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Speaker 1: Then in Hip Hop Album Review ghost Face Killer Supreme

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Speaker 1: can't go live and actually live review a project and

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Speaker 1: we play a couple of songs from that project that

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Speaker 1: we feel that you guys should listen to if you

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Speaker 1: didn't hear it before. But today we're talking ghost Face

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Speaker 1: Killer Supreme Clientele to Hey, man, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the hell what's up with the water in New York,

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Speaker 1: But these Triple OG niggas is coming out the gate

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Speaker 1: like you young niggas can't rap for real?

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Speaker 2: Like that's that's the mess.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting for all of these Triple O g cats

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Speaker 1: cover back and just fucking rapid they ass off.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, for a while I was concerned with ghost

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Speaker 1: Face his voice because it's for whatever reason, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he was just sick for a little while. We

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Speaker 1: didn't know about it, but it just felt like his

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Speaker 1: voice wasn't the same, and I was worried for him

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Speaker 1: because that is so signature to him, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I know we got action Bron saying and that whole thing,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But after listening to this,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, ain't nothing wrong with that man voice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he a little bit older, you could tell, but ain't

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. Man, It's still buttery and feathery

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Speaker 1: as ever before, you know what I'm saying. I just

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Speaker 1: love how he slick talked. Bro, Like this dude was

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Speaker 1: a pimp in the past. Like, yeah, he's a hustler, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, he a street guy. But Bro, the way

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Speaker 1: he be talking, like with the women's stuff, Bro, Like

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Speaker 1: that's the shit that I always wuck with with ghost

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Speaker 1: Face Doc. And I also think that ghost Face did

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Speaker 1: a really good job of recapturing the essence of the

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Speaker 1: first one and just the vibe of that you know,

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Speaker 1: men nineties, late nineties era music with this without making

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Speaker 1: it sound like it's like old. And I think Rayclon

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Speaker 1: did the same thing and everything that mass Appeel has

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Speaker 1: been doing has just been extremely great. But now, man,

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Speaker 1: I really rock with this album. I just want to

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Speaker 1: give a little bit of space for y'all to get

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Speaker 1: y'all stuff in, and then I'll go into some of

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Speaker 1: the songs and stuff I like, Yeah, I feel you

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Speaker 1: want a nostalgia.

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Speaker 3: He really captured something here, much like Raycon.

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Speaker 4: I think ray Klon did it slightly better in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: But nah, I really like what Ghostats is doing here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: He kept, like you said, kept the excess essence not

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Speaker 4: just of like supreme clientele, but like the essence of

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Speaker 4: New York.

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Speaker 3: When we were talking.

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Speaker 4: About We've had conversations about reading and shit, and this

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Speaker 4: ship felt very regional and and like, but regional in

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Speaker 4: a good way, you know what I'm saying, the metro booming.

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Speaker 3: Like uh. But nah, Man, I really liked what he

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Speaker 3: did here.

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Speaker 4: I like the shots that he was taking, taking that

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Speaker 4: the new era with all the Paul ship, like.

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Speaker 3: Niggas always said, Paul got but I loved it though.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. Like That's one thing about Wo Tak.

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Speaker 4: I never felt like they were trying to like be

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Speaker 4: like even when the skinny jeans era happened, Like I

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Speaker 4: feel like they were against that, like they just kept

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Speaker 4: it tims and still kind of baggy jeans. Like I

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Speaker 4: felt like they they you know, bubble, they still kept

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Speaker 4: it very New York man.

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Speaker 3: And this is like it sounds like that here all right.

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Speaker 5: That's with him so much, man, yeah, so much back

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Speaker 5: in the day.

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Speaker 4: So I really like Curtis made with Conway and styles.

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Speaker 4: He I like the Redman intro, like the way he

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Speaker 4: set it off or whatever. I like the fucking uh

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Speaker 4: perfect ghost face metaphysics when I mean that ship the

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Speaker 4: city's rapping on that. The whole Candy Land ship was dope,

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Speaker 4: like man, like, I even like like the perspective that

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Speaker 4: it was coming from you, my friend, Like I thought

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Speaker 4: that was interesting, you know what I'm saying, Like the

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Speaker 4: way on that track, like, nah, man, this this has

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Speaker 4: some some dope stuff. The thing the thing I thought

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Speaker 4: about when I listened to this is like it's like

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Speaker 4: old man rap, but in a in a in a

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. When people say, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: that's the old man rap.

