1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Line from the Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Hey there, everybody, I'm Andrew Langer in 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: for Tony Katz. Here on Tony Katz Today. We're watching 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: with baited breath the breaking news that Pam Bondy is out. 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Attorney General Pambondy out right now. I've almost said Blanche 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Lincoln Todd Blanche possibly sitting in as Attorney General in 7 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: the interim. We don't have this confirmed yet, it's just 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. It would be really interesting if 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the President had fired her last night while making this 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: speech and didn't make the announcement either before or after. 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: So as it comes in, we will continue to look 12 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: at this. Of course, Todd Blanche, he's a deputy attorney general. 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: He defended President Trump during his twenty twenty four criminal 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: trial of of business fraud in New York. So we'll 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: see what happens there. It's interesting, right we'll get Sarah 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Makin's take on this when she joins us in the 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: latter part of this hour. Right now, we're looking at 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: the possibility of Bondi being gone and Christy nom being gone. 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: This is pretty pretty serious stuff major senior administration officials 20 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: who are women apparently being fired. So in any case, 21 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: I want to go here because the President did speak 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: last night about this war in Iran. We just had 23 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the conversation with Jerry Rodgers about it. And you know, 24 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: again I've talked about my love of rhetorical flourishes. I 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: like folks who can, you know, put together a cojin 26 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: sentence of English and being able to explain an idea. 27 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: It's why I appreciated Ted Cruz long before Ted Cruz 28 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: ran for office. I saw him give a couple of speeches. 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Then maybe that's me. I know that the cheese may 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: stand alone on that, but you know that's sort of 31 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: where I go. You can say, well, that's Andrew, that's 32 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: evidence of you being establishmentarian. But Jerry, I think is 33 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: right insofar as the President wasn't speaking to me necessarily, 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: he was speaking to the American people who aren't necessarily 35 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: inside the bubble and don't consume this stuff, you know, 36 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven or twenty three six as it is. 37 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: But here is the President speaking last night. Let's go 38 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: ahead and play cut number six. 39 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,279 Speaker 2: It's very important that we keep this conflict in perspective. 40 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: American involvement in World War One lasted one year, seven 41 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: months and five days. World War Two lasted four three years, 42 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: eight months, and twenty five days. The Korean War lasted 43 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: for three years, one month, and two days. The Vietnam 44 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: War lasted for nineteen years, five months, and twenty nine days. 45 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Iraq went on for eight years, eight months and twenty 46 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: eight days. We are in this military operation, so powerful, 47 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: so brilliant, against one of the most powerful countries for 48 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: thirty two days, and the country has been eviscerated and 49 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: essentially is really no longer a threat. They were the 50 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: believe of the Middle East, but they're the bullieved no longer. 51 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: This is a true investment in your children and your 52 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: grandchildren's future. 53 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: The whole world is watching. 54 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: And they can't leave the power, strength, and brilliants. 55 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: They just can't believe what they're seeing. 56 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: They leave it to your imagination, but they can't believe 57 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: what they're seeing the brilliance of the United States military. 58 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: Every American can look forward to a day when we are. 59 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Finally free from the wickedness of Iranian aggression and the 60 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: specter of nuclear black Bill because of the actions we 61 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: have taken we are on the cusp of ending a rand, 62 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: sinister threat to America. 63 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: And the world. And I'll tell you, the world is watching. 64 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: And when we. 65 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: Do, okay, we can end it there. Yeah, So I 66 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: mean a way one on and I get this, by 67 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: the way, I would kind of quibble, this is really 68 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: not major. The US was really only involved in Vietnam, 69 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, as far as troops and combat, you know, 70 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: for about ten years, nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy five. 71 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there at the end of 72 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: the day. But the reality is right if we're going 73 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: to make the comparison here, and the President talked a 74 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: little bit about the folks that we've lost. We'll get 75 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: to that in a moment. But the issue of the 76 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: number of people we've lost visa v. The amount of 77 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: time we've been engaged in combat, visa v. The successes 78 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: that we had that we've had in this Never have 79 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: we achieved so much in so little time with so 80 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: little loss of American military life. And that's not to 81 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: say that the thirteen who have perished that's not a tragedy. 