're gonna keep it simplified. But

810
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: Rivers's mental acumen. You could throw anything at him, You

811
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: could throw you know, the whole play.

812
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: He never looked confused at any point in time.

813
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: Right, So the question I have is more physically obviously

814
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: with Rivers, is like, wait a minute, if and when

815
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: you do tap into that part of the playbook, can

816
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: he make those throws?

817
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 9: Can?

818
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: I tell this?

819
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: That's where I'm super curious. Psychen is so adamant, so

820
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: bullish on it. Is that simply coach speak? Is that

821
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: simply trying to get Robert Salah and that group to say, hey,

822
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: wait a minute, could they do some stuff down the

823
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: field because the arm strength, to me, I just have

824
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: major questions of that becoming a realistic part of the

825
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: game plan.

826
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: One of the things that I've really kicked around in

827
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: my head the last couple of days, and really just

828
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: seeing Anthony back at practice last week, was how much

829
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: of a missed opportunity this is for him?

830
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so true and so true.

831
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: I'll put out a story this morning kind of laying

832
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: out some of the stuff he said before the season

833
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 4: about how he wanted to get into the playoffs and

834
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: you know, obviously on one of the starting job and

835
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 4: aside from that being QB one from day one, everything

836
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: else was still available to him, had he been healthy

837
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: to go back into the game, had he been healthy

838
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 4: to help this team try to get into the playoffs

839
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: and try to save their season. So it is crazy.

840
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: I had to, you know, I had to look back

841
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 4: at the video from last week. Shoutut to Dominic Miranda

842
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: over WHR Who's fantastic, And he has his video that

843
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: he posted last week where Anthony is standing at the

844
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers in the end zone of the indoor practice facility,

845
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking to myself, the Colts couldn't turn to

846
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: their twenty twenty three number four pick, so they had

847
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: to turn to the two thousand and four number four pick.

848
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: And just how crazy that is. And I honestly wonder

849
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: where his head is at with all of this, because

850
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: there has to be a part of him when he

851
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: watches and I wrote this all out when he watches

852
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers walk over to him, greet them, they share

853
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: a laugh, and then Phillip straps the helmet on and

854
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 4: goes takes all the practice reps. And you're standing there

855
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: watching and you're probably thinking to yourself, that's the opportunity

856
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 4: I was supposed to have. Even if I wasn't the

857
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: guy from day one, Like I said, I could still

858
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: get an opportunity to redeem myself. There's so much if

859
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: you look at Anthy's career that he's unfortunately been on

860
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: the wrong end of, whether it was the TapouT or

861
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: the completion percentage or the injuries. And here's your chance,

862
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: and you still couldn't make it through a year healthy

863
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: even when you weren't supposed to be playing. And it's

864
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: not necessarily his fault. I think this is truly just

865
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: awful luck when it comes to the stretching band incident

866
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: and you know, breaking something in the locker room and

867
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: that hitting you in the face. But all of that

868
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: just adds to a very uniquely bad career that he's

869
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: had with the Colts. I can't think of a I

870
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: probably should find a better word than bad but underwhelming

871
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: career that he's had with the Indianapolis Colts.

872
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, two ar things for me, James. One, whenever he

873
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: is cleared to play in the game, he needs to

874
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: be involved in short yardage. I think one of the

875
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: biggest questions I have exiting Sunday, the Colts weirdly in

876
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: that game, you know, there was a hope and a

877
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: prayer to get to third, right, it was run, run,

878
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: hopefully you get enough yards and then third and four.

879
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Rivers fits the ball into a tight window. That was

880
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: pretty much the blueprint throughout. The only time they got

881
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: into a third and one or fourth and one against Seattle,

882
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor got stuffed on the false start. So to me,

883
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: when you get into third and ones and fourth and

884
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: ones whenever Richardson is clear to me he needs to

885
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: be out there. That is at the bare minimum, even

886
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: if you still believe Rivers needs to be the guy. Yeah,

887
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: so I would start there. The other question I have is,

888
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: and again the Colts get back to practice tomorrow, we'll

889
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: see about Anthony Richardson opening up that twenty one day window.

890
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: And just to reiterate for everybody, when you are on

891
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: injured reserve, you have a twenty one day practice window

892
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: to where you can practice. You don't count against the

893
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster. You can be activated at any

894
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: point during that window. For example, the Forest Buckner is

895
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: currently in the second week of that window. Last week

896
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: it started for him. He did not play in the

897
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: game after missing a month. I think there's a definite

898
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: chance he plays on Monday. That would be obviously week

899
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: two of the twenty one day window. So for Richardson,

900
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: I think one of the bigger misnomers people have is

901
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: about how many reps your quarterbacks actually get in practice. Like,

902
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: first off, you don't practice that long, particularly this time

903
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 2: of year. Philip Rivers is taking every single starting rep,

904
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: and James You've spoken to Riley Leonard about this. Riley

905
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Leonard has been very vocal when he was the backup

906
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: to Daniel Jones how beneficial it was for him to

907
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 2: run the scout team and play against the Colts starting

908
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: defense in practice. So your backup, I e. Riley Leonard,

909
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: He's getting all the scout team reps. There's no reps

910
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: for Brett Rippon. There's no reps for theoretically third string

911
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, fourth string Anthony Richardson, however you want to

912
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: classify him. So getting him up to speed in that

913
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: manner is where I have some pause, And a lot

914
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: of my pause is rooted in how I think Shane

915
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: Steichen's viewing this, not my own belief. My own belief

916
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: is whenever Richardson's healthy, that I think he should be

917
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: out there, But I'm just trying to relay how I

918
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: think Shane Steichen is viewing it, and he's viewing this

919
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: is this is Philip Rivers's football team. Even a little

920
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: thing they did James signing Rivers to the fifty three

921
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: man roster. They could have just kept him on the

922
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: practice squad and promoted him one, two and a third time.

923
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: The fact that they immediately signed him to the fifty

924
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: three man roster last week after a few days.

925
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: It's a good nuance. I didn't think about that.

926
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means he can start all four of these games.

927
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: That to me was another sign of this old chips in.

928
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: This ain't a one week thing. This isn't a little

929
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: test case. They firmly believe that Rivers is going to

930
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: be their quarterback. I would venture to guess for the

931
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: rest of the twenty twenty five season.

932
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens on Monday night. We got a

933
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: lot of days ahead to talk about it, and we'll

934
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: talk about that. The pacer is going to be back

935
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: at home tomorrow against the Knicks. College basketball last night.

936
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: All coming up with the details in the next few minutes. Also,

937
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: the man who did the story on Indiana football and

938
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti for sixty minutes, joins us in a moment

939
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: here at ninety three five and one oh seven five

940
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: the Fan and as we get ready to go for

941
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: another Wednesday here on the way to a Monday night

942
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: football game for the Colts and the San Francisco forty

943
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: nine ers. We'll get back to talking about that coming

944
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: up in a few minutes, and the amazing story of

945
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. And speaking of amazing stories, guys, don't know

946
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: if you saw the sixty minutes piece on the Indiana

947
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Hoosiers this past Sunday.

948
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: It was terrific. It was a lot of fun.

949
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: I even learned a couple of things, even though we

950
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: followed the team very closely.

951
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: It was done by John Worth.

952
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm over at sixty minutes there, and he joins us

953
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: now in the Payless Liquors Hotline to tell us a

954
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: little bit more about some of the things he discovered

955
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: found out and what was around with Kurt Signetti and

956
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: the guys this past couple of weeks. And good morning, John,

957
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: thanks for being here. We appreciate your time this morning.

958
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: Pleasure. How are you doing.

959
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: We're doing terrific.

960
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: We got a team getting ready to play in the

961
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: college football Playoff that nobody saw coming twenty four months ago.

962
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: People are talking about this as one of the greatest turnarounds,

963
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: if not the greatest turnaround in the history of college football.

964
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts going into Bloomington for that story

965
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: and what were your thoughts coming.

966
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 7: Out of it?

967
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 10: I mean, I I had sort of lived this failure.

968
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 10: I'm a Bloomingkin guy and you know, follow Indiana sports

969
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 10: pretty closely and was sort of had lived this, and

970
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 10: I guess I wanted to just see it on the

971
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 10: ground for myself.

972
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I'd sort of talked to a number of.

973
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 10: People in town and people I grew up with.

974
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 5: And you guys to see this team.

975
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 10: They're not only they winning games, are great to watch.

976
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 10: They've got this quarterback who's a super kid. And then

977
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 10: just sort of experiencing for myself seeing the other talking

978
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 10: to Don Fisher, it really sort of crystallized what a

979
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 10: special season this is. Whoever thought we would be in

980
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 10: a position where, you know, if Indiana did not win

981
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 10: a national championship in football, it would carry the sting

982
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 10: of disappointment. I've been to plenty of games where you

983
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 10: wouldn't even go in from the tailgate because by the end,

984
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 10: you know, ten ten minutes into the game, it was

985
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 10: already twenty four to nothing and you just stayed in

986
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 10: the parking lot.

987
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: So this is a big, big turnaround.

988
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: John, great great piece we played yesterday the audio of

989
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetty kind of retelling maybe his first twenty four

990
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: to forty eight hours in the job, and you know,

991
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: the the utter disgust that he basically had and how

992
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: people viewed the Indiana football program. And that's honestly what

993
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: led to I think so much of the boisterous you know,

994
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: produce sucks, all of that, you know, so on and

995
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: so forth. That stood out to me. And then you

996
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: bring up Don Fisher. I thought Don had one of

997
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: the more just frankly intelligent comments about this turnaround, specifically

998
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: with the football team. You know, you as a bluey

999
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: To native, you've seen Indiana teams be able to score.

1000
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: You've seen Indiana teams that have had you know, quarterbacks

1001
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: and wideouts. But when Don brought up the offensive and

1002
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: defensive lines, I think you just go back and you

1003
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: watch that Big Ten championship game, and that's to me

1004
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: where I've never seen the program at a championship level

1005
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: in the trench like this year's team is.

1006
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a really good point. And some of us

1007
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 10: was just icest, right. I mean, you could look for

1008
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 10: yourself and you could say, hey, listen, not a you know,

1009
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 10: Anton Rendall, let me go go to the list. I'm

1010
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 10: position players were never the issue. It was just Indiana

1011
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 10: for years and years and years getting beat on the

1012
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 10: line and I don't know, I mean, this is this

1013
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 10: was here you say, someone told me this. But half

1014
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 10: the motivation for Mellencamp donating that indoor training facility, part

1015
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 10: of it was about, yeah, they'd have an indoor practice field.

1016
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: But another part of it was this was going.

1017
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 10: To be a lure for the big linemen that always

1018
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 10: seemed they existed in Indiana. They just went to Ohio State,

1019
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 10: Michigan and Illinois. But I think, you know, the team

1020
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 10: looks different, it plays different, and again I think it's

1021
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 10: also a team you can do proud of. I mean,

1022
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 10: there's no kind of hey, feelings, we've got to compartmentalize

1023
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 10: because we know this is a little bit icky. It's

1024
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 10: just kind of good vibes all around. Some of it

1025
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 10: to me was like, why did this take so long?

1026
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 10: You sort of go back through the decades and you

1027
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 10: sort of say, wait, there are a lot of assets here.

1028
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 10: Why did this take until twenty twenty five to be

1029
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 10: this competitive? But no, I think the coach gets a

1030
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 10: lot of credit. And now it seems kind of prepared.

1031
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 10: You guys know better than like you, but it seems

1032
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 10: kind of perpet to him. Now you're getting recruits and

1033
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 10: you're getting exposure, and now it's kind of you know,

1034
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 10: in other sports, it can be a fluky, one hit wonder,

1035
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 10: but football is so structural that you kind of get

1036
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 10: the feeling that now things are only going to pick

1037
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 10: up from here.

1038
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: John, When I look at this IU team, I mean

1039
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: last year they had Curtis Works and he was a

1040
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: fine quarterback and NFL quarterback, And I had questions about

1041
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: Random Mendoza and his ability to take over for Curtis,

1042
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: and he has only taken over very well. But he

1043
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: is the first Heisman Trophy winner in IU history. So

1044
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 4: we can talk about having a team to like or

1045
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: or feel good about rooting for. How much of he is?

1046
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 4: He a part of that because he seems like the

1047
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: nicest kid ever. But he's also a killer.

1048
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 5: He's yeah, exactly. I mean it's kind of this.

1049
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 10: It also struck me they're very there's a big overlap

1050
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 10: with the Midwest. I mean, he's from Miami and he

1051
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 10: played at Cal, but he seems like a real sort

1052
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 10: of culturally, it's a nice fit. There's this underdog component

1053
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 10: to him too. I mean he said this, but you.

1054
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: Could have there is actually.

1055
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 10: I mean, if you said on September first, here are

1056
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 10: the top ten quarterbacks that are.

1057
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 5: Going to contend for the Heisman, is he on that list?

1058
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: Probably not so.

1059
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 10: I think his journey really mirrors that of Indiana too,

1060
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 10: and I think that's part of this story as well.

1061
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 10: Not a lot not to like about this team was

1062
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 10: kind of one of my one of my takeaways. Yeah,

1063
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 10: and it starts with a quarterback. And I also think,

1064
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 10: you know, you look at the transfer portal. The one

1065
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 10: thing I heard before I even started reporting was this

1066
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 10: program is really they've gotten some money, and they've gotten

1067
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 10: Cuban the step up, and they've invested in football, and

1068
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 10: coach Signetty really makes good use of the transfer portal.

1069
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 5: But look at that roster.

1070
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 10: I mean I don't in front of me, you know,

1071
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 10: it's Western Kentucky, it's Navy Northern Illinois. It's not all

1072
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 10: starting quarterbacks of cal who went to a ball game.

