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Speaker 4: Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln bobingas banabingun feed bin ling gun Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: Wake up, Wake up, Cincinnati. It's time to turn up

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Speaker 4: the buzz. From bond Hill to Price Hill, from Avondale

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Speaker 4: are the buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station. And and

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Speaker 4: this is the Lincoln War Show. I'm Kevin Aldridge sitting

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Speaker 4: in for Lincoln Where today until twelve twenty five. That's right.

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Speaker 4: We're getting started on Christmas vacation about a half hour

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Speaker 4: twelve thirty today, so we'll be cutting things off a

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Speaker 4: sign off of twelve thirty at twelve thirty. Merry Christmas

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Speaker 4: to everybody out there a couple of days away. Hopefully

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Speaker 4: One of my favorite times of the year is Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Tis the season to be jolly. And we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: down on some local, state, and national news today, and boy,

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Speaker 4: about the fifth or sixth time I've sat in for Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: I am the opinion editor at the Cincinnati Enquirer. I

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Speaker 4: about this morning. The third batch of the Epstein files

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Speaker 4: I'm doing very well. Who we're looking for today?

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Speaker 5: We are looking for Cincinnati Police District four looking for

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Speaker 5: Jeremy Petty John. Mister Petty John is wanted for felony

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Speaker 5: tampering with evidence, felony drug possession, and misdemeanor drug Paarfernelia.

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Speaker 5: Jeremy Petty John is a male black, forty years old,

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Speaker 5: we're looking for Jose Dejzeus. He is wanted by the

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Speaker 5: Ohio Adult Parole Authority or a felony parole violation. Mister

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Speaker 5: Dejazeus was originally charged with robbery. Jose Dejazeus is a

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Speaker 5: Thank you stirring Merry Christmas to you, all right.

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Speaker 4: All right, so there you have it. If you know

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Hey, did we ever figure out if Trump's related to

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Speaker 5: I did you ever get.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: Was in there, and not a peepe not a peep.

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Speaker 6: That sheet and Joyce, I hate to break.

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Speaker 2: This to you, says, but you're funding this ballroom. Every

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Speaker 6: As you sit here and you.

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Speaker 2: The White House, Kevin, and we're crying about a ballroom.

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Speaker 4: me finish my point, White Lion. You know, last time

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Speaker 4: You don't think that's a Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, the amount of money we donate to communities and

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and help you get diabetes

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Speaker 4: But that's a broad generalization way that that. I mean.

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Speaker 4: But but see, I think that's the problem is that

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Speaker 2: Like, I wasn't buying the ritos with my Snap benefits.

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Speaker 2: So we will be poisoned. I mean, come on, man, so.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Kevin. I like to think I'm trying to be

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Speaker 6: You can't get eight abortions because you've done laid on

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Speaker 2: It up all the time.

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Speaker 2: Just keep killing baby. So I don't know what that

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you know what I mean, I

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Speaker 2: All crooked anymore. We're compromised by Israel. Everything is cooked.

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Speaker 2: There ain't nobody coming to fix nobody.

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Speaker 6: I quit listen to this show for about a month,

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Speaker 2: It's still the same old We need to organize.

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Speaker 6: It's been the same.

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Speaker 2: Thing for years. Ain't nothing gonna change. We are being

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Speaker 2: Well, why ain't they passing them bills?

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Speaker 2: I have a good Christmas.

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Speaker 4: then when we come back, we're gonna have Jay Wright

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Speaker 4: and he wants to address some of the comments made

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Speaker 4: by white Lyon. So when we come back, we'll get

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Speaker 4: Jay on the phone and more calls from U seven

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Speaker 4: four nine. Twelve thirty is the number if you want

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Speaker 4: until twelve thirty today, and we're off to a hot start.

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Speaker 4: White Lyon got it popping. Got a lot of commentary

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Speaker 4: going on in the chat as well. If you are

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Speaker 4: listening in on your radio, you can also find us

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Speaker 4: on Facebook Live. Encourage you to go there and you

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Speaker 4: can join in the conversation. All right, We're going to

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Speaker 4: go to the phones, and we got Jay Wright, who's

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Speaker 4: been waiting patiently. Jay, what's on your mind this morning?

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Speaker 1: Kevin Alrich, thank you sir for being in the studio.

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Speaker 1: I really want to appreciate. I appreciate you being there,

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Speaker 1: and I want to say, that's why get into my

454
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Speaker 1: my little speel on that that that your last caller.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, E and Kevin?

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Speaker 1: Which one is it?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Which one is the most appropriate? Are policy correct? Is

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Speaker 1: it happy Holidays? Is it Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Brother? I say Mary Christmas and happy Holidays? But I

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Speaker 4: you know this, this is Christmas, So I say Mary Christmas, right.

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Speaker 1: Because it only comes around once a year, right, right,

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Speaker 1: And we've been celebrating this for a long time, whether

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Speaker 1: we knew all the engine outs of it. So, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: again I want to say happy Holo America all the listeners.

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Speaker 1: This is my father, one of the greatest shows there

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Speaker 1: is on earth. So I'm really proud, really happy to

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Speaker 1: be a part of it. The white Lions are the

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Speaker 1: white liars you're dealing with the five time draft dogs

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Speaker 1: that's currently the commander in chief.

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Speaker 4: Mh.

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Speaker 1: You might as go leave Joyce alone because we would

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Speaker 1: much prefer to hear what Joyce has to say and

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Speaker 1: anything that comes from you. You are my dummy of

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Speaker 1: the year, self appointed. You've appointed yourself to be the

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Speaker 1: dummy the year because of the dumb things you say

478
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Speaker 1: when you call the show. If you're concerned about the

479
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Speaker 1: cocaine that was founding the White House under Biden, you

480
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Speaker 1: better be more concerned about the cocaine that may be

481
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Speaker 1: found on those all those ships that be blown up.

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Speaker 1: Where's that cocaine mat you know where that is? That

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Speaker 1: should be your concern because I'm willing to bet you

484
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Speaker 1: that's if they if they have, if they took the cocaine,

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Speaker 1: it's far more than what was filed in the White House.

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Speaker 1: That should be your concern. Just recently, the same man

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Speaker 1: that's your commander and the comedian in chief just recently

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Speaker 1: pardon the Honduria's the guy from Hondors. That guy was

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Speaker 1: a joke smuggler. I mean, he don't with all kind

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Speaker 1: of cocaines. So is that not a problem for you,

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Speaker 1: white lion? A white man's recently, we had a long gunment,

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Speaker 1: killed two soldiers in Syria. I am retired on the

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Speaker 1: AC spent twenty three years, eight month, thirteen days to

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Speaker 1: combat tours. I have to say we had a long

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Speaker 1: gun and killed two soldiers in Syria recently. Two days later,

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Speaker 1: this heap type guy and dump and and I call

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Speaker 1: him down because I won't ever use the name Trump,

498
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Speaker 1: because that's a brand, that's a marketing name, that's a brand.

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Speaker 1: He has a brand in that name Trump, right, so

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Speaker 1: I like to call him down, just uncomfortable. Right. But

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Speaker 1: two days later in Syria we blew up somewhat ice

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Speaker 1: and stuff and said that we were we went in

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Speaker 1: there because we weren't. We're going to destroy the Islamic state.