82 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely it is. But you know, when we think about 83 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: we look at the folks who are engaged in major 84 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: detraction of this. It's a lot better than it could 85 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: have been. Here the President talks about honoring the fallen 86 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: and what needs to be done. Let's go to Cut number. 87 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: Seven, Briton tonight. 88 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say that these core strategic objectives are 89 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: nearing completion. As we celebrate this progress, we think especially 90 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: of the thirteen American warriors who have laid down their 91 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: lives in this fight to prevent to our children from 92 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: ever having to face a nuclear Iran. Twice this past month, 93 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: I've traveled to Dover Air Force Base and it's been 94 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: something I wanted to be with those heroes as the 95 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: return to Americans. So when I was with them and 96 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: their families, their parents, their wives, husbands, we salute them, 97 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: and now we must honor them by completing the mission 98 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: for which they gave their lives. 99 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: And every single one of the people they loved one. 100 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Said please please finish the job, every one of them. 101 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: And that's what you do. You finished the job that 102 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: you've started. I'm going to get into the issue of 103 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: bouncing back, because, as I said, if you didn't hear 104 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: me earlier, I've offered up this thesis I'm not as 105 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: eorish as I was before about the things that are happening. 106 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: I am a little bit more concerned about the gas 107 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: price issue than my colleague Jerry is. We'll get to 108 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: that in a moment. I do want to say this, 109 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: because there were a bunch of a bunch of folks 110 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: who were out there cheerleading. We'll hear from some of 111 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: them who were not Here is Hannity, who was immediately 112 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: on after the speech. We watched it on Fox just 113 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: because it was the easiest thing to turn on there. 114 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: I probably could have watched that on Newsmax. By the way, 115 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of work on Newsmax lately. I'll 116 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: be back on news Max on Saturday two in the afternoon. 117 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Go and check it out. Doing quite a bit of 118 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: that lately. Here is Hannity, though, on Fox News, talking 119 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: about the case that the President made. Right afterward, Let's 120 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: put cut number eleven. 121 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: He laid out in no uncertain terms why America was 122 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: forced to obliterate Iran's regime and military first and foremost. 123 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: As President Trump has stated for years, Iran cannot be 124 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: allowed to build a nuclear weapon, and this regime, he says, 125 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: was on the cusp of multiple nuclear weapons, a terrorist 126 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: regime chanting to America, to Israel, the number one state 127 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 4: sponsor of terror, and that America obviously and obviously cannot 128 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: allow them to be trusted with nuclear weapons. Make no mistake, 129 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: this conflict is all about ending Iran's ability to threaten America. 130 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: President didn't give a specific timeline, but talked about the 131 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: next two to three weeks and this thing should be 132 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: wrapped up in terms of all military objectives. 133 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's I mean, it's fascinating to me the 134 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: spin that's out there. My favorite reaction was from at 135 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: least somebody purporting to be the Iranian government, essentially saying 136 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: that all of this is predicated on a lie. Right 137 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: to hear the Iranians say it. They've never heard of Israel. 138 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: They don't know what any of us are talking. I 139 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know. It's like Frankie Pantangily, if you've watched The 140 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Godfather part too, Frankie Pantangily's sign's an affidavit. But then 141 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: he goes before Congress and Michael Corey and I know 142 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: I worked for his father in the olive oil import business, 143 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know anything else about any of this 144 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: other stuff, you know, to hear the Iranians tell it. No, 145 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: you know, no, No, we're a peaceful, loving nation. We know, 146 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: we don't know what we don't know what terrorism is. 147 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: We don't spend any money on terrorism. We're not we're 148 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: not building nuclear weapons. We're building. We're building McDonald's is here, Yeah, 149 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: lots of them, Lots and lots of big big men 150 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: We're built. We're building Wegmans and Costco. That's that's what 151 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: we're doing, our own version of of of of big 152 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: box retailers under these things. Listen. But I want to 153 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: talk about this issue of bouncing back because I am 154 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I think we are creating the conditions where this can happen. 