1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: We're back and it's Colts Corner with myself, Kevin Bow 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: and Eddie Garrison has across the way. Two preseason games down, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: one to go, eight days away from roster cuts. Boy, Eddie, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: I cannot recall a time where I have had to 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: factor in this many injuries with roster cuts for the Colts. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: So I think that'll be a big. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: Thing to monitor here over the next eight days and 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: again Colts Packers on Saturday will recap that, and it 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: sounds like a quarterback decision could be imminent. If our 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: podcast history as any sort of foretelling Eddie Garrison, they 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: will announce that what probably right after we get off here. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: Oh if I had to guess, Yeah. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: Honestly, it wouldn't stun me. If changed I can hold 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks today, that would be Monday, and then announce 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: it tomorrow. You know, if he's saying he tomorrow he 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: meets the media. Is why I reference that little after 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: eleven am. So we'll obviously update you as it happens. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: How are you, sir, I'm good. Busy weekend. If you 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: are listening to us in the Fort Wayne area, I 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: highly recommend going to the Electric works. If you're in 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: if you're a Central Indianapolis listener, it's very similar to Bottleworks. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm taking Bottleworks fan and the garage fan 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: up there. 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: It's more of the garage that That's what I should say. 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: The city market e is how I've described it to people. 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly. That's what's gonna make the comparison if you're 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: going to a tin capscheme in Fort Wayne. I mean, 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't know regular in terms of going to Fort Wayne, 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: but highly recommend if you can't figure out something to 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: go there because Olivi and I have two different palettes. 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: One is much pickier than the other, and we were 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: trying to figure out lunch and we walked through there. 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: I got what I wanted, she got what she wanted, 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: and boom, there we go. 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: That sounds like a successful day for the couple. 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: And then yesterday I got to do that fever come back, 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: largest come back from history KB. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the wilder ones. 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Would you do this weekend there? 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: What did I do? 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: We did a little lemonade stay and we went on 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: a walk for one of my wife's friend's daughters. 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: What do we do? 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Sausage Fest a local street festival in our in our neighborhood. 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: So that was enjoyable. 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: It was hot, certainly, but good time of the family. 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: And now what do we have birthday party? My nephew 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: turned five. 49 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: Shout out to the great ben Lubbers and here we are. 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Well, we need to get into the podcast, but you 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: left a traumatic part about your weekend out of there. 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: From my understanding, Oh what am I missing? What was this? 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: I heard on the morning show with you sunglasses and 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: a porter potty? 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: Yes I did. 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I reached into the porter potty to say the sunglasses 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: fight or flight? 58 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? 59 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: Max Bow when having some trouble getting the old PAWP 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: patrol underwear down to the ankles. So as I was 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: trying to help him do that and attempt the potty, 62 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: next thing you know, the glasses were and there it 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: was fight or flight. They weren't submerged. They were sitting 64 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: there and I said, you know what, I think I'm gonna. 65 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: Grab them, grabbed them? 66 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: Did you tell? 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I have. I don't know if 68 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: I have, should. 69 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: I I'm not shaking your hand, so well it was 70 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: left hand. 71 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: I don't care if you want to get a technical 72 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: on that. 73 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: So wait, wait, left hand that you had the wedd 74 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: ring on? 75 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: Correct? 76 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't, but again, there wasn't some merge. 77 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 78 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I got that deep into the old 79 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: porter potty. Have you never stuck your hand in the 80 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: porter potty? Oh? 81 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: No, no, you never. 82 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: Dropped anything in there? 83 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: No? Am I the only one? 84 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: No? Yeah, I don't know. No, I would never. 85 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Are you saying that? Not one of my finer moments. 