1073
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 10: A lot of these players that came to the transfer

1074
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 10: portal really were developed when they got to Bloomington, and

1075
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 10: I wonder if that isn't part of the story that

1076
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 10: has been overlooked a little bit.

1077
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: John Worth, I'm sixty minutes joining us here on the

1078
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: Fan morning show, and John, one of the things I

1079
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: was fascinated by this too little things. Sometimes I need

1080
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: to know more about John Mellencamp's private little crow's nest

1081
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: up there.

1082
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: How cool was that to hang out in there?

1083
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's as much you know, he said this.

1084
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 10: I don't think I'm violating any confidentiality. I think it's

1085
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 10: is much about open air where he can smoke.

1086
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: Than anything else. But yeah, I mean, who knew that?

1087
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 10: Above the premiere you sort of see this shackup of

1088
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 10: the press box and you say, oh, I don't know,

1089
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 10: maybe it's the the opposing team has got a camera

1090
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 10: up there, or it's for you know, the video coordinator

1091
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 10: for IU.

1092
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: Who knew that?

1093
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 10: You know, our Grammy winning Hall of Fame local musician

1094
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 10: is there watching games from his own little it's like

1095
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 10: an ice fishing hut. But also he really, I mean,

1096
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 10: I got to say to his credit. I mean he

1097
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 10: said he was web Seed, the Jasper High School mascot

1098
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 10: for the football team. So this is a guy whose

1099
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 10: relationship with football goes way back. This is not you know,

1100
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 10: some bandwagon fan who's now showing up if the team

1101
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 10: is undefeated. I mean, he sat through plenty of lopsided

1102
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 10: losses starting in the seventies, so he's earned this as

1103
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 10: much as any long suffering Indian a football fan.

1104
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: John Warth, I'm certainly a legendary name when it comes

1105
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: to journalism, business, sports journalism, and you saw the sixty

1106
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: minutes piece with him on an Indiana football on Sunday.

1107
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 4: John, It's funny.

1108
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, I was talking to our producer

1109
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: Mark and I said, you know, at some point here,

1110
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: as we get close to the nca tournament, we need

1111
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: to get John. Try to get John on, because I

1112
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: thought you wrote an excellent, excellent piece a few weeks

1113
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: back highlighting the nineteen seventy six Hoosiers and now the

1114
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: fifty years anniversary that we are in of that undefeated team.

1115
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: There are so many. Honestly, I'd love to have you

1116
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: on here maybe in a few months to dive a

1117
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: little bit deeper into that. While that that takes the

1118
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: back burner to Indiana football, but welcome to twenty twenty

1119
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: five here. Maybe just the anecdote that struck you the

1120
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: most in talking to the various players in that piece,

1121
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: because I thought there were just really several different things

1122
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: that were a great, great read in there.

1123
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 5: Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, I hope these guys. It's

1124
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: really funny. You're right.

1125
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 10: I mean, here we are in mid December, and like

1126
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 10: Indiana basketball, both you know, the current team, which is

1127
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 10: a good team, and this fifty year anniversary of the last

1128
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 10: one defeated teams, they've all been kind of subsumed by

1129
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 10: Heisman winning and an undefeated football team. I'm not sure

1130
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 10: who would have predicted that, but yeah, I mean it's

1131
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 10: been it's been fifty years now, which is crazy, since

1132
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 10: that the seventy sixth team. I'll tell you a quick

1133
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 10: funny story, which is I called Ken Benson and left

1134
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 10: a voicemel Hey I'm doing this story. I'd like to

1135
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 10: get some recollec and a half an hour later, he

1136
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 10: calls me back with Bob Wilkerson on the other line,

1137
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 10: because he wanted to be sure that his teammate like

1138
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 10: shared his reflections and got his glory as well. And

1139
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 10: I'm thinking, you know, fifty years later and these guys

1140
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 10: are probably in their early seventies and they still have

1141
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 10: you know, you, if my man beats me to the basket,

1142
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 10: don't worry because I got you. I mean, they still

1143
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 10: had this kind of got your back relationship.

1144
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I think part of it is just how.

1145
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 10: Extraordinary this this team was, how tough their schedule was.

1146
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 10: I don't think has been told enough. And also there

1147
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 10: really wasn't a star. I mean, I guess it would.

1148
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 10: You'd probably say it was Scott May and Ken Benson.

1149
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 10: But you look at the great teams in college football,

1150
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 10: i mean college basketball history, and there's you know, it's

1151
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 10: Kareem who goes on to become one of the great

1152
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 10: NBA players after UCLA, and you know, Jordan takes Carolina

1153
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 10: to the championship. I mean, I'm not sure any of

1154
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 10: the star. I think all starting five has played in

1155
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 10: the NBA, but I don't think any of them average

1156
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 10: more than ten points. This was really very much in uh,

1157
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 10: you know, this was really a Bob Knight team and

1158
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 10: there wasn't a standout player. There wasn't a guy who

1159
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 10: reliably was giving you thirty points a night. But they

1160
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 10: were all versatile, they all played defense, and they all

1161
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 10: did it together. You don't, you know, see a lot

1162
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 10: of championship dynastic teams formed that way. And I mean, also,

1163
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 10: I got a hot take for you. But here here's

1164
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 10: something I also I was thinking when I was in

1165
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 10: Indiana last week, which is, you know, right about this,

1166
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 10: I wonder if the success of the football team now

1167
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 10: isn't bringing some measure of closure to the Bob Knight fago,

1168
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 10: which remained an open wound as you.

1169
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: Know, well after he left.

1170
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 10: I got the feeling that coach Sigg is sort of

1171
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 10: the best of Bob Knight, and the successful football is

1172
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 10: actually kind of helping to heal this, uh this hug

1173
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 10: your nation that's still in some some ways hasn't quite

1174
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 10: gotten over or process the Bob Knight departure. I felt

1175
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 10: like I had closure on the Bob Knight era through

1176
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 10: the football team.

1177
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: Do you buy that walked out to Griffy Lake and

1178
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: they had to sacrifice the IU basketball team in order

1179
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: to be good at football. Could you appreciate that maybe.

1180
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 10: Well, that's a great analogy and a great reference. Man,

1181
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 10: I wish I thought of that. Yeah, I mean, I

1182
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 10: just got the feeling that, you know, coach Sig reminds

1183
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 10: people of the best of Bob Knight without the chair throwing,

1184
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 10: And it's kind of like, you know, we do things

1185
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 10: differently here and the hard ass coach can still thrive

1186
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 10: and accountability still matters, and in some ways this football

1187
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 10: team is a validation of coach Night and what he

1188
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 10: stood for. In some ways it's the repudiation, but it

1189
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 10: seems like the you know, the tribe has come back

1190
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 10: together and it didn't wasn't a basketball team.

1191
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 5: That did it. But that's just that was just my

1192
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 5: fence on the ground.

1193
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: Yes, No, I think it's really well said. Don Fisher

1194
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: comes on Are Now to three show here with Jay

1195
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: Querry every Monday, and I was listening to him a

1196
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: couple of days ago and he mentioned the feeling he

1197
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: has right now with Kurtzignette and the football program is

1198
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: reminiscent of the Night era in that simply, I just

1199
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: don't think we're ever going to lose which is about

1200
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: as high of praise as you could ever garner for

1201
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: either the team you cover or like fans are natural

1202
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: skeptics like that. I mean, that's fandom and skepticism might

1203
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: as well go hand in hand. And for you to

1204
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: believe that about the team that you cheer for, let

1205
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: alone it be in the Indiana University football program is

1206
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: just light years into amazing.

1207
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 5: That's that's that's well put.

1208
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 10: And again, I mean, I just you know, two years

1209
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 10: ago there were three Kurzignetti arrived because the team won

1210
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 10: one of its nine Big Ten games.

1211
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 5: The speed of this.

1212
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 10: Turnaround and how thorough it is and how it doesn't

1213
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 10: seem to be dependent on one studio shack goes to LSU. Okay, fine,

1214
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 10: but it doesn't. It seems much more sort of bottom

1215
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 10: up and organic. Then hey, we got lucky and got

1216
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 10: this one star player and then we're going to go

1217
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 10: back to Indiana State nineteen eighty. The speed of all

1218
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 10: this was part of the story too. And I'm not

1219
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 10: sure you know Night Night was already had a solid

1220
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 10: program in the early seventies, but yeah, it's just it

1221
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 10: was really fun to see again, you guys know, the

1222
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 10: sun of than I do, but two years ago, I

1223
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 10: don't think anyone was thinking. Boy, if Indiana doesn't complete

1224
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 10: this undefeated season, it's going to be disappointing. They beat

1225
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 10: Ohio State and take over the number one ranking. The

1226
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 10: fact that this sal came out of nowhere makes it

1227
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 10: special as well.

1228
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 3: John, thanks for your time this morning. We appreciate it

1229
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: more than you know.

1230
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: Great job on the piece this past Sunday night, and

1231
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: we look forward to seeing more of your work in

1232
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: the future.

1233
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 5: As always, you got it. I appreciate it. Go who's yours?

1234
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: There you go, John, we'reth on sixty minutes piece this

1235
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: best Sunday night and it was fun to watch. We

1236
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: could go on and on with him, but it also

1237
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: again Bernano Mendoza comes off in that piece like he's

1238
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: not rehearsed, he doesn't have this standard just going to

1239
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: say what I'm supposed to say lines. He's enthusiastic, and

1240
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: he's honest, and he's raw, and he's.

1241
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: Just fun to listen to, as much fun to listen

1242
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: to as he is to watch.

1243
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: KB Mark when you get John on as we get

1244
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: closer to March Madness, because that PC wrote on the

1245
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: seventy six Zooge was really really good. There's the anecdote

1246
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: he shared about Ken Benson and Bobby Wilkerson was just

1247
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: one of about four or five things I thought was

1248
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: really interesting in that piece. You know, I was reminded

1249
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: about Mendoza the other day. Guys, Indiana, by all accounts,

1250
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: secured Fernando Mendoza on Christmas Eve last year, and you

1251
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: think to how this new era of college football plays out.

1252
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: The Mendoza transfer portal situation had Indiana and then Georgia

1253
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: and Miami with the other two, and you think back

1254
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: to Christmas Eve last year, Indiana had been eliminated, Miami

1255
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: was still in this awkward situation about wait a minute,

1256
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: what about the kid from Georgia and Carson Beck and

1257
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: where's his injury status? Well, Georgia was obviously dealing with

1258
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: Carson Beck's injury at the itself, but they're getting ready

1259
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: to play Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl and they

1260
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: had this gun or Stockton, which is like, is he

1261
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings? Is he not waiting in the wings?

1262
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's what makes the college football world

1263
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: super fascinated and frankly scary right now. Like you, I

1264
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys have seen this, but over

1265
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: the last few days, you know, some of these quarterbacks

1266
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 2: have announced they're in the transfer portal. Some of these

1267
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: guys that have had whatever former five star recruits or

1268
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: they've had a flash or two in Indiana's name is

1269
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: listed with some of them, and it's like, wait a minute,

1270
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: is it not going to the Mendoza brother. Are they

1271
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: really having to double dip right now, like get ready

1272
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: for your playoff game?

1273
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: And to be honest, they probably do, but also your

1274
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: life service.

1275
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: If you didn't wait a minute, we need to go

1276
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: get the Arizona State kid and Sam Levit or you

1277
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: know Brendan Sorosby, as crazy as that story would be

1278
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: if he were to come back to Indiana, he's on

1279
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: that list. DJ Lagway, who you know people thought had

1280
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: some Manthea Richardson vibes to him at Florida. You know

1281
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: he entered the transfer portal. It's such a wild time,

1282
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: I think for these programs, especially in the midst of

1283
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: a playoff race. You're trying to secure potentially your quarterback

1284
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 2: for next year, and you would think these quarterbacks would

1285
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: be knocking down Kurt Signetti's door to want to play

1286
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: for Indiana, But then the awkward nature of like, well,

1287
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: what about Alberta Mendozo? Is he not the guy or

1288
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: is he? It just it's a really weird time. I

1289
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: feel like for a lot of these programs.

1290
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: It strikes me though, as you talk about getting the

1291
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: Mendoza on Christmas Eve at Santa Claus, does he looks

1292
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: he could?

1293
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: He could show up and fit in color wise enough.

1294
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: Miami and Georgia, but certainly in the gifts to Indiana.

1295
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Santa looks Crimson and Cream the rest of

1296
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: the rest of his days.

1297
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1298
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: The other thing I was too thinking about, is you know,

1299
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: we give these playoff games started this weekend. Can you

1300
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: imagine if James Madison would have kept the Indiana dudes?

1301
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: James Madison's in.

1302
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: The playoff and they have all those other guys too.

1303
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: Elijah Surat, uh Kel Kamara, di'angelo, Pond's, Tyree Tuck. I mean,

1304
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 2: the list goes on and on, Black the running back.

1305
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean, of Indiana's top what ten players, seven of

1306
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: them are jmu guys. The number one team in the

1307
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: nation has seven transfers from the biggest Cinderella in the

1308
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: college football playoff, Like, if JM you had those guys,

1309
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: would we be talking about them as like a Gonzaga

1310
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: Butler type of run.

1311
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, because Kurt Signetti built JM you

1312
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: with those guys and he brought him to Indiana, I'm

1313
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: going to say that he's a pretty big part of

1314
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: their secret lame.

1315
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: But Jamu is in the playoff without him. I mean, like,

1316
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: obviously Signette's done a lot, but you know, credits to

1317
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: Bubble or uh whatever his name is, Bubbles, but he

1318
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: as a commissioner, I think. But yeah, it just I

1319
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: not that I think in football, I guess to say it,

1320
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: it's much more difficult to get on that run.

1321
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: I was gonna say that's my only pushback to ad,

1322
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: Like the Cinderella run is really hard for football because

1323
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: the physicality ultimately usually decides who wins. Together depth you

1324
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: pointed out the skill position is never really the issue

1325
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to any of these.

