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Speaker 5: Doing fantastic rop Thanks for the trip, Y, Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: got the governor who is a staunch proponent of it,

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Speaker 1: who could make a whole bunch of money off of it.

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Speaker 5: On the website that promotes the corridor, their biggest selling

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Speaker 5: point is it will save resident It will save citizens

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Speaker 5: five minutes getting from Indianapolis to Nashville, Tennessee five And

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Speaker 5: this is on the website. This is something they're touting

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Speaker 5: for three or four billion dollars it's wild, all right,

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Speaker 5: So we'll have that tomorrow. I just wanted to preview that.

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Speaker 5: So in the meantime I found some audio that I

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Speaker 5: thought was fascinating. And this is a little montage of

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Speaker 5: Democrat high profile Democrat politicians, two of them Presidents Obama

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Speaker 5: and Clinton, and Hillary's in there as well.

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Speaker 1: And this is Democrats talking about how we've got to

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Speaker 1: do everything we can to stamp out illegal immigration.

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Speaker 10: If you're a criminal, you'll be deported. If you plan

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Speaker 10: to enter the US illegally, your chances of getting caught

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Speaker 10: and sent back just went up. The actions I'm taking

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Speaker 10: are not only lawful. There are the kinds of actions

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Speaker 10: taken by every single Republican president and every single Democratic

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Speaker 10: president for the past half century.

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Speaker 7: I think we got to have tough conditions.

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Speaker 3: Tell people to come out of the shadows.

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Speaker 7: If they've committed a crime, deport them.

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Speaker 3: So oh, questions asked, They're gone.

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Speaker 8: All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected,

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Speaker 8: but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed

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Speaker 8: by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country.

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Speaker 2: The jobs they.

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Speaker 8: Hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants.

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Speaker 8: The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.

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Speaker 8: That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our

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Speaker 8: borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards,

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Speaker 8: by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before,

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Speaker 8: by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits

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Speaker 8: to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you,

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Speaker 8: we will try to do more to speed the deportation

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Speaker 8: of illegal aliens who a arrested for crimes, to better

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Speaker 8: identify illegal aliens in the workface, as recommended by the

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Speaker 8: commission headed by a former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are

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Speaker 8: a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation

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Speaker 8: of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self defeated for

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Speaker 8: a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse

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Speaker 8: of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years,

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Speaker 8: and we.

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Speaker 2: Must do more to stop it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I guess maybe they just plumb forgot It's kittle

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Speaker 1: Casey Show and Rob producer Jason Jason dosers in with us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be working on some stuff for tomorrow's show.

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Speaker 1: But isn't it amazing how quickly I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: relatively short period of time right, Like, that's thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton is talking about, we need stricter immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 1: You can't be breaking the law in this country. And

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Speaker 1: now you've got the Democrat Party which is wholly invested

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Speaker 1: in illegal immigration.

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Speaker 5: Look, if they wanted to win this opinion battle, the

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Speaker 5: public opinion, all they had to do was go back

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Speaker 5: a few years and say, look, if you want to

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Speaker 5: come pick tomatoes, you want to come work, we will

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Speaker 5: vet you, we will.

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Speaker 2: Get you over here.

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Speaker 5: And all they had to do was refuse the criminals,

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Speaker 5: and there would be no way that the American opinion

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Speaker 5: would be yes, get these get these illegals out of here,

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Speaker 5: because they would not be looking at them as criminals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the problem. Right.

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Speaker 1: They had a do drop in policy. We remember like

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Speaker 1: one of Biden's first press conferences as present. He probably

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Speaker 1: didn't know he was saying it, but he literally was

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Speaker 1: telling people what to say on the other end of

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Speaker 1: the phone, like if we capture your kid, if you

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Speaker 1: send your child up here and we call you, here's

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Speaker 1: what you say. And people are like, you're telling people

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Speaker 1: how to scam the system, and we're not going to

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Speaker 1: tolerate it.

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Speaker 5: Which made it easy for the average American to push

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Speaker 5: back on it. Yeah, and just say, we don't care

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Speaker 5: about the tomato pickers. We don't care about grandma there.