86 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: The only way I could hear you out is if 87 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: you had expensive prescription sunglasses. That's the only way I 88 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: would hear you out. That's no, that's almost like Jerry 89 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Jones trying to shake Jake Querry's hand after taking a 90 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: deuce and not washing it. 91 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Someone tried to make the analogy, Oh, it's like the 92 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Colts having to reach into the old toilet to decide 93 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback battle. I don't know if that's necessarily apples 94 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: to apples, but nonetheless will transition to that Colts Packers 95 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: on Saturday, Daniel Jones gets the start. You know, I 96 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: thought the miss of Tyler Warren was a big miss 97 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: early on. You know, those are throws he's got to 98 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: bake but I thought that's right, say yeah, and they've 99 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: had so many snap issues with multiple centers and multiple 100 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and all of that. Yeah, in general, I just 101 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: thought it really poor opening drive for him. I thought 102 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: he bounced back nicely. I thought that second drive had 103 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: more of the types of throws you would want to see. 104 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: I know, his yards per at temp number can get 105 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: a little skewy, but that is a really nice yards 106 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: per attempt number. You know, it helps in Miiley Cox. 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: What was it catch and run? I think it was 108 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: north or ten, which is huge for Daniel Jones. So 109 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, I thought, again ending with the scoring drive. 110 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Obviously like to see him finish it off. But you know, 111 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: that was definitely a much much more positive step than 112 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: what he showed on that first drive. You know, for Richardson, 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I thought that's the exact type of touchdown drive you 114 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: wanted to see from him five or six. You can 115 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: make the argument the incapletion wasn't even miss fault, you know, 116 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: just methodical, on target, decisive throws. Everything you want in 117 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: his growth area. I think kind of happened right there 118 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: on that touchdown drive. You know, to Shane Steichen, the 119 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: situational change I think it was kind of a big 120 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: point for him in that second drive. You'd like to 121 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: see the offense he missed Gettings on that first throw. 122 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: You'd like to see Richardson hit that, and then they 123 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: got behind the change. Gosh, man, how many freaking penalties. 124 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: In that game? 125 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: Was that the most penalty game in preseason football history? 126 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I was in Fort Wayne Shall wasn't 127 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: able to really take in the game. 128 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: Gosh, I think there was twenty three combined penalties in 129 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: that game. 130 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: Just absolutely brutal, and so. 131 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, you know, again, that was I thought 132 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: it was one Richard's just better drives period, like regular season, 133 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: non regular season game. Yeah, I just thought it was 134 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: really sound from him and and Frankly needed, you know, 135 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: will it be enough? Obviously, we'll wait and see there. 136 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought both quarterbacks, you know, had some 137 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: positive moments, and you would want that to happen, considering 138 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: you're at least attempting somewhat of your starters out there 139 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: versus Green Bay not doing that, and definitely much better 140 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: than what we saw in that second drive. It is 141 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: kind of crazy, like if you had have told me 142 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: to start a camp Eddie Anthony Richardson's not going to 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: miss a single eleven on eleven rep. He is going 144 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: to lead the only touchdown drive between the two quarterbacks. 145 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: And yet, if you told me Daniel, if you literally 146 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: was like, hey, Kevin, who Shaneesack can get a name 147 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: as a starter right now, I'd say fifty one percent 148 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. 149 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: It seems like it's shifted in the last week or two. 150 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Because well, I think a Baltimore game was a sore eye. 151 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point. Joel Erickson was on our 152 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: show Quarrying Company on Friday and Jake said, Hey, this 153 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: quarterback competition seems pretty much it's gonna be uh antey 154 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: rich and he goes, ah, I wouldn't do that just 155 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: yet because because I'm not going to be shocked if they, 156 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: you know, label Daniel Jones as the Week one starter, 157 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: because there's probably things behind the scenes that we don't 158 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: get to see that that's not on the field that 159 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: would lead to Jones being the starter. Whether that's you know, 160 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: blitz pick up, whether that's understanding protections at the line, 161 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: calling out plays and audibly at the line, and those 162 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: sorts of things, meeting room stuff, obviously Shane Styke is 163 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: not in there, and then I saw Stephen Holder kind 164 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: of share the same thing on Twitter yesterday as well. 165 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've mentioned on I hope I've mentioned 166 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: on the podcast, but definitely on our morning show for 167 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: the last several months now, Shane Stykin likes Daniel Jones 168 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot lot more than I think fans realize, and 169 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: you just laid out a lot of the reasons why. 170 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: I think the simple element of who do you trust 171 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: more quarterback sits better with Shane Stike in of having 172 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones than Anthony Richardson. 