1326
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: But they've got trench dudes playing for Indiana.

1327
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: And that's the whole point.

1328
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had those guys Ponds.

1329
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

1330
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's quite amazing story that you know, we'll

1331
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: obviously James Madison fairs against Oregon.

1332
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: But will we see a donation to JMU like we

1333
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: saw for Florida and Tulane?

1334
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: Did you see that share the story for those.

1335
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: So the I forget what his name is, the new

1336
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: to Florida football John John John Somerrall who came over

1337
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: from Tulane actually donated one hundred thousand dollars back to

1338
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: Tulane for their football fund. And that, to me encompasses

1339
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: how crazy this world is that we live in now

1340
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: with nil and the amount of money that's made and

1341
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 4: I guess coaches trying to do right by their previous programs.

1342
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: But that that to me, it was even kind of

1343
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 4: like weird but cool. So yeah, this situation, you.

1344
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: Know, basketball has the same issue. I think Matt Paynter

1345
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: has told this story. I believe last year so Perdue

1346
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: beat was it McNeice in the second round? Did Perdue

1347
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: beat last year to give the sweet sixteen? I think

1348
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: it was them. So they're getting ready to play Houston

1349
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: here in the sweet sixteen and Painter's telling the story

1350
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: of like he had to spend whatever a chunk of

1351
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: that next week recruiting Oscar Cluff for this coming year. Yeah,

1352
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: like would we talk in This is probably more of

1353
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: an off season question when we talk about guardrails that

1354
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: are needed in college athletics. Right now, Kurtz Signetty shouldn't

1355
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: have to be worrying about his quarterback for next year.

1356
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Matt Painter in a tournament run shouldn't have to be

1357
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: worried about his potential center for the next season. Can

1358
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: we create some sort of window that is once the

1359
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: season ends? Like that to me is.

1360
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: Just that's what the coaches want to That should be

1361
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: a simple ask.

1362
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean nothing frankly as simple with any of

1363
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: this right now. But I think at the bare medal

1364
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 2: on that Sue be there.

1365
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 7: All right.

1366
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: We'll get back to some of this a little bit

1367
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: later on coming up at nine o'clock. Stephen Holder ninet

1368
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 1: thirty Jeff George the Christmas quarterback, looking forward to talking

1369
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: to him. But right now, Mark, let's check it.

1370
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Speaker 8: Down the morning Checkdown on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 8: oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: The fan Indiana sitting and waiting for college football. Right

1373
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: now they have a first round by as the number

1374
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: one seed in the college football Playoff.

1375
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: Friday night things start off.

1376
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: They'll get the winner of Oklahoma and Alabama James Boyd

1377
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: Friday night we start this thing.

1378
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: Preference on who the Hoosiers play one way or the other.

1379
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: I think I would like to see them play Alabama

1380
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 4: just because of the history of the SEC and all

1381
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: the talk you hear about how much better football is

1382
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: down there. If they're playing Alabama, a program that we

1383
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: know has won multi national championships recently and knocked them off,

1384
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 4: it would just irritate that part.

1385
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 5: Of the country.

1386
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: That would be fun.

1387
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: On Saturday, Kevin, it'll be Miami against Texas to laying

1388
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: against Ole Miss and the previously mentioned James Madison taking

1389
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: on Oregon.

1390
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami A and M. Miami, Texas A and M

1391
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: in that matchup there, I say, Texas, Yeah, Texas A

1392
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: and M. You're right offend any of our Aggie fans

1393
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: out there. No, let's offend him. By the way, arch

1394
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: mannon coming back.

1395
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: That was announced yesterday too.

1396
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: Texas.

1397
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that all starts Friday.

1398
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: Night and then the three games on Saturday, and you

1399
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: will sit and wait and find out what happens in

1400
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: that Friday night game between Alabama and Oklahoma. College basketball.

1401
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: Last night, Butler on the road at Yukon and Hartford.

1402
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: They lose seventy nine to sixty despite taking an early

1403
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: nine to two lead after that defense and solo ball

1404
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: the name for the twenty six point leading score for Yukon.

1405
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: That was an impressive young man man. He was firing threes,

1406
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: he was getting to the hoop. It was fun to

1407
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: watch him, even though Butler was losing. That kid can play.

1408
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely and the name solo ball feels like a good

1409
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: one if you're a Hooper, So shout out to his parents.

1410
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: All right, getting ready for the Indie Classic on Saturday

1411
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: in college basketball, Butler will take on Northwestern and then

1412
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Purdue against Auburn. You can watch it on eeacock or

1413
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: buy tickets and go see it at the Fieldhouse.

1414
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 9: KB.

1415
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so again, this is the new Crossroads Classic, if

1416
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: you will. We used to have this with Indiana, Purdue

1417
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame and Butler and Purdue. Butler the only

1418
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: two that decided to stick with it. And I really

1419
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: missed that Saturday. I understand why Indiana Notre Dame did

1420
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: what they did. I don't love it, though, so for

1421
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: purdueing Butler. Obviously, the Boiler's really good non conference even

1422
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: with the Iowa State game. They can get another neutral

1423
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: quality win over all Burn and Butler. It wouldn't be

1424
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: the same with Northwestern necessarily, but still, you know, again

1425
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: it's away from home, and it is against a big

1426
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: ten team. I want to say Northwestern seven and four.

1427
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: And remember Northwestern Tray Singleton from Jeffersonville this year this

1428
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: past year and kJ Windham from over at Ben Davis there.

1429
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: So Northwestern's had several Indiana guys under Chris Collins, and

1430
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: they've got a couple of playing for him this year.

1431
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: All Right, NBA Cup last night comes to a close.

1432
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: The championship for twenty twenty five well belong to the

1433
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: New York Knicks.

1434
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: They got twenty eight points.

1435
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: Nine rebounds from Ognaoby to beat the San Antonio Spurs

1436
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: one twenty four, one thirteen. Jalen Brunson off also through

1437
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: in twenty five points and KB. Maybe the Knicks will

1438
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: have an NBA Cup hangover when they come to town

1439
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: Thursday night.

1440
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: That's play the Pacers. That's a hope.

1441
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully they're still out partying right now out there in Vegas.

1442
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: So yes, they will take on the Pacers tomorrow night.

1443
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: And the Pacers are looking for their first win the

1444
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: season over a team above five hundred.

1445
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, as far as the cults are concerned, they

1446
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: are on a Monday night football week schedule, so off

1447
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: today for practice, but back at it tomorrow. And it

1448
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: looks again like Philip Rivers is going to be the

1449
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: starting quarterback JB.

1450
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't look like he will be. He is,

1451
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 4: That's what shang Styn told us Monday. So he will

1452
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 4: be starting game number two in his forty four years

1453
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: of age.

1454
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: And what's the hell status as far as we know

1455
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: it for Anthony Richardson at this point in time.

1456
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, clear to do football activities, So think of weightlifting, running, throwing.

1457
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: Does that mean he returns to practice tomorrow? Will Fishy

1458
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: officially find that out coming up tomorrow? But you know again,

1459
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: still for me it's are you back at practice? And

1460
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: then when are you cleared for a game? I think

1461
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: those are two very different and big hurdles still to

1462
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: be cleared here. So I don't think it's eminet with

1463
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: Richardson and.

1464
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: All college football.

1465
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: Charemia Love will leave Notre Dame and head to the

1466
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: National Football League. He's projected to be a first rounder

1467
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: at running back. He scored at least one touchdown in

1468
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's final eleven games. Kevin and in case you

1469
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: didn't realize, also went over one hundred yard rushing mark

1470
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: six times on his way to winning.

1471
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: The Dope Walker Award. I don't know if you were

1472
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: aware of any of that.

1473
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I love them all right, Anything.

1474
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: Else, James you want to throw in all? She wrote, KB.

1475
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 2: I think that covers that you mentioned Iu Anddy's big

1476
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: one last night.

1477
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: I did not go ahead and throw that out there.

1478
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: At some school in Ohio, Miami something rather one twenty

1479
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: one I think to like seventy five or something. I

1480
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: had never heard of this school. That was a great

1481
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: summary some team from somewhere. Let me see if I

1482
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: can find it here. Miami Middletown. Have you guys ever

1483
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: heard of that.

1484
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: I've not heard of Miami Middletown.

1485
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 4: No, you've mentioned Miami in Ohio. I thought on Miami

1486
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 4: of Ohio. But clearly that is.

1487
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: Not one twenty six to seventy three.

1488
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 4: The Miami Middletown thunder Hawks.

1489
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Edwards Cathedo product leading aundy nineteen points last night.

1490
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 7: I liked that.

1491
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: Also, we can tell you that Evansville lost to Belmont

1492
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: yesterday since you're going there. Northwestern beat Valpo, and of

1493
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: course Yukon over Butler.

1494
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: Seventy nine to sixty. That's what's happening in the world

1495
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 3: of sports.

1496
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: Coming up in a minute, we'll talk a little bit

1497
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: more about the Colts getting ready for the San Francisco

1498
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. You can hit us up at two

1499
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: three ninety ten seventy either on the text line or

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 1: the phone line. It's all straight ahead ninety three five

1501
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: one on seveny five of the Fan. Good morning, and

1502
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: welcome into a Wednesday. It's the Fan Morning Show. James Boyd,

1503
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, Jeff Rickard, Mark Dyken. Doing a nice job

1504
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: herding cats back there today. I'm impressed with the way

1505
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: you pulled it together over there.

1506
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: A couple of them impede on my leg already.

1507
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 3: Though, Well yeah, that's how it works. You just deal

1508
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: with it and you move on. But God's plan.

1509
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:55,479
Speaker 9: Mark.

1510
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, fun to talk to John Worth. I'm good job

1511
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: coov John Worth.

1512
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: Tim from sixty Minutes was on a few minutes ago

1513
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: talking about his piece on the Indiana Who's your football team?

1514
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder coming up top of the hour, Jeff George

1515
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: at nine thirty and about ten minutes from now, we'll

1516
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: continue to count down our top ten Indiana sports stories

1517
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: of the year. Colts getting ready for a Monday night

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: game against the San Francisco forty nine ers. And when

1519
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: you think about all the crazy things that have happened

1520
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: in this regular season, we used to talk about the fact, Kevin,

1521
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: that would you have said in the middle of August,

1522
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: could you have believe that the team would be seven

1523
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: to one and lighting up the scoreboard and scoring on

1524
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: almost every possession all the time? And we're like, man,

1525
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: nobody saw that coming. How about this for Daniel Jones,

1526
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: he's been revived. This is the first round quarterback we

1527
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: all thought we were going to see when he was drafted, right,

1528
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: And Jonathan Taylor's running wild all over everybody. Since that

1529
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: seven and one start, they are one and five. So

1530
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: now you go get forty four year old Philip Rivers

1531
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: off the couch and he comes in and he almost

1532
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: gets you upsot. That went against the Seattle Seahawks. Like,

1533
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: there's nothing about this season you could have predicted back

1534
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: in August?

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 9: Is there?

1536
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the clip of hard Knocks those

1537
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: teams talking about Philip Rivers?

1538
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I've not seen that.

1539
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 4: That was actually pretty funny.

1540
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: So Hard Knocks is the NFC East teams, and they

1541
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: had clips from all four of them, so obviously whatever Cowboys, Giants, Commanders,

1542
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: and Eagles, and each of them had the behind the

1543
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 2: scenes look at their reaction to Philip Rivers coming back

1544
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: to play, and it was quite funny seeing Dak Prescott

1545
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: and Nick Sirianni and you know, these people react to

1546
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: the story of the NFL just like we are, and

1547
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: just like we have been over the last handful of days.

1548
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: I am curious, and I guess I'll throw this question

1549
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: to you, guys. Shane Stakeing on Monday beyond adamant that

1550
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: the game plan will be different for San Francisco, So

1551
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: I ask you what will be different?

1552
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 1: Do we see more of those passes like a into

1553
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. I know there was the look like a

1554
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: miscommunication on the Josh downs when he was open and.

1555
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: Didn't quite happen there. Do we see more types of

1556
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: throws like that?

1557
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: Do you think James.

1558
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: Harris was just one back shoulder. I mean, it's not

1559
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: like they did a whole lot of normal Alec Pier stuff.

1560
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 3: No, but it was longer than ten yards was my

1561
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: point that was there.

1562
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 4: I think it was only his second target of the

1563
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 4: game outside of the one where he got the pass

1564
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 4: interference drawn. I don't know, Kevin, and I hate to

1565
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 4: give the answer on the show, but like, I think

1566
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 4: this is one of the things where we have to

1567
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 4: challenge Shane and company to show us because nothing about

1568
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 4: his arm talent, at least Daunton and I saw Sunday,

1569
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 4: gave me reason to believe there's more there. I didn't

1570
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 4: feel that way about it, and I understand that your

1571
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 4: identity of that game was to run the ball and

1572
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 4: ground and pound and try to play the possession game,

1573
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 4: and it nearly worked. But in a few moments, I like,

1574
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that if you had a healthy Daniel Jones,

1575
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 4: or if you had a healthy Anthey Richardson for that matter,

1576
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 4: that you wouldn't have taken more shots down the field,

1577
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: even within that very conservative skiing.

1578
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: We've talked about this with Pierce a lot. I tweet

1579
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: this out pretty much every time Pierce gets targeted. Of

1580
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: good things happen when you target Alec Pierce, and by

1581
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 2: that I mean either Alec Pierce catches it or these

1582
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: teams just pass interference Alec peerce endlessly.

1583
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he might actually lead the league in that category.

1584
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 4: As far as pass drug him.

