1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: It's currently thirty four degrees on our way up to 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: forty three. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: My name is Casey. That is Jim. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: So you might have just heard in the newscast that 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Senator Jim Banks from Indiana is launching this new Truck 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Safe tip Line. 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: This is an online tool. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: And it's for truckers and industry workers to report unsafe 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: or unlawful trucking activity. The tip line lets people report 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: carriers that are suspected of breaking federal law, and it 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: includes those that employ drivers that are not legally authorized 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: to work or drive in the United States, and those 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: that don't meet the required safety or English language standards. 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: This tip line was launched following that fatal truck crash 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: that happened in Jay County in Indiana. That's where that 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: semi driver who was reportedly an illegal crossed an uncoming 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: traffic and killed four people. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: So I I went to the to the tip line. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's it? What's it say? 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's a form, that's it's what it is. 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: It's not it's just a website with a It's not 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: a one. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Eight hundred number or anything like that. It's it's a 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: form and it's intended to collect informational tips, but you 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: know you have to fill out all sorts of information 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: on it. I'm just curious. And they also want your 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: employment information as well. 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: If I'm to wait a minute, if I'm sending in 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: a tip I have, I can't do it anonymously and 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: correct and to the point where they have to know 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: where and who I'm employed by. It seems a little 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: unnecessarily intrusive. 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: Well, into all of this, they. 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: Also want the commercial driver's license number as well and 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: your employment status. 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm just I think it's a. 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: It's a good idea. I think the intention is good. 39 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: How successful will it be? How many people are willing 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: to put themselves out there like that and say, hey, 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: I think I've got something here and then go online 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: fill all this information out well? 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: And who's responsible for following up on these tips? That's 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: the other question. And do they have the resources to 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: follow up on all these tips? 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: And I mean, look, it would have been great if 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: we had had this come out last year before the 49 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 4: tragic accident up in Jay County. 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: Look, you talked about and mentioned earlier, and this is 51 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: a good thing. 52 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: I think the big benefit here is people are finally 53 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: realizing that we've got structural problems not only with our 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: immigration laws, and you know, Trump and his administration is 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: doing a lot on that, but in the way that 56 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: we hand out not only driver's licenses and commercial driver's licenses, 57 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: but professional licenses. You know, if you want to be 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: a barber or a bartender, you have to get certain 59 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: licensing in your states. And now we're starting to have 60 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: the discussion of, Okay, maybe we should be checking everybody 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: who's getting these licenses and seeing if they're allowed to 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: be in this country legally. I think that's really the 63 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: benefit here is just the continued awareness and the continued 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: focus on these structural problems we have with driver's licenses 65 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 4: and some states that are hand that them out willy 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: nilly to anybody. I mean, you can get a driver's 67 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: license in California pretty easily, and then all of a 68 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 4: sudden you're driving an eighteen wheeler in the state of Indiana. 69 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: Bringing awareness to that and trying to find ways how 70 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: we can keep that from happening and keep our roadways 71 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: a little bit more safe. I think that's what you'll 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: ultimately see as a better end result from this. 73 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: You asked who's going to be reviewing this Reports that 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: are submitted to the Truck Safe tip Line, They're going 75 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: to be reviewed and shared with the US Department of 76 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Transportation and its Office of Inspector General. And they also 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: have a disclaimer that centat to Bank's office does not 78 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: give out legal advice or assistance. 79 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: So appreciate that you do this. 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: You're on your own, yes, what they're saying exactly. Thanks 81 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: for the info. 82 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: Also really interesting that this is obviously all those tips 83 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: are being followed up at the federal level and not 84 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: at the state level, apparently at least according to that form. 85 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: So what is the latest with Nancy Guthrie, mother of 86 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: Today's show co host Savannah Guthrie has been missing since 87 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: February first, and we've seen this story plug out all 88 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: over mainstream media and the latest yesterday they put out 89 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: some pictures that were taken from the nest camera. 90 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot yesterday. As it relates to 91 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: the story. 92 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: Right after we got off the air yesterday around noon, 93 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: the FBI and Cash Betel posted it on his social 94 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: media accounts, released both stills and video of somebody that 95 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: you know, clearly didn't want to be recognized. I mean 96 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: it was interesting. They were clearly wearing like the long pants, 97 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: socks and a sche mask and gloves. I mean, they 98 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: concealed just about every square inch of their skin, so 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: it was tough to see anything. I think most people's 100 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: initial reaction to seeing those photos and videos was how 101 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: creepy this is? 