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Speaker 5: They're just trying to make a living. You got to,

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Speaker 5: you know, you got to get rid of all of

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Speaker 5: them because you let too many in and you let

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Speaker 5: the wrong ones in. Again, if you'd let half of

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Speaker 5: those people in, you still would have had your census,

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Speaker 5: you still would have had your votes, and the American

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Speaker 5: public would have said, well, you know, they're not causing

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Speaker 5: me harm other than the paycheck. That sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: It would have been able to get by.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now, I know you're going to be interested

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Speaker 1: in this because when we come back, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the government shut down and was supposed to be about

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Speaker 1: like paying the troops, right, and it turns out that

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Speaker 1: when the government reopened, there was language And this will

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Speaker 1: shock you, Jason. It was in the cover of darkness

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Speaker 1: inserted into the bill that nobody knew about. Is going

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Speaker 1: to have a profound impact on an industry in Indiana

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Speaker 1: that a lot of farmers depend on to make a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. And in fact, it's I know something

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Speaker 1: close to you, aren't you the host of like the

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Speaker 1: Midwest HEMP Council podcast or did you used to be

537
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Speaker 1: like you had a lot of this sounds crazy, right,

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Speaker 1: but you had a lot of experience with the HMP industry,

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Speaker 1: right right.

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Speaker 5: And I still technically am the podcaster. You can go back,

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Speaker 5: you can find those, you can google and that sort

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Speaker 5: of thing, but we haven't done one in a long while.

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Speaker 5: There was a message when they first came out, justin Swanson,

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Speaker 5: Jamie Petty, when they first they were really strong in

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Speaker 5: this and they needed to be and look where it

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Speaker 5: got us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when we come back, there is major changes

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Speaker 1: to HEMP in this country as a part of the

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Speaker 1: government reopening. It's going to have potentially tens of millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars of economic impact on Indiana. Farms could potentially

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Speaker 1: be shut down. This is bad news. Justin Swanson from

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Speaker 1: Bose McKinney. You'll be with us to tell about it.

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Speaker 1: Kenel Case show aty three WIBC.

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Speaker 8: Let's look at that dude with lights comment up.

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Speaker 1: In So it turns out the government shut down a

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Speaker 1: couple months ago ended up being about a lot more

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Speaker 1: than just hey in the bills, and when it reopened,

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Speaker 1: there was some legislation that could be very damaging to Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: It's Kendl and Casey Show, joined in studio by Justin Swanson.

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Speaker 1: He is, well, he's a big wig over there. Bo's McKinney.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out in the government shutdown wants the

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Speaker 1: bill to reopen the government shut down, hemp is going

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Speaker 1: to be banned in this country. Yeah that sounds crazy,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Hemp is going to be banned in this country?

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Speaker 1: So how will this affect Indiana, Indiana industries, Indiana, Indiana farmers.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows better than Justin's Swanson. As I said, he's

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Speaker 1: an attorney with Bose McKinney. You're kind of like the

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Speaker 1: like the hempzar.

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Speaker 11: You someone has to hempar I think that's what Well, yeah,

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Speaker 11: so tell us a little bit about because this came

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Speaker 11: out late in the bill that essentially they made hemp illegal.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 3: So really you got to kind of know how this

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Speaker 3: all came about to begin with in the original Farm

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Speaker 3: Bill in twenty fourteen, and Senator McConnell stepped up and

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Speaker 3: led the hemp industry in a big way to you know,

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Speaker 3: basically decouple hemp from marijuana and allow American farmers to

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Speaker 3: put it back on their family farms and you know,

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Speaker 3: have a nice rotational crop.

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Speaker 2: Seems pretty common sense, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, since then, the market certainly evolved, right, And the

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Speaker 3: way the language is written, I mean, it essentially allowed

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Speaker 3: for a lot of different products to hit the marketplace,

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Speaker 3: but not just the language. Everyone forgets. The FDA was

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Speaker 3: required to regulate hemp products in this bill.

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Speaker 1: And himp is not weed, that's correct, Like people think

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Speaker 1: that him It is not like HYMPSND also some stuff

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Speaker 1: that we use every single day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you basically have three end markets for it. You

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Speaker 3: have the fiber, so that's the variety that grows real tall,

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Speaker 3: you know, fifteen foot plants. You have the grain which

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Speaker 3: is three four foot plants, and you're growing it for

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Speaker 3: the seed. And that's really good for farmers because you

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Speaker 3: can have a domestic supply chain of animal feed right

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Speaker 3: there on your farm. And then the last industry, which

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Speaker 3: is the largest right now, which is the cannabinoid industry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Indiana farmers were all over this, right, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people doing this. It seemed to be working

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Speaker 1: pretty well. Who didn't want this and why did, why

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Speaker 1: is him now no longer legal?

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Speaker 3: Well, it turned out, you know, the evolution of the

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Speaker 3: marketplace SNA and McConnell wasn't a big fan of it,

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Speaker 3: so he was leading it. Yeah, so he doesn't like

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Speaker 3: the quote intoxicating aspect of it. So maybe you see

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Speaker 3: in the grocery stores around here in Indiana or on

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Speaker 3: premise at bars and restaurants, we now have these THHC drinks, right,

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Speaker 3: and those are making a big dent in the marketplace.

