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Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz joins us now from Bob Kravitz dot com.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the lead authority on many subjects when it

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you ever think, Bob in a gabillion years

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Speaker 3: And I think he's got a good situation here with

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Speaker 2: I've been too long.

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Speaker 1: You need to have you back on, man, But I

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Speaker 1: in terms of today versus yesterday to start, and that

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Speaker 5: Zero a little more than zero. But he hasn't practice

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying this to play Devil's advocate Chap. But

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Speaker 2: So Mike, the reality is Mike chap On, my guest.

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Speaker 1: I thought yesterday Philip Rivers, and you you tell me

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Speaker 5: expand on that in a bit as well.

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Speaker 2: JAP, do we have any update on Bernard Ryman.

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Speaker 4: No, Uh, they.

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Speaker 5: Were waiting for an MRI. I they don't think it's

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Speaker 5: I R level injury. But keep in mind there's only

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Speaker 5: three games left and to have a tackle with if

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Speaker 5: you know he was out there. Brett Bensley had a

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Speaker 5: good picture our potac guy audio or a video guy

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Speaker 5: a good picture of Ryman back out there, Yes, with

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Speaker 5: a big prace or or whatever on his arm, but

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Speaker 5: to have at least at least it's his right arm

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Speaker 5: to where he can still reach out with his left

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Speaker 5: arm at left tackle and play, I guess. But injuries

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Speaker 5: at this time of the year are not good because

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Speaker 5: you're running out of time to rehab. So hopefully he's back.

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Speaker 5: I would be surprised this week, I just would, but

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Speaker 5: hopefully he's back to wore those.

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Speaker 2: Things over Chap.

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Speaker 1: I look at if you look at the fact, you

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Speaker 1: know the Colts are now down two tackles right on

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Speaker 1: both sides, and you know Braden Smith will see what

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Speaker 1: happens long term with that off the ir But the

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Speaker 1: best protection at this point for the quarterback, whether it

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Speaker 1: be Philip Rivers or whoever it may be, I thought,

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Speaker 1: was in fact Jonathan Taylor, because conventionally, you would think

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Speaker 1: Seattle would have just said, we're just gonna blitz from

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Speaker 1: the left and right side, you know, at nauseum here

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Speaker 1: right and get after Philip Rivers, except that I think

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to run past their coverage of Taylor,

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Speaker 1: so they were better off just kind of keeping it

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Speaker 1: right behind the line. Stacking the box to spy on Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Limit the pass game to say seven yards and in,

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Speaker 1: and not get too aggressive as to not then get

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Speaker 1: beat by a draw. If you will to tailor or

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Speaker 1: let Taylor beat them. Is that overthinking it or do

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Speaker 1: you think that's the way that played out?

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Speaker 5: No, that's how it played out. And if I'm Salo,

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Speaker 5: if I'm Frisco or anybody, I'm not overly concerned with

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Speaker 5: with Philip Rivers. I'm just not, you know, didn't condense

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Speaker 5: yourself all you want. At some point, more times than not,

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Speaker 5: something's going to go wrong, a bad throw, somebody dropping

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Speaker 5: the ball, a sack, a holding penalty of ball. Start

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Speaker 5: you get behind the scenes, and then you're in trouble.

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Speaker 5: I would make Jonathan Taylor beat me all the time,

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Speaker 5: and you know that. You know, people should notice they

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Speaker 5: ran the ball thirty times yesterday and threw it twenty seven.

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Speaker 5: I'm sort of surprised it was that in balance. I

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Speaker 5: thought they may run the ball more so. And it's

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Speaker 5: gonna if they're really gonna test Jonathan Taylor's stamina and patience,

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Speaker 5: because this is a guy that was averaging like six

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Speaker 5: yards of carrier or you know, mid season and now

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Speaker 5: it's it's like three five, three six because it's just

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Speaker 5: tough sledding and the only way to back people off

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Speaker 5: is to be aggressive down the field. And do you

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Speaker 5: I don't see that happening a player I feel bad for.

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Speaker 5: It's not like Pierce because I just don't see them.

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Speaker 1: And he really wanted to target yesterday. I mean he

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Speaker 1: second highest number of snaps in one target right.

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Speaker 5: There was really two because one of them was wiped

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Speaker 5: out by a penalty, I think, but no one official

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Speaker 5: target and on that great back shoulder throw. But you know,

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Speaker 5: so you can't maximize what some of your players do,

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Speaker 5: but this is where they are, and I it's it's

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Speaker 5: got the potential to be not very We've had the

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Speaker 5: entertaining part, you know we have. Yesterday was was almost

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Speaker 5: almost movie like. It almost was again if the defense

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Speaker 5: makes one more play and you win a game that

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Speaker 5: you know would have really added something to Rivers legend

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Speaker 5: and it's already pretty good. But I just don't I

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Speaker 5: don't see a steady dose of this type of an offense.