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: That guy looked creepy. 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 4: You know, anybody when you've got video of somebody breaking 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: into somebody else else's house, I think that just gives 105 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: everybody the creeps on this. There's also the aspect in 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: the constant reminder that we live in a surveillance society, 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: and one that has not been instituted. It's not necessarily 108 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: exclusively instituted on us by states and governments and federal governments. 109 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: But by the population as a whole. 110 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: I mean, ring camera ring cameras are so popular and 111 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: so pervasive in this country, and they're everywhere. It's just 112 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: another reminder that seems like anything we do anywhere, cameras 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: are watching and we're being recorded. 114 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: And this was another reminder of that. 115 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: So a lot of people weren't asking though, if they 116 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: weren't paying for the service on the Nest camera, how 117 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: were they able to get those pictures. 118 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so and that video. 119 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: So there was a lot of discussion about this because 120 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: these services you can either just watch live video or 121 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: if you pay, you can you know, get your videos 122 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: uploaded to the cloud and access them. And obviously Nancy 123 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: Guthrie did not pay for that service, but you have 124 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: to think about it from the operator's perspective. And Nest 125 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: is owned by Google, and so the way Google manages 126 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: this is they they record these and hold on to 127 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: them temporarily because you may end up paying for them. 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: But they're deleted pretty quickly. 129 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: But as we all know, with any computer, when you 130 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: delete something that doesn't instantly mean that it's gone forever. 131 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: There's the potential for recovery for this. So what it 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: looks like is the FBI went to Google and said, hey, 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: we're looking for this camera. I know you don't store it. 134 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: I know you don't archive those and keep them for 135 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: very long, but it looks like they were probably able 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: to recover this footage from the deleted files at the 137 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: Nester or Google headquarter. 138 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: So he's the biggest cootie I've ever seen. 139 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 2: But on CNN you've got Brian Stetler saying that Google 140 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: apparently deserves a lot of credit for this video breakthrough. 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 5: You plug these in, you're able to see whatever the 142 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: camera see is. But unless you have a monthly subscription 143 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: to the cloud interface, there's not a backup of the recordings. 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: You're able to see the video live. If you haven't 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 5: plugged in, you're not able to see a backup. A 146 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 5: lot of people don't bother to pay for the backup 147 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: for ten dollars a month or whatever it is, because 148 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 5: all you're ever going to see on your cameras is well, 149 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: in the Tucson desert, maybe a coyote every once in 150 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 5: a while. But in this instance, according to the FBI, 151 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 5: the Google engineers, these data forensics experts were able to 152 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 5: somehow retrieve the raw material that was coming off the 153 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 5: camera live, that was being fed onto the servers live, 154 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 5: even though there was not a subscription. There's going to 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: be a lot of questions about that. And so far 156 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 5: we've only seen the video from it seems to be 157 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: the doorbell camera and not from any other cameras around 158 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 5: the homeboards. 159 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so what they're saying that Nest is saving the 160 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: footage of residents even if they don't subscribe to their 161 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: services and then sharing that data with authorities sounds kind 162 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: of crazy. It doesn't matter if somebody removes the camera 163 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: from the wall. The information is uploaded to the cloud anyway. 164 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: Later on in the program, we're going to talk about 165 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: that ring Super Bowl commercial that is making a lot 166 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: of people nervous in the what seems to be an 167 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: ever growing surveillance state, look at flock cameras for example. 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: But TMZ reported in regards to Nancy gu three that 169 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: bitcoin was transferred into the wallet of Nancy Guthrie and 170 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: within fifteen minutes they were knocking on somebody's door. 171 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so. 172 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: So the footage came out yesterday around noon, and then 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: what happened later on in the evening is it was 174 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: being reported that the entire not the entire ransom payment, 175 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: but about three hundred dollars, about three hundred dollars of 176 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: bitcoin was transferred into the wallet that was part of 177 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: the ransom note. And then immediately or very soon after that, 178 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the officers had somebody in custody 179 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: and they were answering them, you know, asking them questions. 180 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 4: And so the theory that went out then was, oh, 181 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: the bitcoin got transferred to that person's wallet, the person 182 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: accessed that wallet on their phone, and because anything you 183 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: do on your phone can ultimately be found by authorities, 184 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 4: that that's how they located in But that theory kind 185 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: of falls apart a little bit, or at least possibly 186 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: could fall apart because the suspect that was detained and 187 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: questioned last night authorities. 