155 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: More on that in a moment. I'm Andrew langer In 156 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: for Tony. This is Tony Kats today. Oh you don't 157 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: want me to sing this, you know, it's kind of 158 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: hard not to when you when you hear Old Blue Eyes. Anyway, 159 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Hi everybody, I'm Andrew lagger In for Tony Katz. Tony 160 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: Katz today. We're playing music having to do with with space, 161 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: space travel. I'm going to be joined in a couple 162 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: of minutes by Sarah Macon a good friend of mine 163 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: talking about all all stuff that's going on in the news, 164 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: but also the thing she's been up to in protecting 165 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: religious freedom, you know, promoting the fight back against agression 166 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: around the world. There's a movie that she helped produce. 167 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: So we're going to get to hear from her in 168 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: just just a moment. But I want to put up 169 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: this thesis that I had earlier, which is, I am 170 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I am obviously deeply concerned by the price of gasoline 171 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: to the pump. The price of oil fascinating to me. 172 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: I've watched a bitcoin valuations change, you know, contrary to 173 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: what the so called experts and cryptocurrency told us when 174 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: the war started, cryptocurrency took a major, major hit. One's 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: supposed to do that one oil price is spiked, it's 176 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: supposed to do just the opposite. But in any case, 177 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the question is how does this impact the American economy 178 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: over the long term and can we bounce back from this. 179 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Here is what the President had to say last night. 180 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and near cutt Ofmbright. 181 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: Many Americans have been concerned to see the recent rise 182 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: in gasoline prices. 183 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: Here at home. 184 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: This short term increase has been entirely the result of 185 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: the Iranian regime launching to range terror attacks against commercial 186 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: oil tankers and neighboring countries that have nothing to. 187 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: Do with the conflict. 188 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: This is yet more proof that Iran can never be 189 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: trusted with nuclear weapons. 190 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: They will use them, and they will use them quickly. 191 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: It would lead to decades of extortion, economic pain, and 192 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: instability worse than we can ever imagine. The United States 193 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: has never been better prepared economically to confront this threat. 194 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: And true see see, that's the thing that I that 195 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: I come back to when I think a lot of 196 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: us forget, is that over the last year, a lot 197 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 1: has been done, and we could talk about whether or 198 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: not there's a lot of what's good has been undone 199 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: and and again maybe in the near term there has 200 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: been some there's there's a hit to the economy. I 201 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: won't I won't doubt that. I won't dispute that at all. 202 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: But and for those of you who don't know, if 203 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: you if you don't know anything about me, it's not 204 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: just that I do talk radio work, right, or the 205 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: podcast that I do with Jerrier, or or the podcast 206 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: that I do, the public policy podcast that I do, 207 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: the lunch hour. By the way, if you're not following 208 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: me on x at Andrew underscore Langer, please do so. 209 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: But I do public policy work. I do it for 210 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: a conservative public policy organization, now largely regulatory policy, you 211 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: know how, and and and healthcare policy as well. But 212 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: but looking at what these executive branch agencies are doing, 213 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: the proposals that they're putting out there, many of which 214 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: are truly deregulatory in action, and they've and they've had 215 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: a tremendous impact. And it's part of what was able 216 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: why we were able to get back in many ways 217 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: from the damage that was caused by the shutdown in 218 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Once things started to open up again, people 219 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: were able to go back to work. There wasn't a 220 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: long standing there wasn't a long standing liability in our 221 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: economy until Joe Biden hit the gas pedal on regulations 222 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: and things started to ratchet down. And I'm not saying, 223 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: let me be really clear about this, I'm not saying 224 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: that we should exist in an environment in which there's 225 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: no regulation. But we can't can't can't can't go on 226 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: thinking that regulations don't have a cost. That's the whole 227 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: point of regulation. It's to raise the cost of doing 228 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: the wrong thing so that it is less expensive in 229 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: the long term to do the right thing. So it 230 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: has an impact. Right, we had rivers catching on fire 231 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen seventies, so we enacted a bunch 232 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: of environmental laws, and some can say we might have 233 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: gone overboard. Rivers stopped catching on fire. Our air has 234 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: never been cleaner, our water's never been cleaner, and that's true, guys. 235 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: But there's an impact on it. It means that that 236 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: manufacturing is going to go somewhere else. We're going to 237 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: get the rust belt in the East and the Upper Midwest. 238 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: That's the choice. 