Speaker 1: Live, Rumball, Heartbyer and the Crossroads of America.
Speaker 2: It's Tony Kats today. So we have a deal with
Speaker 2: a Ran and now there's peace in our time. Hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on, I've heard that before. I have a hard
Speaker 2: time trust in guys named Neville. It's an occupational hazard.
Speaker 2: I guess. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, guys, good to
Speaker 2: be with You. Find everything I do over at Tony
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Speaker 2: find it at Tony Kats. It's not a deal.
Speaker 3: It's not a deal. I don't know what what what
Speaker 3: we're thinking, what we what we actually believe here? But
Speaker 3: what if I'm wrong? And I had to ask myself
Speaker 3: that question earlier. You take a look at what has
Speaker 3: just happened with.
Speaker 2: We're gonna open up the strait of our moves and
Speaker 2: Iran agrees to this, and Rand agrees to that, And
Speaker 2: you say to yourself, Ran doesn't agree to any How
Speaker 2: can I Ran possibly agree to anything? Iran can't agree
Speaker 2: because Iran doesn't have control, the IRGC has control. Any
Speaker 2: amount of leadership. You want to talk about you can
Speaker 2: talk about it from now and to the end of time.
Speaker 2: They don't have control. The FIM Minister doesn't have control,
Speaker 2: the president doesn't have control, the Iatola doesn't have control.
Speaker 2: Because the Iatola clearly has no control. I don't believe
Speaker 2: the Iatola is alive. By the way, the old Iatola
Speaker 2: is dead. The new Iatola I don't think is alive either.
Speaker 2: Any conversation they have is these are frauds for people,
Speaker 2: So why would I trust them?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I would put forth to you that there is no
Speaker 2: top leadership, and the top leadership that may exist has
Speaker 2: no control of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. And I
Speaker 2: put forth to you that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
Speaker 2: has no connection to each other, none whatsoever, zero connection
Speaker 2: to each other. They are acting independently. They are acting
Speaker 2: in their own self interest, and they are acting well
Speaker 2: as radical ideologues would act. They want destruction. We understand
Speaker 2: the rational mind that they want no deal whatsoever. Anybody
Speaker 2: who thinks that Iran wants a deal is out of
Speaker 2: their head. Iran wants destruction of Western civilization period. End
Speaker 2: of discussion. We can move on from that. But I
Speaker 2: have to ask myself a question, what is it that
Speaker 2: I'm looking at? What is it that we are all seeing?
Speaker 2: What is it that we are all dealing with here?
Speaker 2: What started this? Well, what started this was a NonStop
Speaker 2: bombardment campaign that then led to, Hey, they asked us
Speaker 2: not to and they're going to make a deal and
Speaker 2: we get a memorandum of understanding. The memorandum of understanding
Speaker 2: is we said was nonsense. We said it from the beginning.
Speaker 2: There was nothing there that was legitimate, nothing there that
Speaker 2: was real, nothing there that we should hang our hat on,
Speaker 2: move on, move on. Now. Some people said, well, the
Speaker 2: memorandum of understanding allows them to get a lot of money,
Speaker 2: so it's not nothing that's legitimate. I thought that was
Speaker 2: a legitimate argument that what happens in this memorandum of
Speaker 2: understanding is that they're able to get access to cash
Speaker 2: because we're going to take off the economic blockade allowing
Speaker 2: them to sell oil billions of dollars. We shouldn't allow
Speaker 2: them a single dime, let them starve economically, and then
Speaker 2: what do they do. They screw it all up. They
Speaker 2: screw it all up, because how could they not screw
Speaker 2: it all up? This is who they are, This is
Speaker 2: what they do. They can't make a deal. Deals mean
Speaker 2: they can't do what they want, which is destroy Western
Speaker 2: civilization and bring about Islam across the globe. This is
Speaker 2: the desire, you say to me, Tony, there are other
Speaker 2: Islamic nations that they're attacking. Don't we understand that that
Speaker 2: part is inconsequential. Of course, they'll attack other Aslamic nations.
Speaker 2: They'll decide that that one isn't doing it right, and
Speaker 2: that one isn't doing it right. No one ever discusses
Speaker 2: the Soni Shia fights, et cetera. I shouldn't say no one,
Speaker 2: not enough people. So the MoU gets blown up, and
Speaker 2: so what do we start doing? We put back the
Speaker 2: economic blockade and then bam Powell ping. It's like Batman
Speaker 2: meets Joe Peshi. We're knocking the snot out of people.
Speaker 2: Things are blown up, getting destroyed. And then you hear
Speaker 2: that President Trump is willing to go all the way.
Speaker 2: He is willing to knock out the desalinization plants. He's
Speaker 2: willing to knock out the power plants. He's willing to
Speaker 2: knock out the bridges, he's willing to knock out infrastructure.
Speaker 2: He's willing to cripple the region. I'm willing to make
Speaker 2: a deal, and then you don't make a deal. I'm
Speaker 2: not putting up with that. And that led to this
Speaker 2: talk before the weekend. He was getting him harder than
Speaker 2: ever before. But what happens, well, magically, I say magically,
Speaker 2: because we have all seen this story numerous times. Magically,
Speaker 2: what happens is that all the neighboring countries they came
Speaker 2: to the President and they said, let's not let's not
Speaker 2: have you do this and take out this, and take
Speaker 2: out that, and take out the other, and we'll get
Speaker 2: Iran to the table. And Iran will come to the table,
Speaker 2: and the Strait of our Moves will be open for
Speaker 2: sixty days and you'll see oil prices go down, and
Speaker 2: this will be great. And Iran says, we'll make the deal.
Speaker 2: Needs really seem fine with the deal, the President writing
Speaker 2: that the country of Israel joins me in this commitment
Speaker 2: of the immediate, complete and total opening of the Straight
Speaker 2: of our Moves and an end to Iran's nuclear threat.
Speaker 2: Based on this request, I've agreed, writes the President, for
Speaker 2: the future benefit of the world, and likewise, the survival
Speaker 2: of a successful and prosperous Iran to cancel the attack,
Speaker 2: and the decision is contingent on the parties being able
Speaker 2: to quote rapidly make a deal. At that moment, I
Speaker 2: first tweeted out if you followed me on X, I said,
Speaker 2: dejavou all over again. We've been down this road. Something different.
Speaker 2: What in the world is different. It's like Malcolm Gladwell's blink,
Speaker 2: like I know it's different, but I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. And maybe it's not different. Maybe I'm different.
Speaker 2: Something is different in this And I stopped myself and
Speaker 2: I said, what is it that I'm looking at here?
Speaker 2: This makes no sense. This is the same old stuff,
Speaker 2: the same old song and dance. Why would you believe it?
Speaker 2: And I read and I'm looking and I'm paying attention
Speaker 2: to this one, that one the other one. And I
Speaker 2: said to myself, perhaps what is different here? And I
Speaker 2: ask you only not necessarily for agreement, but at least
Speaker 2: the acceptance of what is possible. I say to myself,
Speaker 2: what if I'm looking at this all wrong? And what
Speaker 2: if I'm looking at the deal all wrong? What if
Speaker 2: no one is trying to make a deal with the
Speaker 2: Iranian regime. I am accurate in my assessment. I would
Speaker 2: take this on with anybody anywhere, at any time. The
Speaker 2: Iranian so called leadership doesn't exist. It has no control
Speaker 2: over the IRGC, none whatsoever. The IRGC is acting as
Speaker 2: independent factions, not one group of the IERGC or faction
Speaker 2: of the IOGC having any level of control or even
Speaker 2: connection with another. Everyone acting in their own self interest
Speaker 2: for their own ideological goals, whether that is dollars or
Speaker 2: whether that is a caliphate. Right, so everybody is acting
Speaker 2: the way they want to act. You can't make a
Speaker 2: deal with the IERGC at all. The leadership has no
Speaker 2: control of the IERGC, so a deal with them is meaningless.
Speaker 2: What if that's not where the deal is. Follow me here.
Speaker 2: I don't say I've got it perfect. I am asking
Speaker 2: a question of whether or not I'm onto something. And
Speaker 2: I know you're used to a lot of guys on
Speaker 2: radio always saying that they've got this and they know
Speaker 2: that and they're the experts. All they're sure. It's like
Speaker 2: the influencer class, the expert on this thing until social
Speaker 2: media is talking about something else twodays from now, and
Speaker 2: then they're an expert on that thing. Boring as hell.
Speaker 2: What if the deal that is being made has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with Iran and it has to do with
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, the uae Bahrain, Jordan, etc. What if that's
Speaker 2: the deal I discuss ending the regime. I'm a believer
Speaker 2: in regime change. I get that some people disagree with me.
Speaker 2: I believe that's the only way this group can be handled.
Speaker 2: We have discussed that when the US hits Iran, Iran
Speaker 2: doesn't hit Israel. No, what Iran does is Iran hits
Speaker 2: everybody else around them. They hit their so called allies, friends,
Speaker 2: like minded brethren, at least if you want to talk
Speaker 2: about being Muslim or Islamist, not in every case, in
Speaker 2: some cases is Lomist. And you say, why would they
Speaker 2: hit those people, Well, the answer is you hit these
Speaker 2: people so they will put pressure on the United States
Speaker 2: to stop bombing them. Hey, you're hitting Iran. Iran is
Speaker 2: hitting us. Would you please stop hitting them so they
Speaker 2: would stop hitting us. They are trying to engage their
Speaker 2: own level of protection and Iran being more and more
Speaker 2: backed into a corner. What will an animal do backed
Speaker 2: into a corner? Will lash out? You knew this without
Speaker 2: me telling you, So what other lash outs are going
Speaker 2: to happen. You think it's just going to be hitting
Speaker 2: US bases and Jordan. No, no, no, it's going to
Speaker 2: be going after their critical infrastructure. Iran can still do this.
Speaker 2: It's a great example, by the way, a messaging of
Speaker 2: if you think that Iran is bad, now is a problem. Now,
Speaker 2: can still engage in threats now? Can still try and
Speaker 2: decide the landscape. Now, imagine what happens if they had
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. You have to be out of your
Speaker 2: mind to think that letting Iran get close to a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon or thinking about a nuclear weapon is okay.
Speaker 2: You have to be certifiably insane. Oh hi, Marjorie Taylergreen,
Speaker 2: how you doing?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I wasn't really talking about you. I was just talking
Speaker 2: about people who are criminally insane. I see where you
Speaker 2: can be confused. You cannot let them get close, you can't.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I do agree that Iran has been at war with
Speaker 2: US for forty seven years. We don't have to be
Speaker 2: at war with Iran. Iran is at war with us.
Speaker 2: So what idea could we possibly have of saying they're
Speaker 2: not a threat to us, They're not a problem to us. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's no big deal. It's some of the most embarrassing
Speaker 2: childlike silly talk I have ever witnessed. Oh hey, Tucker, no,
Speaker 2: I was talking about child like silly talk. But I
Speaker 2: see where you could have thought I was talking about you.
Speaker 2: Miss You don't know what happens. I hope you figure
Speaker 2: it out. So what if the deal goes like yes,
Speaker 2: these other nations don't want to get hit, they don't
Speaker 2: want to have any threat to their critical infrastructure. They
Speaker 2: need another way. We start with Major Mike Lyons, retired
Speaker 2: United States Army military analysts you hear on the show
Speaker 2: very often talking about the idea of siege. He said,
Speaker 2: we need a siege, the economic blockade, keeping them locked in,
Speaker 2: letting them fall apart, feeling the economic crunch, and you
Speaker 2: should continue the bombing. That's what he said. But what
Speaker 2: if you have this, You keep up the economic blockades,
Speaker 2: you don't allow them to sell any oil, you don't
Speaker 2: allow any money to get to the terrorist groups, you
Speaker 2: don't allow them to function. They slowly start to crack
Speaker 2: under that pressure. You stop the bombing. So Iran will
Speaker 2: stop the bombing. But you say to Saudi Arabia, to Bachraine,
Speaker 2: to the UAE, to Jordan, what's in it for us?
Speaker 2: What do we get? What if that's the way the
Speaker 2: deal goes, Now we can have a real deep conversation
Speaker 2: about what do we get. I can give a couple suggestions.
