1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The only thing, the only thing missing. I'll be nitpicky. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: I'll admit it. I'll admit I'm being nitpicky. It's my nature. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: The only thing missing right now from this being absolute perfection. 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: If you've been to the Louver in Paris and you 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: go to see the Mona Lisa, you wait in line, 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: they've got these The serpent line goes all the way through, 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm about to see the Mona Lisa, 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: the most famous work of art in the history of 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: the world, arguably the Mona Lisa. And then you go 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: and you finally get there, and you walk and it's 11 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: behind all kinds of rope, and you look at it 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, that looks like it's the size of 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: a postage stamp. And the only thing that you nitpick 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: about it is this is supposed to be art perfection, 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: but you're like, it'd be kind of cooler if it 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: was a little bit bigger. There's an imperfection you can 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: find in it. Michelangelo's David, which is the most that 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: is actually in terms of sculpture, it is the definition 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: of perfection. Michelangelo's David is perfection essentially because when it 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: was constructed, if you will, by Michelangelo. They had a 21 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: huge block of marble that they wanted to do a 22 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: statue that would stand atop the Dome of Florence, Italy, 23 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: atop the cathedral, and they had the perfect marble in 24 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: terms of the purity of marble. But the purity of 25 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: the marble was such that the poorous nature of it 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: made it almost impossible to sculpt, because every sculptor that 27 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: they attempted to hire said, if I chisel on that, 28 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: it's going to immediately crumble because the radiance of the 29 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: marble is from the poorest nature of it. And the 30 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: one sculptor, who I believe was twenty seven at the time, 31 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I could be wrong in that was Michelangelo that said 32 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: I can do it. He was basically Jeff Spaccoli. He said, 33 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: my old man's the TV repairman. He's got the ultimate 34 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: set of tools. I can do it. And so he 35 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: went behind a curtain for basically four years. And then 36 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: on the day that they unveiled Michelangelo's David to go 37 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: atop the dome of the cathedral, the Duomo as they 38 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: call it, they said, that is so perfect that we're 39 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: just going to leave it here on the ground level 40 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: because everyone needs to admire it. It is perfection. The 41 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Final Four in Indianapolis is Michelangelo's David or the Mona Lisa. 42 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: It is perfection with the exception of one thing. In 43 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: the case of the Mona Lisa, it's that it's a 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: little too small, And in the case of michael Angelo's David, 45 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: it's the fact that it couldn't be placed on top 46 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: of the dome because it was so perfect, but there 47 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: was a slight imperfection that could be found by somebody 48 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: if they were to critique. The only thing right now 49 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: from stopping this being the absolute beauty of art for 50 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: the Final Four and the sport world, sports world to 51 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: recognize there's nowhere better than Indianapolis to do it is 52 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: the fact that I kind of wish it was a 53 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: little more sunny. Outside of that, I welcome you today, 54 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: especially if you're from out of town and you stumbled 55 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: upon this radio show, to this the best city that 56 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: there is to put on these events, and the Final 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Four is here. The University of Connecticut Huskies, the team 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: that has been as dominant as anybody in the last 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: handful of years in college basketball, and yes, a relative 60 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Johnny Come lately in the grand scheme of things, that 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: has become a Tier one program led by an incredible 62 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: shot by the reigning Indianna mister Basketball, who hails from Greenfield, Indiana, 63 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: just some twenty miles directly east of Indianapolis, taking on 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the Illinois fighting Alliini, the neighboring state immediately to the west. 65 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: The Alliani, who have two Indiana players on their roster 66 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: and a coach that is a defensive minded, tough natured 67 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: coach but at the same time very likable, that went 68 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: out and found players from all areas of the globe 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: that can shoot the basketball, including the son of a 70 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: former pacer, Pega Steyakovic. The University of Illinois, who's been 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: as consistently strong as any probably ten different programs this 72 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: year in college basketball. The University of Michigan, led by 73 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Dusty May grew up in Green County, New JMV. From 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: the time that they were young manager at Indiana circuitous 75 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: route to Land and Arbor with constant whispers as to 76 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: whether or not he would return back to Bloomington. But 77 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: everything he needs is right there with the Mason Blue 78 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: and may have the best team in college basketball and 79 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: they've roared their way into the Final four by resoundingly 80 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: getting past Tennessee and they take on, of course, in 81 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: all of that, the Arizona Wildcats, a team that probably 82 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: has been as a program as successful as anybody in 83 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: college basketball over the last quarter century. To not make 84 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: a Final four, people would be stunned when you hear 85 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: because you just assume that feels like they're in the 86 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: Final four every five years. No, they're like a one 87 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: seed or they are twenty eight and four every year, 88 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: and then they always make a deep run, but they 89 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: don't get necessarily this point. And here they have on 90 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: their staff a former Indiana mister Basketball who himself took 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Arizona to the Final four, in Jason Gardner, and they 92 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: got here by way of knocking out one of the 93 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: favorite teams of the area and Purdue. It's a fabulous 94 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: final four. It's exciting matchups, it's unpredictable as to who 95 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: might win it. But more so it is special because 96 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: it's yet another installment of Indianapolis putting on this event. 97 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: As I'm speaking right now, Illinois is practicing at Lucas 98 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: Oil Stadium, and that place looks like the Denver Broncos 99 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: are here. I haven't seen that much orange since Peyton 100 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Manning came back with the Broncos. I saw a lot 101 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: of orange in the Hoosier Dome when Illinois came through 102 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: in eighty nine as the number one seed. Many people 103 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: thought it should have been Indiana that year because they 104 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: won the Big Ten. But Illinois swept Indiana. They got 105 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the number one seed. They were at the Hoosier Dome 106 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: along with ball State and that in the first rounds 107 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: that took place in eighty nine. But now Illinois's back 108 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: and they're practicing right now, and that's one of the 109 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: great traditions of the Final Four, the practice where the 110 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: fans get to go down and watch it and see it, 111 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: and it is so special. It is so special as 112 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: a fan of your program to watch the public practice 113 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: and know the stage they're on and soak it all 114 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: in and feel that energy in the building. And it's 115 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: special as a native of whatever city you're in to 116 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: know that the sports world all eyes are on it 117 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: and that people in Seattle, Washington, and people in Alpaso, Texas, 118 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and people in Gainesville, Florida, and people in Fredericksburg, Maryland, 119 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: and people in loud in New Hampshire. We'll watch this 120 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: weekend and wish they were in Indianapolis, and it's pretty 121 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: cool now. That is not to say that if you 122 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: come down to enjoy all of the festivities and the environment, 123 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: that you're not going to have some obstruction getting down here, 124 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: because there and you can see it and you can 125 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: feel it. Eddie Garrison this morning called me to say 126 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: when are you leaving to come into work? And I 127 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: said probably in like five minutes. And he said, well, 128 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: let me tell you what way do you come? Well, 129 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I come from the north down Pennsylvania. If you're coming 130 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: down Pennsylvania from the north to go to downtown Indianapolis, 131 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: you get about as far as eleventh Street, actually more 132 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: like ninth, just. 133 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 2: Before what's that again, Eddie? Then you got a see 134 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: you like that, don't you. I've never said I didn't 135 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: like that one. 136 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: They do have it blocked off, and that's because of 137 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: concerts taking place tonight. Now tonight, here are the concerts. 138 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I get these right. I know twenty one 139 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: pilots right, that's the headliner. They're stressed out right, aren't 140 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: they the stressed out folk? Yes? They are. Cashi is 141 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: right before them, and who's the opener? I don't know. 142 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I got a Joseph Vallance. Did I say that? Right? 143 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: Sure? 144 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: But twenty one pilots tonight, Everything getting underway at four 145 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: point thirty. This is at the American Legion Mall, which 146 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: is where we are located. By the way, our new 147 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: location is just to the north of the Downtown Library. 148 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Just to the south of the Library, of course, is 149 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: the American Legion Mall that goes down to the Indiana 150 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: War Memorial, which is one of the most fabulous buildings 151 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: anywhere in this country. And if you've never gone into 152 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the shrine room inside the War Memorial, plan on doing 153 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: it sooner rather than later. But you're not gonna be 154 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: able to do so this weekend because it's going to 155 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: be surrounded by a concert stage concerts tonight tomorrow and 156 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: Sunday tomorrow Zach Brown Band eight ten These are free concerts, 157 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: and then Sunday Post beloone eight fifteen, massive shows. Massive shows. 158 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: And of course don't get confused with the fact. 159 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: Don't forget Megan Maroney either. She is on stage before post. 160 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: Malone on Sunday. Right, I'm a little o'clock I'm a 161 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: little curious of this. So they have the Zach Brown 162 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: band is actually playing while games are going on. I 163 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: guess so because the first semi final will be getting underway. 164 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: What six o'clock and then are six o' nine and 165 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: nine to nine are the two start times? Right? Uh? 166 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Six nine and nine which will be nine oh nine? Yeah? Watch, 167 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: So ton to get to time to talk about today. 168 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes into the Final Four and 169 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: putting it on, and I got to thinking about this 170 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: last night. There's a really good article right now. I 171 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: was driving down to Alabama on Friday so we could 172 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: go tonight, and I got a message from the Star 173 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: that Dana Huntinger benbo was doing an article on the 174 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: history of the Final Four in Indianapolis and wanted to 175 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: know if she could ask me a couple questions about it. 176 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: And I was I was very you know, honestly, like 177 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I was kind of honored that they would call and 178 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: ask me of that. It reminds me sometimes that I've 179 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: simply lived here a long time. But a really good 180 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: article by Danna right now that chronicles all of the 181 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: different Final Fours that have taken place in this town 182 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: in the history of it, because and I made mention 183 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: of this in that article, I think the same of 184 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: the Indy five hundred. The reason I love the Indy 185 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: five hundred and the reason all of you I would 186 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: hope love the Final Four, especially when it's in Indianapolis. 187 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: There are great moments in history of the Final Four. 188 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: The Final Four is the ultimate showcase of sporting event 189 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: with and will that all change at some point? Is 190 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: NIL going to disrupt and interrupt that? Maybe We talked 191 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: to Steve Alford yesterday about it when he talked about 192 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: how maybe the NCAA eventually goes to a class system 193 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: or a variation thereof. That sounds a little absurd right now, 194 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: but who knows. Nobody ever thought we'd be at this 195 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: point in terms of the name, image likeness, and with 196 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: all of the wind of change in college basketball, with 197 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: all of the fluidity of transfer portal and NIL and 198 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: prioritizing players that are like if you look at Illinois 199 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: transfer players versus even though Illinois has a very special 200 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: true freshman versus getting a team allah the old Fab 201 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: five system of five young players and gelling them together. 202 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: The different the variations now of college basketball in the 203 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: wind of change that is taking place with college basketball. 204 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: The one thing that is not at this point interrupted 205 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: is the energy and the joy that people in this 206 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: country get from their NCAA brackets, from the randomness of 207 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: the tournament, from the great finishes, and from the stage 208 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: of the Final four, and so much that goes into that. 209 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: I started thinking about the great games and moments that 210 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: have taken place here, and when I think about the 211 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: indy five hundred and the Final Four when it's in Indianapolis, 212 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: those two events to me are so special, maybe nostalgically so, 213 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: but they're so special to me because I always go 214 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: into it, just like I do right now, with the 215 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: expectation and the excitement over the fact that it is 216 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: quite possible that we are on the doorstep of seeing 217 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: something that we will be talking about for thirty to 218 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: forty years. And that's special, that's cool. The ninety one 219 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: Final four, I know, the eighty Final four, I'm wearing 220 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: a T shirt for it right now, was the first 221 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: Final four in Indianapolis, but that was right on the 222 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: heels of the seventy nine Magic Versus Bird game. So 223 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the Final Four, in terms of being a social and 224 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: cultural phenomenon, was in its infancy. But by ninety one, 225 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: when it had moved into the Dome and you had 226 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: undefeated UNLV arriving in town, I could still tell you 227 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: they're starting five. That team was loaded, George Ackles, Stacey Augman, 228 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Larry Johnson, Anderson Hunt, Greg Anthony. They were loaded, and 229 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: they were undefeated. And they practiced at North Central High 230 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: School and Jerry Tarkanian was their head coach, and we 231 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: got to watch the practice, and Larry Johnson asked me 232 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: if I could hold on to his sony discmand while 233 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: they practiced, and I did, and of course midway through 234 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: the practice, my curiosity got the best of me. The 235 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: reigning college player of the year, the future number one 236 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA draft, and I'm sitting there holding his 237 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: sony Discman, and of course, being somebody who grew up 238 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: in Bob Knights, Indiana, I was convinced that I was 239 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: holding before me the biggest NCAA violation, because I just 240 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: assumed that some booster bought it for him, because at 241 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, it was quite the richest to have 242 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: a sony Discman. But he couldn't have been nicer U 243 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: and LV couldn't have been better to us, the basketball, 244 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the people involved in the basketball program at North Central. 245 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: It was awesome. But I popped open the CD because 246 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: I had to know what CD he was listening to, 247 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: and over the course of the day, even though I've 248 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: told the story many times, and we'll test his memory, 249 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: We'll see if Eddie can guess what Grandmama was listening 250 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to on CD in the nineteen ninety one Final four. 251 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: But mo no, if you can guess, I'm telling you, 252 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: I will be highly impressed. I might bring you some 253 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Jamaica patties on Monday if you get the answer correct. 254 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: But the long winded point I'm making that Final four, 255 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Vegas gets shocked by Duke, who they'd beaten by thirty 256 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: plus the year before in Denver, And it happened right 257 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis, and Mike Skryzhsky gets his first and 258 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: the national championship game. Duke opens their scoring with Grant 259 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Hill with one of the most unbelievable alleops you'll ever see. 260 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: And in ninety seven, Dean Smith coaches his final game 261 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: in college basketball, a legendary, iconic career, and it happens 262 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and Tom Izzo finally breaks through and gets 263 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: a national championship for Michigan State on the back of 264 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: mat Teen Cleeves, who was as good a point guard 265 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: as you could find in college basketball at that time. 266 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: And North Carolina returns, but now not with Dean Smith, 267 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: but with one of his right hand men, and Bill 268 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Guthridge right here in Indianapolis and Florida back to back titles, 269 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: one of them here in Indianapolis, and Gordon Hayward and 270 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: the shot that almost went in and the screen by 271 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Matt Howard. There are great events that take place, and 272 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: there are potentially great events that are going to take 273 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: place this weekend that we'll be talking about for forty years. 274 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: But I got to thinking about the history of not 275 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: just that, but the regionals as well, and I thought 276 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: about when Kevin Ware of Louisville, and it was a 277 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: horrific visual when Kevin Ware of Louisville and the NCAA 278 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Regionals compound fractured his leg, meaning it broke in a 279 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: non natural breaking point and then penetrated through the skin 280 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: and guys on the bench are weeping as they see it, 281 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: and it was horrific, and yet there were people on 282 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: scene for him seemingly immediately including for and I can't 283 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: I think they were playing Michigan State, but including the 284 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: opposing trainer and trainers that were there basically waiting in 285 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: the wings in the moment of something like that. And 286 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: then I began to think about the behind the scenes 287 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: people that go into putting on an event like this. 288 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: We talked to Julia our Lash earlier this week about 289 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: the logistics of putting like this on. So putting something 290 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: like this on Indianapolis does it better than anybody. And 291 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: Ralph Reef was the director of putting together those staffs 292 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: for multiple final and when it comes to player safety, 293 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: player health, player injury, all of those things, there is 294 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: no team in that. In other words, there's no it's 295 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: all team, is what I'm getting at. You know, you're 296 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: not working for a specified team. You're the trainer for 297 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Illinois and something terrible happens right in front of you. 298 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: We had an official, remember a couple of years ago 299 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: in the Final four, that collapsed on the floor. Fortunately 300 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: he was okay. But when that happens, you don't say like, oh, okay, well, 301 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm the Illinois trainer and that's a Connecticut kid. No. 302 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: That the camaraderie that goes into that, but also the 303 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: support staff that is here on hand from Indianapolis ready 304 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: to act. And I thought about what all must go 305 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: into that and how big a task that must be. 306 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: And so Ralph's going to join us on the program today. 307 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: Also yesterday we talked about the fact that Notre Dame 308 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: has a major player in the transfer portal. Did you 309 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: see the news last night, Jake? 310 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: There was another former Indiana high school basketball player in 311 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: the transfer portal. 312 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Would that be Are you talking about a mister basketball 313 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: by chance? 314 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: I think so? 315 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: Kansas Ye Floria Badunga. Yep. Now Flori Badunga. He is 316 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: entering his name into the NBA Draft and the portal 317 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: this is where we are headed. But Michael Shrewsbury, the 318 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: head basketball coach at Notredame, going to join us at 319 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: two o'clock today. We can talk about that and what 320 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: it means, you know, for a Notre Dame. For example, 321 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Francisco helped feel good good for the heart Friday coming 322 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: up at two thirty as well the transfer portal, Eddie, 323 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: this is and this is one of the things that 324 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask Michael Shrewsbury about. There are in 325 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: the movie Hoosiers remember when he says to Norman Dale, 326 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: there's two kinds of crazy. One is a that goes 327 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: out and barks at the moon, and the other is 328 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: somebody that does it in my backyard. And the second 329 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: one I kind of got to deal with. I'm paraphrasing. 