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Speaker 5: Was a three point seven yards a play. That's just hard,

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Speaker 5: and I just wonder how much the defense has left

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Speaker 5: in it when you're already playing with that Buckner and

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Speaker 5: Ward and Gardner. Maybe they get bucked back this week,

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Speaker 5: maybe they get Gardner back. But I just I thought

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Speaker 5: the defense gave all it had until it didn't have

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Speaker 5: enough to give it the end. But that's just that's

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Speaker 5: just asking a lot for the rest of the team

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Speaker 5: to do so much more because the offense just can't

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Speaker 5: do enough.

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Speaker 2: Chap.

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Speaker 1: I thought Amir Abduli yesterday was involved, obviously more than

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Speaker 1: we have seen him in the past. Is that because

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Speaker 1: they wanted to keep balance with Jonathan Taylor or is

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Speaker 1: that because he has a capability that is within the

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Speaker 1: comfort zone of what Philip Rivers likes.

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Speaker 5: Probably both. Again, I mentioned on social media yesterday that

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Speaker 5: JT needed twenty five carries minimum, and that's what he got.

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Speaker 5: But they can't. They're not going to run him thirty

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Speaker 5: to thirty five times. They just aren't. They just wear

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Speaker 5: him out and wear him down and all that. So

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Speaker 5: I duly gave him a pretty good, pretty good change.

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Speaker 5: If somebody mentioned that he was almost like Nahim Heinz,

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Speaker 5: like how he can do things. He's better out of

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Speaker 5: the backfield than JT is. He just is so that's

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Speaker 5: where game planning. I thought, game plan wise, considering the

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Speaker 5: personnel limitations, I thought Stiken had a really good offensive

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Speaker 5: game plan and and Rumo had a really good defensive game. Point.

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Speaker 2: No, it was Chap.

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Speaker 1: It was actually and people can feel free to come

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Speaker 1: at me with this. Maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it was actually a well coached game. I thought, given

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Speaker 1: some of the handcuffs put on them, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a well coached game.

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Speaker 5: They were thirteen point underdogs. I mean, with my great knowledge,

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Speaker 5: I had a'm getting I picked them to get beat

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Speaker 5: thirty one thirteen in my game preview, just because I

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Speaker 5: didn't think that they could do enough in other areas,

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Speaker 5: and they did. Again, I'm not going to just bank

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Speaker 5: on you know, if we just get in positioned to

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Speaker 5: have group, you hit a sixty yarder, I mean, let's

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Speaker 5: not go there, because that's asking too much, because you

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Speaker 5: know so again, I just wonder what they've got for

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Speaker 5: an encore after doing all most everything right, can you

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Speaker 5: lose with a fifty six yard field goal at the end.

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Speaker 5: I just I wonder how they regroup. They will These

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Speaker 5: guys are prideful, They get paid well, and this this

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Speaker 5: is their job. I mean, they're not going to go

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Speaker 5: out there and to lay down at all, but at

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Speaker 5: some point, and they do not talk about it internally,

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Speaker 5: they don't, but at some point, your your personal limitations

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Speaker 5: keep you from doing what it takes to win a game.

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Speaker 5: And I'm just wondering how close to could start of

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Speaker 5: that with with three extremely tough opponents coming.

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Speaker 1: Up, Chap, I know that, if I'm not mistaken, you're

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Speaker 1: getting ready to go in Shane Stikeen's availability real quick.

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Speaker 1: The things that we're wanting to learn today, the question

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Speaker 1: marks today that you are looking for answers for that

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Speaker 1: you'll have at CBS four and w x A and

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Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine are.

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Speaker 5: First is is River? Are you? Are you going on

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Speaker 5: with rip with Rivers? And I think they are. And

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Speaker 5: then the follow up, in some form or fashion will

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Speaker 5: be but what what what.

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Speaker 4: What will make you think that'll be?

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Speaker 5: It'll be better, marginally better this week and the week

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Speaker 5: after and all they're going you know, it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: repetitions and familiarity.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then and then we'll ask ar questions. And I

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Speaker 5: don't think he'll move the needle much on that. I

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Speaker 5: don't think we'll get much of an update on Bernard Ryman,

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Speaker 5: but it's gonna be about about Rivers and moving forward

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Speaker 5: with him. How did he feel today when he get

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Speaker 5: out of bed after you know, he went at there

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Speaker 5: mowing the grass at age forty four? He was getting

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Speaker 5: beat on pretty good, right, so that it'll be Philip

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Speaker 5: Rivers driven. Uh, of course.

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Speaker 2: All right, chap We appreciate the time. As always. We'll

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Speaker 2: let you get to it, all right.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guy, be well my

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Speaker 2: Chapel joining US CBS four in w X and Fox

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Speaker 2: is nine