1585
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: I mean it is impressive how much. And again his

1586
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: competitive spirit and going after the ball. We touched on

1587
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: this a little bit Monday. You know, there was a

1588
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: play from Seattle in the game where they threw to

1589
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed down the near sideline. It could have been

1590
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: called a flag, but I don't think Shaheed showed any

1591
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 2: sort of effort in trying to make the catch, whereas Pierce,

1592
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: you know, his flag man. Maybe it was a fifty

1593
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 2: to fifty call, but Pierce is so competitive and trying

1594
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: to make the catch that he gets that flag drawn.

1595
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: So to me, when I asked that question, I think

1596
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: to myself, this is it more of like the Josh

1597
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: Downs double move stuff, Like is that what we're going

1598
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: to see, you know, kind of one of those like

1599
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: intermediate balls or are we actually going to see like

1600
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: go balls to Alec Pears like true home run trying

1601
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 2: to get Pierce down the field. And again, how is

1602
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 2: now San Francisco going to defend that? Because if you

1603
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: want to look at the longest throws rivers may take

1604
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: out the last play of the game. If you want

1605
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: to look at the longest throws he made in the game,

1606
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: what was it, Warren down the scene for what probably

1607
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: twelve yards in the air.

1608
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see more of it down

1609
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: the seam throws where you can get a guy who's

1610
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: does that make you nervous in the middle of the

1611
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: field kind of, But if you with his timing, if

1612
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: he can get the ball there, And that's the to

1613
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: your question. But to me, the next step forward realistically

1614
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: is can you start to hit especially when a team

1615
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: is playing some zone or a guy's getting passed off

1616
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: from one guy to another, can you hit him in

1617
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,919
Speaker 1: that It's that precise moment where he is quote unquote

1618
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: open in that scene, Kevin, to me, that would be

1619
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: the next evolution.

1620
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I think it's vital you play from ahead.

1621
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: I mean, for the most part they did that throughout

1622
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: in Seattle. I think if you get behind on the scoreboard,

1623
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: then it just especially if you're down two offensive tackles,

1624
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: then it could get dicey real real quick. I think

1625
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: that was part of the reason why Shane took the

1626
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: ball out in Seattle is he wanted to play from ahead.

1627
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 2: He wanted to try and you know, lead clock and

1628
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: I know Shane has done that a lot, but I

1629
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: didn't think there was a particular focus. But again, it's

1630
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: just got to be it's got to be more than

1631
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: the dinosaur offense. It can't just be run, run, hope

1632
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: that it's third and four and then Rivers fits the

1633
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 2: ball into a tight window.

1634
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that won't work very long.

1635
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: Two three, nine, ten seventy. The fan text line Dave

1636
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: from beach Grove says, gentlemen, considering the Colts went from

1637
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: seven to one to eight and six, does it really

1638
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback is right now? David beach Grove

1639
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: sounds very down and depressed about the Colts. Can we

1640
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 1: help him out a little bit, James or he onto

1641
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: something there?

1642
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 4: Well, when you lose four straight and five or last six,

1643
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 4: there's not much hope there anyway. But I will say

1644
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 4: the reason why I still a conversation for me at least,

1645
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 4: and while I'm entertaining the idea of Philip Rivers finding

1646
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: away against the forty nine ers or perhaps Anthony Richardson

1647
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: coming back and playing this year, is because you still

1648
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,480
Speaker 4: have a chance, and I believe they won't be mathematically

1649
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 4: eliminated this week even with the loss, so it'll be

1650
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 4: a conversation next week as well, and until they drop

1651
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 4: some more games. And so I think from that standpoint,

1652
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 4: you still have to analyze it as if you have

1653
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 4: a chance to get into the dance and trust and

1654
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: believe that is the approach to the culture taking. And

1655
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 4: as I said after the game I talk to you

1656
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 4: all Monday over the phone, that locker room did feel

1657
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 4: like they had found something. I don't know how much

1658
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: that it's worth because you still lost the game, but

1659
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 4: it felt more hopeful and more like we can do

1660
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 4: this versus after the Jacksonville Jaguars loss, where it was like, boy,

1661
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 4: is it over right now?

1662
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: By the way, did you guys see that your boy

1663
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: Michael Badgeley has found a home?

1664
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 5: No?

1665
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 4: I did see that he's with Buffalo now.

1666
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: Like well, Badgely gonna kick for the playoff bound Buffalo Bills.

1667
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: I believe Matt Prater's week to week with a quad injury. There, So,

1668
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: Michael Badgeley, are.

1669
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 4: You gonna call their coaching staff and give them any tips?

1670
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: I think I'll live in the Blake groupie world and

1671
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 2: be very content with that, right, now'll.

1672
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 4: Sell you what Blake groupy stock is very high right now.

1673
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: Justin says we won't see anything different. We're just used

1674
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: to Shane's DS of an exclamation. We haven't seen anything

1675
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: different from them at all.

1676
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: It will be the same result.

1677
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm a little nervous in the DS.

1678
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't even know what that means.

1679
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: I don't either, I'm just reading it there.

1680
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: Well, think good like an animal. What is popping into

1681
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: my head is probably not what I can say out loud,

1682
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 2: so we probably should move on.

1683
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we continue to look at

1684
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: the top ten stories in the sports world.

1685
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 3: Of Indianapolis and Indiana.

1686
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: Coming up in just a moment here, Stay with us

1687
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: as we continue on a Wednesday morning, It's ninety three

1688
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: five and one oh seven to five of the fan up.

1689
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: Your Wednesdays off to a terrific start as we edge

1690
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: closer and closer to a big week out of sports, starting.

1691
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 3: With a college football playoff.

1692
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: Alabama Oklahoma winner gets to Indiana on Friday night, three

1693
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,959
Speaker 1: more playoff games on Saturday, of course, the Indie Classic

1694
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: college basketball game happening at the Fieldhouse, and get the

1695
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: Knicks coming to town. Tomorrow night for the Indiana Pacers,

1696
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: and then the Colts on a Monday night game against

1697
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Once again going back to it's just an

1698
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: unbelievable place for sports here, Kevin, unbelievable place for sports marketing.

1699
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 2: Word on Joe Buck potentially joining us, I have been

1700
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: told by an email I received about five minutes ago.

1701
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: I should know within the next few hours looking forward. No,

1702
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: how about that? So maybe on Monday Joe Buck with

1703
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: Colts and forty nine ers here. Jeff, you want to

1704
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 2: start us off here with number ten since we gave

1705
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: our yeah ten yesterday. Again, these are top Indiana sports

1706
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: stories of the twenty twenty five calendar year. We started

1707
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: with ten. Jeff wasn't here yesterday, so go ahead and

1708
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: share with us what you.

1709
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 3: Got, all right, I will go with my number ten.

1710
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: It's high school football, and there's some high school football

1711
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: on my list all year long. I kind of had

1712
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: to share it because we had back to back champions

1713
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: Brownsburg in six A one of the most impressive high

1714
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: school football teams I've seen here in a long long time.

1715
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 1: And I got to also give a shout out to

1716
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: newpal who went up a class Kevin and Still won

1717
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: a state championship in five A. So to me, those

1718
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: two teams were my co number ten stories of the

1719
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 1: year high school football.

1720
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: A lot of high school flavor in the ten category.

1721
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: Fours Miles McLoughlin from Mark and I James went with,

1722
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: speaking of last night, Raylan Mullens and Luke Rdle in

1723
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: that epic game in Munsi's field.

1724
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 5: Number nine?

1725
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: Was that eighty Mitchell? Or was that just dark countdown?

1726
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: That wasn't the catch count? Now, Jeff, did you see

1727
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: the touchdown grab? I did meet it on Sunday. I'm

1728
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: not surprised you said that's why you were off yesterday.

1729
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: You went to New York to go buy an authentic eighty.

1730
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: I did have to go buy him a drink, That's

1731
01:16:59,360 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 3: what happened.

1732
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: Yes, are the kids getting ad Mitchell signed jerseys?

1733
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a football?

1734
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1735
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1736
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: The Sauce Gardener video of that kid getting the Sauce

1737
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: jersey maybe sounds kodd.

1738
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 9: Mark.

1739
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: What do you got for number nine? Well, you just

1740
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: kind of mentioned his name.

1741
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 6: The Colts trading for Sauce Gardner is my number nine,

1742
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 6: So I might say that seems a low low. I

1743
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 6: would also say, it's kind of an incomplete because he's

1744
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 6: been injured and all that stuff, but sent two future

1745
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 6: first round picks to the New York Jets as well

1746
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 6: as ad Mitchell Sauce Gardener to the Colts is my

1747
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 6: number nine.

1748
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: But again, he's been.

1749
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 6: Banged up, so I'm kind of it's why it's lower

1750
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 6: on my top ten because it happened at the trade deadline.

1751
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 6: But there also just hasn't been a lot of body

1752
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 6: of work that we've been able to evaluate how good

1753
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,839
Speaker 6: of a trade this really is. And obviously the injuries

1754
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 6: to Daniel Jones and whatnot leave the quarterback.

1755
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: Situation up in the air for the Colts. So that

1756
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: is my number nine. You know, one thing I enjoyed

1757
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: doing this, you know, top ten list every year is

1758
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: like you think of things. You know other people have

1759
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 2: things you didn't think of it. I didn't even think

1760
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: of that Mark, And like, that is a great story.

1761
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a I mean it's one of

1762
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: the biggest trades in franchise history. Yeah, so yeah, I

1763
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: think that's very deserving on that list.

1764
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 7: There.

1765
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 2: I'll go next. You know, I would say in the

1766
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 2: state of Indiana, arguably the job that has the most

1767
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: attention on it, which might be changing, is the men's

1768
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,839
Speaker 2: basketball coach in Bloomington. So when I think of sports

1769
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: stories of the year, the firing of Mike Woodson, the

1770
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: hiring of Darren Devrees, to me deserves a spot on

1771
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: the list. So I went with number nine here the

1772
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 2: degrees higher. I know it maybe didn't come with the

1773
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: fanfare of other hires. You know, certainly Woodson, you know

1774
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: from a you know, Hoosier standpoint, former player, speaking of

1775
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: the seventy sixteen you know that gets you know, put

1776
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 2: on that list. But to me, just that new story

1777
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: of still in our state while we have a lot

1778
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 2: of great, great coaches, and whether it is Rick Carlisle

1779
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: or Matt Pain or Marcus Freeman or certainly Kurt Signetti,

1780
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Stephanie White, the list can go on and on the

1781
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: fact that you are still the men's basketball coach in Bloomington,

1782
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: I think is a big, big story. So Mike Woodson

1783
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: out Darren Devrees in number nine on the list.

1784
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 5: For me.

1785
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 3: JB.

1786
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with the high school basketball scene and

1787
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: roll with Jeffersonville knocking off Fishers in the Class four

1788
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 4: A state championship. Ended Fishers in their forty three game

1789
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 4: winning streak. One bye, I believe one in overtime. It

1790
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 4: was that one Tray Singleton, the Northwestern recruit, had a

1791
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 4: huge game for SIS. Yes, so kind of a full

1792
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 4: circle moment for him. But yeah, just an epic moment

1793
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 4: I didn't get I went to the state finals that

1794
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: day for the early games and then watch the I

1795
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 4: think we had a roach over something. I might have

1796
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 4: been like right after the next day, so I watched

1797
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 4: that one and streamed it from home via the I

1798
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 4: say app. But yeah, that was great, man. I just

1799
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 4: enjoyed that atmosphere or the entire day. And obviously you

1800
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: get a chance to make some history and you go

1801
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: down as a legend and we knock off the number

1802
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 4: one team in the state in that fashion. To win

1803
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 4: your first state championship in quite some time.

1804
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: And the head coach coming back to win a state

1805
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: championship with his alma mater was just a great was there.

1806
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: I had a chance to call that game and it was.

1807
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: It lived up to every expectation and billing. It was

1808
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: a lot focus se Will.

1809
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was, you know, mister basketball, and they got

1810
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 4: that actually stripped from him because of some stuff that

1811
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 4: went down, didn't have the greatest tenure, I believe at

1812
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 4: I you with Bob Knight and really had a chance

1813
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 4: to kind of redeem himself and he so that anybody

1814
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: can kind of you know, rewrote their story after willing

1815
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 4: to love.

1816
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: That my number nine. I'm going to stay at high school.

1817
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: You guys talked about it yesterday, but Miles McLoughlin breaking

1818
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: not just the state career rushing record with eleven eight

1819
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine yards, but the national single season

1820
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: record four eight hundred and forty six rushing yards as

1821
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: a senior Knox thirteen and one. They didn't quite get

1822
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: to the state championship and win that, but I don't

1823
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: know that I've ever seen in my life. Honestly, I've

1824
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: never seen a more up close and personal successful high

1825
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: school football season. James just amazing. Might have even been

1826
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: could have been higher on the list, to be honest

1827
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: with you, but I'll put it at.

1828
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 3: My number nine.

1829
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: So it's kind of where we're at and we will

1830
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: be out this down as we get through the end

1831
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: of the year. And again, going back to what I

1832
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: said at the start, Kevin, there so many great stories

1833
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: that you think Okay, this won't be too bad to

1834
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: come up with your top ten. But after the first

1835
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 1: three or four kind of obvious ones.

1836
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: You go, man, there's a lot of really great things

1837
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 3: that happened this past year.

1838
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes for a great debate. Again, I thought Mark

1839
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: a very nice job and putting that trade on there.

1840
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: I get there right now. It's a little incomplete, but

1841
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: just from a news story. I mean, it was.

1842
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 6: Shockwaves around the NFL and this news came out just now.

1843
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 6: It's too late to crack my top ten. But do

1844
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 6: you see Cincinnati basketball adding Gisel James to their roster?

1845
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.

1846
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 11: See that, the son of Egrin James, the legs of

1847
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 11: it back on their roster, I believe, if I remember

1848
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 11: correctly of Jizzle's story, if it wasn't Max, it was

1849
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 11: going to be Jigsele.