330 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: When it comes to the transfer portal. There are two 331 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: kinds of transfer portal candidates, those that legitimately want out 332 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: and are seeking greener pastor elsewhere, and the second, which 333 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: is the one you kind of got to deal with, 334 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: which is the one that really doesn't have any interest 335 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: in leaving, but he is seeing what the market value 336 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: is for himself and also trying to squeeze a little 337 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: bit more out of the roster where he currently sits. 338 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: And in Bedunga's case, you throw your name into the draft. 339 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: If you don't like where you're slotted, you go ahead 340 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: and stay in college. And then you basically make that 341 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: threat to Kansas to see if they'll blink and say, 342 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know what, here's an extra two hundred grand, 343 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: here's an extra five hundred grand, whatever it may be. 344 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what happened last year a little bit Jake, 345 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: because you have to remember he went into. 346 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: The portal correct, and then stayed right. 347 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 348 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: Now, the you know, you get a little bit of 349 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: don or fatigue with that. I mean, there's a lot 350 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: that goes into that, but I understand it from the 351 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: player standpoint. I also saw that there was one report 352 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: that said that the Big Ten now that it has 353 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: anticipated going into the transfer portal era here and the 354 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: basically free agency. We're basically in free agency. And there 355 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: was one report that said that it's expected that it 356 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: would cost you in the Big ten right now somewhere 357 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: between ten and twelve million for your roster. Well, Illinois 358 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: in the final four, and I think there's was six right, 359 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: But again, it's all about look at the NBA, the NFL, 360 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: whatever it be, It's about having the wherewithal to understand 361 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: and building your roster where you want to spend money. 362 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Whether you believe that big dollar, big talent automatically equates 363 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: to do the five best players get to the final 364 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: four or the five guys that play together the best. 365 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: In Illinois case, veteran players that may not play, may 366 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: not have played with one another for a long time, 367 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: but they understand how to play the game because they're 368 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: veteran players. A lot that goes into all of that. 369 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: Taylor Tannebaum might join us on the program as well. 370 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: She was on the call for the NIT semi finals 371 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: taking place last night. Championship of that will be on 372 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Sunday at Gamebridge Field House. And you know, Eddie, I 373 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: was just thinking, as I'm looking out in our parking lot, 374 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: because people are arriving for the concert and they're paying 375 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: to parking lot, we should go out and just bring 376 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: some of these people on, find out where they're from? 377 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: Where are you from? 378 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: On the street interviews? 379 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? 380 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Is Terry Stacy around? I'm sure she would do that. 381 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: Why not? Where are you from? Who you're rooting for? 382 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Are you just here for the concert? 383 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Although I don't think we're starting to sell the lot 384 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 2: until five o'clock, so I don't know. 385 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: I just saw four people getting out of a truck 386 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: with cowboy hats on. 387 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yee haul. 388 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: They look like they're the fanny packs by the way, Jake, 389 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: and twenty minutes. 390 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: If you're listening to us on your phone, in your 391 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: or in your car or whatever, you don't have anything 392 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: to do. 393 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Starting in twenty minutes, if you're listening to us and 394 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: you don't have anything to do. 395 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Final four fan Fest we begin. We wait tickets for those. 396 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: We still have a couple more to give away today 397 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: at twelve forty five for an hour, Trey Kaufman Rinn 398 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: will be doing a meet and greet in signing outside 399 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: of Lucas Oil Stadium by Final four fi Infest. 400 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: If you don't have anything to do, that's why you're 401 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: listening to this show, right, exactly? If Eddie. Here's the thing, 402 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that we need to say some sort 403 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: of a disclaimer that if you're listening to this show 404 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Comma and don't have anything to do, I think the 405 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: first makes it very obvious that the second is true. 406 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: That's pretty finny. 407 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: The only reason anybody's listening to this show is because 408 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: clearly they don't have anything else to do, right, So. 409 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, that's probably accurate. 410 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Hey what do you do on Friday? Send a quarrying company? 411 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: Why? 412 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Because I had absolutely nothing else to do? Yep, that 413 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: would be the reason. Yeah, I get it. I totally 414 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: understand that, and I think all forty one of our 415 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: female listeners would agree with that as well. Nothing else 416 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: to do? You at work? Yes? What are you doing 417 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: at work. I'm listening to the quarry company. Why well, 418 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: Al finished the big mcgiver reports, and so I got 419 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: nothing else to do. I'm just sitting at my desk 420 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: checking in right, Yeah, Cindy finished the big spreadsheet for 421 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the accounting meeting we got on Monday, and they think 422 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: that I'm still working on it. I got nothing else 423 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: to do, so I'm just going to listen to this 424 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: dog and pony show of this guy rambling on about 425 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: the final four in the concerts and people parking in 426 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: the parking lot wearing cowboy hats. I think if you're 427 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: wearing a fanny pack walking around, it's pretty apparent you're 428 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: here for a tourist attraction. Right, Have you ever worn 429 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: a fanny pack? Eddie? I don't think I have. They 430 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: were all the rage in the mid eighties. Izod came 431 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: out with does anybody else remember this? And actually, in hindsight, 432 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: it was brilliant. It was brilliant and why did this 433 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: go away? Because it was both fashionable and sensible. Does 434 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: anyone else remember the craze? I'm gonna say from nineteen 435 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: eighty three to nineteen eighty five, the ISOD Windbreaker rain jacket, 436 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: phase is then morphed into a Fannie pack. Yeah. Perfect, 437 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean perfect. I had a navy blue one, perfectly sufficient, 438 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: perfectly efficient, fashionable. I mean most of what I wear 439 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: is fashionable. Anybody I wear something, people go that looks great, Well, 440 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: thank you. I could probably walk around right now in 441 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: some parachute pants and a Coca Cola shirt. People be like, 442 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: that looks good. Yeah, I know. But either way, plenty 443 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: to talk about in the world of college basketball today. 444 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: We'll get into some of the NBA discussion as well. 445 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Pacers in Charlotte tonight taking on the Hornets. That is 446 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: a seven o'clock game, six point thirty pre tip and 447 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: or pregame, and then one of the fun things about 448 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: the preach nice. One of the fun things about this 449 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, because he is manning the controls for that 450 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: broadcast tonight, and because this is we are kind of 451 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: like we are literally we are literally right now in 452 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: the nucleus of the cell membrane that is final four activity. 453 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: So as a result, Eddie has a cot here and 454 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: is sleeping in this building for three days. That's right, 455 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: because they told you when you park today, you can't 456 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: leave for three days. 457 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, Pacers tonight, Indiana Sports Talk Tomorrow night 458 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: with Bob Lovell, and then Sunday Pacers at six five 459 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: point thirty pre game. Yeah, so there's on Easter Sunday. Yeah, 460 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on there, right, there is there is. 461 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Indeed when we come back, there is some NFL discussion 462 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: to be had. We got into a little of it yesterday, 463 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: but I want to get more into it today as 464 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: it really lates to we talk about the portal and 465 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: NIL from the basketball standpoint of things, what about pro 466 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: day and evolution of how that all works for a 467 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: program on the college side of things and what we're 468 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: witnessing before us. I will get into that and elaborate 469 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: other side. And then again Ralph Reef joining us about 470 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: forty minutes from now on this final four Friday edition, 471 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: A Quirying Company on the Fan. Twenty one pilots will 472 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: be on stage tonight, one of the free concerts. Do 473 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: we know what the weather's supposed to be? 474 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: It's Indiana, Jake, Do we ever know what the webine? 475 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: That's why I'm stressed out about it, right. 476 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: Cloudy all day. There's a chance of rain at eight 477 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: o'clock tonight, but that's not it. 478 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: The fellow that parked his truck out here with the 479 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: cowboy hat on, and I think he's with his wife 480 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: and kids. He's now walked back to his car three 481 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: times in the parking lot. I think there. I think 482 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: these are early goers for the big twenty one Pilots show. 483 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: He's pacing in anticipation of the concerts. As to take 484 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: we should start interviewing these folks. Where are you from, 485 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: who you're rooting for? Do you think there are people here? 486 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: Before we get into the college pro day conversation, do 487 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: you think there are people here? I don't know that 488 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: you get this as much, but do you think there 489 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: are and it would be a higher percentage per due, 490 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: but do you think there are, say Duke or Florida 491 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: fans here who bought tickets to the Final four in 492 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: full anticipation of being here, and now they're like, well, 493 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: I have the tickets. 494 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: I would say Duke, yes, I don't know about Florida, Like, 495 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: are you waiting until they're getting close closer to the 496 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: Final four to purchase your tickets and flights or whatever 497 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: if you wanted to go that route or your hotel. 498 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm seeing some pictures, Chick, I don't 499 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: know what hotel or hotel tells us is it these 500 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: are at but there are apparently final four spreadsheets on 501 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: the bed not spreadsheets but like spreads or whatever. Like 502 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: there's pillowcasing, covers, blankets. 503 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: Well that's pretty cool. I know I have my guests. 504 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean the JW Marriott hosted all sixty eight teams 505 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: at one time. I mean, think about this, you have 506 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Division two, Division three n T bandfriend, that is four 507 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: teams everywhere. Yeah the bedspread ye, thank you. That's pretty cool. 508 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean I would imagine that's got to be the Conrad, 509 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: right Conrad or the JW. 510 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: Or the JW. 511 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those two. But either way, exciting weekend, 512 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: no question about it. The as I've read more about 513 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: the NFL Pro Days, two things that came out of that, 514 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: in particular from Indiana's standpoint, and it is still surreal 515 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: to me, undoubtedly to think about the fact that Indiana football, 516 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: to quote the great Brian Jacobson, it is still surreal, 517 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: but it's real. When I was in Alabama last weekend 518 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: for the IndyCar Race and people coming up to me 519 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: wearing their role tide gear or Auburn, because in Birmingham 520 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you kind of get a little both. And all the 521 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: conversation was about Alabama football, Auburn football, Alabama football, Auburn football, 522 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: and they're like now and yet I mean, one guy said, 523 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: he goes that Indiana team might be the best team 524 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: I've seen ever. And I've watched Alabama football since Bear Bryant. 525 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: They were so clinical. And I watched a Kurt Signetty 526 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: press conference where he was talking about and I one 527 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: of our colleagues pointed this out to me, and it's 528 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: totally true. For every time I've watched Kurt Signetti talk, 529 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure out for two years who 530 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: he talks like. For two years, I've tried to figure 531 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: out who it reminds me of linguistically when he speaks, 532 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: and it is Barney Fife. When Kurt Signetti stands back 533 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: and kind of does that lean and he's about to 534 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: say something that's like a little bit, you know, kind 535 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: of sixteen and oh, you know, I mean, can't really 536 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: do any better? You win sixteen and you got the zero, 537 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: and you know the zero. You can't improve on that sixteen? 538 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: You means you played sixteen, You won sixteen. It's like 539 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: Barney Fife when he's you know, pushing his chest out 540 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about being the sheriff. With the exception 541 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: of the fact that Signetti is completely legit and clearly 542 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: has like the bullet in the chamber right time because 543 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: he's totally locked in, but when he has been when 544 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: he was talking about and the spring practice for Indiana 545 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 1: was obviously coinciding really with the Pro Day, and the 546 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: big star of the Pro Day for Indiana was DiAngelo Pons. 547 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: I know that Mendoza solidified himself as the camp Miss 548 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: number one overall pick, but DiAngelo Pons looked like an 549 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Adonnas out there and he is. He ran with blazing 550 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: speed and then you look at the way that he 551 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: anticipated the Oregon play, the coverage that he provided. He 552 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: was a difference maker for them defensively, and I think 553 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: his stock probably rose the most through this Pro Day, 554 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: which is by design by Kurt Signetti. Of this is 555 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: not just an opportunity for these guys to show what 556 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: they can do for the NFL. This is a showcase 557 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 1: for Indiana football. And so we we are going to 558 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: do this so that players it's all and every school 559 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: does it, don't get me wrong, but when you can 560 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: have twenty plus guys out there and the majority of 561 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain schools that have a pro 562 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: day and you're like, really, I mean, there's one guy 563 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: here that might be a seventh rounder. When you have 564 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: twenty plus guys and they can go anywhere, you know, 565 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: many of them second third, you know, first or second 566 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: day guys. Recruits notice that. People notice that. But while 567 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: the pro day was going on in DiAngelo Ponds was 568 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: the real star. I then listened to Kurtz Signetti talking 569 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: about getting set for next year, and one of the 570 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: things he said was, this is the time of year 571 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: where I'm beginning to inventory to learn every player in 572 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: what button to push. And I found that to be 573 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: fascinating because I've talked to people that have played for 574 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: great coaches, and I've talked to great coaches before about 575 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: the fact that I think one of the biggest challenges 576 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: in leading people is understanding the versatility under which people 577 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: need to be led. Some people react and are motivated 578 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: by screaming in their face. Some people react and are 579 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: motivated by constant pats on the back. Some people react 580 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: and are motivated by no one saying a word to 581 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: them and them being forced to just kind of figure 582 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: it out on their own and learning from that. And 583 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: it's a coach's job to understand the different buttons to 584 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: push and the different ways that a player reacts. And 585 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: if you look at the Indiana team from a year ago, 586 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: it is very apparent. It felt like every single player 587 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: on that field was literally almost like a robot who 588 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: has had been perfectly timed to unwind and be let 589 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: go right when it was needed. Every one of them. 590 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: Everyone knew their specific role, Everyone knew exactly what it 591 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: was that they needed to do, when they needed to 592 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: do it, and how they needed to do it. And 593 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: I think so much of that goes back to the coaching, 594 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: which led me to thinking about and the epiphany of 595 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: the fact that di'angelo Ponds was the real star amongst 596 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: the prode you heard Bob Kravitz say yesterday with us 597 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: as well, and yet he was a JMU guy, Elijah Surratt, 598 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: a James Madison guy, transfer guys in guys that started 599 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: at a non Division I school, and yet they were 600 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: able to come with Kurt Signetti and because they bought 601 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: in that much to what it is that he's doing 602 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: and elevate themsel to the point where they're the talk 603 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: of the Pro day. And when Signetti is looking right 604 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: now at spring practice, I am fascinated to see and 605 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: we won't know for certain, but I'm fascinated to see 606 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: how a new group that does not have all those 607 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: Jami transfers to say look now, now he has a 608 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: title to point to and say, you better buy in. 609 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: But sometimes guys just want to look at the leaders 610 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: and say, what am I getting into here? And you 611 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: had a group of players, even though Signetti was only 612 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: in his second year at Indiana, and even though Mendoza 613 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: was in his first. Mendoza was a mature player, but 614 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: you had a group of players like the Angelo Pons 615 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: who had gone through that system and given him multiple 616 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: years of figuring out what buttons to push and when 617 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: to push them. And now that you reload with a 618 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: new quarterback, a new number one receiver, do you have 619 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: the time to figure out and learn exactly which buttons 620 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: it is and when? And my answer would be yes, 621 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: I would assume he does, because the guy can flat coach. 622 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: But it's one of the things that is the most 623 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: intriguing to me about the upcoming season, not their schedule, 624 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: not the pressure of defending national champions but rather how 625 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: much buy in is there and has Signetti had enough 626 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: time with transfer portal guys to figure out exactly when, 627 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: where and how on the button pushing the Of course, 628 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: complication of all of this comes into the fact that 629 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: whenever you get portal guys transfer guys, you don't know 630 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: exactly who and what you're getting at all times. And 631 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: that is true as well in college basketball. And Eddie 632 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: just mentioned there are a couple of huge names in 633 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: the portal and what can that mean not just for 634 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: the game, for the future of it, but in addition 635 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: to that, locally speaking, those that may bounce back home. 636 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: We'll explain next. Several people and I've told the story 637 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: many a time, one of my favorite stories. Actually, I've 638 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: had weird stuff happen to me. I'm in the first 639 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: admitted I've got this like Forrest Gump streak of luck 640 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: that happens to me. But several people have asked or 641 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: guessed what CD it was that Larry Johnson was listening 642 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: to at the ninety one Final four, and the most 643 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: common guests amongst people my age that know of the 644 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: music of the era. The most common guest that people 645 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: give is ghetto boys, because Larry Johnson was a native 646 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: of Dallas. Ghetto boys were from Houston. Larry Johnson playing 647 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: for UNLV and again ninety one Final four. I'm leaving 648 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: school on this day. It was Friday, leaving school and 649 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: we're walking down the hallway and they're putting up newspaper 650 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: over the windows of the basketball of the gym. We're like, well, 651 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: why are they blacking out the gym And they said, well, 652 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: U and lv's on their way here. They're about to 653 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: practice what and so they said, well, and Jerry Tarkanian. 