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Speaker 1: And two days white man, where does it get the

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Speaker 1: intelligence to know where to blow up? Two days later

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Speaker 1: alone gunment, not an army of folks, a long gunment.

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Speaker 1: They said he was an iSER sympathizer. They went in

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Speaker 1: two days later and grew up whatever at least made

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Speaker 1: us believe that they did all this. Does he really

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Speaker 1: know is evenly paying attention to us. He's just trying

511
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Speaker 1: to satisfy himself with these little calling the show and

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Speaker 1: think he's aggravating us or agitating us. It's not working,

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Speaker 1: and the bigger issues, they are bigger issues. You'rebsolutely right, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: This is again thank you for being there. But this

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Speaker 1: dude needs some checks and balances. And I would have

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Speaker 1: loved to talk to him. I would have loved for

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Speaker 1: him to have stayed on the show long enough for

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Speaker 1: me to ask him some questions that I know would

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Speaker 1: make him uncomfortable, because I believe he is the same

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Speaker 1: man that's getting his information from the station. I paid

521
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Speaker 1: nine hundred billion dollars to tell lies. They paid nine

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Speaker 1: hundred million to tell lies. So if that's where you're

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Speaker 1: getting your.

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Speaker 6: Information from anybody in relations and anybody.

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Speaker 1: In that area, then you're the problem, white man, not us.

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Speaker 1: You are the problem. You are delusional and you're you

527
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: have decided to fall for whatever they're selling you. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: Verry Christmas to your brother, and you're there man, and

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Speaker 1: uh Taryce Howell my favorite life can African Americans. That's

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Speaker 1: my dude, and you all all the listeners.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Jay, Merry Christmas to you two.

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Speaker 4: All right. That was Jay there who who said a lot.

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Speaker 4: And I think that you know I was telling some

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Speaker 4: folks this, and the chat is that, you know, the

535
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Speaker 4: counterbalance to to white line if you don't like what

536
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Speaker 4: he has to say is all of you, the callers.

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Speaker 4: You know, you guys come in and this is where

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Speaker 4: we have the debate and the conversation and the checks

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Speaker 4: and balances are are you the callers as as Jay

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Speaker 4: just did, called in set the record, strate said what

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Speaker 4: he had to say. That's what that's what good debate

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Speaker 4: should be about. The unfortunate thing is, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 4: in these platforms like this, you don't have the amount

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Speaker 4: of time that that it takes to kind of dissect

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Speaker 4: and and uh take apart. You know a lot of

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Speaker 4: these argument, arguments and conversations in a couple of minutes

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Speaker 4: kind of difficult to do in a format like this

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Speaker 4: unless you're going to have an hour hour or so

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Speaker 4: dedicated to a particular topic or a couple of different callers.

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Speaker 4: And so I certainly wish we had more time to

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Speaker 4: dissect each and every point that every caller brings to

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Speaker 4: the table here, because I think there's some good, good

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Speaker 4: points of conversation. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break,

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Speaker 4: and when we come back, we got Rod and Ray

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Speaker 4: on the line. Uh, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty is

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Speaker 4: the number if you want to get in on the conversation,

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Speaker 4: and we hope that you will. This is the Lincoln

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Speaker 4: Where Show until twelve thirty today on WDBZ The Buzz

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Speaker 4: of Cincinnati until twelve thirty. All right, we're gonna go

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Speaker 4: back to the phones. We've got Rod and Ray who've

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Speaker 4: been waiting on Hold? Rod, what's on your mind this morning?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 7: What's going on? Kevin?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm doing good. How about yourself?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I talked to you once or twice I think before, Yes, sir, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I gonna work, but I just took some time out

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Speaker 7: to allow you and put my two cents in, you know,

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Speaker 7: on some the topics.

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Speaker 1: I guess a couple of things.

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Speaker 7: But anyway, I want to say about Trump. This guy man, Now,

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Speaker 7: it's when when January the sixth happened. When that happened,

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Speaker 7: right away, I knew, I told myself, this guy here

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Speaker 7: can get away with anything, because on January sixth, I mean,

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Speaker 7: people died and he never had he was never held

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Speaker 7: accountable for that. You know, people, people lost their lives,

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Speaker 7: People broke the law, he knew that those that there

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Speaker 7: were some people who were armed, and that they were

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Speaker 7: going down to the Capitol. He knew they were armed,

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Speaker 7: and he told him to go down there anyway. He

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Speaker 7: told him, you know, he it was his suggestion. He

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Speaker 7: said he was gonna meet him down there, and he did,

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Speaker 7: and he faked him out. He lied. So why is

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Speaker 7: it when when he wouldn't when he didn't get held

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Speaker 7: accountable for that. Right away, I told myself, this guy

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Speaker 7: can get away with murder because that was just pure murder.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they try to say that the guy that

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Speaker 7: shot the girl. Uh, they keep trying to say, this guy,

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Speaker 7: you know, committed murder by shooting that girl that tried

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Speaker 7: to break in the White House when she was forcing

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Speaker 7: the way in that that black security guard shot her

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Speaker 7: and killed her. And they keep saying, you murdered her.

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Speaker 7: But he had He was just doing his job. And

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Speaker 7: all those people who was attacking those police officers, they

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Speaker 7: didn't get shot, but in all reality, they could have

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Speaker 7: got shot because I just think that you know, those people,

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Speaker 7: those police officers bent over backwards and for some reason,

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Speaker 7: there was no national guards, nothing called in or you know,

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Speaker 7: no backup or nothing for some reason, you know, and Trump,

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Speaker 7: and Trump had a lot to do with that, but

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Speaker 7: he was never held accountable for those crimes committing committed

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Speaker 7: on that day, including murder or or the deaths of

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Speaker 7: those people. Those five officers who worked for the Capitol

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Speaker 7: who died, they also died they got killed or they

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Speaker 7: died like the next day. And then some of them

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Speaker 7: can even committed suicide.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: But I want to say this also, Kevin, this Trump guy, Okay,

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Speaker 7: so when he got away with that, okay, he subtly

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Speaker 7: killed people. He also subtly killed people when it come

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Speaker 7: to COVID. When it came to COVID, he lied about COVID.

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Speaker 7: That's another way he killed people. Now he's just outright

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Speaker 7: killing people. I mean, he's just bombing boats. And you

614
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Speaker 7: know his next move is to bomb Venezuela itself. You know,

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Speaker 7: he's just outright murdering now. Just you know, he was

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Speaker 7: doing it real subtly first. Now he's just doing it outright,

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Speaker 7: you know, and nobody's stopping it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody.

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Speaker 7: I think him and the Supreme Court, they.

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Speaker 6: All need to just line up and.

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Speaker 9: Go to prison, all of them.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about everybody in the Supreme Court. But

623
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Speaker 7: the ones who keep backing up everything Trump say, I

624
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Speaker 7: think they all need to just go to prison, all

625
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Speaker 7: of them. And this this Epsteain thing, I know, you

626
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Speaker 7: ain't got that much time. I just want to hurt him,

627
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Speaker 7: squeeze in it. I'm gonna work, you know, And I

628
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Speaker 7: just wanted to squeeze that in real quick, if you

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Speaker 7: don't mind.

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Speaker 4: Here, Yeah, hurry up.