1850
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: So that was kind of the Bowen family debate we

1851
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: had a few years ago. So book, Yeah, names, it

1852
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: could have been you know again, girl boy girl, we

1853
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: would have had maybe a boy here instead of now.

1854
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, is jigsel unisex name? Can Can that

1855
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: go both ways?

1856
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 4: I think so?

1857
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: Sure?

1858
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: It's whatever you wanted to be, brother, that's a great

1859
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 1: name and going to Cincinnati.

1860
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: A guess is it on the birth certificate? Is jigsel mark?

1861
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 3: Check that out?

1862
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me look at that. I'm sure the computer

1863
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 6: is gonna love me googling that. Drin gizzl James Junior.

1864
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 7: All right as.

1865
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 2: Well, test out the new computers here in the new building.

1866
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: Mark the firewalls off for now.

1867
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a moment, we will get

1868
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: back to talking. Colt Stephen Holder stops by. He covers

1869
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: the team for ESPN dot com. A frequent guest of ours.

1870
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 1: We always love having him. We'll talk to him about

1871
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: everything blue and white. Next ninety three five and.

1872
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: My Anna conduct doo, my Anna condut doo, my anna conduct.

1873
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 4: Don't want none unless you got buns on.

1874
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 3: Previously a fan morning show.

1875
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: Just taking another look at the Philip Rivers avatar in

1876
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: the Madden twenty six James.

1877
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,560
Speaker 3: I put some junk in that truck for that. Oh

1878
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 3: my god, Becky looked at perfect. That's a big looking

1879
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 3: man right there.

1880
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Man, how would you look at that? You're looking at

1881
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: the the from behind Philip Rivers. There.

1882
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 3: That is a simulation of a fat ass right there.

1883
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 3: They put some weight on that boy, Oh jeez, look

1884
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: at the butt on that.

1885
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, he must work out.

1886
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned it as Tim Allen was to

1887
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: the Santa Claus.

1888
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 5: Does this look like a little weight to you?

1889
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: I've got forty five pounds a week.

1890
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: It's not like he's rolling out like a Homer Simpson hotbelly, though,

1891
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: is he?

1892
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 3: Look at that blubberfly?

1893
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 7: Yes, there's canceling my wife.

1894
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 4: I don't know when you were there in the room

1895
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 4: and lifted shirt off.

1896
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you were in the room. How much

1897
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 3: bigger than he lived last.

1898
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 4: He certainly put on some weight. Damn boyd, that's a

1899
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 4: thicker b.

1900
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 3: I just tined.

1901
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: I'd find it amusing to see what the avatar was

1902
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: for Madden.

1903
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 5: That's all y' is sick? You know that, you really sick.

1904
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: That you wan's that's a sick thing to do.

1905
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: Good good morning, and welcome into a stage stage that

1906
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: has been set by Mark Dyton very well. Philip Rivers

1907
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: returns last week almost pulls off the incredible Disney story,

1908
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: but the Seahawks come back and get a game winning

1909
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: field goal late and the Cults couldn't quite match up

1910
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: with that.

1911
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 3: But my point last week.

1912
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: Was the Madden folks, did Philip Rivers no favors on

1913
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: his avatar? They I thought they exaggerated a little bit

1914
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 1: of weight that he might have put on since the

1915
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: last time he played James. I thought it was unfair.

1916
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 4: You seem to have really, you know, taken a liking

1917
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 4: to this avatar.

1918
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: I just was surprised that they went over the top.

1919
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: There no avatar up next for our mark House some

1920
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: of your best works. Of course, you know he's happy

1921
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: with two because it was going on and on and on.

1922
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 6: You'd like to deserve another spin, especially since we're going

1923
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 6: to talk colts.

1924
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: We're going to talk colts right now with Stephen Holder,

1925
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: who covers the team for ESPN dot com and of

1926
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: course good friend of the show here this morning. I

1927
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that avatar, Stephen, and I

1928
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: know that Philip Rivers is naturally a little bigger than

1929
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: he was the last time he played. But I thought

1930
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: the Maddenn avatar was like, let's really exaggerate that.

1931
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 3: What do you have? You even seen that thing?

1932
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 12: I have not, But now I feel like I need

1933
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 12: to find Google dot com and you know I have

1934
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 12: that bookmark, you know, so yeah, I need to get

1935
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 12: on there. I'm going along with the senior citizen team.

1936
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 12: You know, he's forty four, I'm forty something, you know.

1937
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:42,520
Speaker 12: Never mind.

1938
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 4: What let me know, how how old are you, Steven?

1939
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 4: Should I get you a cane for Christmas? Let let

1940
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 4: me know.

1941
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 7: I'm closer. I'm closer to fifteen and forty, that's for sure.

1942
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 3: So here's the question.

1943
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Since you've got a lot of experience watching these things, Now,

1944
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: what have we learned in the seventy two hours since

1945
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: the re debut of Philip Rivers here?

1946
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 12: I mean, I thought, if we were just talking about

1947
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 12: that game, and I'll explain why, I think that game

1948
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,879
Speaker 12: is a maybe an outlier that game, I thought it

1949
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 12: it works according to plan almost perfectly.

1950
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Speaker 7: I agree with Shane stiken Like and Philip for that matter.

1951
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 12: I mean that's they planned the game plan specifically that way,

1952
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 12: to play it close to the vest, don't get crazy,

1953
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 12: don't give them opportunities, and win the field, position, battle time,

1954
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 12: and possession. They did all of that. They did everything

1955
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 12: they needed to do. They just couldn't finish it until

1956
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 12: they lost. But if you're going into that stadium against

1957
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 12: that team with your quarterback situation that they currently had.

1958
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 12: I mean, that was the way to go about it,

1959
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 12: and it almost worked. So now the one thing I

1960
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,480
Speaker 12: would say is, I think this is the caveat.

1961
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

1962
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 12: If they can duplicate that, because you got a perfect

1963
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 12: game from your defense, you had great special teams play

1964
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 12: obviously with the kicking game, and everything fell into place

1965
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 12: that doesn't normally happen, and I don't know.

1966
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 7: If they can duplicate that. That's the hard part here.

1967
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 4: So Steven, looking at the situation with Rivers, we know

1968
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 4: that he's going to start Monday night against the forty

1969
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 4: nine ers. However, we also got an update from Shane

1970
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: Stychen on Monday saying that Anthony Richardson has been clear

1971
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: for physical activities, not practice, not football activities, but he's

1972
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 4: getting closer to a potential return. So I'm asking you

1973
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 4: to look into the future a little bit, and let's

1974
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 4: just say, if Anthony Richardson has his practice window opened

1975
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: up next week and he's available to potentially play a game,

1976
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 4: how much of a conversation do you think that has

1977
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 4: to be between him and Philip Rivers, Because I do

1978
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 4: think that is a new wrinkle that could arise in

1979
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Speaker 4: the next two weeks or so.

1980
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think it is something to consider.

1981
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 12: I mean there's a chance, okay, just a chance that

1982
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 12: I think that window opens this week.

1983
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Speaker 7: Now. I don't know.

1984
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 12: Where that stands, but it's not off the table. And

1985
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 12: saying Stikeen did kind of I think allow for that, right,

1986
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 12: he didn't rule out this week. So I actually think

1987
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,919
Speaker 12: that's a conversation. I don't know where it stands, but anyhow,

1988
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,879
Speaker 12: it's gonna be interesting. And that's why I think Monday

1989
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 12: Night is so important because two things. Number One, if

1990
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 12: they lose, then where are you even.

1991
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 7: At, right? Okay? Or what are we talking about in

1992
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 7: terms of postseason?

1993
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 9: Now?

1994
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 12: They may still be mathematically alive, but you know it's

1995
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 12: going to be a long shot. Not that they'll give up,

1996
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 12: but I'm just saying we're just being real here, right.

1997
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 12: And then secondly, I would say on the other and

1998
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 12: the other factor will be if he doesn't if Philip

1999
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 12: Rivers doesn't play well in that game, well then it

2000
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 12: blunts shame seconds argument that maybe he's our best chance

2001
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 12: to win, because if you have another option, then the

2002
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 12: question becomes, well is he your best chance to win?

2003
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 12: And and all of this is very very hypothetical. Okay, right,

2004
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 12: Anthony Richardson literally broke his face, right, So I don't

2005
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 12: know is you know, his is his confidence, There is

2006
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 12: his vision, Okay, you know that was affected at least temporarily,

2007
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 12: and that I all these little things that I think

2008
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 12: have have kept them from committing to this. But last

2009
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 12: thing I'll say is if and when they can get

2010
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 12: Anthony Richardson out there, it's a.

2011
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 7: Win win for everybody.

2012
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 12: It really is, because they need to evaluate him, he

2013
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 12: needs to play and get his confidence up. Everybody would benefit.

2014
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 12: So we'll see if it happens, but I think it'd

2015
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 12: be a great thing if the if the situation allows

2016
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 12: for it.

2017
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Speaker 4: I think the one thing that has kind of tripped

2018
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 4: me up about this whole conversation, Stephen and really Joel

2019
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 4: a Ericson for me, star acts Shane this question because

2020
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 4: hypothetically speaking, if Anthony Richardson is available to play over

2021
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 4: the next two weeks or so, and your concern is, well,

2022
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 4: he hasn't played in two months, then the argument is, well,

2023
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 4: the other guy hasn't played in five years and you

2024
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,520
Speaker 4: played them, So that is I think an interesting conversation

2025
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 4: that Shane kind of dismissed Monday, but he won't be

2026
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 4: able to dismiss that if and when Anthony is available

2027
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 4: to practice and potentially.

2028
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 12: Play right, and it's if Philip Rivers plays okay at

2029
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 12: an acceptable level, then he can just say, well, you know,

2030
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 12: Phillip is his.

2031
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 4: Role in right and Hen, again, I would agree with

2032
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 4: him in that reag Yeah, I would agree with him there, right,

2033
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, but if he does not, and you know,

2034
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 4: look he's still forty four and still can't push the

2035
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 4: ball down the field, those things remain true, then it

2036
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 4: becomes a difficult argument for Shane.

2037
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 12: And the one thing I will say, and I love

2038
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 12: shame Psyching. I think he's a good coach. I think

2039
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 12: that they have. I think he's he helped them become

2040
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 12: what they became this year before these injuries hit. I mean,

2041
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 12: they're not there without with a different coach, I feel like.

2042
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 12: But I would say this, he's got to take his

2043
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 12: emotions and his friendship out of this if it doesn't

2044
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 12: go well, and that's gonna be very interesting.

2045
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: Stephen hold it from ESPN with the year payless stickers hotline, Steven,

2046
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: you think it's fair to say this has shifted more

2047
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: from it only began because Riley Leonard banged up his

2048
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: knee to oh no, like we need Philip Rivers's juice.

2049
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 12: I have become increasingly more convinced that this has actually

2050
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 12: not that much to do with Riley Leonard. Well in

2051
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 12: this regard, meaning it wasn't about the knee. In my opinion,

2052
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 12: I would agree, And this is like an educated opinion obviously.

2053
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm not just talking that on my rear end.

2054
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 12: And you know that you know the same things that

2055
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 12: I know, right, I mean, they felt that when Daniel

2056
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 12: Jones went down they were still in the playoff hunt.

2057
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 12: So the question wasn't, oh, ken Riley Leonard play quarterback

2058
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 12: for us?

2059
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 7: Because technically, yes, he could.

2060
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 12: He could step in, he could function, he could run

2061
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 12: the offense, he might even make some plays. Right, those

2062
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 12: things are all true. The question, though, was a different question.

2063
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 12: The question was could he get us to the playoffs?

2064
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 12: And for them, that answer was probably no period knee

2065
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 12: injury or no injury.

2066
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 7: That is where they were now.

2067
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 12: I know fans got a glimpse against Jacksonville and they

2068
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 12: felt better about Riley Leonard. All I will tell you

2069
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 12: is that the guy we saw in training camp was

2070
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 12: not capable of doing what would have been asked now

2071
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 12: it did that sort of I don't know half of football.

2072
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 7: Change all of that and change everything they've seen in practice.

2073
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 9: I don't know.

2074
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,839
Speaker 7: I don't know. That's up to the coaches. But clearly

2075
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 7: the answer for now is no.

2076
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Steven Holder ESPN dot Com on the paylist slickers hotline

2077
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: right now, Steven, you talked about an almost perfect game

2078
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: from the defense and the special teams until it wasn't.

2079
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: In the last two minutes you had that kickoff that

2080
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: was you know, that ended up leading to the game

2081
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: winning field goal for Seattle, and then the defense just

2082
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: couldn't hold at the very end. There, Does that signal

2083
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: to you that everything for the Colts to win games

2084
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: moving forward though, all three phases that the coaches like

2085
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: say have to be almost perfect to pull this off.

2086
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:35,959
Speaker 7: Yes, I agree.

2087
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 12: I think so, because well, first of all, when when

2088
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 12: you're hurt and they are dealing with a rash of injuries. Look,

2089
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 12: I mean everybody gets hurt, and I know I don't

2090
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 12: like to use this, I'd like to bring this up

2091
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 12: as a as a reporter because it sounds like you're

2092
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 12: you're making excuses for them, But I actually feel like

2093
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 12: our job as reporters is to give context to the situation.

2094
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 7: Right.

2095
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 12: True, everybody has injuries, but all of their best players

2096
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 12: are hurt. I mean, except for Jonathan Taylor, all of

2097
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 12: their best players are hurt, particularly on defense. So when

2098
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 12: that's the reality, then you have to play at such

2099
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 12: a high level everywhere else to compensate for that, because

2100
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 12: your team is built to win with your best talent.

2101
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 12: Well the best talent's not out there, so you've got

2102
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 12: to figure out other ways to do it. And there

2103
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 12: is absolutely no margin for error, and that's what they have.

2104
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 12: That's what they've had to deal with these last few games.