173 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: You know, I go back to that Baltimore play. 174 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of one of those plays now 175 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: we saw play out, you know, pretty black and white, 176 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: but that is one of those Hey, ten guys are 177 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: on the same page and one's not. You know, that 178 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: is obviously an issue. It was kind of funny at 179 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: a post game I thought, not only Shane, but I 180 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: actually thought Daniel Jones had some comments that really really 181 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: stood out to me. You know, Shane had the quote 182 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: there about the operation, the communication throughout the checks, getting 183 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: guys on the same page. The consistency of that is 184 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: going to be a huge factor, Like we've heard that 185 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: Shane quote I think throughout. But Daniel Jones gets asked 186 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: and we're talking about in the Morning Show, and I 187 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: think it was James Boyd that asked him it, and 188 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: it almost had a feel of like, shows you how 189 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: much that the Bowen families. 190 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: Watched The Bachelor over the years. 191 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: It almost had that feeling of like it's right right 192 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: before the rose ceremony and the person all of a 193 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: sudden grabs a Bachelor of the bachs arette AND's like, hey, 194 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: can I can I go talk with you outside? And 195 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones gets to the podium on Saturday afternoon and 196 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you've listened to how many Daniel Jones press 197 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: conferences now, Eddie six seven eight, I mean how many 198 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: he's ever done? At the man says nothing interesting, nothing, nothing, 199 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's answering the question and 200 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I mean I really think you know 201 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: I've done what you know what's important to play quarterback, 202 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: and that's making decisions consistently and throwing the ball accurately. 203 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: And he said it in a very Daniel Jones voice, 204 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, if you literally asked me right now, 205 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: what questions do you have about Anthony Richardson. I would 206 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: say something to the effect of, I don't think he 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: makes decisions very consistently, and I think at times he 208 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: doesn't throw the ball very accurately. It was like Daniel 209 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Jones walked in there and was like, you know what, 210 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: I've got probably one final time to say something about 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: this competition. And I don't know, maybe I'm blowing this 212 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: out way out of proportion, and I'm not gonna act 213 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones is having some mal intent here with 214 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: his words, but I had to laugh at it, like 215 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: those words are exactly why you would be hesitant to 216 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: start the other guy. And here's Daniel Jones for the 217 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: first time at a press conference because he's probably scarred 218 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: from New York media, he's saying something that I find interesting. 219 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: And honestly, if he wins the job, that's probably gonna 220 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: be two reasons why he does win it. It's because 221 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: he does make decisions more consistently and he does throw. 222 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: The ball a little bit more accurately than Richardson. 223 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: And Richardson sounded weirdly kind of reserved to me after 224 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: the game, like almost reluctantly accepting that he might not 225 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: have won it, which is not i don't know, not 226 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: the same kind of forceful nature that he might have had. 227 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 228 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: I think I've made my thoughts known. I would start Richardson. 229 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: I I've probably made it clear over the years why 230 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: you need answers. He's the highest ceiling if you're on 231 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: the fence. Honestly, if you're on the fence with Daniel 232 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones weirdly would cost you more money than Anthony 233 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Richardson sooner. I don't know if that matters to people, 234 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: But like Daniel Jones is going to be a free 235 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: agent next year, Anthony Richardson is not going to be 236 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: a free agent next year unless you want him to 237 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: be a free agent, like you could pick up that 238 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: fifth year option and not have to commit you. If 239 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has whatever a season where some teams are 240 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: going to offer him more than fourteen million a year 241 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: in the open market, I mean, whatever, what did Sam 242 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Darnold get from the Seahawks or you know something, maybe 243 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: not at that level, but you know something along those 244 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: lines there. So yeah, to me, Daniel Jones is just 245 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: some sort of Jacoby Brissett Carson Wentz, Matt, Ryan Gardner, 246 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Minshew et cetera, et cetera. And I'm ready to see 247 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: if the excuses for Anthony Richardson are acceptable or if 248 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: they're not. So that's kind of where I'm at. But again, internally, 249 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is a very real possibility, very real. 250 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: What's the difference in terms of what the offense could 251 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: look like with Daniel Jones compared to Anthony Richardson. 