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Speaker 5: Modern, it's sounds like modern boombap right right right.

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Speaker 3: Right without sounding dusty.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: So so yeah, man, you know I think he captured

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Speaker 4: exactly what he wanted to capture on this.

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Speaker 3: Let see.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, all the it's were funny as hell, even

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Speaker 4: the sell of the centry ship that was like throwback,

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Speaker 4: that would throw back like be box like super throw back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you turn about regionality.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with you, and he he

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Speaker 1: threw all of those elements in there many like you said,

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Speaker 1: I agree. It don't feel dusty and don't feel old.

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Speaker 1: It don't feel like like you tried. It just felt

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Speaker 1: like this is you, like, yeah, that's what are you

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Speaker 1: supposed to do?

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Speaker 3: Like this is very authentic.

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Speaker 4: It felt very authentically and everybody else that was on

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Speaker 4: it same same shit.

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Speaker 3: I just I think I enjoyed ray Kuon is just

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Speaker 3: a little bit more me too. I think I like that.

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Speaker 3: I think I like the beats a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: And that's no ding on the ghost face, but I

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Speaker 4: agree with It's not it's not, it's just it's just

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Speaker 4: I think I enjoyed, like like the beats and stuff

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Speaker 4: and sequencing on rays.

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Speaker 3: A little bit better. Dang, I let down.

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Speaker 4: Was nas kind of because like I felt like Nas

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Speaker 4: gay ray Kuon the verse easily. In my opinion, it

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Speaker 4: was cool, but I think I think the beat didn't

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Speaker 4: allow him to really get off like that. I think

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Speaker 4: it's more so the beat that didn't allow him to

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Speaker 4: on Ray's Joint or whatever. So that was probably my

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Speaker 4: left because when I saw that, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: now I got another verse, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So but when I heard it, I was like, ah,

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Speaker 4: it's not it's not quite quite the feeling that I

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Speaker 4: got from the Rage joints.

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Speaker 1: So it's different energy, you know, that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more smoother, a little bit more viva. And not saying

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Speaker 1: that NA do well on it, It just it didn't

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Speaker 1: hit the same like Ray Ray the joint with Ray

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Speaker 1: and b I know, you know the name of the song.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm bad with all the names and ship

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Speaker 1: don't want to raised joint, But like that was just harder, bro,

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Speaker 1: Like that beat is meant to get your lyrics. This

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Speaker 1: is you know to me, And I know I always

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Speaker 1: throw this person in there, but you know, I could

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Speaker 1: definitely heard like Larry Drew do a hook to that

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Speaker 1: or something like that, like a more vibear person like that,

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Speaker 1: like Nas is cool, but it ain't it wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: be special because of the means.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, And maybe maybe that probably was intentional.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe maybe Ghosts probably wanted to give

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Speaker 5: him on some smoothie shit because na, it's just been

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Speaker 5: fucking ripping all his features and ship lately. So maybe

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Speaker 5: ghost was just like, yo, man, you know I'm the

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Speaker 5: smoothest out so I'm the smoothest out beat. You know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You know I can I can see that.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you all this though, did it seem

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Speaker 5: and I don't really mean this in a negative way,

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Speaker 5: but I wouldn't say didn't it seem a little weird

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Speaker 5: that like the second half of the album was like DJ,

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Speaker 5: like you hear that tie Boogie DJ talking throughout the

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Speaker 5: second like after they got once It, after they got

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Speaker 5: that skit that forced MD skit with Tye booking, and

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Speaker 5: then like every song break beats, beat box rap king,

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Speaker 5: like you kept hearing ty Boogie talking like on some

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Speaker 5: DJ clue shit or whatever. Yeah, like what you said,

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Speaker 5: the first half didn't have that, So like, huh.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you say that some of these joints were old

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Speaker 1: from joint man?