Speaker 2: I don't have the answer. I can give a couple
Speaker 2: of ideas. Number one, the commitment of troops to go
Speaker 2: into Iran to end the IRGC. Saudi troops, Ue troops,
Speaker 2: Pokraan troops, Jordanian troops, they go in. Maybe they work
Speaker 2: with the Kurds. Maybe it's about them putting up the
Speaker 2: money to give the get the guns to the Kurds
Speaker 2: so the Kurds can take out the IRGC and the
Speaker 2: people can rise up. Maybe it's oil. We already see
Speaker 2: cracks and divisions amongst opek. We already see these changes
Speaker 2: happening from nations that want to make their money now
Speaker 2: and they don't want to have to wait it out
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty years, and they don't want other people
Speaker 2: out there deciding what the cost of oil should be.
Speaker 2: So it could be oil, it could be troops, and
Speaker 2: it could be that I'm wrong about both, because less
Speaker 2: than an hour from when I started talking, President Trump
Speaker 2: put out on true Social oh crap, Iranian leadership is
Speaker 2: unbelievably duplicitous. They asked for a meeting, some would say,
Speaker 2: beg talks begin with more schedule than the immediate future.
Speaker 2: And they say openly and proudly that they're not having
Speaker 2: any discussions, that nothing is being talked about, and they're
Speaker 2: only dealing with Oman. Then they go on to give
Speaker 2: their usual blatherer in saying the straight up, our mouds
Speaker 2: will be operated powerfully by them when it is already
Speaker 2: completely controlled by the United States Navy in our blockade,
Speaker 2: or as some say, the United States Wall of Steel.
Speaker 2: I have not heard anybody say the United States Wall
Speaker 2: of steel. That's awesome. Quote. Nothing gets through to Iran
Speaker 2: unless we want it to, and nothing will get through
Speaker 2: unless a deal or total surrender is accomplished. Now he
Speaker 2: hasn't said the words I want to make sure I'm
Speaker 2: clear on this. Someone double check me, Beth in the chat,
Speaker 2: get on it. He hasn't said the words total surrender
Speaker 2: in a while. That was talk in the beginning. He
Speaker 2: hasn't said that in a while. Nothing will get through,
Speaker 2: writes President Trump unless a deal or total surrender is accomplished. Quote,
Speaker 2: whether Iran wants to admit it or not, we are
Speaker 2: in fact talking of a solution to a problem that
Speaker 2: they have caused for decades. It is very simple. Iran
Speaker 2: will never have a nuclear weapon. Thank you for your
Speaker 2: attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. Maybe that
Speaker 2: just takes my entire conversation, throws it away. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: it proves the conversation true. We are in fact talking
Speaker 2: of a solution to a problem that they have caused
Speaker 2: for decades. He can be talking about it with the
Speaker 2: Iranians or whoever in the Iranian government. He could be
Speaker 2: talking about it with others. He could be talking to
Speaker 2: two different groups of people at the same time. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm right, but I don't think I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Who said the deal had to be with Iran? Maybe
Speaker 2: that is where the real deal making is. I'm Tony
Speaker 2: Katz in. This is Tony Katz today. So what happened
Speaker 2: with Morocco in this Spanish city state, if you will,
Speaker 2: which I have still not ever heard pronounced, I've only
Speaker 2: read it. I took off a couple of days, Tony Kats,
Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, good to be with you. I went
Speaker 2: up Chicago, caught a White Sox game. I almost cut
Speaker 2: off my finger. That's a true story. That's a true story.
Speaker 2: I got my finger caught a card door. I when
Speaker 2: I was a teenager. I think it was maybe I
Speaker 2: was twenty. I got my whole hand caught in a
Speaker 2: card door literally closed. I was just sitting there and
Speaker 2: someone closed the door and boom, and it hurt. But
Speaker 2: nothing got broken, nothing got cut. This I was talking
Speaker 2: to my oldest and we were going to the game,
Speaker 2: and I was doing this, and I was throwing something.
Speaker 2: I'm moving things around weight I'm gonna need that in
Speaker 2: boom caught the finger and I caught the finger, and
Speaker 2: my oldest you are right. I'm like, I need one minute,
Speaker 2: leave me alone, because I just needed to be like
Speaker 2: I can't believe I did that. How embarrassing that I did.
Speaker 2: And we're in this parking lot of this like hot
Speaker 2: dog stand where we parked near right field, which used
Speaker 2: to be Kamisky, and no one calls things what they
Speaker 2: are anymore. It's pathetic. And so I'm like, I look
Speaker 2: at the top of the finger and the top of
Speaker 2: the fingers cut. Its starting to bleed. I'm like, son
Speaker 2: of them, keep your calm, Tony, you've got band aids
Speaker 2: in the car. You know you do get it done.
Speaker 2: So I go into the car. I toss my sunglasses
Speaker 2: onto the roofs the hood of the car. I open
Speaker 2: up the door and I put my hand down to
Speaker 2: look for the band ad to put the left hand
Speaker 2: down where I've cut myself, right left pointer finger, and
Speaker 2: I go to reach and I slipped, and I realized
Speaker 2: I didn't just cut myself from the top, cut myself underneath.
Speaker 2: It's a real cut, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: Not great. I slid. I'm like, oh damn, well, I
Speaker 2: gotta go see a game. So we find the band aids.
Speaker 2: I have three band aids on there. We walk to
Speaker 2: a great field, which is just a couple of blocks
Speaker 2: from where we're parking, and my kid is like, are
Speaker 2: you gonna be all right? I'm like, dude, I don't
Speaker 2: feel any pain, which could be a sign of you've
Speaker 2: got a serious problem. You're just in shock. No, No,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't sever her anything or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I think a little harder of a door slam, and
Speaker 2: I could have never lost any color in the finger.
Speaker 2: So just a public service announcement, don't go see the
Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox, You'll die way is I don't have
Speaker 2: the message? Oh yeah, don't be a schmuck and get
Speaker 2: your finger caught in a car door. Just ridiculous. I'll
Speaker 2: get into the story about Morocco coming up. Just Tony
Speaker 2: Cats today. So President Trump was on a plane. It's
Speaker 2: like we're on a bridge, Charlie, but different Tony Kats.
Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. Good to be with you. And if
Speaker 2: you got that, you're you're my friend. We're on a bridge, Charlie. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: President Trump is flying an Air Force one and he
Speaker 2: has thoughts. As you you know, the man often has
Speaker 2: a lot of thought. I like BBC better than ABC.
Speaker 2: Is down on the team if they don't approve. But
Speaker 2: we have a man named dot Lage. He's outstanding in
Speaker 2: every way. Most of you know he is. You're not
Speaker 2: going to find a better US and everybody.
Speaker 7: And it's because in fact, that board is a vote
Speaker 7: that has a voted one on a last side.
Speaker 2: This is the only reason the recent sady.
Speaker 7: But I will say there are a lot of people
Speaker 7: that like people were hurting so bad that twenty few
Speaker 7: suicides they would destroy, their families would destroy.
Speaker 2: Now the President is talking about the weaponization funds, and
Speaker 2: we are going to dig into this because the weaponization
Speaker 2: fund is now dead and it's the weaponization fund that
Speaker 2: was keeping Todd Blanche from being confirmed. That seems to
Speaker 2: be over Tony Katz, Tony Cats that I forgot if
Speaker 2: I said hello, Sometimes I forget. But I'm going to
Speaker 2: dig into this about what it is that has happened
Speaker 2: here and the deal making that has taken place. He
Speaker 2: also spoke about the possibility of a deal with the
Speaker 2: Ran this is before in today's announcement, and why he
Speaker 2: isn't going forward with his planned attack many many years
Speaker 2: to ever build it back. I don't think it would
Speaker 2: be you would building a bet.
Speaker 7: So we had we had an attact that would be
Speaker 7: the biggest attack since World War Two, and it would
Speaker 7: have been disasters with them, and they didn't want us
Speaker 7: to do it. At frankly, I sad he Arabi didn't
Speaker 7: want it either.
Speaker 2: They're good that the deal is eminent and.
Speaker 7: The deal is eminent having to do with the hormos
Speaker 7: straight and also the ultimately that you go toolarization of the.
Speaker 2: Deal. The deal, the deal, It's gonna be lots and
Speaker 2: lots and lots of deals. And this is why I
Speaker 2: started listening to this as well, and I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: something I think that the deal might not be with
Speaker 2: a Ran, it might be with these, with these other nations.
Speaker 2: We will have more on that as well. We are
Speaker 2: keeping our eyes on the Michigan primary which is tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and how the DSA, the Democratic Socialists are rallying around this.
Speaker 2: Abdul Sayd going against Haley Stevens. Not that I'm a
Speaker 2: big Hailey Stevens fan, but she's at least not an
Speaker 2: Islamist and not a communist. She's more left than I
Speaker 2: would like. And I can show you polling that doesn't
Speaker 2: work out well for either one of them. Against the
Speaker 2: Republican Rogers for this Senate seat. In today's poll, the
Speaker 2: Epic Poll Rogers forty six, LSAAD forty three. I can
Speaker 2: show you one poll where Stevens is edging Rogers by
Speaker 2: two points within the margin of error. I can show
Speaker 2: you one POE where Rogers is edging Stephens by three points. Therefore,
Speaker 2: the race is a toss up. But it seems that
Speaker 2: said gives Republicans a better chance for victory. And this
Speaker 2: is the thing that should be concerning Democrats in primaries
Speaker 2: all across the country should be But doesen't. Why because
Speaker 2: when you are ideological first, and when you are afraid
Speaker 2: of Hassan Piker, you'll do anything and you'll say anything.
Speaker 2: But we now come to some newer parts about the DSA,
Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialists of America, who are communists. There is
Speaker 2: no such thing as a democratic socialist. It's a lie.
Speaker 2: I don't care what they say. I don't care that
Speaker 2: there's some website where somebody wrote a definition. They are
Speaker 2: what they are. They believe in dismantling the constitution. They
Speaker 2: believe in getting rid of private property rights. They believe
Speaker 2: that you should not be allowed to do anything they
Speaker 2: don't say you can do. They are what they are.
Speaker 2: They are communists. End of list. They now have taken
Speaker 2: to a support of China. Friends of Socialist China have
Speaker 2: nine hundred and fifty two signatories. This is a London
Speaker 2: based group to support the People's Republic of China and
Speaker 2: to promote understanding of Chinese socialism. May we stop? This
Speaker 2: is an actual story from the New York Post. Can
Speaker 2: we stop for just a moment? There is no such
Speaker 2: thing as Chinese socialism. They are communists, and if somebody's
Speaker 2: going to say, well, no, they're actually socialists. You don't
Speaker 2: understand at that moment, we're going to have to start
Speaker 2: institutionalizing people. Oh wait, they're allowed to actually walk free
Speaker 2: and vote like I do. They want to tell me
Speaker 2: that China's not a communist nation and they get a vote.
Speaker 2: What kind of crazy for Cocta country is this? But
Speaker 2: they do. They do get the vote, and no, they
Speaker 2: don't get institutionalized, although I'm still going to advocate for it.
Speaker 2: Eleven self described VSA members are among those who sign
Speaker 2: the pledge and resolve to support defend the build understanding
Speaker 2: of Chinese socialism. If you really need anything else, I
Speaker 2: can't help you. And if you are engaged with people
Speaker 2: who won't accept the fact that they're communists, who will
Speaker 2: try to defend this, you can't help them. The only
Speaker 2: people you can help yourselves, your family. It's the best
Speaker 2: you can do. And I have long understood that when
Speaker 2: it's a family composition, right, and everyone's still trying to
Speaker 2: you know, connect and get along. Okay, we disagree politically,
Speaker 2: but you know we can agree on we all love,
Speaker 2: you know, pick the team whatever I used to say.