188 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: Have all rdlready released him, already, let him go, already 189 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: let him go. 190 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: So there's been a lot that's happened in some ways 191 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: in the last twenty four years also, and then also pretty. 192 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: Much nothing has happened. 193 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: And I've seen more and. 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: More people commenting that they're tired of the NonStop coverage 195 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: of this, that while they understand this is someone's mother, 196 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: there are more important things going on. 197 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: And that very well may be true, but not more important. 198 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: To Savannah Guthrie, I'm sure, but more many people. 199 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: More important to our country, and that very well may 200 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: be true. But media companies are businesses and. 201 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: It's getting eyeballs. 202 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: If people are watching this, they're going to keep giving 203 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: you more. So you can sit here and you can 204 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: blame the media companies. Why are you doing wall to 205 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: wall coverage about Savannah Guthrie's missing mom. But the real 206 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: fault comes down to the American consumer. If we weren't 207 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: watching this and consuming all the information about it like crazy, 208 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: which this country is, then the media companies would find 209 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: something else to cover. But it's it seems like most 210 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: people can't get enough of this story, and media is 211 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: going to satisfy that itch that everybody's trying to scratch 212 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: by getting more information. 213 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: So you've got countless Americans who passionately despise the start 214 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: stop feature in their car. My car doesn't have one 215 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: of this. In fact, I don't think I've ever driven 216 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: a car that has this. 217 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, my car doesn't have it either. But the only 218 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: time I've ever driven a car that had that auto 219 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 4: stop start function, it was a rental car, and it 220 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: is if you're not used to it, it is. 221 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: It's a little bit like, hey, what's going on. 222 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: And basically what the feature does is when you come 223 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 4: to a stop at a stoplight, your engine shuts off automatically. 224 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: Through you don't do anything, the engine automatically shuts off, 225 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: and then when the light turns green and you put 226 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: your foot on the gas pedal, then the engine starts 227 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: back up. 228 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Again. 229 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: So the EPA administrator Lee Zelden, he is very critical 230 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: of the future, saying that everyone hates it, and he's 231 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: doing something about it. 232 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: It's going to make it go away. 233 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I look, this has been a gripe and 234 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: a complaint from a lot of drivers for years since 235 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 4: they started this auto start stop feature started becoming prominent 236 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: on a lot of automobiles. My concern with it always 237 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: is you're starting your car not real easy on your 238 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: battery and your starter. So think about it. How many 239 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: times do you start your car a day. You started 240 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: once to go to work, once to come home to work, 241 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: maybe you run a couple of errands, maybe you start 242 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: your car five times a day. Well, if you've got 243 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: an auto stop start feature and you've got to commute 244 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: where you're sitting and stop and go traffic, a lot 245 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: of city driving and stoplights, all of a sudden, you 246 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: may be starting your car forty fifty times a day 247 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: when you were only starting at five times a day 248 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: under normal. Use that extra ten you know, ten times 249 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: more starting of your automobile. That's going to put an 250 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: extra strain on your starter and your battery. Those things 251 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: could wear out faster and I don't think that people 252 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: believe that there's much The reason why this was originally 253 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: done was environmental. 254 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: Revironmental and environmental. 255 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: Let create a problem and then we can charge a 256 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: whole lot of money to fix that problem. 257 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: Sounded like a great idea, but it turns out everybody 258 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: hates the feature and so at least having the ability 259 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: to turn it off. There's some vehicles that you have 260 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 4: the ability to turn that feature off, but there are 261 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: plenty out there where this happens, whether. 262 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: You like it or not. 263 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: So here's a mechanic and he's talking about this feature 264 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: which you were forced into. He says, it actually is 265 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: not a good thing, and it costs thousands of dollars 266 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: in maintenance. 267 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 6: The issues that it causes can be very difficultult to 268 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 6: diagnose as it's usually intermittent, and the repair isn't cheap 269 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 6: all right, So the takeaway is the cost and inconvenience 270 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 6: of repairs worth using the auto start stop feature? Well, 271 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,239 Speaker 6: my belief is no, not even close. In fact, unless 272 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: you are leasing or plan on dumping your vehicle before 273 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 6: it's out of new vehicle warranty. At that point, who cares. 274 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're actually going to spend more in maintenance 275 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: as you were talking about, so Lee Zelden. 276 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: He posted on his social media that the EPA wants. 