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Speaker 5: I was listening to him because go set and I

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Speaker 5: can't remember what interview because he's been on the press

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Speaker 5: run interviewing, but he said it was five joints on

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Speaker 5: here that he that that that was from during the

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Speaker 5: Supreme Clientele era, and I'm like, I was listening to

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Speaker 5: him myself, like trying to guess.

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Speaker 3: I forgot yep.

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Speaker 5: So like to me, I think Windows is from that era.

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Speaker 5: It's the joint Windows. I think the Disciple was from

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Speaker 5: that era. It's from that time period. I think that's

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Speaker 5: the older track. I think I think, uh, that's the

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Speaker 5: one that's after the Soul. Yeah, I can see yeh

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Speaker 5: hear that one? And then what was the other one? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 5: I was up playing a guessing game like a motherfucker, like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: which one is from? I forgot yep because he was like,

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Speaker 5: it's five joints I record that's that's that was that's

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Speaker 5: from the during that era, during that two thousand thousand

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Speaker 5: and one era when I record a Supreme Clientele, so

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Speaker 5: I studies on there and the rest of the joints

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Speaker 5: is new. So I was like, oh, man, so yeah,

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Speaker 5: when I first heard Windows, Bro, when I heard fourth

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Speaker 5: Decipher Windows, I was like, oh man, he shit. I

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Speaker 5: wish I could ask ghosts like, Okay, ghosts, which five?

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Speaker 5: Did I guess that shit right? Like I want to

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Speaker 5: be like, did I guess it right?

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Speaker 3: Ghost? But yeah, man, this was this was This was

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Speaker 3: a solid.

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Speaker 2: This was a solid.

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Speaker 5: I would put from ghosts. Man, I mean, I disagree

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Speaker 5: with your feet. I felt like ray Kwan did a

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Speaker 5: better job when he did only of capturing that feel

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Speaker 5: like when ray Quin named his album back in two

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Speaker 5: thousand and nine only bif Cuba Links Too, I was like, oh, man, like, bruh,

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Speaker 5: you can't name this after it's such a classic. And

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Speaker 5: I feel like Rayqwan did a great job of capturing

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Speaker 5: that flight. Not only bif A Cuba Links Too is

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Speaker 5: not on the level of the first one, but it's

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, it's it's up there, it's right there. Man,

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Speaker 5: it's the second best album after, you know, after the

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Speaker 5: first Cuban Lenks. I feel like this one didn't really

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Speaker 5: capture that supreme clientele too, which and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 5: ding him on that because it's twenty five years later,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Of course it's gonna I'm

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Speaker 5: not I'm not expecting this to sound like Rizz a

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Speaker 5: fourth disciple in the nineties type production that that Riz

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Speaker 5: was in the back back during that time. So and

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Speaker 5: I know he was gonna have different producers on here.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, I disagree with you on that, but

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Speaker 5: not like like I'm not dinging it or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: I just think Ghost did a good job of making

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Speaker 5: a good modern boom back sounding album that don't sound

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Speaker 5: like he's trying to It wasn't sound like he was

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Speaker 5: trying to sound like the nineties like he was like, motherfucker,

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Speaker 5: Shout to Knives and what they doing the mass appeal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's dope. Man, it's really dope to see. It's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know, uh, you know when Iron,

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Speaker 6: Dance music here and there, which which I actually enjoyed

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Speaker 2: Same thing with Rapp Kingpin as well.

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Speaker 2: I could have did it. I could have did away

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Speaker 6: I don't really need all the skits like that. I

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Speaker 2: I really like that one.

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Speaker 6: I love what NAS was saying on there, and I

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Speaker 5: But I love That's what I'm saying. I think it

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Speaker 5: I love his first conversation is nice.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Project twenty tweeted five mandated by reagulon

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 6: That that ship right there. I'm like that, that's what

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Speaker 2: It was kind of keeping things like.

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Speaker 5: Which, say, what do you say, Ken black on Black

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I love what he was

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and I'm with you guys on to you

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I do, like, like you said, be

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Speaker 2: But man, my ship, don't hear y'all the.