654 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: They got off the bus. My buddy Mike Byron. Mike 655 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Byron had taken a picture of Jerry Tarkanian. I don't 656 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: know how he did this. It was masterful. He took 657 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: a picture of Jerry Tarkanian in nineteen ninety one and 658 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: the headshot of Tarkanian and put it on and somehow 659 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: managed to work it into his driver's license. So Mike 660 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Byron's driver's license the picture of it was Jerry Tarkanian, 661 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: and Jerry Tarkanian got off the bus at UNLV and 662 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: Byron's like, hey, coach, check this out and Jerry Tarkanian 663 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: looked at it. I'll never forget, and he had kind 664 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: of an Elmer Fudd type. He looked at it and 665 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: just said like, well, that's pretty good if I. 666 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 2: Can guess this correctly with the next bounthback song, Jake, 667 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: what's my. 668 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: Prize Jamaican Patty's okay, And believe you me, that's a 669 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: fabulous price. So Tarkanian looked at it and just said 670 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good kid and handed it to him 671 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: and they went and so then Tarkanian went up to 672 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was doctor Whier who it was, 673 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: but basically said like, hey, if these guys are with 674 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: the basketball program, they can watch practice. And I was 675 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: just the radio guy. And so we went in to 676 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: watch practice and there were probably fifteen of us, maybe twenty, 677 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: and we got to sit and watch the practice. And 678 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: I've told this before, but it's amazing to me that 679 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: ninety one team, which was loaded, they scrimmaged for like 680 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: two and a half hours, and the starting five were 681 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: on offense the entire time. The most unbelievable thing I've 682 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: ever seen. And we're sitting there, not literally I've seen 683 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: other unbelievable things, but it was pretty remarkable. And Larry Johnson, 684 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: at any rate, after they were warming up, he had 685 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: a Sony discman, which were really rare at the time. 686 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: If you had one, you put on a pillow in 687 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: your passenger seat, you could theoretically drive without it skipping. 688 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: And you had a cassette like transferable thing that you 689 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: put into your cassette player. Now you could listen to 690 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: CDs in your card. It was mind blowing. But he said, hey, 691 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: can you watch my CD for me? My discman? And 692 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: I said sure, and it sat in my lap, basically 693 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: sat there because I was like this Larry Johnson's Grandmama. 694 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: I don't touch it. He hadn't been to Grandmama yet. 695 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: But he was about to be the number one pick 696 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: of the draft. Everyone knew it. He was a college 697 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: player of the year. And finally, about an hour and 698 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: forty five minutes into the practice, my curiosity got the 699 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: best of me and I hit the open button to 700 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: see what ced it was he was listening to. And 701 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: Derek listened back at me, and I've never forgotten it. 702 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: It is not the Ghetto Boys, but the transfer portal. 703 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: Now instead of having your starting five on offense for 704 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: two and a half hours during a practice. You just 705 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: want to maintain consistency of getting any of your starting 706 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: five back the next year. Because everybody now goes into 707 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: the portal. I'm using air quotes on everybody. There are 708 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: a number of players with Indiana ties that are available 709 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: theoretically now, if you had to guess Eddie and Purdue, 710 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: and I'm going to use Indiana as the example, and 711 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: I know that Purdue is the better basketball program. Right 712 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: Purdue is coming off of a whisker within a Final four. 713 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: Matt Painter has an absolutely rolling and I think people 714 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: are well aware of the fact that I love everything 715 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: about what Purdue stands for and what they do. And 716 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: we can sit here and discuss and debate until the 717 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: cows come home. You know, the merits of Purdue basketball 718 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: in terms of can they you know, totally get it 719 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: done and you know all of those things? Is this 720 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: the ceiling. I love what they're doing, and a big 721 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: part of what they do is the fact that they yes, 722 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: they have used portal and they've used nil, but they 723 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: have not relied on it. Right, the challenge and the 724 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: difficulty and the danger in relying on it is what 725 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: you know is this Let's just say for the sake 726 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: of the discussion, and I'm going to use Indiana as 727 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: an example, but let's say for the sake of discussion 728 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: that Indiana says we're going and we know they're gonna 729 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: have to rely heavily on portal. I mean, they have 730 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: some recruits coming in, but they now have essentially a 731 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: general manager in Ryankarr, whose job is to figure out 732 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: who they can get, where they can place them, how 733 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: they're going to mold together. So in that way, they 734 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: look at players that have Indiana ties, that might have 735 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: grown up being aware of Indiana and whatever else. And 736 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: let's just pretend that that still matters. Let's pretend that 737 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: still matters, and that these are not guys that are like, no, 738 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: it's about money. It has nothing to do with what 739 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: school I grew up watching. And I have no idea 740 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: what these individuals that I'm going to mention. I don't 741 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: know any thing about these people as young men. I 742 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: just know that these are players whose names apparently are 743 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. Trey Singleton, who was a really 744 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: good player at Jeffersonville, went to Northwestern, had a nice 745 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: freshman year average I think eight points a game. Good player. 746 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: It was a really good player in high school, you know, 747 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: helped Jeff to the state finals obviously. 748 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: I think they was in the state championship, right they 749 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: did TWI yeah. 750 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: He is in the portal from Northwestern. Another kid from Jeff, 751 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: Michael Cooper who's at right State. Yeah, yeah, put up 752 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 1: fourteen a game, right yep? Now, Horizon League player? Does 753 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: that mean that that you know, did Indiana look at 754 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: it and go, hey, we kind of learned our lesson 755 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: on some guys that looked like they were going to 756 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: be elite level players, but they came here and yeah 757 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: they were okay, but you need to up at a notch. 758 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: But is that a piece that they could go after? 759 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: Two of the big ones probably the biggest, right, I 760 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: mean the first one being and he's got everything that 761 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: you would want. Jalen Harrelson, a former five star recruit 762 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame sixteen a game as a freshman. I mean, 763 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: elite level player six to seven, can defend, play on 764 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: the wing, all of it. And then Flora Badunga, the 765 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: former mister basketball at Kansas, who I think has like 766 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: an Oscar sheeb Way type feel to him, really good rebounder, 767 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: really good RINP protector, decent pick and roll not necessarily 768 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: a play from ten feet out kind of guy, and 769 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: maybe well headed to the NBA for probably a late 770 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: first but more likely early second round pick. 771 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: I just don't know Jake Clink when you're Floria Paduna. 772 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: He's listed at six' nine and he doesn't really put 773 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: up outrageous rebounding. Numbers as a, center he doesn't like 774 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: as you, mentioned he doesn't score outside of the, rim 775 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,720 Speaker 2: like it's his offensive game is, putbacks, dunks rim runs 776 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: layups on, rolls and gets to the foul line on. 777 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: Occasion it's very Similar toy To Trace Jackson. Davis you, 778 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 2: know After trace had a great sophomore year AT, iu 779 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 2: he tested the waters ends up going back To indiana 780 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: for two more. Years and it's kind of like the 781 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: same thing they Asked trace to work on is jump, 782 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 2: shooting to be able to spread the floor a little, 783 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 2: bit and that's Something Flora dunga just doesn't do right. 784 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: Well The Badunga, again all of these, GUYS i, Mean 785 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: harrelson would be the centerpiece of a team if you 786 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: were to get all these guys. Together And i'm strictly speaking. 787 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: Hypotheticals the one challenge you get with, that and this 788 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: is the trick of it. All what you know is 789 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: that you are getting guys that are willing to test 790 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: the waters to go elsewhere and up their pay grade 791 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: a year. Later AND i get. It that is well 792 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: within the. Right i'm not damning them for it at. 793 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: All but if you look at What purdue has. Done for, 794 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: Example purdue has been able to concede now have They, 795 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: yeah But, jake they haven't gotten too A final. FOUR 796 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: i get, it and they did with Zach. Heti but 797 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: you get What i'm. Saying The purdue is has and 798 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: it Maybe purdue might have hit the limit on a 799 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: number of. Times they can do, this but you got 800 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: to have roster. Consistency you've got to have some foundation 801 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: there of players that are core players for, you and 802 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: then you use the portal to accentuate when You if 803 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: you are trying to do your roster entirely off of 804 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: portal guys because you have the most money to spend 805 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: or the biggest booster, allotment then what you're doing is 806 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: essentially making a house of, cards because a year later 807 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: you're going to be right back in the same. Spot 808 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: because if a guy's, like, yeah, MAN i went from 809 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 1: right state To, INDIANA i went from four hundred thousand 810 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: to one point. TWO i bet IF i go From 811 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: indiana To, CAROLINA i can go from one point two 812 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: to one point. Eight at, whatever that's the danger you 813 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 1: run into. YOU i think it is an excellent tool 814 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: to get you in the right. Direction but if you 815 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: begin to become totally reliant on, it look at look 816 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: at what happened To John. Caliperry Eventually John caliperi At, 817 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: kentucky who's one a brilliant. Coach But kentucky fans got 818 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: tired of it after a while because they're like and 819 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: then it was one And done's not portal, Guys but 820 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 1: it was, like, look we're just redoing a roster every single, 821 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: year and By november we know whether it's gonna work or. 822 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: Not and By JANUARY i know whether to check out 823 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: or stay. 824 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 2: Invested what's gonna? Happen jake Is darren De frees may 825 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: it one of the four that we just highlighted being From. 826 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: Indiana he may get, nine he may get two or, 827 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: Whatever and, uh there's gonna be that group OF iu 828 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 2: fans are going to be, like, dude what the heck 829 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: are you? Doing like this is sitting to you on 830 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 2: a silver, platter, like, well maybe those players don't fit 831 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 2: What darren De frees is wanting to, do. 832 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: RIGHT i do Think devriez is a good. COACH i 833 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: do a lot that goes into putting together A final, 834 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: four not just a, team but A final four, itself 835 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: including a collaborative effort to make sure that everybody's. Safe 836 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: Ralph Free we've had on the show several, times can 837 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: talk about. That he has headed up the training staffs 838 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: For Final fours multiple times over the. Years he's going 839 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: to join us about fifteen minutes from, Now Taylor, TANNEBAUM 840 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: i think is going to be on the call for 841 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: the N, championship going to join. Us bottom of the, Art, Now, 842 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: eddie clearly you've heard me tell the story, before like 843 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: once or. Twice this is. Correct Larry johnson was listening 844 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: to RI. E. M, green which was a great, album 845 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: but that's what he had in his Discmand. 846 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 2: Now where do you Get jamaican And Patty's Jake patty's Of. 847 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: Jamaica you've never had? Him right, Now i'd like to 848 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: ask this question IF i may and get afternoon to. 849 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: You by the, Way ralph freef coming up just about 850 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: ten minutes from, now actually a little over five minutes 851 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: from now on this final Four, friday tons of events 852 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: going on concert, tonight twenty One pilots headlining, it headlining. 853 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: It that is a free concert at The American Legion 854 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: mall just to the south of where we are broadcasting right, 855 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: now and a huge weekend of basketball with of course 856 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,919 Speaker 1: The Final four On, saturday all of the championship games 857 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: including THE Nit championship coming up On sunday At gambridge Field, 858 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: house and Then monday it will be The National championship, Game. 859 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: Eddie in the time that you AND i have done this, 860 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: show speaking of with your inquiry, There i'd like to know. 861 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: This i'd like to know the number of different, things 862 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: and you can just give me one of. THEM i, 863 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 1: mean there's a ton to choose. From tell me one 864 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: thing WHERE i introduced you to something that changed your, 865 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: life whether it be a, theory whether it be an 866 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: actual food, item a, beverage something WHERE i need you 867 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: to something or made something accessible to you and you 868 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: said to, YOURSELF i will never again be the. Same. 869 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 2: Hmm that list is pretty, short, Okay Java house, okay, 870 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: Uh Surf side. Yep and The Fast time is A Ridgemont. 871 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: High. Okay, yeah you were familiar With chicago's, pizza although 872 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: when they brought it in you managed to polish that off. Quickly, right, 873 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah Fast Times Origement high is a good. EXAMPLE i 874 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: introduced you to that and changed your lifef you want 875 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: you literally. Now what's not on. 876 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 2: The list is are those god awful shrimp. 877 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: Ships those are, fabulous you know. What thank you for mentioning, 878 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: that which reminds Me i'm going To Long beach in two. 879 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: Weeks i'll bring them. 880 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: Back with the Catch Up laze top of the. 881 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: List those are, awesome, right, yes, Okay i'm gonna Put 882 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: patties Of jamaica in the same category as the Catch up. Las, 883 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: now let me Explain pattis Of jamaica fifty second At. 884 00:51:54,040 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: Alisonville Henry henry was a man From jamaica, who while In, 885 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: jamaica met his, wife who Is asian or Of asian, 886 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: descent and in nineteen seventy eight or so they immigrated 887 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: to The United states And henry opened Up patties Of 888 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: jamaica at fifty second And allisonville is it's this studio 889 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: is bigger Than patties Of. Jamaica and at that, time 890 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: you went in and they sold one thing, patties which 891 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: is basically a kind of a cheese a subtly cheese 892 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: flavored pet up bread with a Curried jamaican meat in the, 893 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: middle A jamaican beef in the. Middle and WHEN i 894 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: was in high, school we would. Go in middle, school 895 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: we would go all the. Time they were seventy five 896 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: cents a. Patty you left there after if you spent 897 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: five bucks, there you were basically not eating for like 898 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: two days afterwards because you ate so many. Patties they 899 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: were so they're the. Best henry passed Probably i'm going 900 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: to guess eight years, ago and his, Son, stefan he's 901 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: brilliant predue. Graduate stefan runs it now and in the 902 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: spirit of his. Father when you walk, In stefan greets 903 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: you with the biggest smile on his face and simply, says, 904 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: hello my. Friend then when you buy your, patties he 905 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: gives you the price four, dollars my. Friend and everyone 906 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: Is stefan's, friend and anybody who's been in. There it's 907 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 1: the greatest guy grub of all, time and you just 908 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: go in and the best part about it they have 909 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: two little tables in, there and it's not uncommon if 910 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: you go in and eat. Patties then somebody else comes 911 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: in that also has the crave and they say and 912 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: they sit, down and now you're sitting having lunch with 913 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: a total stranger and you're bonding Over patti's and you 914 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: walk away and you're, like, well if that Guy's stefan's, 915 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: friend which he must be Because stefan said, hello, friend 916 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: then that guy's my friend. Too it is literally the 917 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: most wonderful like little nook and cranny joint In. 918 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 2: Indianapolis, Yeah greg texting on the show that, said we 919 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: need to stop doing the, show like right now to 920 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 2: go get some. Patties, Yeah i'm suggested to do a 921 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 2: remote from the little dining. 922 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: Area i'm telling, you patties are the. Best it's the. 923 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: Best it'll change your. 924 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 2: Life greg From avon he's got three, g's which is pretty. 925 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 3: Cool. 926 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 2: Uh he texted back when we were starting about talking 927 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 2: off the start of the show and moon about nothing to. 928 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 2: Do jake, Said i'm on vacation And i've already picked 929 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 2: up all the dog poo in the. Yard so HERE 930 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 2: i am. 931 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: That actually there is no greater is? There there is 932 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: no greater like just illustration of this program than. THAT 933 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: i would agree we should do a promo of that queried. 934 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: Company that's really, sure the fan talking, sports having, fun 935 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: educating and. Entertaining after you pick up the dog, pooh 936 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: join us until three ninety three to five and one 937 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: oh seven five the. Fan that's what we, do, Right 938 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: And i'm not even in due's not spelled doo, either, 939 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: Right Ralph rief is going to join us in just 940 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: a second, Here Because RALPH i thought about and the 941 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: thing that most popped into my mind was the and 942 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 1: it was the. Regionals it was not the final, four 943 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: but in the regionals a couple of years, ago WHEN 944 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: i believe his name, Was Kevin ware Of louisville had 945 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: the compound fracture in his, leg and, literally like the training, 946 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: staff there were trainers on him, immediately AND i noticed 947 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: that it wasn't just The louisville training. Staff there were 948 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: others that were there that were on. Site AND i, 949 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: realized you know, what we have so many wonderful training 950 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: facilities In indianapolis That i'll bet they collectively and collaboratively 951 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: work kind of behind the. Scenes AND i can only 952 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: imagine when you're talking about you, know in the case 953 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 1: of The final, four you have athletes playing within it 954 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: THAT i mean they are, investments, RIGHT i mean many of, 955 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: them because this is a step before they, want you, 956 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: know many of, Them basketball is going to be their. 957 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: Livelihood they're going to make a significant amount of money 958 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: in doing, it and so you've got to there is 959 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: a pressure and expectation and expertise that goes into making 960 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: sure that those athletes are ready to go at all. 961 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: Times AND i don't know how much of that is 962 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: preparatory stuff and how much of that is just being 963 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: there in case of an emergency type. Stuff But Ralph 964 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: reef first began in terms of the final fours. Themselves 965 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: he managed the team medical services for seven different final, 966 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 1: fours the nineteen Eighty final, four which was the first 967 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: here in, town the nineteen ninety One final four at 968 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: The Hoosier, dome the ninety, seven two, thousand and two 969 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: thousand and six final fours in THE Rcaa, dome also 970 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: The Hoosier, dome and then twenty ten and twenty fifteen 971 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: At Lucas Oil. Staium he joins us now on the guest. Line, 972 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: ralph it's a pretty special time when The Final four 973 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: comes to. TOWN i love everything about, it And i'm 974 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: assuming it also gives you that same jolt of. 975 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 4: Energy, well no question about. It i'm just getting out 976 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 4: of downtown after some visits with some friends in the basketball, 977 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 4: world and, yeah it's a crowded space and on the 978 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 4: day like, today everybody is expecting to, win so everybody's 979 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 4: not a good. 980 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: Marries that's, right that's. Right and you, Know, ralph before 981 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: we get into the training, stuff one of the real 982 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: fun things about This final, four you, know there are, 983 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: always And i've said this, before usually there's one team 984 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: in The final four that truly has this like just 985 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: got hot at the right, Time cinderella type. Run but 986 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: you kind of know that maybe they've hit the. CEILING 987 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: i think any of these four could win. IT i, 988 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: MEAN i think that's the thing that's really exciting is 989 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: if you were to tell, me you, Know illinois probably 990 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: the least, favored if you, will but if you told 991 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: Me illinois won, It i'd, go, YEAH i get. IT I, 992 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: mean the way they can shoot the, BASKETBALL i think 993 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: it's wide open which is what makes it. Fun. 994 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely four great, teams no question about, it four 995 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 4: great historic. 