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Speaker 3: I think you've seen the headlines and the data all.

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Speaker 3: You know, alcohols being assumed a lot less than it

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Speaker 3: was in the past. Right, people are shifting their consumption

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Speaker 3: over to cannabis products or hemp products, like the drinks.

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Speaker 1: So this was about special interest being mad that the

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Speaker 1: market was shifting.

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Speaker 2: Well, like, that's such attorney speak that you didn't be.

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Speaker 1: Like, there's a shift in the marketplace. No, no, no, we

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Speaker 1: speak directly her Swanson. A bunch of special interest people

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Speaker 1: were mad that their monopolies on things were going away.

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Speaker 3: Well, and what is what is the state of Kentucky

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Speaker 3: known for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, bourbon, right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we had a big dip in the marketplace,

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Speaker 3: and over the weekend, in that big beautiful bill that

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Speaker 3: was designed to you know, open the government back up,

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Speaker 3: there's language insert in there that literally makes even the

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Speaker 3: act of processing hemp into whatever oils, no matter how

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Speaker 3: many THCs in it, illegal again.

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Speaker 2: So okay, so let's re recap this for people. So

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Speaker 2: there's this whatever.

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Speaker 1: Forty day shut down, however long it went, and it's

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Speaker 1: about reopening the government. But this is what always happens

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Speaker 1: in government stuff is there's a bunch of suffing and

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Speaker 1: pertain to you know, paying service members or making sure

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Speaker 1: FEMA can get resources to people. Then they sneak in. Now,

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Speaker 1: himp's just poof illegal. Is that the way we're down?

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Speaker 3: That's right? I mean there's a backdoor ban, and I

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Speaker 3: think every American should be concerned when policies passed in

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Speaker 3: such a way.

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Speaker 1: Can they do that? So are all these people, these

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Speaker 1: hemp farmers, they've just done.

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Speaker 3: So that's a great question. So what we've been working on.

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Speaker 3: The band doesn't actually take effect until November of this year,

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Speaker 3: so they delayed the ban a year. I'll let you

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Speaker 3: guess on why that was, but it might have something

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Speaker 3: to do with setting up a regulatory structure right at

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Speaker 3: the federal level. But in the meantime, what that ban

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Speaker 3: has done is at hill the capital markets. Right now

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Speaker 3: is when American farmers, including who's your farmers, are deciding

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Speaker 3: what their planning season looks like. They're making decisions right now,

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Speaker 3: and now they're forced to make a decision with no

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Speaker 3: certainty on whether they're going to have an end market

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Speaker 3: come November.

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Speaker 1: So this sounds by the way, Justine Swanson from Bose

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Speaker 1: McKinney is our guests.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about.

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Speaker 1: HIMP, which will soon be illegal in this country. So

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Speaker 1: all these farmers see people put millions of dollars into

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Speaker 1: their their crop, their you know, their resources a decade,

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Speaker 1: they're just done.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And this we've got the America. I feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm missing something here. No, that's it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the American farmers built this industry, right they were told

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Speaker 3: to grow it again. Right now, it's about a thirty

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Speaker 3: billion dollar industry across the country. And so what we've

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Speaker 3: been working on now with Congress is an extension of

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Speaker 3: the ban. Right So we're asking Congress for another two

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Speaker 3: years starting in November, to not ban HIMP and give

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Speaker 3: us time to work with Congress to this is crazy

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Speaker 3: to me, it is, and think about it from a

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Speaker 3: farmer's perspective, Rob they already have to have a background

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Speaker 3: check to grow this commodity, right, They have to get

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Speaker 3: fingerprint fingerprints, they have to get it tested before they

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Speaker 3: even harvest it. And now they wake up and their

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Speaker 3: market's gone in November.

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Speaker 2: That is just nuts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So art is the Congress responsive to this? Like

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Speaker 1: the idea that if we're going to shut down an

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Speaker 1: entire industry, there should probably be more than a oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, one year unwine period for it.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So we are getting a little momentum on

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Speaker 3: the on the extension. So particular Congressman Baird has been

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Speaker 3: really helpful to work with on this issue, not just

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Speaker 3: now but really.

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Speaker 2: He's up for re election so it's a near time

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Speaker 2: to get him.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's always been a big supportive hempen and more

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Speaker 3: particularly you making sure our farmers are taken care of

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Speaker 3: and have options on the farm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what what there's always the reason which we've

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Speaker 1: hit the reason, which is our special interest that didn't

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Speaker 1: want it, But what like, what is their publicly.

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Speaker 2: Espoused thing to humanity.

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Speaker 1: These politicians saying, why this thing now, after ten to

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Speaker 1: eleven years, is suddenly a plague on society?