2105
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 12: It's just been really, really difficult, and that's that's the NFL.

2106
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 12: You know, you're seeing it with a lot of other

2107
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 12: teams right now. I mean the Baltimore Ravens and what

2108
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 12: they've been through this year. You know, they're just hanging

2109
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,440
Speaker 12: on for their life. And the reason is largely injuries,

2110
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 12: you know. So that is a fact of life in

2111
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 12: the NFL. And the Colts are getting hit the wrong time,

2112
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 12: so they have to come through in every other facet

2113
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 12: right now.

2114
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no better example of injuries and overcoming them

2115
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: than the Colt's opponent. Frankly coming up Monday night in

2116
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers Steven last one from me,

2117
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: going back to Anthony Richardson, if I said fifty chance

2118
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: he takes another snap with the Colts, would you say

2119
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: over under?

2120
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 12: Hmm?

2121
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 7: I think.

2122
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 12: I think over But it's like fifty two percent, and

2123
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 12: here's why, or fifty one probably here's why because I

2124
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 12: think the Daniel Jones injury increases the likelihood. I know,

2125
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 12: I know, I know they're really optimistic. Blah blah blah.

2126
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 12: Everybody's optimistic. Okay, the guy ruptured is achilles tendon. That's

2127
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 12: a difficult injury. I hope the best for him, Daniel

2128
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 12: Jones is it's going to work. We know this, right,

2129
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 12: He's gonna rehab like a maniac. I have no doubt

2130
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 12: about any of that. But mother nature is mother nature, right,

2131
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 12: so we will see. It will be close. For him

2132
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 12: to be ready for opening day is a lot to ask,

2133
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 12: That's all I'm saying. So I just think that increases

2134
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 12: the likelihood at least a little bit. But I but

2135
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 12: I do think that in the long term, Anthony Richardson

2136
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 12: and the colts know that they're not committed to him.

2137
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 12: I don't think there's any doubt about that. So he's

2138
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 12: probably gonna want out. I mean, of course he is.

2139
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 12: No one told me that I have eyes, I have ears. Right,

2140
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 12: he's gonna want out. So will they grant that and

2141
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 12: will they give him the opportunity to start over somewhere else?

2142
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 12: I don't know, that's that's the question. But this makes

2143
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 12: it a little less likely, is what i'd say. Because

2144
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 12: of that injury.

2145
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 3: Steven, thanks as always for stopping by. Appreciate your time,

2146
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,959
Speaker 3: and stay stay warm and don't worry.

2147
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: About the avatars. Man, you'll be okay. You're not old yet.

2148
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: I can promise you that you're not.

2149
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: About to hear hurricanes. As much as it pains me

2150
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: to say it.

2151
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 7: That is meaningful, Kevin, that that I felt that.

2152
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Thank you, James Voyd. You can back him out. That's

2153
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: the high road. Stephen did not take the high road.

2154
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:55,879
Speaker 2: As soon as that playoff bracketing.

2155
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 4: I don't think you're really he's taking a high road.

2156
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:58,839
Speaker 4: I think you're just thrown out some bad juju.

2157
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 2: That was one of the more below the belt comments.

2158
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: Steven Holder goes to the group text and the minute

2159
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: the bracket comes.

2160
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 4: Out, you're still grieving.

2161
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 2: And he for those listening, you missed my go to

2162
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 2: the week on Monday, but I won't rehash it. But

2163
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,480
Speaker 2: more pathetic on my character as a human being than anything.

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01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 4: Older sent a Miami Was it Miami duck? I don't

2165
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 4: know what that is?

2166
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 2: He sent like a boy, Kevin, I'm really heartbroken for you.

2167
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Something along those.

2168
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 4: Knows Miami mascot going nuts?

2169
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 3: Is that an albatross that they have is their their mask?

2170
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2171
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, it's not a duck, but it's a bird.

2172
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sent it's got the Google Sebastian, is that?

2173
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: Is that what his name is? The Miami Hurricane? And

2174
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 2: he goes KB, I'm really sorry, you know, seriously, And

2175
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 2: I just responded with clearly you haven't gotten it over

2176
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 2: it yet, clearly not. So that works fifty chance. Anthony

2177
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: richardson another snap in the colt's uniform less than less

2178
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 2: than James.

2179
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 4: I'll take the over on that.

2180
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 3: You think he does come back?

2181
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 2: Now you go in the fifty two over or you

2182
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 2: going a little bit.

2183
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he plays for this team. If

2184
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,600
Speaker 4: you're asking me who should be the starter or be

2185
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 4: a top the leader board right now, it's QB one

2186
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six is Anthony Richardson. And I get

2187
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 4: that in theory, Daniel Jones could be healthy by week

2188
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 4: one of next year. But I mean, we've seen people

2189
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 4: recover from Achilles' injuries and they don't look the same

2190
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 4: the year after. So is that another opportunity for Anthony

2191
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 4: to come back out here and possibly won the starting job.

2192
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 4: But also on top of that, I just think that

2193
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 4: it forces the team to keep them. I mean, in theory,

2194
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 4: if Daniel Jones was healthy and you get into the playoffs,

2195
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 4: you're probably thinking, Okay, we gave where two first round picks,

2196
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 4: let's trade Anthony. We're not gonna got the first round

2197
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 4: pick for him, book get some draft capital back. That

2198
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 4: ain't happening. You gotta keep him on your roster just

2199
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 4: if you have an option, another option beyond a guy

2200
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 4: coming off of an achilles tear.

2201
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: Right, Obviously it's a two way street because he is

2202
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 2: under contract for next year. But is there any and

2203
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Stephen definitely hit on this, Is there any of the

2204
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Anthony Rigson camp that says.

2205
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 4: Get me out of here. Can we just be done? Yeah?

2206
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 2: Like it's not gonna work out. And again it's a

2207
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 2: two way street. The Colts have him under contract for

2208
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, and the Colts quarterback situation.

2209
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 4: That will be his last year in the contract, though

2210
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 4: they won't pick up his fifth year option, is.

2211
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 2: What it is. So yeah, part of me says, you

2212
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 2: know that number of fifty percent, I don't think it

2213
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 2: would have been that high pre Daniel Jones going down.

2214
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 2: To be clear, I think that number has risen a

2215
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 2: little bit, but I almost feel like it's got to

2216
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 2: be done in the next three weeks. I'm still not

2217
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,879
Speaker 2: thinking it's an absolute slam. Dunk Richardson is one thousand

2218
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 2: percent on this roster come September twenty twenty six.

2219
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Scotty Ja texting us the U of Miami mascot is Sebastian.

2220
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 3: The ibis not the albatross. The ibis case you're wondering.

2221
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 3: Now you know Joe Stephen ibis.

2222
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Stephen texta to clarify that as well. Safe to say,

2223
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna share it on air. Is it the best

2224
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 2: game of opening weekend? A and M Miami or is

2225
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 2: it Oklahoma Bank?

2226
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 3: I think it's Oklahoma Obama.

2227
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 4: I think so too, mainly because that's the one I'm

2228
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 4: waunched in just because the winner plays out.

2229
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 2: I think Miami or A and M could win multiple games,

2230
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: though A and M is the least scary. That's what's

2231
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: interesting to me. I don't think Oklahoma or Alabama can

2232
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: beat Indiana. So I look at Miami and A and M.

2233
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 2: Remember last year, all four of our winners right on

2234
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 2: opening weekend ended up winning the next round two. The

2235
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 2: bide didn't benefit anybody last year, so I think that's

2236
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 2: an outlier. I don't think there's something there, but it

2237
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: was kind of wild, all four of them. Trying to

2238
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 2: think of the four war was it Notre Dame, Notre Dame,

2239
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 2: Penn State in Texas in Ohio state? Yeah, all four

2240
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 2: I'd played on opening weekend?

2241
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was.

2242
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: I was kind of giving grief to him a little

2243
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: while ago. But honestly, Texas, A and M is this

2244
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 1: to me is a scary team.

2245
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they were what top five team for

2246
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 2: the vast majority of the year, and then Texas beats

2247
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 2: them and they and they fall out. So yeah, I

2248
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,440
Speaker 2: think that'll be a really good game again. Alabama Oklahoma Friday,

2249
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,560
Speaker 2: and then the other three games coming up on Saturday.

2250
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Lots to do and of course the doubleheader of basketball

2251
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: in town on Saturday. Mark, let's tell everybody all about

2252
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: it now, check.

2253
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 8: It down the Morning Checkdown on ninety three five and

2254
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 8: one oh seven five the Fame.

2255
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Speaker 3: I just got done talking about the Colts. Let's focus

2256
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 3: in on college sports right now.

2257
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 1: In basketball, Butler falls at Yukon seventy nine sixty last night.

2258
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 3: They played that game in Hartford. Solo ball is his name.

2259
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: Man was the impressive James twenty six points and he

2260
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: was in that big run in the first.

2261
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 3: Half to end the first half. He was just knocking

2262
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 3: down shots everywhere.

2263
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a big time player. The Nainette for

2264
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 4: itself and shout out to Brayln Mullins and he and

2265
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 4: his own put it on the local school.

2266
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: You see.

2267
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: Donnie Marshall, the former Yukon player, compared his game in

2268
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 1: college to ray Allen, of all people, another former Yukon guy.

2269
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: That's big high praise man. The guy who was there

2270
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 1: and saw it. Drayton Jones led Butler with thirteen points.

2271
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: They got out to a nine to two league, but

2272
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: then just kind of watch Yukon blow by from there.

2273
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: They will play again Saturday in the Indie Classic. That'll

2274
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: be at the field House. Butler against Northwestern KB and

2275
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: then Purdue against Auburn. Both those games will be on

2276
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 1: Peacock or you can go watch them yourself at the Fieldhouse.

2277
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: But pretty good Indie Classic coming up this week.

2278
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to those two games.

2279
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some local flavor from Northwestern kJ Windham from

2280
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Min Davis and we talked about Trey Singleton a little

2281
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 2: bit earlier in Jeffersonville, and so they're getting some minutes

2282
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 2: for Chris Collins's bunch and again all burned Stephen Pearl

2283
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 2: now at the Helm there. It's another rank matchup for Purdue,

2284
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 2: so they'll try to finish off their non conference ranked

2285
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: on rank. So Peacock it up on Saturday. If you're

2286
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: not there, it's four o'clock and six thirty those tip times.

2287
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: Butler first, pretty second.

2288
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 3: There you go.

2289
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: Some college football news released yesterday, The AP all American teams.

2290
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 1: Six different Hoosiers dotting the first three teams, the only

2291
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,759
Speaker 1: first teamer Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza on the second team.

2292
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: Offensive tackle Carter Smith, cornerback, DeAngelo Pons, safety, Lewis Moore

2293
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: and on the third team All American Tyrek Tucker the

2294
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, and Aidan Fisher, everybody's favorite linebacker made it.

2295
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 3: Can you imagine we.

2296
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Talk about them being the top ranked team in the

2297
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: country and going to the College Football Playoff, but six

2298
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 1: Indiana players on those three All American teams that end

2299
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: and up itself is amazing case.

2300
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 2: It is, oh indeed, and very deserving. And you know

2301
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 2: how many of those are on the defensive side of

2302
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: the ball. To your point, I mean again, that is

2303
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 2: the unit we talked about retaining Brian Haynes yesterday on

2304
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,520
Speaker 2: the show. Such a critical element, I think to Kurtzignetti

2305
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 2: continuing this, that unit, it just been outstanding and no

2306
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 2: better than they were in that Big Ten title game.

2307
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 1: All right, And the NBA, the NBA Cup decided last

2308
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: night the New York Knicks beat the San Antonio Spurs

2309
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,759
Speaker 1: one twenty four to one thirteen. But an Indiana flavor

2310
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: there too, James Boyd because the leading scorer was og

2311
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,839
Speaker 1: Nanobi with twenty eight points and nine boards.

2312
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 4: Very good player and has certainly earned the big bags

2313
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 4: that he's got in the league. So there you have it.

2314
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 5: Nicks.

2315
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 4: You finally got some hardware, as Jeff would say.

2316
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson twenty five points also for the Knicks last night,

2317
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: and the Knicks will be in town tomorrow night at

2318
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,799
Speaker 1: the field House to take on the Indiana Pacers. Pacers

2319
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: have been struggling over the last week. Kevin, you talked

2320
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: to the coach, Rick Carlisle about that a few days ago.

2321
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: But maybe this is the best time to catch the Knicks,

2322
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 1: coming off the hangover from the NBA Cup.

2323
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do mean that in old seriousness. I'm curious

2324
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 2: that the Pacers try, maybe run a little bit more,

2325
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 2: do something there to test New York out coming off

2326
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: of this. But yeah, the schedule, you know, it gets

2327
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 2: a lot tougher here for the Pacers as they close

2328
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 2: out the year. Doesn't sound like the returns of Aaron E.

2329
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 2: Smith or Ben Sheppard or eminent by any means here.

2330
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 2: So seven o'clock inside of Gamebridge field House. Do we

2331
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 2: care about Miles Turner second return or no?

2332
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 4: I still do. Pettyness never dies.

2333
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: That will be Tuesday, So coming up for the Pacers, Pacers, Nicks.

2334
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 2: They'll go on the road New Orleans Saturday, Boston Monday,

2335
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: it'll be a back to back Monday Tuesday, so December

2336
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 2: twenty third, Miles Turner's second game back. Are they gonna

2337
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 2: throw up that graphic again? Isaiah Jackson's double doubles?

2338
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 4: They might just put up here to my books record

2339
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 4: because not only they're having a great season either, that

2340
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 4: also will be their big get and a chance to

2341
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 4: try to get back in championship contention. And they stink.