996 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: Programs, Okay so let's talk about the team aspect of. It. 997 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 1: Okay Ralph frief is my guest From Executive Performance, solutions of, 998 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: course long time athletic trainer and medically involved With As 999 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: i'd mentioned seven final, fours let's just say for the 1000 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: sake of, discussion we'll take The Illinois connecticut. Game, so 1001 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: When illinois And connecticut are playing in that, game you 1002 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: obviously have the training staff for the two respective universities 1003 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: that are there to assist and accommodate should a player 1004 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: on their roster have some sort of an, Issue god. 1005 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: Willing but are there others that are there on standby 1006 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: that are independently brought in by the city or by 1007 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: THE ncaa to assist in that. 1008 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 5: Capacity, Yeah, jake there's a sort of castgating organizational, charge 1009 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 5: if you, will of taking care of the, teams and 1010 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,439 Speaker 5: so to narrow that down and that sort of broad, 1011 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 5: statement my, responsibilities we're always medical in aspect of supporting 1012 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 5: the medical staff that's with each, team and of course 1013 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 5: when you get to The final, four everybody involved medically 1014 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 5: with that basketball team is either in the house meaning 1015 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 5: they've got a, ticket or. 1016 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 4: They're credentialed on the, bench so we're supporting. Them the 1017 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 4: other aspect of, that we support the. Managers we help 1018 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 4: with team, services everything from making sure the locker rooms 1019 00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 4: are fully stocked with sponsored beverages at towels and all 1020 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 4: the amenities that you would want to have for your, 1021 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 4: team because remember all four teams are visitors if you, 1022 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 4: will they they don't have their own, stuff and so 1023 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 4: it's a lot of build. Up there's a lot of, 1024 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 4: equipment bringing in everything from exercise bicycles to two cold 1025 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 4: tubs to create ice ice immersion for the. Athletes and 1026 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 4: then we provide backup physicians who might have an expertise 1027 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 4: and let's say hydration with putting in AN iv SO 1028 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 4: i might have a paramedic. Involved and plus all your 1029 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 4: local physicians have access to the to the, HOSPITALS x 1030 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 4: ray pharmacy and so. Forth so you build a system 1031 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 4: that we can call somebody gets a scratch to their, 1032 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 4: Eye i've got an ophthalmologist on call or in the 1033 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 4: facility who can manage that eye. Entry so they so 1034 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 4: the teams just literally don't have to worry about. 1035 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Anything how many total people like auxiliary individuals are we 1036 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: talking about that are not directly let's, say arriving with said, 1037 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: teams but are there as medical support STAFF. 1038 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 4: I would typically work With and this grew over the. Years, 1039 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 4: right nineteen eighty it Was Ralph reef and we provided. Nothing, 1040 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 4: RIGHT i was there as a student as a student 1041 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 4: at The university Of. INDIANAPOLIS i Was David craig's student, 1042 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 4: assistant longtime athletic trainer for The Indiana. Pacers they were 1043 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 4: on a. ROAD i basically unlocked the training room In 1044 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 4: Market Square. Arena and so. 1045 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 3: Now what we. 1046 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 4: Do typically you'd have a list of twelve twelve to 1047 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 4: fifteen people and AGAIN x ray, texts, ophthalmologist, dentist massage, 1048 01:01:54,480 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 4: therapist and primary care, physicians orthopedic, physicians and then from 1049 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 4: there you fill it in with athletic, trainers equipment manager 1050 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 4: and folks who can really take care of the locker, 1051 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 4: rooms take care of the. Bench and then we would 1052 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 4: also have a cadre of paramedics dedicated specifically to the. 1053 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 4: Floor so that list gets pretty long and pretty, complex 1054 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 4: but it all works very. WELL i heard you Mentioned 1055 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 4: kevin where in twenty thirteen With, louisville and that was 1056 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 4: sort of the pinnacle of seeing a system WORK x 1057 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 4: two expert. 1058 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Levels, yeah and with, That, ralph my recollection of that is, 1059 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: this and you can probably fill in the blanks. BETTER 1060 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: i recall something happening along the lines of when where 1061 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: had his, injury and it was in front of the 1062 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: OPPOSED i want to say it Was Michigan, state BUT 1063 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: i can't remember who they were. Playing but when he 1064 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: had his, injury IF i remember, correctly the first trainer 1065 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: to or medical personnel to tend to him was not 1066 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: someone From. Louisville it was From it might have been 1067 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: either the whether it was The Horizon league Or butler 1068 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: or whatever it may. Be it was somebody who was 1069 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: not directly on a day to day conditioned to work with. 1070 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Him AM i correcting that or do you? 1071 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 4: RECALL i recall BECAUSE i was, there so to put. That, 1072 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 4: so it happened right in front of The louisville. Bench 1073 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 4: the first people to sort of see it or teammates 1074 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 4: who were sitting at eyeball level to the, floor and 1075 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 4: Then louisville's athletic trainer came out immediately hopped up from 1076 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 4: the bench threw a towel over the, fracture which was 1077 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 4: brilliant because there were literally people my wife and youngest 1078 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 4: son were sitting in row four behind The louisville, bench 1079 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 4: and there were people around my family that were vomiting 1080 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 4: from seeing it. Happen and SO i happened to be 1081 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 4: on the opposite corner of the, floor and we had 1082 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 4: signals and we practiced all this sort of. Thing and 1083 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 4: So fred who's the athletic trainer For louisville at the 1084 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 4: time and he had a long stint with The New York, 1085 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 4: yankees then came To louisville and was Coach patino's, guy 1086 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 4: and he put his hand over his, head which was 1087 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 4: a signal for, assistance and we immediately jumped into, order 1088 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 4: and once we saw what it, was we our paramedics 1089 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 4: came on the, floor we carted them off And jake 1090 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 4: just that was a, big big deal from from a medical, 1091 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 4: perspective and we literally had him off the court and 1092 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 4: they only lost when you add in timeouts and, everything 1093 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 4: they only lost six minutes of playing, Time so it 1094 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 4: seemed like a really long, delay but from a television, 1095 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 4: standpoint it was not a lengthy delay at, all our, 1096 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 4: staff our, training everything worked great on that day and 1097 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 4: cartered him off and immediately got him INTO Iu health 1098 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 4: downtown where the trauma surgeons were waiting on. 1099 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,959 Speaker 1: Him and then there was also an incident And, ralph 1100 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: this may have been you might not have been working 1101 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: this final, four BUT i Believe i'm correct in. THIS 1102 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 1: i think it was In indianapolis WHEN i believe his 1103 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: name Is Bert, smith who was an, official and he passed. 1104 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: OUT i believe he. Had they found out it was 1105 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: a blood clot or something like, that but he passed 1106 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: out running down the. Floor and that's another one where 1107 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: and maybe that's What i'm thinking, of where somebody jumped 1108 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: over a bench to go out and assist him, immediately 1109 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: and it was a trainer that would not have had 1110 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: any direct connection with the. Officials. 1111 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 4: Correct, yeah that was Doctor Patrick's, Cursey Pat, cursey physician 1112 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 4: With Saint Misters Sports. Performance that was during THE covid 1113 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 4: and it was in the facility Downtown Lucas oil and, 1114 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 4: yeah he, Collapsed Pat. Cursey and then two athletic trainers 1115 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 4: who are working this final, Four Chad gebbert And Dave, 1116 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 4: wycheo were there to assist him and they carted him 1117 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 4: off and he's back. Officiating he was well taken care, 1118 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 4: of his issue was, solved And i've seen him work 1119 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 4: a number of games this. 1120 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Year, yeah super nice. GUY i was at an event 1121 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: with him not long after, that and he was obviously, 1122 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 1: grateful but just really a, humble good, official, right really 1123 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 1: humble and nice. 1124 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 3: Guy, yep. 1125 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeh but BUT i wanted to get to one other thing, Here. 1126 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Ralph Ralph frief is my guest talking about THE Ncaa 1127 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Final four and just all of the medical aspect of, 1128 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: it because we talk about you, know we've talked to 1129 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: you before about everything that goes into the, combine for, 1130 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: example and all the medical aspect of it In indianapolis's 1131 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: resources that it. Has so the one thing THAT i 1132 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: GUESS i became most curious about him thinking about all 1133 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: of the efforts, Here let's give a hypothetical, Here, ralph 1134 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: and just say that two teams, are you, Know TEAM 1135 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: a And TEAM b are playing in The final, four 1136 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: and something happens to a player From TEAM, a and 1137 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 1: it's fairly, traumatic and it happens right in front of 1138 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: the bench Of TEAM. B is there some sort of 1139 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: a protocol as to the trainer For TEAM b that 1140 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: is not a regular trainer for that, athlete but he 1141 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 1: happens to be the closest in. Proximity is there a 1142 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 1: protocol of he goes out and immediately assesses until the 1143 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: trainer From TEAM a can get over, there and then 1144 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: there's an understood deference in terms of who makes the 1145 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: call on what to do and how to handle the. 1146 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Situation because you, KNOW i would assume it's an organized. 1147 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Chaos so how exactly is that all divvied? 1148 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 4: Up if you, Will, yeah you bring up a great 1149 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 4: point and a great. Scenario it's called a medical. Timeout 1150 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 4: so once the final clock starts, ticking so once we're 1151 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 4: sixty minutes from, tip there will be somewhere in the 1152 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 4: countdown sheet there will be a time dedicated for a medical. 1153 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 4: Timeout and that medical timeout is when the team of the, 1154 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:18,440 Speaker 4: team athletic, trainers physicians who are, there and the, referees 1155 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 4: the officials who are managing the, game we will have 1156 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 4: a meeting somewhere around the court or on the, court 1157 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 4: and we will go over those scenarios of let's say 1158 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 4: an official goes, down who takes responsibility if that, Scenario 1159 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 4: like you, Mentioned team b athlete goes down in front 1160 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 4: of teammate's, bench the closest medical personnel will manage. It 1161 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 4: if there's blood on the, court what do the ball 1162 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 4: boys do, Well they don't manage. It that's managed by 1163 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 4: team personnel who know how to handle blood orn't. Pathogens 1164 01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 4: so we go through those, things identify different places around the. 1165 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 4: Court something else that we also mentioned is within our medical, 1166 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 4: protocol we have a scope of. Services so it's not 1167 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 4: just the players on the, floor it's the credential staff 1168 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 4: that's on the, bench credential university, officials so athletic, director, 1169 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 4: president spouses of those. Individuals our team would have responsibility 1170 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 4: for those folks that happened during the college football championship 1171 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 4: game Between georgia And. Alabama we had a team family 1172 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 4: member from the coaching staff who became injured in the 1173 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 4: bleachers and that became our issue to. Manage so all 1174 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 4: of this is. Discussed it's coordinated and one of the 1175 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 4: great things about the medical, community, man people work well. 1176 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Together, ralph before we let you, Go Ralph reef is my. 1177 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: GUEST i wanted to ask. You we are, LITERALLY i, 1178 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: mean by the time we know who the national champion 1179 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: is going to be in college, basketball will be right 1180 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 1: on the doorstep of what would be at that. POINT 1181 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: i guess the four month mark sends the injury to 1182 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the achilles Of Daniel. Jones at a four month, mark 1183 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 1: that would mean that he basically should or possibly could 1184 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 1: beware in terms of his, recovery you, know accessibility to, 1185 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: movement et. 1186 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 3: Cetera, yeah he would be. 1187 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 4: In a in a, boot so some immobilization and perhaps 1188 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,360 Speaker 4: going to a tear down a layer down in protection 1189 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 4: from a full lower leg boot to just an ankle 1190 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 4: and foot prosthetic that he could wear over a. Shoe 1191 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 4: so he's, protected but still starting to get his full 1192 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 4: range of. Motion so he's pushing off of his, toes 1193 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 4: he's landing on his, heel and that's where he would 1194 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 4: be at this point in. Time he might be doing 1195 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 4: some bouncing in a very controlled, environment and so from 1196 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 4: maybe a flat footed, position is probably throwing a. Football 1197 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 4: so that's that's WHERE i would suspect him to be 1198 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 4: at this. 1199 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,560 Speaker 1: Point, RALPH i noticed on your on your website that 1200 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 1: you've got a photo of. YOU i would presume it's 1201 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: a grandchild and you're reading An elmo book to. Them 1202 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: you've got An elmo and you're reading An elmo book to. 1203 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 1: Them do you ever feel like when you have to 1204 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 1: talk medicine with me that it's kind of like you're 1205 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: reading An almo book because you do a remarkable job 1206 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: of making it relatable to you, know a guy that's 1207 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 1: ranked four hundred and eighty second in his high school class, 1208 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: academically which is very much. Appreciated, well truth be. 1209 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,640 Speaker 4: Told that picture with my. GRANDSON i was actually practicing 1210 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 4: for this, show. 1211 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 1: Reading, yeah that's, right that's, right and your grandson kept 1212 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,759 Speaker 1: saying smaller, words great, up smaller words, Right, yeah. 1213 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 4: The joy of my life, man. 1214 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Grandchildren, WOW i bet, Well i'll tell you WHAT i 1215 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: mean when it comes To elmo and reading to your. 1216 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Grandchildren i'm always tickled when you can come. On so 1217 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: we very much appreciate, it and great perspectives appreciate it 1218 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: as always enjoy The final. 1219 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 3: Four thank you very. 1220 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Much, Hi Ralph reef joining me on the Program we 1221 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 1: come back In. It finals will also be On sunday 1222 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 1: At Gambridge Field. House that stage is. Set one of 1223 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: those who will be holding a microphone for it has 1224 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: some familiarity With. Indianapolis Taylor, tannembaum who will join us. 1225 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Next so last, night you, KNOW i was watching that 1226 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Show i've been telling you About, eddie that naked show 1227 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: That British it's like a normal show On british. Television 1228 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: it's like the dating, game but everybody's. Naked. Okay, NOW 1229 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: i watched an episode the other night and the contestants 1230 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 1: we're all seventy. Plus that was a bit of what 1231 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: we say is a tough, watch, Right, Okay i'm just telling. 1232 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: You it's Called Naked. Attraction it's So i'm watching the, show, 1233 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Okay and and As i'm watching, It I'm i'm also you, 1234 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 1: KNOW i wasn't particularly interested in, this, uh this group 1235 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: of nudity that was being brought. Up So i'm scrolling 1236 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: through my phone AND i happened to, see you, know 1237 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 1: our Friend Taylor, tannebaum of, course formerly A wthr that's 1238 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: now with THE Acc network IN, espn AND i see 1239 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 1: a post that she has mentioning that even though she 1240 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: was calling the games at Hinkle Field, house she had 1241 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: never seen the Movie. Hoosiers, okay and SO i paused 1242 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: the Naked i've told you about This Naked attraction. Show 1243 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: now you can you can sit here and play dumb 1244 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 1: if you'd, like but we won't tell anybody that You 1245 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 1: actually last night at three thirty in the morning sent 1246 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: me a text that, said season, Four show, nine what's 1247 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 1: going on? 1248 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 3: Here just? 1249 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 1: LYING i was. 1250 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 2: ASLEEP i was, Asleep. 1251 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: SO i Texted taylor said ACTUALLY i called her AND i, said, 1252 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: wait you've never Seen hoosiers and so we had a 1253 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: lovely conversation AND i, said, well since you're going to 1254 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,560 Speaker 1: be on the call for the N I T, championship 1255 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: how about coming in the big. 1256 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Program i'm sure appreciating this. Intro, Jake, oh. 1257 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 1: She's aware of the. Program our. Show, huh our. Show, 1258 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: no nobody's aware of this, show but she knows about 1259 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: the Naked, brits not W. Hoosiers. 1260 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 6: THOUGH i was not sure where this segue was, going 1261 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 6: But i'm happy at landon where it. 1262 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: Did, okay so you and me both hold. On it's 1263 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 1: a it's a very bizarre show because it was on 1264 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 1: normal television In england and that's what's weird about. It But, 1265 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: taylor you you were aware of the, show, RIGHT i. 1266 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 6: AM i don't know Where i've seen it. Before but 1267 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,720 Speaker 6: then once you, start it's very hard to stop SO 1268 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 6: i can. Understand it's extremely, strange and then you just 1269 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 6: start judging. People it's. Wild it's a wild, experience that's. 1270 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: It AND i, honestly and you AND i talked about, 1271 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 1: this BUT i want to be clear here as to 1272 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: not make so that this doesn't sound uncomfortable flip and see. 1273 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Aside it is far more an observation of just the 1274 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 1: human element of, yes biologically, speaking and then as, well 1275 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,560 Speaker 1: like the emotional aspect that comes with people in these uncomfortable, 1276 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: situations and that's what makes the show, fascinating, right no. 1277 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 6: Question And i'm, like, man those those toes really did 1278 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 6: it for. YOU i was, LIKE i can't agree with, 1279 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 6: That like it's just an interesting case. Study it is. 1280 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Because they will ask, people, well what what attracted you 1281 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 1: about you, Know, john and it's, like, WELL i really, 1282 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 1: like you, know his his shoulder blades and the symmetry 1283 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: of his pinky. Toe you, know like what it's totally 1284 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 1: bizarre right in, REALITY i guess you know WHAT i? 1285 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 1: Mean what's, yeah you're, right, teacher, now so let's get 1286 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: to this before we get to the N I t 1287 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: and welcome back. Home by the, WAY i realize you're A. 1288 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Floridian but you are sure. 1289 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 7: You have or have? 1290 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,719 Speaker 1: Not now did? You did, you in any, way shape 1291 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 1: or foot, form even dip your toe into the water 1292 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Of hoosiers last? 1293 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,760 Speaker 6: Night SO i fear last night after we hung up 1294 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 6: the phone AND i fell, asleep but it was a long. 1295 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 6: Day but with that being, SAID i have an obligation 1296 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 6: and duty and desire to watch. It SO i will 1297 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 6: before The championship of the N it On sunday BECAUSE 1298 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 6: i KNOW i will inevitably get out about it ON 1299 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 6: tv BECAUSE i knew WHEN i said that last night 1300 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 6: that this wasn't going to go over well with the. 1301 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 6: People now let me say. THIS i have seen, CLIPS 1302 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 6: i have seen. Pieces i'll put it on in the 1303 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 6: background because it's always ON, tv But i've never really seen. 1304 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 6: It start, AGAIN i get, it AND i, KNOW i 1305 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 6: know that's really like it's really, damning as like an 1306 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 6: Honorary hoosier THAT i haven't seen the. 1307 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Movie so, well the funny thing is how long did 1308 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 1: you work AT thhr four? Years so it's not as 1309 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 1: though you don't have experience with Hinkle. FIELDHOUSE i, Mean 1310 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: i'm assuming you've been to hinkle Field house fifty, times, right. 