252 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think I guess with Joan Us it would 253 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a you're staying out 254 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: of the horrific play. It's a little bit more methodical. 255 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: It's a little bit more questions about down the field stuff, 256 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: maybe a little less on the actual legs of the quarterback, 257 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: although he can still definitely make some plays with his legs. 258 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: You know. 259 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: With Richardson, again, is it a little bit more boom 260 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: or bust? Is it less of what you saw in 261 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: that touchdown drive, you know, the play to Anthony Gould. 262 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Anthony or Daniel Jones is making that 263 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: sort of play of avoiding the sack and then throwing, 264 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: you know, such a great ball down the field. Richardson 265 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: certainly has that ability, and you know, I think what 266 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: you're thinking with Daniel Jones is we have enough around him, 267 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: whereas with Anthony Richardson, it's a little bit more of 268 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: a hey, you know, maybe he could help us lift 269 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: that ship. And I think it's very difficult organizationally too, 270 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: of like, okay, what is the ideal direction right now? 271 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, is it a bleeper, get off the pot 272 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: sort of situation. I didnt think Carli ers Gordon had 273 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: a lot of necessarily strong takeaways from that media session, 274 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: or I should say the TV booth section with Greg 275 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: gray Shaw and Rick Venturiy during the game. I didn't 276 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: have any kind of grand thoughts from that, But yeah, 277 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I think so much of it comes down to the 278 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: Colts having a little bit of a one eighty on 279 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: their thought process of when Richardson was drafted. It was, Hey, 280 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: big players are so hard to come by in the NFL. 281 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: If you have a quarterback that can individually create them, 282 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: that's such a weapon. 283 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,359 Speaker 2: And you know, it's harder. 284 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: To sustain drives and you know, the rare stuff that 285 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: you can't drop up on a white board like you 286 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: need some of that in that position. And now it's 287 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: gone back to the man, if we could just get 288 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't constantly strike out. Do you have a 289 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: run game, do you have a past catching group, do 290 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: you have an improved defense? 291 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: And those are all I think questions that they're weighing 292 00:13:59,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: right now. 293 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Do you think the offense would be more consistent like 294 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: you would. 295 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: Volatility with the offense is probably the way I would 296 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: put it. 297 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. 298 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Part of me thinks you'd largely get to a similar 299 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: answer at the end of the season. Again, it might 300 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: not look like the same exact movie script, but does 301 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: it get to the same plot in week seventeen? You know, 302 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: that would be a question that I would have. Basically, 303 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: if the cults are going with Jones, what the cults 304 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: are saying is, again, the Giants had some sort of 305 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: dysfunction around him, and we feel like we have less 306 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: of that or none of that, and we think he 307 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: can be a quality player for us. 308 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot down to what you did like. 309 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: And as we noted last week on the pod, when 310 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: we get into the regular season KB on losses, typically 311 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: we would start with what you did not like and 312 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: then get into what you did like, and vice versa. 313 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: When the Colts win. But since it's the preseason, let's 314 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: look at the positives first. What were the positives out 315 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: of this game in your. 316 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: Opinion, Spencer Schrader, you know, booming that fifty six yarder, 317 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: hitting the other ones, locking up that kicker job into 318 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: my opinion, So I think you'd start there. I thought 319 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Crystal Mons had a pretty disruptive day back there at corner. 320 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: Again. I mean, it's kind of crazy. 321 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: A week ago he wasn't even on the roster and 322 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: now he's starting for you, giving your Kenny Moore situation, 323 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: and they get three passes defense than the only sack, 324 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: which probably will fall into the bad category. I thought 325 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the past rush needed to be a little better, especially 326 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: early in the game. But I thought Lamont and just 327 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: in general, Eddie, I think we've seen stickier coverage, like 328 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: just highly more highly contested coverage windows for quarters probably 329 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: the best way to put it there. So I'd say 330 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: that kind of fall into the positive category for me. 331 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, Jalen Travis got a ton of run at 332 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: that swing tackle position. He started at left tackle with 333 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman dealing with an ankle injury, and you know, 334 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: he looks to be a guy that you know could 335 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: very well be your week one swing tackle. 