Speaker 2: I understand that and then in the same breath, I
Speaker 2: would say things like, you know, when you're having your
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner, you do not have to invite that uncle
Speaker 2: who likes to scream and everybody or that aunt who
Speaker 2: likes to get political, and she's allowed to say whatever terrible,
Speaker 2: awful thing she wants. And then everyone tells you, don't
Speaker 2: say anything. Let's just get through this. No, don't invite
Speaker 2: the aunt. Why in the world would you put yourself
Speaker 2: through that? Why would we ever tell anybody to put
Speaker 2: themselves through that scool through that? Tell Aunt Matilda to
Speaker 2: eat alone with their five cats. You're not welcome in
Speaker 2: my house, Aunt Matilda. You're nasty or despicable. I don't
Speaker 2: want those politics anywhere near me. If you just not
Speaker 2: talk politics, we can at least sit and enjoy a meal.
Speaker 2: But you think you can say anything and I have
Speaker 2: to be quiet. Screw everybody. No, no, no, no, I'll
Speaker 2: start new traditions. I'll start new traditions with new people.
Speaker 2: And people said to me, oh, it's not very pro family.
Speaker 2: I push forth to you that family is not necessarily blood.
Speaker 2: Some people believe this from personal experience. Some people believe
Speaker 2: this because they just understand it to be true. I
Speaker 2: do not believe, and I've been saying this for years,
Speaker 2: that you have to put yourself through it. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I favor not putting yourselves through it.
Speaker 2: You deserve better. You don't have to put yourself through
Speaker 2: through the madness. I have come to believe this now
Speaker 2: about your children on a whole myriad of subjects. I
Speaker 2: have college age kids, and I'll tell you as clear
Speaker 2: as day that my relationship with them seems to be
Speaker 2: somewhat fantastic. I'm a fortunate, fortunate man. They're decent people,
Speaker 2: and they have unique interests and unique personalities as your kids.
Speaker 2: If you have kids, you know, regardless of the age,
Speaker 2: do as well, and you deal with them differently. Not
Speaker 2: everything is equal, which is I think the weirdest thing
Speaker 2: in the world. No, not everybody gets things that are equal.
Speaker 2: Each Each relationship has its own ebb and flow. I
Speaker 2: am fortunate to have a good relationship, to have a
Speaker 2: rational relationship, to be able to engage, to agree and disagree.
Speaker 2: Do my kids have my politics is a question that
Speaker 2: I get a lot, and the answer is someone They've
Speaker 2: got to figure out their path and their way. They
Speaker 2: have got to figure out as they engage with other people. Well, Dad,
Speaker 2: I engage with this group and that group at school,
Speaker 2: in this group and that group from my school, and
Speaker 2: they're all fine, Well you're talking about your friends. Are
Speaker 2: we talking about those groups at large? Do you have
Speaker 2: enough life experience yet to know? So it's not about
Speaker 2: being judgmental. It is about being clear. But things have
Speaker 2: to be experienced, some things don't. You can know somebody
Speaker 2: who is a boy who claims to be a girl,
Speaker 2: a man who claims to be a woman. You can
Speaker 2: know them, but you never forget that they're mentally ill.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what they say, it doesn't matter anything. You
Speaker 2: have to know that. You don't have to be mean,
Speaker 2: you don't have to be rude, you don't have to
Speaker 2: stop talking to them. You have to understand what it
Speaker 2: is that you're dealing with. If you know somebody who
Speaker 2: says they're a Communists, you have to know that they're
Speaker 2: a bad person who believes in murder. This is what
Speaker 2: communists do. This is their entire history. Now, the communists
Speaker 2: will tell you that communists never murdered one hundred million people. Well,
Speaker 2: of course the communists will tell you this. All communists
Speaker 2: are liars, at all times, at every time. They're a liar.
Speaker 2: They don't stop lying. They are such liars that they
Speaker 2: will tell you that China just socialists, you know, just
Speaker 2: some big social programs like Norway. Well then they call
Speaker 2: Norway a socialist country, which it isn't. But neither here
Speaker 2: nor there. China is a communist nation to which if
Speaker 2: you step out of line, you will be just appeared,
Speaker 2: where every action is recorded on camera. This is why
Speaker 2: I oppose flocks cameras and the other ones, the along
Speaker 2: cameras I believe they're called. All of that is government surveillance.
Speaker 2: I don't care if a CoP's job is made harder
Speaker 2: because the cameras are gone. The cameras have to be gone.
Speaker 2: But you don't think China's communism, you are a communist nation,
Speaker 2: you want to openly support them. The only thing that
Speaker 2: communists ever got right was the phrase useful idiots. And
Speaker 2: that's the DSA, all of their membership, all of their supporters,
Speaker 2: including alexandria A Kasu Cortez and Ayana Presley and Mashida Taliba,
Speaker 2: ilhan Omar and Bernie Sanders, all of them useful idiots.
Speaker 2: And thus I bring it back to your kids, because
Speaker 2: when your kids start saying they're a communist, you're supposed
Speaker 2: to tell them now, and you're supposed to say, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm not paying for that college anymore. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you don't come upon this on your own. Those people
Speaker 2: are putting crap into your head and you're acting in
Speaker 2: the dam. I won't pay for that. The answer is no.
Speaker 2: I have come around to the idea. I mean, certainly,
Speaker 2: I've always believed that you have to love your children
Speaker 2: enough to say no, and you have to recognize that
Speaker 2: you're the parent and not a friend. But I have
Speaker 2: really come around to voicing the concepts of you have
Speaker 2: to be proactive in the movements. I don't pay for
Speaker 2: that school. I don't pay for that car. I don't
Speaker 2: pay for you to be a part of that. I
Speaker 2: won't do it, and I won't sit there and listen
Speaker 2: to it in my home. And if you want to
Speaker 2: talk to me, you have to accept the fact that
Speaker 2: we will never ever have a place where I have
Speaker 2: to count out to you you're wrong. You have to
Speaker 2: love your kids enough to say so, because the DSA
Speaker 2: are communists and they are flat out dangerous. I'm Tony
Speaker 2: Katz and this is Tony Kats today. One more peace
Speaker 2: to add to the communists or the dssay also, don't
Speaker 2: forget that they're bigots in general. And this is Dana Nessel.
Speaker 2: I am no fan of Dana Nessel. Who in the
Speaker 2: world is Dana Nessel. Dana Nessel is the Attorney General
Speaker 2: of Michigan. Me. I'm Tony Katz. The show is Tony
Speaker 2: Kats today. You are fantastic and you look great in
Speaker 2: those genes. Dana Nessel will not be attending the Michigan
Speaker 2: Democratic Convention. Dana Nessel has said I can't go because well,
Speaker 2: I'm Jewish and that group is a serious issue and
Speaker 2: they are safety concerns. I feel like my president isn't
Speaker 2: going to be welcome. Let me say that again. I
Speaker 2: feel like my presence isn't going to be welcome. I
Speaker 2: don't want to get chased around. I don't want to
Speaker 2: get harassed. I don't want to get yelled and screamed at.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get booed off the stage, irrespective
Speaker 2: of what I'm saying. And I believe that if I go,
Speaker 2: that is what will happen, because it's happening to me
Speaker 2: Democrats are yelling, screaming, booing, and waiting their moment to
Speaker 2: attack the Attorney General of Michigan because she's Jewish. Hey, Tony,
Speaker 2: why are you armed?
Speaker 4: This is the.
Speaker 2: Reality of the situation. We all understand that this is
Speaker 2: the reality of the situation. What I've been trying to
Speaker 2: impress upon all of you for quite a few years
Speaker 2: now is that this is not about Jews. This is
Speaker 2: about Christians. You're the target. We are the easing stepping stone.
Speaker 2: Why because specifically liberal Jews are schmucks and they're more
Speaker 2: than happy to be utilized in their own destruction. I
Speaker 2: say this clearly. Maybe this is why I'm not asked
Speaker 2: to speak in so many synagogues. We Christians, this is
Speaker 2: about you. Jews are not the target. Jews are just first.
Speaker 2: It's about you, and man, I could really use your help,
Speaker 2: we all could in ending these threats.
Speaker 1: Keep it here, Tony Kats Today, Live, Rumball, Heartbyer and
Speaker 1: the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Kats Today. I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure there's anything left to say.
Speaker 2: About the WNBA. I mean, I've got the telegraphs talking
Speaker 2: about Sophie Cunningham as Basketball's new anti trans Maga poster girl.
Speaker 2: What when did you say she was anti trans? Girls
Speaker 2: should be in girls sports. Girls sports are for girls.
Speaker 2: That's anti trans. No, No, it's no, it's not. And
Speaker 2: who's still fighting this fight? And why?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: What we said here from the beginning was was that
Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham and the Indiana Fever has done absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: She has said absolutely nothing wrong. She said that girl
Speaker 2: sports should be for girls and that children is normal.
Speaker 2: It's the rational course. Tony Kats Tony Kats today, so
Speaker 2: good to be with you. Find everything I do with
Speaker 2: tonycats dot com. It was a story from The Guardian.
Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham isn't rejecting politics, She's cashing in on them.
Speaker 2: This whole article ends in the following manner. Sophie Cunningham
Speaker 2: has been in the league eight years. She'll be thirty
Speaker 2: later this month, five and a half years older than Clark,
Speaker 2: and for the large majority of those years she's been
Speaker 2: a serviceable, unremarkable player who was a top notch three
Speaker 2: point shooter. She wasn't even who the marketers picked to
Speaker 2: sell sex to the boys. The role of the glammed
Speaker 2: up blonde beauty baller belonged to six or four inch
Speaker 2: Cameron Brink. Cunningham needed the culture War to get on
Speaker 2: the map, needing it as much as it needed her,
Speaker 2: and all it took was a silly finger point and
Speaker 2: being in opposition as someone black to the aggrieved whites
Speaker 2: standing up to someone black men standing up for them.
Speaker 2: Add transphobia to her portfolio, and the result is a star,
Speaker 2: the latest participant in an old game no more complicated
Speaker 2: than checkers, but far less interesting. The author of this
Speaker 2: piece of a guy the name of Howard Bryant. Now
Speaker 2: that paragraph tells the story of part of the WNBA story,
Speaker 2: which is the media that covers the WNBA is desperate
Speaker 2: for that league to stay black and gay. Now I
Speaker 2: could get in a whole bunch of trouble for saying that.
Speaker 2: I could have people coming after me for saying that.
Speaker 2: I just quoted the author who said that's what we
Speaker 2: do here and put it in the context of white
Speaker 2: people are just so angry. No, white people aren't a group,
Speaker 2: like black people aren't a group, like gay people are
Speaker 2: in a group. They have their own minds and their
Speaker 2: own thoughts. Maybe, mister Bryant or anybody else if they
Speaker 2: could just stop be bigots for five minutes. We can
Speaker 2: have ourselves a better conversation. The issue here is that
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is a star. We know the story here.
Speaker 2: She's simply better than the rest. And even if she
Speaker 2: isn't actually better than the rest, she has captured the imagination.
Speaker 2: And that's the way it goes. You think Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: is really a super great songwriter and a super great voice,
Speaker 2: no part of that is true. She has captured the
Speaker 2: imagination and that's why it's stadium tour after stadium tour
Speaker 2: after stadium tour. That's what she was able to do.
Speaker 2: Dame Cook has sold out stadiums. Don't ask me captured
Speaker 2: the imagination for just a moment, I'll give you the
Speaker 2: most unpopular opinion in the history of mankind. Andrew Dice
Speaker 2: Clay was never that funny, but it was a really
Speaker 2: good routine. Captured the imagination and you wanted to be
Speaker 2: a part of it. The attitude was fun. Stadium tours,
Speaker 2: comics in stadiums, man, that's the goal. Because every comic
Speaker 2: wishes they were a rock and roll guy, wishes that
Speaker 2: they were a rock star. We know this to be true.