277 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: To remove incentives for automakers to include this feature because 278 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: it's annoying to drivers and apparently it's costing you more 279 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: money in the long run. 280 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're certainly paying for it. I mean, it's 281 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: not cheap for the automakers to create that feature and 282 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: included in the cars. And while you may not be 283 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: purchasing it as an a la carte option when you 284 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: go to buy a new car, automakers are certainly rolling 285 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: up the cost of that feature into the overall price. 286 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: Of the car. 287 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: So we're going to be rolling back some regulations. 288 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: And the White House Press Secretary saying that this is 289 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: one of the largest deregulatory actions in American history and 290 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: it's going to save the American people money. 291 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. The family of. 292 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: The late Indianapolis Cults owner Jim ursay they've decided to 293 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: sell most of his massive memorabilia collection at auction and 294 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: that's going to start in March. The auction's to be 295 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: run by Christie's and it will include public displays ahead 296 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: of the sales. Lots of items up for grabs, including 297 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: a nineteen sixty nine Fender Mustang guitar which was owned 298 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: by Kirk Cobain, famously used in smells like teen Spirit 299 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: that one is expected to draw big crowds. 300 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what happens when state legislatures and city 301 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: leaders decide to give a billionaire sports team owner a 302 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: free stadium, like we did for Jim Ersay and the Colts. 303 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: That means he's got a lot of other money freed 304 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: up to spend on a lot of other stuff. Jim Ersay, 305 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: and this is not hyperbole, it's not exaggeration whatsoever. Probably 306 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: has the greatest collection of music and sports memorabilia housed 307 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: in a personal collection, you know, not sitting in a 308 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: museum or something like that. Incredible pieces, I mean rare 309 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: documents and manuscripts, including Jack Kirouac's original on the Road scroll. 310 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: He has the saddle from secretariat, I mean in credit. 311 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: He has one of Muhammad Ali's championship belts that sold 312 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: for He bought that for millions and millions of dollars. 313 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: This is going to be a big deal and I 314 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: cannot wait to see they haven't specified everything that's going 315 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: to be part of the auction, and we all know 316 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: Jim Mersey's got a huge collection, so it's going to 317 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: be really interesting. Once they get the full list of 318 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: exact items that are going to be part of this auction, 319 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: it's going to draw an incredible amount of attention. 320 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: Guitars won Z owned by John Lennon, Jerry Garcia, David 321 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: Gilmore and also Eric Clapton all part of that collection. 322 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: The online bidding will begin on March third and go 323 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: through the seventeenth, and in person sales are scheduled for 324 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: mid March. They say that a portion of the proceeds 325 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: are going to go to charitable causes that were meaningful 326 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: to ursay. I can remember when he went on tour 327 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: with these items, yeah, thinking well, this is just like 328 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: a rich guy show and tell It's exactly what it 329 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: was like. Look at how much money I have and 330 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: all of these cool things I've been able to. 331 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: He's got a game used bat from Jackie Robinson. I mean, 332 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: every single one of these pieces and this is kind 333 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: of a little bit in my wheelhouse. But as I 334 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: see the smallest of things that have been confirmed that 335 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: are going to be part of the auction. Every time 336 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: I see one, I'm like, oh, that's at least a 337 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: million dollars. Oh, that's probably four to five million dollars. 338 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: These aren't just you know, mid level collectibles. 339 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: These are the. 340 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 4: Best of the best of the best in each category. 341 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: I mean guitars owned by Bob Dylan and Jimmy Hendrix 342 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: and Kurt Cobain, tons of sports memorabilia that's part of this. 343 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: This is going to be an incredible collection, and there was. 344 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: In fact, famously, Jim Murfsey said at one point in 345 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: time he was offered more than one billion with a 346 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: b one billion dollars for his entire collection, and he 347 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: turned it down. 348 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ringo Star's first drum kit he used with early 349 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: Beatles recording. Some people are saying that this is great 350 00:16:52,000 --> 00:17:01,239 Speaker 2: because he was preserving history and buying these significantia pieces 351 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: and putting them on display for the public to enjoy. 352 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: But now these artifacts will be scattered to individual buyers. 353 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: They won't be in one central location. 354 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it took him a long time to build up 355 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: this collection, and like you said, it'll be scattered around 356 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: the country to individual collectors. Now it's it's it's amazing 357 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 4: how much money people will pay for significant items of memorabilia. 358 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: But these are who. 359 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: Are those people and where are they getting that money? 360 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, they're billion are they doing? They're billionaires? 