239 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: You know. 240 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: I was in an uber earlier this week. I've had 241 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: some new lights installed on my car. I have a used, 242 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: very used, very very lovingly used Toyota FJ Cruiser. I 243 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: think I can say that on the air it's not 244 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: a problem. It's twenty twelve, so it's a thirteen fourteen 245 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: year old car. It's got over you know, one hundred 246 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand miles on it. I bought it 247 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: used and I want signing some extra lights for some 248 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: of the driving that I do in rural areas at night, 249 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm making my second trip out there, 250 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: would drop the car off. My wife was at work. 251 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to go pick up the car earlier on 252 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: in the day when it was ready. And I'm explaining 253 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: this to the Uber driver, you know, it was just talking, 254 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: asking me where we're going, blah blah blah. And she's like, well, well, 255 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: why you know. I ordered these lights off of Amazon 256 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: the first time I ordered them, and they came from China. 257 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: They sent me to left side lights and these are 258 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: lights that go on the bumper of the FJ. And 259 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: she's like, well, why did you order them from China? 260 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, because nobody makes them here at home. 261 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: I didn't find ones that I liked here at home. 262 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: And then I began to explain to her the way 263 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: that these economies work and why China has the upper 264 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: hand when it comes to inexpensive manufacturing of these goods 265 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: and their environmental record and all of those things. And 266 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I say this because we're trying to create parody. P 267 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: R I t y parody. One of the things that 268 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: was involved in the first Trumpet minutes the first year 269 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: of the second Trump administration was a massive cut in regulations. 270 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: The Biden administration added roughly one point eight trillion dollars 271 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: of regulation. That's trillion with. 272 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 5: A T. 273 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: And peeling back on that is going to take some time. 274 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: The Trump administration has started to do that for the 275 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: first time. We had a massive reduction about five percent 276 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: of annual regulatory cost reductions, you know, roughly two hundred 277 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: and eleven billion dollars in regulatory savings because of the activities. 278 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: And they have to do it in a systematic way. 279 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Let me, let me make that really clear. They can't 280 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: go off and do something capriciously. President Trump just can't 281 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: come in and with a stroke of a pensay everything 282 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: that Biden did can is undone. He could do that 283 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: with executive orders. But when it comes to these rules 284 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: and regulations, there's a process and it start and what 285 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: they want to do is they want to insulate themselves 286 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: from challenges down the road. So it starts with soliciting 287 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: the public for ideas. Actually it started with those sort 288 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: of looking at stuff and looking at the bureaucracy itself, 289 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: and then it's looking for recommendations the big ticket items, 290 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: and then it's looking for other kinds of recommendations. The 291 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: great thing is the public. It has to come in 292 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: on all of these things. I'm filing guys on average 293 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: about ten sets of comments a week, which is huge. 294 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, if I can tooot my own horn. You know, 295 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: it's saying that they could do more here. They're doing 296 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: something right there, maybe they ought not to do something 297 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: else elsewhere. They'll give you an example. Earlier this week, 298 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: the the EPA put out a proposal. They want to 299 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: settle a particular environmental lawsuit, and this settlement will make 300 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: it easier for other environmental groups to file lawsuits. So 301 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: I offered up my concerns on this issue, because a 302 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of times it will happen is an environmental group 303 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: will will want a democratic administration to engage in regulatory action. 304 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: The agency will say, well, publicly we can't do this, 305 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: but why don't you sue us and we'll settle, and 306 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: that way we can say, well, we were forced to 307 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: do this as a result of the lawsuit. And we 308 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: do some of that on our side, but not nearly enough, 309 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: because our side we understand the impact of regulations, so 310 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: we don't quite understand the process nearly as well as 311 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: our friends. I use that term loosely on the left. 312 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: The point is when you cut regulatory costs by two 313 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven billion dollars, right when you cut red 314 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: tape in that regard, it creates it has an impact 315 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: on the opportunity cost, which is to say, every time 316 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: you're forced to spend money on some government mandate, it's 317 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: money you in your business can is unable to spend. 