1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: So we have this NBA story. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Which is just nuts, this gambling story, and Portland Trailblazers 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: head coach Chauncey Billips was one of the people arrested 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: this massive, massive sweep that took place by the FBI. 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Tony Katz today. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Find everything I do over at Tony kats dot com, 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Live streaming Now, YouTube dot com, slash Tony Katz. Check 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: it out for yourself. This it's the stuff of movies. 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: They were absolutely right that they were taking the cards. 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: They were inventing these card games, and the cards were marked, 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: and they were tracking the car the car, and they 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: were wearing special baby special glasses. 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: And there are people out there who were very. 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Clear about the fact that, oh yeah, there is there 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: is no question, no question at all, that Terry Rozier 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: from the Miami he was cheating and this one was cheating. 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Was this whole thing was cheating. It's a crazy story. 19 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: And then you had some players who were throwing games 20 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: by giving themselves injuries or just you know, missing shots. 21 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: It's madness, madness, and this story should not fall off 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: the front pages because this is a real conversation about 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: What is actually happening inside these major leagues, whether it's 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: the NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer, National 25 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Hockey League, What happens, what goes on? There's big money 26 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: on the betting. What is it that we have unleashed here? Well, 27 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: in response to this, you have Stephen A. 28 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Smith from ESPN. I put forth to you that Stephen A. 29 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: Smith can sometimes be interesting, but I find myself completely 30 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: uninterested in Stephen A. 31 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: Smith. I'm not uninterested in everybody uninterested in him. 32 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: He has said things before I've agreed with, So maybe 33 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: a better way to say it is, I am not 34 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: I am not sure he's worth all the money he 35 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: gets paid, but hey, he gets paid the money. 36 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Good for him. 37 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: And he said something on ESPN that is quite possibly 38 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: the dopiest thing I may have ever heard. 39 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: Big Night for the NBA when Beyonna put on a 40 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: show that has now been smeared because we're talking about 41 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: this story. Okay, Remember Trump has a long, long history 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: connected to the world of sports because he had those casinos. 43 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: Way that you think folks will come in half the time. 44 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about individuals, I'm talking about the culture. 45 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: When people want to want to go to a casino 46 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: when people want to gamble, when people want to party, 47 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. 48 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: This was his kind of connection to that. 49 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: Why am I glad you're here, Monica, because don't be 50 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: surprised that the w NBA is next on his list, 51 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: Because when you've got all of these protests that have 52 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: been going out there and people that have been protesting 53 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: against him and what have you, this man is coming. 54 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: He's coming, And I'm what the hell are you talking about? 55 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: You think Trump said, hey, go investigate the NBA and 56 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: find a gambling ring that has connections. 57 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: To the mafia. Steven A. Smith, you said this while 58 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: you were sober? Did you believe it? 59 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Or you're like, Hey, I know it's gonna work. I 60 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: know it's going to create a little bit of controversy. 61 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: I know it's going to get people talking. It's stuff 62 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: like this, look out because Trump's coming for You've been 63 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: saying it. 64 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: For a long time, and to me, this is the 65 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: latest nugget of evidence that we're talking about right here. 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: That's not to question the legitimacy of the case. We 67 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: don't know. 68 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: We're all sitting up here with saying that we don't 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: know but anybody that has been around him, anybody that 70 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: has talked to him, anybody that has seen his reactions 71 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: from the sports leagues and the positions that people have taken, 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: they are not surprised at what's going on today. 73 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: That might be the dopiest thing I've ever heard. 74 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: If you want to engage a conversation that lacks all 75 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: intellectual theft, it is Stephen A. Smith saying it's revenge 76 00:04:54,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: by Donald Trump on people who haven't done anything wrong. 77 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: It's beyond ridiculous. When Cash Pttel, the FBI director, was 78 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: asked about this by Laura Ingram there on Fox News, 79 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: it was first a question about the investigation itself and 80 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: then this question about Stephen A. 81 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Smith. 82 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: How long has this investigation been going on? Was it 83 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: did an informant tip you off? 84 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 5: Well, I can't get into the nature of how we 85 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 5: got onto this, but it's been going on for some time. 86 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 5: As you can imagine, ferreting out a system where they 87 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: literally had scanners at the poker tables, where they literally 88 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 5: had professional athletes in the NBA walk off the court 89 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: so their proposition bets could be met. Is a coordinated 90 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: scheme with Lakasa Nostra and the individuals that we arrested today, 91 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: and it's been going on for some time, and we 92 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: are going to continue to work this investigation and those 93 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 5: that have been arrested today to make sure that illegal 94 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 5: gambling empires embedded with the La Casinostra are brought down, whether. 