Speaker 2: Rock stars want to be actors. Actors want to be comics,
Speaker 2: comics who want to be rock stars. That I believe
Speaker 2: that is the circle of life. The WNBA has every
Speaker 2: opportunity to be better off because of Caitlin Clark. She
Speaker 2: captured the imagination. She brought people to the sport. She
Speaker 2: brought the players from commercial flights to private flights. She
Speaker 2: brought them better hotels, she brought them better contracts, she
Speaker 2: brought them more money. She did it. It's a lot
Speaker 2: to put on a twenty four to twenty five year old,
Speaker 2: but she did it. That's the end. Sophie Cunningham didn't
Speaker 2: come along to be a star because of Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2: She came along to be a star because the WNBA
Speaker 2: had no interest in having a star like Caitlyn Clark
Speaker 2: because she was too white and too straightened. Now that's
Speaker 2: a very rude thing to say, but I'm not the
Speaker 2: one saying it. I notice that they say it constantly
Speaker 2: and consistently, over and over and over and over again,
Speaker 2: overshadowing this one and overshadowing that one. The only reason
Speaker 2: people like hers because she's white in this and then
Speaker 2: the media needs a straight white woman as opposed to
Speaker 2: she brought the excitement, ride the wave. Call a penalty
Speaker 2: on her when it's her penalty. Call a penalty on
Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham when it's Sophie Cunningham's penalty. But because Sophie
Speaker 2: Cunningham has decided to be protective of Caitlyn Clark, because
Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham isn't a pread a fight, because she's able
Speaker 2: to utilize social media can make a moment like the
Speaker 2: meme of the point right, all the pointing, she gets
Speaker 2: attacked and vilified, and when playing the Minnesota Lynx, she
Speaker 2: gets elbowed in the face and she gets called for
Speaker 2: the penalty. Let me say it again for the people
Speaker 2: in cheap seats, she got elbowed in the face and
Speaker 2: she got called for the penalty. She didn't have the ball.
Speaker 2: The player with the ball elbowed her in the face,
Speaker 2: and Sophie Gunningham got called for the penalty. And then
Speaker 2: she had the audacity, the audacity to say that girl
Speaker 2: sports should be for girls, and that was it, That
Speaker 2: was it, game over. She is a bigot, and she
Speaker 2: is terrible, and she's mega and all the rest of
Speaker 2: the nonsense. The hate machine went full throttle. By the way,
Speaker 2: not only did I believe the Guardian referred to her
Speaker 2: as anti trans, they referred to as anti black. The
Speaker 2: media that covers the NBA is amongst the most bigoted
Speaker 2: and the most terrible out there. They really are awful,
Speaker 2: positively awful. But what is worse possibly are the coaches,
Speaker 2: the coaches who have put themselves in a position of
Speaker 2: being in favor of men in their sport. Now, a
Speaker 2: lot of people have been discussing what happens when the
Speaker 2: WNBA allows this, When the WNBA allows men in because
Speaker 2: they identify as this, that or the other, that's going
Speaker 2: to be the end. That's going to be the end
Speaker 2: of the WNBA. By the way, did I call it
Speaker 2: a penalty and not a foul? My mistake. I apologize
Speaker 2: for that. I was looking that the US men's soccer
Speaker 2: team did just sign Pochettino to a long term contract
Speaker 2: through twenty thirty, and maybe that's why I was doing it.
Speaker 2: It just came up foul, not penalty. My apologies. Now,
Speaker 2: coach after coach after coach got asked what they think
Speaker 2: about Sophie Cunningham standing up for girls in girls sports,
Speaker 2: which is a normal position. She didn't say a single
Speaker 2: thing that's political. The people who say she says something
Speaker 2: political are the people who are broken. They are tools,
Speaker 2: and they are in danger to themselves and others. Why
Speaker 2: do I say such a thing, Because if you can
Speaker 2: believe that girls sports are not for girls, you'll believe anything.
Speaker 2: If girls sports are not for girls, there are no
Speaker 2: girl sports.
Speaker 1: The end.
Speaker 2: It is such a factual statement, such a clear statement,
Speaker 2: such an understandable statement. It can't be denied. Only the
Speaker 2: irrational can deny it. And those people are irrational, and
Speaker 2: they should be mocked. People who are going through this
Speaker 2: mental illness I think should be shown respect and love.
Speaker 2: People who want to push mental illness on others or
Speaker 2: get you to buy into that somebody else is meant
Speaker 2: to owness means you have to change the way you live. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those people, those people, they need to be pushed aside,
Speaker 2: mocked them, ridiculed, is fine. So we get back to
Speaker 2: the coaches, because one by one they're asked what do
Speaker 2: you think about what Sophie Cunningham said? They can't figure
Speaker 2: out how to be rational. I have got the coach
Speaker 2: of the Minnesota links quite literally wearing ah, she's got
Speaker 2: a shirt on and What does the shirt say. The
Speaker 2: shirt says trans kids belong, What does that even mean?
Speaker 2: What possibly could that mean? Trans kids belong belong? What
Speaker 2: girls belong? In girl sports? Boys who say their girls
Speaker 2: do not your shirt trans kids belong is nothing more
Speaker 2: than some kind of irrational sloganeering. It's virtue signaling. Look
Speaker 2: at me, I'm nice, Look at me I care. You
Speaker 2: don't care. You sure as hell don't care about kids.
Speaker 2: You don't care about girls. And that's the story time
Speaker 2: and again in the WNBA, and what has come out
Speaker 2: of this. It isn't about Caitlyn Clark. I'm sorry. It
Speaker 2: isn't about Sophie Cunningham or Caitlyn Clark. It's about the
Speaker 2: media that covers the WNBA and the coaches within the
Speaker 2: WNBA who don't care about women. They are bigots and
Speaker 2: they are proud of it, and they are desperate to
Speaker 2: see women be demoralized and moved out. This is the
Speaker 2: coach of the Golden State Valkyries. Her name is Natalie Nicossi,
Speaker 2: and she is asked a basic question.
Speaker 8: Very again in the regular season, but coming out of
Speaker 8: the break, one of the big news stories has been
Speaker 8: Sophie Cunningham and the protests for her and protests against her,
Speaker 8: and you know, they had a national televised game today
Speaker 8: and Cheryl, you know, Worris shirt and it's just a
Speaker 8: I'm wondering, just what do you think about it? Do
Speaker 8: you do you think that's good for the league? Does
Speaker 8: it does it detract from the basketball?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it just noise?
Speaker 8: I'm just wondering what your opinion is.
Speaker 4: I think thank you for that question. I think just
Speaker 4: in terms of how I'm seeing it is if I
Speaker 4: could answer, It's like for me, sports, sports is about belonging.
Speaker 4: It's about inclusivity. It's about allowing everyone to be their
Speaker 4: authentic self. You know, I'm big on that, just because
Speaker 4: I have been criticized for my height, for my ethnicity.
Speaker 4: I've been in those you shouldn't belong here many times,
Speaker 4: and for me, I don't want that space, especially Golden State,
Speaker 4: to ever feel like that.
Speaker 2: And that is a broken league and a broken coach.
Speaker 2: I would tell her directly what an absolutely surreal argument
Speaker 2: sports is about belonging. I didn't say that somebody who
Speaker 2: thought they were a woman couldn't play basketball. Go play basketball,
Speaker 2: you just can't play organize against other women if you
Speaker 2: want to play in a league that does that, go
Speaker 2: do that. But if you want to tell women they
Speaker 2: have to take a back seat to men, first of all,
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of feminism that is. Secondly,
Speaker 2: my gosh, that's bigoted. That's ugly. But since your ideology
Speaker 2: comes before your humanity, you lost all sense of rationality.
Speaker 2: You can't even stand up for you. Look at me.
Speaker 2: They came after me because of my ethnicity. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what that's supposed to me. And I wasn't
Speaker 2: tall enough, this and that. And now you're saying that
Speaker 2: other girls should have to sit down because well they're girls.
Speaker 2: You're saying to me, Tony, this conversation isn't making sense.
Speaker 2: And I'll say to you, trying to make sense of
Speaker 2: the left's argument is madness. Let me give you the
Speaker 2: baseline of all of their arguments. They were told that
Speaker 2: if they don't accept the fact that men can be women,
Speaker 2: they will be excommunicated. And they simply can't get excommunicated,
Speaker 2: so they have no way of explaining how it is
Speaker 2: they really feel. They just simply do what they are
Speaker 2: told so they get to stay in the fold. The
Speaker 2: WNBA is telling you on every level. We are a
Speaker 2: league for black women and gay women, and that's it,
Speaker 2: and that if anything should come around questioning that, we
Speaker 2: will go to further and further extremes to prove it,
Speaker 2: and we will give every nonsense answer, literally no sense,
Speaker 2: to try and get out of the conversation. Sports is
Speaker 2: about belonging. Well, sometimes the guy who isn't good enough
Speaker 2: doesn't make the team. He wants to belong but he
Speaker 2: doesn't make the team. I thought it was about winning,
Speaker 2: so I thought a lot of it was about Sophie
Speaker 2: Cunningham said absolutely nothing wrong. But the WNBA's response is
Speaker 2: outrageously wrong. But maybe this is what we need. Maybe
Speaker 2: this is what we need. Maybe what we need is
Speaker 2: for them to be able to out themselves completely so
Speaker 2: we know what it is we're dealing with. Now what
Speaker 2: does it mean for the WNBA. I don't know, because
Speaker 2: it doesn't look to me like the NBA's are going
Speaker 2: to change the league. It doesn't look like they're going
Speaker 2: to do anything except continue this welfare project. Our job,
Speaker 2: I think, is to ask ourselves what this is talking
Speaker 2: to or doing to us via culture, and how do
Speaker 2: we make changes from there? Because right now they're a
Speaker 2: little girl saying thank you, Sophie Cunningham for standing up
Speaker 2: for us. And then they are the coaches saying, how
Speaker 2: dare you stand up for girls? I have a couple
Speaker 2: of theories of where this can go. I'll get into
Speaker 2: those in the days ahead. Keep it here. I'm Tony
Speaker 2: Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So as I
Speaker 2: discussed earlier, maybe you missed it, I believe that Todd
Speaker 2: blanche will be confirmed as Attorney General. Tony Katz, Tony
Speaker 2: Katz today an absolute pleasure. The word on the street
Speaker 2: was that they were trying to hold up his nomination.
Speaker 2: Todd Blanche in from Attorney General acting Attorney General in
Speaker 2: thestead of Pam BONDI, who President Trump dismissed, if you will,
Speaker 2: And it was being held up by Tom Tillis in
Speaker 2: North Carolina, John Corner of Texas, both Republicans. Why the
Speaker 2: weaponization fund? This one point seven seven six billion dollars
Speaker 2: that could be doled out to people who who were
Speaker 2: well abused by our government on January sixth, Some people
Speaker 2: are right fully in jail, some people engaged in act
Speaker 2: of violence, many people were invited in did nothing wrong,
Speaker 2: got prosecuted, had to squeeze, but on spend time in jail.
Speaker 2: They did nothing wrong. Nothing be better if we were
Speaker 2: all honest about that. They can sue their government. As
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, this fund was supposedly a place
Speaker 2: where they can get dollars for, you know, in lawsuits
Speaker 2: and for the abuse that they suffered. The feeling was
Speaker 2: that could be misused. And I agree with that feeling.
Speaker 2: And so Republicans have said, We're not going to be
Speaker 2: a part of this. I'm not going to move forward
Speaker 2: on this. As a matter of fact, we won't go
Speaker 2: forward with anything moving your nominees out of committee if
Speaker 2: this is still there. It was on the table and
Speaker 2: Trump was threatening it again, do this or I'll do that,
Speaker 2: and the Republicans, specifically Cornyn and Tillis, no fans of Trump,
Speaker 2: said well no, no, no, no. So Todd Blanche yesterday
Speaker 2: said that the weaponization Fund is done, it doesn't exist anymore, gone,
Speaker 2: completely gone. And now we're hearing that both Tillis and
Speaker 2: Cornyn will release their hold and he will get through committee.
Speaker 2: And there is really no reason, none, that Todd Blanche
Speaker 2: is not confirmed to be the next Attorney general. Said
Speaker 2: more clearly, if Merrick Garland can get confirmed, if Loretta
Speaker 2: Lynch can get confirmed, can get confirmed. There's no argument.
Speaker 2: Just that easy. I've got three more things coming up.
Speaker 2: Keep it here.
Speaker 6: This is Tony Kats Today. Three more things Tony Katz,
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Speaker 2: Guys, thanks for being here. I appreciate it. Find everything
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Speaker 2: in there be a part of what we're doing. Three
Speaker 2: more things. These are stories that should be front page news,
Speaker 2: but because of all the things happening on the front pages,
Speaker 2: doesn't make the front page. I try to bring it
Speaker 2: to you. Of course, we've got the President saying that
Speaker 2: there will be no big attack on a RAN because
Speaker 2: the neighbors begged us not to. But we've got a deal.