336 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: And you know, with Brad Smith and Burnard. 337 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: Rhym and both deal with injuries right now, it could be, 338 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, vital that you have those guys out there. 339 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: So I thought those were some of the things that 340 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of stood out to me. I thought, Joe Bachi again, 341 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: you can kind of see his instincts a little bit. 342 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I continue to like Jonathan Edwards, are intrigued by him, 343 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: the undrafted corner out of Tulane. He did get hurt 344 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: late with a concussion. And Daniel Scott, I know, he's 345 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: a huge Chris Ballard fan, third year safety, fifth round 346 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: pick out a Cow. He had the interception, so I 347 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: know we got called back, but I thought it was 348 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: still a nice individual play from Scott. And you know, 349 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: again dealing with Hunter Woller's injury right now and Nick 350 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: Cross a little banged up, what. 351 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: Do you have there at safety? 352 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: So I thought those were a couple of the individuals 353 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: that stood out to me. 354 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: And now what you did not like, I'm assuming is 355 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: going to start with ad Mitchell. 356 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, how much can you trust him in a 357 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: game that continues to be something that you point to. 358 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: I guess penalty wise, and we saw a ton against Baltimore, 359 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: Ton against Green Bay. I mean, how much of this 360 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: is just preseason emphasis versus how much of it is 361 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: real Colts issues. I mentioned I wanted to see more 362 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: out of that pass rush. You know, they let there's 363 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: like a third and ten on that opening drive where 364 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: I just thought Willis had way too much time to 365 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: operator from the pocket, set up an ability to go 366 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: for the fourth and short. And then again that that's 367 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: your starting group against their backups. So I think that 368 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: was frustrating. You know, to play a sixty minute game 369 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: and you have no sacks from your d line. Let 370 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: me think about how many random offensive linemen the Green 371 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: Bay Packers are thrown in there, and there's not just 372 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: one bus that leads to that. So I think that 373 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: was a frustrating element, you know, offensively. Again, we've talked 374 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: about some of the quarterback stuff, and you mentioned Mitchell. 375 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: I would just say in the negative category, Eddie, you 376 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: have to say injuries right now, and again I don't 377 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: know if all of these are well, they're not seasoned 378 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: anybody means, but roster cuts are in eight days and 379 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: right now, let's go through the roster. I would either 380 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: have had these if I made a fifty three men 381 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: roster at the start of camp, I would have either 382 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: had these guys on it, or you can make a 383 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: strong case for them and or their charters. And right 384 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: now they're all dealing with injuries, some more severe than others. 385 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: At running back, Tyler Goodson and Khalil Herbert. At wide out, 386 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: Alec Pearson, Josh Downs on the O line, Blake Freeland 387 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: has broken his leg, and Bernard Ryman and Braden Smith 388 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: flip out of defense. Quitty Pay dealing with an injury. 389 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: Right now, you go to linebacker. Franklin is practicing, but 390 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: again we still have sets yet to see him. 391 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: I think kind of fully let loose there. 392 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: You go to corner obviously, Kenny Moore, Jalen carl Yeah, 393 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: Jaylen Carli is in a boot. At linebacker with that 394 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: ankle injury. You go to corner obviously, Kenny Moore, Juju 395 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: Brent's Jalen Jones. I should have mentioned Samson Ebcom on 396 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: the D line he left the joint practice of the 397 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: back injury. And then as safety right now, Nick Cross 398 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: and und Woller, I mean Adie. That's like fifteen names 399 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: fifteen of your fifty three, if you want to look 400 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: at it in that light. Yeah, so I got no 401 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: idea what they're gonna do at some of these positions. 402 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: In terms of roster cuts, you know, how many of 403 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: these are you carrying extra guys here just to save 404 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: yourself because a few of them might go ir to return, 405 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: like as Josh Downs's hamstring good to go by week one? 406 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, like these sorts of questions that you have, 407 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: like are you carrying coleman Owen because you need an 408 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: extra slot guy? Are you carrying Jonathan Edwards because you 409 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: need an extra corner. 410 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: Exactly? 411 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: The running back I all missed, the undrafted free agent 412 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: there are you carrying him? So, boy, I cannot recall 413 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: the last time I've had this much injury related convo. 