95 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: Than the NBA or anywhere else. 96 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, down the street, by the way, this was so wild. 97 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith, the sports commentator, suggested that this was 98 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: revenge from the president for all the kind of left 99 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: wing activism of the NBA. Your response to that, fifteen second, I'm. 100 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: The FBI director. 101 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 5: I decide which arrested conduct and which not to conduct. 102 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: That may be the single dumbest thing I've ever heard 103 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: out of anyone in modern history. And I live most 104 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 5: of my time in Washington, d C. It's right up 105 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: there with Adam Schiff. We arrest people for crimes. 106 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: Good answer. It was a ridiculous commentary. 107 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: And I am more commenced than ever that ridiculous commentaries exist, 108 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: not because the people are actually ridiculous, but because this 109 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: is what's going to get people talking. Oh you look 110 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: at you creating all this whirlwind. I you creating all 111 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: this It's a buzz. I'll look at the clicks. All right, 112 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: we keep you. 113 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: The crazier you talk, which I guess is why I'm 114 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: not on ESPN. 115 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: But if we want to talk about crazy talk, can 116 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: we talk about Sonny Hostin just for a moment if. 117 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: You don't mind. I know, I know, not everybody wants. 118 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: To talk about the view. That's unnecessary. You didn't have 119 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: to boomy. I mean, that's just that's just unnecessary. As 120 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: the day is long, Sonny Hostin, I don't think is 121 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: playing the game here. 122 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't. 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: I think Sonny Houston is stating out loud, look at me, 124 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm a bigot and I'm proud. 125 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Why are left such bigots? Why? 126 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: So let me get to the story here. She's talking 127 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: about someone. 128 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Who's I think child was killed. 129 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: That's awful, and so this is how she is engaging 130 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: a reaction to it. 131 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: As a mother of black children, I know that black 132 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 6: boys are not given the presumption of innocence and the 133 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 6: presumption of youth. She's calling the police and saying they're 134 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: trying to steal her car and they're eleven years old, 135 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 6: they don't know how to drive. And so for me, 136 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 6: what was interesting was I have had to be in 137 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 6: the position where I have gone to my local police 138 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 6: department because I know my son is going to be 139 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 6: training for the Junior Olympics, running around the neighborhood in 140 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 6: an all white neighborhood, and I have brought him to 141 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 6: the police and said, he belongs to me, this is 142 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 6: my son. Do not harass him, do not stop him. 143 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 6: So she was doing what so many black mothers do, 144 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 6: and she was killed for protecting her child. 145 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: Now I don't know the story that she is addressing here, but. 146 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Your neighbors and your police are such racists that if 147 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: your kid was out for a jog, he'd get arrested. 148 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why you moved to that all white neighborhood. 149 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Those people sound terrible. Well, those people sound like bigots. 150 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: Well maybe different, maybe they're not, And you're just calling 151 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: them biggots because this is what you do. This is 152 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: how you go through life, believing this day in and 153 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: day out. I have made the argument that I think 154 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: it is absolutely true that a black mother has a 155 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: different conversation with her son, with her black son before 156 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: going out for the evening that a white mother has 157 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: with their white son. I think both are saying be careful. 158 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: I think a black mother takes a look at what's 159 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: happening on television screen, whether it's being a blown up 160 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: story or not, and he says, hey, don't forget this, 161 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: and don't forget that. I'm not saying that that doesn't happen. 162 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: A black mother says to a black son, don't forget. 163 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: Everybody's a racist Jewish mother to her Jewish son, everybody's 164 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: an anti son. I never want did my mother say this, 165 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: never once ever? What a maddening thing. But this is 166 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: Sonny Hosting calling all her neighbors bigots, calling the cops bigots, 167 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: and she thinks this is intellectual theft. 168 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: See. I don't know if Stephen A. Smith believed it. 169 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: I am convinced that Sonny Hosten believes it, which will 170 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: bring us to Candace Owens. I have no idea if 171 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: she believes anything she says, but I certainly believe that 172 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: if you're still listening to her, well, then this friendship's 173 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: got to come to an end. I'm Tony Cats. This 174 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: is Tony Cats today.