361 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: Well look look so like I said, and they got 362 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: another new toy they want to show off. 363 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 364 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: We've talked about my business before, and I'm in the 365 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: memorabilia business, and I've got customers that I deal with, 366 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: and I know many many of them are you know, 367 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: guys that have so much money they retired in their 368 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: early forties and. 369 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: They don't know what to do with it. That's exactly right, 370 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: and so going to buy something that interests them. 371 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: They've got tens and tens of millions of dollars more 372 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: money than they can spend an entire lifetime, and so 373 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: they buy items that they can brag about with their 374 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: other millionaire fens friends. Hey, I've got Muhammad Ali's championship belt, 375 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: and yeah, I might have paid six million dollars for it, 376 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: but look what I have and you don't have. It 377 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: is a bragging sort of a pecking order or a 378 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: hierarchy that ultra high net worth individuals can use to 379 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: show off their wealth and brag about to the other 380 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: rich friends. 381 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember mister Wonderful saying that when he would 382 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: buy art and different sports items, it was because he 383 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: was diversifying his portfolio. He didn't want to put all 384 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: of his money in one place. But again, I go 385 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: back to Rich Guys Show and tell. 386 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: It's Rich Guys Show, and tell it absolutely is. 387 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: And while there is some sort of you know, I 388 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: kind of recoil and disgust at that that this is 389 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: an incredible amount of money that's being spent on you know, 390 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: quote unquote silly memorabilia items. 391 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: A lot of these things really are pretty cool. 392 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, come on, Kurt Cobain's guitar, that's 393 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: pretty cool. 394 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: Cobain in the news again. 395 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: We're going to get to that and also talk about 396 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: the January jobs report that came out. You're listening to 397 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC. Are you ready for a little inside Baseball? 398 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: I love it. Are we really going to be talking 399 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: about baseball? 400 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: No? 401 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: No, the figure of speech inside baseball? 402 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So during the news update and a commercial break, 403 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: we check to see if there's any breaking stories. But 404 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: then you look at me and you say, we really 405 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: need to pay bills today. 406 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's what I want to focus on right now. 407 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: Sorry, it's on the top of mind right now. It's 408 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: a concern. 409 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: We got a lot of problems, okay, a lot of 410 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 4: stuff to do. Our to do list is very, very long. 411 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: It's growing. If you say, we really got to pay 412 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: bills today? And what did I say? Yeah? 413 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: I know, and I got a lot of laundry to like, 414 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: what is going on at home? 415 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: Nothing? 416 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: Apparently our to do list is getting out of control. 417 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: It's out of control. 418 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, the January jobs report, it was better than economists expected, 419 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: with one hundred and thirty thousand new jobs added, and 420 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: that suggests. 421 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: Maybe a stronger start to the year. 422 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: Yesterday, everybody they were trying to handle expectations. 423 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: Okay, so wor thinking this job's report may not be 424 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: that great. So when it came out and said one 425 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand new jobs, oh my gosh, it's 426 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: parting time. Yeah. 427 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: There was a lot of handwringing about this. 428 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: And this job's report was delayed slightly because of the 429 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: partial government shutdown last week. You remember that, You remember 430 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: that partial government shut down from last week. So the 431 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: jobs report was delayed a little bit because that, and 432 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: because of that delay, it gave everybody time to do 433 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: what we love to do best in this country, speculate. 434 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: On what things will look like. 435 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: And there was a lot of whispers and rumors that, jeez, 436 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 4: maybe it's a negative jobs report or a zero jobs report. 437 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: It came out this morning that we added one hundred 438 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: and thirty thousand new jobs in January of twenty twenty six. 439 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: By the way, that was more than was added in 440 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: any one single month in the entire year of twenty 441 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: time twenty five. But there is this kind there is 442 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 4: a concern that the labor market is getting soft. Now, 443 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 4: this didn't show it out, but look, twenty twenty five 444 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: was not great for jobs growth, and it was down 445 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: significantly over what we saw in twenty twenty four. The 446 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: other bit of information that came out about this was 447 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: the overall unemployment rate ticked down one tenth percent from 448 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 4: four point four to four point three percent. 449 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: So you've got the jobs report coming back better than 450 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: what they expected. Sectors that were driving the gains included healthcare, 451 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: social assistance, and construction. That's a little bit surprising, right, 452 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: Some areas, like the federal government job shrank. Oh no, yeah, 453 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: you mean the sector that doesn't produce anything. 454 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an area I think where we can all 455 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: be happy. If there was a reduction in the number 456 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: of jobs, we'll make up for it in the private sector. 