Speaker 2: Look at the deal. We have got a deal, and
Speaker 2: that deal is going to open the street. If you
Speaker 2: say some if you tell me it's going to open
Speaker 2: the straight of hormones, I'll believe you, except I don't
Speaker 2: believe it because I don't know who you have a
Speaker 2: deal with West Texas Crude at this moment is eighty dollars.
Speaker 2: Brent Crude is eighty three. Who knows where it's going
Speaker 2: to close, but it was down in the seventh and
Speaker 2: the upper seventies, so it's crept up a little. Let's
Speaker 2: see it open straight and lots of oil flowing through.
Speaker 2: So that's the top line story. And then of course
Speaker 2: there's is Sophie Cunningham and Saturday and I My problem
Speaker 2: is is that when talking about that story, there's so
Speaker 2: much and so many pieces. I'm trying to bring it
Speaker 2: down to where I think is the base crux, and
Speaker 2: the only thing I can come to is for the WNBA,
Speaker 2: the product is inconsequential, the ideology is everything. There comes
Speaker 2: a moment where one has to ask, do they view
Speaker 2: this as a jobs program? What the hell are we
Speaker 2: looking at here? But we'll get to that in the
Speaker 2: days of head. Then, of course you've got the Morocco
Speaker 2: story where you all of a sudden had sixty thousand
Speaker 2: Moroccans coming into this Spanish city state. Seventy four people died,
Speaker 2: many of them drowned as they swam over. And then
Speaker 2: of course there was violence that was engaged people were attacked.
Speaker 2: How did this happen? Well, if I listened to Thomas Massey,
Speaker 2: which I do not, well, it's because the Republicans passed
Speaker 2: a bill that green lighted the transfer of Spanish territory
Speaker 2: to Morocco. That is, that's not what happened. That is
Speaker 2: a flat out lie from connorsman Thomas Massey. It's a
Speaker 2: committee report. The committee report discussed this idea. The House
Speaker 2: passed nothing. The committee report has no force of law.
Speaker 2: It doesn't show up anywhere in the legislation that was
Speaker 2: eventually passed by the House, and carvers with massive you
Speaker 2: vote to know because you won't note everything. It's what
Speaker 2: you do, it's who you are. Part of your problem.
Speaker 6: So this.
Speaker 2: Flot of people, which according to sources, the vast majority
Speaker 2: of been returned to Morocco, understand that this area that
Speaker 2: is controlled by Spain is actually on the African continent.
Speaker 2: It's on the other side of the med Spain is
Speaker 2: to the north, the Med being the Mediterranean. I just
Speaker 2: want it to sound very continental when I said it, right,
Speaker 2: If you're going to talk things like the med just
Speaker 2: picture whoever's talking wearing a speedo and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's very European continental of you. I'm on the med
Speaker 2: Me and Espuedo. I say, reserve some time this evening
Speaker 2: and enjoy yourself. So no, the United States did not
Speaker 2: trans greenlight the transfer a Spanish territory to Morocco. As
Speaker 2: Thomas Massey said, you did have this invasion. You did
Speaker 2: have people engaged in violence, and these people are looking
Speaker 2: for a better life. They look for a better life,
Speaker 2: and they get in to this Spanish enclave and they
Speaker 2: go about attacking people and stabbing people in the streets.
Speaker 2: Maybe not people you want in your country. Spain had
Speaker 2: to mobilize, it's military to make things, you know, calm.
Speaker 2: The second story came from the good people over there
Speaker 2: at Fox. They had on Deborah Burks. Remember her. She
Speaker 2: was there during the days of COVID, and she is
Speaker 2: telling us what we already knew, which is everything became
Speaker 2: political very very quickly.
Speaker 9: If you get on tests, instead of quarantining people who
Speaker 9: are exposed, you just only tell the people who are
Speaker 9: infected to stay home. That is a very different approach.
Speaker 9: It worked fabulously in universities. It's why we were able
Speaker 9: to keep them open. And Secretary of DeVos was working
Speaker 9: on keeping K through twelve open. There were solutions, but
Speaker 9: it became very political, and we all have to be
Speaker 9: aware because it was a presidential election year, it was
Speaker 9: really important for bluestates to show that they were taking
Speaker 9: it very seriously.
Speaker 2: And they overclosed. We know, we know. Why didn't anybody
Speaker 2: say it that, I mean, we did, but why weren't
Speaker 2: you saying it then? Why weren't you getting up there
Speaker 2: and saying, sorry, doctor Fauci, we overclosed. But understand that
Speaker 2: if given the opportunity, they will do it again. They
Speaker 2: will absolutely overclose again. What makes me say such a thing?
Speaker 2: I am so glad you asked. This is Mehdi Hassan,
Speaker 2: the ridiculous, ridiculous progressive. Mehdi Hassan was responding to a
Speaker 2: back and forth that took place on CNN. It was
Speaker 2: a back and forth between Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The
Speaker 2: Secretary of Health and Human Services, and Dana Bash, host
Speaker 2: on CNN. And this was about vaccines. This was kind
Speaker 2: of fascinating in its presentation and everything should get fact checked.
Speaker 2: But check this out genetic situation. Let me say this first.
Speaker 10: We're doing all those things and as one of the
Speaker 10: ways that we found silent all there's seventy three studies
Speaker 10: out there and like tylo explosure during later pregnancy and
Speaker 10: during the parentatal period.
Speaker 2: Who who? Just mindset?
Speaker 10: But you are wrong when you say that this issue
Speaker 10: has been studied. It has been studying, and you're rolling
Speaker 10: your eyes.
Speaker 2: I I don't want I don't want to have you
Speaker 2: use our air to say this.
Speaker 11: There have been more than forty studies involving five point
Speaker 11: six million people to conclude there is no link between
Speaker 11: vaccines and autism. This is the head of the Committee
Speaker 11: of Infectious Diseases for the American Academy of pell Let.
Speaker 12: Me tell you what's the Institute of Medicine now before
Speaker 12: we go on, I believe in the open dialogue, the idea.
Speaker 2: That Dana Bash is a Dana Bash over there at
Speaker 2: CNN can say, I don't want you to use our
Speaker 2: airwaves for this. This is the Secretary of Health and
Speaker 2: Human Services to debate him on the subject your airwaves.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty remarkable thing. Now, if you came on
Speaker 2: to discuss this and he wants to discuss something else,
Speaker 2: you could say, I'm sorry, we're going to focus on
Speaker 2: this subject. Right here. We're having a debate on the subject.
Speaker 2: You bring up data I don't like, so therefore you're
Speaker 2: not allowed to say it is nuts. But she brings
Speaker 2: up this piece. Here's what everybody has said about vaccines
Speaker 2: and autism, and here comes Secretary Kennedy.
Speaker 10: It says, which is the National Academy of Sciences, which
Speaker 10: is the ultimate arbiter on vaccine safety, which it does
Speaker 10: not have an interest in this debate. It says, none
Speaker 10: of the aid vaccine letter administered during the first six
Speaker 10: months of life, I have ever studies for a relationship
Speaker 10: to autism.
Speaker 2: We have found two.
Speaker 10: Studies on the D vaccine I've showed that it does
Speaker 10: cause autism, and one on the appatitis the vaccine and
Speaker 10: again suggests that it does cause autism. The Institute of
Speaker 10: Medicine dismissed those two studies because they were based on
Speaker 10: CDC's database. The studies that you're referring to are all
Speaker 10: from one vaccine in MMR vaccine, or one ingredients I'm arazillus.
Speaker 2: Well, now let's talk about that. Are you telling me
Speaker 2: that forty studies are based on one ingredient in an
Speaker 2: MMR vaccine, Mom's misuzubella. That's what all the studies are.
Speaker 2: Now someone can say me, no, Tony, he's got it
Speaker 2: wrong here, here, and here. But that only happens if
Speaker 2: you have the debate open for all of us to hear.
Speaker 2: It's the only way this works. And for the media
Speaker 2: who cannot understand this, cannot comprehend this. The institutions lied
Speaker 2: to us because the institution said six feet apart, The
Speaker 2: institution said you couldn't see grandma when she was dying.
Speaker 2: The institution said if you didn't get vaccinated, you were
Speaker 2: going to kill grandma. And no part of that was true.
Speaker 2: So Politico reports on this. RFK Junior tells CNN host
Speaker 2: that constitutional rights take priority over public health. Correct, accurate,
Speaker 2: because we saw, as we heard from doctor Burkes, they
Speaker 2: allowed public health to have priority over the Constitution. Why
Speaker 2: in the world would my rights be taken away. My
Speaker 2: rights exist whether there's a pandemic or not. Anybody who
Speaker 2: thinks otherwise is out of their mind. I said this
Speaker 2: quite clearly. Then you cannot destroy society to to save society.
Speaker 2: The Constitution remains. When they were there and parking lots
Speaker 2: of churches, taking down license plate numbers, every cop who
Speaker 2: did that should be fired, lose their pension. I say,
Speaker 2: do seventeen years in jail, take down license plate numbers.
Speaker 2: If people go to church. Kiss off. Mehdi Hassan, the
Speaker 2: leftist comes out and says, based on this RFK Junior
Speaker 2: Hotel's CNN host, that constitutional rights take priority over public health.
Speaker 2: He writes, we're screwed in the next pandemic. Screwed that
Speaker 2: is the leftist Mehdi Hassan, the Islamist supporter, Mehdi Hassan
Speaker 2: my take, saying that the constitution should come second or third.
Speaker 2: Some doctor says you can't leave your house. You can't
Speaker 2: leave your house. Some doctor says your job is not essential,
Speaker 2: you don't get to work. He believes this, he wants this.
Speaker 2: The left has learned nothing from COVID. They are desperate
Speaker 2: for the control. They want it more than oxygen. They
Speaker 2: want it more than anything, more than anything. You can't
Speaker 2: let these people have power. This is all they want.
Speaker 2: How can they have dominion over you? It is everything
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Speaker 2: Keep it right here. This is Tony Kats today. If
Speaker 2: you didn't get enough of Secretary Kennedy explaining to data
Speaker 2: Bash or Dana Bash over that CNN how life is.
Speaker 2: This was the other part of the exchange, and it's
Speaker 2: just it's excellent. It is the Secretary saying that you
Speaker 2: don't get it aside what gets debated creating this.
Speaker 10: Of course you want know you know how to do
Speaker 10: is repeat things that people told you and to say
Speaker 10: trust the experts. That's what you during during COVID. Now
Speaker 10: we know that Anley Fauci, who was the expert, was
Speaker 10: lying about everything about mass about the social distancing, about
Speaker 10: natural immunity, about the transmission from the vaccine, about the
Speaker 10: source of COVID. He was lying, and you were punishing
Speaker 10: people for not trusting the experts, and now you're rolling
Speaker 10: out the experts ages to talk about something that you
Speaker 10: have no personal knowledge of.
Speaker 2: Okay, well guess what that is my job. If your
Speaker 2: job is to push back, I would agree. If you
Speaker 2: don't have the data, that's a problem. If you are
Speaker 2: going to just believe the so called experts after they
Speaker 2: already lied to you, that's the story these people are.
Speaker 2: They're impossible, absolutely impossible. Does she not understand that she's
Speaker 2: not trusted? Does she not understand that all of CNN
Speaker 2: is untrustworthy? I had a while where I didn't do
Speaker 2: anything CNN related, and then I had a while where
Speaker 2: I did, and then I didn't. And I'm trying to
Speaker 2: see is there anything good coming from there? The answer
Speaker 2: is no, it's not a news network.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 2: Do I think that people like Sexuary Kennedy should follow
Speaker 2: some of my words and why would you go on
Speaker 2: there and give them any ratings? Yes, but I also
Speaker 2: think that stuff like this is equally It's important our
Speaker 2: economy and why are we bailing out Japan? We're not
Speaker 2: actually bailing at Japan. Well, we did something I've got
Speaker 2: doctor Matt Will to explain it. Coming up. Keep it here.
Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today. Why from Vaal Hartland and
Speaker 1: the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: What in the world is going on with the end?