2342
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: Also saw a couple of articles yesterday on potential people

2343
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: are so wondering on the Pacers really looking for a

2344
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 1: piece in the middle, somebody they can trade for, and

2345
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: all of the potential trades that everybody's thrown out, they're

2346
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: all seem to include Benedict Matherin or Obi Topping in

2347
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: some cases both. Are we gonna were just resigning ourselves

2348
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: to the fact that if they do make a trade,

2349
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: one of those two guys is gonna be gone, if not.

2350
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Both, Yeah, I mean from a young talent and contractual standpoint,

2351
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 2: they obviously would be attractive I think to other teams

2352
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 2: in a trade, but I still have some skepticism exactly

2353
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 2: if they would make that move, But certainly a lot

2354
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna be watched here over the next what two months,

2355
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 2: little less than two months till the trade deadline, and

2356
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 2: I think trades can now officially start to happen. I

2357
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 2: believe we just entered that window here for the NBA season.

2358
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Well, now that the Cup is over, we have other

2359
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 1: ways to keep people engaged past just the games.

2360
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 3: Right there you go, how they do that NFL.

2361
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: The Colts have the day off today as they are

2362
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: on a Monday night football schedule. They'll get back at

2363
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. And as we've been pointing out, and especially

2364
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: James Boyd putting an emphasis on it because Shane Steichen did,

2365
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is the quarterback at starting the game on

2366
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: Monday Night.

2367
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so no discrepancies there. I know a lot of

2368
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 4: the chat has been about Anthony Richardson could he play

2369
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 4: again this year? If he does play again this year,

2370
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 4: will not be Monday Night against the forty nine ers.

2371
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,440
Speaker 4: It is Philip Rivers as QB one.

2372
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 1: Kevin other injury concerns that the Colts have that you'll

2373
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: be looking to see who's on the practice field tomorrow.

2374
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2375
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 2: So they did sign three offensive linemen to their practice squad,

2376
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:59,520
Speaker 2: including an offensive tackle and Zachary Thomas not the linebacker,

2377
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 2: but offensive tackle who has played before in the NFL.

2378
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 2: That I think you bring up because of Bernard Ryman

2379
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 2: situation with that elbow injury. So exactly what is his status,

2380
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Shane said, A little monitored as the week moves along,

2381
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 2: but you know it looks to be up in the

2382
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 2: air there. Then defensively, the two big ones to force

2383
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Buckner Sauce Gardner. I if I if you pin me

2384
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,719
Speaker 2: down right now and say, okay, you know who plays Monday,

2385
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 2: I think Buckner gives it a go.

2386
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 3: Gardner.

2387
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm a little iffy on. Remember it's been two weeks

2388
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 2: for him since he last played. So we'll see if

2389
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: it'll be this game or if it'll be that Jacksonville game.

2390
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,640
Speaker 2: You know, all of them matter right now. But if

2391
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 2: you want to get technical, there are several playoffs in

2392
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 2: EIOs where the Colts get in in just winning the

2393
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 2: last two games. Those are the two divisional games Jacksonville

2394
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 2: and Houston. So you know, Sauce Gardner, short week, you know,

2395
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 2: going for the Monday night game to the Sunday game.

2396
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: You know, all those are some thoughts I've had.

2397
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 3: All right, we'll keep an eye on that.

2398
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: Also, some college football News Jeremiah Love says, I'm off

2399
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: to the NFL. He had a terrific season for Notre

2400
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Dame past year, and he's projected to be even as

2401
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: a running back.

2402
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 3: Middle if not upper first round draft pick.

2403
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2404
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 2: I think he checked so many boxes, not only his

2405
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 2: electricity as a player, but his ability to block, his

2406
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 2: ability to pass catch. He's been pretty durable at Notre

2407
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: Dame as well. So I get running backs taken high

2408
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: bring out a little bit of hesitancy, but I do

2409
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 2: think he's a special, special talent.

2410
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Jeff George, former Cults player known these days as the

2411
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: Christmas Quarterback, will tell you why and speak to him

2412
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: next at ninety three to five and one oh seven

2413
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: five the fans. This next story, guys, I've heard about

2414
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: it a little bit over the years, hadn't paid a

2415
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: ton of attention to it, but then no one. We're

2416
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: going to talk to Jeff George this morning. I started

2417
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 1: to do some more research on It's just a very

2418
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,600
Speaker 1: cool story and it's it's a lot of fun and

2419
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,759
Speaker 1: it's a great way to catch up as well. Jeff George,

2420
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: former quarterback that we all know the story for the

2421
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and around the National Football League from Indiana

2422
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: has been up to some great things lately, and we

2423
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 1: thought we'd talk about that with him, and we invite

2424
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: him now to the show on the Paylesstlickers Hotline.

2425
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 3: Good morning, Jeff. How you doing on this Wednesday?

2426
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 9: Good morning, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me again.

2427
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,919
Speaker 1: Thanks for being on here. They're calling you the Christmas

2428
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 1: quarterback these days. Could you have imagined that twenty years

2429
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: ago being known as the Christmas quarterback in your home state?

2430
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 9: I know, well, I think that might be that that's

2431
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 9: a good thing to be known for. I guess been

2432
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 9: doing it for quite a while. Just you know, I

2433
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 9: got into the league and came back to Andy and

2434
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 9: obviously played for the Colts. Just trying to do some

2435
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 9: nice things around the city. And just like everybody does.

2436
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 9: I'm not the only one that does it, but there's

2437
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 9: a lot of people help out in the community and

2438
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 9: it's just that time of year and I just want

2439
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 9: to help out as many families, as many kids as

2440
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 9: we can. So we started, you know, like I said,

2441
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 9: a long time ago, but we had an event three

2442
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 9: weeks ago out on a Walmart and we're able to

2443
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 9: sponsor about fifty families and each family was able to

2444
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,799
Speaker 9: have a nice Christmas. Each one got about five hundred

2445
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 9: dollars a shop at a local Walmart and you know,

2446
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 9: just not just made their day, it made my day

2447
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 9: as well. So we're just trying trying to hang you

2448
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 9: that tradition and you know, take it to the next

2449
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 9: level and over the course of the next year try

2450
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 9: and do a sponsor two thousand families that you know

2451
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 9: to allow them to have a great Christmas as well.

2452
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 9: So you know, it's getting close. And if anybody out

2453
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 9: there can just help out and you know, do their

2454
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 9: part and just want to donate to a great cause,

2455
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 9: you know, you can go to the CHRISTMASQB dot com

2456
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 9: and just help out as much you can so and

2457
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 9: it's it's very much appreciated.

2458
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 4: Again, we have Jeff George on the line, and Jeff,

2459
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 4: I'm actually in Illinois alum James Boyd here and so

2460
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 4: my first knowledge of you was being the number one

2461
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 4: pick from Mama Mater and so it's kind of you know,

2462
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 4: full circle to have you here on the phone lines

2463
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 4: and being Indiana myself working these days. And for those

2464
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 4: listening again, you can go to Christmas QB dot com

2465
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 4: if you want to donate to his great Holiday season endeavors.

2466
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 4: And so, Jeff, let's start with, you know, the wildest

2467
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 4: story of the NFL this past week, Philip Rivers coming

2468
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 4: out of retirement to play quarterbacks. So I'm looking at

2469
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 4: you and your resume. Could you get back out there?

2470
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:57,799
Speaker 3: Trade?

2471
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 9: You know, I I think I probably could have handled

2472
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 9: the game plan last week, and and yeah, I'll just

2473
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 9: this one. Don't hit me. You know, I would, I

2474
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 9: would have got pretty quick. But but yeah, it was

2475
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 9: you know, it's a really good, feel good story. I've

2476
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 9: been there. I've been there, you know, trying to come

2477
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 9: back at that age, and you know, just to go

2478
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 9: out there and see them on the field and you know,

2479
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 9: future Hall of Famer and and all that. That was awesome.

2480
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 9: But but I'm a fan of like, you know, guys

2481
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 9: like Riley Leonard, and I'm I'm a big fan of

2482
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 9: h of Anthony Richardson, and I was really hoping and

2483
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 9: that that ar would be able to get out there

2484
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 9: and and show what he can do, you know, going

2485
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 9: through a lot with all the injuries he had last

2486
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 9: year and then you know now this year, and I

2487
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 9: just want to see what he can do. You know,

2488
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 9: big guy, big physical guy, big arm. You know, I

2489
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 9: know everybody has weaknesses, but been here a while now,

2490
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 9: and I'm excited to get him back outfield. It's great

2491
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 9: to see Philip, you know, especially like I said, I've

2492
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 9: been in that and and his shoes before and went

2493
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,600
Speaker 9: out and uh didn't screw anything up, you know, the

2494
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 9: last and I think that's pretty much what they uh,

2495
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 9: you know, wanted what his job was last week and

2496
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 9: I almost came away with it. And you know, another

2497
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 9: week of practice, I know he's going to be more

2498
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 9: uh prepared and physically feel a little bit better, and

2499
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 9: I know he's got some confidence. But but man, you know,

2500
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 9: you have a you know, a guy like Anthony and Richardson.

2501
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 9: I just especially when you need probably two wins out

2502
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 9: of these next three games with a couple of tough

2503
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 9: defenses coming on, and with what he brings and you know,

2504
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 9: able to run the ball like he did last year,

2505
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 9: it would just be excited to see what he can do.

2506
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 9: And and if he's not going to be a future cult,

2507
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 9: you know, just give him my opportunity to go out

2508
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 9: there and you know, for other teams to show what

2509
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 9: he can do. And you know, get a chance to

2510
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,560
Speaker 9: play the next ten years. But but I'm also you know,

2511
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 9: a Riley Letter fan, you know, a rookie. I know

2512
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 9: what that what that's like playing as a rookie. I've

2513
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 9: been there as well, and you know, started way back

2514
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 9: in nineteen ninety and you know, I know the struggles

2515
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 9: that you have as a rookie as well. But watching

2516
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 9: him play the couple of weeks ago, uh, you know, Uh,

2517
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 9: I know he's young, but you know he's those fresh legs,

2518
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 9: and you know he's been there in the in the

2519
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 9: many camps and the off season training camp and uh

2520
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 9: you know why uh he wouldn't get an opportunity as well.

2521
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 9: But I understand each situation. But for me, you know,

2522
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 9: a Colt fan, just want to see, uh see Anthony

2523
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 9: rich And gets to get out there and just see

2524
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 9: what he can do.

2525
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,879
Speaker 2: You know that voice quite well. It is Jeff George

2526
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 2: with us here and as we've talked about the Christmas QB,

2527
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,759
Speaker 2: just awesome, awesome work he's doing here locally, movement designed

2528
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 2: to bring hope to families who are struggling during Christmas.

2529
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 2: Mark if you can, let's tweet that out CHRISTMASQB dot

2530
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: com where people can go and help out here in

2531
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 2: the season of giving Jeff. Going back to what you

2532
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: saw Sunday from the Colts, Shane Sacking was pretty adamant

2533
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 2: that the offensive game plan will change and can be

2534
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 2: different based off what you saw out of Philip Rivers.

2535
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 2: Do you think there's more down the field with him

2536
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 2: at quarterback?

2537
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 9: Wellther it has to be. It has to be. Are

2538
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 9: they you know the outcome will be uh, you know

2539
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 9: five six field goals? You know, uh, in the game,

2540
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 9: you know you have to push the ball downfield. Obviously

2541
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 9: you utilize uh Jonathan Taylor. Uh, you know the best

2542
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 9: backs in the league. Defense is playing great, especially since

2543
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 9: they're missing all the key players on defense, but they

2544
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 9: stepped up in Seattle. You know, I played in Seattle.

2545
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 9: I know how hard it is to play in Seattle

2546
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 9: with the crowd and as hot as Seattle was, and

2547
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 9: you come away with uh, you know, you should have won.

2548
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 9: You know you have to uh. You know, I'm not

2549
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 9: putting blame on anybody, but when you hold uh an

2550
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 9: offense like like that under uh, you know what, they

2551
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 9: have six six field goals, you hold them to no touchdowns,

2552
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 9: you have to come away with a win. So you

2553
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 9: know it, Uh, it was, it was. It was a

2554
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 9: great game. But you know, they they definitely have to

2555
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 9: push the ball downfield. They have to get to the

2556
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 9: weapons pierces. Uh, everybody knows you heck, you just throw

2557
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 9: it up to Pierce down the field, He's going to

2558
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 9: go up and get it. And you know, Michael Pittman

2559
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 9: is just uh, your steady receiver and you got you know,

2560
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 9: quick us downs.

2561
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 5: Man.

2562
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 9: You have to utilize that. You have to attack the middle,

2563
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 9: you know, like you know they're uh when you play

2564
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 9: the Colts, you know they're gonna think, now you have

2565
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 9: to stop Jonathan Taylor and uh, you know, right rightfully. So,

2566
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 9: but man, if you can just uh you know, tack

2567
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 9: that middle and uh, you know, go to your big

2568
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 9: guys and just trust them that they're going to make plays,

2569
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 9: that's the only way they're gonna win the game. So

2570
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 9: game plan has to be different. I know Shane probably

2571
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 9: knows that, not telling him anything, he doesn't know, but yeah,

2572
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 9: it has to change a little bit.

2573
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: Jeff James had mentioned, of course, reminding everybody you'd played

2574
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: at Illinois and and you know the Big ten quite well.

2575
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Have you been keeping up with the Indiana Hoosiers this year, Man,

2576
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: I have who has it?

2577
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 9: You know, I'm a uh, I'm a who hoo Hoosiers fan,

2578
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 9: and but you know, I've always followed the Hoosiers that heck,

2579
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 9: I go way back when Sam White or Lee Corso

2580
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 9: actually was here. But when when I was at sophomore.

2581
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 9: I remember at Warren Central, Uh, Sam Whites was the

2582
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 9: head coach for one year and coming from the NFL,

2583
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 9: coming from the San Francisco before, you knows, and you know,

2584
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 9: being around uh, you know, Joe Montanas of the world.