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Speaker 5: Because of the sad Hey, that's classic Ghost.

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Speaker 1: Can you know?

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Speaker 5: You know Ghost is going to have a song where

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here, I'm listening to two songs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: The first time I listened to it, I don't know why.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I was just kind of you know, my first

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Speaker 2: So I heard it, I'm like, and I love that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's dope. He kind of got

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Speaker 6: It wasn't until like the second, maybe the second or

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Speaker 2: It's just the whole motherfucker that ship. My mind. Yes, Bro,

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Speaker 2: that ship was so fucking dope to me. Bro, he

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Speaker 6: Man, that's it's insane, like playing bro, that's incredible.

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Speaker 5: Man, he did that before. He did a few times. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So that's I love that ship.

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Speaker 6: Bro, That's one of my favorite songs. Bro, he was

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Speaker 5: The action Browson when he had the song he had

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Speaker 6: And again that's one of my favorite songs by the Commodore.

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Speaker 2: So that ship that shit was crazy.

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Speaker 6: But overall, man, I thought this was a really really

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Speaker 2: But I think overall, again, be im with you, like

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Speaker 6: Is doing over there is incredible, taking these guys, revitalizing

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Speaker 2: Yes, bro, And and that's it. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. No one's talking about what he's doing

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Speaker 5: like this is crazy, and the work has been quality

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Speaker 5: So I'm really curious how he's finish this out with

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Speaker 5: this is crazy. What did I say?

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Speaker 3: No, I figured it out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it does feel like it is flying under the

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Speaker 2: Getting more credit as well.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know what it is hip hop media

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, why is nobody talking about this the stuff

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Speaker 6: You know, it's it's not really necessarily about the music,

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Speaker 6: I think it's just lack of focus on things that matter.

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Speaker 1: like that run was covered and it got I think

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Speaker 1: the adequate fanfare right for what for for what it

438
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Speaker 1: was ago.

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Speaker 5: You go from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three.

440
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Speaker 3: It was because of hit Boy.

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Speaker 6: That was almost five years ago. When that shit started.

442
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 6: The hip hop media was in a different space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, you you you ain't lying. Niggas.

444
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Niggas was literally locked up, so hem you know what.

445
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: Never ahead, I was gonna say hit Boy. Hit Boy

446
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: had the name, like, yeah, he was the hot one,

447
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Speaker 1: right ah, you know what that's what it is, tim, Yeah,

448
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: the time and the timement was right for them.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, let's get into these grades. This is your

451
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: first time here. We're grading the flow, the lyrics, the production,

452
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: the features, the execution, the replay value, and the overall.

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00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: I'll start off with the flow.

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Speaker 3: Give me B plus, give me solid B on flow.

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00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be plus on flow, okay, okay?

456
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: Uh, lyrics, I might have be plus. Man, I funk

457
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: would go see my favorite. I'm gonna go the solid

458
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: BE on the lyric.

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Speaker 2: Lyrics as well.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to solid.

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00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 6: Better be plus on lyrics, okay, okay.

462
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: Production, I'm at a solid B.

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00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 3: On production, I'm at a C plus.

464
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 5: I'm at a B minus. Damn you hired Ken?

465
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: I am okay?

466
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: Hey like it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

468
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: Like that? So I don't but I fucked with the

469
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: production on here, bro.

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Speaker 3: I can't say I'm old school nigga.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the features for me, give me B plus.

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00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to go to a solid B on

473
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Speaker 3: the features.

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00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to be plus on the features as well.

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Speaker 2: So am I B plus plus?

476
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

477
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Speaker 2: All right?

478
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Speaker 1: With the execution, I'm at a B only because I

479
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: feel like the album was a bit long and I

480
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: know the skits make more tracks, but fifty minutes, it

481
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: could have been a B plus, but I'm at a

482
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Speaker 1: B and that's a personal thing.

483
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: Execution is actually my highest grade B plus. I feel

484
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: like he did exactly what he wanted to do on here.