1311 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 6: Billion times for so many different. Things and, honestly one 1312 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 6: of the last TIMES i was, THERE i was there 1313 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 6: obviously For, butler but two LIKE i think about THE 1314 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 6: Covid tournament and it was hew At hinkle And louisville or, 1315 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 6: sorry it Was Saint John's State alabama or one of those. 1316 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,720 Speaker 6: GAMES i Know Rick patino was coaching because this Whole 1317 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 6: louisville team was back watching. Him so you, know it's 1318 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 6: it's definitely a cool place And i've been there a trillion, 1319 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 6: times BUT i just had never seen the. 1320 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: Movies well you, obviously you, know came back in this 1321 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 1: particular situation because you're working the sidelines right FOR espn 1322 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 1: for these games in the N. 1323 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 6: I Am, yeah and what an honor not lost on 1324 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 6: me for. 1325 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,640 Speaker 1: Sure it's very cool for. Certain and one of the 1326 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 1: teams that is a STORYLINE i think On sunday is 1327 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: the fact That auburn is one and we get this 1328 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot right where you get the team that there 1329 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,560 Speaker 1: is so much discussion about should they have made the 1330 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: tournament and they did, not and so they're in the 1331 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: N i and here they are in the. FINALS i 1332 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know as much About tulsa to be honest with 1333 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 1: you what you, know what do we anticipate from this 1334 01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,679 Speaker 1: particular this particular. 1335 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 6: Match SO i would anticipate first and, Foremost auburn on 1336 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,479 Speaker 6: paper is a superior. Team they're the number one overall 1337 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 6: seed in this. Tournament they were one of the first teams. 1338 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 6: Out you, know there's so many. Scenarios if one shot 1339 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 6: would have went in differently for The tigers this, SEASON 1340 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 6: i would have Seen they've probably beaten The Big. Dance 1341 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 6: and then maybe IF smu hadn't SAID E. J edwards 1342 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 6: was definitely going to be back and he inevitably wasn't 1343 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,600 Speaker 6: in that first, four then maybe The tigers would have 1344 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,960 Speaker 6: been in over The. MUSTANGS i don't. Know but with 1345 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 6: that being, said you now have An auburn team that 1346 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 6: they didn't come this. Far to come this, far, right 1347 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 6: they'd either probably bow out in the first round because 1348 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 6: they didn't, care or you're gonna get this far you 1349 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 6: want to win a. Championship they're talented top to, bottom 1350 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 6: and it's to Hot, pettiford you, Know Tey Shawn, Hall Kevin, overton, 1351 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:51,679 Speaker 6: like these guys are ballers and they can play against 1352 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 6: the best of. Them gone through AN sec, gauntlet they 1353 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 6: had the third toughest schedule in the. Country but then you, 1354 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 6: know you have A tulsa team that this is everything for, 1355 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 6: them this is and this is what they're playing. For 1356 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 6: and they're led by head Coach Eric, conkle who has 1357 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 6: a ton of experience and you, know he's in this 1358 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,599 Speaker 6: fourth season at The helm there and they've really built 1359 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 6: this thing into a solid basketball. Program and they have 1360 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 6: some dudes who can shoot the, three like they get 1361 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 6: hot from. Three auburn's going to have to combat, that 1362 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 6: which they, can but you, know it's one game and 1363 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 6: it's a one game sample, size so we'll see if 1364 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 6: they can do. IT i think that's what you can. 1365 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,560 Speaker 6: Expect it's An auburn team THAT i think at this 1366 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 6: point does have a desire to win this championship to 1367 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 6: prove those people wrong who thought they were going to 1368 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 6: lay an. Egg Coach Stephen pearl will tell you. That 1369 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 6: and you have A tulsa team led by a veteran 1370 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 6: head coach And Eric, conkle who you, know this is 1371 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 6: everything for them. 1372 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 3: To win a. 1373 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 6: Championship SO i think it's going to Be its going 1374 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,799 Speaker 6: to be a fun, battle BUT i think Ultimately auburn 1375 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 6: is the better team on the. 1376 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Floor is it odd for you to be In indie 1377 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: working and staying in a hotel and not just living? 1378 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 6: Here, yes very. Strange and also because people ask me 1379 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 6: where SHOULD i? Go what SHOULD i? Do first of, 1380 01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,719 Speaker 6: all has changed a lot SINCE i left in twenty 1381 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 6: two in a good. Way second of, all there's like 1382 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,600 Speaker 6: parks THAT i just like because you live, here you just, 1383 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 6: like don't go to certain. Places And i'm over on 1384 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 6: like more Monument circle side Where i'm saying right, Now 1385 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 6: BUT i lived right off Mass, apps SO i was, 1386 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 6: LIKE i didn't come except WHEN i was working to 1387 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 6: like this side as, much you know WHAT i. Mean 1388 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 6: it's just so. Interesting but it's nice to be. Back but, 1389 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 6: yeah you, KNOW i walked by my apartment today AND 1390 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 6: i was, like kind of WISH i still have had 1391 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 6: a room. 1392 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 1: There did it make you? Sad be, honest did it 1393 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: make you? 1394 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 7: Sad? 1395 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 6: Yeah a little, bit it does BECAUSE i love this. 1396 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 6: Place this place meant a lot to me AND i 1397 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 6: wouldn't be WHERE i am without, it that's for darm. 1398 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 6: Sure but it was really cool yesterday just being, back 1399 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 6: and you, know being At, butler you See John deadman 1400 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 6: and you, know the wonderful sid there and The Athletic 1401 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 6: department and just just a ton of people and even 1402 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 6: ushers And Chuck lofton was, there you, know legendary meteorologists AS. 1403 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 6: Thhr so it was just cool to see like those 1404 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,640 Speaker 6: familiar faces because it really does feel like home to. 1405 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 6: Me so pretty cool and it's nice to just walk. 1406 01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 6: Around it's actually warm. 1407 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 1: Out, No i'm just hoping it doesn't, rain but you, 1408 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: know concerts and everything else going. On Taylor tannabaum is our. 1409 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Guests should we be on the call For tulsa And 1410 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 1: AUBURN N Championship Gamebridge Field House SUNDAY. Espn you, Also, 1411 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 1: taylor work with THE Acc network, Primarily so allow me 1412 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 1: to ask this if The, pacers you, know obviously you 1413 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: know the, Scenario indiana is trying to make sure that 1414 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 1: they stay within one of those top four picks if 1415 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 1: they were to not be in the top. Two BECAUSE 1416 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 1: i do think we don't know, this but let's just 1417 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,800 Speaker 1: say for the sake of the discussion That devonsa And 1418 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 1: peterson in some form are one and, two and The 1419 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 1: pacers have a situation where It's Caleb wilson or it 1420 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: Is Cam, boozer that would be and you, know a 1421 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: cuff maybe in the discussion as. Well but from the 1422 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: acc standpoint of those, Two Boozer, wilson which one do 1423 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 1: you think is more intriguing as AN nba? 1424 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,479 Speaker 3: Prospect that's. 1425 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 6: INTERESTING i think you know a lot more About Cam 1426 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 6: boozer at this. Point he's definitely going to have, to you, 1427 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 6: know elevate his, game and he knows. That and he's 1428 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 6: as good as they, get like he can do it. 1429 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 6: All and he's grown up in an incredible household with 1430 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 6: a wonderful mom AND cc and of Course God, Carlos 1431 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 6: so he has every tool in his toolbox to be 1432 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 6: the ULTIMATE nba player and he's going to play for 1433 01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 6: a long. Time Caleb wilson is a little bit rougher 1434 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 6: around the, edges, right and we didn't get to see 1435 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 6: him on the back end of the, season but, man 1436 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 6: he's impossible to take your eyes off of when he's out. 1437 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 6: There he's an, energizer. Bunny he's a great teammate and, 1438 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 6: truthfully the ultimate, Competitor like he saves every receipt anyone 1439 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,680 Speaker 6: who's ever doubted, Him and to be, HONEST i don't 1440 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 6: think he got talked about enough this season because this 1441 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 6: freshman class was so star, studded you can't go wrong 1442 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,559 Speaker 6: with either of. THEM i think people would be thrilled 1443 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 6: With Cam boozer because you know a lot more about 1444 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 6: him than what he can bring to the. Table you 1445 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 6: know the Name Caleb. Wilson you're going to be sat 1446 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 6: in a seat At gamebridge if he's on the. 1447 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 4: Floor is he? 1448 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,360 Speaker 1: Is And i'm talking About. Wilson Is Caleb wilson a 1449 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 1: more of like the finesse wing defender guy or is 1450 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: he more the holy cow he just took off from 1451 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: the block And Sean kemp forced. 1452 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 6: Guy honestly both honestly. Both he can do a little 1453 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 6: bit of. Everything and, AGAIN i think his ceiling is is. 1454 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 6: HIGH i don't think he's even reached that. Potential AND i, 1455 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 6: think you, know you put a couple pounds a muscle on, 1456 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 6: him get him in the weight room a little. MORE 1457 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 6: i think he's the ultimate prospect and there's just like 1458 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 6: so much the left to be. Desired, LIKE i think 1459 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 6: there's just so much less on the table that he 1460 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 6: can add to his. Game and it's really for, me 1461 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 6: it's it's the. Intangible but, yeah he can he can, 1462 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 6: defend but it's you know he's at at some point 1463 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,760 Speaker 6: before he got hurt led the country in dunks like 1464 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,560 Speaker 6: this is a guy who can do, everything and he 1465 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 6: Led carolina to where they were this, season and they 1466 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 6: were a different team without, him. 1467 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Well, TAYLOR i hope you get a little slice 1468 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,600 Speaker 1: of home while you're. Here and, AGAIN i know it's not, 1469 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 1: home but to those of us that live, here we 1470 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,600 Speaker 1: consider it to be part of your home because you 1471 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: made it home here for a while and you were 1472 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: certainly a part of the fabric of all of. It 1473 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 1: AND i appreciate you squeezing in a little time and 1474 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 1: enjoy enjoy On sunday being on that call At Gambridge Field. 1475 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 6: House it'll be. Awesome if anyone's, here it's going to 1476 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,640 Speaker 6: be a great. Game SO i hope some people come, 1477 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 6: out AND i do want to know. IT i already 1478 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,440 Speaker 6: had my cluster. Truck oh appreciate. That there You, god 1479 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 6: we ordered it To we ordered it To, hankle so 1480 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 6: everyone got a nice. Taste it was. Great and, somehow you, 1481 01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:31,640 Speaker 6: GUYS i just snuck into THE nabc. CONVENTION i got to. 1482 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 6: Pass and Also i'm currently an assistant coach somewhere nobody 1483 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 6: needs to know wear. 1484 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 1: Though all you got to, Do, taylor just so you 1485 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 1: know two. Things, First, Off, eddie she can get a 1486 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: discount At Cluster truck by using what coch. 1487 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 2: Code big fan five dollars off twenty five. 1488 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,800 Speaker 1: For more And, taylor, AMAZING i will be doing that 1489 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: if you are at THE nabc that's The National association 1490 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 1: Of Basketball. Coaches If i'm not, mistaken, right you've got 1491 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,639 Speaker 1: to walk around in a sweatsuit that has nineteen, logos 1492 01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,840 Speaker 1: and all you got to do you walk past, anybody you, go, hey, 1493 01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: coach you good? Coach you? Good, yeah, good good, coach 1494 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 1: good sceneing. Coach and then you keep. 1495 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 6: Walking coach always, coach always flies. 1496 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,280 Speaker 1: You good, coach that's. Right you just, say are you good? 1497 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Coach and every coach is. Good, yeah now we're. Good, 1498 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 1: yeah just got, fired but, good everything's. Good, okay good, 1499 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,720 Speaker 1: coach good scenior. Coach all, Right, taylor we'll let you 1500 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,640 Speaker 1: get back to the to the coaches. 1501 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,400 Speaker 6: There, Right thanks, guys AND i hope to see you 1502 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:19,760 Speaker 6: While i'm. 1503 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: Here look out For Eddie. WHITE i guarantee he's walking. 1504 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 1: Around good coaching, people glad. Handed all, Right, taylor will. 1505 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 1: SEE i appreciate. 1506 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 3: It. 1507 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 1: Taylor you see right there in the background and you, 1508 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,439 Speaker 1: hear you can hear somebody good, Coach you good. Coach 1509 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,920 Speaker 1: i'm good. Coach you know exactly how that. Works. Yep Michael, 1510 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: shrewsbury by the, way one of those coaches that probably 1511 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: is here for that. 1512 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 2: Convention you're going to do that to. Him, hey, coach 1513 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:41,599 Speaker 2: you good. 1514 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 3: Coach. 1515 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,160 Speaker 1: Coach that's exactly How i'm going to do. It he 1516 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 1: is set to join us tentatively in about. Fifteen. Uh 1517 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 1: somebody actually just sent me a, Text, nick very kind 1518 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 1: text about enjoying the, show and he he came up 1519 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,640 Speaker 1: with the phrase THAT i think has staying. POWER i 1520 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,640 Speaker 1: think it's got oomph to. It you read you ready for? 1521 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 3: It? 1522 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: YEAH i love, listening he, Says jake to, you and big, 1523 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:18,640 Speaker 1: heady it's pretty, solid pretty. Solid. Right here's the. 1524 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 2: PROBLEM i don't Know. Nick nick doesn't know me other 1525 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 2: than my, Voice. 1526 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Eddie how Can? Nick, NO i actually do have a big. Head, 1527 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,720 Speaker 1: well you've confessed to. It WHEN i asked one time 1528 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,000 Speaker 1: on the air what size hat you? Wear you said 1529 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 1: eight and seven eighths AND i, went holy, cow do 1530 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 1: you have a red? Storm also or. 1531 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 2: Rings it's actually eight and five. 1532 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 1: Eighths, okay, sorry my. Apologies here here's the. Thing this 1533 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 1: is WHAT i love about this. Show and you you 1534 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: don't AND i don't mean this condescendingly WHEN i say 1535 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,719 Speaker 1: you don't realize, This BUT i do hope that people realize. 1536 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,560 Speaker 1: This if they listen to the, show then they know 1537 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:07,639 Speaker 1: us because we're pretty much authentically that we're Not we're 1538 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 1: not playing. CHARACTERS i, mean we're We this is who we, are, 1539 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: Right it's. TRUE i mean you, know we don't come 1540 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 1: on here and like flip a switch and like turn 1541 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 1: on an. Act it's like this is that's the beauty 1542 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,759 Speaker 1: of it. Is we're just dudes hanging around talking. Sports, 1543 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,200 Speaker 1: right speaking of, which we have The Major League baseball 1544 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: wager between. Us we haven't checked in in a while on. 1545 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: This we just checked in earlier this, week didn't, WE i, 1546 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: Think BUT i can't remember which teams you. HAD i 1547 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,680 Speaker 1: so our listener had The giants and The a's and 1548 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,640 Speaker 1: ACTUALLY i think it is The giants have started to 1549 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,599 Speaker 1: pick things up a little. 1550 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 4: Bit. 1551 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,360 Speaker 1: Here the way we do, this each of us got 1552 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 1: to pick two teams and we take the cumulative win 1553 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 1: total these are amongst the teams that were forecast to 1554 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,720 Speaker 1: have eighty two or fewer wins on the. YEAR i 1555 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 1: took The guardians and The White. SOX i take The 1556 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 1: White sox every, year despite the fact they're, terrible BECAUSE 1557 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 1: i have a tradition Where shannon AND i go To 1558 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: White sox game a. Year, eddie do you remember the 1559 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 1: teams that you? 1560 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,200 Speaker 2: TOOK i KNOW i took The Pittsburgh. Pirates, OKAY i 1561 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 2: cannot remember who the other TEAM i. Chose believe the 1562 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 2: other you had was The. Diamondbacks but let me check 1563 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 2: that sounds. Right, yeah that sounds. 1564 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:23,679 Speaker 1: Right allow me to look. Here let's see you would 1565 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Think i'd Have, okay here we. Go you had The 1566 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,800 Speaker 1: pirates and The. Diamondbacks. Correct, okay so The pirates have three, 1567 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Wins diamondbacks at. Three so you're sitting on. Six not 1568 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: doing too, bad. RIGHT i know you've actually picked it 1569 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,800 Speaker 1: up a little. Bit here The giants have three. Wins 1570 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 1: The athletics just, won so six to. Four i'm sitting 1571 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 1: on The, guardians who have. Four White sox have, One 1572 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 1: so you are currently leading six to. Five. 1573 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,680 Speaker 2: Four i'll look at, that no. 1574 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 1: Surprise, WELL i listen The White. Sox we all. Knew 1575 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm i'm giving this to you by taking. 1576 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,800 Speaker 2: The White, sox, Right, okay they're. 1577 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Terrible yesterday The White sox got rained out with The Blue, 1578 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 1: jays and that's the only reason why they're one in 1579 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 1: five and not one and. Six probably, Right i'm all 1580 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,960 Speaker 1: in on The Blue. Jays be watching a lot Of 1581 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Blue jays. BASEBALL i have you NOW i? Have, yeah 1582 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: you GOT mlb. Plus, Yes well HERE'S i don't know 1583 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:28,240 Speaker 1: this my somehow or another on my. Cable one day 1584 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 1: they sent me this little box thing in the mail 1585 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,559 Speaker 1: AND i plugged it, in and all of a SUDDEN 1586 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 1: i had everything known to, man literally everything known to. 1587 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: Man i'm Watching BANGLADESH baci ball On tuesday. Evenings, really, 1588 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:43,519 Speaker 1: yep are you. 1589 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 2: Trying to become a handicapper for? 1590 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:45,640 Speaker 7: That is? 1591 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 4: That? 1592 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:45,840 Speaker 3: What? 1593 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,760 Speaker 1: NO i Just i'm not one of the degenerates DURING 1594 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 1: covid that was betting On asian. Baseball i've gotten completely 1595 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 1: into The BANGLADES. Bacci it's. 1596 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 2: Fascinating, now how's that different than Like AMERICAN? 1597 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Baci excellent, question excellent. Question just a little more spice 1598 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,559 Speaker 1: and an occasional a lot a, LOT i will say 1599 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,680 Speaker 1: this a lot of, rainouts that's the. Problem a lot of. 1600 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 1: Rainouts so a lot of makeup games things like, that 1601 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 1: but very exciting to. 1602 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,720 Speaker 2: Watch and now they are called, games they're not called 1603 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 2: like matches or meets or anything like. 1604 01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: That they americanize it for this particular app THAT i, 1605 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:25,759 Speaker 1: Have i'm watching on and SO i have access TO MLB. 1606 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,240 Speaker 2: Tv so what other things are ON espn, eight The, oho. 1607 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 1: That's that's the Big, Well, no this is on The, 1608 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Bangales baci is On oh, interesting It's BANG, tv WHICH 1609 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,680 Speaker 1: i think a lot of people end up on that 1610 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,000 Speaker 1: erroneously thinking and they're not Expecting, baci but that's what 1611 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 1: they end up. 1612 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:44,600 Speaker 2: Watching that's how you got on. 1613 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Here, NO i knew THAT i was going for the 1614 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 1: bachi from the get. Go but that is an app 1615 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,519 Speaker 1: though that THAT i think it has thrown a lot 1616 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 1: of people off, Right and then you, know they if 1617 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 1: you don't want to watch it The, bachi then they 1618 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,280 Speaker 1: also have squash and then and that also confuses people 1619 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,760 Speaker 1: because you're watching squash on bang and people can they completely. 1620 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,200 Speaker 2: Now just don't go down to like Southern indiana because 1621 01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:12,800 Speaker 2: then that becomes. 1622 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:18,719 Speaker 1: Squash, correct That's eddie that happens south Of Washington. Street, 1623 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 1: yes SO i HAVE MLB, tv BUT i don't, know 1624 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 1: truth be, told whether this is just like you, know 1625 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,560 Speaker 1: sometimes at the beginning of the year they will do 1626 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,479 Speaker 1: like a trial. RUN i don't know if it's, that 1627 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,280 Speaker 1: or WHEN i agreed to get this new box they 1628 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 1: sent me and plugged it in and then my cable 1629 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 1: went from fourteen dollars a month to two hundred and 1630 01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,479 Speaker 1: ninety a. Month so you, know maybe that's it And 1631 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,040 Speaker 1: i'm paying for it AND i don't realize. That AND 1632 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 1: i don't know how to do a la carte with 1633 01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,880 Speaker 1: this because there are a couple of the apps and 1634 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,560 Speaker 1: channels THAT i don't use on the, regular you know 1635 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean The Food, NETWORK i don't watch the cooking. 