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Speaker 7: Okay, the Epsteain thing. Now, it's obvious that you know

632
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Speaker 7: that they're trying to hide something, and I think Trump

633
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Speaker 7: is the one they're trying to protect. You know, this

634
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Speaker 7: guy man should be you know, arrested for that. Also.

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Speaker 7: I think I don't know why, you know, they just

636
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Speaker 7: keep making excuses of why they want bring the files

637
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Speaker 7: out and everything and then let everybody see the files.

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Speaker 7: I think this guy is trying to cover up something,

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Speaker 7: and I truly believe that. You know, it ain't just him,

640
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Speaker 7: but it's mainly he's one of the main ones who

641
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Speaker 7: had the money and who was probably financing that stuff,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's just yeah, okay, all right, well, Rod, listen,

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Speaker 4: thanks for the call. I'm going to respond to some

645
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Speaker 4: of the things that you said. I appreciate you. Merry Christmas, sure.

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Speaker 7: Mary, Christmas to YouTube and a happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: All right, yeah, I mean Rod raises you know a

648
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Speaker 4: lot of points. Let me first just address the January sixth. Now,

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Speaker 4: we are all familiar with Donald Trump saying that he

650
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Speaker 4: could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and he wouldn't lose

651
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Speaker 4: any support. And I think we've come to realize over

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Speaker 4: the last decade how accurate he was in that assessment.

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Speaker 4: Because there's not much that Donald Trump can do that

654
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: MAGA will hold him accountable for. As for January sixth,

655
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 4: and I always like to tell people to go back,

656
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: you know, put yourself back in that day and in

657
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 4: that moment as we were all watching the television footage

658
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: and as things unfolded, you could not deny what was

659
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: happening and who was responsible for what was happening, the

660
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: horror of everything that was happening. And I challenge you

661
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: to go back and look at what everybody was saying

662
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: at that time, even the Republican politicians. You know, remember

663
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham standing up on the on the floor after

664
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 4: after everything had settled down, and how he was done

665
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: with Donald Trump. And this was a bridge too far

666
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: and and and just all of the things that that

667
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: people said, Rob Portman here locally, you know, condemning you know,

668
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 4: Trump and his lack of reaction and leadership and all

669
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: of these other different things, and and and it was

670
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: very clear on January sixth and the subsequent days immediately

671
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: after that, that it was clear everybody knew what they

672
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 4: saw and the verdict was clear. What what what conservatives

673
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: and and and Trump supporters did and and largely aided

674
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: by Fox News, what they did over the course of

675
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: the next year was reshaped that narrative to try to

676
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: convince people. And Donald Trump is very good at this

677
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 4: that what you saw and what you heard wasn't what

678
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: you saw and what you heard. He does this repeatedly.

679
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: He'll say something and then he'll come back and say

680
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: I didn't say that. Even when you go you got

681
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: the video evidence and the tape in the audio, he'll

682
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 4: deny it and they'll change the narrative. And that's what

683
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: is so maddening. As people knew. You know, I talked

684
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: to conservatives in the aftermath of at who who swore

685
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: off Trump? I'm done with him. I think there's a

686
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: local radio host that said the same thing. And y'all

687
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: know who I'm talking about. Swore off Donald Trump, and

688
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: yet those same people turned around and voted for him

689
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: in this last election. And that is just some of

690
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: what is unconscionable about kind of where we are. You

691
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: know that this is a bad dude. You know what

692
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 4: he's done and what he's capable of, and yet people

693
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: are still throwing their support behind him, defending him. And

694
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, I just wonder how you reconcile that in

695
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: your soul and in your spirit. All Right, we're gonna

696
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 4: take a quick break and when we come back, we're

697
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: gonna have a conversation with Ray. Seven four nine, twelve

698
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: thirty is the number if you want to get on

699
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: the call. This is twelve thirty WDBZ. The Lincoln were

700
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: show until twelve thirty. Lincoln Ware wishing everybody within the

701
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: sound of my voice a merry Christmas. All right, we're

702
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: going to head back to the phone lines. We got Ray.

703
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: Who's been waiting? Ray? What's on your mind this morning?

704
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: What's up? Kevin?

705
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm doing good? How about yourself?

706
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 3: You know what, Lincoln, don't mind us talking about Connie

707
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: hem so you know, I'll say.

708
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Speaker 4: It Okay, there you go, you do that, he let us.

709
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: Call out his name. Okyo, But Kevin went and when

710
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 3: when people realize that white folks, black Republicans, and Maga Republicans,

711
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 3: they were rather vote for a dirty white guy who's

712
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: a crook, and it was charged with, you know, convicted

713
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: on thirty four counts over a black woman who's much

714
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: more qualified. Uh. You know, it's it's it's it's racist.

715
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: You know, it's racism. So people just need to realize that.

716
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: But a couple of things, you know, uh, like lyon

717
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: he is irrelevant, he's maga. You know, have you ever

718
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: gone toe to toe with a maga Republican and came

719
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: out the winner? Has never convinced a maga you mean mine?

720
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Speaker 4: Oh you mean you don't mean on the substance of facts,

721
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: you mean in terms of convincing them or changing right? No?

722
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: No, okay, so you you will never win when you

723
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: when you're talking to a mega. But yeah, I'm going

724
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: back to yesterday because they're the guy we were talking

725
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: about the aggregation. That's uh uh. And then a guy

726
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: called after me and said, you know, I was contradicting myself.

727
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: Let me educate this one guy aggregation is voted farm

728
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: by the city, right, Yes, okay, people go into the

729
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: boost and they vote for it has nothing to do

730
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: with this guy said, he called Duke yesterday. Do get

731
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: had to do it, you know. But everybody gets a

732
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: letter and said if you want to opt out, you

733
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: can opt out. It's just playing this day. They give

734
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: you the phone number, you know, and it's not five, ten,

735
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: twelve pages, it's one letter, you know, and you call

736
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: that number say I don't want it, and then they'll

737
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: take you off of it. My only issue with the

738
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: aggregation thing is I shouldn't have to be able to

739
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: opt out of anything. That's almost like you going for

740
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: you going in for all change. You go to tire discounts, Well,

741
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: we give you all change, but we're going to do

742
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: a break job. But if you don't want to break job,

743
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: you got to tell us before we do the all change.

744
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 7: You know.

745
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: It's just just basically that's something we should be able

746
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: to opt in.

747
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, right, Yeah, no, that you're

748
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: You're exactly right. The I always think about those opt

749
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 4: out things. It's sort of like when you take that

750
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: free seven day trial and they tell you, you know, for

751
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 4: whatever it is that you sign up for. They say

752
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 4: you got seven days, you know, for the free trial,

753
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: but you got to go in and cancel, and if

754
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: you don't go in and cancel, then it automatically builds

755
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: your credit card or whatever like that. They set it

756
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: up that way, I think because what they sort of

757
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: count on, and this happens more times than not, is

758
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 4: that you'll get busy and you'll forget, and then after

759
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 4: that seven days or thirty days, whatever it is, you

760
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: will only remember it when you see that charge show

761
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: up on your credit card or in your bank account

762
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 4: for the first time you go, oh, man, I forgot

763
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: to call in and cancel that. I feel like that

764
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: opt out is kind of similar to that versus the

765
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: opt in, Right, It's almost you don't want to go

766
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: so far. Some people will. I won't to go so

767
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: far as to say it's a way to trick you

768
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: into into doing something that you might not want to do.