485
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm nitpicking here. I gave it a B minus

486
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 5: only because it was just weird with the DJ twist

487
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: in the middle, like the second half of the album,

488
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 5: like to not have that the first half of the

489
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 5: album and then you got this DJ talking all right

490
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: yah yeah, yeah, a new ghost Face such and such,

491
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 5: like it was just it was, I don't know, it

492
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 5: just it seemed a little weird.

493
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Speaker 4: But you know, somebody else did that too before, where

494
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 4: they had a DJ come.

495
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Speaker 3: Here last minute, I want to say, or somebody.

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Speaker 5: It would have Yeah, it would have made sense if

497
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 5: he did that on the first Supreme Clientele. But you know,

498
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, cool, we're keeping that theme up. But

499
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 5: like that's never happened on the ghost Face album. It's like, wait, man,

500
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 5: you got a DJ talking over here. So yeah, it

501
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 5: was just weird.

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Speaker 2: For me.

503
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: It was just kind of weird. So that's why I

504
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 5: give the sincrest and execution to be minus.

505
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go and be plus for the opposite reasons. B.

506
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: I like that added element that he did.

507
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 6: You know again, I think it may tap into the

508
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 6: nostalgia feeling for me. Taking me back reminded me of

509
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 6: you know, the quote unquote good old days for me.

510
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 6: But I like how the energy changed and turned. So

511
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 6: I'm matter be plused on execution replay value.

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Speaker 1: I'm I have a B here, but I'm gonna go

513
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Speaker 1: be plus. I'm gonna switch it live. I might be

514
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Speaker 1: plused on replay value.

515
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm actually at a C plus on replay value. As

516
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 4: much as I like as much as as much as

517
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: I like what he did here is just other albums

518
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: that I see myself playing more for the remainder of

519
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 4: the year. I'm just not gonna play this as much.

520
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: I do like joints on here, but I'm just not

521
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: gonna play it as much out as I play like

522
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: the ray.

523
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Speaker 3: Corn for instance.

524
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, the Jed, the uh like

525
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 4: everything else that that I put higher Afred or all

526
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: that stuff.

527
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be bumping out lot more than I

528
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: than I go and put this song.

529
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just I'm going to solid B for replay that.

530
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: Would be here for replay value.

531
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Speaker 3: I'm surprised.

532
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm surprised.

533
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Speaker 6: I almost changed it, but at least a B plus.

534
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 6: Honestly almost changed it to a B plus. I think

535
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Speaker 6: I would. I think part of the issue is is

536
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Speaker 6: the length of the album, because it's a forty eight

537
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 6: minute commitment, and I think that's why I.

538
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: Shaved off the plus from it.

539
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 6: I think if it was just a little bit shorter

540
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 6: in terms of like run time, it could have gotten.

541
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: To be plus easy. But almost changed when I was

542
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: looking at it.

543
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna stick to what I wrote here, and

544
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 6: I think that is the reason why it's not to

545
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 6: be plus overall.

546
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Speaker 2: Matter be plus.

547
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: Overall, got to be minus even tho I'm not going

548
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: to play like that. I can't deny that this is

549
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: a solid project from Ghosts.

550
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm at a solid B with the.

551
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Speaker 2: Overall uh plus overall. Say that plus came back, that's

552
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: where it's at.

553
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: Okay, shout out to mass Appeal the NAS for revitalizing

554
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: nineties era hip hop and keeping it authentic. I think

555
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: that's the biggest takeaway from all of these projects that

556
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: we've gotten so far. Just super authentic to the artists,

557
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: not even to the artists in the art form, not

558
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: even to the era. Forget the era, because they're going

559
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: to bring that with them, because that's the coth that

560
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: they're cut from. So again I appreciate nas and mass appeal,

561
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: not trying to make this into something that is not

562
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just because you have a

563
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: name associated with these projects. But again, super dope project.

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Speaker 1: I think the grades accurately reflect how we felt about it.

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00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: So let us know how you feel. Like commony, subscribe

566
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: and you already know the conversation is the conversation. After

567
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the conversation, give us your grades, let us know how

568
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: you feel about this particular project. We will catch you

569
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: on another where we're out in peace.

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Speaker 2: BA