1636 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 1: STUFF i don't WATCH tv OR, ahgtv not a. LOT 1637 01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:02,719 Speaker 1: i see Enough bravo just in the. Back And shannon 1638 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 1: likes TO tv really loud because she does stuff throughout 1639 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,800 Speaker 1: the course of the. Day so WHEN, i, oh drives you, 1640 01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 1: nuts what's? 1641 01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 2: THAT i bet that it. 1642 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Does WHEN i start driving down the street to get 1643 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 1: to our, HOUSE i get about two houses away AND 1644 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 1: i can already hear The Real housewives of Whatever county 1645 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:19,720 Speaker 1: and THEN i walk, In i'm, like what is going 1646 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,360 Speaker 1: on in? Here we just have very sensitive. 1647 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 2: Hearing, no she's not, wrong don't. 1648 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: It what do you mean you have very sensitive? Years that's. 1649 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,280 Speaker 1: Good that's better than going death, Right. 1650 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah that's, Yeah, yeah that's. 1651 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Right how did you know that drives me? 1652 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 2: Crazy BECAUSE i know you. 1653 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,080 Speaker 1: See that's because it's just like the listeners of the. 1654 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,560 Speaker 1: Show they you get to know us by listening to 1655 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 1: this program back at the old. 1656 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 2: Studio you know where the floor would, creak that would 1657 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 2: bother you and you. Panic if that was going over the, 1658 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 2: radio it was very, loud except it wasn't going over the. 1659 01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,760 Speaker 1: Ring it sounded like we were doing the show from 1660 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,840 Speaker 1: The adams family. House son is out by the, way 1661 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,479 Speaker 1: peering out a little bit here again if you're just joining. 1662 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Us Big Concerts final four coming up. Tonight it is 1663 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,640 Speaker 1: twenty one Pilots keshi And. Joseph did we figure out 1664 01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 1: the last name For joseph? On we, Did JOEY. V 1665 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,000 Speaker 1: he takes the stage at four thirty right at The 1666 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 1: American Legion mall directly behind where we are right, now 1667 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 1: just to the south of. 1668 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,160 Speaker 2: Us the other question That nick had by the, way 1669 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,439 Speaker 2: on the text, line he said THAT i thought they 1670 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,240 Speaker 2: were playing the ant final At. Hinkle he, Said query 1671 01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,800 Speaker 2: just Mentioned gamebridge for their final On. Sunday which is 1672 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 2: it the An rows playing their semi final games On 1673 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,439 Speaker 2: hinkle last. Night the championship game is On, Sunday Easter, 1674 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 2: sunday along With division two And division three At. Gamership, 1675 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 2: yes At, gamebridge, yes so. 1676 01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 4: All. 1677 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Yes my apologies THAT i didn't clarify, that AND i 1678 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 1: To nick's defense last night WHEN i turned on and 1679 01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:57,280 Speaker 1: watched some of the, GAME i said To, SHANNON i, go, 1680 01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 1: yeah this is A, gamebridge And she's, like that's Not, 1681 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 1: gamebridge and Then i'm, like, well, wait this Is, Hinkle 1682 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 1: and then it dawned on. Me, okay the semis are 1683 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,440 Speaker 1: At hinkle and then the championship will move To gamebridge 1684 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,000 Speaker 1: and that's how that pans. 1685 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,000 Speaker 2: Itself and one ticket will get you into all three, 1686 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,200 Speaker 2: games which is. 1687 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Really, cool right this From. Nick. GUYS i also have 1688 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: a very large, head but not like big. Heady big 1689 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 1: heady is great what a. NICKNAME i, mean you got 1690 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: the big hurt Yet i'm trying to think of other 1691 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 1: other nicknames that begin with, big but Big heady is. 1692 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:35,679 Speaker 1: Fabulous he actually said big Head, eddie AND i morphed 1693 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:40,439 Speaker 1: it into Big. Heady you should trademark That. Eddie it's 1694 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,439 Speaker 1: a very arduous. Process there wasn't there a band name 1695 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:47,840 Speaker 1: that Big Head todd in The. Monsters, yes graduates Of 1696 01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Columnde High school In, denver thank you TO i told 1697 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 1: You shannon went to high school with. Him her brother 1698 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,800 Speaker 1: was really good friends With. TODD i said what was he? 1699 01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,479 Speaker 1: Like and she said cool. Guy and then the band 1700 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,599 Speaker 1: took off and he changed a little. Bit apparently got 1701 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of a big. 1702 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 2: Head this is From Pete damel And Jeff borzello OF. 1703 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 2: Espn arizona head Coach Tommy lloyd has agreed to a 1704 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,920 Speaker 2: new deal to remain At. Arizona he announced that it's 1705 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,639 Speaker 2: a five year deal With Tommy, lloyd making him one 1706 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,599 Speaker 2: of the five highest pig coaches in college. 1707 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,839 Speaker 1: Basketball so we can squorsh that. Rumor So North carolina 1708 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 1: back to the drawing, board it would seem. Right Micah 1709 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,040 Speaker 1: shrewsbury is the head coach At Notre dame and is 1710 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:32,840 Speaker 1: set to join us next two o'clock hour In. Indianapolis 1711 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 1: for that, matter it's the two o'clock hour everywhere in 1712 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,880 Speaker 1: The eastern time. Zone my name Is Jake Querry Eddie. 1713 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 1: Garrison the other voice you hear in this, program we 1714 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 1: call It querry In. Company they had a marketing firm 1715 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,680 Speaker 1: that sat for months coming up with that. Name and 1716 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,480 Speaker 1: of course it Is final four week here In indianapolis 1717 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,840 Speaker 1: and joining us now on the. Program he has just 1718 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,719 Speaker 1: completed his third season as the head coach At Notre, 1719 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,360 Speaker 1: dame after two At Penn state and of course a 1720 01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,840 Speaker 1: number of different programs throughout the state Of. Indiana Michah 1721 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 1: shrewsbury joining us on the. Program we just said that 1722 01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,920 Speaker 1: During final Four, week whenever you see a, coach you 1723 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,639 Speaker 1: walk past and you, go, hey, coach you good. Coach 1724 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,479 Speaker 1: everything good. Coach so therefore that's How i'm going to greet. 1725 01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 1: You you good. COACH i am. 1726 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:12,760 Speaker 3: Good. 1727 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah it's A i'm sitting in the convention center, 1728 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,240 Speaker 7: now so you can imagine the amount of greetings like 1729 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,000 Speaker 7: that that are. Happening, yeah at this moment, currently even 1730 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 7: with me on the, phone. 1731 01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,640 Speaker 1: Every coach wearing a sweatsuit with three different emblems of 1732 01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 1: the school and then carrying a cup of coffee and 1733 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,840 Speaker 1: then saying, hey, Coach you good. Coach that's how it, works. 1734 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,600 Speaker 1: Right so that, said you, know there's a lot that 1735 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,680 Speaker 1: AND i appreciate your, time, man AND i want to 1736 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:41,160 Speaker 1: get to this to, begin and that, is you, know 1737 01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,439 Speaker 1: the opportunity in this. WEEKEND i have always kind of 1738 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:48,880 Speaker 1: considered this like a coaching convention where probably you're you're 1739 01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,680 Speaker 1: maybe picking the brains of some guys or you, KNOW 1740 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 1: i don't know that you're in the situation of staff 1741 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,639 Speaker 1: and that kind of, thing but there are important things 1742 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 1: that can take place this. Weekend what is from a coaching, 1743 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:05,680 Speaker 1: perspective the OVERALL i guess significance of being here and 1744 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,720 Speaker 1: the things that can come out of this weekend if 1745 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,479 Speaker 1: you are not coaching in, it, YEAH. 1746 01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,639 Speaker 7: I think you, know for, us this is our coach's, convention, 1747 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 7: Right so a lot of personal development. Happens but you, 1748 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 7: also as at different levels you'd grow to as a, 1749 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:27,120 Speaker 7: coach there's different involvement in each. Thing so you, know 1750 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 7: as a young, coach, yeah you're getting here for the first. 1751 01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 7: Time maybe you're doing some of the clinics or watching 1752 01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,800 Speaker 7: some of the coaches. Present maybe you're you, know trying 1753 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,120 Speaker 7: to see who's got A ga job and you're tracking 1754 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,080 Speaker 7: down a head coach to talk to. Him but as 1755 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 7: you get a little older, now like you, know this 1756 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 7: is my like you, said fifty year now as a head, 1757 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 7: Coach i'm on THE nabc. Board so sitting in meetings, 1758 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 7: yesterday going through meetings today with THE NC doublea And 1759 01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,600 Speaker 7: Ethics coalition and head coaches, meetings we're talking abowl a 1760 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 7: lot of issues that are affecting our game and how 1761 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 7: can we as coaches do what we need to do 1762 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,720 Speaker 7: to help change Those, okay you. 1763 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,560 Speaker 1: Just walked right in, perfectly, coach AND i appreciate it 1764 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,160 Speaker 1: to one of the things THAT i thought you would 1765 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 1: be an excellent resource to, discuss and that is just 1766 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,160 Speaker 1: AND i don't think it's necessarily always a bad, thing 1767 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,720 Speaker 1: but the reality is that there are these wins of 1768 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 1: change that are sweeping through college. Basketball between the portal 1769 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 1: and when the portal should, open the nil, money you, 1770 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 1: know whether or not that should be governed or, CAPPED i, 1771 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,880 Speaker 1: mean all kinds of things that are going. On from your, 1772 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:41,000 Speaker 1: perspective what would you say is the biggest challenge facing 1773 01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,000 Speaker 1: college basketball? 1774 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:47,280 Speaker 7: TODAY i think the biggest challenge that we have is 1775 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:52,799 Speaker 7: and this has been not just today but throughout college, 1776 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,760 Speaker 7: basketball there's a there's a lot of bad actors that 1777 01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 7: are still involved in it that are driving a lot 1778 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,720 Speaker 7: of the, issues, right maybe driving a lot of the 1779 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,720 Speaker 7: transfers or driving a lot of the nil issues that 1780 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 7: we're trying to. Eliminate but it's probably never going to 1781 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,639 Speaker 7: happen because it you, know before all this, happened these 1782 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:16,439 Speaker 7: guys were still. 1783 01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 1: Involved so mercenaries. 1784 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,760 Speaker 7: That are in their media as, yes, yeah so they've 1785 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:27,960 Speaker 7: always been, there but now they're they're wearing different name 1786 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 7: tags in what they're. Doing so how do we we 1787 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 7: help to do what we need to do to take 1788 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 7: care of these guys and keep the focus on the, game, 1789 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:42,320 Speaker 7: Right like we changed the date of the transfer, portal and, 1790 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,639 Speaker 7: like you, KNOW i love the freedom that these guys, 1791 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 7: Have but how about celebrating the season that college basketball has. 1792 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,280 Speaker 7: Had this is going to be one of the most 1793 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,680 Speaker 7: one of the best seasons from start to finish that 1794 01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,400 Speaker 7: we've had in a long, time a tremendous, fine four 1795 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,840 Speaker 7: four great, teams and that championship is gonna end On, 1796 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,720 Speaker 7: monday and all the talk is going to go to 1797 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,760 Speaker 7: the chaos that's gonna start On tuesday instead of us 1798 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,560 Speaker 7: celebrating what great season we just. 1799 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,200 Speaker 1: Had which of these four teams do you feel has 1800 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,320 Speaker 1: the fewest? Flaws? 1801 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,720 Speaker 7: Wow you, KNOW i think you know a lot of 1802 01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,240 Speaker 7: people will probably say. THIS i Think ukon And illinois 1803 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,560 Speaker 7: are really, good AND i think that's gonna be an unbelievable. 1804 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:29,640 Speaker 7: GAME i think The Michigan arizona game is going to 1805 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 7: be points galore because of the way they're going to 1806 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,720 Speaker 7: attack each, other attack the, rim get to the free throw. 1807 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 3: LINE i just think with you, Know michigan. 1808 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:46,439 Speaker 7: Size and, depth the teamwork that they play, with you, 1809 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,240 Speaker 7: KNOW i think they are the team that probably has 1810 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:49,879 Speaker 7: the fewest. 1811 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 1: Flaws the you, know in looking at and obviously coaching 1812 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,960 Speaker 1: through in the league you're, in you see you know 1813 01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 1: you didn't, See AND i don't recall if you saw 1814 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: any of these four directly you, Obviously i'm assuming So 1815 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:04,960 Speaker 1: duke And carolina both over the course of the. Year 1816 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,720 Speaker 1: carolina didn't get. In but the REASON i, asked did 1817 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,800 Speaker 1: you see AND i should be looking at the schedule right, 1818 01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,479 Speaker 1: now did you have or did you See Caleb wilson 1819 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 1: before he was? 1820 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:18,680 Speaker 3: Hurt we, did, yes, yes, no we played. Him he was. 1821 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,799 Speaker 7: Tremendous had an unbelievable, year had a great game AGAINST, 1822 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,720 Speaker 7: us and it was actually noteworthy BECAUSE i you, KNOW 1823 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,000 Speaker 7: i was on the staff of THE. 1824 01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 3: Usa basketball in the summer and he was one of 1825 01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:33,200 Speaker 3: the guys that had gotten. 1826 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:37,080 Speaker 7: Cut and after the game he shook my hand and, said, 1827 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,480 Speaker 7: coach thanks for motivating. 1828 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,640 Speaker 3: ME i was, like, HEY i don't think you needed that. 1829 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:45,120 Speaker 1: Motivation is he a we were the REASON i, Asked 1830 01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,200 Speaker 1: michah is just on a side, note you, know obviously 1831 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,479 Speaker 1: assuming that he goes in to the, draft we don't 1832 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,080 Speaker 1: know that. Yet but he And cam buse are both 1833 01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 1: are players that would be in the mix For indiana 1834 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,320 Speaker 1: should hold onto one of its top four. Picks AND 1835 01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,040 Speaker 1: i think we have a pretty good idea of what 1836 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,519 Speaker 1: kind of Player Cam boozer. Is there seems to be 1837 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,600 Speaker 1: more enigma Around Caleb wilson because of the. Injury is 1838 01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,680 Speaker 1: he a down low force player or or more of a, 1839 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,360 Speaker 1: wing you, know kind of the THREE d guard. Guy 1840 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:13,320 Speaker 1: which way do you see? 1841 01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,240 Speaker 3: Him, yeah he's a little mix of. 1842 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:21,679 Speaker 7: Both you, know didn't shoot a lot of, threes didn't 1843 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,040 Speaker 7: didn't shoot a ton of, threes you, know made, some 1844 01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,719 Speaker 7: but wasn't a high volume, guy didn't shoot a great. 1845 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:32,280 Speaker 7: Percentage that kind of happened some with. Freshmen but he 1846 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:36,320 Speaker 7: faces the basket a, lot so you, know whether that 1847 01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 7: was through a post up. 1848 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,599 Speaker 3: Near the, block off the, block out near the three point. 1849 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:41,640 Speaker 3: Line he handles the. 1850 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:47,320 Speaker 7: Ball he's very fast and electric with his, athleticism you, 1851 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:48,720 Speaker 7: know finishing way above the. 1852 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,320 Speaker 3: Rim but he can score with his back to the. 1853 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,679 Speaker 7: Basket he's a good. Passer he And Henry vassar played 1854 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,720 Speaker 7: a lot of high low, together SO i think THE 1855 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,639 Speaker 7: nba game is gonna sue him because of his, speed 1856 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,960 Speaker 7: his ability to handle the ball and. Pass he'll have 1857 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 7: more space to play with as well at the next. 1858 01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,479 Speaker 1: Level Michael shrewsbury is my guest to head basketball coach 1859 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,280 Speaker 1: At Notre. Dame, coach, OBVIOUSLY i know this year and 1860 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,720 Speaker 1: you had, injury there's no doubt about, that and the 1861 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,760 Speaker 1: year probably did not go as you are hoping or. 1862 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:22,120 Speaker 1: Anticipated now that you've been through three seasons At Notre, 1863 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,720 Speaker 1: dame how do you assess just the way this year 1864 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 1: went and where your program kind of goes from. 1865 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:32,439 Speaker 7: Here, yeah you, know obviously we were disappointed in how 1866 01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:36,080 Speaker 7: we finished this, season so we're looking forward to getting 1867 01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,960 Speaker 7: back and getting going, again and you, know injuries were 1868 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:39,720 Speaker 7: a huge part of. 1869 01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,440 Speaker 3: It you, know that's part of college. 1870 01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 7: Basketball right now is being able to build. DEPTH i 1871 01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:50,360 Speaker 7: think some of the teams that you see that are 1872 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 7: able to use either transfer port or nil to a certain, 1873 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,320 Speaker 7: level it's to build their depth to withstand some of 1874 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,840 Speaker 7: those injuries that they have because they have a lot 1875 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 7: of power behind it. Still so, uh you, know you've 1876 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,200 Speaker 7: got to have good, Fortunes you've got to be able 1877 01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,240 Speaker 7: to continue to play the game the right. Way so 1878 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:14,600 Speaker 7: that's something for us as we continue to move. Forward you, 1879 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,160 Speaker 7: know we're chomping at the bit to be better and get. 1880 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 7: Better and that's something that you, know The Notre dame fans, 1881 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 7: deserve and that's something that every single, day that's What 1882 01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 7: i'm pushing. Towards and you, know we're hoping that next 1883 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,639 Speaker 7: year is going to be our best year. 1884 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,719 Speaker 1: Yet were you surprised or could you kind of illuminate 1885 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:37,760 Speaker 1: us on the process Of Jalen harroldson excuse, Me Jalen 1886 01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,240 Speaker 1: harrelson going into the transfer portal and just maybe the 1887 01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,400 Speaker 1: conversations that did or did not take place with that 1888 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:43,960 Speaker 1: or what your anticipation is with. 1889 01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:48,799 Speaker 7: It, YEAH i think at this time in college, basketball 1890 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,879 Speaker 7: you're not really surprised with anybody that makes a decision 1891 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,560 Speaker 7: to stay or, go and especially. 1892 01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 1: Go or like. 1893 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,920 Speaker 3: Going leaving is in vogue right. 1894 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,160 Speaker 7: Now if you, know you, look you, know we get 1895 01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,760 Speaker 7: we get the tweets every, day so you're almost immune to. 1896 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:13,000 Speaker 7: It of you know that someone is, leaving it's not a, 1897 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 7: surprise and you know you see great players across the 1898 01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,960 Speaker 7: country that are going to, enter you, know into that 1899 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 7: like you, know for for as a, coach you, know 1900 01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,680 Speaker 7: it's it's disappointing because you put the time into it 1901 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,160 Speaker 7: and you want to see it through and you want 1902 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,040 Speaker 7: to keep developing these. Kids but you, know you want 1903 01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:30,840 Speaker 7: what's best for them at the end of the, day 1904 01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,320 Speaker 7: and if that's what they feel is best for, them 1905 01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,559 Speaker 7: then you let them move forward and keep going towards 1906 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,720 Speaker 7: their career and then you pivot to what's next in 1907 01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,680 Speaker 7: your program and wish them all the. Best and you, 1908 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,000 Speaker 7: KNOW i love coaching. It jalen was a great, kid 1909 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,720 Speaker 7: somebody that we enjoyed being. AROUND i think he's got 1910 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 7: a bright future AND i thought he had a really 1911 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,800 Speaker 7: great year for. US i thought he was gonna have 1912 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,600 Speaker 7: an even better year next, year but unfortunately it just 1913 01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:58,320 Speaker 7: won't be here for. 1914 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 1: Us so you think definitive that means because there are 1915 01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:02,880 Speaker 1: some coaches THAT i don't know if you have this 1916 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:04,720 Speaker 1: line of it of, hey if you throw your name 1917 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,439 Speaker 1: in the, PORTAL i understand, it but there's no coming 1918 01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,760 Speaker 1: back from. That is that a fair statement. 1919 01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,960 Speaker 7: For the most part with everybody right that that's usually 1920 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,720 Speaker 7: how it is because nobody's really, testing. Right it's not 1921 01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:21,680 Speaker 7: the not THE nba, draft where you, know people might 1922 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 7: put it in their statement of you, Know i'm open 1923 01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 7: to coming, back but that pretty rarely. Happens once these 1924 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:32,080 Speaker 7: kids go into the, portal they pretty much, know you, 1925 01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 7: know that they're not coming. Back sometimes they may even 1926 01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,760 Speaker 7: know where that next destination is before the portal's even. 1927 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,880 Speaker 7: Open so you know that that stances is pretty well 1928 01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,280 Speaker 7: known on both sides that you know once you go 1929 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 7: that usually a decision has been. 1930 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,880 Speaker 1: Made, well did you have discussion with them or was 1931 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,719 Speaker 1: it one of those where you got The twitter alert 1932 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:55,240 Speaker 1: like the rest of. 1933 01:46:55,320 --> 01:47:00,920 Speaker 7: Us, No, no there's these these conversations have, happened you 1934 01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:05,559 Speaker 7: know between you know, us our, Staff jalen his family 1935 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:11,120 Speaker 7: are general, manager. Whatever so we had discussions about. It 1936 01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 7: we had talked about. IT i think every coach gets a, 1937 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,320 Speaker 7: chance you, know at the end of the year to you, 1938 01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,400 Speaker 7: know kind of say their piece and talk about it 1939 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,960 Speaker 7: and people make. Decisions so it wasn't a surprise that, 1940 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,559 Speaker 7: that you, know WHEN i saw it On twitter, yesterday 1941 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,360 Speaker 7: it was it was not a new, development you. 1942 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,400 Speaker 1: Know i'm curious of. This Michael shrewsbury's my, guest AND 1943 01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,880 Speaker 1: i appreciate the time and the candor coach from a. 1944 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:40,880 Speaker 1: Coach from an outside, perspective what fascinates me is where 1945 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,479 Speaker 1: we are headed in terms of do you build a 1946 01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:49,560 Speaker 1: roster by going portal players first and then complimenting it with. 1947 01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,200 Speaker 1: Freshmen do you build a roster by trying to get 1948 01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,240 Speaker 1: as many homegrown guys that you're maintaining from year to 1949 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,840 Speaker 1: the next and accentuating it with portal or are we 1950 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,800 Speaker 1: entering a world where it literally is going to be 1951 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 1: roster rebuild every single year for every program and just 1952 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,600 Speaker 1: the finding the balance of. That what is your approach to? 1953 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:12,040 Speaker 7: That you know is as you go through it now 1954 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:16,000 Speaker 7: and the more years you get into, IT i think 1955 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,599 Speaker 7: it's pretty much going to look like a portal first 1956 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,240 Speaker 7: thing for everybody. 