457 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: But it has been a soft job creation. You know, 458 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 4: the general rule of thumb that economists use is we 459 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: need about one hundred thousand jobs every single month just 460 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 4: to keep up with population growth. So if we get 461 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand new jobs every month, that'll keep the 462 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 4: unemployment rate about the same. Well, in the last year, 463 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 4: we've only had two months with one hundred thousand jobs 464 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 4: added or more, and so twenty twenty five was a 465 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: significant softening of the jobs market. And while today was 466 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: a good report, it doesn't come anywhere close to making 467 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: up for the shortness and shortfalls we had in twenty 468 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: twenty five. 469 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: But when you get down to the policymakers, they really 470 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: need to focus on real job creation through pro growth 471 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: policies and not just go for monthly headline grabs. We yay, 472 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: we had one good month. Okay, can you sustain it? 473 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: Can you keep it going long term? 474 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: And the other part of this that we keep talking 475 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: about and have for a couple of weeks now is 476 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: jobs are good, but what we really need in this 477 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: country is wage growth, because we've seen inflation and what 478 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: it can do, and the out of control cost of 479 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 4: housing and our utility bills and insurance and healthcare, and 480 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: those costs have gone up dramatically. Way have not kept 481 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 4: up with that, and that's what we really need more 482 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: than anything, wage growth, more than job growth. 483 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: Say so, we've heard a lot about corporate layoffs, especially 484 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: in tech, and I came across a couple different articles, 485 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: and I thought they both made some interesting points. 486 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: One article, the author is arguing. 487 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: That nobody's being honest about the real reason companies are 488 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: cutting staff, and they're saying that it's not lack of 489 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: profitability or necessity. The main reason is because of bloat. 490 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Many of these tech companies had so much bloat for 491 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: so long, and now they're realizing, yeah, we really just 492 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: don't need all of these people. The other article that 493 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: I saw was this guy who was admitting that he 494 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: had to lay off seven hundred people in his company, 495 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: and he told the stakeholders it was because of. 496 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: AI, when in fact it was not AI. 497 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: He just thought that that sounded really progressive, and that 498 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: was an answer that every oh, yes, we understand AI 499 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: technology that's getting in the way of jobs, when that 500 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: had nothing to do with it. 501 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me tell you a little bit about how 502 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: corporate America works at the executive level. So if you're 503 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: the CEO or president of a company, you still answer 504 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: to someone. You've either got a board of directors that 505 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 4: you answer to, or stockholders, or a lot of times 506 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: banks that you've got loans with. And what your constant 507 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: is they want a reason that's exactly right. What you're 508 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 4: constantly doing is trying to come up with stories to 509 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: tell people that are there to hold you accountable. Banks, lenders, 510 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 4: your board of directors. You need to tell them stories 511 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 4: about how it's a challenging environment. But we got this 512 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 4: plan going forward. And because AI is such a buzzword 513 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 4: that everybody in corporate America and banking is just completely 514 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: enamored with, CEOs and presidents of companies can get a 515 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: lot of leeway. All you got to do is sit 516 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: here and say, yeah, I know it was a tough 517 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: quarter and we're not making as much money as we 518 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 4: used to, but we're going to cut seven hundred jobs 519 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: and replace it all with AI and the board of 520 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: directors of the banks look at each other. 521 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: And go, oh yeah, yeah, that sounds like great, that 522 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: sounds like a good deal. We should definitely do that. 523 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: Well. On the flip side, that's also another reason why 524 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: many banks will give finances. 525 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh we need it for AI growth. Oh sure, you 526 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: bet ye. 527 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 4: Say no more, let me roll out the red carpet 528 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 4: and allow you to access as much money as you need. 529 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: But back to the point that you made earlier about 530 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: how a lot of these companies are cutting, especially tech companies, 531 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: tens and thousands of jobs. That we saw it from Amazon, 532 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: and we saw it from Meta, and then that happened 533 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: a lot during twenty twenty five. The weird thing is 534 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: all of those companies continue to see record. 535 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: Profits, I mean, without the people. 536 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: The best example I can come up with this is 537 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: when Elon Musk bought Twitter. So let's go back to 538 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: when Elon Musk bought Twitter and he paid forty four 539 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: billion dollars for it, and one of the first things 540 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: he did was fire ninety percent of the staff. 541 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: Twitter had like twenty thirty thousand employees. 542 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: And immediately he fires ninety percent of the entire staff 543 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: at Twitter. And yeah, there were a couple of bumps 544 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: in the road, and the apple wasn't working right for 545 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: a few weeks or a month, but then all of 546 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 4: a sudden, everything was fine. 547 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: With one tenth of the employees that he had before. 548 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: And by the way, Twitter has done more innovation, has 549 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 4: earned more money, their profits have been better since Elon 550 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: Musk took over and fired ninety percent of the staff. 