2585
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 9: You know, I thought that at that time Indiana was uh,

2586
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 9: you know, it was a great school. And then he

2587
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 9: you know, it was a one year and then he left.

2588
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 9: But but it obviously worked out for me going to

2589
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 9: Illinois as a great time and uh we had some

2590
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 9: pretty good years. But yeah, I do follow him. You

2591
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 9: know what a great kid Fernando uh Mendoza is and

2592
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 9: comes from a great family, which I love. I love

2593
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 9: to see because I felt like, you know, I come

2594
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 9: from a great family as well, and you just love

2595
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 9: to see kids like that. I love listening to to

2596
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 9: him talk. I love his interviews. It's uh, you know,

2597
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 9: it's just genuine and authentic and and just nowadays you

2598
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 9: just don't see that in a lot of these kids.

2599
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 9: And to see him and the way he talks and

2600
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 9: the way he's you know, a proud who's your coming from?

2601
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 9: You know what? He's only been here one year and

2602
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 9: how the city's uh taking him on and how he's

2603
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 9: taken all the city and uh to be a heisman

2604
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 9: after one year's pretty incredible. So my, uh my hats

2605
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 9: off to him and uh and sicking that what a

2606
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 9: personality he is. You love seeing him getting interview because

2607
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 9: he never see the man smile And ten minutes, ten

2608
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 9: seconds ago in the game and you're by five touchdowns

2609
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 9: and you're still chewing out the players and uh, you

2610
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 9: know that just you know, demands respect. So uh, you know,

2611
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 9: those are kind of guys you just kind of like

2612
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 9: play for. So hopefully they can they can keep it

2613
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 9: going and keep winning, and because that's a great story

2614
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 9: for you know, not just them, but for everybody in

2615
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 9: Indiana that has followed and has struggled being an Indiana

2616
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 9: fan all those years. Anybody's been a fan, you know,

2617
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 9: it's it's always you know, I feel like they're always

2618
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 9: like five hundred team and just to get over that

2619
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 9: hunt playing behind uh, you know, Notre Dame and Purdue,

2620
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 9: and but now they're the team and to be number one, Wow,

2621
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 9: that's pretty incredible. So yeah, I have followed them. I'm

2622
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 9: excited to watch them and see where they go from here.

2623
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 4: And again we're talking to Jeff George D. Christmas QB,

2624
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety number one pick and also the future

2625
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 4: Colt's quarterback because he's coming out of retirement here in

2626
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 4: about a week. He's just waiting to announce it here

2627
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 4: on our airwaves. But in all seriousness, the last thing

2628
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 4: I leave you with is what we started with, and

2629
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 4: that is your Christmas endeavors. And from one I understand

2630
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 4: you all partner with the Department of Child Services and

2631
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 4: try to help families that are going some tough times

2632
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:21,839
Speaker 4: this time of year. So A, why did you start

2633
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 4: this whole thing? And then B, what have you perhaps

2634
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 4: gained from this and what perspective you gained from just

2635
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 4: this whole process.

2636
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 9: Well, I'm not looking to gain anything, you know. It's

2637
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 9: my h I think when you I've said this before,

2638
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 9: like when you play. When I played especially, I was

2639
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 9: always about football and always about my faith my family

2640
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 9: and football and never wanted any type of recognition. You know,

2641
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 9: it's you know, that's not what the Good Lord wants

2642
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 9: for anybody. You just do it because you do it

2643
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 9: in goodness, out of your heart. And like I said,

2644
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 9: I'm not the only one that helps out in the command.

2645
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 9: There's so many other people and and I just want

2646
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 9: to do my part. And I think that's you know,

2647
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 9: if I'm been a platform like I have all these years.

2648
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 9: You know I did it privately, yes, and did all that,

2649
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 9: but uh, now I need I need the help I need. Uh.

2650
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to recognize people recognize me for what

2651
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 9: I do. I'm trying to help that family get recognized.

2652
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 9: And uh, you know that need it more than than anybody.

2653
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 9: You know, it's not just not just during Christmas that

2654
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 9: they need to help. It's it's throughout the whole year,

2655
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 9: whether they need uh uh you know electric bill paid

2656
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 9: or a gas bill paid or rent paid. We just

2657
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 9: want to raise as much money to help these families.

2658
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 9: And DCS has been great partner with them and all

2659
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 9: that they do. Man, they they're they're the ones that

2660
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 9: are kind of the heroes that behind that. I'm just

2661
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 9: trying to help help them along and uh, but the

2662
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 9: main thing is to recognize these kids that that might

2663
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 9: not have a Christmas if we can come in and

2664
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 9: just help that family give them a great Christmas, put

2665
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 9: a smile on those kids' faces, and the mom and

2666
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 9: dad put a smile on their faces, and then just

2667
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 9: saying hey, you know, thank you. I you know, we

2668
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 9: we don't have to worry about uh, you know, heat

2669
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 9: in our house this year. We don't have to you know,

2670
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 9: it's you, and we can pay the rent. We know

2671
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 9: where we're going to be this month. So it's just

2672
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 9: the things like that that I think that uh, it's

2673
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 9: a small part that I'm doing and absolutely want no recognition.

2674
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 9: I know, I'm you know, doing interviews like this, but

2675
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 9: it's people like you guys that can help us get

2676
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 9: the word out and to help those families and recognize

2677
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 9: those families that need it more than anything, especially this

2678
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 9: time of year.

2679
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 1: And Jeff, for people who want to find out more

2680
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 1: information on this, how they can help out, what's the

2681
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 1: best place to go.

2682
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 9: Well, the best place is just what you've been saying,

2683
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 9: CHRISTMASQB dot com and you can just donate right there

2684
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 9: and it uh one hundred percent absolutely goes to all

2685
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 9: those families, and uh, you know, we have a week

2686
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 9: and a half left up to Christmas, so we're trying

2687
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 9: to get as much and and help as many fans

2688
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 9: as we can. And then, like I said, it's going

2689
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 9: to continue on after that. But uh uh the next step,

2690
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 9: the next goal is to help as many many families,

2691
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 9: many kids as we can the next uh you know,

2692
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 9: eight nine days.

2693
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 3: Great stuff. We'll keep track of it and we'll talk

2694
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 3: to you again soon. You can come buy any time

2695
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 3: you'd like to.

2696
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 7: All right, that'd be great.

2697
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 9: I'm heading now. I'm mnsa go out throwing the snow.

2698
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go welcome dare We're going.

2699
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 4: There, we go, Jeff represent for you know, il baby, you.

2700
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 9: Know I'm you know, I know we're indoors this week,

2701
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 9: but man, come out, come out and watch me at

2702
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 9: this high school. I can still spling.

2703
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 2: I like it.

2704
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 3: Talk to you somebuddy, Okay, thanks? Area is Jeff George.

2705
02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 2: The New Year, you know, the Christmas is going to

2706
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 2: rin into the New Year's QB here it'll be the

2707
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:30,320
Speaker 2: playoff QB. Right, the Houston game, I believe is in

2708
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 2: the year of twenty twenty six in all serious and

2709
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,880
Speaker 2: that's awesome, awesome work from Jeff George and Marcus tweet

2710
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 2: that from a show account. I just retweeted that. So

2711
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 2: if you follow me on Twitter, head to my Twitter

2712
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 2: page and you'll see CHRISTMASQB dot com.

2713
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 3: All right, coming up in a minute. What are we

2714
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 3: gonna be up to tonight?

2715
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 1: There's no college basketball game for us to focus on tonight.

2716
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 1: The Pacers don't play until tomorrow. Colts have the day

2717
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 1: off from practice, but we've got things playing. We'll tell

2718
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 1: you all about it next ninety three five one seven

2719
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 1: fans to a close here on a Wednesday, as we

2720
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 1: get ready to pass it off the ESPN for a

2721
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 1: few hours. And then of course Jake Query comes your

2722
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: way at noon JMV at three o'clock. Some great conversation

2723
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: with Jeff George and Stephen Holder during this hour, and

2724
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 1: the man who did the sixty minute story in Indiana,

2725
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 1: John Wortheim.

2726
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 3: In the eight o'clock hour.

2727
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out one O seven five thefan

2728
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 1: dot com a little bit later on for those if

2729
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 1: you missed.

2730
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 3: Him and all, so you can check out the very

2731
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 3: latest from Kevin.

2732
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 1: Bowen on there. Kevin what have we been writing about

2733
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 1: all week? I'm guessing it has to do with the

2734
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 1: quarterback situation.

2735
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 2: Yes, pluroughly yes, quarterbacks, Philip Rivers, Anthony Richardson. Where things

2736
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 2: stand there? Boy, I think Jeff George made his stance

2737
02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 2: pretty clear.

2738
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 3: He liked he wants to see Anthony Richardson.

2739
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 2: Is that he likes to see He also wants to

2740
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 2: see Riley Leonard over Philip Rivers, is the impression I

2741
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 2: got as well. So the old guy is maybe not

2742
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 2: sticking together necessarily there, But that is Jeff George's wish.

2743
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 2: But Shane Stagen made it abundantly clear on Monday it

2744
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 2: will be Philip Rivers for the forty nine Ers game,

2745
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 2: and I have a feeling it'll Behlip Rivers after that

2746
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 2: as well.

2747
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 1: What happens, James if Philip Rivers just can't get the

2748
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 1: offense going again and they really aren't doing anything and

2749
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 1: they once again are held at two hundred and fifteen

2750
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: to two hundred and twenty yards total offense somewhere in there,

2751
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 1: does Shane Stiken double down and go Nope, I'm gonna

2752
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 1: stay here.

2753
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 4: I think it depends on if they want to lose.

2754
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,480
Speaker 4: I even think the competition will be different right now

2755
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 4: today had they won that game, if he had the

2756
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 4: same exact stat line without the interception at the end.

2757
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 4: Because the defense held up and they won that game,

2758
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 4: we're sitting here today at least I am probably saying, well,

2759
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 4: stay with the guy who won you the game. That's

2760
02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 4: how finicky some of this stuff can be. But aside

2761
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 4: from that, if they lose the game, and if Philip

2762
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,440
Speaker 4: rivers again it looks like a guy who can't throw

2763
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 4: the ball past the sticks, then I think you have

2764
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 4: to become a serious conversation even without Anthony Richardson. If

2765
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson is available to practice and particilarly play next

2766
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 4: week against the Jaguars, then yeah, I think it becomes

2767
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 4: a huge conversation. But beyond that, I feel like I

2768
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 4: should be asking, well, what about Riley? If your offense

2769
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 4: just can't physically get down the field, and to Jeff's point,

2770
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 4: and not too Jeff, but Jeff George's point about not

2771
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 4: being able to move the ball. If your offense is

2772
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 4: just a bunch of field goals and maybe a touchdown,

2773
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 4: that won't be enough for you to get into the dance.

2774
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you cannot sustain that offensive effort from Sunday. I

2775
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 2: understand there was a game plan approach to it that

2776
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 2: probably contributed some of that. Of course, my question would

2777
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:28,839
Speaker 2: then be, okay, what will be different, But an offense

2778
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 2: that has the worst yards per play we've seen all

2779
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 2: season two plays over fifteen yards, the worst yards pert

2780
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 2: temp we've seen also all season long, like that is

2781
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 2: not sustainable. Now, again, how much of that is chalked

2782
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:44,879
Speaker 2: up to week one of Rivers Seattle's defense, That environment

2783
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 2: San Francisco is not that defense, Lucasholo Stadium is not Seattle,

2784
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 2: and Philip Rivers does now get three more additional days

2785
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 2: of practice. Of course, you know it's not Henry rohen

2786
02:04:57,920 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 2: Gardner growing an arm here.

2787
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 1: And then last week, Yeah, I thought Travis on the

2788
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 1: text line asked an excellent question too, and I know

2789
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 1: you responded to him, Kevin, But if it's a series

2790
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 1: of three and outs or maybe a first down here

2791
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,400
Speaker 1: in punts and there's six or seven punts and they

2792
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 1: just can't generate offense, do the boo birds come out

2793
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 1: in the second half on Monday?

2794
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 7: Kevin?

2795
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah.

2796
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 1: Regardless of the great story that is Philip rivers. At

2797
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 1: some point the crowd is like, this is not.

2798
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 2: Working, you know, and again, booing is booing. But you know,

2799
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 2: how much are you booing the quarterback decision? How much

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Speaker 2: you're booing a football team that has lost four in

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Speaker 2: a row and could be five in a row, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's won one games in Halloween. I you know,

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Speaker 2: defining the boo birds is always something that's probably a

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Speaker 2: little bit difficult.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing I can't get past. If a

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Speaker 1: week I'll give you Monday night. But coming out of

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02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: those last two divisional games, if Anthony Richardson is healthy

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Speaker 1: and ready to go, you're telling me that a forty

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Speaker 1: four year old that hadn't played football, and even even

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02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 1: though he's got one game under his belt, would have

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02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:05,839
Speaker 1: now like ten to fourteen days of reintegration into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that your fourth overall pick from just

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02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago is not the guy you

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Speaker 1: want to go with as opposed to a forty four

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Speaker 1: year old who just got off.

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Speaker 5: The couch two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I find that a fascinating thought, James.

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Speaker 4: That's where we're at in this weird cold season. So

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Speaker 4: I want to say I'm surprised, but I'm really not,

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Speaker 4: just because this team has always kind of kept me

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02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 4: on my toes with some of the unique decisions that

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Speaker 4: are made. But yeah, I think again, it's a conversation

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Speaker 4: to have if and when ar is, I believe you know,

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Speaker 4: available to play.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's going to wrap it up for us

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Speaker 1: today on this Wednesday here at ninety three five one

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Speaker 1: h seventy five the fan again, jac at noon, jamb

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Speaker 1: at three. Great job, James, great job, Kevin Mark, unbelievable

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Speaker 1: job today.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow morning.