414 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Usually you got a couple names that you're debating their 415 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: health situations. Downs last year when he you know, suffered 416 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: the injury in camp ankle, and again you kept them 417 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: on the fifty three. I think you missed the first 418 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: two games. So now you've just got a lot more So, man, 419 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: roster gymnastics are going to be something here in the 420 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: next eight days. And you know Colet still have one 421 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: more preseason game to go, and they've got three practices 422 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: this week and so again to be a regular season mode. 423 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: I think the media is allowed to watch full practices 424 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: this week. No more camp in terms of Grand Park 425 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: or fans there, but I think we are allowed to 426 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: watch the full ones. So yeah, that probably covers everything, 427 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, outside of the penalty situation, good and bad. 428 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: For Twitter questions to get to, we will start with Holmes. 429 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: Do you think retaining Chris Ballard cutting Sheene Steichen's leash 430 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: by a year? I understand reasoning on questioning Ar, but 431 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: this level of pressure on stike In and Ar seems 432 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: a yearly a year early due to being attached to Ballard. 433 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: You know, if there's one thing I could say regarding 434 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, Carli Rosa Gordon's comments, I think she wants 435 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: that GM and head coach on the same page. I 436 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: e hired together, So I don't I don't know. I'm 437 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: a little like I guess I don't necessarily think that, 438 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, you necessarily have the Shane Sticken's leashes change. 439 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I totally fall that, to be 440 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: honest with you, you know, she of course was in 441 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the thick of it with Pagano and Gregson. So I 442 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: think that does did rub her the wrong way, and 443 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that is concerning to her moving forward there. 444 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: So you know, it is difficult. They're on such different 445 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: time frames in terms of their NFL lives, But how 446 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: do you handle that aspect to it? So I don't 447 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: think it cuts Shane's leash necessarily. 448 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I'm thinking about it out loud. Maybe 449 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm the one a little confused. 450 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: I guess I think everybody is tied together. So yeah, Holmes, 451 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: you might be right on that. You know, do you 452 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: usually give a coach four years? I don't know, is 453 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: it three years? 454 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 455 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: Owners have obviously done a variety of things here lately 456 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: with their head coaching situations. But I guess I think 457 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: that if Ballard goes, Psichon will go and vice versa. 458 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: Connor is next. What's your take on this? Bull prediction, KB, 459 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: I predict this is Connor speaking, not me Yetti. The 460 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 3: Colts will be a top ten defense next year. Connor 461 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: thinks Chris Ballard's strategy to drafting high raz players will 462 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: pay dividends with a dynamic defensive coordinator like lou An Arumo. 463 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: The peak Eberflus reached when he was the Colts defensive 464 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 3: coordinator shows potential when utilizing raw athleticism. Bidamin Ward adjoining 465 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: should minimize the explosive plays that plagued the Colts last season. 466 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Boy, Top ten would be obviously a huge jump. You know, 467 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: what I've seen so far again is a lot more 468 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: contesting at the back end. 469 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: I think it's really walcome welcome. 470 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: I thought the stunts were actually pretty effective on Saturday 471 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: in terms of creating pressure versus more just kind of 472 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: individual winners necessarily. You know, I'll go back to it's 473 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: that we've talked about here with twenty twenty five Colts. 474 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: You can make the playoffs via three ways. One better 475 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: quarterback play, two better pass catching, three better defense. And 476 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: right now I'd be most confident in pass catching and 477 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: better defense. And if you got the same level of 478 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: quarterback play but had better pass catching, better defense, would 479 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: that be enough to get you in? I mean, certainly, 480 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: if you're making a jump to top ten, like Connor 481 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: says here, I. 482 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: Mean you think it would be I think it'd be close. 483 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: I think that the South is wide open. 484 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: You're asking for maight wins to ten. 485 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: Now, one thing I do have a little question right now, 486 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous without the old line, Like I 487 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: don't think a great camp necessarily for Braden Smith now 488 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: he's a little banged up. 489 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: You know. 490 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: Depth on that O line I think is a question 491 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: as well. 492 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: The Packers starters had a pretty good joint practice against 493 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: that line up. 494 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: The Packers D line just feasted, feasted on the Colts. 