Speaker 2: What is going on with the Japanese economy? I mean,
Speaker 2: I thought they were out of the stagflation? Why are
Speaker 2: we propping it up? I'm not saying I'm opposed. I
Speaker 2: just want to understand. Why is this Argentina all over again?
Speaker 2: We're buying pesos. I mean, we got the money back,
Speaker 2: so I guess all was good. But is this what
Speaker 2: we do now? Or is this about something having to
Speaker 2: do with China? Is this about the politics more than
Speaker 2: it is about the money? But it is costing us money?
Speaker 5: Or is it not?
Speaker 2: You see, that's just it. Everybody wants to say something,
Speaker 2: but no one actually digs into what is actually going on.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.
Speaker 2: Just call me the digger, because that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Doctor Matt Will joins me. Right now, economist at the
Speaker 2: University of Indianapolis. We're gonna get to Japan. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about what's going on with the yen here. But
Speaker 2: I want to start where I start, which is our economy.
Speaker 2: And on Friday, I was out on Friday, but happy
Speaker 2: to be back today. And we take a look at
Speaker 2: GDP's second quarter GDP, and it grew at a rate
Speaker 2: of one point five percent, not two point one percent
Speaker 2: that was the first quarter one point five percent. In
Speaker 2: all of these cases, a number means nothing unless we
Speaker 2: can annaly why the number is what it is. So
Speaker 2: you take a look at one point five percent. Economist
Speaker 2: to Matt Will, what's the story. It's false. I will
Speaker 2: tell you that the number is much higher than one
Speaker 2: point five percent. And this goes back to the Keynesian
Speaker 2: flaw and how they calculate GDP. So yeah, let's look
Speaker 2: at the headline one point five. By the way, the
Speaker 2: market wasn't phase because the market knows what I know.
Speaker 2: First of all.
Speaker 14: One of the reasons it was only one point five
Speaker 14: is because the government portion of the GDP was reduced.
Speaker 14: That's a good thing. You and I, everyone listening to
Speaker 14: the show knows that the smaller government is better. So
Speaker 14: that pulled down GDP. Also, imports pulled it down one
Speaker 14: and a half percent, again, a huge flaw with the
Speaker 14: GDP formula is that it punishes the country for imports,
Speaker 14: but it ignores foreign direct investment. Because those dollars that
Speaker 14: we spend to buy stuff from overseas flows back into
Speaker 14: the United States. Exports boosted it.
Speaker 2: I have, that's good.
Speaker 14: Consumption up half two points two percent. Investments were up.
Speaker 14: In fact, fixed investments you know, equipment and buildings and
Speaker 14: stuff up one and a half percent. I'm telling you
Speaker 14: this is this is good underneath the hood. Accept accept
Speaker 14: the eyeword. Inflation is still over five percent in the life.
Speaker 14: Let's hold off a little bit and let's get back
Speaker 14: to this.
Speaker 2: The argument is that the GDP number of one point
Speaker 2: five percent is false because where to schedule a discussion
Speaker 2: of government is about government spend or government lack of spend.
Speaker 14: Government growth. The growth of government reduces GDP, I mean
Speaker 14: increases GDP. So when the government is constrained, that causes
Speaker 14: a GDP to go down. And that's what this report shows.
Speaker 14: It shows less. You know, we call real versus you know,
Speaker 14: nominal dollars. So inflation adjusted government spend and the economy,
Speaker 14: it decreased zero point one four percent.
Speaker 2: So when the government is spending when government is spending.
Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Mattwill, economist at the University of Indianapolis,
Speaker 2: when the government is spending, we consider that growth. In
Speaker 2: the United States, when you talk about GDP gross domestic product,
Speaker 2: government spending is seen as as growths. So when the
Speaker 2: government is going on wild spending spreeze, those people who
Speaker 2: engage the spending can look at the GDP it say see,
Speaker 2: look how much we're growing.
Speaker 14: And that's what happened under Biden. That was his primary source.
Speaker 14: When we looked at the microscopic parts of GDP under Biden,
Speaker 14: we saw that almost all the growth in the economy
Speaker 14: was coming from government. Growth under Trump, it's a completely
Speaker 14: different picture. Almost all of the growth is coming from
Speaker 14: private industry. In fact, GDP is subtracting, I mean government
Speaker 14: is subtracting from GDP.
Speaker 2: So the formula which John Maynard Kines wrote back in the.
Speaker 14: Forties, and by the way, at the end of his
Speaker 14: life he actually said, you know what, it's really flawed,
Speaker 14: but it's the best we've got.
Speaker 2: And I would agree with him. It's very flawed, but.
Speaker 14: It's the only thing we have at the moment. It
Speaker 14: ignores a lot of things like import exports, foreign direct investment,
Speaker 14: So you have to look under the hood. Not all
Speaker 14: one point five percents are created equal.
Speaker 2: Now let's get to the next which you talked about
Speaker 2: investments up point five three percent, about half a percent
Speaker 2: investments into you're talking about long lasting goods, manufacturing goods.
Speaker 2: This is investments into my four oh one k. What
Speaker 2: are these investments made up of. Yeah, that's an important
Speaker 2: point that you're making. This is company investment, private corporate
Speaker 2: investments in production, manufacturing, including services, so anything that a
Speaker 2: company is investing to expand their business. So that's we're
Speaker 2: not talking you and I saving for retirement. This is
Speaker 2: actual investments made by companies to grow their businesses. And
Speaker 2: underneath that this.
Speaker 14: Half a percent growth, one and a half percent of
Speaker 14: the GDP was due to fixed investments. That's putting up
Speaker 14: a facility to build some product. That is a long
Speaker 14: term benefit. That is huge. And we didn't see that
Speaker 14: under Biden. We've seen that under Trump because he's instituted
Speaker 14: policies and deregulation that has encouraged this. And you know,
Speaker 14: we talk about are those other countries around the world
Speaker 14: investing that's not even in this number. That's foreign direct
Speaker 14: investment which should be included, which isn't in the GDP calculation.
Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economists at the University of Indianapolis,
Speaker 2: let's keep breaking this down understanding our numbers, and one
Speaker 2: of these is manufacturing. When it comes to the ISM report,
Speaker 2: which is something you look to keep in high regard,
Speaker 2: this tells us something. This matters. ISM was fifty three
Speaker 2: point three that's of about six percent, which is the
Speaker 2: six straight increase that we have had. That signals what wow.
Speaker 14: It signals wow because that's the private economy. So go
Speaker 14: back to the GDP that was plus one and a
Speaker 14: half percent on fixed investments by companies. We have proof
Speaker 14: it's not just bogus estimate by the government ISM Private
Speaker 14: Industry Report. Actual companies calling in saying, hey, this is
Speaker 14: what we're doing. So this is the six month in
Speaker 14: a row. Inventories are up, production is up. There's these
Speaker 14: are sub parts of the ISM report. New orders are up.
Speaker 14: This is fantastic. It's what Trump wanted to do with
Speaker 14: the terroriffs, but the tariffs actually delayed it. I believe
Speaker 14: these things would have been up inventories, production, new orders
Speaker 14: without the tariffs sooner. But the tariffs have been in
Speaker 14: place for a long time. Now they're they're they're baked
Speaker 14: into the economy, not in a good way in some places,
Speaker 14: like inflation. The only thing in the ISM report that
Speaker 14: was concerning is employment is flat. But actually, if you
Speaker 14: can consider all the disruption with AI, flat employment right now,
Speaker 14: that's good because it should be dropping with all the disruption.
Speaker 14: So the growth is overcompensating for the AI disruption. There's
Speaker 14: a lot of good things that's report, except double digit
Speaker 14: inflation for manufacturers. That's right, double digit commodity prices, aluminum, copper,
Speaker 14: It's not good.
Speaker 2: This now leads into what you said where the problem is,
Speaker 2: Where the issue is with inflation. We have seen Kevin
Speaker 2: Walsh now Chairman of the Federal Reserve twice say we're
Speaker 2: not changing interest rates. They are not going down. This
Speaker 2: can't please President Trump at all, But we have been
Speaker 2: I have been very very consistent. I think you have
Speaker 2: been with me on this. I would never say otherwise.
Speaker 2: The inflation is here. You've argued that it's baked into everything.
Speaker 2: Wall Street is doing. What somehow is still unfathomable to
Speaker 2: people is that we accept that this is the way
Speaker 2: it is. We aren't. There is no aggressive push to
Speaker 2: bring it down because we discuss policy. So where is
Speaker 2: inflation right now and what are the competing forces? Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, I don't agree that we've accepted it.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't do not accept inflation. And if
Speaker 2: Wall Street is accepting it, shame on them. But they are.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm arguing that they are right. That's the point.
Speaker 2: I didn't say you and I sitting on a barstool
Speaker 2: are happy with this. This whole thing sucks to quote
Speaker 2: Rodney Dangerfield from Caddy Shack. But I do say that
Speaker 2: Wall Street has absolutely accepted this. They've baked it into
Speaker 2: the cake. We've discussed this many times. It is not
Speaker 2: where Midwest main Street is, but it's absolutely in my
Speaker 2: view outsider looking in where Wall Street is.
Speaker 14: Well, let me tell you, I'm gonna I'm gonna pivot
Speaker 14: a little bit and say, Kevin Walsh is he is
Speaker 14: doing the right thing. He's announced he's not going to
Speaker 14: change rates. I'm okay with that. I think the Fed
Speaker 14: funds rate is where it should be. I think this
Speaker 14: is a stable rate. And notice Trump didn't scream at
Speaker 14: him about this because Wall Street's pushing him. To increase.
Speaker 14: He even had some of his governors. Three of his
Speaker 14: fellow governors voted to increase rates last week, but he refused.
Speaker 14: He's playing the long game. What he's doing, and people
Speaker 14: pay attention to this. He is reducing the amount of
Speaker 14: information flow out of the Fed. He set up a
Speaker 14: special commission to look at the selling of assets off
Speaker 14: the FED balance sheet. I am convinced that he's going
Speaker 14: to slowly, behind the scenes, move this giant ship, and
Speaker 14: he's going to convince his fellow governors once this special
Speaker 14: commission does their work to start shedding assets from the
Speaker 14: balance sheet, sell those assets, pull the cash out of
Speaker 14: the economy without increasing inflation. He knows how to cut
Speaker 14: inflation and he's going to do it the right way.
Speaker 14: I'm confident based on what he's doing right now his
Speaker 14: strategy that he's going to pull it off patients, and
Speaker 14: I think even Trump has patients with him on this.
Speaker 2: But let you on this conversation of inflation in general.
Speaker 2: Never mind where we are about the market accepting this.
Speaker 2: The inflation is here. What are the competing forces that
Speaker 2: are causing it to remain.
Speaker 14: Well, it's still the tariffs, it's still growth of government deficits. Now,
Speaker 14: we talked about government spending earlier, but the deficits also
Speaker 14: contribute to this whole phenomenon because the FED is forced
Speaker 14: to monetize the deficits, so we have to cut the deficits.
Speaker 14: And that's where the FED is between a rock and
Speaker 14: a hard place, because they don't control the fiscal policy.
Speaker 14: They only control the monetary policy, so they can control
Speaker 14: the cash in the economy, but so can the federal
Speaker 14: government by deficit spending. And that deficit spending is really
Speaker 14: massive at the moment, and that's a huge issue. That's
Speaker 14: causing the sustained inflation despite the growth in the economy
Speaker 14: in the private sector.
Speaker 2: So that's the economy, that's the GDP. But we have
Speaker 2: to get into the conversation about Japan and the end
Speaker 2: because this has got some people and I don't even
Speaker 2: know if it's confused, it's got them bothered like somehow
Speaker 2: we're doing something very very wrong. But I think most
Speaker 2: people don't understand what we're doing. We will break that
Speaker 2: down with doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: Keep it right here, guys, I'm Tony Katz, and this
Speaker 2: is Tony Katz. Today.
Speaker 15: The Democratic National Committee, it's been well publicized, has been
Speaker 15: struggling with debt. Republicans are sitting on at least one hundred.
Speaker 2: And thirty million dollar war chess.