1957 01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:21,479 Speaker 4: Very. 1958 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,400 Speaker 7: Rare is the days of the you know that we 1959 01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,040 Speaker 7: just saw with The Braden, smith The Fletcher, lawyer The 1960 01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:31,360 Speaker 7: Trey Kaufman, wren The Alex, caravan those guys that have 1961 01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,040 Speaker 7: stayed at one place for four. Years those guys are 1962 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 7: going to be few and far. Between AND i, think you, 1963 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,280 Speaker 7: know who you can keep is really important and there 1964 01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,400 Speaker 7: are going to be some guys like that that can 1965 01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:48,080 Speaker 7: continue to push your culture forward of what you want 1966 01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:51,800 Speaker 7: your program to. Be but this day and age of 1967 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:56,000 Speaker 7: college and the fans getting a chance to know these 1968 01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 7: guys and know who you, know see this guy come 1969 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,360 Speaker 7: in and now you're going to see him at senior. Day, 1970 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 7: now senior day is going to be probably a one 1971 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,320 Speaker 7: year proposition with a lot of these, kids which is 1972 01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:12,160 Speaker 7: which is, sad and it's it's it's different from a 1973 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 7: lot OF us coaches you know where we. Started but 1974 01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,720 Speaker 7: you also have to adapt to what's happening and this 1975 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,439 Speaker 7: is the way of college right, now so you have 1976 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,479 Speaker 7: to adapt and move with. 1977 01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,880 Speaker 1: It what's a realistic number on what it would cost 1978 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 1: and that sounds so bizarre to, say, right but what 1979 01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:32,960 Speaker 1: it would cost to field a team for a year 1980 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:37,080 Speaker 1: in iol money what's a realistic number if you if 1981 01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:38,800 Speaker 1: you looked at. It And i'm not even gonna say 1982 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,400 Speaker 1: For Notre, dame, Right i'm not going to put you 1983 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,639 Speaker 1: in that. Position but if you were under the, gut 1984 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:46,560 Speaker 1: the assumption and a power for conference to be a 1985 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:49,519 Speaker 1: competitive team at realistically you would like to have how 1986 01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,040 Speaker 1: much to spend N I. 1987 01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:55,720 Speaker 7: L, Yeah and you know this is gonna go a 1988 01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,080 Speaker 7: couple of different. Ways BUT i WAS i was talking 1989 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:03,400 Speaker 7: to a rapport or you, know last, week and he 1990 01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,680 Speaker 7: talked about the you, know when this house settlement came 1991 01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:11,000 Speaker 7: through and there was a twenty point five million dollar 1992 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,360 Speaker 7: rev share or that the schools were able to. Do 1993 01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 7: and a couple of years, Ago Ohio state won the 1994 01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,760 Speaker 7: football championship and everybody said they had a twenty two 1995 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:23,760 Speaker 7: million dollar. Roster you, know If Oigo state had a 1996 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,840 Speaker 7: twenty two million dollar roster next, year they could be 1997 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,880 Speaker 7: one of the last teams in the big. 1998 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,439 Speaker 3: Pit so you see how quickly that's. 1999 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:37,479 Speaker 7: Changed basketball is is is getting there and catching up 2000 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:42,680 Speaker 7: really quickly with those. Numbers AND i saw something that 2001 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,160 Speaker 7: somebody put out the other day and and all of 2002 01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:51,240 Speaker 7: these are, yeah some coaches say stuff and it's not exactly. True, yeah, 2003 01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,599 Speaker 7: Estimates but you, know somebody was, saying if you don't 2004 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,519 Speaker 7: have a ten to twelve million dollar. 2005 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:57,000 Speaker 3: Roster. 2006 01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,400 Speaker 7: You know you're you're going to be. Behind AND i 2007 01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,200 Speaker 7: Think Mick cronin said it. Best it's about the haves 2008 01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:08,200 Speaker 7: and the have nots right, now and if you're one 2009 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 7: of the, haves you're in a pretty good. Position if 2010 01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:12,920 Speaker 7: you're one of the have nots right, now you're a 2011 01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,400 Speaker 7: feeder program for the people that do have the. 2012 01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,800 Speaker 1: Resources which one do you feel you are? 2013 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 3: Currently, yep you know, what we we have a great. 2014 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 7: SITUATION i love no her, name and we're going to 2015 01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,400 Speaker 7: be the best that we can. Be BUT i believe 2016 01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,920 Speaker 7: we're one of the have, nots. Right but it's that 2017 01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 7: that goes in a long. Way there's some really good 2018 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,880 Speaker 7: programs that are in the top twenty five that are 2019 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,639 Speaker 7: also in that. WAY i think, it's you, know it's 2020 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:48,600 Speaker 7: moving to a model where there's you, know ten to 2021 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:53,719 Speaker 7: twelve to fifteen schools that you know are doing everything 2022 01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 7: they need to do. Now part of that is you 2023 01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 7: still have you still have to coach your, team, right 2024 01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,880 Speaker 7: you still have to have, Luck you still have to 2025 01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:02,320 Speaker 7: build a. 2026 01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:03,000 Speaker 3: Roster the. 2027 01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:03,320 Speaker 1: Right. 2028 01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:05,840 Speaker 3: Way you got to stay healthy, too, right you got 2029 01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,240 Speaker 3: to stay, healthy. Right all these things give you a better. 2030 01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,520 Speaker 7: Advantage but it doesn't mean you're going to win the national, championship, 2031 01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,160 Speaker 7: Right and it doesn't mean you're going to finish last 2032 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:14,479 Speaker 7: in your. 2033 01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,920 Speaker 3: Conference it just gives you a better chance to one 2034 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:18,240 Speaker 3: or the. 2035 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:21,160 Speaker 1: OTHER i think coach would be donor. Fatigue. ALSO i, 2036 01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:22,560 Speaker 1: mean it's great if you want to go out and 2037 01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,680 Speaker 1: spend twelve million and get that, money but if you're 2038 01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,519 Speaker 1: going back to the same people over and over, saying, 2039 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:29,000 Speaker 1: hey you know what the last point, GUARD i know he, 2040 01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,479 Speaker 1: left but this guy, though now we really got you, know, 2041 01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,719 Speaker 1: eventually it's it's going to be, cyclical, right where people 2042 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:36,560 Speaker 1: go in waves of when they're able to do, it 2043 01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,400 Speaker 1: except for those that have like the big pocket. 2044 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:44,800 Speaker 7: Guys in my, opinion, yeah, YEAH i think it's driven by, excitement, 2045 01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 7: Right like if you are showing that, excitement if they have, 2046 01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,200 Speaker 7: something if you're one of the four teams that are 2047 01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:55,640 Speaker 7: playing here, today because we're all pushing to do. 2048 01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,000 Speaker 3: This if you're one of the four teams that. 2049 01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,600 Speaker 7: Has, that you have that excitement and those fans and 2050 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:05,800 Speaker 7: that those big donor, bases they wanted to continue to come. 2051 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 7: Here they want to continue to help get you. There but, 2052 01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:14,400 Speaker 7: uh if there's no excitement, there it's hard and you 2053 01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:18,160 Speaker 7: know where does it end eventually for for some of 2054 01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,200 Speaker 7: these people that, are you, know writing big checks to help. 2055 01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,720 Speaker 1: You what are your stops along the? Way, COACH i 2056 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 1: believe you you Had Ronald norid as a. PLAYER i 2057 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,519 Speaker 1: believe when you were assistant At, butler but certainly you're 2058 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,240 Speaker 1: familiar with that. Program your overall thoughts on the hire 2059 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:32,920 Speaker 1: Of Ronald norid now to lead The butler? 2060 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:38,479 Speaker 7: Program you, know He ronald's one of my favorite guys 2061 01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,519 Speaker 7: That i've ever, coached And i'm so happy for he 2062 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:46,519 Speaker 7: And butler And grant that he's going to be the 2063 01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,280 Speaker 7: head coach there and he's gonna do a great. Job 2064 01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:53,280 Speaker 7: ron ron has such a big personality that the fans 2065 01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 7: are going to love, Him his players are going to love, 2066 01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:58,960 Speaker 7: him and you, know his teams are gonna play really, 2067 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:04,840 Speaker 7: tough really solid team. Basketball and you, know he's a fundamental. 2068 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,760 Speaker 7: Guy he's played for great, Coaches he's worked for great. 2069 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,960 Speaker 7: Coaches he's gonna play a modern. System you, know his 2070 01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:15,080 Speaker 7: time in THE nba with The, pacers with The Atlanta. 2071 01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,280 Speaker 7: Hawks he's going to play a system that kids are 2072 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,040 Speaker 7: going to love and want to play. In So i'm 2073 01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,080 Speaker 7: excited for him And i'm excited to see what he can. 2074 01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:23,719 Speaker 3: Do with The butler. 2075 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:25,240 Speaker 1: Program did you inquire about that? 2076 01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:30,719 Speaker 7: Job ye, Know, No i'd love everything about this, place, 2077 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:34,480 Speaker 7: Man BUT i also love the challenge. That you, know 2078 01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,240 Speaker 7: things haven't gone great for us here At Notre dame 2079 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,200 Speaker 7: in the last three, years but you, KNOW i haven't given. 2080 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:42,400 Speaker 3: Up i'm fired. 2081 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:46,240 Speaker 7: Up LIKE i said To let's keep, Going let's keep, 2082 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,480 Speaker 7: building let's keep growing BECAUSE i want year four to 2083 01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:52,560 Speaker 7: be the best one we've had and then build from. 2084 01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:56,160 Speaker 1: There so, lastly you got committee meetings and things like, 2085 01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:57,960 Speaker 1: that and it's very obvious why you would be on 2086 01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,240 Speaker 1: committee's coach and why you, would you, know cause you 2087 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,080 Speaker 1: represent what's right about college basketball and the vision of. 2088 01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 1: It what does the weekend look like for you or 2089 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:07,920 Speaker 1: for most coaches when you come in, here other than 2090 01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:09,960 Speaker 1: walking around and just to you, know saying you good. 2091 01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:11,600 Speaker 1: Coach what what all goes into the? 2092 01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 4: Week? 2093 01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, once you, know once we're kind of finished with 2094 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,120 Speaker 7: these like you, Know i've kind of completed my. Duties 2095 01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:23,360 Speaker 7: now it's about getting a chance to uh see some, guys, 2096 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,120 Speaker 7: right see some some former. Players there's a lot of, 2097 01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,160 Speaker 7: players like we talked about The butler, program and you, 2098 01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,600 Speaker 7: KNOW i just stood here a few minutes before we 2099 01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,680 Speaker 7: got on the phone With Matthew, Graves Willie, Veasley sean Van, 2100 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:39,360 Speaker 7: Zant Mike green that are all coaching college basketball guys 2101 01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:43,000 Speaker 7: LIKE Dj bird or you, know guys like that THAT 2102 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,440 Speaker 7: i coached At. Purdue so guys you don't get a 2103 01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,040 Speaker 7: chance to see throughout the. Year we're all busy with 2104 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 7: their own. Programs, uh really connecting with these, guys spending 2105 01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 7: time With Coach painter last, night spending time with some 2106 01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:56,680 Speaker 7: of the guys from. 2107 01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,480 Speaker 3: You, know Our Penn state. Staff so reconnect. 2108 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,760 Speaker 7: Acting with, guys talking about different, things you, know gaining 2109 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,040 Speaker 7: as much information as you can on players that you 2110 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:11,880 Speaker 7: could be recruiting next. Week so that, socialization being able 2111 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,160 Speaker 7: to see, guys talk to, guys spend time with the meat, 2112 01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,520 Speaker 7: dinner and then everybody kind of get together and watch 2113 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,840 Speaker 7: the games and you, know the greatest host city that 2114 01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:23,920 Speaker 7: we have for The final. 2115 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:28,560 Speaker 1: Four, COACH i appreciate the time as always and certainly 2116 01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,360 Speaker 1: wish you the best of luck up At Notre dame 2117 01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:33,720 Speaker 1: and also just enjoying everything that comes with this particular. 2118 01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,040 Speaker 1: Weekend appreciate having you back on in your hometown. 2119 01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:39,040 Speaker 3: Here, yeah thank, you, guys appreciate. 2120 01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:42,240 Speaker 1: It Michael shrewsbury joining us From Notre. Dame really really interesting, 2121 01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 1: stuff especially about the nil and the portal And harrelson 2122 01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,600 Speaker 1: and all of. It really really good. Conversation much. Appreciated 2123 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,320 Speaker 1: by the. Way it is A, friday you know what that. 2124 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:53,600 Speaker 1: Means it means it is time for A franciscan health feel, 2125 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,440 Speaker 1: good good for the Hard, friday Which i'll be doing 2126 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,240 Speaker 1: in just a couple of. Minutes but a reminder one 2127 01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:00,520 Speaker 1: of the things THAT i think in a couple of 2128 01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,240 Speaker 1: weeks we're going to talk more about it. Again AND 2129 01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:06,560 Speaker 1: i know THAT i mentioned this a, lot but you, 2130 01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:11,320 Speaker 1: know when it comes to heart, health and you know this, 2131 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,400 Speaker 1: WEEKEND i mean we joked about it right twice The 2132 01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:18,360 Speaker 1: Braylen mullen shot THE i, mentioned you, know as you 2133 01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:22,040 Speaker 1: were watching the rocket launch In. Florida you, know at 2134 01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:23,880 Speaker 1: times we use that, TERM i call man my heart 2135 01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,680 Speaker 1: skipped a beat or my heart was, racing those kinds of. 2136 01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 1: Things those are euphemisms we use within. CULTURE i get. 2137 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,800 Speaker 1: It and for a man's standpoint that the warning signs 2138 01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:38,600 Speaker 1: are pretty. Obvious if there's a heart challenge or. Issue you, 2139 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:40,760 Speaker 1: know you start, sweating your left arm goes in my, 2140 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,200 Speaker 1: case left arm what totally. Numb you get that feeling 2141 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,280 Speaker 1: of like a warm water in your. Sternam all of 2142 01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,600 Speaker 1: those things can can lead to the factor show that 2143 01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,040 Speaker 1: you're having a heart. Attack for, women it's, different the 2144 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 1: symptoms are. Different they it's a little more. Silent and you, 2145 01:57:56,200 --> 01:58:02,000 Speaker 1: know cardiovascular heart disease is a leading cause of fatality 2146 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,680 Speaker 1: for women in The United, states AND i know it's 2147 01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:08,800 Speaker 1: really important To Franciscan health to continue raise to raise 2148 01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,520 Speaker 1: awareness about, that and SO i think a couple weeks 2149 01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:12,880 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to one of the doctors From 2150 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,840 Speaker 1: franciscan about that to make sure that if you are 2151 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,080 Speaker 1: one of our forty one female listeners that you are, 2152 01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:22,040 Speaker 1: aware but also gentlemen, listening you, know whether it be your, 2153 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:26,680 Speaker 1: daughter your, wife your, mom your, sister your, coworker to 2154 01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:31,040 Speaker 1: be aware also of women and heart. Health and speaking Of, 2155 01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,480 Speaker 1: franciscan by the, way they are going to be on 2156 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 1: site as part of Our Franciscan Health golf out In april, 2157 01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 1: thirtieth The Legends Golf club down In franklin one oh seven. 2158 01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,640 Speaker 1: Five thefan dot com is the website where you can 2159 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:44,560 Speaker 1: get all of the. Information sign, up whether it's for 2160 01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,360 Speaker 1: an individual or for a, foursome and they will be 2161 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,920 Speaker 1: there on site doing health, screenings answering your. Questions we'll 2162 01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:54,080 Speaker 1: all be there as, well and Even eddie will be. 2163 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,160 Speaker 1: THERE i, Think, eddie you're going to be. 2164 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,040 Speaker 2: THERE i might, BE i might Be. JAKE i need 2165 01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,560 Speaker 2: to figure out If i'm producing the show or. 2166 01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:03,800 Speaker 1: Not you should be able to produce on. Site no. 2167 01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,680 Speaker 1: COMMENT i, mean were you there last? 2168 01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:08,280 Speaker 3: YEAR i was. 2169 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:09,040 Speaker 7: NOT i was. 2170 01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,400 Speaker 1: Here did you have? FOMO i? 2171 01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:11,680 Speaker 7: Did? 2172 01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:17,160 Speaker 1: Okay fair enough either. Way april. THIRTIETH i think we'll 2173 01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 1: try to make sure That eddie's, there comes by and 2174 01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,560 Speaker 1: makes a. Cameo people need to see the big head. 2175 01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,520 Speaker 1: Themselves but we. Will AND i know that That's john's 2176 01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:27,920 Speaker 1: son's nickname, also but we'll be. There april. Thirtieth Franciscan 2177 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:32,600 Speaker 1: Health Feel Good good for The Heart friday. Next Franciscan 2178 01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:37,120 Speaker 1: health is number one In indiana when it comes to cardiovascular, 2179 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:43,520 Speaker 1: care number one for interventional coroner or interventional cardiological. Care 2180 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,520 Speaker 1: basically when it comes to your, Heart franciscan is the 2181 01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:51,880 Speaker 1: place and just a forty nine dollars heart scan can 2182 01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,720 Speaker 1: be all the difference in the. World forty nine dollars 2183 01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:58,000 Speaker 1: for a heart, SCAN a heart SCAN i WISH i 2184 01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:03,240 Speaker 1: could talk today From. Franciscan it's non, invasive does not 2185 02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:06,400 Speaker 1: take a long time to. Do you can pay out 2186 02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:09,400 Speaker 1: a pocket self refer and get that heart health risk 2187 02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:13,280 Speaker 1: assessment that comes with it From. Franciscan and each and 2188 02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Every friday we talk about something that is a feel 2189 02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:19,560 Speaker 1: good story in the world of, sport and one of 2190 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,760 Speaker 1: them really kind of came to us over the course 2191 02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:26,120 Speaker 1: of this. Week you, know we've talked about athletes that 2192 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:31,800 Speaker 1: have overcome. Challenges we've talked about athletes that have had 2193 02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 1: adversity suddenly find them at the least opportune. Time and 2194 02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:45,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about those that maybe weren't even able to 2195 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,200 Speaker 1: get involved in sport and found their own way to 2196 02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:49,960 Speaker 1: make a, contribution or. 2197 02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,400 Speaker 2: Those who have defeated the odds that were against them 2198 02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:52,760 Speaker 2: and their. 2199 02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:56,760 Speaker 1: RECOVERY, yep a number of different things we've talked, about 2200 02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,800 Speaker 1: and then you get those that are kind of story 2201 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:04,360 Speaker 1: that you feel good about it and you pull for 2202 02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:08,240 Speaker 1: it because you realize it's just good people that are 2203 02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:11,640 Speaker 1: finding their own way by staying true to who they. 2204 02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Are so, imagine if you, will that you are an 2205 02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:22,920 Speaker 1: athlete playing high school basketball in a smaller, town a 2206 02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:26,880 Speaker 1: community of just over five thousand. PEOPLE i, mean that's 2207 02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,760 Speaker 1: your entire town is smaller than, say or close to 2208 02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:33,960 Speaker 1: the same size As Carmel High school Or Ben davis 2209 02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:38,480 Speaker 1: or one of. Those and you're a bigger. Kid so 2210 02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:45,120 Speaker 1: you play, basketball and you're playing basketball because you enjoy the. 2211 02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Game you like the math of, it you like the 2212 02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:53,440 Speaker 1: angles of it in an odd, way and maybe that's 2213 02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:58,240 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know your younger brothers 2214 02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:02,520 Speaker 1: like playing basketball with your watching you. Play but you 2215 02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:07,400 Speaker 1: play at your high school in basketball Crazed, indiana and 2216 02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:13,560 Speaker 1: you're An All state honorable mention. Honoree you're not first 2217 02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Team All, state but you're a, good solid. Player you're 2218 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:21,080 Speaker 1: not on The Indiana All star, team but you are 2219 02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:24,840 Speaker 1: still somebody that your community enjoyed coming and watching play 2220 02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:27,720 Speaker 1: because you're a bigger kid that can shoot, threes and 2221 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:32,800 Speaker 1: you don't get the same accolades or attention that some 2222 02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,520 Speaker 1: of the other kids that you grow up around are 2223 02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:39,720 Speaker 1: getting but you stay true to who you. Are you 2224 02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,880 Speaker 1: stay true to who you, are and you continue to 2225 02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:45,080 Speaker 1: study your, math which you really, like and you can 2226 02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:49,360 Speaker 1: you continue to follow the guidance and the path that 2227 02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:53,440 Speaker 1: your parents laid out for, you and your parents have 2228 02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:58,520 Speaker 1: instilled in you a theological base where you enjoy reading theological, 2229 02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:03,280 Speaker 1: books classical, novels listening To christian. Music and you get 2230 02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:08,520 Speaker 1: the chance to play At Huntington University inaia. Basketball and 2231 02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:12,680 Speaker 1: over the course of three years Playing innaia, basketball you 2232 02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,040 Speaker 1: average a little over twelve points a, game just, shy 2233 02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,400 Speaker 1: have six rebounds a, game but you become a pretty 2234 02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:21,200 Speaker 1: proficient three point. Shooter you knocked out one hundred and fourteen. 