769
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 4: But I agree with you. I think a better way

770
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: to do it is let the people vote on it,

771
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: and then if it becomes eligible, then what you say

772
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: is if you want this, then you have to take

773
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 4: the step to go ask for it to do it.

774
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: Instead of being automatically it on it and then saying

775
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: you don't want it, so I agree with you on right.

776
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: It's almost like it's almost like it's backwards.

777
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 8: You know.

778
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: You ever, if you ever get cable, they give you

779
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: this great deal for a year, and if you don't

780
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 3: call and say well remove it after after the year,

781
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: now you you're still gonna keep paying for it because

782
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: now you're used to it. Yeah, you know, there's no

783
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: different than one last thing. Joe, uh, you talked about

784
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: the Rodham family. I think am I getting a name right?

785
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: Nathan is their last name.

786
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Her name was rode to Nathan. Now now this family,

787
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: they're more upset that the charges can never be brought

788
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 3: against Elwood Jones than to be upset with deaders who

789
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: with held evidence that's kind of half passed backwards. I

790
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: would be pissed off at deaters. Now, you know, you

791
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: with held evidence from an innocent guy where where the

792
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: real killer is probably dead and gone, and you could

793
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 3: have had the real killer in jail. But JADUs would

794
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 3: rather have a black man, you know, pay for something

795
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: that he didn't do, just to get to win. And

796
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: that family, you know, I pray for their family and

797
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: they'll probably never get justice. That kill us probably long gone.

798
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: But their focus should have been on deaders, you know,

799
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: even after everything came out. Yeah, you know, you know.

800
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 4: But no, And I'll say this as quickly as I can,

801
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: and I'll let you kind of respond for it, and

802
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: then we'll let you go, you know, in a weird way.

803
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 4: I don't I don't blame the family for feeling any

804
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 4: kind of way, because you kind of got to put

805
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: yourselves in their shoes. You trust the legal and the

806
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: judicial process to do what it is. And I'm sure

807
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: that they were being told by the prosecutors and everybody

808
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 4: else that they had their man and had convinced them

809
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 4: for however many years since nineteen ninety four, that this

810
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 4: was their guy. And so when you kind of buy

811
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: into that and you believe that as a family, and

812
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: Joe Dieters in back and down off of that, he's

813
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 4: not even he's not even acknowledging this, this notion of

814
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: the evidence being withheld. I mean, if you looked at

815
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 4: his comments that he's made in the media, he says,

816
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: he's saying that that's not true, that they didn't you know,

817
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: that they didn't withhold anything.

818
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: So Joe did that on Cunningham So everybody he said

819
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: that on Cunningham Show.

820
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he did.

821
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: He said, we withheld evidence because it wouldn't have made

822
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 3: a difference to the jury. You go back and listen

823
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: to the tape. He actually said that.

824
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's sticking to his guns. And if you

825
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: are a member of that family and you've invested, like

826
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: I think, it's hard. I really do. I think it's

827
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Speaker 4: hard for you to divorce yourself from something that you've

828
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 4: believed for a couple of decades, because, like I said,

829
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Speaker 4: it's a tragedy for them one way or the other.

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00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 4: It's it's a tragedy that if if Elwood Jones is

831
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: actually guilty and he got off because of missteps in

832
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 4: the process or whatever, that's a tragedy. It's also a

833
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: tragedy that that if he didn't do it, and they

834
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: didn't do their due diligence in searching for the right

835
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Speaker 4: person and just relied on circumstantial evidence and a lot

836
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: of other things. The people I'm least mad at in

837
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 4: this entire situation, I think is the family, because they

838
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: are ultimately the victim, and one way or the other,

839
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 4: and Elwood Jones certainly is is if he didn't do it.

840
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: So it's one of those things where I said, this

841
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: is why when we are critical of police and prosecutors

842
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: in the court system, it's not because we don't support them.

843
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 4: It's because you understand the importance of good process, good

844
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: police work, and how important that is to truly getting justice.

845
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: Because when you get it wrong, this is what you're

846
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: left with.

847
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Broke, I'll leave you with this, and I want

848
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: your opinion on it. While Republicans so obsessed with Epstein?

849
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: Are they so obsessed with Epstein?

850
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 3: Why do they want to see these all this information

851
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: come out? Because Trump Trump Trump. No matter everything that

852
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: Trump has done, he's a racist, he was a rapist,

853
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: he was convicted on sexual assault and on thirty four accounts,

854
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: and they still supporting. So what is it about the

855
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: Epstein file that has Republicans so obsessed?

856
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: All right, Ray, I'm gonna I'm gonna answer your question.

857
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you go and then I'm gonna answer

858
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Speaker 4: your question. You can listen off air, all right, have

859
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 4: a merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: All right, you too, though, So here's.

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Speaker 4: What I think is and I'm not saying that this

862
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: is right or justification. But I think because you're talking

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Speaker 4: about young girls and maybe even the cases, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: kids or what level of how young exactly these young

866
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Speaker 4: women were that are involved in this, But I think

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Speaker 4: the age of the victims, Wow, that shouldn't matter any

868
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Speaker 4: more than the women that Donald Trump was accused of

869
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Speaker 4: of of assaulting and in some cases found not criminally liable.

870
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Speaker 4: But I believe civilly lible convicted of those things, the

871
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Speaker 4: aide shouldn't matter, But in this case, I think it does.

872
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Speaker 4: I think that's why so many MAGA folks and conservatives

873
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Speaker 4: were were infatuated with the Epstein files. I think the

874
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Speaker 4: other reason is is because they assumed that a lot

875
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Speaker 4: of Democrats were going to be the victim or we're

876
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Speaker 4: going to be participants in this like that. That was

877
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Speaker 4: part of it. Is they were anxious to get to

878
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Speaker 4: the victim's list because there was a there was kind

879
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: of a partisan tinge to it that they thought that

880
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Speaker 4: there were going to be a lot of democratic politicians,

881
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Speaker 4: maybe Hollywood types who tend to be liberal, who were

882
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: going to be on that Epstein list. And that's what

883
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Speaker 4: they were they were interested in. And I think that's

884
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Speaker 4: why you saw this in the initial release of information

885
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: that you know, the d O Trump's DLJ was trying

886
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Speaker 4: to push out these these photos and images of Bill

887
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Speaker 4: Clinton because that that played into the narrative that I

888
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 4: think what many conservatives kind of expected or thought that

889
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Speaker 4: they would get out of the Epstein files, that you

890
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Speaker 4: would get the Bill Clinton's and maybe some other high

891
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 4: profile Democrats or liberals who would be on that list.

892
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Speaker 4: I tend to think that, you know, you're going to

893
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Speaker 4: see a lot of wealthy people Democrats and Republicans and

894
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 4: and and of no stripes who were going to get

895
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Speaker 4: caught up in in the Epstein files if we ever,

896
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Speaker 4: you know, do get a list of those who were

897
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Speaker 4: participating in in that. But but to answer your question,

898
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Speaker 4: I think that's that's why they were super energized to

899
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Speaker 4: get the Epstein files released and and see what's in there.