Speaker 15: What does the success of l Sied tell you about
Speaker 15: what the definition of power is right now? Because in
Speaker 15: our universe we often think power is money. That's the
Speaker 15: opposite of what he's running on.
Speaker 13: Well, what I have read is that some of the
Speaker 13: big donors are holding back because they're not quite sure
Speaker 13: what they're funding right now. And I think that we're
Speaker 13: in the middle of an interesting debate right now about
Speaker 13: I mean, where is the center of the Democratic Party
Speaker 13: And this election will help it, but it doesn't have
Speaker 13: a center the way the Republican Party has a center,
Speaker 13: which is Donald Trump. And so what's happened is it's
Speaker 13: allowed I think the media, among other things, and I
Speaker 13: mean Fox HUWS, but I also mean MS now to
Speaker 13: focus on the extremes right without. I don't think there's
Speaker 13: that many DSA candidates out there, but you look at
Speaker 13: the media and that's all there are is DSA candidates
Speaker 13: out there, and the result of that is you put
Speaker 13: forward a Democratic Party that looks like it's extreme which
Speaker 13: it has its extremes, but no focus at all, by
Speaker 13: the way, on the Republican.
Speaker 2: Extremes, because the Republicans aren't engaged in these extremes. I mean,
Speaker 2: one could argue that the point being made there in
Speaker 2: MS now is a legitimate point. Maybe there aren't as
Speaker 2: many communist candidates, democratic socialists or communists end of discussion.
Speaker 2: As you know, we talk about that, but there's only, like,
Speaker 2: you know, five or six as opposed to five hundred.
Speaker 2: But you're talking about people who could be the next
Speaker 2: senator from Michigan. You had a guy who had a
Speaker 2: Nazi tattoo and multiple allegations which are deemed credible by
Speaker 2: the vast majority. Hasn't been front of a court of
Speaker 2: law yet, so I can't say that of sexual impropriety.
Speaker 2: And you replace him with a guy who married I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: didn't marry, but had kids with his second cousin. That's
Speaker 2: Troy Jackson. You have got a lot of radicalness out there.
Speaker 2: You've got a mayor in New York, a mayor in Seattle.
Speaker 2: These are not small cities engaging these full on communist agendas.
Speaker 2: Of course, you have a reason to be concerned. Tony
Speaker 2: Katz Tony Katz today. Good to be with you. So
Speaker 2: the counter to that argument is, we're obsessing about these things,
Speaker 2: but I only named a handful. Those handful affect a
Speaker 2: lot of lives. Those handful tell a story about growth,
Speaker 2: and those andful is the is the recognition that the
Speaker 2: political left is broken and has been common deared by
Speaker 2: these communists. This is who they are. They are communists,
Speaker 2: and they are Islamist adjacent. They're certainly Islamis supportive because
Speaker 2: they say nothing. They say nothing of what we see
Speaker 2: all around the country of this growing threat. They look
Speaker 2: at the communism and say, this is what the young
Speaker 2: people want. They don't one hundred million people dead at
Speaker 2: the hands of communists. Well, that's not really the case.
Speaker 2: That's not true, that's not what happened. They will lie
Speaker 2: about anything and everything, everywhere and all the time.
Speaker 15: But we know that.
Speaker 2: We're aware of that because we discuss these things. But
Speaker 2: the real story here is if you allow this to metastasize,
Speaker 2: if you allow this radicalness of an ideology to grow
Speaker 2: and to fester, you will have an unrecognized country and
Speaker 2: then you will have no country whatsoever. So while he
Speaker 2: is correct, it may only be my word handful of
Speaker 2: these communists running for office. It is that they feel
Speaker 2: emboldened to run. They feel that this is their time.
Speaker 2: I have no idea if Hassan Piker is a legit
Speaker 2: guy or doing this for the clicks, I have no clue.
Speaker 2: All I know is his ideology has to lose and
Speaker 2: screw him and Iona Presley and Rashida Talib and Elano
Speaker 2: More and then the Kazu Cortes. They don't care that
Speaker 2: these people are communists. They say welcome, because in the
Speaker 2: end the goal is the same, the dismantling of Western
Speaker 2: civilization and the ending of the United States, the ripping
Speaker 2: asunder of the Constitution. When it's just one person, you notice.
Speaker 2: And that's where this falls apart if Steve Liisman over there,
Speaker 2: he's a a CNBC guy, but he was doing an
Speaker 2: interview on MS now saying there's no focus at all
Speaker 2: in the Republican extremes because everyone is obsessed with the DSA.
Speaker 2: I put forth to you that Republicans extremes. To the
Speaker 2: extent that there are extremes, they get rooted out by Republicans.
Speaker 2: Democrats welcome it, embrace it, laud it, glorify it, and
Speaker 2: then say, how dare you ask questions about it? We
Speaker 2: have to beat those Republicans. Graham Platter is a Nazi,
Speaker 2: credibly accused in my view, of multiple accounts of sexual impropriety,
Speaker 2: innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, fetishizes
Speaker 2: about pleasuring himself in a porta potty and laughs when
Speaker 2: American soldiers are killed and Democrats said, hey, we have
Speaker 2: to win the Senate. There's the difference. Republicans would have
Speaker 2: felt the pressure immediately and he'd begne. He'd begne. We
Speaker 2: got rid of the senator from Idaho for having a
Speaker 2: wide stance. Do you remember this guy? He's he's in
Speaker 2: the bathroom's Larry Craig is his name. Arrested for lude
Speaker 2: conduct in a men's bathroom at the Minneapolis Saint Paul
Speaker 2: International Airport. He entered a guilty plea for disorderly conduct
Speaker 2: a wide stance because he put it away. The foot
Speaker 2: was underneath the stall door. He was tapping his foot.
Speaker 2: It was a signal that somebody wanted to engage in
Speaker 2: lude conduct. I don't know, and these are not This
Speaker 2: is not my world, Thank you very much. Gone. The
Speaker 2: Left is openly endorsing communists, and we got rid of
Speaker 2: Larry Craig because he liked to tap dance while he was.
Speaker 5: Going number two. I'm sorry they not like us. These
Speaker 5: things are not comparable. I don't know why the hell
Speaker 5: were pretending that they are just madness, so you can
Speaker 5: argue that it's an obsession. Rational people would argue that
Speaker 5: they're communists. Know, by the way, ripping the Democrat Party apart.
Speaker 2: Now, when I say ripping it apart, they are ripping
Speaker 2: apart those people who won't accept the communists. Communists are
Speaker 2: going to win this thing. The Communists are gonna win
Speaker 2: this thing. I don't think the Democrats have what it
Speaker 2: takes to keep them out. I don't think they want
Speaker 2: to keep them out. Powers powers, powers, power, and they
Speaker 2: don't care how they get it. They will morph, they
Speaker 2: will maneuver, they will be these people. Wait until Representative
Speaker 2: of Costi Cortes learns she's not enough to the left,
Speaker 2: because that crop is coming up soon. If you want
Speaker 2: the revolution to remain, there always has to be somebody
Speaker 2: who's more revolution minded than you. And for all these
Speaker 2: squad members that is coming really quick and coming directly
Speaker 2: at them. Find everything I do at Tony kats dot com.
Speaker 2: I've got more with doctor Matt Will coming up. Keep
Speaker 2: it here. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today.
Speaker 2: So this whole yen thing with President Trump has got
Speaker 2: a bunch of people in an uproar, except I don't
Speaker 2: know if there's anything to uproar here. When you hear
Speaker 2: about this deal, we're propping up the end or are
Speaker 2: we buying the yen? Is this like that Argentina deal
Speaker 2: where we bought pesos and they got dollars and then
Speaker 2: they they did pay us back? So what is the
Speaker 2: story here? I mean, what maybe we should be asking
Speaker 2: what's up with the Japanese economy? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,
Speaker 2: Great to be with you talking to doctor Matt Will,
Speaker 2: economist at the University of Indianapolis. The story out of Japan,
Speaker 2: which the market doesn't seem to care too much about. Again,
Speaker 2: the market fascinating. It was just so high that there's
Speaker 2: an alleged deal with Iran, and the opening of the
Speaker 2: Straight of Horn moves boom, Like the Dow opened and
Speaker 2: it went over seven hundred in the first hour. I
Speaker 2: don't know where it's going to close. No one does.
Speaker 2: But everyone was very, very excited. But this yen story
Speaker 2: and what's going on with the Japanese economy, Now, this
Speaker 2: is the kind of stuff that always puts me a
Speaker 2: bit on edge. At first, I thought this was a
Speaker 2: story much like Argentina and US buying pesos. And then
Speaker 2: I said, well, this is Japan. This is a country
Speaker 2: that's coming out of thirty plus years of stagflation. I
Speaker 2: thought they had already come out of it. This does
Speaker 2: not signal that. And then there's a question whether or
Speaker 2: not this is an economic move or a political move.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about what's happening in the Japanese economy,
Speaker 2: what did they signal to the world, and why did
Speaker 2: the US come to the rescue.
Speaker 14: Wow, Okay, there's a lot to unpack here, and I'm
Speaker 14: gonna put on my professor cap and try to explain
Speaker 14: it clearly. But you added one thing that I had
Speaker 14: not thought about, because I'm an economics nerd, the political angle.
Speaker 14: You are one hundred per correct. I had not thought
Speaker 14: about why the US is doing this. It's political. So
Speaker 14: what's going on here? The US bought yen a significant amount.
Speaker 14: This takes them out of circulation. So go back to
Speaker 14: the same discussion we have about inflation and taking dollars
Speaker 14: out of the economy. The United States government bought yen
Speaker 14: and took them out of circulation in Japan. So that
Speaker 14: makes the yen stronger, that reduces their inflation, and that's
Speaker 14: a good thing for them. But it also makes the
Speaker 14: yen stronger against the butler, which weakens our currency, which
Speaker 14: is a side issue. But it's interesting why we are
Speaker 14: accepting that, and I got a theory as to why
Speaker 14: we're accepting that. But it's a little different than Argentina.
Speaker 14: And let me tell it's similar, but not exactly. Argentina
Speaker 14: needed US dollars. They needed US dollars to buy other things,
Speaker 14: so we gave them US dollars by buying pesos. Japan
Speaker 14: doesn't need dollars, they just need fewer yen. They've got
Speaker 14: plenty of US dollars. They needed fewer yen their economy,
Speaker 14: and they wanted us to take them out. And I
Speaker 14: got to give, you know, Scott Besson and the Treasury
Speaker 14: Department genius for how they did it. They did it
Speaker 14: in a way that we've never seen before. And Wall
Speaker 14: Street got very upset at this. They didn't buy yen
Speaker 14: with dollars. They bought yen with euros.
Speaker 2: They took the.
Speaker 14: Euros that we hold, and we do hold a lot
Speaker 14: of international currencies, and they bought the yen with that.
Speaker 14: That totally messed up Wall Street's arbitrage and the speculators
Speaker 14: and the traders because they didn't want to spend dollars.
Speaker 14: My theory is that they believe the dollars a good
Speaker 14: investment right now, because Trump's all about investing. He's all
Speaker 14: about I'm going to make money here and make money there.
Speaker 14: And Scott Besson did a very good pivot and disrupted
Speaker 14: the markets, and I think it's going to help Japan,
Speaker 14: but Japan has to get their own house in order.
Speaker 2: Also, Okay, everything you just said makes people want to
Speaker 2: have a drink. No part of that for the normal
Speaker 2: person makes any sense. So let's start going back. Why
Speaker 2: did Japan need us to buy yen and pull yen
Speaker 2: out of their economy.
Speaker 14: Japan is causing their own inflation and they're asking us
Speaker 14: for help to bail them out because they're not doing
Speaker 14: enough domestically. Their own prime minister, she's doing a great
Speaker 14: job in trying to be responsible. She's a good free
Speaker 14: market capitalist type person. Yes, it's a culture. They have
Speaker 14: tremendous they have price caps. They have price caps, they
Speaker 14: have government subsidies across the board for their citizens, and
Speaker 14: therefore she's having a tough time domestically controlling this monster,
Speaker 14: which is the Japanese government and what they give to
Speaker 14: their citizens. I know, this sounds weird. They also have
Speaker 14: another problem, this is going to sound very weird. They're
Speaker 14: people save too much and don't borrow enough. They have
Speaker 14: one of the highest savings rates in the world and
Speaker 14: they have one of the lowest borrowing rates in the world. Well,
Speaker 14: that doesn't encourage people to grow their businesses. And because
Speaker 14: of the price controls. Okay, I'm hoping I'm not losing
Speaker 14: people here. Their CPI is low, but their PPI is
Speaker 14: seven point one percent. Their producers are experienced inflation as
Speaker 14: bad as ours, and they can't pass it along because
Speaker 14: of government controls. So she's trying to rein in this
Speaker 14: government monster. This okay, ready godzilla in Japan.