318 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: You can't choose to spend it on something else, something 319 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: more productive. And so for every dollar in regulatory costs, 320 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: between no joke, guys a one to nineteen dollars multiplier, 321 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: So you know, if something adds a billion dollars in costs, 322 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: it's really between two and ninety six billion in lost opportunity. 323 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: So by that token, you know, two hundred and eleven billion, 324 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: you never do math on the air, is something like 325 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: nearly half a trillion dollars and regained opportunity cost. That's 326 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: what's gonna help us to recover once this war is over, 327 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: making it easier for people to do business. My good 328 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: friend Sarah Macon. When we return, I'm Andrew Langer. This 329 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: is Tony Kats today. Welcome back, everybody. I am Andrew Langer. 330 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: In four Tony Katz on Tony Katz today, another David 331 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: Bowie chesnut here space Oddity, So glad I can join 332 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: you when you can join me here joining all of 333 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: us right now is my friend Sarah Macon. So glad 334 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: I could have her on. She is an activist, she 335 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: is a film producer. But looking at your IMDb page 336 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: right now, Sarah, Sarah Macon is known for a Faith 337 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: under Siege and a Faith under Siege the series. I 338 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, Sarah, but I also 339 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: have an IMDb page. 340 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: I feel like that's when you really know you've made it. Yes, 341 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 6: not really. 342 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: So so Sarah is fresh off of her excellent appearance 343 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: at the Conservative Political Action Conference down in Dallas next week, 344 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: told some incredibly compelling stories. And I want to get 345 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: into this with you, Sarah. I mean, you're and then 346 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: I want to want to talk to you about Artemis 347 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: in a second. But let's let's start here. Let's start 348 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: with the war on religious freedom and faith generally. Where 349 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: do things stand globally? What are we doing to push back? 350 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 7: Thank you, Andrew, Hello to your audience. I'm grateful for 351 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 7: the opportunity to be on and talk. 352 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 3: To you all. 353 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have the opportunity, and I did the six 354 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 7: as background, so people know that I'm not just kind 355 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 7: of talking out whatever. 356 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: I am posterior. We can say that I. 357 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 6: Think I'm not just talking out of my ass here. 358 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 6: I had some experience in this world. 359 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 7: I served as President Trump's senior director on the National 360 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 7: Security Council and first administration, and his senior advisor on 361 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 7: international religious freedom, and as as you might remember and 362 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 7: hopefully your listeners might know, the President made a real 363 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 7: made religious freedom and protecting it not just domestically but 364 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 7: globally a priority. 365 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 6: In his first administration. 366 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 7: You know, if you look at the countries around the world, 367 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 7: the regimes, the authoritarians, the dictators who use use persecuting 368 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 7: religious minorities, whether they're Christians or Buddhists or Leaguers or 369 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 7: whatever they are, they use that as a practic because 370 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 7: they can't control religious communities. It's right, I mean, regardless 371 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 7: of your faith, if it is a truly deep held 372 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 7: belief of yours, then you usually put your God above 373 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 7: any dictator or authoritarian, right, And that's a that's a 374 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 7: power problem for you know, she or putin or you 375 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 7: name it, right, Right, So I got an opportunity, but. 376 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: Not enough go ahead. I was just gonna I was 377 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: just gonna pop in and just say, I mean, it 378 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: is a way of brave. People no longer have faith, 379 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: then they no longer have hope. And people without hope 380 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: are that much more easy to control, aren't they? 381 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 6: I mean absolutely? 382 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 7: And again, I mean I could go on and on 383 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 7: with stories about whether it's the Buddhists right in China 384 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 7: and the way that the CCP has controlled them for 385 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 7: so many years, right taking away their leaders at young 386 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 7: ages and trying to scare the community right into into 387 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 7: just you know, doing and and following this and falling 388 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 7: in line, and so absolutely, and so I had this 389 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 7: opportunity to sort of see this around the globe, right. 390 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 7: But one of the areas that I had started seeing 391 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: how Russia was using persecuting of religious minorities inside of Russia. 