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Speaker 4: And of course we know, you know, Trump has had

901
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: had a long time friendship and relationship with Epstein, and

902
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 4: and there's no doubt that you know, he was very

903
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Speaker 4: concerned about what was in there on him. And even

904
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Speaker 4: if it wasn't any something concrete that showed that he

905
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Speaker 4: was directly involved, that there were probably gonna be some

906
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Speaker 4: things in there that at least made him look bad

907
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 4: or you know, drew some questions that you could kind

908
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Speaker 4: of tag onto him. So there's there's no doubt that

909
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Speaker 4: he's protecting whether it's himself or somebody close to him,

910
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: or people that he knows who are in power. That

911
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: much is evident in terms of how they're dragging their feet.

912
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Speaker 4: All right, we're going to take a quick break and

913
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Speaker 4: when we come back, we got Bill on the line.

914
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 4: We're going to get to him and more calls from

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Speaker 4: U seven four nine to twelve thirty is the number

916
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Speaker 4: to call if you want to get on board. We

917
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: got about an hour and fifteen minutes left in the

918
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 4: show today, so make sure you get it in before

919
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Speaker 4: the Christmas holiday. Twelve thirty WDBZ the Buzz of Cincinnati.

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00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 4: There sitting in for Lincoln, where we got about an

921
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Speaker 4: hour left today. Louisville football coming on on at twelve thirty. Man.

922
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of football coming up over the next

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Speaker 4: three or four days. College football, NFL. We're in that

924
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: time of year, college football playoffs. Who you got into

925
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: college football playoffs? We got buck Eye fans, Roll Tide fans,

926
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Speaker 4: Indiana Hoo's your fans. I'm kind of torn because I

927
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Speaker 4: think Ohio State plays Miami in the next round. And

928
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Speaker 4: I'm a Buckeyes fan, you know, kind of always have been.

929
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Speaker 4: But when I was a kid, I grew I loved

930
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Speaker 4: the Hurricanes, loved the U when I was coming up.

931
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Speaker 4: That's when they had, you know, Michael Irvin and the

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Johnson era, and when they were winning all those

933
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Speaker 4: national championships and they were kind of the the rough

934
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Speaker 4: and tumble squad. You remember when them and Notre Dame

935
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Speaker 4: had the rivalry going on. I think ESPN and did

936
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Speaker 4: a thirty for thirty special that they they titled Catholics

937
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Speaker 4: Versus Convicts. I think they came up with that because somebody,

938
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Speaker 4: Notre Dame guy, made some T shirts one year that

939
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Speaker 4: had that on it. There was a whole documentary about that.

940
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I love the U. So I'm a little

941
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Speaker 4: bit torn, you know, on that particular game. I guess

942
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Speaker 4: I guess I can't really lose one way or the

943
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Speaker 4: other no matter who comes out. I'd be okay with it.

944
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Speaker 4: But if I had to put my money on somewhere.

945
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna roll with the buck eyes. All right, We're

946
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Speaker 4: gonna go back to the phones, and we got Bill,

947
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Speaker 4: who's been waiting patiently. Bill, what's on your mind?

948
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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, mister average Aldridge. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

949
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Speaker 4: Hey, listen, Bill. I only did that because because Terrence

950
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Speaker 4: told me that I had to correct people when they

951
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 4: come on and mispronounce my name, So I just had

952
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Speaker 4: to do that for the real Terrence. Get a right,

953
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Speaker 4: Bill that Gunnet.

954
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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, absolutely. I just want to give how much

955
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Speaker 8: to mister ware for taking some well deserved time off

956
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 8: my Sunday Soul Classic request right now is Barry White.

957
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 8: Your sweetness is my weakness. If he's doing Sunday Soul

958
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 8: Classic Sunday and Terrence, my request for you is Alexander

959
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 8: O'Neill's fake. I want to say that it is really, really,

960
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 8: really disturbing of the fact that I'm hearing that Donald

961
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Speaker 8: Trump is hosting the Kennedy Honorey Kennedy Center Honorey. Now,

962
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 8: what does he know anything about any of these artists

963
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 8: or these actors you know in the industry. He spends

964
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Speaker 8: so much time damaging the world and everything with the

965
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Speaker 8: economy the way it is, and it's just disgusting to

966
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 8: just see his face everywhere and next thing, you know,

967
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 8: he'd be hosting the Grammy. Next thing, you know, he'll

968
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Speaker 8: be doing something else. For seeing his move you know,

969
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 8: all over the nature and it's just disturbing, it really is.

970
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 8: As far as Epstein is concerned, you know, he's just

971
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Speaker 8: another individual man that just his marbles are just gone upstairs.

972
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Speaker 2: Man.

973
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Speaker 8: But you know, I'm just gonna give homage two people like.

974
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Speaker 3: I was rawly.

975
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Speaker 8: And I forgot his name whatever, But these people are

976
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 8: doing their job and everything, and it's just great that

977
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Speaker 8: Twin is not on the station. It is really really,

978
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Speaker 8: really really.

979
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Speaker 9: H refreshing and hearing.

980
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 8: Curtis well yesterday, I tell you the truth made my

981
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 8: stomach sick. But you know him, Miss Doldrich, Hey, you

982
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 8: keep up doing the good work man. Okay, Misaware, Hey,

983
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 8: you enjoy that well deserved time off. And then miss

984
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Speaker 8: where Hey, take.

985
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Speaker 4: Care all right, Bill, Merry Christmas to you. All right, Yes,

986
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 4: Lincoln where taking some well deserved vacation time. And uh,

987
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: you know, I always say, we don't know what we

988
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 4: got until we don't have it, And Lincoln is an

989
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 4: incredibly important part of this community and steering and driving

990
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: the conversation and and the way that he does it,

991
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: in the manner in which he does it. And I know,

992
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: I know some of the callers, Uh get mad at Lincoln.

993
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 4: He don't give me enough time to don't you don't

994
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: let me say what I want to say many from

995
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: but I think Lincoln does an incredibly good job. This

996
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: is a hard seed to sit in. I've said it,

997
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: you know, I've done this now probably about five or

998
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 4: six times. And it's not as easy as it as

999
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: it looks, as it seems off hand if you're just listening.

1000
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: And so Lincoln is the ultimate pro and so he

1001
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 4: deserves to have a little bit of time to recharge

1002
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: and refresh and come back strong for y'all after the holidays.

1003
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna go to Stevie. Oh, who wants

1004
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 4: to talk about the Epstein files. Stevie, what's going on?

1005
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 10: What's going on?

1006
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: Brother?

1007
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: Good? How are you?

1008
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 10: I'm great, I'm great. I just want to send a

1009
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 10: quick shout out to my sisters JB, Beverly and Linda,

1010
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 10: but my partner Jeff. But this is one of the

1011
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 10: times where you see the hypocrisy of the America. We

1012
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 10: claim that we love children and we want to protect them,

1013
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 10: but just right here is just you know, it's it

1014
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 10: blows up in the face that we you know, that

1015
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 10: we cherished the kids like we say we do.

1016
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: Because.

1017
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 10: They've been covering this up for since two thousand and eight,

1018
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 10: when I guess when Acosta gave him the sweetheart deal.

1019
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 7: But I think right.