2235 02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Threes the opportunity then presents itself after three years of 2236 02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:28,320 Speaker 1: that to go and Play division one basketball at The 2237 02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:32,040 Speaker 1: university Of. Evansville so you go ahead and go To. 2238 02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Evansville and In, evansville now you get even more. Opportunity 2239 02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:41,160 Speaker 1: you start twenty four. Games of the twenty four you, 2240 02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:45,880 Speaker 1: play you're averaging fifteen a. Game you're A Movole Missouri 2241 02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:50,760 Speaker 1: Valley newcomer of The, Year you're the Scholar athlete of the, 2242 02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:55,320 Speaker 1: year and you shoot nearly fifty percent forty eight point 2243 02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:59,040 Speaker 1: four percent from the, field and you continue to shoot those. 2244 02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:05,960 Speaker 1: Threes you get your, degree your degree in From huntington 2245 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that you received in. Mathematics now you are getting a graduate, 2246 02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:14,840 Speaker 1: degree and you still have eligibility for graduate work to 2247 02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:17,360 Speaker 1: play for a, year and you agree to play for 2248 02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:24,440 Speaker 1: The university Of, illinois and your three point shooting continues 2249 02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,800 Speaker 1: to show. Itself At, illinois you're working on a second graduate, 2250 02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:33,720 Speaker 1: degree this one in business. Analytics the other was in theological. 2251 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,400 Speaker 1: Work you have a mathematics degree as. Well you get 2252 02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:41,400 Speaker 1: married to a women's basketball player At, illinois and in 2253 02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:44,280 Speaker 1: addition to, that you become an integral part of a 2254 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:46,800 Speaker 1: team that is now back in your home state in 2255 02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:51,120 Speaker 1: the final. Four that's the journey Of ben Hummerk house Of, Tipton. 2256 02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:56,560 Speaker 1: INDIANA a kid that was probably overlooked and just was 2257 02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,800 Speaker 1: a bigger guy that could shoot threes at an NAIs, 2258 02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:05,560 Speaker 1: cool kind of grew into, himself found, himself found the, 2259 02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:08,560 Speaker 1: confidence but most importantly in the thing THAT i thought 2260 02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:12,880 Speaker 1: was the most impressive about, him stayed true to his, 2261 02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:17,240 Speaker 1: faith stayed true to what it was that was instilled in. 2262 02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:20,680 Speaker 1: Him that kept him, grounded that allowed him to look 2263 02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:24,480 Speaker 1: at the path of where he felt things were supposed 2264 02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:27,920 Speaker 1: to be taking him as opposed to the path that 2265 02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:31,440 Speaker 1: he felt like might have denied him other. Opportunity it 2266 02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:34,000 Speaker 1: wasn't about what he couldn't do or didn't. Do it 2267 02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:37,120 Speaker 1: was about what still laid before. Him and when we 2268 02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:41,520 Speaker 1: talked to him the other day on this, Program Ben 2269 02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:45,840 Speaker 1: hummerkous of The final four Participant illinois fighting A, LINE 2270 02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:49,040 Speaker 1: i talked about all of those things that allowed him 2271 02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:53,680 Speaker 1: to take this unlikely journey From naia to The final. 2272 02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:54,800 Speaker 3: Four far really get into. 2273 02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:55,000 Speaker 4: THAT im. 2274 02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,120 Speaker 8: Happy you've got all the glory for, This for, this 2275 02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:00,160 Speaker 8: WHAT i could say is a lot of this Is 2276 02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:03,960 Speaker 8: scott's grace just continuing to help me to, persevere to, 2277 02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:07,360 Speaker 8: push to, grow to challenge. Myself but then Even god's 2278 02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:11,240 Speaker 8: sovereignty of putting me in positions with great. PEOPLE i, 2279 02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:14,000 Speaker 8: Mean huntington was an incredible experience for me WHERE i 2280 02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:16,840 Speaker 8: got to learn so much about about just how to, 2281 02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,160 Speaker 8: grow how to how to trust the staff around, you 2282 02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:21,440 Speaker 8: how to how to BECOME i, mean even a better basketball, 2283 02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,640 Speaker 8: player but a better. Man and then like the way 2284 02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,000 Speaker 8: THAT i had to adapt and grow At evansville and 2285 02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,440 Speaker 8: then now being here at The university Of illinois where 2286 02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:32,040 Speaker 8: roles may have shifted over my two, years and especially 2287 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,440 Speaker 8: coming From evansville and the way that that, WAS i 2288 02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:36,480 Speaker 8: think a lot of. It so much of my journey 2289 02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:39,520 Speaker 8: is about trusting the staff that's around, you and then 2290 02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:41,800 Speaker 8: being so blessed to play with great people and. 2291 02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:44,600 Speaker 7: So now here with this, team you're able to kind 2292 02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:46,680 Speaker 7: of present to. 2293 02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:51,480 Speaker 8: Them why just being, patient being process, oriented being a team, 2294 02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:54,360 Speaker 8: player and JUST i mean always committing to the day 2295 02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:54,960 Speaker 8: that's in front of. 2296 02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:57,960 Speaker 1: You why that's so Important AND i think that's shown 2297 02:06:58,000 --> 02:06:58,280 Speaker 1: over the. 2298 02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,480 Speaker 3: Season now why late into this and we're. 2299 02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:04,560 Speaker 8: Having incredible success offensively but even especially defensively as we're 2300 02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,760 Speaker 8: playing with an extra connectivity as a. 2301 02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Team really, Impressive AND i, commend totally commend For ben Humrick, 2302 02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:18,640 Speaker 1: house just like he talked about looking forward and not 2303 02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,920 Speaker 1: back and trusting the path that is there before you 2304 02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:26,160 Speaker 1: by staying true to who you. Are great, story and 2305 02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:30,040 Speaker 1: certainly look forward to watching him and clearly and listening 2306 02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:34,280 Speaker 1: to him there regardless of your rooting, interests something that 2307 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you can root for when good things happen to. Him 2308 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:41,360 Speaker 1: in the final four as for looking, forward you can 2309 02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,920 Speaker 1: always and should always continue to do so when it 2310 02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,000 Speaker 1: comes to your health and LIKE i, mentioned the number 2311 02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:48,440 Speaker 1: one heart program In indiana for cardiology by The Health, 2312 02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:51,880 Speaker 1: grades number one In indiana for interventional coordinary care and 2313 02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:55,400 Speaker 1: major cardiac surgery by Care. 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Havebnot and he, said, well right now our. 2339 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Haven when just talking about the overall budgets of everything 2340 02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:30,920 Speaker 1: that goes into, It i'll kind of end by going 2341 02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:32,920 Speaker 1: with WHAT i talked about off the, top and that 2342 02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:36,960 Speaker 1: is it's a special. Weekend it's a special weekend in this. 2343 02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Town and, yeah there are going to be things about. 2344 02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,280 Speaker 1: It there are going to be a. Challenge you, know 2345 02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,760 Speaker 1: the parking situations downtown going to be, tough some of 2346 02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:49,200 Speaker 1: the redirective road's going to be. Tough you've got a 2347 02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:51,760 Speaker 1: huge stage being set up for the concerts that take 2348 02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:55,160 Speaker 1: place starting with twenty one pilots tonight for free at 2349 02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,000 Speaker 1: The American Legion. Mall if you're not familiar with that 2350 02:09:57,160 --> 02:10:00,680 Speaker 1: is that's that huge area between The Indiana War memorial 2351 02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:04,839 Speaker 1: and The Downtown, library and that has been the epicenter 2352 02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:06,840 Speaker 1: of a number of different events in the history of this. 2353 02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Town but with some of the nuisance that can come with, 2354 02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:16,280 Speaker 1: it or just interruptions to your day to, DAY i 2355 02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,480 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's important to think about where we've, come 2356 02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:24,720 Speaker 1: where we've, been and where we've come. Now in nineteen, 2357 02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,840 Speaker 1: eighty when The Final four was At Market Square arena 2358 02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:32,760 Speaker 1: and you were a year removed From bird Versus, magic 2359 02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,440 Speaker 1: and The Final four was becoming a thing culturally speaking 2360 02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:41,760 Speaker 1: within The United states for, certain but it wasn't the 2361 02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:45,240 Speaker 1: event that it is, now and it didn't have the 2362 02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:49,720 Speaker 1: national eyeballs and attention and all of the buzz and 2363 02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:53,720 Speaker 1: atmosphere like it does. Now you, know when the nineteen 2364 02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:55,920 Speaker 1: Eighty Final four was, HERE i remember one of the 2365 02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:01,000 Speaker 1: bigger like tidbits about that not being That purdue was in, 2366 02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:05,760 Speaker 1: it Or louisville OR ucla Or, iowa but the fact 2367 02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:07,440 Speaker 1: that there was a kid in my neighborhood who was 2368 02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:09,240 Speaker 1: in high. School an older guy THAT i knew that 2369 02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,160 Speaker 1: his parents got called because he got arrested because he 2370 02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:14,960 Speaker 1: and his friend decided to try to take as many 2371 02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:17,320 Speaker 1: license plates from out of town markets as they, could 2372 02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:20,280 Speaker 1: so they had this accumulation of license plates from around. 2373 02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:22,400 Speaker 1: It they ended up getting busted for, It and that 2374 02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:24,560 Speaker 1: was kind of the thing that most people at WHERE 2375 02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:26,880 Speaker 1: i grew up remembered of the Eighty Final, four and 2376 02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,840 Speaker 1: things were different by nineteen ninety one When vegas came 2377 02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:32,240 Speaker 1: here and it was in The dome and you Had 2378 02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:35,720 Speaker 1: duke And Bobby hurley And Christian latner And Grant hill's 2379 02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:39,360 Speaker 1: incredible alley and all of a, Sudden indianapolis was part 2380 02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Of and at that time it was surreal because it 2381 02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:45,040 Speaker 1: hadn't become to the point yet Where indianapolis was an 2382 02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:48,880 Speaker 1: epicenter sports destination. Town but The Final four is a 2383 02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:51,280 Speaker 1: huge part of how it became. That, yes The Pandem 2384 02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:55,160 Speaker 1: games were, big The National Sports, festival obviously The indianapolis five, 2385 02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:58,320 Speaker 1: hundreds but by ninety seven when The Final four came 2386 02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,040 Speaker 1: back And Circle center was a buzz and it was 2387 02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:05,840 Speaker 1: the site of WHERE tv studios were and live broadcasts 2388 02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,480 Speaker 1: AND PanAm. Plaza then it was often running and now 2389 02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:11,680 Speaker 1: it's to the point WHERE i think most would tell 2390 02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:14,320 Speaker 1: you that this is where they prefer it should be, 2391 02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:17,320 Speaker 1: annually but certainly every five to six. Years and it's 2392 02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:20,160 Speaker 1: gotten to the point where it is almost just an 2393 02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 1: assumption when you live In india that The Final four 2394 02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:24,120 Speaker 1: is going to be here every couple of. Years BUT 2395 02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:26,320 Speaker 1: i just hope we don't take for granted where it 2396 02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:30,480 Speaker 1: was that we came, from because it still is a 2397 02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:34,280 Speaker 1: city that puts on these events better than, anybody and 2398 02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:38,720 Speaker 1: it's because we civically have a pride about doing it 2399 02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:41,040 Speaker 1: the right. Way and it's awesome AND i think it's 2400 02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:43,520 Speaker 1: going to be an Awesome Final. Four and people that 2401 02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:46,280 Speaker 1: come down To indianapolis and come from the other, markets 2402 02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:49,080 Speaker 1: one of the can't miss places that they always have to, 2403 02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:51,640 Speaker 1: go whether it be a colts, Game final, FOUR Nba 2404 02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:55,240 Speaker 1: finals is The Slippery. Noodle Marty bacon is the absolute. 2405 02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,600 Speaker 1: Best he's the most hospitable dude In. Indianapolis it's the 2406 02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:00,640 Speaker 1: oldest bar In indiana and in terms of the bar 2407 02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,960 Speaker 1: that's right there when you walk in AND jmb is 2408 02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:06,720 Speaker 1: there today AND i, know getting ready to put on 2409 02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:12,040 Speaker 1: a final Four friday extravaganza of fun and. Celebration, john 2410 02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:13,760 Speaker 1: you got to be fired up here as part of 2411 02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:14,960 Speaker 1: the crossover From Love heating And. 2412 02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:21,000 Speaker 9: Air, Hey, JAKE i may have a beer or a. 2413 02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:24,520 Speaker 9: Few maybe that's WHAT i. Hear that's What i've heard right. Here, 2414 02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:26,440 Speaker 9: yeah Bud light's gott as. Shake you're right on what 2415 02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,000 Speaker 9: you said about. That AND i know we all can 2416 02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:30,560 Speaker 9: take for granted what's going on around, here and it's 2417 02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:33,920 Speaker 9: just so epic the events they put. On but it 2418 02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:39,200 Speaker 9: is magnificent once, again and the buzz downtown is incredible 2419 02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:42,440 Speaker 9: as you would. Expect and here we, are, Buddy here 2420 02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,280 Speaker 9: we are once again with The Final four and some. 2421 02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:47,680 Speaker 9: Fun and when you get, off you got to come down. 2422 02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:49,800 Speaker 9: HERE i don't know what you plan on, doing but 2423 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:50,760 Speaker 9: you got to join us down. 2424 02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,960 Speaker 1: Here, yeah you know WHAT i. DO i do love The, 2425 02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:57,640 Speaker 1: noodle AND i Love marty for, sure and, yes and 2426 02:13:57,760 --> 02:13:59,800 Speaker 1: the folks that you're with from Bud light and all of. 2427 02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:02,160 Speaker 1: It SO i may have to do. That, indeed WHEN 2428 02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:05,320 Speaker 1: i do, so If i'm listening in and evesdropping on the, 2429 02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:06,360 Speaker 1: program what do you got line? 2430 02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:10,320 Speaker 9: Now, well, yeah it's going to be. Funny the dump 2431 02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:12,600 Speaker 9: button is probably going to have to be. Monitored i'm 2432 02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:16,920 Speaker 9: assuming With james back of the. Studio But Nathan christiansen's 2433 02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:18,680 Speaker 9: going to join. Us he's the director of. Athletics not, 2434 02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:20,920 Speaker 9: Yet we're. Okay he's gonna hang with thoughts for a 2435 02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 9: little bit at the start of the. Show the director 2436 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:25,800 Speaker 9: of athletics From Indiana. State Brian, bush is the voice Of. 2437 02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:29,120 Speaker 9: Michigan he And Terry mills on The Michigan Radio. Network 2438 02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:31,920 Speaker 9: he's going to join. Us Tucker, barnhart Former reds, catcher 2439 02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:33,120 Speaker 9: going to join us a little bit later. 2440 02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:35,720 Speaker 10: On And, JAKE i want to play the game where 2441 02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:36,000 Speaker 10: did you? 2442 02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:41,360 Speaker 9: Play, Like i'm curious how many athletes that played college 2443 02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:44,520 Speaker 9: basketball or coached are in. Here and you, Know i'm 2444 02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:47,000 Speaker 9: not vet bright and MAYBE i don't notice the RIGHT 2445 02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:49,560 Speaker 9: i want to know where you, played what you, did 2446 02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:52,240 Speaker 9: and while you're, here because you see all these different 2447 02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:55,360 Speaker 9: all these different sweatsuits and all these different logos and 2448 02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:58,560 Speaker 9: sometimes from whatever, league whatever division we're talking, about we 2449 02:14:58,640 --> 02:14:59,240 Speaker 9: don't know what they. 2450 02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:01,480 Speaker 10: ARE i want to know that you ever thought about that. 2451 02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:04,600 Speaker 1: Totally but, yeah and it's it's funny, too the number 2452 02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:07,520 Speaker 1: of guys that you'll see that are coaching for some, 2453 02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:09,880 Speaker 1: school and then you look at it you're, like wait a, 2454 02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:12,080 Speaker 1: minute LIKE i remember when that, guy you, know he 2455 02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,840 Speaker 1: was on the sweet sixteen team From chattanooga twenty. Five 2456 02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it might, be, Right. 2457 02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:18,840 Speaker 9: I'm the ton of, it and let us, say let's 2458 02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:20,600 Speaker 9: play a quick game. Here by the, way if you don't, Mind, 2459 02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:22,000 Speaker 9: JAKE i don't want to cut you. Off but there's 2460 02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:24,840 Speaker 9: there's dude sitting down here and it's a a kind 2461 02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:29,200 Speaker 9: of a purple with wide outline block lettering R. V 2462 02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:33,640 Speaker 9: R v is the, logo and It's nike year and 2463 02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:36,160 Speaker 9: they got a dude they're talking to between. Them one guy's, 2464 02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:38,920 Speaker 9: tall about six foot. Seven there's a dude talking to 2465 02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:43,360 Speaker 9: them between them that's got A Kansas City Chiefs jersey 2466 02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:44,640 Speaker 9: on R. 2467 02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:47,280 Speaker 10: V help me what would R v? 2468 02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:50,560 Speaker 9: Mean and he's eating he's eating A blt IS i 2469 02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:51,400 Speaker 9: don't know if that does that. 2470 02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:52,320 Speaker 10: Help he's eating A. 2471 02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:56,640 Speaker 1: BLT i Thought Rio, grande but that would BE rg, 2472 02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Okay so, yeah be that. Something? Valley is there a 2473 02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:01,760 Speaker 1: real Valley. 2474 02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:05,760 Speaker 10: Rio Valley valley and. 2475 02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:07,880 Speaker 4: R v. 2476 02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:11,600 Speaker 10: They're not paying. It i'm not up, here so they 2477 02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:14,120 Speaker 10: can't hear me right. Now but R. 2478 02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:19,840 Speaker 9: V it's not THAT i don't think see now you, Know, 2479 02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:22,120 Speaker 9: hey let me ask this, Dude. Jake hold on a, 2480 02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:25,720 Speaker 9: Second i'm gonna. Interrupt, hey, hey, hey ask him WHAT rv? 2481 02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:26,600 Speaker 9: Means right, there. 2482 02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Right? 2483 02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,800 Speaker 10: There ask him WHAT rv means the logo in his? 2484 02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:34,480 Speaker 10: Shirt go ot there you see, that? 2485 02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:34,879 Speaker 1: Dude? 2486 02:16:35,200 --> 02:16:37,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah right? There one more there you, GO, keV 2487 02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:39,880 Speaker 10: he's got R v right there R. V. 2488 02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah do we have an, Answer, john it's a high. 2489 02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:48,800 Speaker 10: School hold on a, SECOND i just read his his. 2490 02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:49,760 Speaker 10: Lips it's a high. 2491 02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:50,000 Speaker 1: School. 2492 02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:50,560 Speaker 10: Cab where is? 2493 02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:53,200 Speaker 1: It all? 2494 02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:56,240 Speaker 9: Right Royal valley In. Kansas it's a high. School so, 2495 02:16:56,480 --> 02:16:58,680 Speaker 9: LISTEN i put together the. Puzzle thank, You. keV i'll 2496 02:16:58,680 --> 02:17:00,680 Speaker 9: put together that puzzle a little. Bit it's it's From, 2497 02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:02,640 Speaker 9: kansas so that makes. Sense they Love. 2498 02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:04,320 Speaker 1: KANSAS i can tell you. 2499 02:17:04,400 --> 02:17:04,440 Speaker 4: That. 2500 02:17:04,720 --> 02:17:07,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, man he's eating at pork like it's nobody's. BUSINESS 2501 02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:09,480 Speaker 10: i tell you that. Is and here you. 2502 02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:12,119 Speaker 1: Go i've looked it. Up Royal valley is In, Emporia. 2503 02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:15,520 Speaker 1: Kansas and just so you, Know, Emporia kansas is, where 2504 02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:19,080 Speaker 1: uh do you remember in the early, Eighties, john like 2505 02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:21,040 Speaker 1: everybody had the little plastic thing you put in the 2506 02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:22,840 Speaker 1: window sill of your car so you could put a 2507 02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:26,360 Speaker 1: twelve ounce like coke can in. It, Right that little 2508 02:17:26,440 --> 02:17:29,560 Speaker 1: contraption was invented by a guy From, Emporia kansas who 2509 02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:32,080 Speaker 1: now lives on like a huge palatial estate. THERE i 2510 02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:35,600 Speaker 1: know that because my fraternity, Brother Sean hoog was From, Emporia. 2511 02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:36,400 Speaker 1: Kansas there you. 2512 02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:40,000 Speaker 9: Go i'm assuming there's some sort Of juco, school probably 2513 02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,760 Speaker 9: because there's one and like every small town In, Kansas. 2514 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:47,320 Speaker 1: Kansas Junior, Colleges Royal Valley High school public secondary school 2515 02:17:47,360 --> 02:17:51,400 Speaker 1: In White kansas R. V that is, right R. V 2516 02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't say what their colors, are but oh purple and, white, 2517 02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:57,680 Speaker 1: yeah and white in the MASS. 2518 02:17:57,600 --> 02:17:59,200 Speaker 10: I know What i'm talking. About that's. 2519 02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:00,840 Speaker 1: Right there you. 2520 02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:02,160 Speaker 3: Go you got? 2521 02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:03,760 Speaker 1: It all, Right, John we'll throw it out to you 2522 02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:05,920 Speaker 1: here in just a little bit at the noodle and 2523 02:18:06,040 --> 02:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Enjoy final four. Weekend all, right you got. It that 2524 02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:11,200 Speaker 1: is how we do THE Rv Royal Valley, crossover brought 2525 02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:12,480 Speaker 1: to you by the good guys that love heating and 2526 02:18:12,560 --> 02:18:15,440 Speaker 1: air LOVEDASH hvac dot. Com three one seven three five 2527 02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:18,920 Speaker 1: three twenty one forty one is the telephone. Number all 2528 02:18:18,959 --> 02:18:21,359 Speaker 1: Right monday on the program. 2529 02:18:21,160 --> 02:18:23,560 Speaker 2: Hold, On, jake what's your prediction for this. Weekend i've 2530 02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:28,120 Speaker 2: Got Arizona yukon advancing to the Championship monday, night And 2531 02:18:28,280 --> 02:18:31,520 Speaker 2: i've Got Tommy lloyd in The wildcats winning it. 2532 02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:34,480 Speaker 1: All, uh, well we won't. Know we don't have to 2533 02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:36,520 Speaker 1: make Our monday prediction until, then, right ALTHOUGH i Guess 2534 02:18:36,600 --> 02:18:39,080 Speaker 1: i'm just going. Ahead when the brackets came, OUT i Had. 2535 02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:42,400 Speaker 1: CONNECTICUT i think they obviously would be a big underdog 2536 02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:45,560 Speaker 1: at this, point but AND i love the Way. ILLINOIS 2537 02:18:45,800 --> 02:18:48,400 Speaker 1: i don't. Listen i'm not selling Short illinois at. All 2538 02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:51,280 Speaker 1: But i'm only going With connecticut BECAUSE i said it 2539 02:18:51,320 --> 02:18:52,840 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the, tournament So i've got to 2540 02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:57,920 Speaker 1: stick with. That But i'll Say connecticut Over, michigan BUT 2541 02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:00,840 Speaker 1: i think in, reality but, Anyway i'll Stick connecticut Over. 2542 02:19:00,959 --> 02:19:03,040 Speaker 1: Michigan there you, go all, right we'll be back with 2543 02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:05,760 Speaker 1: you at, noon coming up On. Monday thanks, Again Taylor, 2544 02:19:05,800 --> 02:19:08,440 Speaker 1: Tannabaum thanks Rolb, frief and Thanks Michael, shrewsbury and most, 2545 02:19:08,480 --> 02:19:11,320 Speaker 1: importantly thanks to all of you for listening To query 2546 02:19:11,440 --> 02:19:14,320 Speaker 1: And company and enjoy The Final four In indie