392 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 7: I started to see that a bit and kind of 393 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 7: looked into that. But when the Ukraine invasion happened and 394 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 7: that war kicked in, I started to see that Russia 395 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 7: was doing this now inside of Russian occupied territory in Ukraine, 396 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 7: they were persecuting and putting down people of faith in 397 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 7: particular those who did not follow the Russian Orthodox Church, right, 398 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 7: He only wants allowed church in Russia. Right, So this 399 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 7: isn't like New Russia has been doing this inside their 400 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 7: own borders for a very long time. Now they're exporting 401 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 7: it into Russian occupied Ukraine. 402 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: And the flip side being, of course, that the Russian 403 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Orthodox Church, I'm sorry, it's the Ukrainian Orthodox Church with 404 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: ties to Moscow in the Ukrainian borders, is being used 405 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: by the Russian government as as as an intelligence and 406 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: military tool. So I mean it's like it's a complete 407 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: perversion of faith in that regard, isn't it totally? 408 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 7: And I mean the guy who runs the Russian Orthodox 409 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 7: Church and the part of that church that's still in Ukraine, 410 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 7: it's a guy named Kirol and Kirol Is I mean, 411 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 7: you know, I'm not going to claim to know his heart, 412 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 7: but I'm going to be based on his actions and 413 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 7: his words. 414 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 6: Right, this guy is a purely political actor. 415 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 7: He is you know, he is tied to the Kremlin, 416 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: he is tied to Putin. 417 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 6: He blesses the bombs. 418 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 7: Before they go into Ukraine. He tells the soldiers, if 419 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 7: you die fighting Ukraine, it's a holy war. First of all, 420 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 7: he calls it a holy war, and. 421 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 6: He says, if you die, you will immediately go to 422 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 6: heaven and be blessed. I mean, it's it's bananaus, right 423 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 6: and right. So that's that's you run to excuse in 424 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 6: charge of the Russian Orthodox Church. So this isn't it. 425 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 7: It's not an issue of people who happen to be 426 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 7: Russian Orthodox there, you know they can be one people. 427 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 7: It's for leadership here that's really troubling, right, right. 428 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Anytime, anytime the church is being used, any church is 429 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: being used for political ends, we've got a we've got 430 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: a real, a real problem on our hands. The movie 431 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: of Faith under Siege when it when it came out, 432 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: I know I was invited to at least one of 433 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: the screenings that was done in DC. Tell us where 434 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: it is and how folks can find that. I got 435 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: to I've got to ask you before we go about 436 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: about about Artemis and your son. But let's let's talk 437 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: about the movie for just a moment. 438 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 7: Thank you. 439 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm grateful for this. The movie is called a 440 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 6: Faith under Siege. 441 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 7: You can find it at Faith under Siege dot com 442 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 7: and it is a sixty minute documentary where we interview 443 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 7: and go right to the front line. We talk directly 444 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 7: to members of clergy, pastors, priests, faith leaders, evangelical pastors 445 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 7: in Ukraine who have been persecuted by the really by 446 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 7: the Russian by the Russian troops, both physical. They've been tortured, 447 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 7: they've now killed a conservative estimate it's forty nine I'm 448 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 7: sorry evangelical or Protestant leaders inside of Russian occupied Ukraine. 449 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 7: They have bombed, shelled and looted over six hundred and 450 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 7: fifty churches inside Russian occupied Ukraine. They are actively targeting them. 451 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 7: They go so far as to claim that these are 452 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 7: all CIA spies and Western plants, right because again they're 453 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 7: not adhering to Russian Orthodox Church. And so I encourage 454 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 7: you to go watch it. It is free, it's on YouTube. 455 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: We have a number of different shorts as well. We 456 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 7: cover the persecution of the Jewish community in Ukraine, the 457 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: Catholic community. There are zero Catholic priests left in all 458 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 7: of Russian occupied Ukraine, either killed or driven. 459 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 6: Them all out. 460 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: Sarah, you're telling me that the Russians are persecuting Jews 461 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. I am shocked to hear this, given Russia 462 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: this record A sorry, yes, now. 463 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 7: I hear you've got a like I said, A great 464 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 7: mini doc again on YouTube. 465 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 6: If you go through our YouTube channel, Faith under Siege, 466 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 6: it's all free. 467 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: And I just want to I want to make this 468 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 7: clear for because I know that there's all kinds of 469 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 7: conspiracy things out there about who's funding what, right, because 470 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 7: Russia spends two to three billion dollars a year on propaganda, 471 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 7: and again that's a conservative estimate. This entire project, Faith 472 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 7: under Siege, and all of the documentaries, the mini docs, 473 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 7: everything we put out was funded by one man, an 474 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 7: American citizen. He lives in Colorado. He had never been 475 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 7: to Ukraine before. He happens to be a Christian. He's 476 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 7: a former marine. He's an incredibly good man and I've 477 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 7: gotten to know him. And he had been invited there 478 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 7: by a friend and he didn't want to go. It 479 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 7: was wartime, right, and he's set like businesses, farms and 480 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 7: life and kids. But he went and when he went, 481 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 7: what he saw was this persecution of the church. And 482 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 7: he was like, why am I not seeing this anywhere? 