1020
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 10: Now Trump know he can't stop it. It's coming out,

1021
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 10: whether he wanted to or not. So he's doing everything

1022
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 10: to distract us with this fake Venezuela war. Now he's

1023
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 10: trying to talk trash about Columbia and all of that.

1024
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 10: So those who supported him, I hope you was wishing

1025
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 10: for this, because this is what you got. A guy

1026
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 10: that's demented and out of control. And I'm just wondering.

1027
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 10: I don't know if you've seen Dave Advance yesterday with

1028
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 10: his rally looked like a white supremacy rally, and of

1029
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 10: all people, Nicki Mina show.

1030
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Speaker 1: Up to that.

1031
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 10: So we got a one where she's at I mean,

1032
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 10: she needs to be ostracized from the community because she

1033
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 10: already got a pedophile in her life. So it's just misdirected.

1034
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 10: I don't know what you want to call him, but

1035
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 10: people just had a tune and out of touch with

1036
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 10: what's really going on when they put that man back

1037
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 10: in office, because he truly is. It's like he hate America.

1038
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 10: But anyway, that's how I got my brother doing a

1039
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 10: great job. And I'll be hollering aaid next time I

1040
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 10: see you on that brother.

1041
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: All right, Stevie, take care of America Christmas? All right? Yeah,

1042
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: I think you know Stevie oh said it seems like

1043
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's hate hates America, don't I don't know that

1044
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 4: Donald Trump hates America. I think he loves himself more

1045
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 4: than anything. And that's the thing about Donald Trump, is

1046
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 4: he is. I think it was, you know. Susie Wilds's

1047
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 4: chief of staff said sheking Donald trump behavior to that

1048
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: of an alcoholic. I don't know if you saw her

1049
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 4: comments along those lines, but she actually said this about

1050
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. She says Donald Trump's behavior is reminiscent of

1051
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 4: that of an alcoholic, sort of saying that that Donald

1052
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 4: Trump is drunk with power, that he's he's obsessed with

1053
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: with the power that he wields and getting leverage over

1054
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: people and and and that's what that's what excites him,

1055
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: that's what that's what sets him off, is this notion

1056
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 4: that he's got all this power and that he can

1057
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 4: lord it over people and just kind of frankly do

1058
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: whatever he wants to do. And and he's kind of

1059
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: drunk off of that. And and you know, Donald Trump

1060
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: has always been someone who was a very self important person,

1061
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 4: who always wanted his name in the paper and and

1062
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: and in entertainment, and he wanted the respect of so

1063
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Speaker 4: many people that he couldn't get it from, whether that's Hollywood,

1064
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: whether that's in the NFL, or in the sports industry.

1065
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: And so now that he had as the power and

1066
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: the influence to be able to get his retribution and

1067
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 4: his revenge, so to speak, that is exactly what he's doing.

1068
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: It's not that he hates America. It's that he does

1069
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: hate certain people, he does hate certain groups, and he

1070
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 4: certainly loves himself. And I think you see that in

1071
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: every decision that Donald Trump makes. All Right, we're gonna

1072
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Speaker 4: take a quick break, and when we come back, we're

1073
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Speaker 4: gonna head into the final hour of our show, twelve

1074
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Speaker 4: thirty WDBZ. This is the Lincoln Where show. The Buzz

1075
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Speaker 4: of Cincinnati, your talk station. Kevin Aldrich sitting in for

1076
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Speaker 4: Lincoln Where today and we've been having a good conversation. Today.

1077
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Speaker 4: We talked about the Epstein files. We talked about Donald

1078
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Speaker 4: Trump putting his name on the Kennedy Center. We've talked

1079
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Speaker 4: about the Corner releasing the autopsy report. It kind of

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Speaker 4: goes against the grain and the l with Jones case.

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Speaker 4: So we've been covering a variety of topics. But we're

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Speaker 4: going to go back to the phones now and we're

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Speaker 4: going to go to miss Netty. Miss Netty, how we doing?

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Speaker 4: You know, usually you kick off the show.

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Speaker 11: I know, but I've been listening. Okay, all right, all right,

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Speaker 11: Greeting to you from Lincoln Heights, and to you Kevin Alridge,

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Speaker 11: the Reverend, Reverend Kevin Alrich, and to the real Terrence Howard.

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Speaker 11: I just could not well, I try to pull myself

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Speaker 11: away from the phone, but I just had to say

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Speaker 11: hello to everyone, and thank you for calling, and Kevin,

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Speaker 11: Reverend Kevin Aulriche, thank you for filling them for Lincoln

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Speaker 11: and his beautiful bride chearing Okay, yes, ma'am, And I

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Speaker 11: just want to say hello and happy holidays to everybody,

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Speaker 11: whether it be Christmas or whether it be Hunakah, whatever

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Speaker 11: you're celebrating, go.

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Speaker 5: Head on, do it, Miss Natty.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna get in trouble if I don't do this.

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Speaker 4: So my wife specifically told me yesterday when I got

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Speaker 4: off the air, she says, the next time that Miss

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Speaker 4: Netty calls you, let Miss Natty know that I love

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Speaker 4: Miss Nattie. Okay, and she would appreciate a shout out

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Speaker 4: from Miss Natty. So my wife's name, Yes, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 11: How you're doing, young lady, and you your husband is

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Speaker 11: doing a wonderful job. Okay, all right, I think you

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Speaker 11: less and beautiful holiday.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you do the same, Miss Nattie, take care of

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Speaker 4: all right. All right, that was Miss Natty Terrence. My

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Speaker 4: mission is done. I'm gonna have a good day at

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Speaker 4: home today. When I get home from the radio station, listen,

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Speaker 4: I expect dinner to be on the stove, hot, and

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Speaker 4: who knows whatever else later on this evening. This ought

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Speaker 4: to be Kevin Aldry's delight. When I get home, I

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Speaker 4: mission accomplished. I delivered on what I was asked to do.

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Speaker 4: My wife got to shout out from Miss Nettie. I

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Speaker 4: hope she's listening. I hope she got that. I'll be

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Speaker 4: home in about an hour and a half and I'm hungry,

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Speaker 4: and I'm hoping that it'll be piping hot with a

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Speaker 4: nice cold beverage, waiting on the trade table, in front

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Speaker 4: of the TV, with my favorite show on, maybe some

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Speaker 4: house shoes, a nice robe, maybe even draw a warm

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Speaker 4: shower ready for me when I get home. We'll see,

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Speaker 4: we'll see if all of that happens. I'll let you

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Speaker 4: all know the next time I feel in for Lincoln

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Speaker 4: what my reward was for the Miss Netty shout out today.