551 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: It just goes to show that there are a ton 552 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: of examples out there where these corporations. Turns out they 553 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: got a lot more employees than what they need. 554 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: So, speaking of corporations, Ford reported their worst quarterly earnings 555 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: miss in four years and they're hoping to do just 556 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: a little bit better this year. They had some small 557 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: growth the first month of this year, but they are 558 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: missing their margins. 559 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 560 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: So Ford's strategy has been really interesting the last ten years. 561 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: Ford hardly makes any cars anymore, almost no sedan types 562 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: of cars. Ford is almost exclusively a truck and suv company, 563 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: and the vast majority of the profits and the most 564 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: profitable auto autos that Ford produces are the trucks, especially 565 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: the f one to fifty. So they've kind of backed 566 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: themselves into a corner by living and dying with their 567 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 4: SUVs and their trucks, and now they're starting to see 568 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: a little bit of softening in their earnings. 569 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they say they want to focus on their efficient production, 570 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: lean operations, and consumer preferred vehicles, not mandated technology goals. 571 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: That'll be a big difference. 572 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: When the government gets out of the way, they can 573 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: just create the cars that people want. 574 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: And this has been a huge challenge knowledge for Ford, 575 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: but all the automakers, because what's happened the last five six, 576 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: seven years. There's been this massive push EV, huge EV 577 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: government's incentive, staff, massive government incentives to develop electric vehicles, 578 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: and so Ford and GM and Chrysler and all the 579 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: other automakers poured billions of dollars into research and retooling 580 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: their plants so they can roll out this EV fleet. 581 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 4: And what happened last year the federal government eliminated the 582 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 4: seventy five hundred dollars tax credit when you buy an 583 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 4: electric vehicle, and all of a sudden poof demand for 584 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: electric vehicles evaporated almost overnight. The used car value on 585 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: Tesla's is incredible. You can look at like a Tesla 586 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 4: Model S that's a ninety thousand dollars car brand new, 587 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: you can pick them up when they're a couple of 588 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 4: years old now for less than forty thousand dollars, So, 589 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, ev is no longer the shiny 590 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: new toy, and the auto manufacturers are going back to 591 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: actually producing vehicles that the consumers want, not the ones 592 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: that the government wants. 593 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: So which car makes people the happiest? There was a 594 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: new report that came out from Consumer Reports, and their 595 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: data says that BMW is the most beloved mainstream automaker. 596 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: Seventy one percent of their drivers say they would buy 597 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: the same car again. They also did a test of 598 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: people who take selfies in their cars, and the people 599 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: that are smiling the most and the most often are 600 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: BMW drivers. 601 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: I read this article and I felt very seen because 602 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: of it. Because about how you know your what was 603 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: your favorite car? And why don't you have that car anymore? 604 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: It was BMW came up to be the number one answer, 605 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: And if they had asked me those questions, that's the 606 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 4: exact answer I would have given them. I had a 607 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: BMW that I drove for about three years, and I 608 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: absolutely loved that car in every aspect you. 609 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: Take lots of pictures of yourself smiling in it. 610 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: I took lots of pictures of it. I don't know 611 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: that I took any selfies, but I love that car. 612 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: It had this red leather interior. It was fast as 613 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: I mean, crazy fast car. But I had to get 614 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: rid of it because it was always in the shop. 615 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's cost too. 616 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: It was constantly in the shop, But I get this article. 617 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: That car was my absolute favorite car. It just didn't 618 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: make practical sense for me to keep it any longer. 619 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: Of course, Toyota cars are kept the longest, and nearly 620 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: ten percent of Toyota's are still with their original owner 621 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: after fifteen plus years. 622 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: And that's really been the hallmark, especially the Japanese automakers, 623 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: whether it's Honda or Toyota, or the South Korean manufacturers 624 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: like Hyundai, and their reliability that is baked into their 625 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: brand and it proves itself out in real life. And 626 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 4: you know, we had the story last week about the 627 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: JD Power results that came out with the top ten 628 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: cars in the country. And while Ford took the pickup 629 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: truck category both the small and full size pickup truck category, 630 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: it was all the Asian manufacturers South Korea and Japanese 631 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: manufacturers that took all of the SUV and Sedan awards 632 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: home that year. 633 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: There's a new report it's out on Kurt Cobain and 634 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: it was reported back in nineteen ninety four that he 635 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: died of suicide, but there is this new forensic review 636 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: challenging that and we'll talk about it coming up. 637 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. 638 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: We started off this morning talking about the El Paso 639 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: International Airport and now we focus on the Indianapolis International Airport. 640 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: They set a new passenger record in twenty twenty five 641 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: with about ten point six million travelers passing through the airport. 642 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: That's rough one hundred thousand more than the year before, 643 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: and this milestone shows some continued growth and recovery and 644 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: air travel demand for the Indianapolis area and. 645 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Also the broader Midwest. 