483 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 7: So he said, how can I what can I do? 484 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 7: And he took his own money, his own treasure he 485 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 7: and his wife made this decision, and they figured out 486 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 7: a way to hire a film team, an incredibly good 487 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 7: film team. I mean, when you watch this documentary, you 488 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 7: think you're watching something like on you know. I mean, 489 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 7: it's incredibly well done. But it's one guy, his own money. 490 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 7: To who funded this. There's no you know, shadowy Ukrainian 491 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 7: whatever here, right, a good American who wanted to get 492 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 7: the news out. 493 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not to you just sort of you. You're 494 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: not going to sit there and you're going to wait 495 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: a minute, I don't understand who funded this. So you 496 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: and I were training messages last night as I was 497 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: talking about coming on with me today, and I asked 498 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: you if you were, if you're watching the Artemus launch, 499 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: and you weren't, and I encourage you to do. So. 500 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: You've got a son who watched it and he was enthralled, wasn't. 501 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: He He was? He totally was. 502 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 7: And I was silly to, you know, think that it 503 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 7: wasn't important for him. 504 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 6: I mean, he's only three. 505 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 7: But I you know, I'm so grateful that we have 506 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 7: amazing people to look up to, like these astronauts. There's 507 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 7: you know, in particular, you know, I'm a Christian and 508 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 7: my faith is important to me and I want that 509 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: in my son and to be able to stand there 510 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 7: with him and hold him and pray as we were 511 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: counting down and just pray that the Lord told text them. 512 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 6: It was a beautiful moment. 513 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 7: And he loved the lift off, and he was so excited, 514 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: and as he watched it go up, he just kept 515 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: looking at me. 516 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 6: Going, where did the space show go? 517 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 7: Mama? 518 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 6: Where did it go? Where did it go? And I was. 519 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: Reminded just how big, how big, and how little we are, 520 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 7: how big this world and our and our universes, and 521 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 7: how little we are, but also how important it is 522 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: that we speak of about things that are important, because 523 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 7: if we don't, it's a wasted life. Amen, And all 524 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 7: of that just in that little moment watch an Artemis 525 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 7: take off, and we continue to pray for them every 526 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 7: day for their safety and success. 527 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. I 528 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: know what we're getting. We're getting your son for his 529 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: next Bertha. We're going to get I'm a little artemiscapsule 530 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: to play with. Our guest is Sarah Macon. She's a 531 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: former senior advisor to the President and the Vice President 532 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: of the United States. She's a film producer now and 533 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: an activist. You can find her on X at DC SAS, 534 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: d C SAS on X. Sarah, thank you so ver 535 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: much for joining us today. 536 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 6: Andrew, this was awesome. Thank you so much for having me. 537 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: You're welcome. You're welcome, and listen, guys, if you want 538 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: a longer form conversation, we get more into depth. I'm 539 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: going to sit down with Sarah next week on my 540 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: lunch Hour, my Federal News Wire lunch Hour podcast and 541 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: really unpeel all of the work, the good work that 542 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: she is doing. But go and check her out at 543 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: dc SAS, DC SaaS on X. I'm Andrew Langer in 544 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: for Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. Nice. I'm 545 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: sorry just now, I'm just captivated by the music landing. 546 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Hi everybody, I'm Andrew Langer for Tony Today. If you 547 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: haven't pulled Space Trucking, pulled that, as pulled that as well, 548 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Little d Purple cut there anyway, so we're back. I 549 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: was so enjoyed talking to Sarah Macon and yes I 550 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: do have my own IMDb profile. Crazily enough, I was 551 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: in both Atlas Shrug Parts two and three. I think 552 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: only my Atlas Shrug Part three appearance is listed in 553 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: my IMDb pro profile. So strange, so bizarre. But you 554 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: go and go and go and check that out. Listen. 