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Speaker 4: Y'all pray for me, all right, Keeping it going, keeping

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Speaker 4: the conversation going. We've been talking a lot about Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump today, But did you see this that Mike Pence

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Speaker 4: has gotten a lot of members of the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 4: And if you know anything about the Heritage Foundation, the

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Speaker 4: Heritage Foundation has been a long time think tank of

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Speaker 4: conservative politics. They, for lack of a better term, have

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Speaker 4: been the intellectual arm of the conservative movement and the

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Speaker 4: Republican Party for a long time. And it seems like

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Speaker 4: there's a split there now where Mike Pence has gotten

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Speaker 4: a lot of folks who are affiliated with the Heritage

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Speaker 4: Foundation to leave that organization, and it looks like there

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Speaker 4: could be a potentially a fight brewing within the party

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Speaker 4: post Donald Trump. So you've got your MAGA part of

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Speaker 4: the party, which it seems like JD. Vance. We talked

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Speaker 4: about him staking his claim or attempting or positioning himself

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Speaker 4: to stake his claim to that portion of the party,

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Speaker 4: and what he said over the weekend at the Turning

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Speaker 4: Point USA convention. You know, he's making a play for

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Speaker 4: the magabase, trying to follow in the same footsteps and

1145
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: the rude, crude behavior of Donald Trump, if you missed it,

1146
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Speaker 4: there were some people who were apparently critical of his wife,

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Speaker 4: and he told them to eat you know what. This

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Speaker 4: is what our presidential leader, our leaders, our president and

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Speaker 4: vice president. This is the kind of language that they use,

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Speaker 4: telling people to eat you know what. And that's become

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Speaker 4: acceptable now, Like could you imagine if Barack Obama had

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Speaker 4: said that to some of his haters what the response

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01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 4: would be in conservative world if Barack Obama had told

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Speaker 4: them to eat you know what because of the things

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Speaker 4: they had said about Michelle Obama and they said some stuff, Oh,

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Speaker 4: they said some stuff. About Michelle Obama, and JD. Vance

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Speaker 4: is getting a little bit of that because his wife

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Speaker 4: is of a certain ethnicity, so they're catching some of

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Speaker 4: that racial hate, you know, that the Obamas were subjected to,

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Speaker 4: And this is how he talks, and so he's talking

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Speaker 4: that way because he's trying to position himself to take

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Speaker 4: that place Trump's place in the MAGA movement. But I've

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Speaker 4: said this many times, you can't emulate and duplicate Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump because Donald Trump, for whatever reason, is able to

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Speaker 4: survive what would destroy any other politician. It defies explanation.

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Speaker 4: But you got a whole lot of other politicians out

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 4: there who try to be Donald Trump light or Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump clones, and it never quite works for them the

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Speaker 4: same way it does for him. And it's not gonna

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Speaker 4: work for JD. Vans because that's not really who JD

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Speaker 4: Vance is. You know, we got to go back and

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Speaker 4: remember how JD Vance talked about Donald Trump before he

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Speaker 4: decided to become an opportunist and try to lean into

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Speaker 4: at for his own political elevation. He once called Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump Hitler, said he was worse than a particular drug.

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Speaker 4: He spoke the truth about Donald Trump. But somewhere along

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Speaker 4: the lines he is somewhere along the way, he switched

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Speaker 4: up and suddenly he wanted you this. I think, what

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Speaker 4: is he a Yale? Is he a Yeale or Harvard graduated?

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Speaker 4: He graduated from one of those Ivy League schools. This

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Speaker 4: Ivy League graduate wants you to believe that, somehow or another,

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Speaker 4: those things he said about Donald Trump he said because

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Speaker 4: he was food by the media. This smart, intelligent author, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 4: Silicon Valley transplant wants you to believe that he was

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Speaker 4: dumb enough to be fooled by the media about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be interesting to see how things go.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people left Mike Pence for

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Speaker 4: dead politically. He was almost left for dead literally on

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Speaker 4: January sixth, if Donald Trump had had his way. But

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Speaker 4: a lot of folks thought that that Mike Pence was done.

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting with this move, is he trying to

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Speaker 4: position himself to be an alternative for what might ultimately

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Speaker 4: be a JD. Vance Maga run in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see what happens in Republican politics

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Speaker 4: over these next couple of years post Trumps as he

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Speaker 4: heads into and many think he's already in lame duck status.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the phone lines right now.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna hear from Mean and Mean wants to talk

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Speaker 4: about Elwood, Jones, Trump and religion. Mean, what's going on?

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Speaker 9: Well, good morning, brother al Rich.

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Speaker 4: Good? How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Extremely blessed over and above.

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Speaker 4: All? Right, let's let's let's cover your topics. Uh, and

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Speaker 4: what I'm what I might have to do. Mean, in fact,

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Speaker 4: this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put you

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Speaker 4: on whole, Meme because we're up against the break, And

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Speaker 4: when we come out of the break, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 4: you back on because I don't wanna. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to rush you through your call. So we're gonna take

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Speaker 4: a quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: talk to Meme and Uh, also al who's on hold?

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Speaker 4: And other calls. Twelve thirty w DBZ The Buzz of

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati their show Kevin Aldre sitting in for Lincoln until

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Speaker 4: twelve thirty Today. One of my favorite Christmas songs. This Christmas,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna entertain you all with my singing voice today. Uh,

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Speaker 4: maybe after a few more shows, I'll bless y'all with

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Speaker 4: the vocal tones of Reverend allreach. But y'all ain't ready

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Speaker 4: for that yet. You know, my pastor and my church

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Speaker 4: told me. He told me I'm not allowed to sing

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Speaker 4: it church. Not not because I got a good voice, Terrence,

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Speaker 4: but because he said that I should just never sing period.

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Speaker 4: That my voice is it is so bad. Now, this

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Speaker 4: is a pastor where the scripture says just make a

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Speaker 4: joyful noise. He told me not to even make a

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Speaker 4: joyful noise because my voice is that bad. All right, y'all,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna go back to the phones. We're gonna go

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Speaker 4: back to Meme, who we put on hold right before

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Speaker 4: the break. Meme. I wanted to make sure I gave

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Speaker 4: you time to get on all your points and I

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Speaker 4: rush you, brothers, So what do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 4: I see you got elwid Jones on the on the menu.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm laughing right now.

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Speaker 5: You gotta give me.

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Speaker 9: I'm a musician and you just have me laughing about

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Speaker 9: what your pastor is your pastor really tell you that?

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Speaker 4: He absolutely did. So we're good friends. He's he's a

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Speaker 4: good friend and a spiritual mentor. So we we have fun.

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Speaker 4: But he absolutely He absolutely told me that. He said

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Speaker 4: that I'm not allowed to sing in service, that my

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Speaker 4: voice is that bad.

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Speaker 9: But you use the word, you quote a scripture, make

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Speaker 9: a joyful noise, and did not say nothing about making

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Speaker 9: a melodious melody.

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Speaker 4: That was my point. That was my point.

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Speaker 9: Maybe your point is correct now, I know I wanted

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 9: to touch on brother l would but see you also

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Speaker 9: you had mentioned something about people not going to church

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Speaker 9: or people whatever early when we first came on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so there was a poll. Let me let

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Speaker 4: me set it for you and then you can respond

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 4: just in case this this helps. But I think it

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Speaker 4: was the Oh my goodness, I can't remember the polling agency. Now,

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Speaker 4: well that's the gallop I think did the did the

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Speaker 4: poll and pretty much said that most almost everybody believes

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Speaker 4: in God or has some form of spirituality. They believe

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Speaker 4: in heaven and hell, but half people sell them. Half

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Speaker 4: of people seldom go to church, and some never attend

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Speaker 4: at all, and only about twenty five percent go to

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Speaker 4: church service once a week. So that was that was

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Speaker 4: the table set on that. And so my question was

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Speaker 4: what the poll didn't reveal was why people had those attitudes.