646 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 2: Of course, they have added some new NonStop flights like 647 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: to Dublin and Putaquina, Nashville, and also Midway. 648 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: They weren't previously available, but now they are. 649 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: They've also added some specialty flights like what we saw 650 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: with the College Football Championship Game, so specialty flights tying 651 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: to major local events. 652 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to help boost your traffic. 653 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 654 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: Think about what you want in Indianapolis Airport. You know, 655 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: generally for several years now has usually come out on 656 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 4: top when they look at the best medium sized airports 657 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: in the country. And obviously they're getting more passengers in 658 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: the first time ever, having a million passengers go through 659 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: that airport in a single calendar year. Think about when 660 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: you travel and when you fly, what do you really 661 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 4: want from an airport. You want short tsa lines, okay, check. 662 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: The Indianapolis Airport has got that easy to get in 663 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 4: and out of. 664 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty easy. It's pretty easy to park your. 665 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: Car and to grab the shuttle bus and to move 666 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: around in the Indianapolis Airport. You want on time departures. Okay, 667 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: we're pretty good at that too, not a lot of 668 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: weather day delays, not a lot of delays coming from 669 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: the airlines. And then you want some decent food options 670 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: while you're waiting, because that's the other thing you do 671 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: more than anything in an airport is sit around and 672 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: wait for your flight to take off. 673 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: So it makes sense. 674 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 4: The Indianapolis Airport definitely checks all of those boxes, and 675 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: it's a great airport. 676 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: So you've got October of twenty five was the airport's 677 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: busiest month and it was the first time that they 678 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: recorded more than one million passengers in a single month, 679 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: surpassing previous travel levels. And it's got to be market driven, right, 680 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: and that's what you want, not government mandates people choosing 681 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: to come to Indianapolis or fly out of Indianapolis on 682 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: their own accord. 683 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: Oh here's a little pro tip too, now, So if 684 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: you're flying in and out of the Indianapolis Airport and 685 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 4: you park in the parking garage, not the economy lots 686 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: where you got to take the shuttle into the airport, 687 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: but if you park in the parking garage, as soon 688 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: as you walk out that skyway and get into the 689 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: parking garage, there is a little water vending machine that's 690 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 4: set up off to your right. 691 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: It's actually free. All you have to go is it 692 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: takes no money. 693 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 4: All you have to do is just go up there, 694 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: punch in the kind of number for which row and 695 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: number you want, and it'll give you absolutely free water 696 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 4: you want. 697 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: That is a little tip. 698 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 4: And let's hope that me now publicly announcing this doesn't 699 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: mean that there's a rush on it and the airport 700 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: shuts that down, but it's fully functional in working. 701 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: You get free water if you park in the garage. 702 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: A new private forensic review challenged the long standing official 703 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: finding that Kurt Cobain died by suicide in nineteen ninety four. 704 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: So you had a team of independent researchers and they say, no, 705 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: this was a homicide. 706 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, So let's kind of temper the headlines here. This 707 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: was done, like you said, by independent researchers. And by 708 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: the way, the local officials in Washington State have no 709 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: interest in reopening this case. As far as they're concerned. 710 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 4: This case is completely closed right now. But this was 711 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: always an odd situation. And I'm going to try and 712 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: explain this. I mean, he did unlive himself. That's how 713 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: he passed away, and I'm going to try and explain 714 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 4: it as best I can without being too gruesome. He 715 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: used He used a shotgun, and if you've ever used 716 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: a shotgun, you know that it would be difficult to 717 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: use that on yourself, just that it's got a long barrel, 718 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 4: the trigger is really far away. It's really difficult. So 719 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 4: these conspiracy theories about Kurt Cobain's death have been around 720 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: since he passed away in nineteen ninety four, and this 721 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 4: outside firm has kind of come up with a lot 722 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 4: more evidence and a pretty good theory that they put 723 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: forward year. 724 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they said that there were aspects of it, like 725 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 2: the autopsy, the toxology, and also the details on the 726 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: scene are more consistent with foul play, and that it 727 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: was staged to look like he unlived himself. 728 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: And that's something that had been talked about when he 729 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 4: passed away originally in nineteen ninety four. However, this is 730 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: probably just for a theater again, like we saw. The 731 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: King County officials there in Washington State have said they 732 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: have no plans to officially reopen the. 733 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: Kirk co Bain game. 734 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: YEAP, the case remains officially closed. You're listening to ninety 735 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: three WYBC