495 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: So that where that is a concern of mine. That 496 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: is a question of like I can sit here and say, okay, 497 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: here are three areas where the Colts weren't very good 498 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: last year, quarterback, pass catching, and defense, and they could 499 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: all make improvements this year. 500 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 501 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: Now the smart bet is probably not on all three 502 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: of them, maybe one or two. Okay, what about the 503 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: other areas that like you were good in last year? 504 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: Could they take oh line is one of those of 505 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: like you were good in it doesn't take a step back. 506 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: That is one that is of concern to me. 507 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Conroy is next KB. Let's say the Colts start Daniel Jones, 508 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: he lights it up, and the Colts make the playoffs 509 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: and get one and doned do the Colts extend him 510 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: And conversely, if Anthony Richardson gets this starting spot and 511 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: the Colts make the playoffs and they get one and doned, 512 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: do the Colts extend and that's the end if our 513 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: quarterback search for the immediate future feels like we are 514 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: still so far away with either of these outcomes, and 515 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: if we sign out for one of these horses, it 516 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: may be signing up for mediocrity. Limbo, Sorry for the 517 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: worthy question. Just been thinking about this a. 518 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: Ton, Yeah, and I largely think that's what a lot 519 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: of Colts fans are thinking about. 520 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 3: It's the Minnesota Vikings Dilima, right. 521 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I would start here. Why is the 522 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: reason that you're getting to that record? Is it the 523 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: quarterback is carrying a first year defensive coordinator or is 524 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: it vice versa. Yeah, I'll go back to what I 525 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: said to kind of lead things off. You know, Richardson, 526 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: it's just the fifth year option. You'd financially be committee 527 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: to Oh wow. 528 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: Breaking news and Howard Zavian, Howard, Wow, look at that. 529 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: I know there's some interest in Miami potentially, is they've 530 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: been dealing with a lot of injuries, So so what 531 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: are the Colts need right now outside corner, third corner. Yeah, 532 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: because it's been Jonathan Edwards as that starting guy. So yeah, 533 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: Jalen Jones, Juju Brents. Maybe those injuries are pretty severe. 534 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, boy, that would be a very veteran cornerback room. 535 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: How many starts does Howard having his career? You imagine 536 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: add up the starts of Howard Ward and Kenny Moore. 537 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: That's a lot of starts right there. So again on 538 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback front, it's Jones. You know, he's a free 539 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: agent and you'd be committing multiple years and a lot 540 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: to him, whereas with Richardson it's just that fifth year option. 541 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: I think one more thing to add too is like 542 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: do you view this twenty twenty six quarterback class as 543 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: a really strong class? And if you do, then do 544 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: you feel the need to tap into it? I am 545 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: curious with carl Arsa Gordon does she have non in 546 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: house people that she's confiding in for this. 547 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 548 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: You know, who are. 549 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: The people that, like you were trusting to talk about, Hey, 550 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: what does that quarterback class look like? What is this 551 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: a good time to kind of rebuild and restart things? 552 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Who are those people for her? 553 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: How are ninety nine starts in eight years. 554 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: What was last year for him? 555 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: He played thirt He didn't play last year. He was 556 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: last on the field in twenty twenty three he played 557 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: thirteen games. 558 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: So obviously still a question mark about a guy that 559 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: hasn't played in a while. 560 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Jamie's next. The way I see the Colts 561 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: quarterback and team results, Daniel Jones, The Colts go nine 562 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: and eight or eight to nine. If it's Anthony Richardson 563 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: five and twelve or twelve and five KB, what do 564 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: you always say, be really good or really bad? Do 565 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: not be in between? That says Anthony Richardson to me. 566 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: Quarterback purgatory is quarterback hell. 567 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 568 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: I've said that a million times, and I'll see it again, 569 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: said again. So yes, I can hear you on that. 570 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: Does nine and eight keep your job? 571 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: Boy? I don't. I don't know. 572 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't. 573 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so. 574 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: But you know, again, how does that nine and eight 575 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: actually look actually transpire? You know, I'd also think it's 576 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: not a slam dunk of Hey, just because you make 577 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: the playoffs, does that, you know, wash away all your 578 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: sins sort of things? So I'm not necessarily thinking that 579 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: is one thousand percent the case as well. 580 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: Howard missed last season with a foot injury. How old 581 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 3: is he gotta be close to thirty or thirty two? 582 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: What? Yeah, So we'll see the Colts kick the tires 583 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: on a player that certainly at one point was at 584 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: its feat But man, when it goes at corner, it 585 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: can just go. 586 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: He was born July fourth of nineteen ninety three. 