555 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: So let's let's go back here. Obviously, the President gave 556 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: a speech last night. And by the way, we are 557 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: waiting with baited breath to finally get confirmation about Pam 558 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Bondy getting fired. But if she goes right, we got 559 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Pam Bondy, you got Christy Nome and the possibility of 560 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: a Tulsa Gabbard also being on her way out. I 561 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: would listen. I would not mind seeing Sarah Macon as 562 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: a Director of National Intelligence, but that's just me. I 563 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: will float that. But so the President gave a speech 564 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: last night. Here is a supercut of Late night hosts 565 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: criticizing the speech and Lawrence Jones pushing back, let's ahead 566 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: and play number ten. 567 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 7: He makes clear in those statements that he makes tonight 568 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 7: that this is a war of his choosing. 569 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: We didn't have to be there, We just went to 570 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: help how pooh why? 571 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 8: And there was been of a you know, inherent contradiction 572 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 8: in saying that the objectives are very nearly complete it's 573 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 8: almost over, but we're going to attack Ron into the 574 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 8: Stone Age over the next few weeks. 575 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Trump is on course to get a thank you card 576 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: from the Ayahtolas this year. 577 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: This speech was a disaster and then my up or down. 578 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 9: It was a big night on all the broadcast networks. 579 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 9: Donald Trump at nine o'clock gave a national primetime address. 580 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 9: It was concise, intelligent, and brought the nation together with 581 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 9: shared purpose. 582 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: April fools Trump, these people, I just can't even with 583 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: these people. 584 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 5: True. I think it's shameful right now, we're the The 585 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: president doesn't deserve some credibilion it he earned the credibility. 586 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 5: We've had several military operations where we got in and 587 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 5: got out seamless, no casualties at the time. Some of 588 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 5: our troops got injured, but they were flawless in a sense. 589 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: And so now we have the big one, the big Inchilada. 590 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 5: That has been a threat for forty seven years, and 591 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: you made to tell me you're not going to give. 592 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: Him any credibility on his operation, No, none, whatsoever. 593 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: They can't. 594 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: It is they are incapable of giving the president any 595 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: kind of kudos, with very few exceptions, but they the 596 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: folks who were out there, whether it's the colbearers of 597 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: the world or the talking heads on em Snow. You know, 598 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: it's funny. We're we're gonna play talking about this birthright citizenship. 599 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: We'll play it at the top of the next hour. 600 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, you got Whoope Goldberg talking about this idea 601 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: that somehow breaks societal norms for the president to be there. 602 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: Now they are incapable of giving the president credit where 603 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: credit is due. And maybe that's my problem. Maybe maybe 604 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: maybe I'm part of the problem because I try to 605 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: call balls and strikes right, I complain about certain things. 606 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: Coming back to the regulatory stuff, it's it's uh. It 607 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: can be a conflict, a discussion point. You know. When 608 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: here's my philosophy. When your friends are empower friends quote 609 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: unquote friends, they may not be your actual friends. But 610 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: when folks who are on your team more or less 611 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: are in power, there are some folks who think you 612 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: should turn around and just pair it. Everything they say 613 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Right, never ever criticize, 614 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: And I'm someone who says, no, you should always be 615 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: keeping them honest either if they're doing something and you 616 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: want them to do more, tell them that you want 617 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: to do more, don't pre negotiate, don't negotiate it against yourself, 618 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: right or when they're going to do something patently stupid, 619 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: or somewhere in between. I'll give you a real quick example. 620 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: The USDA put out a request for comment on a 621 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: on a pilot program. They want to they want people 622 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: to report on how much food waste they're generating. And 623 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: I get it. I get what you want to do. 624 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that our snap money are 625 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: our our food stamp money is being spent properly. I 626 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: understand this. But what I don't want is to give 627 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, give the Kamala Harris the p Budage Edge, 628 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: the Gavin Newsom administration the power to start peering in 629 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: my garbage can for whatever reason, whatever pretext. I know, 630 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: maybe I'm the idiot for doing this. Maybe I'm not 631 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: being helpful because I'm trying to call balls and strikes, 632 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, with something I learned when I when I 633 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: worked at the National Federation of Independent Businesses back back 634 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: many many months ago, in fact, joining US from NFIB. 635 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Josh McLeod. He is the director of Federal Relations for 636 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: NFIB he'll be joining us the next hour. I'm Andrew Langer. 637 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today