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Speaker 3: So I hit on earlier FDA failed to put forth

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Speaker 3: regulations to regulate these products. So in the.

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Speaker 1: Meantime, shouldn't they yell at the FDA for that rather

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Speaker 1: than the farmers?

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Speaker 3: That's right. But our market competitors have framed this as

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Speaker 3: as we're selling we're marketing intoxicating products and selling intoxicating

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Speaker 3: products to kids. I see, So how could you be

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Speaker 3: against that?

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Speaker 2: Think of the children.

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Speaker 3: So that's the way the issue has been framed on

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Speaker 3: the hill. And frankly, our strongest I think point is

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Speaker 3: our story and it's turned into our weakest point just

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Speaker 3: because we don't we're not as well organized or politically

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Speaker 3: connected as our competitors.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you guys, there's a poll that came out.

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Speaker 1: The HEMP people did a poll on how strongly people

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Speaker 1: in Indiana support HEMP.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So this was directed at six hundred likely

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Speaker 3: primary Republican voters in Indiana and done in response to

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Speaker 3: this backdoor band to make sure that we are heading

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Speaker 3: down the right way.

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Speaker 1: And this is not this is just for people that

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Speaker 1: you targeted people in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: This is an Indiana based.

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Speaker 3: Poll, yeah, and Republican primary likely voters. Yeah, so we're

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Speaker 3: very specific demographic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So for all of our people who may be running

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Speaker 1: for reelection and or challenging those running for reelection, this

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Speaker 1: is this is right into your wheelhouse, right, So what

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Speaker 1: to say?

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Speaker 3: So I think probably the biggest takeaway is by nearly

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Speaker 3: a three to one margin, nearly four to one margin,

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Speaker 3: three to one margin, sorry, a Republican primary voter is

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Speaker 3: more likely to support a candidate that votes to regulate

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Speaker 3: hemp and hemp products than recriminalize it.

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Speaker 1: So three to one, three to one. So if you're running,

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Speaker 1: you should be running on him.

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Speaker 3: Well, or at least you don't even have to support

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Speaker 3: the marketplace for the products. But we can support is

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Speaker 3: clear regulations, not just for the consumer and the farmer,

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Speaker 3: but also for law enforcement. I mean law enforcement in

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Speaker 3: this state is confused on what's legal and what's not legal,

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Speaker 3: and so are consumers and small businesses.

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Speaker 2: How much did.

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Speaker 1: Roke to screw this up by basically going after those

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Speaker 1: local merchants?

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Speaker 2: So reset this for us? What this was a year

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Speaker 2: or so ago?

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Speaker 1: Rakeeda basically told the law enforcement, you can go in

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Speaker 1: there just raid these little gas shops and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Did I am I remembering that properly?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think that was back in the start at twenty three.

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Speaker 1: It all runs together now, but he was the attorney

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Speaker 1: general when that went.

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Speaker 2: Down, right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately what happened here is not unique across the

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Speaker 3: count This is the same playbook state by state our

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Speaker 3: market competitors take. And so the irony on this is

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Speaker 3: when you go against the hemp industry, you're actually supporting

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Speaker 3: kind of big marijuana right in other states.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was real.

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Speaker 1: Key to his excuse is we got to get these

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Speaker 1: guys out of here, and basically what they were doing was,

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Speaker 1: in a weird way, emboldening big marijuana.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Does it make me a bad person that I just

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Speaker 1: want people to do what they want to do? And

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Speaker 1: then it's like, if it doesn't harm me, just just

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Speaker 1: leave me out of it. Like I think that's where

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Speaker 1: most people are. And in the case of the hemp farmer,

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Speaker 1: it's like, who are they harming? The answer is they're

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Speaker 1: harming no one, that's the answer, right, So what can

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Speaker 1: people do if they're sympathetic to our Indiana hemp growers.

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Speaker 2: How can they help?

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Speaker 3: I think, well, first, we're not going to have a

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Speaker 3: market unless we can change the course at the federal level.

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Speaker 3: So reach out to your congressman, your senators and ask

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Speaker 3: them to support a two year extension on the hemp band.

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Speaker 3: That way, it gives the market time to work with

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Speaker 3: Congress to set up a market structure and more importantly,

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Speaker 3: make sure our farmers have certain where the crop's going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, And in my case, you'll want me to be

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Speaker 1: for getting rid of the him because they'll do the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite whatever I say, So I'll tell them I'm

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Speaker 1: for it, probing me Justin Swanson, Bose McKinnie, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Rob. And that is gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: us today. Thank you as always to you the listener.

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Speaker 1: Without you, there is no US stick around. Tony Katz coming,

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Speaker 1: I'm next. Kennel Casey Show ninety three, WIBC