587 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: Hell, he's one of the oldest players on the Colts roster. 588 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's fit in these last two questy the oldest? 589 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: Uh could be? I'm not sure what? Uh? Maybe? 590 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 591 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: Tyler. As appealing as it may seem to have Trey 592 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: Hendrickson on the Colts, Tyler feels the Colts shouldn't explore 593 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: that trade. That trade will likely command a high draft 594 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: pick in the Colts a starter as well as a 595 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: very high capit for his new contract. This team isn't 596 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: near good enough to be one pass rusher away from 597 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: being a Super Bowl contender. Do you agree or disagree? 598 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: And do you see the Colts actually being interested in 599 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: having a conversation with the Bengals. Have a great week 600 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: and stay cool, boy. 601 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: That is an understatement lou An Arumo history with Howard. 602 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: What did Howard start his career with. 603 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: The Dolphins twenty sixteen, So yeah. 604 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: He does. 605 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, dB Coacher's first two years. 606 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: Twenty nine career interceptions. 607 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: There you go. I think. 608 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Is this in regard to the Trey Henderson question. 609 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, because of the report was that yesterday that they're 610 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: listening to offers on him? 611 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: Right, this goes back to me. It's Terry McLaurin and 612 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. I just think you're frozen as a franchise 613 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: right now. I just don't think you can entertain these 614 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: sorts of questions here. So until you get out of 615 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: that and you find the future quarterback and the franchise, 616 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I've always heard that green Bay 617 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: wanted Jonathan Taylor. The Colts wanted a first round pick, 618 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: but green Bay felt like they couldn't give up a 619 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: first round pick because they had to be in position 620 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: in case Jordan Love didn't work out. Now, obviously Jordan 621 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Love has worked out, but that was prior to the 622 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three season when Love had yet to really play. 623 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I do with the cult 624 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: are right now. You just aren't in that sort of position. 625 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: And then the final question on today's podcast is from Justin. 626 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: The Colts have never been great in screen game, but 627 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: occasionally there are some great plays, but I feel damn 628 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: near every one of them involves the Colts having an 629 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: illegal man on field. I understand timing is key there, 630 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: but I don't know how Shane Styke can continue calling 631 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: those types of plays when they dig us in a 632 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: hole more times than not. Sorry for the rant. What 633 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: are your thoughts? Boy? 634 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: Penalties just galore? 635 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: I just there were a ton of penalties Thursday at 636 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: the joint practice. So you know, Shane second teams have 637 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: largely been disciplined, largely been a good. 638 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: Non often penalized team. 639 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: So again I try to always factor in some past 640 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: president when thinking about these things, Eddie, so it's not 641 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: as alarming. But you know one thing about this year's Colts. 642 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: You're not potent enough to overcome this stuff. This gets 643 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: back to the O line thing with me. 644 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 645 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: You're not the greatest show on turf. You can't live 646 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: behind the chains. We saw it on Sunday or Saturday 647 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: when Anthony Richardson's drives got behind the chains. 648 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: What happened. It didn't go well. 649 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: No, when Tyler Warren, when Daniel Jones gets behind the 650 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: chains and it's a third and long and boom, he 651 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: misses Warren. Like, that's not going to go well. So 652 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: obviously every offense is trying to avoid that. But I 653 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: only the cults are dynamic enough to overcome that. 654 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: Okay, that runs out. Twitter questions, KB, do. 655 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: We have to come back right away after they announce 656 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: a quarterback? 657 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: I feel like we should. 658 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we could. 659 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: Be talking to you soon, very soon, so we'll see 660 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: how that plays out again. Cincinnati game on Saturday, and 661 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: the roster cuts. 662 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: A week from Tuesday. He's ed a Garrison. 663 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Bowen, Thank you, Coltscorn with Kevin Bone signing 664 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: off