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Speaker 4: So the question that I put out there was you know,

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Speaker 4: for those folks who believe but don't go to church service,

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Speaker 4: Why is that the case?

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Speaker 9: Well, I can only speak from personal experiences. Like my

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Speaker 9: name means, that's not what mom named me, that's what

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Speaker 9: the Lord named me. That's right out of PalmOne nineteen.

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Speaker 9: That's ninety seven through one oh four, if you want

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Speaker 9: to check into it. But Scripture also tells us that,

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Speaker 9: well two Timothy chapter three speaks volumes as to the

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Speaker 9: times we're in it. Most people are not looking at

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 9: the big picture. We're in the midst of prophecy. That's

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Speaker 9: why things are happening in the government, in the world

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Speaker 9: and here in the local area. There's been a lot

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 9: of corruption done that must be rectified. Brother Elwood Jones,

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Speaker 9: I told Lincoln when he called in on site, because

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01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 9: I really am a man a god, and I can

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Speaker 9: tell you something. I've yet to meet another meet, not

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Speaker 9: a clone. But what I mean is this, I meet

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Speaker 9: a lot of people that claim to believe. I've even

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Speaker 9: met like chaplains and pastors that don't know Scripture. I

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Speaker 9: once saw a senior who had looked like he had

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01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,480
Speaker 9: a lamb on his head. His hair was so white

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Speaker 9: and I'm thinking I'm going to yoke up to a

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Speaker 9: senior saint that can help me along the way, only

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Speaker 9: for him to tell me he hasn't been in the

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Speaker 9: word like he should. And I've been finding out that's

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Speaker 9: what a lot of people have. They haven't been going

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Speaker 9: by the word because they don't believe it. Because like yesterday,

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Speaker 9: when the person mentioned the King James, I think in

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Speaker 9: the Ethiopian Bible. Well, in my study, in research, I

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Speaker 9: found out that the King James Bible came straight out.

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Speaker 1: Of the Ethiopian title.

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Speaker 9: But because we don't have eighty some books, they think

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Speaker 9: that something's wrong. Well, it's just like with when I

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Speaker 9: heard him talk about race yesterday, I told him, can

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Speaker 9: this too before to have an effective life, sprinkle a

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Speaker 9: little truth on it. There's only one race to human race.

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Speaker 9: But because our creator loves variety, that's why you have

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Speaker 9: different peoples. And when it even comes down to his name,

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Speaker 9: there's different people, many tongues, languages and dialect. So of course,

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Speaker 9: if if you're living over here and I'm living over

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Speaker 9: there and we're speaking different languages, we're going to call

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Speaker 9: him something different. But because they havn't did what the

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Speaker 9: Lord said. What did he say? Heine, Ky, first, the kingdom.

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Speaker 4: And everything else will be given unto you.

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Speaker 9: Okay, yes, And I have found that that it is

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Speaker 9: true because I've been walking and talking with I'll just

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Speaker 9: put it this way. I've told people God is my father,

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Speaker 9: the Lord is my master, and the Holy Ghost is

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Speaker 9: my closest companion.

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Speaker 7: And this is true. And when you when you do.

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Speaker 9: What he said? And what first of all he said

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Speaker 9: it in the Lord's prayer, Thy Kingdom come, Thy will

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Speaker 9: be done. And then prior to his crucifixion, he said,

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Speaker 9: not my will, but thy will be done.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 9: Now, if every man, because we're the endangered species, an

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Speaker 9: not white, black, yellow, polka dot platinum man period since

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Speaker 9: the garden. But what we need to do is what

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Speaker 9: he said, because he also said.

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Speaker 3: In John.

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Speaker 9: Fifteen seven, if you abided me in my word, abide

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Speaker 9: in you see. But because people look at the most

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Speaker 9: best selling book of all times, number one, the problem

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Speaker 9: is they just look at it as another book. Now,

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Speaker 9: I didn't come up in the church per se, but

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Speaker 9: I'm on fire right now and I have been for

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Speaker 9: a while. Most folks don't believe. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 9: I have people calling me prophet.

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Speaker 3: Then I stop them.

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Speaker 9: I said, to my knowledge John the back, I will

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Speaker 9: still last noted prophet. But Joel too does say that

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Speaker 9: in the latter days your sons and daughters will prophesie,

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Speaker 9: and I have prophesied. Now go back to brother Jones.

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Speaker 9: This thing had to happen with him. He's been innocent

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Speaker 9: all the time. Joe Dieters is the snake, a demonic snake.

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Speaker 2: The area we.

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Speaker 9: Live in, though it is felt with the sea, we

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Speaker 9: got double sin. But by me being born and raised here,

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Speaker 9: I have even suffered. I once set face and life

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Speaker 9: in the penitentiary and was innocent. But I had a

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Speaker 9: visitation from on high. And that's why I'm on fire today.

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Speaker 9: It happened to me in seventy eight. I can't go

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Speaker 9: through all of that, but because I'm trying to touch

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Speaker 9: the bases here, the Trump thing real quick, men, It's

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Speaker 9: all about prophecy. Every nation, kingdom, peoples or whatever that

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Speaker 9: has ever claimed world domination has been brought to the dust.

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Speaker 9: The biggest problem is the people have been leaving out

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Speaker 9: the Word of God. And that's what it is. And

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Speaker 9: there's even a scripture that I've never heard preached and

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Speaker 9: I understand why because the Lord himself said over there

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Speaker 9: in John fourteen twenty six, we're supposed to be taught

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Speaker 9: by the Holy Ghost, all right, period, And that's what

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Speaker 9: the problem is. People better get real and right with God.

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Speaker 9: And as far as Cincinnati goes, there's a story. And

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Speaker 9: since you work with the inquiry.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir name you got ten seconds because I got

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Speaker 4: to move on.

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Speaker 1: Oay.

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Speaker 9: Everything on the waterfront that was a woman by the

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Speaker 9: name of Sarah Jamee Combs when she begged them to

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Speaker 9: let them stay down in the canyon the real west End,

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Speaker 9: and they said you have no, but she said, why

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Speaker 9: don't you use that property down on the riverfront for

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Speaker 9: your stadiums and parks. Curtis Puller's had this news for

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Speaker 9: over twenty years. Jam Michelle Kearney has it now. But

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Speaker 9: this is going to blow up Cincinnati because everything on

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Speaker 9: that front was a colored ladies idea when they were

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Speaker 9: running them up out of the West End. But that

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Speaker 9: never made news, but it did today, all right. Her

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Speaker 9: name was Sarah Jaye Comes and you could see a

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Speaker 9: picture of her down at the Fendly Market all right

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Speaker 9: on the wall of the people that will run up

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Speaker 9: out of there.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, mim, I gotta go. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Oh you hear from me because I'm also a PEPONNK all star.

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Speaker 4: All Right, all right, I'm working on Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 4: All Right, that was mean. We're gonna take a quick

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Speaker 4: break and we're gonna pull it into the station with

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Speaker 4: the callers. We got al we got Rick Junior, we

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Speaker 4: got Langston and Tony. All on hold, we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: to all of you in the final thirty minutes of

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Speaker 4: The Lincoln Ware Show twelve thirty. W DBZ, your talk station,

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Speaker 4: the buzz of Cincinnati.