Speaker 2: So you do that. That's not my role, okay.
Speaker 14: But she needed the US government help, and they reached
Speaker 14: out and asked us for help. It was a coordinated effort.
Speaker 14: I'm pretty impressed with how it's going in our cooperation
Speaker 14: on this.
Speaker 2: So they needed Yen out of the economy to thwart
Speaker 2: the inflation issue, which is because of their own government policies.
Speaker 2: But they're not about changing the government policies, not changing
Speaker 2: them fast enough. She is trying to change them. She's
Speaker 2: having great difficulty. And you can imagine Trump wants to
Speaker 2: keep her politically strong. So you added that genius touch there.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about.
Speaker 14: There is politics here, and he wants to prop her up.
Speaker 14: He doesn't want her to suffer. And by the way,
Speaker 14: she will be punished if she tries to take away
Speaker 14: some of those goodies.
Speaker 2: And understand that the politics here, you can argue, are
Speaker 2: within Japan and of itself, but these are politics that
Speaker 2: are about China and thwarting China and making a strong
Speaker 2: Pacific rim. And this is about shipping lanes and the
Speaker 2: Taiwan Straight and the Yellow Sea in the South China Sea,
Speaker 2: this is about navigable seas. This is about hegemonic power.
Speaker 2: There's a lot here. And Sonai Takaichi, the Prime minister
Speaker 2: that we're talking about, has been very very westward looking
Speaker 2: and forward looking with President Trump wanting that alliance because
Speaker 2: she knows if Taiwan goes, everything is up for grabs.
Speaker 2: She's nobody's fool talking to doctor Matt Will, economists at
Speaker 2: the University of Indianapolis. So let's now go back to
Speaker 2: what happened here. We end up buying yen to pull
Speaker 2: yen out of the system, and we pay them in
Speaker 2: euros that we're holding. What the hell do they do
Speaker 2: with the euro? What gets weird is I don't care
Speaker 2: if you give me a pound of gold, or you
Speaker 2: give me the equivalent in dollars, or you give me
Speaker 2: the equivalents in platinum. The money is still there, so
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily pulled out. All you did is go
Speaker 2: from a liquid to a solid to a gas man.
Speaker 2: You changed its form, but you didn't change the thing.
Speaker 14: Ah, but Japanese citizens don't pay for stuff in euros.
Speaker 14: They pay for stuff in yen. So to quote one
Speaker 14: of our favorite politicians, you put it in the lock
Speaker 14: box in the corner of Tokyo and nobody touches it.
Speaker 14: So the euros are in the lock box and no
Speaker 14: one's touching them, so it's not causing the inflation. I
Speaker 14: got to go back and just say, told don.
Speaker 2: Did you just quote Al Gore on this show, you
Speaker 2: got the reference. Yes, gosh, guys, I want to apologize
Speaker 2: to everybody. I I try to vet the people on
Speaker 2: this show to the best of my ability. Doctor Willis
Speaker 2: quoting Al Gore, My goodness, gracious sir, but continue please.
Speaker 14: Well, but your analysis I was doing the I can
Speaker 14: explain what I understand what occurred, the mechanics. I can
Speaker 14: even go into what we call a cash and carry
Speaker 14: trade in an arbitrage yen dollar rates.
Speaker 2: But you said the political. Now I understand why the
Speaker 2: why was missing.
Speaker 14: You know, all the financial press this morning are going
Speaker 14: over the top looking at this, crunching the numbers, saying
Speaker 14: this is this is interesting.
Speaker 2: But that's the why.
Speaker 14: The why is the politics because he needs Trump needs
Speaker 14: her in that place for the whole China's situation, and
Speaker 14: because it actually makes a dollar stronger or weaker. I mean,
Speaker 14: this is he's going against his own thing. By the way,
Speaker 14: you know how he could solve the problem with China
Speaker 14: much or would you pan much easier? Eliminate the tariffs.
Speaker 14: Eliminate the tariffs. It's causing their exports to cost more.
Speaker 14: If he would just eliminate the tariffs, that would have
Speaker 14: a huge benefit for Japan, So why don't we just
Speaker 14: eliminate the tariffs.
Speaker 2: He's not going to do this on any level. So
Speaker 2: here we are. We just bought this currency. So this
Speaker 2: is different. Talking to doctor Matt Will, economist at the
Speaker 2: University of Indianapolis. And by the way, I'm with you,
Speaker 2: I'm getting rid of all all the tariffs, and as
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a tariff guy. We buy this currency.
Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt us. I mean it does if you
Speaker 2: want to argue, weaken the dollar, which would be Trump
Speaker 2: going against his own desires. But he sees a bigger
Speaker 2: long term value. And now we hold on to this
Speaker 2: yen like we held on to the euro. It doesn't
Speaker 2: change anything. Is that how it's different than the Argentina deal.
Speaker 14: Yes, the Argentina deal was a swap. We knew that
Speaker 14: we were buying pesos and we knew that we were
Speaker 14: going to sell them back. That was a you know,
Speaker 14: a swap is literally that Japan had access to what's
Speaker 14: called a repo. A repo is like a swap. It's
Speaker 14: an overnight where you sell your currency and buy it back.
Speaker 14: They didn't want that. They want it taken off the market.
Speaker 14: Not forever, but for the foreseeable future. And so yeah,
Speaker 14: we own the Euros. They're sitting you know, in electronic
Speaker 14: form and banking, you know, New York or DC, and
Speaker 14: they'll just sit there until we decide we want to
Speaker 14: get rid of them.
Speaker 2: So now we get into the next steps here, what
Speaker 2: happens in the Japanese economy or what should we be
Speaker 2: looking for? What are the markers in the Japanese economy
Speaker 2: to see whether or not this has provided them value?
Speaker 2: And is there something we need to be looking at
Speaker 2: to see whether or not it has done us harm? Okay,
Speaker 2: I could not have answered that until you mentioned the
Speaker 2: political angle. Now I get it. So this is what
Speaker 2: I think is going to happen. I think it gives
Speaker 2: the Prime minister cover. I think it allows her to
Speaker 2: go to her you know whatever they call their you
Speaker 2: know Congress in Japan.
Speaker 14: I'm not familiar with that. And say, look, I've got
Speaker 14: Trump on my side. They're supporting us. Look what they
Speaker 14: did with buying yen. They've been very beneficial. Now, you guys,
Speaker 14: if you want me to keep getting my friend Trump
Speaker 14: to help us, you have to start helping me change
Speaker 14: some things in our economy. I think she's going to
Speaker 14: be able to use it as leverage to improve the
Speaker 14: elimination of the subsidies. I mean, I won't bore you
Speaker 14: with the details, but things like rice. It's amazing how
Speaker 14: much subsidy goes into the rice farms in Japan, so
Speaker 14: much so that there are blocks in Tokyo of rice farms.
Speaker 14: The most densely populated city in the world, and they
Speaker 14: have rice farms because of the subsidies make it so
Speaker 14: financially advantageous. I think she's going to be able to
Speaker 14: slowly change the policies, get people in the country on board,
Speaker 14: and I think she's using Trump's aid as a tool
Speaker 14: to make that happen.
Speaker 2: So kudos for her.
Speaker 14: I think she's doing a pretty good job in trying
Speaker 14: to use this for domestic gain.
Speaker 2: By the way, in Japan they have a bicameral system
Speaker 2: that comes based modeled after our system after the Emperor.
Speaker 2: Just as I only know little things here and there,
Speaker 2: doctor Will, it's one of the weird things that I know,
Speaker 2: Doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to be with us. There's
Speaker 2: much more show to get to keep it here. I'm
Speaker 2: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.
Speaker 8: I know you don't have the fever again in the
Speaker 8: regular season, but coming out of the break, one of
Speaker 8: the big news stories has been Sophie Cunningham and the
Speaker 8: protests for her and protests against her. And you know,
Speaker 8: they had a national televised game today and Cheryl, you know,
Speaker 8: for a shirt and it's just a conversation. I'm wondering,
Speaker 8: just what do you think about it? Do you do
Speaker 8: you think that's good for the league? Does it detract
Speaker 8: from the basketball? Is it just noise? I'm just wondering
Speaker 8: what your opinion is.
Speaker 2: So that's the question asked the head coach of the
Speaker 2: Golden State Valkyries. Her name is Natalie Nikassi.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony kats today. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you guys are here. Of course, the WNBA has screwed
Speaker 2: it all up. They've screwed it all up, every last
Speaker 2: bit of it. There is so much hatred in the WNBA.
Speaker 2: It is racial, it is sexual orientation based. They really
Speaker 2: don't want the popularity if it means that two white
Speaker 2: women might be popular. They it is clear it's what
Speaker 2: they've said, and all of this nonsense, so called anger
Speaker 2: towards Sophie Cunningham for saying girls should be a girl
Speaker 2: sports should be for girls. She didn't say anything political.
Speaker 2: It's totally normal. Now she is taking pictures with Riley Gaines,
Speaker 2: and Riley Gaines is definitely political. So you could argue
Speaker 2: she's playing in the space, or she's at least embracing it,
Speaker 2: or maybe she likes Riley Gaines. How would I know?
Speaker 2: Somebody at The Guardian wrote that she's anti trans and
Speaker 2: anti black. What in the world. But it goes to
Speaker 2: prove that the WNBA wants to be a league for
Speaker 2: black women. That more than anything, that's what they want,
Speaker 2: at least that's what the reporter class wants. This is
Speaker 2: where black women play, this is where black women are stars.
Speaker 2: But Kate and Clark has electrified the whole league and
Speaker 2: the whole country and Sophie Cunningham, it's popular, that's all.
Speaker 2: You can't control these things. You could utilize it to
Speaker 2: your advantage if you wanted to. But how does the
Speaker 2: coach of the Golden State Valkyries answer the question about
Speaker 2: what she thinks of what's going on?
Speaker 4: I think, thank you for that question, I think, just
Speaker 4: in terms of how I'm seeing it is if I
Speaker 4: could answer, it's like for me, sports is about belonging.
Speaker 4: It's about inclusivity. It's about allowing everyone to be their
Speaker 4: authentic self. You know, I'm big on that, just because
Speaker 4: I have been criticized for my height, for my ethnicity.
Speaker 4: I've been in those you shouldn't belong here many times.
Speaker 2: Sports is about belonging. Okay, I thought sports was about winning.
Speaker 2: I thought it was about fair play. I thought it
Speaker 2: was about excellence. It's about belonging. What possibly possibly are
Speaker 2: you talking about? What nonsense is this? What does your
Speaker 2: ethnicity coach have to do with any of it? Should
Speaker 2: boys play in girls' sports? The answer is no, and
Speaker 2: every other answer is wrong. And the WNBA, the w
Speaker 2: stands for women WNBA, it's the Women's National Basketball Association.
Speaker 2: And I know I'm telling you something you already know,
Speaker 2: and this has been your argument. How is it possible
Speaker 2: that they're doing this to themselves? Well, the answer has
Speaker 2: to be equally as it's obvious. They do not want popularity,
Speaker 2: they do not want growth, they do not want to
Speaker 2: get better. They want to be a welfare league. They
Speaker 2: want to have grievance, and they want only to cater
Speaker 2: to black women and gay women and no one else.
Speaker 2: Everyone else is a token who has to adhere to
Speaker 2: their powerful and yet wholly ugly politics or be excommunicated.
Speaker 2: It's not me saying it, they're saying. Don't get angry
Speaker 2: with us for noticing just how bigoted they are. They
Speaker 2: really will let men play in WNBA. It's coming to nday.
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